Aptavani Shreni 06

Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Dada Bhagwan Aradhana Trust
Catalog link: https://jainqq.org/explore/030017/1

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AptavANI zreNI-6

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dAdA bhagavAna kathita AptavANI zreNI-6 mUla gujarAtI saMkalana : DaoN. nIrUbahana amIna hindI anuvAda : mahAtmAgaNa

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samarpaNa anAdikAla se Atmasukha kI khoja meM khoe hue, atRpti kI jalana meM, isa kalikAla meM bhI digmUr3ha banakara taptahRdaya se bhaTakate hue muktigAmI jIvoM ko parama rAha para pahu~cAne ke lie, dina-rAta jhUjhate hue, kAruNyamUrti zrI dAdA bhagavAna' ke vizvakalyANaka yajJa meM paramaRNIya bhAva se samarpita / 3

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trimaMtra JIO vartamAnatIrthaMkara zrIsImaMgharasvAmI namo arihaMtANaM namo siddhANaM namo AyariyANaM namo uvajjhAyANaM namo loe savvasAhUNaM eso paMca namukkAro, savva pAvappaNAsaNo maMgalANaM ca savvesiM, paDhamaM havai maMgalam 1 OM namo bhagavate vAsudevAya 2 OM namaH zivAya 3 jaya saccidAnaMda dAdA bhagavAnanA esIma jaya jayakAra ho 4

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'dAdA bhagavAna' kauna? jUna 1958 kI eka saMdhyA kA karIba chaha baje kA samaya, bhIr3a se bharA sUrata zahara kA relve stteshn| pleTaphArma naM. 3 kI beMca para baiThe zrI aMbAlAla mUlajIbhAI paTela rUpI dehamaMdira meM kudaratI rUpa se, akrama rUpa meM, kaI janmoM se vyakta hone ke lie Atura 'dAdA bhagavAna' pUrNa rUpa se pragaTa hue / aura kudarata ne sarjita kiyA adhyAtma kA adbhuta aashcry| eka ghaNTe meM unako vizva darzana huaa| 'maiM kauna ? bhagavAna kauna ? jagata kauna calAtA hai ? karma kyA ? mukti kyA ?' ityAdi jagata ke sAre AdhyAtmika praznoM ke saMpUrNa rahasya prakaTa hue| isa taraha kudarata ne vizva ke sanmukha eka advitIya pUrNa darzana prastuta kiyA aura usake mAdhyama bane zrI aMbAlAla mUlajIbhAI paTela, carotara kSetra ke bhAdaraNa gA~va ke pATIdAra, kaoNnTraikTa kA vyavasAya karane vAle, phira bhI pUrNatayA vItarAga puruSa! unheM prApti huI, usI prakAra kevala do hI ghaMToM meM anya mumukSu janoM ko bhI ve AtmajJAna kI prApti karavAte the, unake adbhuta siddha hue jJAnaprayoga se / use akrama mArga khaa| akrama, arthAta binA krama ke, aura krama arthAta sIr3hI dara sIr3hI, kramAnusAra Upara cddh'naa| akrama arthAta liphTa mArga / zaoNrTa kaTa! ApazrI svayaM pratyeka ko 'dAdA bhagavAna kauna ?' kA rahasya batAte hue kahate the ki "yaha dikhAI denevAle dAdA bhagavAna nahIM haiM, ve to 'e.ema.paTela' haiN| hama jJAnI puruSa haiM, aura bhItara prakaTa hue haiM, ve 'dAdA bhagavAna' haiN| dAdA |bhagavAna to caudaha loka ke nAtha haiN| ve Apa meM bhI haiN| sabhI meM haiN| ApameM avyakta rUpa meM rahe hue haiM aura 'yahA~' saMpUrNa rUpa se vyakta hue haiN| dAdA bhagavAna ko maiM bhI namaskAra karatA huuN|" 'vyApAra meM dharma honA cAhie, dharma meM vyApAra nahIM', isa siddhAMta se unhoMne pUrA jIvana bitaayaa| parama pUjya dAdAzrI gA~va-gA~va, deza-videza paribhramaNa karake mumukSu janoM ko satsaMga aura AtmajJAna kI prApti karavAte the| ApazrI ne apane jIvanakAla meM hI pUjya DaoN. nIrUbahana amIna (nIrUmA~) ko AtmajJAna prApta karavAne kI jJAnasiddhi pradAna kI thii| dAdAzrI ke dehavilaya ke bAda nIrUmA~ vaise hI mumukSujanoM ko satsaMga aura AtmajJAna kI prApti, nimitta bhAva se karavA rahI thiiN| pUjya dIpakabhAI desAI ko dAdAzrI ne satsaMga karane kI siddhi pradAna kI thii| nIrUmA~ kI upasthiti meM hI unake AzIrvAda se pUjya dIpakabhAI deza-videzo meM kaI jagahoM para jAkara mumukSuoM ko AtmajJAna karavAte the, jo nIrUmA~ ke dehavilaya ke pazcAt Aja bhI jArI hai| isa AtmajJAnaprApti ke bAda hajAroM mumukSu saMsAra meM rahate hue, jimmedAriyA~ nibhAte hue bhI mukta rahakara AtmaramaNatA kA anubhava karate haiN|

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AptavANiyoM ke lie parama pUjya dAdAzrI kI bhAvanA 'ye AptavANiyA~ eka se ATha chapa gaI haiN| dUsarI caudaha | taka taiyAra honevAlI haiM, caudaha bhaag| ye AptavANiyA~ hindI meM chapa jAe~ to sAre hindustAna meM phaila jaaeNgii|' - dAdAzrI parama pUjya dAdA bhagavAna (dAdAzrI) ke zrImukha se varSoM pahale nikalI yaha bhAvanA aba phalita ho rahI hai| AptavANI-6 kA hindI anuvAda Apake hAthoM meM hai| bhaviSya meM aura bhI AptavANiyoM tathA graMthoM kA hindI anuvAda upalabdha hogA, isI bhAvanA ke sAtha jaya sccidaanNd| pAThakoM se... * 'AptavANI' meM mudrita pAThyasAmagrI mUlata: gujarAtI 'AptavANI' zreNI-6 kA hindI rupAMtara hai| * isa 'AptavANI' meM 'AtmA' zabda ko saMskRta aura gujarAtI bhASA ___kI taraha pulliMga meM prayoga kiyA gayA hai| * jahA~-jahA~ 'caMdUbhAI' nAma kA prayoga kiyA gayA hai, vahA~-vahA~ ___pAThaka svayaM kA nAma samajhakara paThana kreN| * 'AptavANI' meM agara koI bAta Apa samajha na pAe~ to pratyakSa satsaMga meM padhArakara samAdhAna prApta kreN|

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nivedana AtmavijJAnI zrI aMbAlAla mUlajIbhAI paTela, jinheM loga 'dAdA bhagavAna' ke nAma se bhI jAnate haiM, unake zrImukha se adhyAtma tathA vyavahAra jJAna saMbaMdhI jo vANI nikalI, usako rikaoNrDa karake, saMkalana tathA saMpAdana karake pustakoM ke rUpa meM prakAzita kiyA jAtA haiN| jJAnIpuruSa saMpUjya dAdA bhagavAna ke zrImukha se adhyAtma tathA vyavahArajJAna saMbaMdhI vibhinna viSayoM para nikalI sarasvatI kA adbhuta saMkalana isa AptavANI meM huA hai, jo naye pAThakoM ke lie varadAnarUpa sAbita hogii| prastuta anuvAda meM yaha vizeSa dhyAna rakhA gayA hai ki vAcaka ko dAdAjI kI hI vANI sunI jA rahI hai, aisA anubhava ho, jisake kAraNa zAyada kucha jagahoM para anuvAda kI vAkya racanA hindI vyAkaraNa ke anusAra truTipUrNa laga sakatI hai, paraMtu yahA~ para Azaya ko samajhakara par3hA jAe to adhika lAbhakArI hogaa| jJAnI kI vANI ko hindI bhASA meM yathArtha rUpa se anuvAdita karane kA prayatna kiyA gayA hai| prastuta pustaka meM kaI jagahoM para koSThaka meM darzAye gae zabda yA vAkya parama pUjya dAdAzrI dvArA bole gae vAkyoM ko adhika spaSTatApUrvaka samajhAne ke lie likhe gae haiN| jaba ki kucha jagahoM para aMgrejI zabdoM ke hindI artha ke rUpa meM rakhe gae haiN| dAdAzrI ke zrImukha se nikale kucha gujarAtI zabda jyoM ke tyoM iTAliksa meM rakhe gae haiM, kyoMki una zabdoM ke lie hindI meM aisA koI zabda nahIM hai, jo usakA pUrNa artha de ske| hAlAMki una zabdoM ke samAnArthI zabda artha ke rUpa meM koSThaka meM aura pustaka ke aMta meM bhI diye gae haiN| anuvAda saMbaMdhI kamiyoM ke lie Apase kSamAprArthI haiN|

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saMpAdakIya AptavANI zreNI-6, vaha eka anokhI pratibhA kI dhanI hai| eka tarapha vyavahAra meM pala-pala ke problamsa aura dUsarI tarapha sva-maMthana se jhUjhatA huA akelA, khud| ina donoM kI rassAkazI meM dina-rAta utpanna honevAle saMgharSa kA solyuzana khuda ko kahA~ se milegA? kauna degA vaha? vaha saMgharSa hI aMdara kuredatA rahatA hai, aura gAr3I yArDa meM hI ghUmatI rahatI hai! jo koI bhI apane jIvana ke saMgharSoM kA hisAba lekara dAdAzrI ke pAsa AtA hai, use dAdAzrI aisI kar3I dikhA dete haiM ki jisase vaha vyakti saMgharSa meM se saMdhi prApta kara letA hai! jJAna, vaha to zabda se, satsaMga se yA sevA se, jaisA hai vaisA prApta kiyA jA sake, aisA nahIM hai| vaha to jJAnI ke aMtaraAzaya ko samajhane kI dRSTi ko vikasita karane se sAdhA jA sakatA hai, jo hara kisI kI anokhI abhivyakta anubhUti hai| ina vItarAga puruSa ko, yathArthataH pahacAnanA hai| unheM kisa taraha pahacAnA jA sakegA? Aja taka aisI koI dRSTi, aisA koI mApadaMDa hI nahIM milA thA ki jisase unheM nApA jA ske| vaha dRSTi to pUrvajanma kI kamAI ke rUpa meM, AtmA ke anaMta meM se ekAdha AvaraNa ko TheTha taka haTAkara, aMtarasUjha kI nirmala kiraNoM dvArA prApta kI jA sakatI hai ki jisase jJAnI kI pAradarzakatA prApta ho sake! kyA vaha nirmala dRSTi apane pAsa hai? dRSTi nirmala kisa taraha se hogI? Aja taka janmojanma kI bhAvanAe~ kI huI hoM ki, 'vItarAga dazA kI prApti karavAnevAle jJAnIpuruSa ko prApta kara hI lenA hai| usake alAvA anya kisI cIz2a kI kAmanA aba nahIM hai,' tabhI jJAnI ke aMgulInirdeza se jJAnabIja kA caMdramA usakI dRSTi meM khila uThatA hai! jahA~ para puNya nahIM yA pApa nahIM, jahA~ pavitratA nahIM aura na hI apavitratA hai, jahA~ koI dvaMdva hI nahIM, jahA~ AtmA saMpUrNa zuddha rUpa se prakAzamAna huA hai, aise jJAnI ko koI vizeSaNa denA khuda apane Apa ke

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lie hI 'gunahagAra hai' aisA lagatA hai! jinhoMne nirvizeSa pada ko prApta kiyA hai, unheM vizeSaNa se navAz2anA arthAt sUrya ke prakAza ko momabattI se alaMkRta karane jaisA hai aura phira bhI mana meM aham ko poSaNa dete haiM ki maiMne jJAnI kA kitanA acchA varNana kiyA! ise kyA kahanA? kyA karanA? jJAnI kI pratyeka bAta maulika hotI hai| unakI vANI meM kahIM bhI zAstra kI chApa nahIM hai, anya upadezakoM kI chAyA mAtra bhI nahIM hai aura na hI hai kisI avatArI puruSa kI bhASA! unake udAharaNa-similIz2a bhI maulika haiN| are, unakI sahaja sphUrti-maz2Aka meM bhI sacoTa mArmikatA aura maulikatA dekhane ko milatI hai| yahA~ para to pratyeka vyakti ko, khuda kI hI bhASA meM khuda apanI hI ulajhaneM nikAla rahA hai, aisA spaSTa anubhava hotA hai! anubhavajJAna to jJAnI ke hRdaya meM samAyA huA hai| vaha jJAna prApta karane ke lie to jaba tRSAtura jJAnI ke hRdayakUpa meM khuda kA samarpaNatA rUpI ghar3A DUbo degA, tabhI vaha paramatRpti ko prApta karegA! jJAnI kI jJAnavANI, unake anubhava meM AnevAle kathana, aura khuda kI bhUloM ke lie sAmane se hRdayagrAhI hotI huI cAbiyA~ ki jo kisI ko mila pAe~ aisI nahIM haiN| unakI zizusahaja nikhAlisatA aura nirdoSatA svayaM Age Akara, unakA jJAnI ke rUpa meM paricaya detI hai! jJAnI ke eka-eka zabda se aMtara kA AMgana jhUma uThatA hai! jo koI bhI jJAnI ke pAsa khuda kI aMtaravyathA lekara gayA, jJAnI usakI aMtaravyathA jaisI hai vaisI, usI kSaNa par3hakara, use aisI sahajatA se zAMta kara dete haiM ki praznakartA ko palabhara meM hI ho jAtA hai ki ohoho! basa itanA hI dRSTibheda thA merA? aise bAhara dekhane ke badale dRSTi ko 180 DigrI ghumA diyA hotA to kabhI kA hala A gayA hotA! paraMtu 180 DigrI to kyA, eka DigrI bhI khuda apane Apase kaise ghUma sakatA hai? vaha to sarvadarzI jJAnI kA hI kAma hai| AtmavijJAna jahA~ saMpUrNa rUpa se prakaTa huA hai, jahA~ hamArI anaMtakAla kI 'Atmakhoja' ko virAma mila sakatA hai, vahA~ para usa mauke

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ko cUkakara phira se anaMta bhaTakana bhogeM, vaha to kahIM pusAtA hogA? AtmavijJAna hI nahIM, paraMtu jahA~ para sAtha-sAtha prakRti kA sAinsa bhI prakaTa huA hai, ki jaisA kahIM bhI nahIM huA hai, vaha yahA~ para anubhava meM AtA hai| to vahA~ para usakA pUrA-pUrA lAbha uThAkara, puruSa aura prakRti kA ekz2ekTa bhedAMkana karake, prakRti ke jAla meM se kyoM nahIM chUTa jAe~? isa prAkRta zikaMje se kaba taka dabate raheMge? prakRti se pAra jAne kA vijJAna naz2adIka hI hai, to phira khuda kI prakRti kA varNana jJAnI ke sAmane kyoM nahIM rakheM? jise chUTanA hI hai, use prakRti kI vikRti kA rakSaNa kyoM karanA cAhie? jJAnI pUrI taraha se kaba pahacAne jA sakate haiM? jaba jJAnI kA 'jJAna' jaisA hai vaisA, pUrNa rUpa se samajha meM A jAegA taba! taba to zAyada pahacAnanevAlA khuda hI usa rUpa ho cukA hogA! aise jJAna ke dhartA jJAnI ko jagat samajhe, pAe aura ahobhAva meM AkaMTha DUba jAe, taba saMsAra kA svarUpa samajha meM AegA aura usameM asaMgatatA anubhava meM aaegii| vItarAgoM kI vANI kI vizAlatA ko kAgaz2a kI sImA meM sImita karane meM udbhava huIM kSatiyA~, ve saMkalana kI hI haiM, jisake lie kssmaapraarthnaa| - DaoN. nIrUbahana amIna ke jaya saccidAnaMda 10

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upodghAta kudarata kyA kahatI hai ki tujhe maiM jo-jo detI hU~, vaha terI hI buddhi ke Azaya ke anusAra hai / phira usameM tU hAya-taubA kisalie karatA hai? jo milA use sukha se bhoga na ! buddhi ke Azaya meM 'cAhe kaisI bhI patnI hogI to bhI calegI, paraMtu patnI ke binA nahIM calegA', aisA ho to use cAhe kaisI bhI patnI hI milegI / phira Aja parAI strI ko dekhakara khuda ko adhUrA lagatA hai, paraMtu saMtoSa to khuda kI gharavAlI se hI hotA hai usameM tU cAhe jaisI dhamAcaukar3I karegA, phira bhI terA kucha bhI nahIM calegA / isalie samajha jA na ! samabhAva se nikAla kara DAla na ! kalaha karane se to naI pratiSThA hotI rahegI aura usase saMsAra kabhI bhI virAma nahIM paaegaa| isa saMsAra kI bhaTakana se hAra, thaka gayA, aMta meM jaba eka hI cIz2a kA nizcaya ho jAe ki aba kucha chuTakArA ho jAe to acchA, taba use jJAnIpuruSa avazya mileMge hI, jinakI kRpA se khuda ke svarUpa kA bhAna hotA hai, khuda kA Atmasukha cakhane ko milatA hai / phira to usakI dRSTi hI badala jAtI hai| phira vaha dRSTi nijaghara chor3akara bAhara nahIM bhaTakatI / pariNAma svarUpa naI pratiSThA khar3I nahIM hotI / kisI ko jhir3aka diyA aura phira yadi mana meM aise bhAva hoM ki aise kie bagaira to sIdhA nahIM hogA to 'jhir3akanA hai' aise koDavarDa se vANI kA cArjiMga bhI vaisA hI ho jAtA hai / usake bajAya mana meM aisA bhAva ho ki jhir3akanA galata hai, aisA nahIM honA cAhie, to 'jhir3akanA hai' kA koDavarDa choTA ho jAtA hai aura vaisA hI cArja hotA hai / aura 'merI vANI kaba sudharegI?' satata vaise bhAva hote raheM to usakA koDavarDa badala jAtA hai| aura 'merI vANI se isa jagat ke kisI bhI jIva ko kiMcitmAtra duHkha nahIM ho', aisI bhAvanA se jo koDavarDa utpanna hote haiM, unameM tIrthaMkaroM kI dezanA kI vANI kA cArjiMga hotA hai ! isa kAla meM vANI ke ghAva se hI loga dina-rAta pIr3ita rahate haiN| vahA~ para lakar3I ke ghAva nahIM hote, sAmanevAlA vAkbANa calAe taba, 'vANI para hai aura parAdhIna hai', jJAnI kA diyA huA vaha jJAna hAz2ira hote hI, vahA~ 11

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para phira kyA ghAva lageMge? sAmanevAle ko duHkha ho jAe, khuda vaisI vANI bola le to vahA~ para pratikramaNa hI khuda kA aura pariNAma svarUpa sAmanevAle kA, sarva prakAra se solyuzana lA detA hai| isa jagat meM hara eka bAta ko paoNz2iTiva lenA hai| negeTiva kI tarapha mur3e ki khuda ulTA calegA aura sAmanevAle ko bhI ulTA claaegaa| vyavahAra, vaha paheliyoM kA saMgrahasthAna hai| eka pUrI hotI hai aura dUsarI pahelI mu~ha phAr3akara khar3I hI hotI hai| khuda svayaM ko pahacAna le, vahA~ para jagat kA virAma hotA hai| yaha jagat dUsaroM ke jhamele meM par3ane ke lie nahIM hai| khuda kI 'sephasAiDa' kara lene ke lie yaha jagat hai| jaba taka khuda ko aisI bilIfa par3I huI hai ki 'mujhase sAmanevAle ko duHkha hotA hai|' taba taka sAmanevAle ko una spaMdanoM ke pariNAma svarUpa duHkha hogA hii| aura aise jo dikhatA hai, vaha khuda ke hI sensiTivanesa ke guNa ke kAraNa hai| vaha eka prakAra kA ahaMkAra hI hai| vaha ahaMkAra rahe taba taka sAmanevAle ko du:kha ke pariNAma anubhava hoMge hii| vaha ahaMkAra jaba vilaya hogA, taba kisI ko bhI hamase duHkha pariNAma utpanna hoMge hI nhiiN| hama cokhe (svaccha, acchA, zuddha, sApha) ho gae to jagat cokhA hI hai| jJAnI jisa mArga dvArA asara se mukta hue vahI, unakA dekhA huA, jAnA huA aura anubhava kiyA huA hai, yaha mArga hameM jagat se chUTane kA rAstA batA detA hai| A cukI vedanA se mukta hone ke lie dUsare raMjita karanevAle paryAyoM kA sahArA lekara jagat duHkhamukta hone ke lie prayatna karatA hai aura nayA jokhima mola letA hai| jJAnI isa taraha AtmavIrya ko bhunA nahIM dete, ve to 'samabhAva se nikAla karate haiN| 'jJAnIpuruSa' ko koI cAhe jitanI gAliyA~ deM phira bhI jJAnI unheM kahate haiM, 'koI harja nahIM hai, tU yahA~ AtA rhnaa| eka dina terA hala A jaaegaa|' yaha to kaisI g2az2aba kI karuNA aura samatA! 12

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isa jagat meM eka kSaNabhara ke lie bhI anyAya nahIM huA hai| jagat kI korToM meM anyAya hotA hai ! phA~sI para car3hAe, vaha bhI nyAya hai aura nirdoSa chor3a de, vaha bhI nyAya hai / isalie kahIM bhI zaMkA karane jaisA yaha jagat nahIM hai| isa jagat meM aisA koI janmA hI nahIM ki jo ApakA nAma de sake, aura nAma denevAlA hogA, vahA~ para lAkhoM upAya karane se bhI kucha hogA nhiiN| isalie dUsarI saba cIz2oM ko eka ora rakhakara AtmA kI ora jaao| kauna-se jJAna ke AdhAra para kisI para zaMkA kara sakate haiM? yaha A~khoM se dekhA huA bhI kyA galata siddha nahIM hotaa| zaMkA kA kabhI bhI samAdhAna nahIM ho sakatA ! saccI bAta kA samAdhAna hotA hai! jahA~ para zaMkA nahIM rakhatA, vahA~ para zaMkA hotI hai / aura jahA~ vizvAsa rakhatA hai, vahIM para hI zaMkA hotI hai| jahA~ zaMkA hai, vahA~ kucha bhI nahIM hotaa| kamare meM sA~pa ghusA, use dekhA aura vaha jJAna huaa| jaba taka usake nikala jAne kA jJAna nahIM hogA, taba taka zaMkA jAegI nhiiN| nahIM to phira jJAnIpuruSa ke vijJAna ke avalaMbana se vaha niHzaMka bnegaa| jo kucha bhI yAda AtA hai, usakA matalaba yaha ki use Apase zikAyata hai| isalie vahA~ to pratikramaNa kara-karake cokhA (kharA, acchA, zuddha, sApha) karanA par3egA / Apane auroM ko duHkha diyA, ve yahA~ para duHkha meM tar3apeM aura Apa mokSa meM jAe~, aisA hogA kyA? jo svayaM duHkhI hai vahI dUsaroM ko duHkha detA hai / du:khI manuSya mokSa meM jAegA? isalie uTho, jAgo, aura nizcaya karo ki, 'Aja se isa jagat meM kisI bhI jIva ko kiMcitmAtra bhI duHkha nahIM denA hai|' phira mokSa Apake sAmane AtA huA dikhegaa| sAmanevAlA duHkha de, vaha hameM nahIM dekhanA hai, use pUrI chUTa hai / usakI svataMtratA Apa kaise chIna sakate haiM? eka tarapha vizvakorTa meM se nirdoSa chuTakArA cAhie aura dUsarI tarapha 'isane mujhe aisA kyoM kiyA? kyoM kahA?' aise dAve karate rahanA hai, to kaise 13

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chUTA jA sakegA? aura bhUlacUka se yadi dAvA dAyara ho jAe to vaha vApasa le lenA, pratikramaNa karake hI to na ! patnI ke sAtha kA vyavahAra, usake bhItara paramAtmA dekhakara pUrA karanA hai, na ki sAdhu bana jAnA hai / vyavahAra, vyavahAra meM baratatA hai, usameM zuddha svarUpa dikhe, vahI zuddha upayoga hai| Apase honevAle asaMkhya doSa, kyA jJAnI kI dRSTi meM nahIM Ate ? Ate to haiM hI, paraMtu unakA upayoga zuddhAtmA kI tarapha hotA hai| isalie jJAnI ko rAga-dveSa ke pariNAma utpanna hI nahIM hote / apane khuda ke pariNAma badalate haiM, isIlie sAmanevAle ke pariNAma bigar3ate haiN| jJAnI ke pariNAma kisI bhI saMyoga meM nahIM bdlte| sAmanevAle ko sudhAranA ho to sAmanevAlA cAhe jitanA duHkha de, phira bhI usake lie eka bhI ulTA vicAra nahIM Ae, to vaha sudharegA hI / yahI eka, sudharane kA aura pariNAma svarUpa sAmanevAlA sudhare, aisA rAstA hai! I sAmanevAle ko 'yaha terI bhUla hai', aisA mu~ha para kaha deM, taba vaha eksepTa nahIM kregaa| balki bhUla ko Dha~kegA / use kaheM, 'tU aisA karanA / ' taba vaha kucha alaga hI kregaa| usake badale use yadi aisA kahA ho ki 'aisA karane se tujhe kyA phAyadA hogA?' to vaha khuda hI vaisA karanA chor3a degaa| arthI meM kauna sAtha detA hai? bahate hue pAnI meM kauna se bulabule ko pakar3akara rakhA jA sakatA hai ? kauna kisakA sAtha detA hai? khuda ko bhAna nahIM ki jinake lie saMgharSaNa hotA hai, vaha vastu khuda kI hai yA parAI? yaha saba maiM kara rahA hU~ yA koI mujhase karavA rahA hai? deha kI qImata para bhI saMgharSa to honA hI nahIM cAhie ! bhItara bhAva bigar3eM, abhAva ho yA thor3I sI A~kha bhI U~cI ho jAe, to vahI saMgharSa kI zurUAta hai| khuda se dUsarA TakarAe paraMtu khuda kisI se bhI nahIM TakarAe, to vaise saMgharSa hone ke saMyogoM meM gharSaNa honA ruka jAtA hai aura balki kaoNmanasensa prakaTa ho jAtA hai, nahIM to ajAgRti se usI gharSaNa meM anaMta AtmazaktiyA~ 14

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AvRta ho jAtI haiN| saMsAra meM bhI sephTI cAhie aura mokSa kA mArga bhI pUrA karanA hai, phira gharSaNa ko skopa kyoM deM? jisa jJAna ke kAraNa jJAnI jagatjIta bane haiM, vaha jJAna kabhI sunA hogA to kAma aaegaa| aMta meM jagatjIta hI bananA hai na! jagat meM Apa sabhI ko pasaMda Ae~ge tabhI kAma hogaa| jagat ko yadi Apa pasaMda nahIM Ae, to vaha kisakI bhUla? apane sAtha sAmanevAle ko matabheda ho jAe to vaha apanI hI bhUla hai| jJAnI to vahA~ para buddhikalA aura jJAnakalA se matabheda hone se pahale hI TAla dete haiN| 'merA svarUpa zuddhAtmA hai' aisA bhAna hone ke bAda anukUla-pratikUla' ke dvaMdva nahIM rhte| jaba taka vinAzI svarUpa meM vAsa thA taba taka 'anukUlapratikUla' rahatA thA, jo nirA saMsAra hI hai| 'mIThA' jaba taka 'mIThA' lagatA hai, tabhI taka 'kar3avA' 'kar3avA' lagatA hai| 'mIThe' kA vedana nahIM kareM, to 'kaDave' meM vedana nahIM rhtaa| 'mIThe' meM jAnapanA rahe to 'kaDave' meM jAnapanA AsAnI se rahegA, yaha to 'mIThA' bhogane kI purAnI AdateM par3I huI hai, isalie 'kar3avA' kaleje ko khokhalA kara detA hai| anukUla paristhitiyoM meM utpanna honevAle kaSAya ThaMDakavAle hote haiM, mIThe hote haiN| ve rAga kaSAya-lobha aura kapaTavAle kaSAya haiM, unakI gA~TheM TUTatI nhiiN| ve kaSAya rasa gAravatA meM DUbo dete haiM aura anaMta janmoM taka bhaTakA dete haiN| jo dAna detA hai, use loga vAha-vAha kA bhojana khilAe bagaira chor3eMge hI nhiiN| vAha-vAha kI bhUkhavAlA to logoM ke pheMke hue vAha-vAha ke Tukar3e dhUla meM se bIna-bInakara khA jAtA hai| jaba ki jJAnI to, unheM battIsa prakAra kA bhojana paroseM to bhI use 'svIkAra' nahIM karate, phira roga paiThane kA Dara hI kahA~ rahA? koI bhI kAma kareM, to usameM kAma kI qImata nahIM hai| paraMtu usameM yadi rAga-dveSa hoM to usase agalA janma khar3A (sarjita) ho jAtA hai| aura rAga-dveSa nahIM hoM to agale janma kI z2immedArI nahIM rhtii| 15

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jaba dUsaroM kA eka bhI doSa nahIM dikhegA aura khuda kA eka-eka doSa dikhegA, taba chUTA jA skegaa| 'khuda ke doSoM ke kAraNa maiM ba~dhA huA hU~' jaba aisI dRSTi ho jAegI, taba sAmanevAle ke doSa dikhane baMda ho jaaeNge| isalie mAtra dRSTi hI badala lenI hai| harakoI apane-apane karmoM ke adhIna bhaTaka rahA hai, usameM usakA kyA doSa? vyavahAra aisA nahIM kahatA ki sAmanevAle ke doSa dekheM! vyavahAra meM to 'jJAnIpuruSa' bhI rahate hI haiM na! phira bhI ve jagat ko nirdoSa hI nihArate haiM na! cora corI karatA hai, vaha usake karma ke udaya se karatA hai| usameM use cora kahane kA, hameM kyA adhikAra hai? cora meM paramAtmA dekheM to cora ganahagAra nahIM dikhegaa| bhagavAna mahAvIra ne pUre jagat ko nirdoSa dekhA! vaha kyA isI dRSTi ke AdhAra para hI to nahIM? __ bhayaMkara apamAna ke udaya meM aMta:skaraNa tapakara lAla ho jAe, taba usa tapa ko aMta taka tanmayAkAra hue binA samatApUrvaka 'dekhatA' rahe to vaha tapa mokSa meM le jAegA! tapa to vaha kahalAtA hai ki jisakI kisI ko gaMdha bhI nahIM aae| apane tapa ko dUsare jAna jAe~, dUsare loga AzvAsana deM aura hama use svIkAra leM to, usa tapa meM se 'kamIzana' dUsare khA jaaeNge| bAhya saMyogoM kA asara aMta:skaraNa meM sarvaprathama buddhi ko hotA hai| buddhi meM se phira vaha mana ko pahu~catA hai| buddhi yadi bIca meM svIkAra karanevAlI nahIM rahe to phira mana bhI nahIM pkdd'egaa| paraMtu buddhi svIkAratI hai, isalie mana pakar3atA hai aura phira mana khalabalI macA detA hai| buddhi kI daqhala baMda kisa taraha ho? buddhi ke bakher3e sunanA baMda kara deM, apamAna kare, taba buddhi bNd| aura buddhi ko mAna deM, use eksepTa kareM, usakI salAha mAneM to buddhi calatI rahegI, phula phaoNrma meM! jisase apane mana meM bavaMDara uThe ho, usa bAta ko baMda kara denaa| mana meM bavaMDara uThe to phira aMdara apanA sukha AvRta ho jAtA hai| phira asukha lagatA hai, phira duHkha hotA hai, jalana hotI hai aura ghabarAhaTa hotI ___16

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hai aura aMta meM ciMtA hotI hai / paraMtu vaha aMkura ukhAr3a deM to vRkSa banane se ruka jAegA ! khuda ke hitAhita kA bhAna nahIM rahA, isalie mana kA jaisA - taisA upayoga huA, aura mana AuTa oNpha kaMTrola ho gayA ! isa prakAra mana kI caMcalatA bar3hI, usameM kisakA doSa? jaba taka ajJAna hai taba taka mana para ahaMkAra kA niyaMtraNa hai, isa vajaha se mana para kaMTrola nahIM hai / AtmAjJAna hone se 'khuda kA' niyaMtraNa AtA hai aura puruSArtha prakaTa hotA hai aura mana vaza meM ho jAtA hai| 'dekhanA aura jAnanA', donoM pratyeka pala meM sAtha hoM to, vahA~ paramAnaMda ke alAvA aura kyA ho sakatA hai? svayaM sabakucha jAnatA hI hai ki mana meM aisA huA, vaisA huA, vANI aisI bolI gaI, vartana aisA ho gayA, paraMtu paddhatipUrvaka nahIM dekhate ki kise huA aura hama khuda kauna? aura usase paramAnaMda kA AsvAda ruka jAtA hai| khuda ke bola se 'kisakA kisakA, kisa prakAra pramANa dubhatA hai' use dekhanA, vahI kahalAtA hai, vANI para upayoga ! apanI vANI sAmanevAle ko coTa pahu~cAtI hai, kyoM? vANI jo zabda ke rUpa meM hai, vaha coTa nahIM pahu~cAtI, paraMtu usake pIche jo ahaMkAra hai usakI A~ca lagatI hai / 'maiM saccA hU~' vahI ahaMkAra kA rakSaNa / ahaMkAra kA rakSaNa nahIM karanA cAhie, ahaMkAra khuda hI rakSaNa kara le aisA hai ! eka bhI zabda kA upayoga maz2Aka ur3Ane ke lie nahIM karanA caahie| eka bhI zabda kA upayoga galata svArtha ke lie yA lUTane ke lie nahIM karanA caahie| yadi zabda kA durupayoga nahIM kiyA ho, mAna kI caTanI khAne ke lie zabdaprayoga nahIM hue hoM, taba vacanabala utpanna hotA hai| 'isane merA bigAr3A' aisA thor3A sA bhI bhAva ho, to usake sAtha pUrA hI duHkha denevAlA vANI kA vyavahAra utpanna ho jAtA hai| jisakI vANI sudharI, usakA saMsAra sudhara gayA / isa duniyA meM kisI ke pAsa ApakA kucha bhI bigAr3ane kI zakti hI nahIM hai / 17

