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the main Shuddhatma (pure Soul), the rest is a moving (sachar) part; it is mechanical. And the pure Soul is the still (achad) part. The nature of the pure Soul is Knowing (Gnayak). But this is moving, meaning that it is prone to be mechanical and carry out activity. So they are two separate and different things. They work differently. However, it is possible to experience the separateness, except that one does not have that awareness, and it is to bring about that awareness, that 'we' give you this Gnan (Atmagnan: the Knowledge of the Atma; the Self). Mishra Chetan Then Becomes Mechanical
Questioner: Somewhere, you have used the word mishra chetan, so what is the difference between that mishra chetan and this mechanical chetan?
Dadashri: It is all one thing. But you can call it mishra chetan ('l' with wrong belief) in the beginning; at that time, it is not mechanical. But when it starts to discharge, that is when it becomes mechanical. When it becomes firmly established, it becomes a discharge form, and that is when it becomes mechanical. It is not mechanical at first.
As soon as you start having negative thoughts from here, that mishra chetan begins to form. It then becomes firmly established, and when in the next life it yields results, it will be considered mechanical. At the present time, you cannot call it mechanical. After a period of time, mishra chetan is considered mechanical. It is not called mechanical at first. It is called mechanical when it begins to discharge; it is a discharging chetan.
Egoism, but Still in the Form of a Tool!
Questioner: The part that you call nischetan chetan (life without Life; Energized self), whose manifestation we see everywhere in the world, is the nischetan chetan that believes it will be able to understand the chetan, grasp it, and bring it within the reach of the intellect. To what extent is this claim true?
