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Aptavani-8
When two things come together, neither of them, relinquish their own properties (gunas); however, this gives rise to an extra property and trait (vishesh gunadharma). Now this is an extra intent (vishesh bhaav). And it is that extra property (vishesh gunadharma), that is the worldly life (sansar). Now if they had the non-Self complex (pudgal) in the place of the Liberated Souls (Siddha kshetra), then even there, the extra intent (vishesh bhaav) would occur. But there is no pudgal over there!
Questioner: The Atma becomes bathed in the realm of the Liberated Souls (Siddha gati), but are there not subatomic particles of the non-Self complex (pudgal parmanus) on the outside?
Dadashri: But they are outside the location of the Liberated Souls (Siddha kshetra), meaning that they are only in the lower part. They are in a state which does not affect the Liberated Souls (Siddhas). The abode of the Liberated Souls (Siddha kshetra) is situated in the middle of the worlds or planes of existence (lok) and space beyond the worlds; the limitless space (alok).
Questioner: Can the surrounding conditions or circumstances of the abode of the Liberated Souls (Siddha kshetra), affect other worlds or planes of existence (lokas)?
Dadashri: Not at all. What has effect got to do with anything? There is no relation at all. And there is no effect of any kind on the Siddhas.
Questioner: They may not be affected, but do they affect the outside or not?
Dadashri: No. Nothing here is affected by them. Nevertheless, it is our goal; that it is where we want to go!