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dhamakAne se sAmanevAlA kabhI bhI vaza meM nahIM ho sktaa| vaha to khulA ahaMkAra hai| jagat niahaMkArI ke sAmane jhukatA hai! apanI bAta hara kisI ko phiTa ho jAe, vaha samajhadArI kahalAtI hai| TakarAva huA, vahA~ para nAsamajhI kI kAI phaila gaI hai, aisA smjhnaa| nAsamajhI paidA hone kA rUTakaoNz2a ahaMkAra hai aura ahaMkAra bhUta kI taraha rAta-dina parezAna karatA rahatA hai, bAhya koI nimitta nahIM ho phira bhI! isake bajAya 'maiM kucha bhI nahIM jAnatA' vaha bhAva AyA to pUrA ho gyaa| acchA karavAtA hai vaha bhI ahaMkAra, galata karavAtA hai vaha bhI ahNkaar| acchA karavAnevAlA ahaMkAra, vaha kaba pAgalapana karake galata karavAegA, usakI kyA gAranTI? buddhi ke abhAvavAle se 'aisA karU~ yA nahIM karU~' kI dvidhA meM DisIz2ana nahIM liyA jA sakatA, aise saMyogoM meM kyA karanA cAhie? 'karane' kI tarapha kA aMdara se z2ora adhika hai yA nahIM karane' kI tarapha kA z2ora adhika hai, vaha dekha lenaa| yadi nahIM karane' kI tarapha kA jora adhika hai to usa palar3e meM baiTha jaanaa| phira 'karane' kA hogA to vyavasthita vApasa use modd'egaa| jaldabAz2I karanA, vaha siMgala gunAha hai aura jaldabAz2I nahIM karanA, vaha Dabala gunAha kahalAtA hai| isalie jaldI se dhIre clo| rAga kare, vaha siMgala gunAha hai aura nirAgI bana jAe, vaha Dabala gunAha hai| saMsAra vyavahAra meM maiM AtmA hU~, mujhe kyA lenA-denA?' aisA karake beTe kI fIsa nahIM de to vaha bhayaMkara gunAha hai| vahA~ ni:spRha nahIM honA hai| nATakIya rUpa se rahakara nikAla karanA hai| sAmanevAle ko khuza karanA hai, usake rAgI nahIM bananA hai| pulisavAle ko khuza karate hue kyA usake rAgI banate haiM? ghara meM, vyavasAya meM, kahIM bhI kama se kama TakarAva khar3A kare, usa prakAra se vyavahAra kare, vaha asala buddhizAlI! 18

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Apase koI bhI ghabarA jAe to usameM ApakA kyA bar3appana? Apake dhamakAne se sAmanevAle meM parivartana ho to nukasAna uThAkara bhI ApakA dhamakAnA kAma kA ! ApameM jaba kapaTa nahIM rahegA, taba Apake sAtha koI bhI sAmane se kapaTa karane nahIM AegA / jagat khuda apanA hI pratibiMba hai / apanA hI phoTo hai yaha sArA ! hamAre khuda ke niSkapaTa bhAva kA prabhAva hI sAmanevAle ko kapaTa rahita kara sakatA hai ! 'sAmanevAle kA samAdhAna karanA, vaha apanI hI z2immedArI hai' aisA jaba bhItara phiTa ho jAegA, taba koI bhI bAhya prayatna kie binA svayaM kI sUjha se Aja nahIM to kala, paraMtu sAmanevAle ko samAdhAna hogA hI khuda badalanA hai, na ki sAmanevAlA badale usakI rAha dekhate-dekhate 'kyU' meM baiThe rahanA hai| khuda Aja zuddha huA, ahaMkAra rahita huA, paraMtu abhI taka ke pichale ahaMkAra ke pratispaMdana loga kisa taraha ekadama se bhUla jAe~ge? ve pratispaMdana to raheMge hii| jaba taka pratispaMdana svayaM baMda nahIM ho jAe~, taba taka iMtaz2Ara karane ke alAvA cArA nahIM hai / darpaNa to, jo koI usake sAmane ceharA rakhe, usakA pratibiMba dikhAtA hai| aisA, darpaNa jaisA 'klIyara' ho jAnA hai| aTakaNa ke kAraNa darpaNa jaisA klIyarensa nahIM ho pAtA / isalie logoM ko ApakI tarapha aTraikzana nahIM hotaa| aTraikzana hone ke bAda to usakA eka-eka zabda brahmavAkya bana jaaegaa| are, isa aTakaNa ke kAraNa to ApanI saccI bAta bhI logoM ko acchI nahIM lgtii| usake kAraNa mukta hAsya bhI nahIM nikalatA aura vANI meM bhI khiMcAva rahatA hai ! anaMta janmoM kI bhaTakana kisalie huI ? aTakaNa se! Atmasukha cakhA nahIM, isalie viSayasukha kI aTakaNa par3a gaI ! 'jJAnIpuruSa' kI kRpA aura khuda kA z2abaradasta parAkramabhAva, usase aTakaNa TUTatI hai| aTakaNa 19

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TUTe to anaMta samAdhisukha prakaTa hote haiM aura aTakaNa ko nahIM ukhAr3eMge to, vaha to jJAna ko bhI aura jJAnI se bhI Apako ukhAr3akara alaga kara degii| Apa para jisakI chAyA par3e usakA roga ApameM Ae bagaira rahegA hI nhiiN| sAmanevAle ke cAhe jitane suMdara guNa dikheM, paraMtu aMta meM to ve prAkRtaguNa hI haiM na? prAkRta guNa vikRta hue bagaira nahIM raheMge? suMdara hAphUz2a Ama ho, paraMtu vaha sar3akara durgaMdha degA na? jahA~-jahA~ viSayasaMbaMdhI AkarSaNa khar3A ho, usakA turaMta hI pratikramaNa honA cAhie, aura usake zuddhAtmA ke pAsa mA~ga karanA ki mujhe isa abrahmacarya ke viSaya meM se mukta karo / strI-puruSa ke viSaya se baira khar3A hotA hai| vaha baira hI kitane janma bigAr3a detA hai| pratikramaNa se sarvaprathama to khuda kA atikramaNa rukatA hai aura ulTe bhAva TUTate haiN| sAmanevAle ko to vaha bAda meM pahu~catA hai aura nahIM pahu~ce, taba bhI vaha nahIM dekhanA hai / yaha to apane khuda ke lie hI hai sArA ! bAgha ke pratikramaNa hoM, to vaha bAgha bhI apane kahe anusAra karegA / bAgha meM aura manuSya meM kucha bhI pharka nahIM / apane spaMdanoM ke pharka ke kAraNa bAgha para usakA asara hotA hai / bAgha hiMsaka hai, aisA jaba taka Apake dhyAna meM hai, bilIfa meM hai, taba taka vaha hiMsaka hI rahegA aura bAgha 'zuddhAtmA' hai, aisA dhyAna rahe to vaha 'zuddhAtmA' hI hai ! khuda kI tarapha se cher3akhAnI baMda huI, khuda ke spaMdana ruke, to sAmane koI bhI spaMdana karanevAlA nahIM milegA aura pUrvAbhyAsa se spaMdana phiMka jAe~ to pratikramaNa dvArA dho DAlanA, vahI puruSArtha hai ! karmarUpI paccar3a ko phrekcara kisa taraha kiyA jAe? 'phAiloM kA samabhAva se nikAla' karake / hameM phAiloM ko dekhate hI mana meM pakkA karanA cAhie ki 'mujhe samabhAva se nikAla karanA hI hai|' to usa anusAra sabakucha prabaMdhita ho hI jAegA aura zAyada kabhI cIkaNI phAila ho, vahA~ aisA karane ke bAda bhI nikAla nahIM ho pAe, to phira Apa gunahagAra nahIM haiM, vyavasthita gunahagAra hai| 20

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cIkaNI phAila cIkaNI kisalie hai? khuda ne hI cIkaNI kI hai islie| cIkaNI phAila kI cipacipAhaTa dekhane se badale khuda kI prakRti kI cipacipAhaTa dikhegI, taba phAila ko dekhane kI dRSTi hI badala jAegI! khuda kI 'prakRti kA phoTo' puruSa ho jAne ke bAda hI khiMcatA hai| ahaMkArarUpI kemare se kahIM phoTo khiMcate haiM? usake lie to maulika kemarA caahie| jo ulajha jAtA hai, vaha apanA svarUpa nahIM hai| yaha merA hai' aisA mAnA jAtA hai, vahI bhUla karavAtA hai| prakRti ko sirpha dekhanA hI hai| 'acchI-burI' nahIM kahanA hai| prakRti lAkha lepa car3hAne jAe, phira bhI khuda kA paramAtmasvarUpa lepAyamAna nahIM ho sktaa| AtmA kI zuddhatA ko jagat kA koI bhI prayoga azuddhi meM pariNAmita kara hI nahIM sakatA aura vahI apanA khuda kA svarUpa hai! prakRti kA hisAba cukAne ke lie 'hameM kucha bhI nahIM karanA hai| ve hisAba to apane Apa hI pUre hote rheNge| 'hameM' to 'dekhate rahanA' hai ki kitanA hisAba bAkI rahA! prakRti kI sabhI kamiyA~ apane Apa hI pUrI ho jAe~gI, 'khuda' yadi daqhala nahIM kare, to! prakRti khuda kI kamI khuda hI pUrI kara detI hai| usameM 'maiM kara rahA hU~' kahatA hai, isalie Dakho (daqhala, hastakSepa) ho jAtI hai| yaha 'akrama vijJAna' pUrI duniyA ke sAyaklona ko khatma kara de, vaisA hai, paraMtu yadi hama loga usameM sthira raheM to! - DaoN. nIrUbahana amIna 21

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Na anukramaNikA [1] arthI meM sAtha meM kauna? pratiSThA kA putalA 1 'jJAna' se zaMkA kA zamana buddhi kA Azaya 2 upAya meM upayoga kisalie? buddhi kA Azaya aura bhAva 3 nija spaMdana se pAe paribhramaNa buddhi ke Azaya kA AdhAra 7 [6] kudarata aura buddhi kA Azaya 10 vizvakorTa meM se nirdoSa chuTakArA... aMtima prakAra kA buddhi kA Azaya10 duHkha dene ke pratispaMdana pratiSThA kA kartA, parasattA meM! 10 'ahaMkAra' bhI kudaratI racanA 12 yAda-zikAyatoM kA nivAraNa Azaya ke anusAra bhUmikA 13 hArTilI pachatAvA pratiSThA se putalA 14 doSoM kA zuddhikaraNa AtmaciMtanA kisakI? 15 [7] [2] prakRti ke sAtha tanmaya dazA... vANI kA TaipiMga, 'koDavarDa' se 17 'vyavasthita' kI saMpUrNa... ahaMkAra kA rakSaNa 22 [8] buddhi kI daqhala se huI DakhalAmaNa 25 'asaroM' ko svIkAra karanevAlA 57 [3] buddhi aura prajJA kA DimArkezana 58 AmaMtrita karmabaMdhI 27 ahaMkAra ke udaya meM 'eDajasTamenTa' 59 tapa ke tApa se ubhara AI zuddhatA 27 'AtmaprApti' ke lakSaNa / pratikramaNa : kramika ke - akrama ke 29 kAraNa-kArya kI zrRMkhalA pratikramaNa, jJAnI ke 31 akartApada se abaMdha dazA [4] prArabdha banA purAnA, 'vyavasthita'... 64 pratispaMdana se duHkha pariNAma 32 [9] [5] kaSAyoM kI zurUAta / vyavahAra meM ulajhaneM 35 anukUlatA meM kaSAya hote haiM? 'ka' kI karAmAta 35 kaSAyoM kA AdhAra 'jJAnIpuruSa' kI karuNA aura samatA36 'akrama' kI balihArI zaMkA kA samAdhAna hai hI nahIM 37 anubhava-lakSa-pratIti 22

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71 sAmIpyabhAva se mukti zuddha upayoga kA abhyAsa 111 upayoga jAgRti 112 [10] [16] viSayoM meM sukhabuddhi kise? 73 bAta ko sIdhI samajha jAo na!117 saMsAra calAne ke lie AtmA... 75 [17] nirAkula AnaMda 76 karmaphala-lokabhASA meM, jJAnI... 122 ahaMkAra ke pratispaMdana-vyavahAra meM78 pariNAma meM samatA 123 pariNAma parasattA meM 79 bAgha hiMsaka hai yA bilIfa? 124 [11] bhAva aura icchA kI utpatti 125 mAnava svabhAva meM vikAra heya... 81 rikaoNrDa kI gAliyoM se Apako...126 buddhi kA zrRMgAra kareM jJAnI 84 akarma dazA kA vijJAna 127 buddhi kI samApti 86 karma bAdhaka nahIM... 128 DisIz2ana meM vevariMga [18] jaldI se dhIre calo! 'sahaja' prakRti 130 mana kA laMgara 'asahaja' kI pahacAna 131 jahA~ inTaresTa, vahIM ekAgratA sahaja - asahaja - sahaja 132 aprayatna dazA 134 [12] sahaja arthAt aprayatna dazA 134 prAkRta guNoM kA vinAza ho... 93 prakRti kA pRthakkaraNa jJAnI kI virAdhanA kA... prakRti para kaMTrola kauna karatA...137 jJAnI ke rAjIpe kI cAbI prakRti kA satAnA 137 [13] karAroM se mukta 140 gharSaNa se gar3hAI [19] [14] duHkha dekara mokSa meM... 142 pratikUlatA kI prIti 103 farja pUre karo, lekina... 144 chuTakAre kI cAbI kauna sI? 105 [20] jagat nirdoSa - nizcaya se... 106 anAdi kA adhyAsa 145 doSadarzana, upayoga se [21] [15] cIkaNI 'phAiloM' meM samabhAva 151 upayoga sahita vahIM para... 109 vANI meM madhuratA, kaoNz2ez2a kA... 154 W 135 107

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maz2Aka se TUTatA hai vacanabala jJAnI kI Flexibility saMsAra pArasparika saMbaMdha [22] 159 Apako duHkha hai hI kahA~ ? hastAkSara ke binA mRtyu bhI nahIM163 166 ApakA bigAr3anevAlA kauna ? prIkaoNzana, vahI 'caMcalatA' 167 [23] buddhizAlI to kaisA hotA hai ? daqhala nahIM, 'dekhate' raho! [ 24 ] abalA kA kyA puruSArtha ? sulajhA huA vyavahAra, vahI ... kaSAyoM se karma baMdhana 155 156 157 [ 25 ] ArAdhanA karane jaisA... aura... nijavastu ramaNatA [ 26 ] zuddhAtmA aura karmarUpI paccar3a arIsA sAmAyika arIsA meM ThapakA sAmAyika 169 173 'dekhata bhUlI' Tale to... 'vAha - vAha' kA 'bhojana' pratikramaNa kI gahanatA zuddhAtmA aura prakRti pariNAma sAmanevAle ko samAdhAna do asamAdhAnoM meM eDajasTamenTa yA... apratikramaNa doSa, prakRti kA yA... 193 akrama mArga se ekAvatArI 187 . 189 194 175 176 178 179 182 183 184 196 197 201 202 203 arIsAbhavana meM kevalajJAna ! kusaMga kA raMga... 24 [ 27 ] aTakaNa se laTakaNa aura.... 206 207 209 aTakaNa, anAdi kI ! 210 211 aTakaNa se aTakA anaMta sukha jokhamI, nikAcita karma yA... 213 aTakaNa ko chedanevAlA... 214 aTakaNa kA aMta lAo 216 saba se bar3I aTakaNa, viSaya... 219 kAma nikAla lo 220 baira kA kArakhAnA 221 lokasaMjJA se abhiprAya avagAr3ha 223 kamizana cukAe binA tapa 226 uddIraNA, parAkrama se prApya ! 227 parAkramabhAva 230 [ 28 ] ' dekhanA' aura 'jAnanA' hai... 233 paramAtmayoga kI prApti 235 mUla puruSa kI mahattA 240 sthUla pAra karo, sUkSmatama meM... 241 sAmane Ae haiM mokSasvarUpa 241

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AptavANI zreNI -6 [1] pratiSThA kA putalA 'maiM caMdUbhAI hU~', 'yaha maiMne kiyA', 'vaha maiMne kiyA' aisI pratiSThA kI ki turaMta hI phira se naI mUrti khar3I ho jAtI hai aura vaha mUrti phira phala detI hai| jisa prakAra hama patthara kI mUrti meM pratiSThA kareM aura vaha phala dene laga jAtI hai, usI prakAra hama yaha pratiSThA khar3I karate haiN| jisa rUpa se pratiSThA karate haiM, usI rUpa kA 'pratiSThita AtmA' banatA hai| yaha purAnA 'pratiSThita AtmA' naI pratiSThA khar3I karatA hai| Aja jo 'caMdUbhAI' hai, vaha pUrA hI purAnA 'pratiSThita AtmA' hai, vaha phira vApasa pratiSThA karatA rahatA hai ki 'maiM caMdUbhAI hU~, maiM isakA mAmA hU~, isakA cAcA hU~', aisI saba pratiSThA karatA hai, yAnI vApasa Age calA! aura 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' kahA to pratiSThA baMda ho gii| isalie hama kahate haiM ki zuddhAtmapada prApta ho jAne ke bAda karma baMdhane baMda ho jAte haiN| praznakartA : aisA spaSTa vivaraNa kisIne nahIM kiyA hai? dAdAzrI : vivaraNa hogA, tabhI hala AegA, AtmajJAna honA caahie| AtmajJAna nahIM hai, varnA vaha to ArapAra dikhA sakatA hai| isalie hamane 'pratiSThita AtmA' (zabda) diyA, vaha kabhI bhI kisIne diyA hI nahIM! praznakartA : yAnI vaha pratiSThA ke anusAra sArI kriyAe~ karatA hai, kAma karatA rahatA hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, vaha bhI jaisI pratiSThA kI ho, vaisaa| jaise mUrti meM pratiSThA

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AptavANI-6 karate haiM aura mUrti phala detI rahatI hai, vaise hI ye pratiSThA karatA hai, usake phalasvarUpa bacce par3hate- karate haiM, pahale naMbara se pAsa bhI hote haiN| buddhi kA Azaya praznakartA : isameM khuda kA koI puruSArtha nahIM hai? dAdAzrI : nahIM, vaha to khuda pratiSThA karatA jAtA hai aura mUrti banatI jAtI hai aura phira, usakI buddhi ke Azaya meM ho, usa anusAra usakA 'phiTiMga' hotA jAtA hai| buddhi ke Azaya meM kyA hai? taba kahe ki, mujhe to basa par3hAI meM hI Age bar3hanA hai, yadi aisA buddhi kA Azaya ho to vaisA hI phala degaa| yadi kisI ko aisA ho ki, mujhe bhakti meM Age bar3hanA hai, to vaisA phala aaegaa| yadi buddhi ke Azaya meM aisA ho ki 'mujhe jhoMpar3I meM hI rAsa AegA', to phira karor3a rupaye hoM, phira bhI use jhoMpar3I ke bagaira acchA nahIM lagegA aura kisI ke buddhi ke Azaya meM, 'mujhe baMgale ke binA acchA nahIM lagegA', aisA ho, to usa para yadi pA~ca karor3a rupaye kA udhAra ho, phira bhI baMgale meM hI rahanA acchA lagegA / aura isa bhakta becAre ko kyA hotA hai ki, mujhe to jaisA ho vaisA clegaa| taba use jaisA ho vaisA, lekina sabakucha mila jAtA hai ! praznakartA : yAnI vahA~ bhAva kAma karate haiM? dAdAzrI : nahIM, vaha buddhi kA Azaya hai, bhAva nahIM karanA par3atA / buddhi ke Azaya ke anusAra hI bhItara sabakucha seTalamenTa ho cukA hotA hai| khuda pratiSThA karake putalA taiyAra karatA hai aura phira buddhi ke Azaya ke anusAra seTalamenTa hotA hai| praznakartA: baMgale ke bagaira acchA nahIM lagegA, use buddhi kA Azaya kahA, to isameM phira pratiSThA kauna sI? dAdAzrI : pratiSThA to Apa apane Apa karate ho ki 'maiM caMdUbhAI hU~, yaha maiMne kiyA, isakA sasura hU~, isakA mAmA hU~' aisA karake putalA

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AptavANI-6 taiyAra karate haiN| phira bhAva kyA-kyA hote haiM? taba kahe, 'buddhi ke Azaya ke anusAra sArA citraNa ho jAtA hai| buddhi ke Azaya ke bAda bhItara parivartana hotA rahatA hai|' praznakartA : pratiSThA kauna karatA hai? dAdAzrI : vaha ahaMkAra karatA hai ki, 'yaha maiM hU~, maiM hI caMdUbhAI hU~ aura yaha merA cAcA hai, mAmA hai|' praznakartA : yaha zarAba pItA hai, yaha pUjA karatA hai, vaha kyA hai? dAdAzrI : zarAba pItA hai, vaha to bhItara bhAva kie hoM na ki zarAba ke binA to calegA hI nahIM, isalie zarAba pItA hai aura phira vaha nahIM chaTatI, yAnI pratiSThA nahIM karatA paraMtu aisA hai ki buddhi kA Azaya bolate samaya kaisA hotA hai, vaha aMdara prinTa ho jAtA hai| buddhi ke Azaya ko samajhanA bahata hI z2arUrI hai, hameM yahA~ donoM khatma ho jAte haiN| yahA~ to pratiSThA honI hI baMda ho jAtI hai| praznakartA : buddhi kA Azaya jarA vizeSa rUpa se samajhAie na, dAdA! dAdAzrI : buddhi kA Azaya arthAt 'mujhe basa corI karake hI calAnA hai, kAlA bAz2Ara karake hI calAnA hai|' koI kahegA, 'majhe corI kabhI bhI nahIM karanI hai|' koI kahatA hai, 'mujhe aisA bhoganA hai|' to bhogane ke lie ekAMtavAlI jagaha bhI taiyAra kara detA hai| usameM phira pApa-puNya kAma karatA hai| jaisA sabakucha bhogane kI icchA kI hogI, vaisA sabakucha use mila bhI jAtA hai| mAnane meM nahIM Ae, vaisA sabakucha bhI use mila jAtA hai| kyoMki usake buddhi ke Azaya meM thaa| aura yadi puNya hogA to koI use pakar3a bhI nahIM skegaa| cAhe jitane pehare lagAe hoM, taba bhI! aura puNya pUrA ho jAe taba yoM hI pakar3A jAtA hai| choTA baccA bhI use DhU~Dha nikAlatA hai ki 'aisA ghoTAlA hai idhara!' buddhi kA Azaya aura bhAva praznakartA : to isameM bhogane kA jo nakkI karate haiM, vahA~ kyA buddhi kA Azaya kAma karatA hai?

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AptavANI-6 dAdAzrI : hA~, buddhi ke Azaya ke anusAra kAma karatA hai ! duniyA meM nahIM ho vaisA bhI bhoganA paDatA hai| yadi bhogane kA bhAva kiyA ho to! aura usa samaya vApasa vaisA maMjUra bhI ho jAtA hai, kyoMki buddhi ke Azaya ko phira puNya kA AdhAra hai| isalie 'maiM yaha hU~', 'yaha merA hai' aisI pratiSThA se pUre janma kI 'baoNDI', yaha mUrti utpanna hotI hai aura bhAva karate samaya buddhi kA Azaya kaisA thA, kisa-kisameM thA, vaha saba prinTa ho jAtA hai| haraeka ko buddhi kA Azaya hotA hai| praznakartA : buddhi kA Azaya to hamezA badalatA rahatA hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, buddhi kA Azaya badalatA hai, usa anusAra sabakucha vahA~ para prinTa hotA jAtA hai| praznakartA : bhAva aura buddhi ke Azaya meM kyA pharka hai? dAdAzrI : bhAva, vaha to yahA~ para logoM ko aise kA~ca DAla detA hai| usake bAda usakI A~kheM bahuta acchI hoM, usake bAvajUda bhI jo dikhatA hai vaha bhAva kahalAtA hai aura vaha vaise bhAvoM ke anusAra calatA rahatA hai| isalie phira usa para se yaha sArA saMsAra khar3A ho jAtA hai! praznakartA : kA~ca meM se jo dikhatA hai vaha bhAva hai, to kA~ca, vaha dravyakarma hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, jo kA~ca hai vaha dravyakarma hai| ve jo kA~ca Apako lagAe haiM, vaise hara kisI ke alaga-alaga hote haiN| dravyakarma hara eka kA alaga-alaga hotA hai| loga dravyakarma ko kyA samajhate haiM ki jo dikhA hai, jaisA dikhA, vaha bhAvakarma hai, usa bhAvakarma kA jo phala AyA, use dravyakarma kahate haiN| bhAvakarma se yaha krodhI ho gayA, use ve dravyakarma kahate haiN| dravyakarma kI bAta bahuta samajhane jaisI hai, aura buddhi kA Azaya alaga cIz2a hai| praznakartA : paraMtu buddhi kA Azaya aura bhAva meM kyA pharka hai?

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AptavANI-6 dAdAzrI : bhAvakarma sabhI ko hote haiM, lekina buddhi ke Azaya hara eka ke alaga-alaga hote haiN| vaha kSetra ke adhIna hai| yaha kA~ca, phira isa kA~ca meM se jo dikhatA hai vaha bhAva hai, phira kSetra, aura kAla ke AdhAra para buddhi kA Azaya hotA hai| hAlAMki kA~ca kI itanI adhika khAsa velyu nahIM hai| yaha kA~ca isa taraha utpanna hotA hai ki isa bhava meM jo kucha bhI kiyA, ki usameM logoM ko sukhadAyI hoM aise kAma kie hoM to kA~ca vaise hI nirmala hote haiM, jisase use acchA dikhatA hai| ThokareM bahuta nahIM lagatIM, aura jisane logoM ko du:khadAyI ho par3eM, aise kAma kie hoM, usake kA~ca to itane adhika maile hote haiM, ki use dina meM bhI saccI vastu nahIM dikhatI, aura phira usa para bahuta duHkha par3ate haiN| yAnI kA~ca kA Apa kisa taraha upayoga karate ho usa para AdhArita hai| pUrI jiMdagI eka hI kA~ca ke AdhAra para calAnA hotA hai| mUla kyA hai? taba kaheM ki, jJAna khuda kA hai hI, paraMtu usa jJAna para kA~ca hai| usa kA~ca meM se dekhakara sabakucha calAnA hai| isa baila kI A~khoM para paTTI bAMdha dete haiM, usa jaisA yaha bAMdhate haiN| aba usameM se thor3A khula jAe to utanA-utanA dikhatA hai aura ciMtA, upAdhi (bAhara se AnevAle duHkha) karatA rahatA hai| khuda ke Azaya ke anusAra use sabakucha milatA rahatA hai| vaha khuda ke Azaya ko yadi samajha jAe to bahuta ho gayA, buddhi kA Azaya tujhe samajha meM AyA? praznakartA : vyavahAra kaisA honA cAhie, vaha nizcita karane ke lie jo nizcita hotA hai, vahA~ buddhi kA Azaya hai? dAdAzrI : mujhe kisameM sukha lagegA? aisA DhU~DhatA rahatA hai| ataH phira vaha viSaya meM sukha mAnane laga jAtA hai| phira vApasa aisA bhAva karatA hai ki baMgalA nahIM ho to calegA, apane pAsa to ekAdha jhoMpar3A ho taba bhI clegaa| isalie phira use dUsare janma meM jhoMpaDA milegA! haraeka ko alaga-alaga makAnoM meM acchA lagatA hogA na, rAta ko nIMda AtI hogI na? praznakartA : acchA lagatA hai| dAdAzrI : kisalie mujhe aisA aura use aisA, pUrI rAta aisA nahIM

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AptavANI-6 hotA rahatA? nahIM hotA / usameM saMtoSa kisalie hotA hai? 'hama to apane ghara para jAe~ tabhI nIMda AtI hai' vaha buddhi kA Azaya hai| khuda ke ghara para bhale hI jhoMpar3I ho ! hama usase kahe, 'are, terI khATa to itanI DhIlI ho gaI hai|' phira bhI vaha kahegA, 'nahIM mujhe to usameM hI nIMda AegI / mujhe isa baMgale meM nIMda nahIM aaegii|' ina AdivAsiyoM ko roz2a khIrapUr3I khilAe~ to unheM vaha pasaMda nahIM AegA / do-tIna dinoM meM hI cupacApa kahe binA calA jAegA / use aisA lagegA ki maiM kahA~ yahA~ para pha~sa gyaa| 6 kucha loga paisA nahIM ho, phira bhI qImatI kapar3e pahanate haiM, jabaki kucha loga to khUba paise hoM phira bhI.... vaha buddhi kA Azaya ! phAdara gAliyA~ detA ho, phira bhI use vahI phAdara acche lagate haiM ! madara gAliyA~ detI ho phira bhI vahI madara acchI lagatI hai ! phAdara ko vahI beTA acchA lagatA hai| pUrI jiMdagI beTe se bAta nahIM karatA, lekina marate samaya sArA bacce ko hI de detA hai / are ! pUrI jiMdagI bhatIje se cAkarI karavAI, lekina de diyA beTe ko ? yaha buddhi kA Azaya kahalAtA hai ! dAdA ke bhI beTe aura beTI guz2ara gae / to unake buddhi ke Azaya meM aisA thA ki yaha kyA jhaMjhaTa, yaha kyA parezAnI ! buddhi ke Azaya meM naukarI karanA nahIM thA, yahI ki, 'basa, naukarI nahIM karU~gA / ' to naukarI nahIM karanI pdd'ii| yAnI buddhi ke Azaya ke anusAra sabakucha hotA rahatA hai / praznakartA : yAnI jo vyavahAra, jo nimitta, jo saMyoga milate haiM unake pIche Azaya kAma karatA hai? dAdAzrI : Azaya ke binA kucha bhI milatA hI nahIM / praznakartA : aba jo buddhi kA Azaya hai, vaha pichale janma kI ciMtanA kA pariNAma hai ? dAdAzrI : ciMtanA nahIM, Azaya, buddhi kA Azaya hI hai| pichale janma ke buddhi ke Azaya the, unakA yaha phala AyA / buddhi kA Azaya ho, to use saTTebAz2a mila jAtA hai| bAhara nikale ki use resavAlA mila jAtA

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AptavANI-6 hai| khuda ne ghara se bhale hI kitanA bhI nakkI kiyA ho ki resa meM jAnA hI nahIM hai, phira bhI calA jAtA hai| vaha buddhi kA Azaya hai| hama logoM ne pichale janma meM buddhi kA Azaya kiyA hogA, usakA hameM khuda ko abhI patA calatA hai ki yaha saTTAbAz2Ara mujhe chU hI nahIM sktaa| nAlAyaka vyakti mujhe milegA hI nhiiN| buddhi ke Azaya kA AdhAra yaha saba buddhi ke Azaya ke AdhAra para hai aura buddhi kA Azaya hai, vaha dravya-kSetra-kAla-bhAva ke adhIna hai| usameM khuda kA kartApana nahIM hai, kartApana mAnA jAtA hai, vaha bhrAMti hai aura usa bhrAMti se phira se nayA utpanna hotA hai| vaha chUTatA hI nahIM kabhI bhI! bIja meM se vRkSa aura vRkSa meM se bIja, aise calatA hI rahatA hai! ekabAra phala ko khAkara bIja kA nAza kiyA jAe to phira vaha per3a ugegA nhiiN| bIja, vaha ahaMkAra hai| ahaMkAra kA nAza kara do| jo phala Ae haiM unheM khA le, paraMtu bIja kA nAza kara do| hama isalie hI kahate haiM ki 'phAileM' Ae~ unheM bhogo, usakA samabhAva se nikAla (nipaTArA) kro| Ama ke Upara kA garbha khA jAo aura bIja kA nAza kara do| Ama kA garbha ApakI buddhi kA Azaya hai, usameM calegA hI nhiiN| vaha to khA hI lenA pdd'egaa| paraMtu 'yaha acchA hai yA yaha kharAba hai', aisA mata bolnaa| 'samabhAva se nikAla' krnaa| ___aba kahate haiM ki AtmA ne vibhAva kiyA, kalpanA kii| are, kalpanA kI ho to hamezA vaisI hI Adata honI cAhie use| isalie hama kahate haiM na ki sAinTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDensa mila gae, isalie yaha vibhAva utpanna huaa| 'sAinTiphika' arthAt guhy| guhya kA artha kyA? ki dravya-kSetra-kAla-bhAva vaha saba ikaTThA hone se phira yaha utpanna hotA hai| A~kha para paTTI bA~dhane ke bAda jo bhAva utpanna hote haiM, ve vibhAva haiM aura use bhAvakarma kahate haiN| hama use aisA kahate haiM ki vizeSa pariNAma khar3e hue| do vastuoM ke sAmipyabhAva se vizeSa pariNAma, khuda ke guNadharma khuda

