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it to the test. If you do not know how to test it, you should not just say, 'this is how it is.' Even the foreign scientists do not say, 'this is the way it is.' They will say, 'this is how we see it.'
Brahma Is Satya, the World Is Also Satya, but...
This whole concept is fundamentally wrong; the whole thing is illusion (bhranti)! Even then it is not entirely wrong either. What if you are sleeping with your mouth open and someone puts a little chili pepper in it? Will it feel like an illusion (mithya) then? They say, 'Brahma satya, jagat mithya' meaning the Atma is real (Brahma satya) and the world is an illusion (jagat mithya), would it still appear as an illusion, then? This world (jagat) is relative correct. And the Atma (Brahma) is really (real) correct. That is the only difference. Now if you had a toothache, try saying, 'illusion, illusion (mithya, mithya)'. Have you ever had a toothache? Would you say that it is mithya at the time? Do they not say that? Therefore, the Atma is true (Brahma satya), and the world is also true (jagat satya). You have to get treatment for your tooth. If you do not, then it will become a problem.
Questioner: So is this world true (satya) or is it an illusion (mithya)?
Dadashri: Do you think that it is true (satya) or do you think that it is an illusion (mithya)? How does it seem to you? What does your experience tell you?
Questioner: An illusion.
Dadashri: Do you feel that it is an illusion? Now when someone swears at you, does it not affect you? And when someone slaps you, does it not affect you?
Questioner: It does affect me.
Dadashri: So how can you call the world an illusion
