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(moksha) from here, that many souls come from the unnamed state (avyavahar rashi) and enter worldly interaction (vyavahar). There is no increase or decrease in worldly interaction. The worldly interaction remains the same and as it is. So there is no need to worry that certain particular types of fruit may become extinct. When some types of fruit disappear, another type will come along, but that the worldly interaction (vyavahar) will remain all the way!
Questioner: They say that the Atma comes from the lowest life-form (nigod). That first all the atmas are in a state of dormancy awaiting development (nigod), so what is nigod?
Dadashri: Nigod means that in one body there are innumerable living entities (jivas). Like in a single potato, there are so many of them, are there not? In the same way, in nigod there is an excessive number of living entities. Those living entities have not yet been given a name. The potato has been given a name.
Questioner: So does the beginning commence from the time the living entity (jiva) has been given a name?
Dadashri: No, the beginning starts even before that. That is called an unnamed state (avyavahar rashi), meaning these living entities have not yet entered into the interactive worldly state (vyavahar).
Questioner: Where is the location of the souls of nigod?
Dadashri: This is the entire location! It is everywhere in space. The entire space in this universe is filled with nigod (infinitesimal, imperceptible dormant living entities, awaking and entering the path of evolution)!
Questioner: Is there not a beginning for living entities in the unnamed state (avyavahar rashi), as well?
Dadashri: No. There is no origin (utpatti) over there.
