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tell you to just carry on enjoying your food and drink for the time being! If you cannot see it right now, there is no need to worry about it.
Questioner: So that would mean, the number of souls do not increase or decrease, is that right?
Dadashri: It does not increase or decrease; it is what it is. There is never an increase, or even a decrease. In this world, not just the Atma's, but even the non-Self's (anatma's) single subatomic particle (parmanu) does not increase or decrease. Even amidst all these wars and catastrophes, and so many people dying; not a single subatomic particle decreases and not a single subatomic particle (parmanu) increases. The numbers of souls does not change. The world remains as it is, and nothing can change that.
Questioner: So how do we identify the energy that runs all this?
Dadashri: What runs all this? The energy is like, say five people are harassing you, so which one out of the five would you name, is harassing you?
Questioner: I would say, all five of them.
Dadashri: Yes, the same happens here; you cannot give the name of just one, because they all do it collectively. It is all scientific circumstantial evidence (vyavasthit shakti). So if they all get together and do it, whose name would you give? Could you name just one? Besides, all of this is mandatory (farajiyat). This is a path of the worldly life (sansar), and the Atma is passing through the path of the worldly life, and this is its effect. There is nothing else, except for this effect.
So the souls do not increase, nor do they decrease. Even the non-Self complex (pudgal) does not increase or decrease. Neither do these inanimate subatomic particles (jada parmanu), decrease or increase. No matter how many you burn or cut