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quality. Nevertheless, even the naad brahma is not the Atma. It is a kind of a musical sound; a tool to bring about concentration (ekagrata). The Atma goes far beyond that.
Questioner: Does the stage of hearing the sound of brahma (naad brahma) have any connection with spiritual development?
Dadashri: Yes, of course it does! You need focused concentration (ekagrata) for spiritual progress, and focused concentration comes out of that. A very good concentration arises in naad brahma. Spirituality begins only when ekagrata happens, otherwise spirituality will not begin, will it? But the Atma is way far away from that.
Questioner: Shabda brahma is there. Everyone talks in different ways about this word, but the inner explosion (exact understanding) of the word should happen.
Dadashri: The impact has occurred. A person already comprehends the word (shabda). If it is true, if the One who can grant this experience, then the word has truly made an impact. Any words that do not give you the experience are all wrong. And when even words are no longer there, that is the ultimate state: absolutely independent (niralumb)! There are no words there. However, first one attains in the form of a ‘word? and thereafter one becomes niralumb.
Praise to Such a Vision! Questioner: When one attains the state of God (Brahma), then everyone appears as one to him. A woman is not seen as a woman, a man is not seen as a man; he sees everyone as God.
Dadashri: Everything he sees only appears pure (shuddha). I will tell you what 'we' see. What is ‘our' awareness (jagruti) like? Complete awareness! What kind of awareness (jagruti) do these people have? They do everything in a state of unconsciousness: 'I am this lady's husband, I am his father