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AptavANI-6 ke pAsa rakhakara, vizeSa pariNAma utpanna hote haiN| jaba taka itanI bar3I kakar3iyA~ nahIM mileM, taba taka aMdara bhAva utpanna hotA hai koI? paraMtu mila jAe~ to vizeSa pariNAma khar3e hote haiM ki bahuta acchI kakar3I hai! paraMtu nahIM dekheM aura nahIM mileM to kucha bhI nahIM! taba koI kahe, 'ina logoM ke lie ekadama ekAMta DhU~Dha nikAlo ki jahA~ inheM kisI vyakti se milane hI nahIM deM, vahA~ para rakheM to?' paraMtu vaisA nahIM calegA! usakI jo sthApanA ho cukI hai, pratiSThA ho cukI hai na, vaha phUTegI aura phira se dUsarI naI pratiSThA khar3I kie binA rahegA nhiiN| isa prakAra kI, nahIM to dUsare prakAra kI, paraMtu usake vizeSa pariNAma chUTeMge nhiiN| khuda kA svarUpabhAna ho jAe, vaha jo AnaMda, jo sukha DhU~Dha rahA hai, vaha sukha mile, usase dRSTiphera ho jAegA, dRSTi zuddha ho jaaegii| phira vizeSa pariNAma khar3A nahIM hogaa| yAnI vAstava meM kyA hai ki 'zuddha jJAna, vaha AtmA hai aura zubhAzubha jJAna, azuddha jJAna, vaha sArA jIva hai|' zubhAzubha meM hai, taba taka jIvAtmA hai, vaha mUr3hAtmA hai| zuddhAtmA taba banatA hai, jaba samakita hotA hai, pahale pratIti baiThatI hai, 'maiM zuddhAtmA huuN'| koI bhI vyakti aise hI zuddhAtmA nahIM bana jAtA, paraMtu pahale pratIti baiThatI hai| phira usa anusAra jJAna hotA hai, aura usake anusAra baratAva hotA hai| pahale mithyAtva pratIti thI, to mithyAtva jJAna khar3A huA aura mithyAtva vartana khar3A huaa| jJAna hotA hai, taba vartana apane Apa hI AtA jAtA hai, kucha karanA nahIM pdd'taa| mithyAtvazraddhA aura mithyAtavajJAna ikaTThe hoM, taba apane Apa vaisA baratAva ho hI jAtA hai - karanA nahIM par3atA, phira bhI vaha kahatA hai ki 'karanA hai' vaha usakA ahaMkAra hai| usane aisA mAna liyA thA ki, mistrI ke kAma meM hI maz2A AegA aura mistrI ke kAma meM hI sukha hai, to vaha mistrI bana jAtA hai| phira pratIti baiThe, taba mistrI ke kAma kA use jJAna utpanna hotA hai, aura jJAna aura zraddhA donoM eka ho jAe~, taba AcaraNa meM turaMta A hI jAtA hai| aise hAtha rakhA aura IMTa cipake, hAtha rakhA aura IMTa cipake! hara eka IMTa ko aise dekhanA nahIM pdd'taa| arthAt khuda ko buddhi ke Azaya ke anusAra sabakucha mila jAtA hai| kisI ko kucha karanA nahIM pdd'taa| buddhi ke Azaya meM corI karanI

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AptavANI-6 ho, aura usake pIche puNya ho, to vaha saba (saMyoga) ikaTThe kara detA hai| cAhe jaise chupe hue karma karatA ho aura lAkha sI.AI.DI. usake pIche par3I ho, phira bhI usakA patA nahIM calatA aura pApa kA udaya ho taba AsAnI se pakar3a meM A jAtA hai| yaha kudarata kI kaisI vyavasthA hai na! hai puNya, aura phira mana meM khuza hotA hai ki 'mujhe kauna pakar3a sakatA hai?' aisA ahaMkAra karatA rahatA hai| aba, jaba phira pApa kA udaya ho, taba saudA baMda ho jAtA hai| __yaha saba puNya calAtA hai| tujhe haz2Ara rupaye tanakhvAha kauna detA hai? tanakhvAha denevAlA terA seTha bhI puNya ke adhIna hai| pApa ghera leM, taba seTha ko bhI karmacArI mArate haiN| praznakartA : seTha ne bhAva kie hoMge, 'ise naukarI para rakhanA hai|' hamane bhAva kie hoMge ki 'vahA~ naukarI karanI hai', isalie yaha milA? dAdAzrI : nahIM, aisA bhAva nahIM hotaa| praznakartA : to vaha lena-dena hogA? dAdAzrI : nahIM, aisA kucha bhI nhiiN| praznakartA : to usake pAsa naukarI ke lie kyoM gayA? dAdAzrI : nahIM, vaha to usakA hisAba hai saaraa| seTha kI aura usakI jAna-pahacAna kucha bhI nhiiN| seTha ke buddhi ke Azaya meM aisA hotA hai ki mujhe aise naukara cAhie aura naukara ke buddhi ke Azaya meM hotA hai ki mujhe aise seTha caahie| vaha buddhi ke Azaya meM chapa cukA hotA hai, usa anusAra mila hI jAtA hai! ye bacce paidA hote haiM, ve bhI buddhi ke Azaya ke anusAra hote haiN| 'merA ikalautA lar3akA hogA to bhI bahuta ho gayA, merA nAma rauzana kregaa|' usakI buddhi ke Azaya ke anusAra nAma rauzana karatA hai| jaina aisA kahate haiM ki, 'merA beTA hai, vaha dIkSA le to bahuta acchA, usakA kalyANa to hogA!' phira jainoM ke mA~-bApa beTe ko dIkSA bhI rAjIkhuzI se lene dete haiM

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10 AptavANI-6 jabaki ye auroM ko dIkSA kI bAta karake dekho? ve manA kreNge| kyoMki unhoMne vaise bhAva hI nahIM kie the| kudarata aura buddhi kA Azaya yaha 'vAipha' milatI hai use, 'yaha merI vAipha bane' aise kucha bhAva nahIM kie the| kucha bhI bhAva nahIM, jAna-pahacAna bhI nahIM, vaha to buddhi ke Azaya ke anusAra mila jAtI hai| dravya-kSetra-kAla-bhAva aise hote haiM ki kanyAoM kI bahuta kamI ho jAe, taba usakI buddhi ke Azaya meM kyA hotA hai ki mujhe to jaisI milegI vaisI se zAdI kara lU~gA, basa milanI caahie| to use vaisI milatI hai| lekina phira vaha zora macAtA hai ki, 'yaha strI aisI hai, vaisI hai!' are, tUne hI nizcita kiyA thA na, aba kisalie zora macA rahA hai? vaha phira dUsare kI suMdara strI dekhe to use khuda ke ghara meM adhUrA lagatA hai! lekina vApasa saMtoSa to khuda ke ghara meM hI milatA hai| phira kahegA ki, 'mere ghara para hI rahU~gA!' kudarata kyA kahanA cAhatI hai ki tere buddhi ke Azaya ke anusAra tujhe milA hai, usameM tU kalaha kisalie kara rahA hai? dUsare kA baMgalA dekhe aura aMdara kalaha karatA hai, lekina phira use acchA to khuda kA hI jhoMpar3A lagatA hai! aMtima prakAra kA buddhi kA Azaya __ buddhi ke Azaya meM aisA ho ki 'jJAnI mileM aura aba kucha chuTakArA ho jAe, aba to thaka gayA isa bhaTakana se', taba use jJAnI mila jAte haiM! aba aisA buddhi kA Azaya to koI karatA hI nahIM hai na? logoM kA yaha moha kahA~ se chUTe? pratiSThA kA kartA, parasattA meM! dravya-kSetra-kAla-bhAva aura bhava parivartita hote hI rahate haiN| jitanA mu~ha se bolate haiM, utanA ahaMkAra hai, aura usase pratiSThA hotI rahatI hai| yaha ahaMkAra jo karatA hai, vaha bhI khuda nahIM karatA, vaha bhI dravya-kSetra

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AptavANI-6 kAla aura bhAva karavAte haiM / jJAnI se jJAna mile to ahaMkAra jAtA hai, aura ahaMkAra gayA to sArI pratiSThA baMda ho gaI ! phira vaha kahA~ jAe? mokSa meM ! praznakartA : ahaMkAra, vaha bhI dravya - kSetra - kAla aura bhAva ke adhIna hai? 11 dAdAzrI : hA~, isalie vaha pratiSThA karatA hai| dikhane meM aisA lagatA hai ki yaha pratiSThA ahaMkAra khuda kara rahA hai, paraMtu saMyoga karavAte haiN| usase pratiSThA khar3I ho jAtI hai / aba pratiSThA meM se phira se saMyoga khar3e hote haiM, ve vApasa pratiSThA karavAte haiM / arthAt khuda isameM kucha bhI karatA hI nahIM! isalie hama use sAinTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDensa kahate haiM sabakucha saMyoga karavAte haiM aura khuda mAnatA hai ki, 'maiMne kiyA / ' aba 'maiMne kiyA' vaisI mAnyatA bhI saMyoga karavAte haiM / taba koI pUche ki ise ahaMkAra kaheMge yA nahIM? taba kaheM, "hA~, ahaMkAra hI na? kyoMki karatA hai koI dUsarA aura mAnatA hai ki 'maiMne kiyaa'|" praznakartA : ahaMkAra bhI saMyogoM ke adhIna hotA hai ? dAdAzrI : hA~, saccI bAta hai / yaha sArA saMyoga karavAte haiN| ahaMkAra bhI saMyoga karavAte haiM, phira bhI vaha mAnatA hai ki, 'maiMne hI kiyA / ' usase naI pratiSThA khar3I hotI hai / hama logoM ko to 'maiMne kiyA' aisA apanI 'bilIfa' meM nahIM hotaa| hama loga aisA samajhate haiM ki 'vyavasthita' karavAtA hai, isalie pratiSThA honI baMda ho gii| jo citrita kiyA huA hai vaha bhava to AegA paraMtu nayA citraNa baMda ho gayA / hama yAtrA meM gae, ve pahale ke citrita kie hue bhAva the sAre / jahA~-jahA~ ke the, vahA~-vahA~ sabhI jagaha jA aae| T praznakartA : buddhi kA Azaya badalatA hai yA nahIM? dAdAzrI : AsapAsa paharA ho, usake AdhAra para buddhi kA Azaya hotA hai| cAroM tarapha pulisavAle ikaTThe ho jAe~, usa ghar3I aMdara bhaya baiTha jAtA hai to buddhi kA Azaya kahegA ki nahIM, aba corI nahIM karanI hai usake anusAra sArA parivartana ho jAtA hai| I

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12 AptavANI-6 dravya-kSetra-kAla-bhAva sabakucha ikaTThA ho jAe, taba usake anusAra buddhi kA Azaya utpanna hotA hai| paraMtu bhItara mUla bhAvanA z2arUra hotI hai| apanI dAnata cora ho, tabhI vaise saba saMyoga milate haiM! 'ahaMkAra' bhI kudaratI racanA praznakartA : 'nesesiTI ija da madara oNpha invenzana'(AvazyakatA AviSkAra kI jananI hai) vaha galata bAta hai? dAdAzrI : yaha zabdaprayoga hI hai, varnA yaha sabakucha kudarata karavAtI praznakartA : to phira isa 'rileTiva' pragati kA AdhAra kyA hai? dAdAzrI : sabakucha hI kudarata karavAtI hai| jaise-jaise kAla badale, vaise hI dravya badalatA hai, dravya badale vaise-vaise bhAva badalate haiM aura khuda igoiz2ama karatA hai, 'maiMne kiyA!' yaha igoiz2ama bhI kudarata karavAtI hai, aura jo isa igoiz2ama meM se chUTa gayA vaha isameM se chUTa gyaa| yaha pragati kudarata karavAtI hai, varnA jitane zabdaprayoga haiM ve sabhI igoiz2ama hai| pahale ke logoM ne prArabdha kahA, isalie hI to yaha dazA huI hai| isalie apane isa sAinsa meM kisI ko prArabdha batAyA hI nhiiN| praznakartA : 'vyavasthita' meM hogA to hogA, aisA nahIM? dAdAzrI : vaha to Apake samAdhAna ke lie kahate haiM, varnA saca meM to aisA kahate haiM ki kAma karate jaao| sArA pariNAma 'vyavasthita' ke hAtha meM hai, isalie socanA mata, ghabarAnA mt| oNrDara ho gayA ki laDAI karo, phira lar3AI karate jAo, phira pariNAma se ghabarAnA mt| praznakartA : to hameM koI yojanA banAnI hI nahIM cAhie? dAdAzrI : yojanA to pahale gar3hI jA cukI hai| phira jaba bhI kAma Ae taba kAma karate jaao| biginiMga zurU ho, usase pahale to yojanA gar3hI jA cukI hotI hai!

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AptavANI-6 praznakartA : vicAra nahIM karane haiM? dAdAzrI : vicAra nahIM karane haiN| vicAra Ae~ unheM dekhate rahanA, aura phira kAma karate raho, vicAra karane kI z2arUrata nahIM hai| vicAra to Ae~ge hii| manuSya meM yadi vicAra baMda karane kI zakti hotI to sAre vicAra baMda kara bhI detaa| Apake kharAba vicAra Apa baMda kara sakate ho? praznakartA : nhiiN| dAdAzrI : taba Apa hI soco.... kyA kara sakate ho? praznakartA : to vicAroM kA mUla kyA hai? dAdAzrI : gA~The haiM mana kii| praznakartA : graMthi kA mUla kyA hai? dAdAzrI : pahale jo vicAra Ae the unameM Apa tanmayAkAra ho gae the, usase graMthi bnii| jina vicAroM meM tanmayAkAra hue unakI graMthi pdd'ii| Azaya ke anusAra bhUmikA praznakartA : Azaya aura vicAra meM kyA pharka hai? kyA Azaya meM se vicAroM kA udbhava hotA hai? dAdAzrI : vicAra aura Azaya alaga haiN| Azaya to sAra hai| jaisA hara eka jIva ke Azaya meM hotA hai, vaisI use bhUmikA milatI hai| praznakartA : graMthiyA~ Azaya ke anusAra banatI haiM? dAdAzrI : graMthiyA~ alaga cIz2a hai| graMthi kA aura Azaya kA koI lenA-denA nahIM hai| mUla meM pahale vicAra haiN| unameM se icchAe~ hotI haiM, aura icchA meM se Azaya utpanna hotA hai, aura Azaya meM se use usakI bhUmikA milatI hai| yaha Apake Azaya ke anusAra deha milA hai| dUsare sabhI eDajasTamenTa milate haiN| abhI Apako zAyada ve ThIka nahIM bhI lageM, lekina hai sArA Apake Azaya ke anusAra hii|

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AptavANI-6 yadi Apake Azaya kA nahIM hotA to Apako rAta ko nIMda hI nahIM AtI / luTere kA puruSa ko lUTane kA Azaya ho to use strI milatI hI nhiiN| Azaya ke anusAra buddhi hotI hai, vicAra hote haiM aura pUrI jiMdagI Azaya ke anusAra guz2aratI hai| aba vahA~ eDajasTamenTa kyoM nahIM ho pAtA ? pahale ke Azaya ke anusAra sabakucha milatA hai| abhI ke jJAna ke anusAra vaha eDajasTa nahIM hotaa| isake bAvajUda Azaya meM ho vahI pasaMda AtA hai Azaya meM cenja nahIM ho sktaa| sirpha naI graMthi nahIM DalatI aura purAnI khatma ho jAtI hai| phira nirgratha ho jAtA hai / aba jJAna milane ke bAda nayA Azaya nahIM baMdhatA aura pichalA vilaya hotA jAtA hai / I praznakartA : nirgratha hone ke lie kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : apane yahA~ karavAte haiM vaisI sAmAyika karanA / sAmAyika se jo bahuta bar3I graMthi hotI hai, jo bahuta parezAna karatI ho, vaha vilaya ho jAtI hai| 14 praznakartA : khuda kI bhUleM sAmAyika meM prayatna karake dekhanI cAhie? sAmAyika meM to prayatna karanA par3atA hai na? dAdAzrI : nahIM prayatna arthAt to mana ko kriyA meM le jaanaa| mana kriyAzIla karanA vaha prayatna, jaba ki 'dekhanA', vaha kriyA meM nahIM aataa| pahale jo bhUleM nahIM dikhatI thIM, ve hI bhUleM aba dikhatI haiM / kriyA meM pharka nahIM hai| jo dikhatA hai, vaha jJAna ke pratApa se ! pratiSThA se putalA praznakartA : 'pratiSThita AtmA' yAnI kyA? dAdAzrI : jaba taka 'maiM khuda kauna hU~' vaha nahIM jAna leM, taba taka jise hama AtmA mAnate haiM ki 'yaha caMdUbhAI maiM hI hU~', vahI 'pratiSThita AtmA' hai| AtmA yAnI kyA? khuda kA 'selpha' / hama eka mUrti meM pratiSThA karate haiM vaise, yaha pratiSThA kI huI hai, isalie hameM yaha phala detI rahatI hai| mUla

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AptavANI-6 daraasala AtmA kA bhAna hogA, taba kAma ho jaaegaa| 'khuda kauna hai?' usakA 'selpha riyalAiz2a' honA caahie| praznakartA : isa 'pratiSThita AtmA' ko zuddhAtmA kA bhAna hI nahIM hai na? dAdAzrI : use bhAna hogA bhI kisa taraha? khuda kA bhAna to jaba 'jJAnIpuruSa' karavAe~ taba hotA hai| praznakartA : nahIM, lekina Apane 'jJAna' diyA, bAda meM 'pratiSThita AtmA' ko bhAna hogA na? dAdAzrI : hA~, tabhI to khuda ko bhAna huA na! vaha bhAna huA tabhI to vaha 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~', aisA bolane lgaa| pahale jo bhAna thA, usameM badalAva mahasUsa huaa| isalie use lagA ki, 'yaha to maiM nahIM hU~, maiM to zuddhAtmA hU~!' AtmaciMtanA kisakI? praznakartA : AtmA ciMtanA kare vaisA bana jAtA hai, to vaha ciMtanA kauna karatA hai? dAdAzrI : 'pratiSThita AtmA' hI ciMtanA karatA hai| mUla AtmA to kucha bhI ciMtanA karatA hI nhiiN| ciMtanA karane kA jo bhAva karatA hai na, vahI 'pratiSThita AtmA' hai| daraasala AtmA' to vaisA hai hI nhiiN| vaha to jaise pyora golDa hI dekha lo| isalie hama kyA kahate haiM ki zuddha kI ciMtanA kareMge, to usa rUpa bana jAe~ge aura dUsarI ciMtanA kareMge to vaisA ho jaaegaa| praznakartA : paraMtu vaha ciMtanA to 'pratiSThita AtmA' kI hI hai na? dAdAzrI : hA~, usakI hii| vaha to kucha bhI nahIM krtaa| 'pratiSThita AtmA' yadi isa taraphavAlA ho jAegA, to 'zuddhAtmA' bana jAegA, aura agara ulTA jAegA to ulTA bana jAegA, aisA hama kahate haiN| aba svarUpajJAna

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AptavANI-6 milA taba se Apako zuddhAtmA kI ciMtanA hotI rahegI / phira bhI yaha jo lagatA hai ki, 'maiM aisA hU~', 'mujhe aisA huA', yaha saba moha hai| yaha satsaMga karate haiM, vaha bhI sArA moha hI hai| paraMtu yaha cAritramoha hai| cAritramoha kise kahate haiM? ki samabhAva se nikAla kara diyA, to vaha khatma hI ho gayA / vaha vApasa hameM sparza nahIM karegA aura vaha sacamuca kA moha to khuda ko cipake bagaira rahegA hI nahIM / yaha darzanamoha calA gayA hai isalie sirpha cAritramoha hI bAkI rahA / use DiscArja moha kahA jAtA hai / 16 jJAna nahIM ho use to aba 'DiscArja moha' meM to 'maiM aisA hU~ aura vaisA hU~' aisI sArI kalpanAe~ rahA karatI haiM / isalie vaisA ho jAtA hai vaaps| aura svarUpajJAna ke bAda 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~, maiM zuddhAtmA hU~', aisA rahA karatA hai, isalie zuddha hotA jAtA hai aura 'caMdUbhAI' ko to jo honA ho vaha hogA, jo usakA prakRti svabhAva hai vaha to nikalegA hI / 'usakA' aura 'ApakA' lenA-denA nahIM hai / sirpha usakA nikAla kara denA hai /

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[2] vANI kA TaipiMga, 'koDavarDa' se praznakartA : vANI ko sudhArane kA rAstA kyA hai? dAdAzrI : vANI ko sudhArane kA rAstA hI yahA~ para hai| yahA~ para sabakucha pUcha-pUchakara samAdhAna kara lenA caahie| _ 'sthUla saMyoga, sUkSma saMyoga aura vANI ke saMyoga para haiM aura parAdhIna haiN|' itanA hI vAkya khuda kI samajha meM rahatA ho, khuda kI jAgRti meM rahatA ho, to sAmanevAlA vyakti cAhe jo bole phira bhI hameM z2arA bhI asara nahIM hogA aura yaha vAkya kalpita nahIM hai| jo ekjekTa hai, vaha kaha rahA huuN| maiM Apako aisA nahIM kahatA ki mere zabda kA mAna rakhakara clo| ekz2ekTa aisA hI hai| hakIkata Apako samajha meM nahIM Ane ke kAraNa Apa mAra khAte ho| praznakartA : sAmanevAlA ulTA bole taba Apake jJAna se samAdhAna rahatA hai, paraMtu mukhya savAla yaha rahatA hai ki hamase kar3avA bola nikale, taba usa samaya hama isa vAkya kA AdhAra leM, to hameM ulTA lAisensa mila jAtA hai? dAdAzrI : usa vAkya kA AdhAra liyA hI nahIM jA sakatA na! aise samaya meM to Apako pratikramaNa kA AdhAra diyA haA hai| sAmanevAle ko duHkha ho vaisA bola liyA ho to pratikramaNa kara lenA caahie| aura sAmanevAlA bhale kucha bhI bole, taba yadi 'vANI para hai aura parAdhIna hai', use svIkAra kiyA to phira Apako sAmanevAle se du:kha rahA hI nahIM na? aba Apa khuda ulTA bolo phira usakA pratikramaNa karo, taba

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AptavANI-6 Apake bola kA Apako duHkha nahIM rhtaa| yAnI isa prakAra sArA hala A jAtA hai| praznakartA : vANI jar3a hai, phira bhI iphekTiva kyoM hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, vANI jar3a hai| phira bhI adhika se adhika iphekTiva vANI hI hai| usake kAraNa to isa jagat kA astitva hai| vANI kA svabhAva hI iphekTiva hai| praznakartA : vANI para kaMTrola kisa taraha lAe~? dAdAzrI : vANI para kaMTrola to... eka to jJAnI ke pAsa se AjJA lekara mauna dhAraNa kare taba hogA, nahIM to khuda mauna dhAraNa karanA, lekina vaha to khuda ke adhIna nahIM hai| udaya se apane Apa mauna nahIM AegA kyoMki udaya to sArA vyavasthita ke adhIna hai| isalie jJAnI kI AjJA lekara mauna dhAraNa kare to hitakArI hai| dUsarA, vANI ko kaMTrola karane ke lie yadi pratikramaNa karegA to hogaa| vANI TeparikaoNrDa hai| usa chape hue ke alAvA adhika yA kama kucha bhI nahIM bolA jA skegaa| yAnI ki kaMTrola ke lie ye do hI rAste haiN| praznakartA : pUrvajanma meM yA dUsare janma meM ve hI saMyoga aura ve hI vyakti mileMge, aura vahI vANI nikalegI, aisA hai? Tepa ho cukA hai, usakA artha kyA? dAdAzrI : apane yahA~ para sAhaba tez2I se bolate haiM aura sTeno likha letA hai| vaha kisa taraha likha letA hogA? vaha kauna sI bhASA hotI hai? praznakartA : 'shortthendd'| dAdAzrI : aura usase Age kucha nayA nikalA hai na? vo koDa leMgveja kahate haiM yA kyA? praznakartA : hA~, koDa leNgvej| dAdAzrI : yaha saba koDa leMgveja aura zorTahenDa saba aMdara TAipa hotA hai| apanA bhAva aMdara huA ki, 'acche-acchoM ko biThA dUM, aisI vANI bolU~, maiM aisA huuN|' to itane koDavarDa se vaha pUrA prakAzamAna ho jAtA

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AptavANI-6 19 hai| use maiM TeparekaoNrDa kahatA huuN| Apane bhItara jo koDavarDa kie haiM, usase yaha Tepa ho cukA hai| kitanI hI kaThora bhASA bolanevAlA bhI saMtapuruSa ke pAsa suMdara vANI bolatA hai| taba hama nahIM samajha jAte ki yaha kaThora vANIvAlA hai yA madhura vANIvAlA hai? praznakartA : vANI nikale taba kaisI aura kisa prakAra kI jAgRti rakhanI cAhie? dAdAzrI : sAmanevAle kA dila baiTha jAe, aisA bar3A patthara mAreM, to usa samaya apanI jAgRti ur3a hI jAegI! choTA patthara mAreM to jAgRti nahIM jaaegii| yAnI patthara choTA ho jAegA, taba vaha jAgRti aaegii| praznakartA : to hama patthara kisa taraha choTA kareM? dAdAzrI : pratikramaNa se! praznakartA : Tepa ho cukI vANI badalI kisa taraha jAe? dAdAzrI : Apa sirpha jJAnI ke pAsa se AjJA lekara maunavrata dhAraNa karo, taba usakA upAya hai| varnA vaha to kudarata ko badalane jaisI vastu hai| isalie 'jJAnIpuruSa' ke pAsa se AjJA lekara kareM, to 'jJAnIpuruSa' jokhimadAra nahIM banate aura jokhimadArI yoM hI bIca rAste meM khatma ho jAtI hai| yAnI yahI eka upAya hai| praznakartA : vANI bolate samaya jo bhAva aura jAgRti haiM unake anusAra TaipiMga hotA hai? dAdAzrI : nahIM, yaha TaipiMga vANI bolate samaya nahIM hotaa| yaha to mUla pahale hI ho cukA hai| usakA phira Aja kyA hogA? jo chapa cukA hai, usake anusAra hI bjegaa| praznakartA : aura phira abhI boleM, usa samaya jAgRti rakheM to? dAdAzrI : abhI Apa kisI ko DA~ToM, phira mana meM aisA ho ki

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AptavANI-6 ise DA~TA 'vaha ThIka hai', taba phira vApasa vaise hisAba kA koDavarDa banA aura ise DA~TA, 'vaha galata huA', aisA bhAva huA to koDavarDa ApakA naI prakAra kA bnaa| yaha DA~TA vaha ThIka kiyA aisA mAnA ki usake jaisA hI vApasa koDavarDa utpanna hotA hai aura usase vaha adhika vaz2anadAra (maz2abUta) banatA hai| use 'yaha bahuta kharAba ho gayA, aise nahIM bolanA cAhie, aisA kyoM hotA hai?' aisA ho to koDa choTA ho jAtA hai| praznakartA : aba yaha ThIka kiyA aisA bhI nahIM ho aura ThIka nahIM kiyA aisA bhI nahIM ho, taba phira koDa utpanna hogA? dAdAzrI : vaha to mauna rahane kA nizciya kare to mauna ho jaaegaa| praznakartA : kaI bAra mu~ha se nahIM bolA jAtA, lekina aMtaravAcA hotI hai na? aMdara bhAva bigar3ate rahate haiM, usakA kyA? dAdAzrI : Apako khuda apane Apako aMdara kaha denA hai ki aisA galata nahIM honA caahie| aisA suMdara honA caahie| praznakartA : phira suMdara kA koDa A jAegA na? dAdAzrI : suMdara kA koDa to AegA hI na! praznakartA : vaha phira vApasa nayA koDa banatA hai, usake lie nayA deha dhAraNa karanA par3egA? isake bajAya to koDa nahIM baneM, aisA hameM caahie| dAdAzrI : yaha to ekAdha janma cale utanA hI hai| bAda meM to Apake koDa aise raheMge hI nhiiN| jisakI Aja kharAba bhASA nahIM hai, una logoM ne koDa badalA nahIM aura jisakI kharAba bhASA hai, unhoMne koDa badale haiN| yAnI ve kacce par3a gae haiM aura ye pakke ho gae haiN| jo kahate haiM, 'dAdA, merI yaha vANI kaba sudharegI?' taba se hama nahIM samajha jAte ki yaha koDa badala rahA hai?! praznakartA : jise mokSa meM jAnA hai use to koI koDa dAqhila hI nahIM karanA hai na? usake lie kyA karanA cAhie?

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AptavANI-6 21 dAdAzrI : mokSa meM pahu~cane taka kucha bhI parezAnI ho, aisA nahIM hai| mokSa meM jAne ke lie jaise koDa cAhie, ve agale janma meM utpanna hoNge| abhI mujhe pUchakara jitanA mAla bharegA, usase agale janma meM phira vaisA hI koDa utpanna hogaa| abhI eka janma hai na? praznakartA : tIrthaMkaroM kI vANI ke koDa kaise hote haiM? dAdAzrI : unhoMne aisA koDa nizcita kiyA hotA hai ki 'merI vANI se kisI bhI jIva ko kiMcitmAtra bhI duHkha nahIM ho| duHkha to ho hI nahIM, paraMtu kisI jIva kA kiMcitmAtra pramANa bhI nahIM dubhe (Ahata ho), per3a kA bhI pramANa nahIM dubhe|' aise koDa sirpha tIrthaMkaroM ke hI hue hote praznakartA : vANI bolate samaya kisa prakAra kI jAgRti rakhanI cAhie? dAdAzrI : jAgRti aisI rakhanI hai ki 'ye bola bolane meM kisakisakA kisa prakAra se pramANa dubha rahA hai', use dekhanA hai| praznakartA : pA~ca logoM ko eka hI zabda kahate haiM, to sabhI ko alaga-alaga tIvratA se mana du:khatA hai, usakA kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : hameM jAgRti rakhakara phira bolanA hai| hameM jitanA samajha meM Ae utanA karanA hai| usakA upAya nahIM hai| ye 'caMdUbhAI' nyAyasaMgata bolate hoM phira bhI sAmanevAle ko duHkha ho, aisA bhI bahuta bAra hotA hai| aba usakA upAya kyA? paraMtu vaha kucha hI logoM ke sAtha hotA hai| saba jagaha nahIM hotaa| isalie vahA~ para dUsare paTAkhe nahIM phor3eM tabhI Apake paTAkhe baMda hoNge| varnA eka vyakti phor3egA to Apako nahIM phor3anA hogA, phira bhI phUTa jaaegaa| isalie yadi sabhI pakkA kareM ki hama paTAkhe jalAne baMda kara deMge to vaha baMda hogA, nahIM to nahIM hogaa| praznakartA : nayA koDa ho to agale janma meM iphekTa degA yA isa janma meM bhI iphekTa degA?

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AptavANI-6 dAdAzrI : ye kumhAra maTake banAte haiM, usa maTake ko bhaTThI meM pakAkara eka ghaMTe bAda phira nikAla leMge, to kyA hogA? agale janma meM sabakucha acchA hogA, aisA Apane mAnA, isIlie to Apako mujha para zraddhA AI, nahIM to yahA~ baiTheMge kisa taraha? isa bhava meM to kyA hogA ki jo ApakI koDavAlI bhASA hai, vaha pUrI ho jAegI aura phira ApakI vaisI bhASA hI nahIM niklegii| praznakartA : taba phira mauna ho jAe~? dAdAzrI : mauna hI ho jAnA hai| mauna arthAt aisA mauna nahIM ki eka akSara bhI nahIM boleN| mauna arthAt vyavahAra ke lie z2arUrI ho utanI hI vANI rhegii| kyoMki eka TaMkI kA bharA huA mAla, vaha khAlI to honA hI hai| ahaMkAra kA rakSaNa praznakartA : Apane kahA thA ki yaha jo vANI hai, vaha ahaMkAra se nikalatI hai| dAdAzrI : aisA hai na ki vANI bolate haiM, usameM harja nahIM hai| vaha to koDavarDa hai| vaha khulatA jAtA hai aura bolatA rahatA hai, usakA hameM rakSaNa nahIM karanA caahie| praznakartA : rakSaNa nahIM honA cAhie, usakA artha yaha ki 'hama sacce haiM' vaisI bhAvanA nahIM honI cAhie, aisA? dAdAzrI : hama sacce haiM, use hI rakSaNa kahate haiN| aura rakSaNa nahIM ho to kucha bhI nhiiN| gole sabhI phUTa jAe~ge aura kisI ko bhI adhika duHkha nahIM hogaa| ahaMkAra kA rakSaNa karate haiM, usase bahuta duHkha hotA hai| maiM choTe bacce ko bahuta mArU~, phira bhI use kucha bhI nahIM hogA aura yadi nArAz2a hokara Apane z2arA sI capata lagAI ho to vaha koharAma macA degA! yAnI use coTa lagane kA duHkha nahIM hai, ahaMkAra ghAyala huA usakA duHkha hai!

