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Aptavani-8
Dadashri: This is how it is: first, according to Darwin's theory, by the process of evolution, the living entity (jiva) develops more and more, until it reaches human life, and once it becomes a human being, because of the ego (“egoism”), it becomes a doer (karta). And when it becomes the doer of karma, then according to the karmas it has to go and endure them. If it creates a debit (paap; demerit karma), it has to go to the animal realm, or even to Hell (nark gati). And if it creates credit (punya; merit karma), it has to go to celestial realm (deva gati) or live a royal, and noble life as a human being. So it all depends on the credit and debit after it has entered the human realm.
So are there not people here who create credit-debit? These days, they do more debit, do they not? They have no idea where they are heading, and even then, do they not go on creating debit? So from two legs, they receive four legs and a tail! They again have to return here to the human realm; but they do not have to go any lower. If they attain the human form once, they have to endure a period of one or two hundred years, before returning to the human realm again. Then they do not leave this human place. They retain their human form, all the way until final liberation (moksha). If there is a debit, they end up spending one or two hundred years in the animal realm, and a hundred thousand years in the infernal realm. And if there is a credit, they spend a hundred thousand years in the celestial realm. But when the embodied soul's (jiva's) suffering ends over there, it is back here again. And when it is ready for final liberation (moksha), it will then go to final liberation, but until then it will have to keep wandering around.
Questioner: When it enters the human life-form, its mind is also developed, so does it mean that when it returns to the animal life-form, that being loses the developed mind again?
Dadashri: No. But the mind becomes covered by a veil