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So the pudgal (non-Self complex) alone, is not an easy thing to understand; it is something extremely profound. And without the Gnani Purush, no one will be able to understand it. It has such a profound significance, and this pudgal's karamat (special qualities; skills) are extraordinary, that it is something altogether different. The world itself has become perplexed. Just look at how one pudgal has managed to confuse the entire world! Even though one does not like to quarrel, one still has to.
If one knows the non-Self complex (pudgal) completely, then one knows chetan (Atma; Self), or if one knows the Self (chetan) completely, then one knows the non-Self complex. Just as if you know what wheat is, then you would recognize the bits of grit in it, and if you know the bits of grit, then you will recognize the wheat.
Questioner: So you can go by any of the two ways?
Dadashri: Yes. You can reach by any path. It will work even if you have a preference towards a certain path. That is why I tell all these people, because so many of them come and say, “Sir, I'm just in ignorance (agnanta).' You silly man, how can you even be in ignorance (agnan)? Even if you were completely in ignorance, you would recognize knowledge (gnan). You do not even have complete ignorance here. This is neither here nor there. What does that mean? That one half of the log is charcoal, and the other half is wood. What do people call that?
Questioner: Half-burnt (ardhadagdha).
Dadashri: Yes. So you tell the timber merchant, “Take this away, sir'. And he would say, 'No, what would we do with that?' And when you ask the coal seller, he would say, 'Why would we want a piece of wood?' So no one would take it. No one even wants to purchase it. The wood man does not want to take it and neither does the coal man.
