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Questioner: And if the veil of ignorance (avaran) is lifted, then does it become the Absolute Soul (Parmatma)?
Dadashri: But the veil (avaran) will not lift on its own! First one's vision (drashti) changes. What is the vision like right now? Your vision is on this side; therefore, you only see what is on this side. Is your vision (drashti) not just, 'I am Chandubhai’? Or do you have some other vision (drashti)?
Questioner: I am Atma too!
Dadashri: No, but right now, you accept letters under the name of Chandubhai, do you not? If someone were to swear at you, right now, would it affect you?
Questioner: Yes, it would.
Dadashri: If you were the Atma, then it would not affect you. Therefore, you are Chandubhai. Now there is nothing wrong in saying 'I am Chandubhai’, even I agree that, “I am A. M. Patel.' However, I do not have the belief, that “I am A. M. Patel.' You though, have the belief, 'I am Chandubhai.'
A man was telling me, ‘Only the Vedanta has said that jiva and Brahma are one only. No one else knows that.' I told him, 'Everyone knows that jiva and Brahma are one for sure.' Do the elderly not say, 'I am going to die. I will die, doctor. Save me?' When they think that they are dying, they are jiva. Those who fear death, are all jiva. And when they no longer have fear of dying, it means that the same living being (jiva) has become God (Brahma)! One Is Shiva, but Because of Illusion, One Is
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Questioner: Why did God (Brahma) have to become a jiva (the self)?
Dadashri: You are truly the Atma (Shiva; Self)! But you
