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comes up a bit, and my level goes down a bit, that is when the message will fit him. Otherwise if I kept talking from above, even then it would be senseless; therefore, in order to make the message fit, you have to establish a level.
Nothing can be done unless you are able to understand. Everyone is in agreement about that! Once it fits, everything moves forward!
Atmagnan from The Gnani
Questioner: How does one attain Atmagnan (Self
realization)?
Dadashri: Atmagnan is attained from the one who Knows the Atma (Atmagnani). You have to meet him directly (pratyaksh) in order for you to attain Self-realization (Atmagnan).
Questioner: Yes, but how can we recognize a real Gnani?
Dadashri: If you provoked him, his ego (ahamkar) would not be stirred, or his 'my-ness' (mamata) would not arise, then he would be a true Gnani.
Or else, you ask the Gnani Purush, 'Have you attained liberation (moksha) yet?' You should ask him that. That is how you will know! When you go to buy vegetables, if you do not know whether they are two or three days old, or if they are fresh; would you not say to the grocer, 'Tell me, if this is fresh or stale.'? In the same way, you should say to the Gnani Purush, 'If you have attained liberation (moksha), then we will sit with you, or else we will leave and find another shop! Rather than waste our whole life sitting in one shop, it would be better to change the shop!' Is there any harm in asking?
However, the easier way would be for you to attend the Gnani Purush's satsang (gathering of Self-realized beings). Or else, you could insult him just once, and you would know