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AptavANI-6 23 zAstrakAroM ne kyA kahA hai ki ahaMkAra eka aisA guNa hai ki jo sabhI logoM ko bilkula aMdhA banA detA hai| bhAIyoM meM bhI duzmanI ho jAtI hai| sagA bhAI kaba barabAda ho jAe aisA socatA hai! are, sagA bApa bhI, beTe ko aisA AzIrvAda detA hai ki kaba yaha barabAda ho jAe! ahaMkAra kyA nukasAna nahIM karatA? yAnI hameM ahaMkAra ko pahacAna lenA cAhie ki 'yaha apanA kauna hai?' praznakartA : lekina hamArA kAma karane ke lie hameM ahaMkAra to cAhie hI na? dAdAzrI : vaha kAma karane kA ahaMkAra hotA hI hai| usake lie kauna manA karatA hai? lekina usa ahaMkAra ko jAnanA cAhie ki ahaMkAra meM aise guNa haiN| tAki hameM usa para prema nahIM rahe, Asakti nahIM rhe| praznakartA : hama cAhe jitanA kareM, paraMtu sAmanevAlA nahIM sudhare to kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : khuda sudhare nahIM aura logoM ko sudhArane gae, usase loga balki bigar3a ge| sudhArane jAe~ ki bigar3ate haiN| khuda hI bigar3A huA ho to kyA hogA? khuda kA sudharanA saba se AsAna hai ! hama nahIM sudhare hoM aura dUsaroM ko sudhArane jAe~, vaha mIniMgalesa hai| taba taka apane zabda bhI vApasa aaeNge| Apa kaho ki, 'aisA mata krnaa|' taba sAmanevAlA kahegA ki, 'jAo, hama to aisA hI kareMge!' yaha to sAmanevAlA balki adhika ulTA calA! isameM ahaMkAra kI z2arUrata hI nahIM hai| ahaMkAra se sAmanevAle ko DarA-dhamakAkara kAma karavAne jAe~, to sAmanevAlA adhika bigdd'egaa| jisameM ahaMkAra nahIM hai, vahA~ usake prati hamezA sabhI sinsiyara rahate haiM aura maoNreliTI hotI hai| hamArA ahaMkAra nahIM honA caahie| ahaMkAra sabhI ko cubhatA hai| choTe bacce ko bhI z2arA sA 'beakla, mUrkha, gadhA', yadi aisA kahA to vaha bhI

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AptavANI-6 Ter3hA calatA hai| aura 'beTA, tU bahuta samajhadAra hai', kaheM ki turaMta vaha mAna jAtA hai 24 I praznakartA : aura use bahuta samajhadAra kaheM to bhI vaha bigar3a jAegA? dAdAzrI : mUrkha kaheM to bhI bigar3a jAegA aura bahuta samajhadAra kaheM to bhI bigar3a jaaegaa| kyoMki samajhadAra kahoge to usake ahaMkAra ko enkarejamenTa mila jAegA aura mUrkha kahoge to sAikolojikala iphekTa ulTA pdd'egaa| aqlamaMda insAna ko 25-50 bAra mUrkha kahoge to usake mana meM vahama ho jAegA ki, 'vAstava meM kyA maiM pAgala hU~?' aisA karate-karate vaha pAgala ho jAegA / isalie maiM pAgala ko bhI 'tere jaisA samajhadAra isa jagat meM koI nahIM' aisA kara - karake enkarejamenTa detA huuN| isa jagat meM hamezA paoNz2iTiva raho / negeTiva kI tarapha mata calanA / paoNz2iTiva kA upAya milegaa| maiM Apako samajhadAra kahU~ aura yadi AvazyakatA se adhika ApakA ahaMkAra khisakA, to mujhe Apako capata mAranA bhI AtA hai, nahIM to vaha ulTe rAste cale aura use enkareja nahIM kareM to vaha Age bar3hegA hI nahIM / 'ahaMkAra nukasAnadAyaka hai' aisA jAna lo, taba se sArA kAma sarala ho jaaegaa| ahaMkAra kA rakSaNa karane jaisA nahIM hai / ahaMkAra khuda hI rakSaNa kara le, aisA hai / vyavahAra kA artha kyA? dekara lo, yA phira lekara do, vaha vyavahAra hai| 'maiM' kisI ko detA bhI nahIM aura 'maiM' kisI kA letA bhI nahIM / mujhe koI detA bhI nhiiN| 'maiM' mere svarUpa meM hI rahatA hU~ / vyavahAra isa prakAra badalo ki hameM dekara lenA hai| yAnI vApasa dene Ae usa ghar3I yadi pusAtA ho taba denA / hama loga bAvar3I meM jAkara kaheM ki, 'tU badamAza hai', to bAvar3I bhI kahegI, 'tU badamAza hai' aura hama kaheM ki, 'tU caudaha loka kA nAtha hai', to vaha bhI hameM kahegI ki, 'tU caudaha loka kA nAtha hai|' isalie

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AptavANI-6 isameM hameM jaisA pasaMda hai, vaisA bolanA caahie| aisA projekTa karo ki Apako pasaMda aae| yaha sArA ApakA hI projekzana hai| isameM bhagavAna ne koI daqhala nahIM kI hai| 25 duniyA meM kisI ko beakla mata kahanA / aklavAlA hI khnaa| tU samajhadAra hai, aisA hI kahoge taba tumhArA kAma hogA / eka AdamI usakI bhaiMsa se kaha rahA thA ki 'tU bahuta samajhadAra hai bA, bahuta aklavAlI hai, samajhadAra hai|' maiMne usase pUchA, 'bhaiMsa ko tU aisA kyoM kahatA hai?' taba usane kahA ki, 'aisA nahIM kahU~ to bhaiMsa to dUdha denA hI baMda kara de|' bhaiMsa yadi itanA samajhatI hai to kyA manuSya nahIM samajheMge? buddhi kI dakhala se huI DakhalAmaNa yaha jagat 'rileTiva' hai, vyavahArika hai / hama sAmanevAle se eka akSara bhI nahIM kaha skte| aura yadi 'parama vinaya' meM hoM to kamiyA~ bhI nahIM nikAla sakate / isa jagat meM kisI kI kamiyA~ nikAlane jaisA nahIM hai| 'kamI nikAlane se kaisA doSa lagegA', usakA patA kamI nikAlanevAle ko nahIM hai| praznakartA : kamI nahIM nikAlate hama loga, lekina sAmanevAle kI pragati ho, isalie bolate haiM / dAdAzrI : usake Age bar3hane kA hisAba Apako nahIM lagAnA hai| Age bar3hAne kA kAma to kudarata apane Apa karatI rahatI hai| Apako sAmanevAle ko Age bar3hAne kI icchA nahIM karanI hai| kudarata kudarata kA kAma karatI hI rahatI hai / hameM apanI tarapha se sabhI farz2a nibhAte rahanA hai buddhi Apako parezAna kare ki aisA kareMge to aisA hogA aura vaisA kareMge to vaisA hogaa| kucha bhI nahIM hotA / koI kucha kara sake aisA hai hI nahIM / kudarata kudarata kA kAma karatI hI rahatI hai / koI kisI se salAha mA~gane nahIM aataa| phira bhI yaha to bina mA~gI salAha parosate hI jAte haiM / isa buddhi kA mAnane jAe~ na to yahA~ para satsaMga meM saba se pahale

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AptavANI-6 niyama cAhie ki aise baiThanA aura aise mata baitthnaa| jahA~ saccA dharma hai, vahA~ 'no laoN laoN' (niyama nahIM hai, vahI niyama) vahI mukhya vastu hai| apane yahA~ para buddhi zabda kI z2arUrata hI nahIM hai| jo DakhalAmaNa (daqhala, gar3abar3a, parezAnI) karavAe usa buddhi ko dhakelane kA prayatna kro| DakhalAmaNa meM nahIM DAlatI ho to usakA harja nahIM hai| bAta to samajhanI hI par3egI na? aisA kaba taka calegA? buddhi Apako imozanala kregii| ApakA isameM kucha bhI nahIM clegaa| saba 'vyavasthita' ke adhIna hai| 'vyavasthita' para thor3A-bahuta vizvAsa baiThA ho to koI prazna hI nahIM rhtaa| yahA~ to praznoM ke binA hI uttara hai| praznakartA : Apa kahate haiM ki prayatna to ekadama aMta taka karane dAdAzrI : prayatna kisake lie karanA hotA hai? prayatna apane saMsAravyavahAra ke lie karanA hotA hai| yahA~ satsaMga meM saMsAravyavahAra nahIM hai| yaha to 'riyala' kA zuddha vyavahAra hai| zuddha vyavahAra meM buddhi kI bilkula z2arUrata nahIM hai| praznakartA : buddhi se sarvenTa kI taraha kAma leM yA nahIM? dAdAzrI : nhiiN| jahA~ saMpUrNa zuddha vyavahAra hai, vaise 'rUma' meM praveza kara liyA to buddhi kA kAma nahIM hai| yahA~ zuddha vyavahAra hai aura bAhara saMsAra vyavahAra hai| saMsAra meM bhI jahA~ buddhi parezAna kare, vahA~ use chor3a denA caahie| 'vyavasthita' kahane ke bAda vikalpa nahIM karanA hotaa| 'jJAnIpuruSa' kI AjJA meM rahe to use, 'zuddha vyavahAra kyA hai', vaha samajha meM A jaaegaa|

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[3] AmaMtrita karmabaMdhI hamArA karma hamArI marjI ke anusAra hotA hai aura Apako karma nacAte haiN| hameM svataMtratA hotI hai, isalie hama caina se baiThate haiN| Apake karma bhI dhIre-dhIre khatma ho jAe~ge, bAda meM Apa bulAoge phira bhI nahIM aaeNge| ve phAlatU nahIM haiN| hamane hastAkSara kie the isalie Ae haiM, nahIM to ve Ate hI nahIM na? karAra para jaise hastAkSara kie haiM, ulajhanavAle haiM to vaisA AtA hai aura sApha-suthare hoM to sApha-sutharA AtA hai| are, satsaMga meM se uThAkara le jAtA hai| cArA hI nahIM na? praznakartA : saMbaMdha rakhA vaha rAga huA, kyA isalie bulAte haiM? dAdAzrI : vaha saba rAga aura dveSa hI hai| lekina pahale hamane hastAkSara kara die haiM, tabhI use rAga utpanna hotA hai, nahIM to koI nAma denevAlA nahIM hai| isa bhava meM kucha hI hastAkSara mAnya hote haiN| Apa jitanA mAnate ho utane hastAkSara nahIM hote| hastAkSara to TAipa hone ke bAda phira se TAipa hotA hai, taba hastAkSara mAne jAte haiN| isalie utane sAre nahIM hote| tapa ke tApa se ubhara AI zuddhatA vyavahAracAritra se lekara TheTha AtmacAritra taka ke cAritra haiN| jJAnadarzana-cAritra aura tp| unameM se jo AtmacAritra hai, vaha aMtima prakAra kA cAritra hai| vyavahAra cAritra kA phoTo khiMca sakatA hai aura isa AtmacAritra kA phoTo nahIM khiNctaa| jo aMtima prakAra ke jJAna-darzana-cAritra aura tapa haiM una cAroM ke hI phoTo nahIM khiMca skte| praznakartA : aMtima tapa kauna sA?

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28 AptavANI-6 dAdAzrI : abhI Apako koI vyakti gAlI de rahA ho, taba usa samaya yadi Apako merA zabda yAda Ae aura usa anusAra nizcita ho jAe ki mujhe 'samabhAva se nikAla' karanA hai, to use tapa kahate haiN| usa ghar3I tapa hI rahatA hai| sabhI bAhya tapa sthUla tapa kahalAte haiM, unakA phala bhautika sukha milatA hai| aura AMtarika tapa sUkSma tapa hai, usakA phala mokSa hai| koI Apako gAliyA~ de, usa samaya bhItara mana-buddhi-citta aura ahaMkAra sabhI tapatA hai, usa tapa ko Apa ThaMDA hone taka dekhate raho, vaha sUkSma tapa kahalAtA hai| sAsa bahU ko DA~TatI rahatI ho, aura bahU samajhadAra ho to use sUkSma tapa bahuta milatA rahatA hai| hindustAna meM yaha tapa apane Apa hI muphta meM ghara baiThe milatA rahatA hai| ghara baiThe gaMgA hai, paraMtu ye loga lAbha nahIM uThAte na! pati Apako kucha kaha de, usa ghar3I Apako tapa karanA caahie| praznakartA : 'akrama vijJAna' meM tapa kA sthAna kahA~ para hai? dAdAzrI : tapa karanA arthAt kyA? jo pichalA hisAba cukAnA par3atA hai, use cukAte samaya miThAsa bhI AtI hai aura kar3avA bhI AtA hai| miThAsa Ae vahA~ bhI tapa karanA hai aura kar3avA Ae vahA~ bhI tapa karanA hai| DiscArja karma kar3avA-mIThA phala die bagaira to rahatA hI nahIM na? praznakartA : isa vyakti ne mujhe gAlI dI, to usakA mujhe turaMta patA cala jAtA hai ki yaha mere karma kA udaya hai| vaha nirdoSa hai, to usameM tapa kise kaheMge? dAdAzrI : isa jJAna se tapa karanA huaa| isameM khuda ko tapa karanA nahIM pdd'taa| bhItara mana-buddhi jo tapate haiM, unheM samatApUrvaka 'dekhate' rahanA, vaha tapa hai| unameM tanmayAkAra nahIM honA hai| pUrA jagat mana-buddhi tapate hai, taba khuda tapa jAtA hai| praznakartA : arthAt tapa karanA par3egA?

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AptavANI-6 / dAdAzrI : tapa karanA nahIM pdd'taa| tapa to svAbhAvika rUpa se ho hI jAtA hai| praznakartA : jaba taka tapa hotA hai, taba taka apUrNatA kahalAtI hai na? dAdAzrI : apUrNatA to, TheTha 'kevalajJAna' hone taka apUrNa hI kahalAtA hai| merA bhI apUrNa kahalAtA hai aura ApakA bhI apUrNa kahalAtA hai| tapa karane se khuda kI jJAnadazA kI DigriyA~ bar3hatI haiN| tapa aMtima zuddhatA lAtA hai| pUrNa zuddha sonA to maiM bhI nahIM kahalAU~gA aura Apa bhI nahIM khlaaeNge| aura jJAnI ko bhI deha ke tapa hote haiN| pratikramaNa : kramika ke - akrama ke praznakartA : Apane kahA ki 'akrama mArga' meM pakSapAta nahIM hotA, to khaMDana ke binA maMDana kisa taraha ho sakatA hai? dAdAzrI : yaha maMDana karane kA mArga hI nahIM hai aura khaMDana karane kA bhI mArga nahIM hai| yaha to jise mokSa meM jAnA hai, usake lie hI yaha mArga hai| aura jise mokSa meM nahIM jAnA hai, usake lie dUsarA rAstA hai| dUsarA dharma cAhie to hama vaha bhI dete haiN| kramika mArga dvArA Age jAnA bahuta kaThora upAya hai, phira bhI vaha hamezA kA mArga hai| jaba taka mana meM alaga hai, vANI meM alaga aura vartana meM alaga hai taba taka koI dharma nahIM clegaa| abhI saba jagaha aisA hI ho gayA hai na? isalie hama, yadi isa kAla ke manuSyoM ko dharma jAnanA ho to unheM kyA sikhalAte haiM? tujhase jhUTha bolA gayA, usameM harja nahIM hai| mana meM tU jhUTha bolA usameM harja nahIM hai, paraMtu aba tU usakA 'isa' taraha pratikramaNa kara aura nizcita kara ki phira se aisA nahIM boluuNgaa| hama pratikramaNa karanA sikhAte haiN|

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30 AptavANI-6 praznakartA : hama rAyazI aura devazI pratikramaNa karate haiM, vaha kyA galata hai? dAdAzrI : pratikramaNa to zUTa eTa sAiTa honA cAhie, udhAra nahIM rakhanA caahie| ye bahIkhAte bhI udhAra nahIM rakhate haiN| vaise hI pratikramaNa bhI udhAra nahIM rakhane caahie| praznakartA : jIva to satata karma ke baMdhana bA~dhate hI rahate haiM, to use kyA satata pratikramaNa karate rahanA hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, karanA hI paDegA! inameM se kaI mahAtmA roz2a pA~ca sau-pA~ca sau pratikramaNa karate haiM! praznakartA : vaha to bhAva pratikramaNa hai, kriyA pratikramaNa to nahIM ho pAe~ge na? dAdAzrI : nahIM, kriyA meM pratikramaNa hotA hI nhiiN| bahuta huA to usase mana acchA rhegaa| praznakartA : usase karmanirjarA hotI hai yA nahIM? dAdAzrI : nirjarA (Atmapradeza meM se karmoM kA alaga honA) to hara eka jIva meM ho rahI hai| paraMtu vaha acchA bhAva hai ki mujhe pratikramaNa karanA hai, tAki nirjarA acchI ho| varnA pratikramaNa to zUTa eTa sAiTa honA caahie| Apa karate ho, vaha dravya pratikramaNa hai, bhAva pratikramaNa caahie| praznakartA : dravya ke sAtha bhAva hotA hai na? dAdAzrI : nahIM, paraMtu sirpha dravya hI hotA hai, bhAva nahIM hotaa| kyoMki dUSamakAla ke jIvoM dvArA bhAva rakhanA, bahuta muzkila cIz2a hai| vaha to 'jJAnIpuruSa' kI kRpA ho aura ve sira para hAtha rakheM, usake bAda bhAva utpanna hote haiN| nahIM to bhAva utpanna nahIM hote| 'jJAnIpuruSa' kise kahate haiM? ki jinheM para-pariNati hI nahIM rhtii| niraMtara svabhAva-pariNati hotI hai| rAta-dina hamezA svabhAva-pariNati rahatI

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AptavANI-6 hai, para-pariNAma nahIM hote| jinake vANI, vartana, vinaya manohara hote hai, ArtadhyAna aura raudradhyAna sarvAMza rUpa se nahIM hote aura ahaMkAra zUnya ho jAne se, Tenzana nahIM hone se, niraMtara mukta hAsya rahatA hai, anaMta guNoM ke bhaMDAra hote haiM, ve 'jJAnIpuruSa' kahalAte haiN| pratikramaNa, jJAnI ke Apa bistara para so gae hoM to jahA~-jahA~ kaMkar3a cubhe, vahA~ se Apa nikAla doge yA nahIM nikAloge? yaha pratikramaNa to, jahA~-jahA~ cubha rahA ho vahIM para karane haiN| Apako jahA~ cubhatA hai, vahA~ se Apa nikAla doge aura jahA~ inheM cubhatA hai, vahA~ se ve nikAla deMge! pratikramaNa hara eka vyakti ke alaga-alaga hote haiN| abhI koI vyakti kisI para upakAra kara rahA ho phira bhI usake ghara para anAcAra ho, aise kesa ho jAte haiM, to vahA~ para pratikramaNa karane hI pdd'eNge| pratikramaNa to, jahA~ cubhe vahA~ sabhI jagaha para karanA par3egA, paraMtu hara eka ke pratikramaNa alaga-alaga hote haiN| mujhe bhI pratikramaNa karane hote haiN| mere alaga prakAra ke aura Apake bhI alaga prakAra ke hote haiN| merI bhUla Apako buddhi se patA nahIM cala sake, aisI hotI hai| yAnI ki ve sUkSmatara aura sUkSmatama hotI haiN| usake hameM pratikramaNa karane par3ate haiN| hameM to upayoga cUkane kA bhI pratikramaNa karanA par3atA hai| upayoga cUka gae, vaha hameM to pusAegA hI nahIM na? hameM ina sabake sAtha bAteM bhI karanI par3atI hai, savAloM ke javAba bhI dene par3ate haiM, isake bAvajUda hameM hamAre upayoga meM hI rahanA hotA hai| jaba taka hamameM sAhajikatA hotI hai, taba taka hameM pratikramaNa kI AvazyakatA nahIM hotii| sAhajikatA meM pratikramaNa Apako bhI nahIM karane pdd'te| sAhajikatA meM pharka par3A ki pratikramaNa karanA pdd'egaa| hameM Apa jaba dekhoge taba sAhajikatA meM hI dekhoge| jaba dekho taba hama vaise hI svabhAva meM dikhate haiN| hamArI sAhajikatA meM badalAva nahIM AtA!

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[4] pratispaMdana se duHkha pariNAma apane se dUsaroM ko duHkha hotA hai, aisA jo hameM dikhatA hai, vaha hamArA sensiTivanesa kA guNa hai| sensiTivanesa eka prakAra kA apanA igoiz2ama hai| vaha igoiz2ama jaise-jaise vilaya hotA jAegA, vaise-vaise hamase sAmanevAle ko duHkha nahIM hogaa| jaba taka apanA igoiz2ama ho taba taka sAmAnevAle ko duHkha hotA hI hai| praznakartA : vaha to ApakI avasthA kI bAta huI! aba hamAre lie praznoM kA hala AnA cAhie na? dAdAzrI : hA~, AnA hI caahie| praznakartA : paraMtu isase to sirpha khuda ke lie hI hala AegA na? dAdAzrI : khuda ke lie hI nahIM, hara eka ke lie dhIre-dhIre hala AnA hI caahie| khuda ke hala A jAe~ tabhI sAmanevAle kA bhI hala AegA, aisA hai| lekina khuda kA igoiz2ama hai taba taka sAmanevAle ko niyama se asara hotA hI rhegaa| vaha igoiz2ama vilaya ho hI jAnA caahie| ye to iphekTsa haiM sirpha! duniyA meM duHkha jaisI vastu hI nahIM hai| yaha to roMga bilIfa hai sirph| use saccA mAnatA hai| aba usakI dRSTi se to vaha vAstava meM vaisA hI hai na? isalie kisI bhI prakAra ke asara hoM hI nahIM, usake lie hameM kaisA bananA cAhie? hameM cokhA (kharA, acchA, zuddha, sApha) ho jAnA caahie| hama cokhe ho gae to bAkI kA saba cokhA hue bagaira rahegA hI nhiiN|

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AptavANI-6 I sAmanevAle kA doSa kisI jagaha para hai hI nahIM, sAmanevAle kA kyA doSa? ve to aisA hI mAnakara baiThe haiM ki yaha saMsAra hI sukha hai aura yahI saccI bAta hai / unheM hama aise manavAne jAe~ ki tumhArI mAnyatA galata hai, to vaha apanI hI bhUla hai ! apanI hI aisI koI kamI raha jAtI hai| maiMne mere anubhava se dekhA hai| jaba taka mujhe vaisA pariNAma rahatA thA, taba taka vaise sabhI iphekTsa rahate the, lekina jaba mere mana meM se vaha calA gayA, zaMkA gaI, to sabakucha calA gayA ! ina sIr3hiyoM ko dekhakara, anubhava karake maiM car3hA hU~ / Apa jo kahate ho, ve sabhI sIr3hiyA~ (pAyadAna) maiMne dekhI haiM / aura unameM se anubhava lekara 'maiM' Upara car3hA huuN| maiM dekha cukA hU~, isalie maiM Apako mArga batA sakatA huuN| ina saba logoM ko maiM jo jJAna detA hU~, taba unheM merI dekhI huI sIr3hiyoM para hI lAtA huuN| jo-jo maiMne anubhava kiyA hai, vahI rAstA Apako batAtA huuN| dUsarA rAstA hai hI nahIM na! I 33 yadi pahale to koI duHkha kA vicAra AtA thA, taba hama kitanA hI jokhima uThAkara bhI usameM dUsarA sukha kA AiDiyA seTa kara dete the| ciMtA ho to sinemA dekhane cale jAte the yA kucha aura karate the| dUsaroM kI qImata para bhI usa ghar3I to duHkha ko khatma kara dete the aura svarUpa kA jJAna hone ke bAda vaha dUsaroM kI qImata para duHkha ko ur3A nahIM detA hai / isalie use duHkha bahuta sahana karanA par3atA hai, aisA mere anubhava meM AyA hai| maiMne khuda bhI yaha anubhava kiyA huA hai, kyoMki dUsaroM ke duHkha se maiM, sukhI hone ke lie usa ghar3I mere mana ko dUsare paryAya nahIM dikhAtA huuN| aura jagat kyA kara rahA hai ki khuda kA duHkha nikAlane ke lie dUsare viSayoM meM par3atA hai, yAnI ki usa duHkha ko yahA~ se vahA~ dhakelatA hai, jagat vahI kara rahA hai na? z2arA sA duHkha par3e ki pU~jI bhunAtA rahatA hai na? bhItara kitanA sAmAna bharA huA hai? hama to ise ( phAila naM -1 se) kahate haiM ki ise bhugato hI / pU~jI ko bhunAkara khA mata jAnA! pU~jI aisI kI aisI anAmata rakhanI hai / ye duHkha A par3eM, usa para loga davAI cupar3ate haiM / are, ulTA jokhima

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34 AptavANI-6 bar3hAyA tUne! usa duHkha ko to tU anubhavapUrvaka dekhegA to usakA jokhima kama ho jaaegaa| duHkha dhakke mArane se calA nahIM jaaegaa| use to balki bar3hAyA, vaha jamApUMjI meM to rahA hii| jisane eka duHkha pAra kiyA vaha phira anaMta du:kha pAra kara skegaa| phira vaha duHkha pAra karanevAlA luTerA bana gayA! maiMne to kitane hI duHkha pAra kara lie haiM, isalie maiM luTerA (vizeSajJa) hI bana cukA hU~ na!

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[5] vyavahAra meM ulajhaneM praznakartA : vyavahAra meM jo gA~The phUTatI haiM, ve aisI-aisI phUTatI haiM ki unameM samAdhAna lenA kaThina ho jAtA hai? dAdAzrI : apane ye 'pA~ca vAkya' haiM, ve Aqhira meM samAdhAna le Ae~, aise haiN| jaldI yA dera se paraMtu ve samAdhAna le Ate haiN| bAkI aura kisI bhI prakAra se samAdhAna nahIM ho sktaa| isalie hI yaha jagat guhya pahelI hai| 'da varlDa iz2a da paz2ala ittselph|' vaha kabhI bhI solva hotI hI nhiiN| pUre dina khuda vyavahAra meM ulajhA huA hI hotA hai, phira kisa taraha vaha Age pragati karegA? koI na koI paheliyA~ khar3I hotI hI rhegii| sAmane koI milA ki pahelI khar3I huii| praznakartA : eka pahelI pUrI kI ho, vahA~ dUsarI pahelI mu~ha phAr3akara khar3I hI hotI hai| dAdAzrI : hA~, yaha to paheliyoM kA saMgrahasthAna hai| paraMtu yadi tU apane Apako pahacAna jAe to ho gayA terA kalyANa! varnA ye paheliyA~ to haiM hI DUbane ke lie! yaha saba parAI pIr3A hai, aisA samajha meM A jAe, to vaha bhI anubhavajJAna hai| anubhava meM Ae ki yaha pIr3A merI nahIM hai, parAI hai, taba bhI kalyANa ho jaaegaa| 'ka' kI karAmAta aMdara sabhI taraha-taraha ke 'ka' baiThe hue haiN| 'ka' arthAt krvaanevaale| lobhaka, mohaka, krodhaka, cetaka... mohaka moha karavAtA hai| hameM moha nahIM karanA ho, phira bhI karavAtA hai!

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36 AptavANI-6 praznakartA : dimAg2a meM aisA hotA rahatA hai ki yaha hama khuda jAnabUjhakara kyoM khar3A kara rahe haiM? yaha baMdha rahA hai yA chUTa rahA hai, aisA vicAra mujhe kyoM karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : nahIM, ve vicAra nahIM karane hoM, to bhI Ae~ge hii| vaha 'ka' Apase karavAtA hai| Apako bhItara ulajhAtA rahatA hai aura kisI ke bAre meM socane jaisA yaha jagat hai hI nhiiN| usameM yadi koI aisA soce to usakA kyA hogA? mAra khAnI par3egI! parAI paMcAyata ke lie jagat nahIM hai| ApakI khuda kI 'sephasAiDa' kara lene ke lie yaha jagat hai| praznakartA : aba yaha paMcAyata mere dimAg2a meM ghusa gaI hai to use nikAlU~ kisa taraha? dAdAzrI : vaha to Apa use pahacAna lo ki yaha to duzmana hai aura yaha riztedAra hai| aise pahacAna lene ke bAda duzmana ko hama yAda hI nahIM kreNge| 'jJAnIpuruSa' kI karuNA aura samatA praznakartA : paraMtu vaha aMdara aisA ghusA huA hotA hai ki dimAg2a meM se haTatA hI nhiiN| dAdAzrI : dekho na! Apako mere lie kitanI adhika bhakti hai, vaha sabhI maiM acchI taraha pahacAnatA hU~, paraMtu phira bhI Apako bhItara kabhI vaha dikhAtA hai ki ye 'dAdA' aise haiN| praznakartA : are, dAdA ko gAliyA~ bhI detA huuN| dAdA ko nahIM, aMbAlAla paTela ko! dAdAzrI : una sabakA mujhe ghara baiThe patA calatA hai, paraMtu Apako 'ka' kaise pha~sAte haiM aura kaise mAra khilavAte haiM ! isalie hama Apa para karuNA rakhate haiM ki ye mAra khAte-khAte kabhI na kabhI samajhadAra ho jaaeNge| kabhI na kabhI patA cala jaaegaa| ye mAra kisalie khilavAte hoMge? mujhe kyA lenA-denA? dAdA ko kyA lenA-denA? 'maiMne aisoM ke sAtha kahA~ mitratA

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AptavANI-6 37 kI ki mujhe mAra khilavAte haiM', kabhI na kabhI Apako aisA anubhava ho jaaegaa| praznakartA : dAdA, vaha anubhava ho cukA hai| hogA nahIM, ho cukA hai! anubhava kaisA ki mujhe aisA hotA thA ki 'yaha bUr3hA parezAna karatA hai aura maiMne to isa paTela ko holI kA nAriyala banAyA, paraMtu vaha saba isa bUr3he ne hI ThIka kara diyA!' maiMne kahA, 'jAna chUTI!' varnA maiMne to dAdA Apako itanI sArI gAliyA~ dI thIM ki kucha bAkI hI nahIM rakhA thaa| phira bhI bhItara aisA hotA rahatA thA ki 'ye jo dAdA haiM, ve to sacce dAdAzrI : vaha hama bhI ghara baiThe jAnate haiM sbkuch| taba eka bAra to maiMne Apase kahA bhI thA ki Apa ulTA-sulTA bolo na, phira bhI usameM mujhe Apatti nahIM hai| Apa to apanI taraha se yahA~ para Ate rahanA, kisI dina sabakucha dhula jaaegaa| Apa ulTA-sulTA bolo usakI hamAre lie qImata nahIM hai| hama to, ApakA kisa taraha zreya ho, vahI dekhate rahate haiN| ApakA, Apake gharavAloM kA, sabhI kA zreya dekhate rahate haiN| Apa to apanI prakRti ke anusAra bolate ho| ApakI dRSTi vAstava meM vaisI nahIM hai| ApakI dAnata (manovRtti, vRtti) bhI vaisI nahIM hai, Apake vicAra bhI vaise nahIM haiN| vaha saba hama jAnate haiN| isalie aba 'ye mAra khilAnevAle haiM aura ye mitra haiM', isa prakAra se Apa mAla ko pahacAna lo| ve mAra khilAnevAle Ae~ to 'Ao bhAI, ApakA hI ghara hai|' kahakara vApasa nikAla denaa| __aMdara jo dikhAte haiM vaha saba galata hai, pUrA sau pratizata galata dikhAte haiM, aisA Apako samajha meM AtA hai na? zaMkA kA samAdhAna hai hI nahIM praznakartA : paraMtu dAdA, samAdhAna meM rahanA muzkila lagatA hai| dAdAzrI : samAdhAna kisa taraha ho pAegA? duniyA meM zaMkA kA

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AptavANI-6 samAdhAna nahIM hotA! saccI bAta kA samAdhAna hotA hai, zaMkA kA samAdhAna kabhI bhI nahIM ho pAtA / 38 I zaMkA arthAt kyA? khuda ke AtmA ko bigAr3ane kA sAdhana / zaMkA duniyA meM sabase kharAba vastu hai aura zaMkA sau pratizata galata hotI hai, aura jahA~ zaMkA nahIM rakhatA, vahA~ para zaMkA hotI hai / jahA~ vizvAsa rakhatA hai, vahA~ para hI zaMkA hotI hai aura jahA~ zaMkA hai vahA~ kucha hai hI nahIM / yoM sabhI prakAra se Apa mAra khAte ho| hamane to 'jJAna' se dekhA hai ki Apa sabhI prakAra se mAra khAte rahate ho| praznakartA : yaha zaMkAvAlI bAta samajha meM nahIM AI ki jahA~ vizvAsa rakhate haiM, vahIM para zaMkA hotI hai / dAdAzrI : aisA hai na, Apa kisa jJAna ke AdhAra para isa dRSTi ko nApa sakate ho? are! khulI A~khoM se dekhA ho, to bhI galata nikalatA hai! yaha to buddhijanya jJAna se, vicAraNA karake dekhate ho ! vaha Apako mAra khilA-khilAkara tela nikAla degA! isalie hama kahate haiM ki buddhi se dUra baittho| buddhi to thor3I dera bhI caina se nahIM baiThane detI / yaha ApakA to bahuta acchA hai| ApakI bhAvanA acchI hai, isalie vApasa mArga para A ge| praznakartA : phira to maiMne pratikramaNa kA z2ora bahuta bar3hA diyaa| subaha jaldI uThakara pratikramaNa karatA thA / dAdAzrI : aise pratikramaNa yahA~ para sIkhe, isa pratikramaNa ne bahuta kAma kara diyaa| isa pratikramaNa ke AdhAra para to Apa jIvita ho / ApakA to itanA hI parivAra hai / merA to kitane hI sadasyoM kA parivAra hai| paraMtu kisI para zaMkA hI nahIM / arthI meM sAtha meM kauna? praznakartA : 'maiM kahatA hU~ vaha saca hai', aisA nahIM mAnanA cAhie, aisA? dAdAzrI : saccA ho, phira bhI hameM kyA ? merA kahanA yaha hai ki

