Book Title: Aptavani Shreni 08
Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Dada Bhagwan Aradhana Trust

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________________ 302 Aptavani-8 Ultimately, Liberation Only Attained Through Becoming Atmaroop Questioner: It is also said that even if you think about the Atma for just a minute, you can become free from the worldly life (sansar). Dadashri: If one becomes the form of the Self (Atmaroop), it is possible to become free from the worldly life (sansar). However, if one thinks about things related to the Atma, there can be no Atma there. Thinking is a way to go to the Atma. Questioner: But when the state of becoming the form of the Self (Atmaroop) arises, can the illusion (bhrama) of the worldly life (sansar) really break? Dadashri: The illusion will go away gradually. But since one has the old karmic account (hisaab), one will indeed be overcome with illusion without fail. It will only work if a new state of blocking the influx of karmic matter (samvar) occurs. So if one becomes the Atma for just a minute, it would last forever. Questioner: Never mind a minute, it does not even last forty-eight seconds. Dadashri: It will not do, if it does not last! Questioner: After forty-eight seconds, it disappears. Dadashri: But if it flees, then it cannot be the Atma. The Atma is something that does not go away. The Atma maintains the same form, whenever you see it; it is always the same form. Therefore, the Atma should appear as separate and all the rest of this should appear as separate. Questioner: I understand that, and I also experience it, however the net of illusory attachment (mayavi jaad) is so

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