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to karma. Is that not a wheel? Causes and effects, effects and causes, causes and effects, effects and causes. And in it, they all teach you doership, and make you a doer: 'Relinquish that; Do good.' On one hand, they want to get rid of their karma, while on the other hand, they want to do this.
Questioner: Contradictory.
Dadashri: Yes, and therefore, this train will never reach Kashi (holy place of salvation for Hindus). For countless lifetimes, their trains have not reached there. Hey! Who knows whereabouts it may be idling, but no one's train ever reaches Kashi. I am giving you a passport for Kashi! The passport alone will take you to Kashi. The wheels of the train will not take you, but this passport will. That is because your doership will go away. Will there be anything else left in the world after that? Only The Gnani Can Free You from Wrong Beliefs
Questioner: I believe that it is the living being (jiva) that makes us do all this.
Dadashri: But who is the doer? If it is the living being (jiva) that makes you do this, then who is the doer? In fact, it is not even the living being that is making you do it.
Questioner: No, it is the living being that makes you
do it.
Dadashri: It appears to you that the jiva is the one that makes you do it.
Questioner: That is why I feel that you have to take control of the jiva first, before you can move forward.
Dadashri: Oh, the living being does not make you do anything, the poor thing! The jiva does not even have the capability to go to the toilet. It is when one becomes constipated, that one will realize it is not in his power (shakti). Only when the doctor gives him something for it, he will be able to go to the toilet.