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AptavANI-6 arthI meM akele hI jAnA hotA hai na! phira ye binA kAma ke jhaMjhaTa sira para lekara kahA~ phireM? janma pahalAM cAlato ne mUA pachI cAlaze, aTake nA koI di' vyavahAra re, sApekSa saMsAra re.... - navanIta anaMta janmoM se isI pIr3A meM par3A hai! ye to isa janma ke patnIbacce haiM, lekina hara eka janma meM hara kahIM bIvI-bacce hI rakhe haiM! rAgadveSa kie haiM aura karma hI bA~dhe! ye saMbaMdha-vaMbaMdha jaisA kucha nahIM hotaa| ye to karma phala dete rahate haiN| ghar3Ibhara meM ujAlA dete haiM aura ghar3Ibhara meM aMdherA dete haiN| ghar3I meM mArate haiM aura ghar3I meM phUla car3hAte haiM ! isameM saMbaMdha to hote hoMge! yaha to anAdi se cala hI rahA hai ! hama ise calAnevAle kauna? hama apane karmoM meM se kaise chUTe, vahI 'dekhate' rahanA hai| baccoM kA aura hamArA kucha lenA-denA nahIM hai| yaha to bekAra kI upAdhi! sabhI loga karmoM ke adhIna hai| yadi sacce saMbaMdha hoM na, to ghara meM sabhI loga taya kara leM ki hameM ghara meM jhagar3A nahIM karanA hai, lekina ye to ghaMTe-do ghaMTe bAda lar3a par3ate haiM! kyoMki kisI ke hAtha meM vaha sattA hai hI nahIM na! ye to saba karma ke udaya haiN| jaise paTAkhe phUTate haiM, vaise paTApaTa-paTApaTa phUTate haiN| koI sagA bhI nahIM aura snehI bhI nahIM, to phira zaMkA-kuzaMkA karane ko kahA~ rahA? 'Apa' khuda 'zuddhAtmA', yaha 'ApakA' 'par3osI' zarIra hI Apako duHkha detA hai na! aura bacce to 'Apake' 'par3osI' ke bcce| unake sAtha ApakA kyA lenA-denA? aura par3osI ke bacce nahIM mAneM to hama unase z2arA kahane jAe~ to bacce kyA kahate haiM ki, 'hama kauna-se Apake bacce? hama to 'zuddhAtmA haiN'| kisI ko kisI kI par3I nahIM! praznakartA : yadi sAra nikAleM to sabhI hisAba vasUlane Ae haiN| aura hisAba cukA bhI dete haiM, lekina usameM 'samabhAva se nikAla' hotA hai yA nahIM, itanA hI hameM caahie|

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40 AptavANI-6 dAdAzrI : 'samabhAva se nikAla' ho jAe to kalyANa ho jaae| praznakartA : Apane to kRpA kI jaba ki hamane apanI 'vakratA' kI, paraMtu ve cokhe (kharA, acchA, zuddha, sApha) ho gae, yaha hakIkata hai| dAdAzrI : Apa dAdA ke sAtha itane jur3e rahe, vaha bahuta ho gyaa| eka dina isakA sAra samajha meM A jAegA ki saccA thA yh| praznakartA : are, eka dina hotA hogA? Aja se hI, kala kisane dekhA hai? isalie aisI zakti dIjie ki jo thor3e-bahuta karma bAkI bace haiM, unheM hama nipaTA sakeM aura buddhi ulTe rAste nahIM jaae| dAdAzrI : yahA~ Ate raho na, eka-eka ghaMTe jitanA, to utanA hI vaha vilaya hote-hote khatma ho jaaegaa| 'jJAna' se zaMkA kA zamana praznakartA : bahuta loga aise hote haiM ki jinake lie abhiprAya rahate haiM ki 'yaha vyakti acchA hai, yaha laMpaTa hai, yaha luccA hai, are yaha to lUTane hI AyA hai|' dAdAzrI : abhiprAya baMdhate haiM, vahI baMdhana hai| hamArI jeba meM se kala koI rupaye nikAla le gayA ho aura Aja vaha vApasa yahA~ para Ae to hameM zaMkA nahIM rahatI ki vaha cora hai| kyoMki kala usake karma kA udaya vaisA thA, Aja usakA udaya kaisA hogA, vaha kaise kaha sakate haiM? praznakartA : lekina prANa aura prakRti sAtha meM jAte haiN| dAdAzrI : usa prANa aura prakRti ko nahIM dekhanA hai| hameM usake sAtha lenA-denA nahIM hai, vaha karma ke adhIna hai becaaraa| vaha usake karma bhoga rahA hai, hama apane karma ko bhoga rahe haiN| hameM sAvadhAna rahanA pdd'egaa| praznakartA : usa samaya zAyada usake prati kA samabhAva rahatA hai yA na bhI rhtaa|

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AptavANI-6 dAdAzrI : hamAre kahe anusAra Apa karo ki 'yaha sArA karma ke adhIna hai|' to ApakA kAma ho jAegA aura yadi hamArA jAnevAlA hogA, tabhI jaaegaa| isalie Apako ghabarAne kA koI kAraNa nahIM hai| ____ aMdherI rAta meM gA~va meM dIye ke prakAza meM kamare meM sA~pa ko ghusate hue dekhA, phira Apase se soyA jA sakegA kyA? praznakartA : nahIM, bhaya lgegaa| dAdAzrI : aura Apa akele hI jAnate hoM, to dUsaroM ko kyA hogA? praznakartA : ve to ArAma se so jAe~ge! dAdAzrI : taba bhagavAna ne kahA ki vaha ArAma se so rahA hai, to tU kyoM nahIM sotA? taba vaha kahatA hai, 'maiMne sA~pa ko Ate hue dekhA, nikalate hue dekhUgA taba so jaauuNgaa|' use sA~pa ke ghusane kA jJAna huA hai| nikalane kA jJAna hogA, taba chUTA jA skegaa| lekina jaba taka mana meM vaha zaMkA rahe taba taka nahIM chUTA jA sktaa| praznakartA : nikalate hue nahIM dekhA, taba taka zaMkA kisa taraha jAegI? dAdAzrI : 'jJAnI' ke 'jJAna' se zaMkA jAegI! kucha kisI se bhI, sA~pa se bhI chuA nahIM jA sake, aisA yaha jagat hai| 'hama' jJAna meM dekhakara kahate haiM ki yaha jagat eka kSaNabhara ke lie bhI anyAyI nahIM huA hai| jagat kI korTa, nyAyAdhIza, madhyastha, sabhI anyAyavAle ho sakate haiM, paraMtu jagat anyAyI nahIM huA hai| isalie zaMkA mata krnaa| praznakartA : yAnI bhaya nahIM rakheM? sA~pa dekhA to bhale hI dekhA, paraMtu usakA bhaya nahIM rakhanA hai? dAdAzrI : nahIM rakhane se bhaya nahIM rahe, aisA nahIM hai, vaha to ho hI jAtA hai| aMdara hI aMdara zaMkA karatA hI rhegaa| kisI se kucha ho sake aisA nahIM hai| jJAna meM rahane se zaMkA jaaegii|

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42 AptavANI-6 upAya meM upayoga kisalie? isa jagat meM koI aisA janmA hI nahIM ki jo ApakA nAma de ! aura nAma denevAlA hogA, usake lie Apa lAkhoM upAya karoge taba bhI Apase kucha ho nahIM paaegaa| isIlie kauna sI tarapha jAe~ aba ? lAkha upAya karane meM par3e raheM? nahIM, kucha hogA nahIM / isalie sabhI kAma chor3akara AtmA kI tarapha jAo / praznakartA : yAnI mUla bAta hI Akara khar3I ho gaI / dAdAzrI : hA~, jo ho rahA hai use 'dekhate' raho ki kyA ho rahA hai? vaha 'para' aura 'parAdhIna' vastu hai / aura jo ho rahA hai, vahI nyAya ho rahA hai aura vahI 'vyavasthita' hai| acche logoM ko phA~sI para car3hAte haiM, vaha bhI nyAya hI hai aura duSTa vyakti chUTa gayA vaha bhI nyAya hai| Apako vaha dekhanA nahIM AtA, ki acchA kauna aura duSTa kauna ? Apako kesa kI jA~ca karanA nahIM AtA hai, Apa apanI bhASA meM ise kesa kahate ho / nija spaMdana se pAe paribhramaNa praznakartA : to phira 'sahI hai, galata hai', aisA artha karanA hI nahIM cAhie, aisA huA na? dAdAzrI : sahI-galata, vaha saba bagaira samajha kI bAte haiN| khuda kI samajha se khuda nyAyAdhIza bana baiThA hai| kiMcitmAtra Apako koI kucha kara sake aisA hai hI nahIM, yadi Apa kisI ko parezAna nahIM karo to / usakI maiM Apako gAranTI likha detA huuN| yahA~ nire sA~pa par3e hoM, phira bhI koI Apako chuegA nahIM, aisA gAranTIvAlA jagat hai| ye jJAnI kisa taraha sahIsalAmata aura AnaMda meM rahate hoMge? kyoMki jJAnI jagat ko jAnakara baiThe hue haiM ki 'kucha bhI honevAlA nahIM hai, koI nAma denevAlA nahIM hai, maiM hI hU~ saba meM, maiM hI hU~, maiM hI hU~, dUsarA koI hai hI nahIM ! '

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AptavANI-6 43 bahuta samajhane jaisA jagat hai| loga samajhate haiM vaisA yaha nahIM hai| zAstroM meM likhA hai, vaisA yaha jagat nahIM hai| zAstroM meM to pAribhASika bhASA meM hai, vaha sAmAnya vyaktiyoM ko samajha meM A sake, aisA nahIM hai| ___ Apane daqhalaMdAjI karanA baMda ho jAe to ApameM daqhalaMdAjI karanevAlA duniyA meM koI nahIM hogaa| ApakI dakhalaMdAjI ke hI pariNAma haiM ye saba ! jisa ghar3I ApakI dakhalaMdAjI baMda ho jAegI, taba ApakA koI pariNAma Apake pAsa nahIM aaegaa| Apa pUrI duniyA ke, pUre brahmAMDa ke svAmI ho| koI UparI (baoNsa, variSTha mAlika) hI nahIM hai aapkaa| Apa paramAtmA hI ho, koI Apako pUchanevAlA nahIM hai| ye saba apane khuda ke hI pariNAma haiN| Apa Aja se kisI ko spaMdana pheMkane kA, kiMcatmAtra kisI ke lie vicAra karanA baMda kara do| vicAra Ae to pratikramaNa karake dho DAlanA, tAki pUrA dina kisI ke bhI prati spaMdana binA kA bIte! isa prakAra se dina bIte to bahuta ho gayA, vahI puruSArtha hai|

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[6] vizvakorTa meM se nirdoSa chuTakArA kaba? hamase kisI ko kiMcitmAtra duHkha ho jAe, taba korTa meM phira kesa calatA rahegA! jaba taka korTa meM jhagar3e haiM, taba taka chUTeMge nhiiN| ye korTa ke jhagar3e meM Ae hue loga haiN| aba korTa ke jhagar3e miTAne hoM, to hameM kisIne gAlI dI ho to use chor3a denA hai aura hameM kisI ko bhI gAlI nahIM denI hai| kyoMki yadi hama dAvA kareMge, taba bhI phira kesa calatA rahegA! hama phaujadArI kareMge to vApasa vakIla DhU~Dhane jAnA pdd'egaa| aba hama yahA~ se mukta ho jAnA hai| yahA~ acchA nahIM lagatA, isalie hameM rAstA nikAlanA hai, sabakucha chor3a denA hai! kisI ko kiMcitmAtra duHkha ho to koI jIva mokSa meM nahIM jA sktaa| phira ve sAdhu mahArAja hoM yA cAhe jo hoN| sirpha ziSya ko hI du:kha hotA ho, taba bhI mahArAja ko yahA~ para ruke rahanA par3egA, calegA hI nahIM! jaba ki ajJAnI to sabhI ko duHkha hI detA hai| duHkha nahIM detA ho phira bhI bhAva to bhItara du:kha ke hI baratate rahate haiN| 'ajJAnatA hai vahI hiMsA hai aura jJAna, vaha ahiMsaka bhAva hai|' kisI ko duHkha dene kI icchA tujhe hotI nahIM hai na aba? praznakartA : kabhI-kabhI de diyA jAtA hai| dAdAzrI : duHkha de diyA jAe to kyA karate ho? praznakartA : prtikrmnn|

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AptavANI-6 dAdAzrI : pratikramaNa kiyA to phira korTa meM kesa nahIM clegaa| 'bhAI, tujhase mAfI mA~gate haiN|' aisA karake nikAla kara diyaa| hamase kisI ko thor3A bhI duHkha ho aisI vANI nikalatI hI nhiiN| sAmanevAlA to bhale hI kaisA bhI pAgalapana kare, use to kucha par3I hI nahIM hai na? jise chUTanA hai, use hI par3I hai na? isalie yadi doSa nahIM hote hoM to pratikramaNa karane kI z2arUrata hI nahIM hai| pratikramaNa to Apase doSa ho jAe taba krnaa| sAmanevAlA kahe ki 'sAhaba, doSa hoM hI nahIM, itanI adhika merI zakti nahIM hai| doSa to ho jAte haiN|' taba to hama kaheMge ki, 'zakti nahIM hai to pratikramaNa krnaa|' koI jaisA-taisA bole, lekina usa ghar3I yadi hama javAba de deM, phira vaha javAba bhale hI kitanA bhI suMdara ho, lekina thor3A sA bhI spaMdana phiMka jAe~, taba bhI nahIM clegaa| sAmanevAle ko sabakucha hI bolane kI chUTa hai, vaha svataMtra hai| abhI ve bacce DhelA pheMke to usameM ve svataMtra nahIM hai? pulisavAlA jaba taka roke nahIM, taba taka svataMtra hI hai| sAmanevAlA jIva to, jo cAhe vaha kre| TeDhA cale aura baira rakhe taba to lAkha janmoM taka mokSa meM nahIM jAne degA! isIlie to hama kahate haiM ki 'sAvadhAna rhnaa| Ter3hA mile to jaise-taise karake, bhAIsAhaba karake bhI chUTa jAnA! isa jagat se chUTane jaisA hai|' duHkha dene ke pratispaMdana isa jagat meM Apa kisI ko duHkha doge, to usakA pratispaMdana Apa para par3e bagaira rahegA nhiiN| strI-puruSa ke talAka lene ke bAda puruSa phira se vivAha kare, phira bhI usa strI ko du:kha rahe, to usake pratispaMdana usa puruSa para par3e bagaira raheMge hI nhiiN| aura use vaha hisAba phira se cukAnA pdd'egaa| praznakartA : z2arA vistArapUrvaka samajhAie na! dAdAzrI : yaha kyA kahanA cAhate haiM ki jaba taka Apake nimitta

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AptavANI-6 se kisI ko thor3A bhI duHkha hotA hai, to usakA asara Apa para hI pdd'egaa| aura vaha hisAba Apako pUrA karanA par3egA, isalie saceta rho|| Apa oNphisa meM AsisTenTa ko jhir3ako to usakA asara Apa para par3e bagaira rahegA yA nahIM? par3egA hii| bolo aba jagat duHkha meM se mukta kisa taraha ho pAegA? jisase kisI ko bhI kiMcitmAtra duHkha nahIM hotA ho, vaha khuda sukhI hotA hai| usameM do mata haiM hI nhiiN| hama jo AjJA dete haiM vaha, 'Apa saba du:kha meM se mukta ho jAo', aisI AjJA dete haiN| aura AjJA pAlana karane meM Apako kucha bhI parezAnI nahIM aatii| khAne-pIne kI, ghUmane-phirane kI sabhI chuutt| sinemA dekhane jAnA ho, to usakI bhI chUTa! koI kahe ki mujhe tIna bAlTiyoM se nahAnA hai, to hama kaheM ki cAra bAlTiyoM se nhaa| hamArI AjJA bagaira kisI parezAnI kI haiN| isa taraha kisI kA asara chor3atA nahIM hai aura bacce ko sudhArane jAo, lekina isase use duHkha ho jAe to usakA asara Apa para pdd'egaa| isalie aisA kaho ki jisase usa para asara nahIM par3e aura vaha sudhre| tAMbe meM aura kA~ca ke baratana meM pharka nahIM hotA? Apa tAMbe ke aura kA~ca ke baratana ko eka samajhate ho? tAMbe ke baratana meM gaDDhA par3e to nikAlA jA sakatA hai| lekina kA~ca kA to TUTa jaaegaa| bacce kI to pUrI jiMdagI khatma ho jaaegii| isa ajJAnatA se hI mAra par3atI hai| ise sudhArane ke lie Apa kahate ho, use sudhArane ke lie Apa kahate ho, paraMtu kahane se use jo du:kha huA, usakA asara Apa para pdd'egaa| praznakartA : isa kAla meM baccoM ko to kahanA par3atA hai na? dAdAzrI : kahane meM harja nahIM hai, paraMtu aisA kaho ki use duHkha nahIM ho aura usake pratispaMdana vApasa Apa para nahIM aaeN| Apako taya kara lenA hai ki mujhe kisI ko kiMcitmAtra duHkha nahIM denA hai| yAda-zikAyatoM kA nivAraNa yAda kahA~ se AtI hai? yAda se kaheM, hameM kucha lenA-denA nahIM hai, kucha

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AptavANI-6 47 nahIM cAhie, phira bhI tuma kyoM AtI ho? taba vaha kahegI, 'ApakI yaha zikAyata hai, isalie AI huuN|' taba hama kaheM, 'lAo terA nikAla kara deN|' jo yAda Ae, baiThe-baiThe usakA 'pratikramaNa' karanA hai, aura kucha bhI nahIM karanA hai| jisa rAste hama chUTe haiM, vahI rAste Apako batA die haiN| atyaMta AsAna aura sarala rAste haiM, nahIM to isa saMsAra se chUTA hI nahIM jA sktaa| yaha to bhagavAna mahAvIra chUTe, varnA nahIM chUTa skte| bhagavAna to mahA-vIra kahalAe! phira bhI unake kitane hI ucca aura nimna avatAra hue the| jJAnI ke kahe anusAra caloge, to sabakucha ThIka ho jaaegaa| yAda kyoM AtI hai? abhI bhI kisI jagaha para coMTa (citta kA cipakanA) hai, vaha bhI 'rileTiva' coMTa kahalAtI hai, 'riyala' nahIM khlaatii| 'isa jagat meM koI bhI vinAzI cIz2a mujhe nahIM caahie|' aisA Apane nakkI kiyA hai na? phira bhI kyoM yAda AtA hai? isalie pratikramaNa kro| pratikramaNa karate-karate phira se vApasa yAda Ae, taba hameM samajhanA cAhie ki abhI taka yaha zikAyata bAkI hai! isalie phira se pratikramaNa hI karanA hai| praznakartA : vaha to dAdA, jaba taka unakA bAkI rahe, taba taka pratikramaNa hote hI rahate haiN| use bulAnA nahIM pdd'taa| dAdAzrI : hA~, bulAnA nahIM pdd'taa| hamane nakkI kiyA ho, to ve apane Apa hote hI rahate haiN| praznakartA : udaya Ate hI rahate haiN| dAdAzrI : udaya to Ate hI rheNge| paraMtu udaya yAnI kyA? bhItara jo karma thA, vaha phala dene ke lie sammukha huaa| phira vaha kar3avA ho yA mIThA ho, jo ApakA hisAba ho vaha ! karma kA phala sammukha Ate hI yadi hameM cehare para ukatAhaTa lage, to samajhanA ki bhItara duHkha dene AyA hai aura yadi cehare para AnaMda dikhe to samajhanA ki udaya sukha dene AyA hai| arthAt udaya Ae taba hameM samajha jAnA cAhie ki "bhAI Ae haiM, isakA 'samabhAva se nikAla kara denA hai|"

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48 AptavANI-6 praznakartA : paraMtu usa samaya prakRti thor3A-bahuta z2ora lagAtI hai na phira se? prakRti kA svabhAva nikalatA to hai na? dAdAzrI : sabakucha nikalegA, phira bhI hameM' 'dekhate' rahanA hai| vaha sArA apanA hI hisAba hai| praznakartA : prakRti kA hisAba to pUrA karanA hai na? dAdAzrI : usameM hameM kucha bhI nahIM karanA hai| apane Apa hI hotA rhegaa| 'hameM' to 'dekhate' rahanA hai ki kitanA hisAba bAkI rahA! 'hama' jJAtA-dRSTA, paramAnaMdI, 'hameM' sabhI kucha patA calatA hai| pratikramaNa kara rahe haiM, to 'caMdUbhAI' karate haiN| usase 'hameM' kyA lenA-denA? 'hameM' 'dekhate' rahanA hai ki 'caMdUbhAI' ne pratikramaNa kiyA yA nahIM kiyA? yA vApasa Age dhakelA? dhakelA ho to, vaha bhI patA cala jAegA! 'caMdUbhAI' kyA karate haiM, kyA kyA karate haiM use 'hameM' 'dekhate' rahanA hai, vaha puruSArtha kahalAtA hai| 'dekhanA' cUka gae, vaha prmaad| praznakartA : 'dekhate' rahanA vaha zuddhAtmA kA kAma hai? dAdAzrI : svarUpa kA jJAna hone ke bAda vaha kAma hotA hai, usake binA nahIM hotaa| yAda kyoM AyA? binA kAraNa ke yAda nahIM AtA hai, usakI koI bhI zikAyata hogI tabhI aaegaa| hameM kyoM kucha yAda nahIM AtA? isalie jo-jo yAda AtA hai, usake pratikramaNa karate rhnaa| praznakartA : jo purAnA bharA huA mAla hai, vaha yAda AnA caahie| aisA hai kyA? dAdAzrI : AtA hI hai vh| jo mAla khapanevAlA hai yA karma kA baMdhana karanevAlA hai vaha yAda AtA hI hai| svarUpa kA jJAna ho to mAla khapa jAtA hai aura ajJAna ho to usI mAla se karma kA baMdhana hogA! mAla

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AptavANI-6 vahI kA vahI, lekina ajJAna dazA meM bIja ke rUpa meM hotA hai aura jJAnadazA meM bIja ubAlakara khA gae, usake jaisA hotA hai| ubAlane ke bAda bIja ko ugane kA kahA~ rahA? hArTilI pachatAvA vicAra bhItara par3I huI gA~Tha meM se phUTate haiN| 'eviDensa' milA ki vicAra phUTate haiN| nahIM to yoM to brahmacArI jaisA dikhe, lekina rAste meM saMyoga milA ki viSaya ke vicAra Ate haiM! praznakartA : ve vicAra Ate haiM, ve vAtAvaraNa meM se hI na? sAMyogika pramANoM ke AdhAra para hI usake saMskAra, usake sAthavAle dosta, vaha sabhI ekasAtha milatA hai na? dAdAzrI : hA~, bAhara kA 'eviDensa' milanA caahie| usake AdhAra para hI mana kI gA~The phUTatI haiM, nahIM to nahIM phuutttiiN| praznakartA : una vicAroM ko svIkAra karane ke lie mArgadarzana denevAlA kauna hai? dAdAzrI : vaha saba kudaratI hI hai| lekina sAtha-sAtha Apako samajhanA cAhie ki yaha buddhi galata hai, taba se hI vaha una gA~ThoM kA chedana kara degaa| isa jagat meM sirpha jJAna hI prakAza hai| yaha mere lie ahitakArI hai, aisA use samajha meM Ae, aisA jJAna use prApta ho jAe to vaha gA~ThoM ko cheda ddaalegaa| praznakartA : paraMtu vaha to sabhI aisA mAnate haiM ki 'jhUTha bolanA pApa hai, bIr3I pInA kharAba hai, mA~sAhAra karanA, asatya bolanA, galata prakAra kA AcaraNa, vaha saba kharAba hai|' phira bhI loga galata karate hI jAte haiN| vaha kyoM? dAdAzrI : 'yaha saba galata hai, yaha nahIM karanA cAhie', aisA sabhI bolate haiM, ve nATakIya bolate haiN| suparaphluasa bolate haiM, hArTilI nahIM bolte| varnA yadi vaisA hArTilI boleM, to thor3e samaya meM doSoM ko jAe

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50 AptavANI-6 binA cArA hI nahIM! ApakA cAhe jitanA kharAba doSa ho, paraMtu usakA Apako khUba hArTilI pachatAvA ho to vaha doSa phira se nahIM hogA aura phira se ho jAe to bhI usameM harja nahIM hai, paraMtu pachatAvA khUba karate rhnaa| praznakartA : yAnI manuSya ke sudharane kI saMbhAvanA hai kyA? dAdAzrI : hA~, bahuta hI saMbhAvanA hai, paraMtu sudhAranevAlA honA caahie| usameM 'M.D.' cAhie, 'ER.C.S.' DaoNkTara nahIM calegA, ghoTAlevAlA nahIM calegA, usake to 'sudhAranevAle' caahie| aba kucha logoM ko aisA hotA hai ki khUba pachatAvA kiyA, phira bhI vApasa vaisA hI doSa ho jAtA hai, to use aisA lagatA hai ki yaha aisA kyoM huA-itanA adhika pachatAvA huA phira bhI? vAstava meM to yadi hArTilI pachatAvA ho, to usase doSa avazya jAtA hI hai! doSoM kA zuddhikaraNa khuda kI bhUleM dikhe, vaha AtmA hai| khuda apane Apa ke lie niSpakSapAtI huA, vaha AtmA hai| Apa AtmA ho, zuddha upayoga meM raho to Apako koI karma chuegA hI nhiiN| kucha loga mujhe kahate haiM ki ApakA jJAna saccA hai, paraMtu Apa gAr3iyoM meM ghUmate ho, vaha jIvahiMsA nahIM mAnI jAegI? taba mujhe kahanA par3atA hai ki, 'hama zuddha upayogI haiN|' aura zAstra kahate haiM ki, 'zuddha upayoga ne samatAdhArI, jJAnadhyAna manohArI re, karma kalaMka ko dUra nivArI, jIva vare zivanArI re|' khuda ke doSa dikhane lageM, tabhI se tarane kA upAya hAtha meM A gyaa| caMdUbhAI meM jo-jo doSa haiM, ve sabhI 'hameM' dikhate haiN| yadi khuda ke doSa nahIM dikheM to, yaha 'jJAna' kisa kAma kA? isalie kRpAludeva ne kahA thA, 'huM to doSa anaMtanuM bhAjana chu karuNALa, dIThA nahIM nijadoSa to tarIe koNa upAya?'

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AptavANI-6 doSa ho jAe usameM harja nahIM hai| usa para upayoga rakhanA hai| upayoga rakhA to doSa dikhate hI rheNge| aura kucha bhI nahIM karanA hai| caMdUbhAI se 'Apako' itanA hI kahanA par3egA ki pratikramaNa karate rho| Apake ghara ke sabhI logoM ke sAtha Apako, 'mujhase pahale kucha bhI manaduHkha huA ho, isa bhava meM, saMkhyAta yA asaMkhyAta bhavoM meM jo-jo rAgadveSa, viSaya-kaSAya se doSa kie hoM maiM unakI kSamA mA~gatA huuN|' isa taraha roz2a eka-eka ghaMTA nikaalnaa| ghara ke haraeka vyakti ke, AsapAsa ke sarkala ke, haraeka ko lekara, upayoga rakhakara pratikramaNa karate rahanA caahie| aisA karane ke bAda ye sAre bojha halke ho jaaeNge| varnA yoM hI halkA nahIM huA jaataa| hamane pUre jagat ke sAtha isa taraha nivAraNa kiyA hai, tabhI to yaha chuTakArA huaa| jaba taka sAmanevAle kA doSa khuda ke mana meM hai, taba taka caina nahIM par3ane detaa| pratikramaNa karo to vaha khatma ho jaaegaa| rAga-dveSavAlI hara eka cIkaNI phAila (gAr3ha RNAnubaMdhavAle vyakti athavA saMyoga) ko upayoga rakhakara pratikramaNa karake zuddha karanA hai| rAga kI phAila ho, usake to khAsa pratikramaNa karane caahie| pratikramaNa ho gae yAnI cAhe jitanA baira ho, phira bhI isa bhava meM hI chUTa jaaeNge| pratikramaNa hI eka upAya hai| bhagavAna mahAvIra kA siddhAMta, AlocanA, pratikramaNa aura pratyAkhyAna kA hai| jahA~ para AlocanA, pratikramaNa aura pratyAkhyAna nahIM hai, vahA~ para mokSamArga hI nahIM hai| hamameM sthUla doSa yA sUkSma doSa nahIM hote haiN| jJAnI ke sUkSmatara aura sUkSmatama doSa hote haiN| jo anya kisI ko kiMcitmAtra bhI ar3acanarUpa nahIM hote| hamAre sUkSma se sUkSma, ati sUkSma doSa bhI hamArI dRSTi se bAhara nahIM jA skte| aura kisI ko patA nahIM calatA ki hamArA doSa huA hai| Apake doSa bhI hameM dikhate haiM, paraMtu hamArI dRSTi Apake zuddhAtmA kI tarapha hotI hai, udayakarma kI tarapha dRSTi nahIM hotii| hameM sabhI ke doSoM

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52 AptavANI-6 kA patA cala jAtA hai, paraMtu usakA hama para asara nahIM hotaa| isalie hI kavi ne likhA hai ki, 'mA kadI khoDa kADhe nahIM, dAdAne ya doSa koInA dekhAya nhiiN|' ApakI nirbalatA hama jAnate haiM aura nirbalatA hotI hI hai| isalie hamArI sahaja kSamA hotI hai| kSamA denI nahIM par3atI, mila jAtI hai, sahaja rUpa se| sahaja kSamA guNa to aMtima dazA kA guNa kahalAtA hai| hamArI sahaja kSamA hotI hai| itanA hI nahIM, paraMtu Apake prati hameM eka sarIkhA prema rahatA hai| jo bar3he-ghaTe, vaha prema nahIM hotA, vaha Asakti hai| hamArA prema bar3hatA nahIM aura ghaTatA bhI nhiiN| vahI zuddha prema, paramAtma prema hai! doSa huA ki turaMta hI Apako zUTa eTa sAiTa pratikramaNa karanA caahie| Apako' 'caMdUbhAI' se kahanA hai, 'calo caMdUbhAI, pratikramaNa kro|' caMdUbhAI kaheM ki, 'ye bur3hApA A gayA, aba nahIM hotaa|' taba Apako use kahanA hai ki, 'hama Apako zakti deNge|' phira bulavAnA ki bolo, 'maiM anaMta zaktivAlA hU~' taba phira zakti A jaaegii| jise doSa dikhane lage, pA~ca dikhe taba se hI samajhanA ki aba niber3A AnevAlA hai| jitane doSa dikhe, ve doSa gae! taba koI kahegA, vaisA kA vaisA doSa phira se dikhatA hai| vAstava meM vahI doSa phira se nahIM aataa| yaha to ekaeka doSa pyAja kI paratoM kI taraha aneka paratoMvAle hote haiN| yAnI jaba eka parata ukhar3e, taba hama pratikramaNa karake nikAla dete haiM, taba dUsarI parata Akara khar3I rahatI hai, vahI kI vahI parata phira se nahIM aatii| tIsa parateM thIM, unameM se unatIsa rhii| unatIsa meM se eka parata jAegI taba aTThAisa rheNgii| aise ghaTatI jAe~gI aura aMta meM vaha doSa khatma ho jAegA!

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[7] prakRti ke sAtha tanmaya dazA meM AtmaprakAza kI nirlepatA mUla bAta ko samajho ki yaha hakIkata kyA hai? aura mUla bAta kyA hai? itanA hI jAnane ke lie yaha manuSyatva hai / isameM 'apanA kyA aura kyA apanA nahIM hai' itanA jAna lo / phira ronA-dhonA karanA ho to karo / apanI khuda kI duniyA meM hamane hI bhUla khAI hai| parAI duniyA meM Ae hote to bAta alaga thI ! praznakartA : duniyA apanI kahA~ se hai ? dAdAzrI : to kisakI hai? apanI kA artha itanA hI ki apanA koI mAlika nahIM hai aura apanA koI UparI nahIM hai| duniyA apanI hI hai| isa duniyA ko dekhane kA lAbha uThAo, jAnane kA lAbha uThAo to sahI hai| praznakartA : use dekhane-jAnane meM hama phira se aMdara ghusa jAte haiM aura ulajha jAte haiM / dAdAzrI : jo ulajha jAtA hai, vaha hamArA svarUpa nahIM hai| phira bhI 'yaha merA svarUpa hai, maiM ulajha gayA' aisA mAnatA hai, vahIM para bhUla khAtA hai| 'dekhe-jAne' to kudarata kaisI suMdara dikhegI ! paraMtu use bhItara ciMtA hotI hai, isalie kudarata ko dekhatA hI nahIM hai na! bAga-bagIce bahuta suMdara hote haiM, paraMtu use z2ahara jaise lagate haiM / jagat hamezA manohArI hI hai| ye gAyeM-bhaiMse kitanI acchI dikhatI haiM ! paraMtu ina manuSyoM kA saMga karate haiM isalie gAyoM-bhaiMsoM ko bhI parezAnI AtI hai /

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54 AptavANI-6 praznakartA : ina gAyoM-bhaiMsoM ko patA calatA hogA ki manuSya aise Ter3he haiM? dAdAzrI : nahIM, ve manuSya meM se hI bane haiN| manuSya ke sAtha hI sAtha Taca meM rahatI haiM becArI / ye gAyeM - bhaiMse to saMbaMdhiyoM kI hI beTiyA~ AI hotI haiM! aura kuttA ghara meM baiThe-baiThe bhauMkatA hai, vaha bhI saMbaMdhI hI Ae hote haiN| praznakartA : yaha jIva mara jAe, phira turaMta janma le lete haiM ? dAdAzrI : turaMta hI, usameM dera hI kitanI ! isameM koI janma denevAlA bhI nahIM hai aura koI lenevAlA bhI nahIM ! praznakartA : yAnI yaha sArA svayaM - saMcAlita hai ? dAdAzrI : hA~, yaha sArA svayaM-saMcAlita hai| svabhAva se hI saMcAlita hai| jaise pAnI kA svabhAva nIce jAne kA hai, vaha nIce hI jAegA / use Apa cAhe jitanA karo, phira bhI svabhAva badalegA nahIM / praznakartA : hamArI prakRti hai, to kucha prakRtiyA~ U~cI jAtI haiM aura kucha nIcI jAtI haiN| dAdAzrI : una sabhI prakRtiyoM ko dekhanA hI hai| yaha moTara kI lAiTa hai, vaha bAMdarA ( muMbaI kI eka jagaha ) kI khAr3I ke kIcar3a ko chue, khAr3I ke pAnI ko chue, khAr3I kI gaMdha ko chue, paraMtu lAiTa ko kucha bhI chUtA nahIM hai! vaha lAiTa kIcar3a ko chUkara jAtI hai paraMtu kIcar3a use nahIM chuutaa| gaMdha nahIM chUtI, kucha bhI nahIM chUtA / hameM bhaya rakhane kA koI kAraNa hI nahIM hai ki lAiTa kIcar3avAlI ho jAegI, gaMdhavAlI ho jAegI yA pAnIvAlI ho jaaegii| yaha lAiTa yadi aisI hai to AtmA kI lAiTa kitanI acchI hogI ! AtmA lAiTa svarUpa hI hai ! praznakartA : hama prakRti ke sAtha tanmayAkAra ho gae haiM, to hamArA jo mizracetana hai, use to gaMdagI chUtI hai na? dAdAzrI : use chue use hameM 'dekhanA' hai! praznakartA : paraMtu usakA hama para asara hotA hai, usakA kyA?

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AptavANI-6 55 dAdAzrI : use bhI 'hameM' dekhanA hai! lAiTa kA kAma kyA hai? 'dekhnaa'| usameM pahAr3I Ae, kIcar3a Ae, pAnI Ae, gaMdha Ae to gaMdha, jhADiyA~ Ae to jhADiyoM meM se bhI ghusakara nikala jAtI hai| paraMtu use jhAr3I lagatI nahIM hai| yaha lAiTa yadi aisI hai, to vaha lAiTa kitanI acchI hogI! Apa aMdhere meM DrAiviMga karo to Apako patA nahIM calatA ki kitane jIva-jaMtu (jIvANu) kucale jAte haiN| lAiTa lagAo to turaMta patA calatA hai ki itane sAre jIva-jaMtu TakarA rahe haiM! are, ye to lAiTa ke kAraNa dikhaa| to kyA pahale nahIM TakarA rahe the? TakarA hI rahe the| ve faoNrenarsa ko nahIM dikhate aura hameM lAiTa hai isalie dikhate haiN| hameM dikhate haiM, isIlie hama upAdhi meM hote haiM aura unheM upAdhi nahIM hotii| isa taraha yaha jagat calatA hai! praznakartA : paraMtu upAdhi meM to AnA hI par3atA hai na sabhI ko? dAdAzrI : upAdhi meM Ae~ haiM isalie hama nipAdhi kA rAstA DhU~Dha nikAlate haiN| lekina jo upAdhi meM AyA hI nahIM, vaha niu~pAdhi kA rAstA kisa taraha DhU~r3hegA? use to abhI upAdhi meM AnA bAkI hai| eka hI bAra bAta ko samajhanA hai| yaha bAhara kI lAiTa kisI ko chUtI nahIM aura isa lAiTa kI vajaha se jIvajaMtu TakarAte hue dikhate haiM, nahIM to kucha bhI nahIM dikha rahA thaa| yAnI samajha lene ke bAda koI ciMtA nahIM aura upAdhi bhI nahIM! lekina 'hama' 'jAna leM' ki lAiTa huI, isa vajaha se dikha rahA hai ki ye jIvajaMtu kucale jA rahe haiN| inameM se kisI cIz2a ke 'hama' kartA nahIM haiN| praznakartA : vyavahAra meM kisI bhAga meM naimittika kartApana AtA hai| usameM hama jaba adhika tanmayAkAra ho jAte haiM, taba adhika riekzana Ate haiN| dAdAzrI : use bhI 'hameM' dekhanA hai| nahIM dekho to koI badalAva hogA nhiiN| hameM kAma karate jAnA hai| subaha pahale cAya pIte ho yA nahIM pIte? usameM kahIM 'karate rahanA' aisA kahane kI z2arUrata par3atI hai? phira bhI aisA nahIM bolanA cAhie ki 'kAma mata karanA, aise hI calatA rhegaa|' aisA bolanA, vaha gunAha hai| hameM to 'kAma karate jAo' aise kahanA hai|

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AptavANI-6 'vyavasthita' kI saMpUrNa samajha se kevalajJAna gAr3I meM se utAra deM to samajhanA ki 'vyavasthita' hai| phira vApasa bulAe~, taba bhI 'vyavasthita' aura phira utAra deM, taba bhI 'vyvsthit'| aise sAta bAra utAra deM, taba bhI 'vyavasthita'! sAta bAra car3hAe~ taba bhI 'vyvsthit'| aisA jise baratatA hai use kevalajJAna ho jAegA! hamane aisA 'vyavasthita' diyA hai ki kevalajJAna ho jAe, 'vyavasthita' yadi saMpUrNa, pUrApUrA samajha le to! 'vyavasthita' to caubIsoM tIrthaMkaroM ke zAstroM kA sAra hai| praznakartA : Apako pahale vyavasthita samajha meM AyA hogA, bAda meM yaha jJAna dene lage na? dAdAzrI : hA~, bAda meM hI diyA thA na! 'vyavasthita' mere anubhava meM kitane hI janmoM se A cukA hai aura usake bAda hI maiMne yaha bAhara diyaa| nahIM to de hI nahIM sakate na! isameM to jokhimadArI AtI hai| vItarAgoM kA eka akSara bhI bolanA aura kisI ko upadeza denA, bar3I jokhimadArI hai| Apako kitanI bAra moTara meM se utAra deM to 'vyavasthita' hAz2ira rahegA? praznakartA : cAra-pA~ca bAra, phira kamAna chaTaka jaaegii| dAdAzrI : kamAna chaTaka jAe to vaha pudgala (jo pUraNa aura galana hotA hai) kI chttkegii| 'hameM' to 'jAnanA' hai ki yaha pudgala kI kamAna chaTakI hai| hameM to kyA kahanA hai ki, 'yaha pudgala kI kamAna chaTakI hai, phira bhI maiM vApasa A gayA aura moTara meM baiTha gyaa|' yaha kamAna chaTakI hai, aisA 'hameM' 'jAnanA' caahie| yaha 'vyavasthita' aisA suMdara hai! yadi kamAna chaTake aura vApasa Ar3A hokara (nArAz2a honA) calA jAe aura phira vApasa nahIM Ae to vaha galata khlaaegaa| yaha 'vyavasthita' samajha meM A gayA, phira kucha bhI daqhalaMdAjI karane jaisA hai hI nhiiN| pudgala kA jo honA ho so ho, paraMtu hameM Ar3A nahIM honA hai| pudgala to hameM Ar3A karane kI tAka meM lagA rahatA hai|

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[8] asaroM ko svIkAra karanevAlA praznakartA : aMta:karaNa ke kauna-se bhAga ko pahale iphekTa hotA hai? dAdAzrI : pahale buddhi ko iphekTa hotA hai| buddhi yadi hAz2ira nahIM ho, to asara nahIM hotaa| praznakartA : bhArI vikaTa saMyogoM meM aMta:karaNa se Age kauna-se bhAga ko iphekTa hotA hai? dAdAzrI : Age kisI ko asara nahIM hotaa| praznakartA : 'pratiSThita AtmA' ko hotA hai? dAdAzrI : vaha 'pratiSThita AtmA' hI kahalAtA hai| aMta:karaNa meM krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha, mana-buddhi-citta-ahaMkAra, una sabhI ko 'pratiSThita AtmA' hI kahate haiN| praznakartA : to phira 'pratiSThita AtmA' aura aMta:karaNa, unheM alaga kyoM kiyA? dAdAzrI : alaga nahIM kahA hai| 'zuddhAtmA' ke alAvA pUrA hI 'pratiSThita aatmaa'| phira pUcho, taba aMta:karaNa alaga, indriyA~ alaga, mana alaga, aise javAba to denA par3atA hai na! praznakartA : buddhi ko asara hotA hai, to mana ko asara nahIM pahu~catA? dAdAzrI : buddhi meM se mana ko pahu~catA hai| yadi buddhi bIca meM nahIM hogI to koI bhI asara hI nahIM hogaa|

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AptavANI-6 hamameM buddhi nahIM hai, isalie hameM koI asara nahIM hotaa| hamAre bhItara bhI taraha-taraha ke 'cAlabAz2a' haiM, ve taraha - taraha kA kaha jAte haiM, paraMtu yadi bIca meM svIkAra karanevAlI buddhi hogI to gar3abar3a hogI na ! buddhi svIkAra karatI hai, phira mana pakar3a letA hai aura mana dhamAcaukar3I macA detA hai! 58 praznakartA : buddhi ne svIkAra kiyA, phira jugAlI karane kI kriyA kauna karatA hai? dAdAzrI : buddhi svIkAra karatI hai aura phira mana ko pahu~catA hai| aba mana hI uchalakUda karatA hai, jugAlI karane kA kAma bhI mana hI karatA hai| mana virodhAbhAsI hai / vaha ghar3Ibhara meM aise le jAtA hai aura ghar3Ibhara meM dUsare kaune para le jAtA hai, hilA-hilAkara tUfAna macA detA hai ! buddhi aura prajJA kA DimArkezana praznakartA : yaha kAma prajJA ne kiyA yA buddhi ne kiyA, vaha kisa taraha patA calegA? buddhi aura prajJA kI paribhASA kyA hai? kucha bAta ho jAe to kahate haiM buddhi daur3AI, buddhi khar3I huI, to buddhi kyA hai? dAdAzrI : ajaMpA (becainI, azAMti, ghabarAhaTa) kare, vaha buddhi hai| prajJA meM ajaMpA nahIM hotA / Apako thor3A bhI ajaMpA ho to samajhanA ki buddhi kA calana hai| Apako buddhi kA upayoga nahIM karanA ho, phira bhI upayoga ho hI jAtA hai / vahI Apako caina se baiThane nahIM detI / vaha Apako imozanala karavAtI hai| usa buddhi ko hameM kahanA hai ki 'he buddhibahana ! Apa apane pIhara jaao| hameM aba Apake sAtha koI lenA-denA nahIM hai|' sUrya kA ujAlA ho jAe, phira momabattI kI z2arUrata rahegI kyA? arthAt AtmA kA prakAza hone ke bAda buddhi ke prakAza kI z2arUrata nahIM rhtii| mujhameM buddhi nahIM hai| maiM abudha hU~ / praznakartA : to phira mauna rahanA, use buddhi daur3AI nahIM kahA jAegA? dAdAzrI : mauna rakhane se rahegA nahIM /

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AptavANI-6 59 praznakartA: nahIM, paraMtu kisI se mauna rakhA gayA to? dAdAzrI : kisa taraha rahegA? buddhi imonazanala hI rakhatI hai| mozana meM rakhatI hI nhiiN| zAMti se ghar3Ibhara ke lie Apako baiThane hI nahIM degii| buddhi rAta ko do baje uThA degI ! dhamAcaukar3I ! dhamAcaukar3I ! caina se ArAma bhI nahIM karane degI ! praznakartA : jaba jJAtA - dRSTA raheM, taba hI buddhi kA upayoga nahIM hogA? dAdAzrI : jJAtA-dRSTA raheM, phira buddhi kA harja nahIM hai, phira to buddhi kA upayoga hogA hI kaise ? phira to aMtima 'sTezana' A jAegA ! para buddhi jJAtA-dRSTA rahane hI nahIM detii| sabz2I lene mArkeTa gae hoM aura Apako satsaMga meM jAne kI jaldI ho, taba bhI yaha buddhi cAra dukAnoM para ghumAtI hai ! taba jAkara chor3atI hai! buddhi bhaTakAtI hI rahatI hai ! praznakartA : jahA~ para jo milA, sakhta bhiMDI lekara ghara Ae, yAnI buddhi nahIM daur3I aisA? dAdAzrI : Apako kyA bharosA hai ki sakhta AegI yA narama AegI? kaI to dukAna para jAkara sirpha bolate haiM ki bhiMDI taula do aura acchI bhiMDI A jAtI hai ! aura sakhta Ae, taba bhI kyA kucha bigar3a gayA? saMsAra meM to aisA calatA hI rhegaa| roz2a sakhta nahIM Ae~gI / kabhI hI AtI hai| lekina phira usakA puNya hotA hai na? bhale manuSyoM ke to puNya bhI saba bhale hI hote / ve Age se Age taiyAra hI hote haiM / aura khaTapaTa karanevAle kA hI sArA puNya khaTapaTavAlA hotA hai| ahaMkAra ke udaya meM 'eDajasTamenTa' praznakartA : yaha ahaMkAra, vaha kyA vastu hai? dAdAzrI : ahaMkAra, vaha koI vastu nahIM hai / kisIne kahA ki

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AptavANI-6 'Apa caMdUbhAI ho' aura Apane mAna liyA ki 'maiM caMdUbhAI hU~', vaha ahaMkAra! praznakartA : paraMtu use AghAta lage taba acche-bure kA kucha bhI bhAna nahIM rhtaa| dAdAzrI : ahaMkAra kI A~khe kabhI bhI hotI hI nahIM, aMdhA hI hotA hai| praznakartA : yAnI bAkI saba se ahaMkAra bar3A hai na? dAdAzrI : hA~, vaha saradAra hai| usakI saradArI ke nIce hI to yaha saba calatA hai! praznakartA : to usa samaya kyA eDajasTamenTa lenA cAhie? dAdAzrI : kyA eDajasTamenTa lenA hai? 'Apako dekhate hI rahanA hai ki kaisA aMdhA hai!' vaha 'eDajasTamenTa' lenA hai| ahaMkAra koI vastu nahIM hai| 'hama' jo mAnate haiM ki 'yaha maiM hU~' vaha sArA hI ahaMkAra aura 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' utanA hI niahNkaar| 'maiM paTela hU~', 'maiM pacAsa varSa kA hU~', 'maiM kalekTara hU~', 'maiM vakIla huuN'| jo-jo bole, vaha sArA ahaMkAra hai| praznakartA : acchA karane ke lie jo prerita karatA hai, vaha bhI ahaMkAra kahalAtA hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, vaha bhI ahaMkAra kahalAtA hai| galata karane kI preraNA de, vaha bhI ahaMkAra kahalAtA hai| vaha acche meM se galata kaba karegA, vaha kahA nahIM jA sktaa| kyoMki aMdhA hai na? yadi Apa jise dAna de rahe hoM aura vahI manuSya kucha aisA zabda bola gayA, to Apa use mArane daur3oge! kyoMki vaha ahaMkAra hai| praznakartA : sainika aisA kahe ki 'maiM hindustAna ke lie lar3atA hU~', to vaha ahaMkAra hai?

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AptavANI-6 dAdAzrI : hA~, vaha saba ahaMkAra hai lekina kula milAkara vaha kucha lAbha nahIM detaa| thor3A puNya baMdhatA hai| acchA karanevAlA kaba galata kara degA, vaha kahA nahIM jA sktaa| Aja hindustAna ke lie lar3a rahA hai aura kala usake kaipTaeNna ke sAtha bhI jhagar3A kara legaa| usakA kucha ThikAnA nahIM hai| ahaMkAra bilkula nirlajja hai| kaba ulTA karegA, vaha kahA nahIM jA sktaa| vaha dhyeya rahita cIz2a hai| aura jitane loga ahaMkAra se dhyeya rakhate the, ve saba hindustAna meM pUje jAte haiN| praznakartA : paraMtu Age bar3hane ke lie ahaMkAra kI z2arUrata to hai na? dAdAzrI : vaha ahaMkAra to apane Apa rahatA hI hai| ahaMkAra apane rakhane se nahIM rhtaa| Akara ghusa hI jAtA hai! praznakartA : manovijJAna meM aisA likhA hai ki parsanAliTI ke DevelapamenTa ke lie thor3e-bahuta ahaMkAra kI z2arUrata hai, vaha ThIka hai? ___ dAdAzrI : vaha to kudaratI hotA hI hai| DevelapamenTa ke lie kudarata kA niyama hI hai ki ahaMkAra khar3A hotA hai aura khuda Develapa hotA jAtA hai| aise karate-karate jaba DevelapamenTa pUrA hone lagatA hai, taba hindustAna meM AtA hai| usake bAda usa DevelapamenTa kI bahuta z2arUrata nahIM rhtii| mokSa kA mArga mila jAe, phira ahaMkAra kA aisA pAgalapana kauna karegA? yaha to bhale hI kitanA bhI acchA hogA, dAnezvarI hogA, paraMtu ghara pahu~ce to bahuta sArI ciMtA, upAdhiyA~ hotI hI haiM ! pUrA dina aMtaradAha calatA hI rahatA hai! 'AtmaprApti' ke lakSaNa praznakartA : yadi maiMne mere AtmA ko pahacAna liyA ho, to mujhameM kauna-se lakSaNoM kI zurUAta hogI? mujhameM kaisA parivartana hogA ki jisase maiM samajha sakU~ ki maiM sahI rAste para hU~? dAdAzrI : saba se pahale to igoiz2ama baMda ho jaaegaa| dUsarA, krodhamAna-mAyA-lobha cale jAe~ge, taba samajhanA ki Apa AtmA ho gae! Apake aise lakSaNa ho gae haiM?

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62 AptavANI-6 praznakartA : nahIM, ve to abhI taka nahIM hue / dAdAzrI : yAnI ve lakSaNa utpanna ho jAe~ taba phira samajhanA ki Apa AtmasvarUpa ho gae ho| abhI Apa 'caMdUbhAI' svarUpa ho ! abhI koI bole ki, 'isa DaoNkTara caMdUbhAI ne merA kesa bigAr3a diyaa|' taba phira Apako yahA~ baiThe-baiThe asara hogA yA nahIM hogA? praznakartA : asara to hogA / dAdAzrI : isalie Apa 'caMdUbhAI' ho ! aura isa 'aMbAlAla' ko koI gAlI de, to 'maiM' isa 'aMbAlAla' se kahU~gA ki 'dekho, Apane kahA hogA, isalie yaha Apako gAliyA~ de rahA hai ! ' hameM bilkula judApana kA hI anubhava hotA hai| ApakA bhI judA ho jAegA, taba phira paz2ala' solva ho jaaegii| nahIM to roz2a 'paz2ala' khar3I hotI hI raheMgI ! praznakartA : ye 'paz2ala' haiM, ve saba jIvana ke sAtha guMthI huI haiM yA ve karma bhogane ke lie haiM? I dAdAzrI : vaha nAsamajhI hai / ye manuSya besudha haiM! kisase besudha haiM? 'khuda ke svarUpa se besudha haiM!' 'khuda kauna hai?' usakA bhAna hI nahIM hai ! kitanA bar3A Azcarya hai! Apako zarama nahIM AI, yaha bAta sunate hue? khuda apane Apa se hI anajAna hai / zarama Ae, aisA hai na? aura phira vApasa bAhara nikalatA hai, taba kitanA adhika rauba mAratA hai / are, tujhe svarUpa kA bhAna nahIM, to kyoM binA bAta ke uchalakUda karatA hai? khuda khuda se gupta raha hI nahIM sakatA na? Apa khuda apane Apa se gupta rahe hue ho, to yaha kaisI bAta huI? isalie, bhAna meM lAne ke lie maiM yaha vijJAna denA cAhatA huuN| 'yaha' jJAna nahIM hai, 'yaha' vijJAna hai| jJAna kriyAkArI nahIM hotA hai / yaha 'vijJAna' kriyAkArI hai / yaha jJAna lene ke bAda Apako kucha bhI nahIM karanA par3atA / jJAna hI karatA rahatA hai| vijJAna hamezA cetana hotA hai aura zAstrajJAna, vaha zabdajJAna hai| vaha kriyAkArI nahIM ho sakatA / bahuta huA to ve Apako sad-asad kA viveka krvaaegaa| sad-asad kA viveka arthAt kyA ki yaha 'saccA' hai yA yaha 'galata' hai, aisA bhAna karavAegA aura yaha to 'akrama vijJAna' hai|

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AptavANI- -6 kAraNa- kArya kI zrRMkhalA praznakartA: deha aura AtmA ke bIca saMbaMdha to hai na? 63 dAdAzrI : yaha jo deha hai, vaha AtmA kA pariNAma hai| jo-jo kaoNz2ez2a kie, unakA yaha iphekTa hai| koI Apako phUla car3hAe to Apa khuza ho jAte ho aura Apako gAlI de to Apa cir3ha jAte ho / usa cir3hane meM aura khuza hone meM bAhyadarzana kI qImata nahIM hai, aMtarabhAva se karma cArja hote haiN| usakA phira agale janma meM 'DiscArja' hotA hai, usa samaya vaha iphekTiva hai| ye mana-vacana-kAyA tInoM iphekTiva haiN| iphekTa bhugatate samaya dUsare naye kaoNz2ez2a utpanna hote haiM, jo agale janma meM vApasa iphekTa banate haiN| isa taraha kaoNz2ez2a enDa iphekTa, iphekTa enDa kaoNz2ez2a aisI zrRMkhalA niraMtara calatI hI rahatI hai / sirpha manuSyajanma meM hI kaoNz2ez2a baMda ho sakeM, aisA hai / dUsarI sabhI gatiyoM meM to sirpha iphekTa hI hai| yahA~ para kaoNz2ez2a aura iphekTa dono haiM I hama Apako jJAna dete haiM, taba kaoNz2ez2a baMda kara dete haiM, phira naye iphekTa nahIM hote haiN| praznakartA : iphekTiva rahanA, vaha acchA hai yA iphekTiva miTa jAe, vaha acchA hai? dAdAzrI : aise miTAe taba to ina sabhI logoM ko kisI cIz2a kI z2arUrata hI nahIM rhe| z2arA sI davAI cupar3I ki miTa jaaegaa| ThaMDa nahIM lagegI, tApa nahIM lagegA, isalie paMkhe, kapar3e kisI kI z2arUrata nahIM rhegii| praznakartA : isa janma-maraNa ke kAraNoM ke jo iphekTa haiM, ve nikala jAe~ to acchA yA raheM to acchA? dAdAzrI : iphekTa isa taraha kabhI bhI nahIM nikala skte| iphekTa arthAt prinnaam| pariNAma ko haTAyA nahIM jA sakatA, paraMtu kaoNz2ez2a ko baMda kiyA jA sakatA hai /

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64 AptavANI-6 praznakartA : vaha kArya-kAraNa bhAva kA hai? dAdAzrI : haaN| iphekTa to kArya hai aura kArya meM badalAva nahIM hotaa| yaha jo iphekTa hai, vaha DiscArja hai, aura bhItara cArja hotA rahatA hai| cArja baMda kiyA jA sakatA hai| DiscArja baMda nahIM kiyA jA sktaa| akartApada se abaMdha dazA praznakartA : kaoNz2ez2a baMda karane kI prakriyA kyA hai? dAdAzrI : 'maiM yaha karatA hU~' vaha bhAna TUTA, taba se kaoNz2ez2a baMda ho ge| phira naye kaoNz2ez2a utpanna nahIM hoMge aura purAnA mAla hai, vaha DiscArja hotA rhegaa| aba purAnA mAla kisa taraha DiscArja hotA hai, vaha Apako smjhaauuN| yahA~ se cAlIsa mIla kI dUrI para eka irigezana Tenka meM se bar3e pAipa ke dvArA yahA~ ahamadAbAda meM tAlAba bharane ke lie pAnI AtA ho, to vaha tAlAba bhara jAne ke bAda phira hama vahA~ phona kareM ki aba pAnI denA baMda kara do| taba ve loga turaMta baMda kara dete haiM, phira bhI kucha samaya taka yahA~ to pAnI AtA hI rahegA, kyoMki cAlIsa mIla kI pAipa meM pAnI aMdara hai to use Ane denA par3egA na? use kyA kahA jAtA hai? hama use DiscArja kahate haiN| usI prakAra hamase jJAna lie hue vyakti kA cArja baMda ho jAtA hai| maiM karatA hU~' vaha bhAna TUTa jAtA hai, 'vyavasthita' karatA hai aura 'zuddhAtmA' jJAtA-dRSTA rahatA hai| phira jo bhI ho, use 'dekhate' rahanA hai arthAt kartApada pUrA ur3a jAtA hai ki jisase cArja hotA thaa| phira jo DiscArja bacA, usakA nikAla karanA bAkI rahatA hai| prArabdha banA purAnA, 'vyavasthita' se jJAna samAyA praznakartA : Apa 'vyavasthita' zakti ko prabhuzakti kahate haiM yA prArabdha kahate haiM? dAdAzrI : nahIM, isa 'vyavasthita zakti' aura prArabdha kA kucha bhI lenA-denA nahIM hai| koI bhI vyakti yadi prArabdha ko mAne to loga Akara

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AptavANI-6 kyA kahate haiM, 'tU puruSArtha kara, bekAra hI prArabdha para mata baiThA rahanA / ' arthAt prArabdha paMgu avalaMbanavAlI cIz2a hai aura 'vyavasthita' to 'ekz2ekTa' jaisA hai vaisA hI hai| praznakartA: 'vyavasthita' arthAt pUrvanizcita? vaha pUrvanirdhArita hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, saMpUrNa pUrvanizcita hai ! paraMtu jaba taka Apako saMpUrNa jJAna nahIM hai, taba taka Apako bolanA nahIM cAhie ki 'vyavasthita' hI hai / ye mana-vacana-kAyA 'vyavasthita' ke adhIna hai / yaha hAtha U~cA karate haiM, aMdara socate haiM, aMdara preraNA hotI hai, vaha saba 'vyavasthita' ke adhIna hI hai| Apa 'zuddhAtmA' ho aura bAkI sabakucha usake adhIna ! isalie usameM hAtha mata ddaalnaa| 'kyA ho rahA hai', use dekhate rahanA hai ! praznakartA : to phira 'zuddhAtmA' utanA 'vyavasthita' ke baMdhana meM AyA yA nahIM? 65 dAdAzrI : nahIM, 'zuddhAtmA' baMdhana meM nahIM hai / 'zuddhAtmA' hone ke bAda jJAtA-dRSTA rahane kI hI z2arUrata hai| I maiM 'TaoNpa' para jAkara yaha bAta kara rahA hU~ ! jagat ke logoM ne jo bAta kI hai, usameM kucha logoM ne to pahAr3I kI talahaTI meM rahakara bAta kI hai, to kucha ne pA~ca phuTa Upara car3hakara bAta kI hai, to kucha ne dasa phuTa Upara car3hakara bAta kI hai aura maiM itanI U~cAI taka car3ha gayA hU~ ki, merA sira Upara ke 'TaoNpa' ko dekhatA hai aura nIce kA sArA hI bhAga dikhatA hai! jaba ki vItarAgoM ne to 'TaoNpa' para khar3e rahakara bAta kI hai! 'TaoNpa' para saMpUrNa satya hai ! yaha maiM jo kahatA hU~, usameM thor3I kucha khAmI A sakatI hai| kyoMki 'TaoNpa' para kA sabakucha nahIM dekha sakatA ! 'TaoNpa' kI to bAta hI alaga hai na! praznakartA: mahAvIra bhagavAna aisA kahate haiM ki karma kSaya aura kisI bhI vyakti ke dvArA nahIM ho sakatA, yAnI usameM 'jJAnI' bhI A jAte haiM ? dAdAzrI : nahIM, jJAnI to khuda apane karma khapAte haiM aura dUsaroM ke

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AptavANI-6 bhI khapA dete haiM ! isalie unhoMne jo bAta kI hai vaha bAta unake lie kI hai jo 'jJAnI' nahIM haiN| praznakartA : 'jJAnI' kA prakRti para prabhutva hotA hai? dAdAzrI : nahIM, nahIM hotA! paraMtu prakRti kA una para asara nahIM hotaa| khuda kI svataMtratA para prakRti kA asara nahIM hotA, paraMtu prakRti ke adhIna to mahAvIra bhagavAna ko bhI rahanA par3atA thA! praznakartA : ApakA jJAna lene ke bAvajUda bhI use samAdhi nahIM baratatI ho, usakI 'likhI huI sleTa' ho, lekina kyA aisA vyavasthita ke hAtha meM hai ki kisI dina sleTa pUrI taraha se sApha ho jAegI? dAdAzrI : isameM 'vyavasthita' zakti kucha nukasAna nahIM krtii| khuda kI ajAgRti nukasAna karatI hai ! yadi mere die hue vAkyoM para amala kare, to use niraMtara samAdhi rhe| khuda ko 'jAgRta' rahane kI z2arUrata hai| yaha 'jJAna' maiM detA hU~, taba Apako AtmA kI jAgRti meM lA detA huuN| AtmA kI saMpUrNa jAgRti ko kevalajJAna kahA gayA hai| jAgRti utpanna hotI hai, taba khuda ke sAre hI doSa dikhate haiM ! khuda ke roz2a ke pA~ca sau-pA~ca sau doSa 'khuda' dekha sakatA hai! jina doSoM ko dekhe, ve doSa avazya jAe~ge! apane yahA~ yaha 'vijJAna' hai| khuda ke doSa dikhane lageM, tabase usakI bhagavAna banane kI zurUAta huii| nahIM to khuda kA doSa kisI ko bhI dikhatA nhiiN| khuda jaja, khuda vakIla hai aura khuda hI abhiyukta hai to, khuda apane hI doSa kisa taraha dekha sakegA?

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[9] kaSAyoM kI zurUAta praznakartA : 'cArja' kaSAya aura 'DiscArja' kaSAya ke bAre meM mujhe jAnanA hai| dAdAzrI : abhI Apako jo kaSAya ho rahe haiM, Apa yadi kisI ke sAtha abhI gussA ho jAo, to vaha kaSAya 'DiscArja' hai| paraMtu yadi usake aMdara ApakA bhAva hai, to phira se 'cArja' kA bIja ddlegaa| praznakartA : koI bhI 'DiscArja' hotA hai to, usameM 'cArja' to hogA na? bhAvakarma Ae~ge na? dAdAzrI : nahIM, jaba 'DiscArja' hotA hai taba yadi 'cArja' nahIM karanA ho, to jisane hamAre pAsa jJAna liyA hai, use 'cArja' hotA hI nhiiN| phira karma cipakatA hI nhiiN| __ praznakartA : usakA koI TesTa hai ki yaha 'DiscArja' hai aura yaha 'cArja' hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, sabhI TesTa haiN| khuda ko saba patA calatA hai| yadi cArja hotA ho, to usake sAtha azAMti hotI hai| aMdara samAdhi TUTa jAtI hai| aura cArja nahIM hotA ho usameM to samAdhi jAtI hI nahIM! praznakartA : samAdhi ho phira bhI krodha AtA hai? dAdAzrI : krodha AtA hai vaha 'DiscArja' krodha hai, paraMtu aMdara krodha karane kA bhAva ho to usameM samAdhi nahIM rhtii| praznakartA : lobha kA bhI usI taraha hotA hai?

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68 AptavANI-6 dAdAzrI : hA~, krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha sabhI kA aisA hI hai| eka 'DiscArja' bhAva hai aura dUsarA 'cArja' bhAva hai| ApakA nAma kyA hai? praznakartA : cNduubhaaii| dAdAzrI : Apa 'caMdUbhAI ho', vaha nizcita kara liyA hai? praznakartA : sabhI ne kahA hai mujhse| dAdAzrI : yAnI nAmadhArI to maiM bhI kabUla karatA hU~, paraMtu vAstava meM 'Apa' kauna ho? jaba taka, 'maiM caMdUbhAI hU~', aisA Aropita bhAva hai taba taka karma cArja hote hI rheNge| praznakartA : rAga-dveSa, ve kaSAyabhAva haiM yA kucha aura haiM? dAdAzrI : ve kaSAya ke hI bhAva haiN| vaha dUsarA tatva nahIM hai| krodha aura mAna, ve dveSa hai aura mAyA va lobha, ve rAga hai| ye krodha-mAna-mAyAlobha, ye AtmA ke guNadharma nahIM hai, usI prakAra pudgala ke bhI guNadharma nahIM hai| praznakartA : to tIsarA kauna sA tatva hai? dAdAzrI : AtmA aura pudgala kI hAz2irI se utpanna honevAle guNa haiN| hAz2irI nahIM hogI to nahIM hoNge| praznakartA : kaSAya meM kaS + Aya hai, vaha kyA hai? dAdAzrI : AtmA ko pIr3ita kareM, ve sabhI kaSAya haiN| praznakartA : rAga se pIr3A nahIM hotI, phira bhI rAga ko kaSAya kyoM kahA hai? dAdAzrI : rAga se pIr3A nahIM hotI, paraMtu rAga, vaha kaSAya kA bIja hai| usameM se bar3A vRkSa utpanna hotA hai! dveSa vaha kaSAya kI zurUAta hai aura rAga - vaha bIja DAlA, tabhI se phira usakA pariNAma aaegaa| usakA pariNAma kyA AegA? kssaay|

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AptavANI-6 yAnI ki jaba pariNAma AegA, taba dveSa utpanna hogaa| abhI to rAga hai isalie mIThA lagatA hai| anukUlatA meM kaSAya hote haiM? praznakartA : anukUla saMyogoM meM kaSAyabhAva yA aura kucha nahIM AtA, aura pratikUla saMyogoM meM kaSAyabhAva bahuta A jAte haiM, to usake lie kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : aisA hai na ki sirpha pratikUlatA meM hI kaSAya hote haiM, aisA nahIM hai| anukUlatA meM bahuta kaSAya hote haiN| paraMtu anukUlatA ke kaSAya ThaMDe hote haiN| unheM rAgakaSAya kahate haiN| usameM lobha aura kapaTa donoM hote haiN| usameM vAstava meM aisI ThaMDaka lagatI hai ki dinoMdina gA~Tha bar3hatI hI jAtI hai| anukUla sukhadAyI lagatA hai| paraMtu sukhadAyI hI bahuta viSama hai| praznakartA : anukUlatA meM to patA hI nahIM calatA ki yaha kaSAya bhAva hai| dAdAzrI : unameM kaSAya kA patA nahIM calatA, paraMtu ve hI kaSAya mAra DAlate haiN| pratikUlatA ke kaSAya to bhole hote haiM becAre! usakA jagat ko turaMta hI patA cala jAtA hai| jaba ki anukUlatA ke kaSAya, lobha aura kapaTa to phalaphUlakara bar3e hote haiM ! pratikUlatA ke kaSAya mAna aura krodha haiN| ve donoM dveSa meM Ate haiN| anukUlatA ke kaSAya anaMta janmoM taka bhaTakA dete haiN| bahana, Apako samajha meM A gayA na? praznakartA : haaN| dAdAzrI : isalie donoM galata hai - anukUla aura prtikuul| ataH AtmA jAnane yogya hai| AtmA jAnane ke bAda anukUla-pratikUla sabakucha khatma ho jAtA hai! praznakartA : to usake lie kyA puruSArtha karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : puruSArtha karane se kucha bhI nahIM hogaa| yahA~ para A jaanaa| Apako AtmA kI pahacAna karavA deMge, phira Apako AnaMda-AnaMda ho jAegA aura ye sAre kaSAya miTa jAe~ge!

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70 AptavANI-6 jaba taka AtmA anubhava meM nahIM AtA, taba taka kucha nahIM ho sktaa| loga kahate haiM ki 'cInI mIThI hai, cInI mIThI hai' taba hama pUche ki 'kaisI mIThI hai?' taba ve kahate haiM ki 'maiM nahIM jAnatA! vaha to mu~ha meM rakheMge taba patA clegaa|' vaisA hI AtmA kA hai| ye saba AtmA kI bAteM karate haiM, paraMtu saba sirpha bAtoM meM hI hai| usameM kucha bhI phaladAyI nahIM hai| kaSAya jAte nahIM aura apane dina sudharate nhiiN| anaMta janmoM se aise bhaTaka rahe haiN| 'jJAnIpuruSa' ke darzana nahIM kie, sat sunA nahIM aura sat para zraddhA baiThI nhiiN| sat ko jAnanA to cAhie na eka bAra? kaSAya bahuta duHkhadAyI haiM na? aura ve jo sukha dete haiM ve kaSAya, ve kyA hai? praznakartA : vaha to Apane kahA taba patA calA ki ve mahAduHkhadAyI haiN| nahIM to anukUla meM kaSAya hote haiM, vaha samajha meM hI nahIM AtA thaa| dAdAzrI : 'jJAnIpuruSa' ke batAe binA manuSya ko khuda kI bhUla kA patA nahIM calatA, aisI anaMta bhUleM haiN| yaha eka hI bhUla nahIM hai| anaMta bhUloM ne gherA huA hai| praznakartA : bhUleM to paga-paga para hotI haiN| dAdAzrI : ye anukUla, ve kaSAya kahalAte haiM, aisA Apa acchI taraha samajha gae ho na? praznakartA : haaN| dAdAzrI : ye jo niraMtara gAravarasa (saMsArI sukha kI ThaMDaka meM par3e rahane kI icchA) meM rakhatA hai, khUba ThaMDaka lagatI hai, khUba maz2A AtA hai, ye hI kaSAya haiM, jo bhaTakAnevAle haiN| kaSAyoM kA AdhAra praznakartA : ye kaSAya kisa AdhAra para haiM?

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AptavANI- -6 71 dAdAzrI : ajJAna ke AdhAra para haiN| ajJAnatA hI ina sabakA besamenTa (AdhAra) hai / ajJAnatA gaI ki sArA hala A gyaa| ajJAnatA hamAre samajhAne se calI jAtI hai| ajJAna jAe to kaSAya kama hone lagate haiM, yAnI rAga-dveSa kama hone lagate haiM / phira prakRti khAlI hone lagatI hai / hai na AsAna rAstA ? 'akrama' kI balihArI praznakartA : dAdA, kiMcitmAtra kucha bhI kie binA yaha prApta ho jAnA, vaha samajha meM nahIM AtA / dAdAzrI : 'akrama vijJAna' hamezA jJAnI kI kRpA se prApta hotA hai, aura 'kramika' meM bhI kRpA to hai hI, paraMtu usameM guru kaheM, vaisA karate rahanA par3atA hai|'akrm' meM kartApada nahIM hotA / yahA~ to jJAna hI, sIdhA - DAyarekTa jnyaan| isalie bahuta sarala ho jAtA hai ! isalie ise 'liphTamArga' kahA hai liphTamArga arthAt mehanata vagairaha kucha bhI nahIM karanA hai| AjJA meM rahanA hai usase nayA cArja nahIM hogA / phira visarjana hotA hI rahegA / jaise bhAva se sarjana huA thA, vaise bhAva se visarjana hotA rahegA / I anubhava-lakSa-pratIti khuda anAdi kAla se vibhrama meM par3A huA hai| AtmA hai svabhAva meM, paraMtu vibhAva kI vibhramatA ho gaI / vaha suSupta avasthA kahalAtI hai| vaha jaga jAe, taba usakA lakSya baiThatA hai hameM / vaha jJAna se jagatA hai / 'jJAnIpuruSa' jJAna sahita bulavAte haiM, isalie AtmA jaga jAtA hai / phira lakSya nahIM jaataa| lakSya baiThA taba anubhava, lakSya aura pratIti rahatI hai / isa lakSya ke sAtha pratIti rahatI hI hai / aba anubhava bar3hate jAe~ge / pUrNa anubhava ko kevalajJAna kahA hai| sAmIpyabhAva se mukti ajJAnatA se kaSAya khar3e hote haiN| jJAna se kaSAya nahIM hote /

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AptavANI-6 svarUpajJAna hone ke bAda 'Apa' ugra ho jAo, to ve pichale kaSAya haiM ki jo aba DiscArja ho rahe haiM / DiscArja hote haiM, use bhagavAna ne cAritra mohanIya kahA hai 1 72 'apanA' 'par3osI' cetanabhAva sahita hai / 'cArja' ho cukA hai, isalie usake sabhI bhAva, buddhi ke sabhI bhAva, apamAna kare taba mana uchalatA hai, ve saba par3osI ke bhAva haiM / mana-buddhi-citta- ahaMkAra sabhI jaba uchalakUda macAe~ to 'Apa' caMdUbhAI ko dhIre se kaha do, 'uchalanA mata bhAI, aba zAMti rkhnaa|' yAnI ki Apako par3osI kI taraha par3osIdharma nibhAnA hai| kisI samaya bahuta uttejita ho jAe to Apa darpaNa ke sAmane dekhnaa| to isa taraha darpaNa meM caMdUbhAI dikheMge na ! phira caMdUbhAI para aise hAtha phernaa| yahA~ para Apa pheroge taba vahA~ para darpaNa meM bhI phiregA / aisA dikhegA na? phira Apako caMdUbhAI se kahanA hai ki, " zAMti rakho / 'hama' baiThe haiN| aba Apako kyA bhaya hai?" isa taraha abhyAsa karo / darpaNa ke sAmane baiThakara Apa alaga aura caMdUbhAI alg| donoM alaga hI haiN| sAmipyabhAva ke kAraNa ekatA huI hai| dUsarA kucha hai nhiiN| zurUAta se alaga hI haiN| pUrI 'roMga bilIfa' hI baiTha cukI hai / 'jJAnIpuruSa' 'rAiTa bilIfa' de deM, to hala A jAtA hai| dRSTiphera hI hai / mAtra dRSTi kI bhUla hai /

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[10] viSayoM meM sukhabuddhi kise? dAdAzrI : ApakI kitanI phAileM haiM? praznakartA : merI to eka hI phAila hai, vedanIya kii| dAdAzrI : aba usa vedanIya se yadi aisA kaho ki, 'yahA~ mata aanaa|' taba jo vedanIya ATha phuTa U~cI thI, vaha assI phuTa U~cI hokara aaegii| aura yadi hama kaheM ki tuma jaldI Ao to ATha phuTa kI hogI to do phuTa kI dikhegI, aura jaba vedanIya kA kAla pUrA ho jAegA to vaha khar3I nahIM rhegii| taba phira jo hamezA khar3I nahIM rahegI vaha to hamArI 'gesTa' khlaaegii| gesTa ke sAtha to hameM acchA baratAva karanA cAhie na ? saMyama rakhanA caahie| Apako kyA lagatA hai? praznakartA : lagatA to hai dAdA, paraMtu sahana nahIM hotA / dAdAzrI : yaha jo sahana nahIM hotA hai, vaha sAikolojikala iphekTa hai| taba 'dAdA-dAdA' aise nAma lo aura agara aisA kahoge ki 'mujhe sahanazakti dIjie' to vaisI zaktiyA~ utpanna ho jAe~gI / praznakartA : jaba taka pA~ca indriyoM ke viSayoM meM sukhabuddhi hai, taba taka usa taraha se nikAla nahIM ho sakatA na? dAdAzrI : vaha sukhabuddhi AtmA meM nahIM hai / jo AtmA maiMne Apako diyA hai, usameM sukhabuddhi z2arA sI bhI nahIM hai| usane yaha sukha kabhI cakhA hI nahIM hai| yaha jo sukhabuddhi hai, vaha to ahaMkAra meM hai| sukhabuddhi rahe, usameM harja nahIM hai| sukhabuddhi AtmA kI cIz2a nahIM

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AptavANI-6 hai, vaha pudgala kI cIz2a hai / koI bhI cIz2a Apako dI jAe, taba usameM Apako sukhabuddhi utpanna hotI hai / phira vahI vastu adhika dI jAe, taba usameM du:khabuddhi bhI utpanna ho jAtI hai, aisA Apa jAnate ho yA nahIM? I praznakartA : hA~, Uba jAte haiM phira / 74 I dAdAzrI : isalie vaha pudgala hai, pUraNa- galanavAlI cIz2a hai| yAnI vaha vaha cIz2a hamezA ke lie nahIM hai / TemparerI eDajasTamenTa hai / sukhabuddhi arthAt yaha Ama acchA ho aura use phira se mA~geM, to usase aisA nahIM mAnA jA sakatA ki usameM sukhabuddhi hai / vaha to deha kA AkarSaNa hai| praznakartA : deha kA aura jIbha kA AkarSaNa bahuta rahA karatA hai| dAdAzrI : vaha jo AkarSaNa rahA karatA hai, usameM sirpha jAgRti rakhanI hai / hamane Apako jo vAkya diyA hai na ki 'mana-vacana-kAyA kI tamAma saMgI kriyAoM se maiM bilkula asaMga hI huuN|' vaha jAgRti rahanI cAhie, aura vAstava meM ekz2ekTalI aisA hI hai / vaha saba pUraNa - galana hai / Apa yaha jAgRti rakho to Apako karma kA baMdhana nahIM rhegaa| praznakartA : vahI nahIM raha sake, to vaha hamAre cAritra kA doSa hai aisA mAneM? dAdAzrI : vaisA 'kramika mArga' meM hotA hai / praznakartA: paraMtu usa cAritramoha ke kAraNa DhIlApana rahatA hai| dAdAzrI : 'kramika mArga' meM vaha DhIlApana kahalAtA hai| usake lie Apako upAya karanA pdd'egaa| isameM (akrama meM) Apa DhIlApana nahIM kaha skte| isameM Apako jAgRti hI rakhanI hai / hamane jo AtmA diyA hai vaha jAgRti hI hai| praznakartA : jAgRti nahIM ho, taba rAga hotA hai na? dAdAzrI : nahIM aisA nahIM hai| aba Apako rAga hotA hI nahIM hai| yaha jo hotA hai, vaha AkarSaNa hai /

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75 praznakartA : yaha hotA hai, vaha AkarSaNa hai, to vaha kamaz2orI nahIM mAnI jAegI? AptavANI-6 dAdAzrI : nahIM, kamaz2orI nahIM mAnI jaaegii| usakA aura AtmA kA koI lenA-denA nahIM hai / sirpha Apako khuda kA sukha nahIM Ane degaa| isalie eka-do janma adhika karavAegA, usakA upAya bhI hai| apane yahA~ ye saba loga jo 'sAmAyika' karate haiM, usa sAmAyika meM usa viSaya ko rakhakara dhyAna karate haiM to vaha viSaya vilaya hotA jAtA hai, khatma ho jAtA hai| jo-jo Apako vilaya kara denA ho, use yahA~ para vilaya kiyA jA sakatA hai| praznakartA : aisA kucha ho, taba vaha kAma kA hai na ! dAdAzrI : hai| yahA~ sabakucha hI hai / yahA~ Apako subakucha hI dikhaaeNge| Apako kisI jagaha para jIbha kA svAda bAdhaka ho, to vahI viSaya 'sAmAyika' meM rkho| aura jaisA batAe~ usa anusAra use dekhate rho| sirpha dekhane se hI ve saba gA~TheM vilaya ho jaaeNgii| vicAra Ae binA kabhI bhI AkarSaNa nahIM hotA / AkarSaNa honevAlA ho, taba bhItara vicAra Ate haiM / vicAra mana meM se Ate haiM, aura mana gA~ThoM kA banA huA hai / jisake vicAra adhika Ae~, vaha gA~Tha bar3I hotI hai| saMsAra calAne ke lie AtmA akartA bhItara jo bhAva hote haiM, ve bhAvaka karavAte haiM / bhItara bhAvaka, krodhaka, lobhaka, mAnaka haiN| ye sabhI baiThe haiM, ve bhAva karavAte haiM / usameM yadi bhAvya mila jAe, bhAvya arthAt AtmA (pratiSThita) yadi tanmayAkAra ho jAe to nayA citraNa hotA hai / yaha jo saMsAra hai, vaha AtmA kI hAz2irI se calatA hai / yadi AtmA usameM z2arA sA bhI tanmayAkAra nahIM hogA, phira bhI vaha cala sakatA hai / isalie hamane yaha 'vyavasthita' kI khoja kI hai / 'kramika' meM to aisA

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76 AptavANI-6 samajhate haiM ki AtmA ke calAe binA calegA hI nhiiN| jaba ki hamane Apako 'vijJAna' diyA hai ki 'vyavasthita' saba calA legaa| praznakartA : mujhe dveSa huA, to usameM AtmA tanmayAkAra huA yA nahIM? vaha dveSa kisane kiyA? maiMne kiyA? dAdAzrI : AtmA tanmayAkAra ho jAe taba kyA hotA hai? rAga aura dveSa donoM hote haiN| aba rAga-dveSa hue haiM, vaha patA kaise calegA? kahate haiM ki dveSa ho taba bhItara ciMtA hotI hai, jI jalatA hai| isa jJAna ke bAda AtmA tanmayAkAra nahIM hotA hai, isalie caina kI sthiti rahatI hai, nirAkulatA rahatI hai| nirAkulatA arthAt siddha bhagavAna kA 1/8 guNa utpanna huA kahalAtA hai| jagat to AkulatA aura vyAkulatA meM hI rahatA hai, chaTapaTAhaTa to rahatI hI hai, isalie hI to jJAnI ko DhU~r3hate haiN| __ loga kyA samajhate haiM ki, AtmA bhAva karatA hai| vAstava meM to AtmA bhAva nahIM krtaa| bhAvaka bhAva karate haiN| unheM yadi saccA mAna liyA to tanmayAkAra ho gyaa| bhAva huA use saccA mAnanA, vahI tanmayAkAra honA kahalAtA hai| usase bIja Dalate haiN| praznakartA : bhAvaka arthAt purAne karma? dAdAzrI : bhAvaka yAnI mana kI gaaNttheN| kisI ko mAna kI gA~Tha, kisI ko lobha kI gA~Tha, to kisI ko krodha kI gA~Tha, to kisI ko viSaya kI gaaNtth| ye gA~The hI parezAna karatI haiN| AtmA prApta hone ke bAda phira bhAva meM bhAvya tanmayAkAra nahIM hote haiM, isalie nirAkulatA rahatI hai| nirAkula AnaMda pUre jagat meM jo AnaMda hai, vaha AkulatA-vyAkulatAvAlA AnaMda hai, aura 'jJAnI' ho jAne ke bAda nirAkula AnaMda utpanna hotA hai| 'jJAnIpuruSa' ke pAsa nirAkula AnaMda utpanna hotA hai| pudgala kA kucha lenA-denA nahIM hai, to phira yaha sukha utpanna kahA~ se huA? taba kahate haiM ki vaha svAbhAvika sukha, sahaja sukha utpanna huA, vahI AtmA kA sukha

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AptavANI-6 hai aura itanA hI jise phiTa ho gayA na, vaha sahajasukha ke svapada meM rahegA / vaha phira dhIre-dhIre paripUrNa hogA ! 77 AnaMda do prakAra ke haiM : eka, hameM biz2anesa meM khUba rupaye mila jAe~, acchA saudA ho jAe, usa ghar3I AnaMda hotA hai / paraMtu vaha AkulatAvyAkulatAvAlA AnaMda, mUrcchita AnaMda kahalAtA hai / beTe kI zAdI kare, beTI kI zAdI kare, usa ghar3I AnaMda hotA hai, vaha bhI AkulatA - vyAkulatAvAlA AnaMda, mUrcchita AnaMda kahalAtA hai, aura jaba nirAkula AnaMda ho, taba samajhanA ki AtmA prApta huA / praznakartA : nirAkula AnaMda kise kahate haiM? dAdAzrI : yahA~ satsaMga meM jo sArA AnaMda hotA hai, vaha nirAkula AnaMda hai| yahA~ para AkulatA - vyAkulatA nahIM rahatI / AkulatA-vyAkulatAvAle AnaMda meM kyA hotA hai ki aMdara jhaMjhaTa calatA rahatA hai| yahA~ jhaMjhaTa baMda rahatA hai aura jagat vismRta rahA karatA hai| abhI kisI vastu ko lekara AnaMda Ae to hama samajha jAe~ge ki yaha paudgalika AnaMda hai| aura yaha to sahaja sukha ! arthAt nirAkula AnaMda / AkulatA-vyAkulatA nahIM / jaise ki sthira ho gae hoM, aisA hameM lagatA hai| thor3A bhI unmAda nahIM rahatA / 1 jinake paricaya meM raheM, unhIM jaise hama bana jAte haiN| praznakartA : Apane jo diyA hai usase, isa kAla meM Apa jisa sthiti taka pahu~ce haiM, usa sthiti taka hama pahu~ca sakate haiM kyA? dAdAzrI : hameM aura kAma hI kyA hai? Apako nirAkulatA prApta huI hai na? praznakartA : haaN| dAdAzrI : nirAkulatA, vaha siddha bhagavAna kA 1/8 guNa hai / 1/8 siddha ho ge| phira caudaha Ane bAkI rahA / vaha bAda meM ho jaaegaa| siddha ho cuke na? muhara laga gaI na? phira kyA bhaya? abhI koI Upara se Ae

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AptavANI-6 aura kahe ki 'calo sAhaba mokSa meM / ' to maiM kyA kahU~gA, 'kyoM jaldI hai?' taba vaha kahe ki 'Apake prati hameM lAgaNI ( bhAvukatAvAlA prema, lagAva) ho rahI hai!' taba maiM kahU~ ki, ' mujha para lAgaNI mata rakhanA, bhAI ! maiM lAgaNI rakhane jaisA puruSa nahIM hU~ / merA mokSa mere pAsa hai ! nirAkulatA utpanna ho jAe, phira kyA bAkI rhaa| nahIM to ciMtA - varIz2a bhaTakAte hI rahate haiM, igoiz2ama bhaTakAtA hI rahatA hai| ahaMkAra ke pratispaMdana - vyavahAra meM 78 ahaMkAra aMdhA banA detA hai / jitanA ahaMkAra adhika utanA aMdhApana adhika / praznakartA : kArya karane ke lie to ahaMkAra kI z2arUrata par3egI hI na? dAdAzrI : nahIM, vaha nirjIva ahaMkAra alaga hai| use ahaMkAra kaheMge hI nahIM na? use loga bhI ahaMkArI nahIM khte| praznakartA: to kauna sA ahaMkAra nukasAnadeha hai? dAdAzrI : yaha Apa sabhI jAnate ho ki 'maiM jJAnI hU~', paraMtu bAhara vyavahAra meM loga thor3e hI jAnate haiM ki 'maiM jJAnI huuN'| phira bhI mujhameM loga eka bhI aisI cIz2a nahIM dekhate ki jisase loga mujhe ahaMkArI kheN| jaba ki Apako vaisA kaheMge / isa ahaMkAra ne hI saba barbAda kiyA hai| praznakartA: paraMtu isI ahaMkAra se sArA vyavahAra calatA hai na ? dAdAzrI : ahaMkAra se vyavahAra nahIM calatA / ahaMkAra hada se bAhara nahIM jAnA cAhie, nahIM to vaha nukasAna karatA hai / praznakartA : logoM para hamAre purAne ahaMkAra ke pratispaMdana par3a cuke haiM, isalie hameM ahaMkArI hI dekhate haiM / dAdAzrI : Apake purAne ahaMkAra ke pratispaMdana jaba taka khatma nahIM ho jAe~ge, taba taka Apako iMtaz2Ara karanA par3egA /

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AptavANI-6 79 eka acche iz2z2atadAra ghara kA lar3akA thA, lekina use corI kI burI Adata par3a cukI thii| usane corI karanA baMda kara diyaa| phira mere pAsa Akara usane kahA, 'dAdA, abhI taka bhI loga mujhe cora kahate haiN|' taba maiMne use kahA, 'tU dasa varSa se corI kara rahA thA, phira bhI logoM ne tujhe pahacAnA nhiiN| taba taka loga tujhe sAhUkAra kahate the| aba tU cora nahIM hai| sAhUkAra ho jAegA, phira bhI dasa varSoM taka cora kA purAnA pratispaMdana AtA rhegaa| isalie tU dasa varSoM taka sahana krnaa| paraMtu aba tU phira se corI mata karane lgnaa| kyoMki mana meM aisA lagegA ki, 'vaise bhI loga mujhe cora kahate hI haiM, isalie corI hI karo na!' aisA mata krnaa| aMdhera cale aisA nahIM hai| hameM jJAna huA usase pahale ke hamAre pratispaMdana bhI hamAre sage-saMbaMdhiyoM ko abhI taka mahasUsa hote haiM! praznakartA : to ve pratispaMdana jaldI se kaise jAe~ge? dAdAzrI : dhIre-dhIre jAne hI lage haiN| yahA~ se gAr3I nikalI, use loga kyA kahate haiM? ki gAr3I muMbaI gii| praznakartA : eka 'pesenjara' aura eka 'rAjadhAnI eksapresa' jAtI hai| hameM to 'rAjadhAnI eksapresa' caahie| dAdAzrI : vaha to jaldabAz2IvAlA svabhAva hai| Apa khicar3I kaccI rakhoge to sabhI ko kaccA khAnA pdd'egaa| isalie aisA bhojana ho vahA~ hameM 'dhIrajalAla' ko (!) bulAnA cAhie (dhIraja rakhanA)! pariNAma parasattA meM praznakartA : galata karanevAle ko sabhI khayAla rahatA hai, phira bhI galata kyoM karatA hai? dAdAzrI : galata hotA hai, vaha to para-pariNAma hai| hama yaha 'baoNla' yahA~ se DAleM, phira hama use kaheM ki aba tU yahA~ se dUra mata jAnA, jahA~ para DAlA vahIM para par3I rhnaa| aisA hotA hai kyA? nahIM hotaa| DAlane ke bAda 'baoNla' para-pariNAma meM jAte haiN| isalie jisa taraha se kie hoMge, yAnI

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AptavANI-6 ki tIna phuTa Upara se DAlA hogA to pariNAma do phuTa ke aaeNge| dasa phuTa ke pariNAma sAta phuTa Ae~ge, paraMtu ye pariNAma apane Apa baMda ho hI jAe~ge, hama yadi phira se usameM hAtha nahIM DAleM to! praznakartA : usa samaya aisA kahA jA sakatA hai ki parApUrva se galata karatA AyA hai, isalie galata kI ora AkarSita hotA hai? / dAdAzrI : aisA kucha nahIM hai| yaha saba 'vyavasthita' ke tAbe meM hai| isalie usameM usakA doSa nahIM hai| sirpha use itanA samajha lenA cAhie ki, 'maiM kauna huuN|' utanA samajha liyA taba se hI chuTakAre kI sA~sa milatI hai| samajhatA nahIM hai, isalie yaha saba baMdhana hotA rahatA hai| ___ yaha apanA 'sAinsa' hai| choTA sA 'sAinsa' hai| yadi 'jJAnIpuruSa' mila jAe~ aura 'jJAna' mila jAe to bAta choTI sI hai aura 'jJAnIpuruSa' nahIM milate to kucha kAma nahIM hogaa| yadi 'jJAnIpuruSa' nahIM mileM to (acche karma) Urdhvagati karavAte haiM, puNya baMdhavAte haiM, paraMtu chuTakArA nahIM hotaa|

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[11] mAnava svabhAva meM vikAra heya, Atma svabhAva meM vikAra jJeya! praznakartA : svarUpa kA jJAna prApta karane ke bAda mana meM vikAra rahate haiM, usakA kyA kAraNa hai? dAdAzrI : mana ke vikAra to jJeya haiN| yAnI ki ve dekhane kI cIz2a hai| pahale hama mAnavasvabhAva meM the| usameM yaha acchA aura yaha burA, ye acche vicAra aura ye bure vicAra, aisA thaa| aba AtmasvabhAva meM A gae isalie sabhI vicAra eka jaise! vicAra mAtra jJeya hai aura 'hama' jJAtA haiN| jJeya-jJAtA kA saMbaMdha hai| phira kahA~ rahI daqhala, vaha kaho? praznakartA : isa taraha AtmadRSTi se dekhane ke lie kucha puruSArtha karanA par3atA hai yA apane Apa hI dikhatA hai? dAdAzrI : apane Apa hI dikhatA hai! hamane jo jJAna diyA hai usase rileTiva aura riyala ko dekho, sabhI rileTiva vinAzI cIjeM haiM aura riyala sabhI avinAzI haiN| ye saba jJeya jo dikhate haiM, ve saba vinAzI jJeya haiN| sthUla saMyoga, sUkSma saMyoga, ve vinAzI saMyoga haiN| yaha saba yahA~ satsaMga meM Akara pUcha lenA cAhie aura spaSTIkaraNa kara lenA cAhie, to haraeka bAta kA lakSya rahegA aura lakSya rahegA, taba phira kucha bhI karanA nahIM pdd'egaa| svarUpa kA jJAna prApta hone ke bAda kucha bhI nahIM karanA pdd'taa| jJAna jJAna meM hI rahatA hai| AtmA jJAyaka svabhAva meM hI rahatA hai| jJAyaka arthAt jAnate hI rahane ke svabhAva meM rhnaa| AtmA meM aura koI svabhAva hI utpanna nahIM hotaa|

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82 AptavANI-6 praznakartA : jAnanA arthAt mana ko jAnanA yA zarIra ke saMvedanoM ko jAnanA ? dAdAzrI : sabakucha jAnanA / mana ke vicAra Ae~ ve bhI jAnane haiM, buddhi kyA-kyA karatI hai vaha bhI jAnanA hai, aura ahaMkAra kyA karatA hai vaha bhI jAnanA hai / jitane - jitane saMyoga haiM, ve sabhI jAnane haiN| saMyogoM kA patA calatA hai yA nahIM calatA? mana meM vicAra Ate haiM aura jAte haiM, ve saMyoga kahalAte haiM / koI bhI vastu Ae aura jAe, vaha saMyoga kahalAtI hai / aura jo AtA nahIM aura jAtA nahIM, jo dekhanevAlA hai, vaha hamezA rahatA hai, vaha jJAyaka hai / vaha jJAyaka ina sabhI Ane-jAnevAle saMyogoM ko dekhatA rahatA hai ki ye phalAne bhAI Ae aura ye ge| isa taraha yaha dekhatA hI rahatA hai, vaha AtmA kA svabhAva hai, aura phira saMyoga viyogI svabhAva ke haiM / isalie hama unheM kaheM ki yahA~ baiThe raho, phira bhI ve cale hI jAe~ge ! ApameM mAnavasvabhAva thA, taba taka mana meM jo vicAra Ate the, unheM aisA mAnakara unameM tanmayAkAra rahate the ki 'vicAra mujhe A rahe haiN'| aba Apako tanmayatA nahIM rahI / vaha mukta rahatA hai, kyoMki mAnavasvabhAva paudgalika svabhAva hai aura aba jo hai, yaha AtmasvabhAva hai| AtmasvabhAva avinAzI svabhAva hai aura mAnavasvabhAva to vinAzI svabhAva hai| vaha to AtA hai aura jAtA hai / use dekhate rahanA hai / praznakartA: dAdA, saMyoga hI nahIM hoM to ? dAdAzrI : saMyoga nahIM hoMge to AtmA bhI nahIM hogA / praznakartA : kyA vahA~ AtmA nahIM hotA? dAdAzrI : nahIM, saMyoga nahIM hoMge to, AtmA dekhegA kyA? saMyogoM kI hastI nahIM hogI to AtmA kI bhI hastI nahIM hogii| praznakartA : to usakA artha aisA huA ki jar3a aura cetana donoM sAtha meM hI rahate haiM / usake binA to hogA hI nahIM na?

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AptavANI-6 83 dAdAzrI : pUrA jagat aise kA aisA hI rahanevAlA hai| yaha jagat kabhI bhI jJeya rahita hogA hI nahIM! jJAtA bhI raheMge aura jJeya bhI rheNge| praznakartA : siddhakSetra meM jAe, to vahA~ saMyoga nahIM haiM na? dAdAzrI : nahIM, lekina vahA~ para rahakara yahA~ ke sabhI saMyoga unheM dikhate haiN| unheM dekhanA kyA hai? yahI dekhanA hai| yaha maiMne hAtha U~cA kiyA, to vahA~ para unheM U~cA kiyA huA hAtha dikha jAtA hai| praznakartA : unakA jJAtA-dRSTA guNa to hamezA hI rahatA hai na? dAdAzrI : hA~, vahI hamezA rahatA hai, AtmA kA svarUpa hai| aura jJAtA-dRSTA rahe, vahIM para AnaMda rahatA hai, nahIM to AnaMda nahIM rhtaa| praznakartA : jJAtA-dRSTA nahIM rahe to kyA AnaMda nahIM rahatA? dAdAzrI : nahIM rhtaa| jJAtA-dRSTA kA phala AnaMda hai| eka ora jJAtA-dRSTA rahanA aura dUsarI ora AnaMda utpanna honA, aisA hai| jaise sinemA meM gayA huA vyakti sinemA kA paradA nahIM uThe, taba taka becaina rahatA hai, sITiyA~ bajAtA hai, aisA vaha kisalie karatA hai? kyoMki use da:kha hotA hai ki jo dekhane AyA hai, vaha use dekhane ko nahIM mila rahA hai| jJeya ko nahIM dekhe, taba taka use sukha utpanna nahIM hotaa| usI prakAra AtmA jJeya ko dekhe aura jAne taba bhItara paramAnaMda utpanna hotA hai| aba rAta ko akelA kamare meM so gayA ho to vahA~ kyA dekhegA? vahA~ kauna-se phoTo dekhane haiM? to vahA~ to aMdara kA sabakucha dikhatA hai| aMta meM nIMda bhI dikhatI hai, svapna bhI dikhatA hai| praznakartA : paraMtu siddhakSetra meM svapna nahIM dikhatA na? dAdAzrI : nahIM, vahA~ svapna nahIM hotaa| svapna to yaha deha hai, isalie hai| aura abhI yaha jo hai, vaha bhI khulI A~khoM kA svapna hai| jJAniyoM ko nIMda nahIM hotii| unakA to dekhanA calatA hI rahatA hai| unheM dUsare pradezoM meM dekhane ko milatA hai, bAkI siddhakSetra meM to deha hI nahIM hotii| isa deha kA bhI bhAra hai, usase duHkha hai| jJAniyoM ko deha kA bahuta vajana mahasUsa hotA hai|

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84 AptavANI-6 praznakartA : yaha deha hai, vaha karma kA pariNAma hI hai na? dAdAzrI : hA~, vaha karma kA hI pariNAma hai n| praznakartA : karma kI saMpUrNa nirjarA honI cAhie na? dAdAzrI : karma kI saMpUrNa nirjarA ho jAe, taba vaha jAtA hai| zuddha citta ho jAe taba, karma kI nirjarA ho gaI, aisA kahA jaaegaa| praznakartA : avyavahAra rAzi meM jJAtApana aura saMyoga hote haiM kyA? dAdAzrI : usameM to bore meM DAlA huA ho, vaisA rahatA hai! vahA~ to apAra du:kha hotA hai| praznakartA : usameM astitva kA bhAna hotA hai kyA? dAdAzrI : astitva kA bhAna hai, isalie duHkha anubhava karatA hai| praznakartA : narkagati meM kyA hotA hai? dAdAzrI : narkagati meM bhI pA~ca indriyoM ke du:kha hote haiN| yadi sAtavIM narka ke duHkha sune to manuSya mara jAe! vahA~ to bhayaMkara du:kha hote haiM! avyavahAra rAzi ke jIvoM ko itane bhayaMkara duHkha nahIM hote| unheM ghuTana rahatI hai| buddhi kA zrRMgAra kareM jJAnI apane loga buddhi ko 'jJAna' kahate haiM, paraMtu buddhi inaDAyarekTa prakAza hai, jaba ki 'jJAna' AtmA kA DAyarekTa prakAza hai| praznakartA : buddhi kahA~ para pUrI hotI hai aura prajJA kahA~ se zurU hotI hai? dAdAzrI : buddhi pUrI hone se pahale prajJA kI zurUAta ho jAtI hai| 'jJAnIpuruSa' mila jAe~ aura ve AtmA prApta karavAe~, taba prajJA kI zurUAta ho jAtI hai| vaha prajJA hI mokSa meM le jAtI hai| prajJA niraMtara bhItara cetAvanI detI rahatI hai aura buddhi bhItara daqhala karatI rahatI hai|

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AptavANI-6 praznakartA : paraMtu buddhi kA kucha paoNz2iTiva phaMkzana hotA hogA na? dAdAzrI : buddhi kA paoNz2iTiva phaMkzana yaha hai ki 'jJAnIpuruSa' se yadi buddhi samyak karavAI ho, to vaha clegii| khuda kI samajha se cale, vaha viparIta buddhi / vaha vyabhicAriNI buddhi kahalAtI hai| kRSNa bhagavAna ne avyabhicAriNI buddhi use kahA hai ki jisa buddhi para 'jJAnIpuruSa' ke pAsa se gilaTa car3havA lI ho, vh| jitane samaya taka hamAre pAsa baiThoge, utanA samaya ApakI buddhi samyak hotI rhegii| praznakartA : lekina phira jaba hama cale jAe~ge, taba phira kyA hogA? dAdAzrI : hamAre pAsa baiTho aura jitanI buddhi gilaTa ho gaI, vaha phira samyak ho jAtI hai| vaha buddhi phira Apako parezAna nahIM karatI, aura ApakI jitanI buddhi viparIta hai, vaha Apako parezAna kregii| praznakartA : hamArI saMpUrNa buddhi samyak buddhi rahe, viparIta buddhi nahIM rahe, usake lie hameM kyA puruSArtha karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : yahA~ para Akara Apako samyak karavA denI hai| Apase vaha nahIM ho skegii| praznakartA : yahA~ Akara sirpha baiThane se hI buddhi samyak ho jAtI hai? dAdAzrI : yahA~ prazna pUchakara, bAtacIta karake, samAdhAna pAkara buddhi samyak hotI jAtI hai| phira ApameM buddhi rahegI hI nhiiN| buddhi kA abhAva hone meM to bahuta TAima lagegA, lekina pahale buddhi samyak to hotI jaae| praznakartA : hamAre pAsa samyak buddhi hai, viparIta buddhi hai, aura prajJA bhI hai| to ina tInoM kA kArya eka sAtha hI cala rahA hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, saba eka sAtha hI cala rahA hai| prajJA mokSa meM le jAne ke lie bhItara sAvadhAna karatI rahatI hai, cetAvanI detI hI rahatI hai! aura mokSa meM se rokane ke lie ajJA hai| ajJA mokSa meM kabhI bhI nahIM jAne detii| ajJA, vaha buddhi kA pradarzana hai| buddhi to saMsAra meM phAyadA-nukasAna hI dikhAtI hai, dvaMdva hI dikhAtI hai|

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86 AptavANI-6 praznakartA : dvaMdva ke aMdara kA pha~sAva aura gharSaNa hai, vaha to lagAtAra jiMdagI kA eka hissA hI hai| jahA~-tahA~ dvaMdva Akara khar3A hI rahatA hai| dAdAzrI : isa dvaMdva meM hI jagat pha~sA huA hai na! aura 'jJAnI' dvaMdvAtIta hote haiN| ve phAyade ko phAyadA samajhate haiM aura nukasAna ko nukasAna samajhate haiN| paraMtu unheM nukasAna nukasAna ke rUpa meM asara nahIM karatA aura phAyadA phAyade ke rUpa meM asara nahIM krtaa| phAyade-nukasAna kisameM se nikalate haiM? 'mere' meM se gae yA bAhara se gae? vaha sabakucha khuda jAnate haiN| buddhi kI samApti praznakartA : buddhi abhI bhI daqhala karatI hai, to kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : buddhi isa tarapha daqhala kare to Apa vahA~ se dRSTi phera lenaa| Apako rAste meM koI nApasaMda vyakti mile to Apa aise mu~ha phera lete haiM yA nahIM? aise hI jo apane meM daqhala karatA hai, usase dRSTi phera lenA! daqhala kauna karatA hai? buddhi ! buddhi kA svabhAva kyA hai ki saMsAra se bAhara nikalane hI nahIM detii| praznakartA : buddhi samApta kaba hogI? dAdAzrI : yadi Apa usakI ora bahuta samaya taka nahIM dekhoge, dRSTi pherakara rakhoge, taba phira vaha samajha jaaegii| vaha khuda hI phira baMda ho jaaegii| use Apa bahuta mAna do, usakA kahA eksepTa karo, usakI salAha mAno, taba taka vaha daqhala karatI rhegii| praznakartA : mana-buddhi-citta-ahaMkAra para apanA prabhAva par3anA cAhie na? dAdAzrI : mazInarI para kabhI bhI prabhAva par3atA hI nhiiN| isalie mana-buddhi-citta-ahaMkAra para prabhAva par3atA hI nhiiN| vaha to aMta:karaNa khAlI ho jAe, taba apane Apa hI saba ThikAne para A jAtA hai| 'inakA' sAtha nahIM deM aura 'inheM dekhate hI raheM, to Apa mukta hI haiN| jitane samaya taka 'Apa' inheM dekhate raheM, utane samaya citta kI zuddhi hotI rhegii| yadi

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AptavANI- -6 sirpha citta hI ThikAne para A gayA to sabakucha ThikAne para A jaaegaa| azuddha citta ke kAraNa bhaTakate rahate haiM isalie citta kI zuddhi hone taka hI yaha yoga acchI taraha se jamAnA hai / 87 praznakartA : bhItara kapaTa khar3A hotA hai, kapaTa ke vicAra Ate haiM, usakA kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : vaha sArA pudgala hai / vicAra karanevAlA bhI pudgala hai / AtmA meM aisI-vaisI vastu nahIM hai, usameM to kisI bhI prakAra kA kacarA nahIM hai| 'paz2ala' hotA hai, vaha bhI pudgala hai aura 'paz2ala' karanevAlA bhI pudgala hai! paz2ala ko jAnA kisane? AtmA ne ! saralatA aura kapaTa ko jo jAnatA hai, vaha AtmA hai ! DisIz2ana meM vevariMga praznakartA : kisI bAta kA DisIz2ana nahIM Ae, taba taka vevariMga (dvidhA) rahatI hai| dAdAzrI : DisIz2ana nahIM Ae to usase koI pleTaphorma para baiThe nahIM rahanA hai|'abhii jAU~ yA bAda meM jAU~' aisA hone lage, taba jo gAr3I Ae usameM baiTha jaanaa| DisIz2ana nahIM Ane kA kAraNa buddhi kA abhAva hai / buddhizAlI manuSya hara eka vastu meM DisIz2ana turaMta lA sakate haiM, oNna dI momenTa / pA~ca miniTa kI bhI dera nahIM lgtii| isalie hamane use komanasensa kahA hai| komanasensa arthAt evarIvhera eplIkebala / yaha cAbI kaisI hai ki hara eka tAlA khula jAegA isase ! yahA~ baiThA rahU~ yA jAU~, usakA yadi DisIz2ana nahIM A rahA ho to jAne lgnaa| hA~, yahA~ baiThe rahanA hogA to 'vyavasthita' tujhe vApasa le aaegaa| tujhe isa taraha DisIz2ana lenA cAhie / praznakartA : yahA~ se kisI bhI saMyoga meM jAnA hI nahIM hai, aisA hI aMdara se taya hotA rahatA hai aura aisA bhI batAtA hai ki jAnA to par3egA na !

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AptavANI-6 dAdAzrI : kisakA adhika z2ora hai, vaha dekha lenaa| praznakartA : yahA~ baiThe rahane ke lie hI z2ora detA hai! dAdAzrI : to phira yahA~ ke lie jora detA hai to yahA~ baiThe rhnaa| 'ye baiTha gae sAhaba, thor3e pakaur3iyA~ le AU~', khnaa| jaldI se dhIre calo! praznakartA : vyavahAra pahale yA nizcaya pahale? dAdAzrI : vyavahAra pahale, lekina usakA artha phira aisA nahIM hai ki vyavahAra para rAga kro| praznakartA : taba phira vyavahAra ke nirAgI ho jAe~? dAdAzrI : rAga karegA to siMgala gunAha hai aura nirAgI ho jAegA to Dabala gunAha hai, nirAgI bhI nahIM rahanA caahie| praznakartA : nirAgI arthAt kisa taraha? dAdAzrI : vyavahAra ke prati nispRha ho jAe~, vaha / vyavahAra ke prati nispRha arthAt madara kaheM ki, 'tU merI bAta kyoM nahIM mAnatA?' taba putra kahegA, 'maiM AtmA bana gayA hU~!' aisA nahIM clegaa| vyavahAra meM vinaya, viveka sabhIkucha honA caahie| apane vyavahAra se kisI ko zikAyata nahIM rahanI caahie| kisI bhI vastu meM jaldabAz2I karanA siMgala gunAha hai aura jaldabAz2I nahIM karanA, vaha Dabala gunAha hai| Apako kauna-se gaDDhe meM giranA hai? praznakartA : eka bhI nhiiN| dAdAzrI : isalie bAta ko samajha jaao| jaldabAz2I nahIM karegA to gAr3I kyA terI rAha dekhegI? aura jaldabAz2I karegA to kAra ko Takkara mAra degA! isalie jaldabAz2I kare, use siMgala gunAha kahA hai aura jaldabAz2I nahIM kare, use Dabala gunAha kahA hai|

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AptavANI-6 mana kA laMgara praznakartA : mana kisa taraha sthira raha sakatA hai? dAdAzrI : mana sthira karane ke kyA phAyade haiM? usakA Apane hisAba nikAlA hai? praznakartA : usase zAMti milegii| dAdAzrI : mana ko asthira kisane kiyA? praznakartA : hmne| dAdAzrI : hamane asthira kisalie kiyA? jAna-bUjhakara vaisA kiyA? 'khuda kA hita kisameM hai aura ahita kisameM' vaha nahIM jAnane ke kAraNa, mana kA jaisA-taisA upayoga kiyaa| yadi hitAhita kI khabara hotI, taba to usakA khuda ke hita meM hI upayoga krte| aba mana AuTa oNpha kaMTrola ho gayA hai| aba naye sire se jJAna ho, khuda ke hitAhita kI samajha Ae, vaisA jJAna prApta kare, usake bAda hI phira mana ThikAne aaegaa| yAnI jaba apane yahA~ jJAna dete haiM, taba mana ThikAne para AtA hai| mana hamezA jJAna se baMdhatA hai, dUsarI kisI cIz2a se mana baMdha sake aisA nahIM hai| ekAgratA karane se mana z2arA ThikAne rahatA hai, paraMtu vaha ghaMTAAdhA ghaMTA rahatA hai, phira vApasa TUTa jAtA hai| praznakartA : mana kyA hai? dAdAzrI : mana, vaha apanA sTaoNka hai| ye dukAnadAra bAraha mahInoM kA sArA sTaoNka nikAlate haiM yA nahIM nikAlate? nikAlate haiN| vaise hI isa pUrI lAipha kA sTaoNka, vaha mana hai| pichalI lAipha kA sTaoNka Apako isa bhava meM udaya meM AtA hai aura Apako Age insTrakzana detA hai| abhI bhItara nayA mana bana rahA hai| yaha purAnA mana hai, vaha abhI DiscArja hotA rahatA hai aura nayA mana taiyAra ho rahA hai| praznakartA : mana kisa taraha DiscArja hotA hai aura vaha kisa taraha banatA hai, usakA patA kisa taraha cala sakatA hai?

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AptavANI-6 dAdAzrI : mana meM jo vicAra Ate haiM, unameM Apa tanmayAkAra ho jAte ho, vaha AtmA kI zakti nahIM hai| vaha to bhItara nirbalatA hai, usake kAraNa yaha tanmayAkAra ho jAtA hai| ajJAnatA ke kAraNa tanmayAkAra hotA hai| yaha mUla AtmA vaisA nahIM hai| vaha to anaMta zaktivAlA, anaMta jJAnavAlA hai| paraMtu yaha jo ApakA mAnA huA AtmA hai, usake kAraNa yaha saba jhaMjhaTa hai| yAnI ki vicAra ke sAtha tanmayAkAra hue, tabhI se nayA cArja hone lgegaa| jinheM svarUpa kA jJAna hai, ve to jo vicAra Ate haiM, unameM tanmayAkAra nahIM hoNge| isalie jaise hI usakA TAima hogA ki mana DiscArja ho jaaegaa| phira nayA cArja nahIM hogaa| praznakartA : paraMtu isameM to oTomeTika tanmayAkAra ho jAte haiN| dAdAzrI : hA~, oTomeTika hI ho jAte haiM, usI ko bhrAMti kahate haiM na! isameM khuda kA koI puruSArtha hai hI nhiiN| jaba taka khuda puruSa nahIM huA, taba taka puruSArtha hai hI nhiiN| yaha to prakRti Apako z2abaradastI nacAtI hai| praznakartA : zarIra aura mana ke bIca kyA saMbaMdha hai? dAdAzrI : zarIra kA sArA hI niyaMtraNa, ina pA~ca indriyoM kA, sabhI kA niyaMtraNa mana ke hAtha meM hai| mana A~kha se kahe ki yaha tere dekhane jaisA nahIM hai, taba phira A~kheM turaMta dekha letI haiM, aura mana manA kare to A~kheM dekha rahI hoMgI, phira bhI baMda ho jaaegii| yAnI ki zarIra para sArA hI niyaMtraNa mana kA hai| praznakartA : bahuta bAra mana aMdara se kahatA hai ki nahIM dekhanA hai, phira bhI dekha lete haiM, vaha kyA hai? dAdAzrI : dekha letA hai vaha to usakA mUla svabhAva hai, paraMtu nahIM dekhanA hai vaisA nakkI kare, to phira se dekhegA hI nhiiN| dekhanA to A~khoM kA svabhAva hai| indriyoM ke svabhAva ke anusAra indriyA~ to lalacAtI hI rahatI haiM, paraMtu mana ke manA karane para phira ve dekheMgI hI nhiiN| aba 'mana ke Upara kisakA niyaMtraNa hai' vaha dekhanA hai| Apake mana para kisakA niyaMtraNa hai?

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AptavANI-6 91 praznakartA : buddhi kaa| dAdAzrI : buddhi kyA karatI hai? praznakartA : buddhi sAra-asAra kA bheda batAtI hai| dAdAzrI : buddhi kI icchA anusAra hotA hai? praznakartA : nahIM hotaa| dAdAzrI : buddhi ke Upara kisakA niyaMtraNa hai? praznakartA : usakA patA nhiiN| dAdAzrI : ahaMkAra kA, aura kisakA? mana-buddhi-citta aura ahaMkAra, ye cAra aMta:karaNa ke bhAga haiN| ina cAra janoM kA isa zarIra para niyaMtraNa hai, aura ina cAra janoM kA niyaMtraNa hai, isalie bhrAMti khaDI hai| 'khuda ke' hAtha meM niyaMtraNa A jAe to phira yaha mAthApaccI nahIM rahegI, phira puruSArtha utpanna hogaa| praznakartA : vaha hAtha meM A jAe, usake lie kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : vaha saba 'jJAnIpuruSa' kara dete haiN| jo khuda baMdhanamukta ho cuke hoM, ve hameM mukta kara sakate haiN| jo khuda baMdhA huA ho, vaha dUsaroM ko kisa taraha mukta kara sakegA? aura phira kaliyuga ke manuSyoM meM itanI zakti nahIM hai ki apane Apa kara skeN| isa kaliyuga ke manuSya kaise haiM? ye to phisalate-phisalate Ae haiM, phisala gae isalie aba unase apane Apa car3hA jA sake, aisA hai hI nahIM, isalie 'jJAnIpuruSa' kI helpa lenI pdd'egii| jahA~ inTaresTa, vahIM ekAgratA praznakartA : dAdA, mujhe bhagavAna meM ekAgratA nahIM rhtii| dAdAzrI : Apa sabjI lene yA sAr3I lene jAtI ho, usameM ekAgratA rahatI hai yA nahIM? praznakartA : hA~, rahatI hai| moha hotA hai isalie rahatI hai|

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AptavANI-6 dAdAzrI : bhagavAna meM aura mokSa meM Apako inTaresTa hI nahIM, isalie usameM ekAgratA nahIM rhtii| are, eka strI bahuta suMdara thI aura usakA pati ekadama sA~valA thaa| usa strI se maiMne eka dina pUchA, 'yaha terA pati sA~valA hai, to terA bhAva usa para saMpUrNa rahatA hai?' taba usane kahA ki, 'mere pati mujhe bahuta priya hai|' aba aisA sA~valA pati use priya hai, para bhagavAna Apako priya nahIM lagate! yaha bhI eka Azcarya hai na! phira ye pUchatI haiM ki, merA mana ekAgra kyoM nahIM ho pAtA? sabjI lene jAe, vahA~ ekAgratA kisa taraha ho jAtI hai? ye to anubhava kI bAteM haiN| yaha koI gappa nahIM hai| yaha to bhagavAna meM inTaresTa hI nahIM, isalie ekAgratA nahIM rhtii| yaha to bhagavAna ke prati Asakti ho jAegI to bhagavAna meM ekAgratA rhegii| jaba taka paisoM meM inTaresTa hai taba taka paise-paise karatA hai aura bhagavAna meM inTaresTa AyA to paise kA inTaresTa chUTa jaaegaa| yAnI ki ApakA inTaresTa badalanA caahie| aba bhagavAna meM inTaresTa nahIM hai, to usameM ApakA doSa nahIM hai| jo vastu dekhI nahIM ho, usameM inTaresTa kisa taraha AegA? isa sAr3I ko to Apa dekhatI ho, usake raMgarUpa dekhate haiM isalie usameM inTaresTa AegA hI, lekina bhagavAna to dikhate hI nahIM na? taba aisA kahA hai ki, bhagavAna ke pratinidhi jaise jo 'jJAnIpuruSa' haiM, vahA~ para ApakA inTaresTa rkho| vahA~ inTaresTa AegA aura unameM inTaresTa AyA, to bhagavAna ko pahu~ca gayA smjho|| jahA~ kaSAya haiM, vahA~ inTaresTa rahe to ve inTaresTa kaSAyika hote haiN| vaha kaSAyika pratIti hai| vaha pratIti TUTa jAtI hai bAda meM, yAnI rAga se baiThatI aura dveSa se chUTatI hai aura bhagavAna ke pratinidhi meM inTaresTa rAga se nahIM aataa| unake pAsa rAga karane jaisA kucha hotA hI nahIM na?

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[12] prAkRta guNoM kA vinAza ho jAegA! apane para jisakI chAyA par3e, usakA roga avazya ghusa jAtA hai| yaha hAphUz2a kA Ama Upara se kitanA hI rUpavAna ho, lekina usakA hameM kyA karanA hai? bhale hI kitane bhI guNa hoM, phira bhI kyA karanA hai? koI kahe ki sAhaba, isameM itane sAre guNa haiM, guNoM kA dhAma hai na? taba vItarAgoM ne kyA kahA? yaha pharsTaklAsa guNoM kA dhAma to hai| paraMtu vaha kisake adhIna hai? ve guNa usake khuda ke adhIna nahIM haiN| pitta, vAyu aura kapha ke adhIna haiN| ye tInoM hI guNa yadi bar3ha jAe~, to use sannipAta ho jAegA aura tujhe gAliyA~ degA! eka akSara bhI kisI ko gAlI yA apazabda nahIM bole, vaisA manuSya, sannipAta hone para kyA karatA hai? isalie bhagavAna ne kahA hai ki eka hI guMThANe (48 minaTsa) meM ye sabhI paudgalika guNa phrekcara ho sakate haiM, ye guNa itane vinAzI haiN| tU kamAI kara-karake kitane dinoM taka karegA? aura tridoSa hote hI saba eka sAtha khatma ho jAe~ge! jaba manuSya se duHkha sahana nahIM hotA, taba dimAg2a meM kreka par3atA hai| use sannipAta nahIM kahate, paraMtu kreka kahate haiN| hameM aisA lagatA hai ki aisA kaisA bola rahA hai? vaha isalie ki isa injana meM kreka par3a gayA hai, usakI dAdA ke pAsa se velDiMga karavA lenaa| naye injana meM bhI kreka par3a jAtA hai! duHkha sahana nahIM ho pAe aura saccA puruSa ho, to kreka ho jAtA hai, varnA DhITha ho jAtA hai| DhITha se to kreka acchA, kreka kA to hama velDiMga kara deM to injana cala par3atA hai| sabhI naye hI injana, leMkezAyara meM se lAe hue, paraMtu heDa kreka ho gae haiM to caleMge kisa taraha? ina manuSyoM

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AptavANI-6 ke bhI heDa meM kreka par3a jAtA hai| ve tRtiyam hI bolate haiN| hama pUche kucha aura ve bolate haiM kucha aura? isalie ina guNoM kI koI qImata hI nahIM hai| bAsamatI ke suMdara cAvala hoM, paraMtu unakA dUsare dina kyA hotA hai? sar3a jAte haiM ! to ye paudgalika guNa sar3a jaaeNge| seTha bahuta dayAlu dikhate haiM, paraMtu kisI dina naukara para cir3ha jAe~, taba nirdayatA nikalatI hai| vaha apane se dekhI nahIM jaatii| ataH yaha samajhane jaisI bAta hai! jJAnI kI virAdhanA kA matalaba hI... praznakartA : pUrvabhava meM yadi jJAnI kI virAdhanA kI ho to usakA pariNAma kyA AtA hai? ye saba lakSaNa yadi mujhameM haiM, to usake lie kSamA dI jA sakatI hai yA vaha bhoganA hI par3egA? dAdAzrI : jJAnI to khuda hI usakA sArA ilAja kara dete haiN| jJAnI to karuNAvAle hote haiN| isalie ve, jitanA unakI sattA meM ho utanI davAI to pilA hI dete haiM sabhI ko| paraMtu unakI sattA se bAhara kI vastu to bhoganI hI par3atI hai, kyoMki visarjana kudarata ke hAtha meM hai| praznakartA : virAdhanA ke lie pachatAvA hotA rahatA hai| dAdAzrI : usakA pachatAvA hotA hai, du:kha kA vedana karatA hai, bhoganA par3atA hai, asamAdhi rahatI hai, usakA aMta hI nahIM aataa| vaha choDatI hI nahIM na? praznakartA : usakA aMta hI nahIM AegA, kyA aisA hai dAdA? dAdAzrI : aMta nahIM AegA, usakA artha yaha hai ki vaha kahIM docAra dinoM meM khatma ho jAe, aisI cIz2a nahIM hotii| kisI manuSya kI isa kamare jitanI TaMkI hotI hai aura kisI kI pUrI bilDiMga jitanI TaMkI hotI hai| usameM kyA pharka nahIM hogA? praznakartA : paraMtu dAdA, vaha khAlI to ho hI jAegA na?

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AptavANI-6 dAdAzrI : khAlI ho jaaegaa| khAlI ho jAegA aisA mAnakara hameM calate rahanA hai, lekina phira se vaisI bhUla nahIM honI caahie| nahIM to vaha pAipa baMda ho jaaegaa| phira yadi bhUla hone ko ho to tIna upavAsa karanA, paraMtu virAdhanA mata hone denA! jJAnI ke rAjIpe kI cAbI praznakartA : dAdA bhagavAna, ApakI saccI pahacAna prApta karane ke lie hameM kyA karanA cAhie? aura ApakA rAjIpA (gurujanoM kI kRpA aura prasannatA) prApta karane ke lie hameM kisa prakAra pAtratA prApta karanI cAhie? dAdAzrI : rAjIpA prApta karane ke lie to 'parama vinaya' kI hI z2arUrata hai| dUsarI kisI cIz2a kI z2arUrata nahIM hai| 'parama vinaya' se hI rAjIpA milatA hai| aisA kucha hai hI nahIM ki paira dabAne se rAjIpA milatA hai| mujhe gAr3iyoM meM ghumAo to bhI rAjIpA nahIM milegaa| 'parama vinaya' se hI milegaa| praznakartA : 'parama vinaya' smjhaaie| dAdAzrI : jisameM vizeSarUpa se 'sinsiyAriTI' aura 'maoNreliTI' (naitikatA) ho aura jise hamAre sAtha ekatA rahe, judAI nahIM lage, 'maiM aura dAdA eka hI haiM' aisA lagatA rahe, vahA~ sabhI zaktiyA~ utpanna ho jAtI haiN| 'parama vinaya' kA artha to bahuta bar3A hotA hai| apane yahA~ satsaMga meM itane loga Ate haiM, lekina yahA~ para 'parama vinaya' ke kAraNa binA niyama ke saba calatA hai| 'parama vinaya' hai, isalie niyama kI z2arUrata nahIM pdd'ii| jo hamArI AjJA meM vizeSa rUpa se raheM, unheM pariNAma acchA milatA hai| unheM hamArA rAjIpA prApta ho jAtA hai| Apa aisA pariNAma batAo ki mujhe Apako mere pAsa biThAne kA mana ho|

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[13] gharSaNa se gar3hAI hama brahmAMDa ke mAlika haiM (AtmasvarUpa kI dRSTi se)| isalie kisI jIva meM dakhalaMdAjI nahIM karanI caahie| ho sake to helpa karo aura nahIM ho sake to koI harja nahIM, lekina kisImeM daqhalaMdAz2I honI hI nahIM caahie| praznakartA : yAnI usakA artha aisA huA ki para-AtmA ko paramAtmA mAneM? dAdAzrI : nhiiN| mAnanA nahIM hai, vaha hai hI prmaatmaa| mAnanA to gappa khlaaegaa| gappa to yAda rahe yA na bhI rahe, yaha to vAstava meM paramAtmA hI hai| paraMtu ye paramAtmA vibhUti svarUpa meM Ae hue haiN| dUsarA kucha hai hI nhiiN| phira bhale hI koI bhIkha mA~ga rahA ho, paraMtu vaha bhI vibhUti hai aura rAjA ho, vaha bhI vibhUti hai| apane yahA~ rAjA hote haiM, unheM vibhUti svarUpa kahate haiN| bhikhArI ko nahIM khte| mUla svarUpa hai, usameM se vizeSatA utpanna huI hai| vizeSa rUpa huA hai, isalie vibhUti kahalAtA hai, aura vibhUti, ve bhagavAna hI mAne jAe~ge na! isalie kisImeM bhI daqhala to karanI hI nahIM caahie| sAmanevAlA daqhala kare to use hameM sahana kara lenA cAhie, kyoMki bhagavAna yadi daqhala kareM to hameM use sahana karanA hI caahie| hama vAstava meM 'vyavahAra svarUpa' nahIM haiN| 'yaha' sArA sirpha TemparerI eDajasTamenTa hai| jisa taraha bacce khilaunoM se khelate haiM, vaise hI pUrA jagat khilaunoM se khela rahA hai! khuda apane hita kA kucha karatA hI nhiiN| niraMtara paravazatA ke du:kha meM hI rahatA hai aura TakarAtA rahatA hai| saMgharSaNa aura gharSaNa se AtmA kI sArI anaMta zaktiyA~ phrekcara ho jAtI haiN|

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AptavANI-6 naukara kapa-pleTa phor3a de to aMdara saMgharSaNa ho jAtA hai| usakA kyA kAraNa hai? bhAna nahIM hai, jAgRti nahIM hai ki merA kauna sA aura parAyA kauna sA? parAye kA, maiM calAtA hU~ yA aura koI calAtA hai? yaha jo Apako aisA lagatA hai ki 'maiM calAtA hU~', to usameM se Apa kucha bhI nahIM calAte ho| vaha to Apa sirpha mAna baiThe ho| Apako jo calAnA hai usakI Apako khabara hI nahIM hai| puruSa bana jAe~, taba phira puruSArtha ho sakatA hai| puruSa hI nahIM bane, taba taka puruSArtha kisa taraha se ho sakegA? ___ vyavahAra zuddha karane ke lie kyA cAhie? komanasensa kampalITa caahie| sthiratA-gaMbhIratA caahie| vyavahAra meM komanasensa kI z2arUrata hai| komanasensa arthAt evarIvhera epliikebl| svarUpajJAna ke sAtha komanasensa ho to bahuta dIpAyamAna hogaa| praznakartA : komanasensa kisa taraha prakaTa hotA hai? dAdAzrI : koI khuda se TakarAe, lekina khuda kisI se nahIM TakarAe, isa taraha se rahe, to komanasensa utpanna hotA hai| lekina khuda ko kisI se TakarAnA nahIM cAhie, nahIM to komanasensa calA jAegA! gharSaNa khuda kI tarafa se nahIM honA caahie| sAmanevAle ke gharSaNa se komanasensa utpanna hotA hai| yaha AtmA kI zakti aisI hai ki gharSaNa ke samaya kaisA bartAva karanA, usakA saba upAya batA detI hai aura eka bAra batA de, phira vaha jJAna jAtA nahIM hai| aise karatekarate komanasensa ikaTThA hotA hai| ___ apanA vijJAna prApta karane ke bAda vyakti isa taraha se raha sakatA hai| yA phira sAmAnya janatA meM koI vyakti isa taraha se raha sake, aise puNyazAlI loga hote haiM! paraMtu ve to kucha hI bAbata para isa taraha se raha sakate haiM, haraeka bAbata meM nahIM raha sakate! sArI Atmazakti yadi kabhI khatma hotI ho to vaha gharSaNa se| saMgharSa

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AptavANI-6 se thor3A bhI TakarAe to khatama! sAmanevAlA TakarAe to hameM saMyamapUrvaka rahanA cAhie! TakarAva to honA hI nahIM caahie| phira yaha deha khatma honA ho to ho jAe, paraMtu TakarAva meM nahIM AnA caahie| deha to kisI ke kahane se calA nahIM jaataa| deha to vyavasthita ke tAbe meM hai! isa jagat meM baira se gharSaNa hotA hai| saMsAra kA mUla bIja, baira hai| jisake baira aura gharSaNa, donoM baMda ho gae usakA mokSa ho gayA ! prema bAdhaka nahIM hai, baira jAe taba prema utpanna hotA hai| merA kisI ke khAsa gharSaNa nahIM hotaa| mujhe komanasensa z2abaradasta hai isalie Apa kyA kahanA cAhate ho, vaha turaMta hI samajha meM A jAtA hai| logoM ko aisA lagatA hai ki ye dAdA kA ahita kara rahe haiM, paraMtu mujhe turaMta samajha meM A jAtA hai ki yaha ahita, ahita nahIM hai| sAMsArika ahita nahIM hai aura dhArmika ahita bhI nahIM hai, aura AtmA saMbaMdha meM ahita hai hI nhiiN| logoM ko aisA lagatA hai ki AtmA kA ahita kara rahe haiM, paraMtu hameM usameM hita samajha meM AtA hai| itanA isa komanasensa kA prabhAva hai| isalie hamane komanasensa kA artha likhA hai ki 'evarIvhera epliikebl|' Ajakala kI janarezana meM komanasensa jaisI vastu hai hI nhiiN| janarezana Tu janarezana komanasensa kama hotA gayA hai| pUrA jagat gharSaNa aura saMgharSaNa meM par3A huA hai| yaha divAlI ke dina saba nakkI karate haiM ki Aja gharSaNa nahIM karanA hai, isalie usa dina acchA-acchA khAne ko milatA hai, acche-acche kapar3e pahanane ko milate haiM, sabakucha hI acchA-acchA milatA hai| jahA~ jAo vahA~ Ao, Ao' kareM, vaisA prema milatA hai| saMgharSa nahIM ho to prema rahatA hai| sahI-galata dekhane kI z2arUrata hI nahIM hai| vyavahArika buddhi vyavahAra meM to kAma AtI hI hai, paraMtu vaha to apane Apa eDajasTa hai hii| paraMtu dUsarI vizeSa buddhi hai, vahI hamezA saMgharSa karavAtI hai!

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AptavANI-6 99 praznakartA : sabhI gharSaNoM kA kAraNa yahI hai na ki eka 'leyara' se dUsare 'leyara' (manuSyoM ke vikAsa ke stara ) kA aMtara bahuta adhika hai? dAdAzrI : gharSaNa, vaha pragati hai ! jitanI mothApaccI hotI hai, gharSaNa hotA hai, utanA hI Age bar3hane kA rAstA milatA hai / gharSaNa nahIM hogA to vahIM ke vahIM rhoge| loga gharSaNa DhU~r3hate haiM / praznakartA : gharSaNa pragati ke lie hai, aisA karake DhU~Dhe to pragati hogI? dAdAzrI : paraMtu ve samajhakara nahIM DhU~r3hate ! bhagavAna kahIM Age nahIM le jA rahe haiM, gharSaNa Age le jAtA hai / gharSaNa kucha hada taka Age lA sakatA hai, phira jJAnI mileM tabhI kAma hotA hai / gharSaNa to kudaratI rUpa se hotA hai| nadI meM patthara idhara se udhara ghisa - ghisakara gola hotA hai, usa taraha / praznakartA : gharSaNa aura saMgharSaNa meM kyA pharka hai? dAdAzrI : jinameM jIva nahIM ho, ve saba TakarAe~, to vaha gharSaNa kahalAtA haiM aura jIvavAle TakarAe~, taba saMgharSaNa hotA hai| praznakartA : saMgharSaNa se Atmazakti ruMdha jAtI hai na? dAdAzrI : hA~, sahI bAta hai| saMgharSa ho usameM harja nahIM hai| vaha bhAva nikAla dene ko kahatA hU~ ki 'hameM saMgharSa karanA hai'| 'hamameM' saMgharSa karane kA bhAva nahIM honA cAhie, phira bhale hI 'caMdUbhAI' saMgharSa kare / bhAva ruMdha jAe~ aisA hameM nahIM rahanA cAhie ! deha kA TakarAva ho jAe aura coTa lagI ho to ilAja karavAne se ThIka ho jAtA hai| paraMtu gharSaNa aura saMgharSaNa se mana meM jo dAg2a par3a gae hoM, buddhi para dAg2a par3a gae hoM to unheM kauna nikAlegA ? haz2AroM janmoM taka bhI nahIM jaaeNge| praznakartA : atyadhika gharSaNa Ae to jar3atA A jAtI hai na? dAdAzrI : jar3atA to A jAtI hai paraMtu zaktiyA~ bhI khatma ho jAtI

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AptavANI-6 haiN| anaMta zaktiyA~ usI ke kAraNa nahIM dikhatIM / zaktiyA~ anaMta hai, paraMtu gharSaNa ke kAraNa sabhI khatma ho gaI haiM! bhagavAna mahAvIra kA eka bhI gharSaNa nahIM huA thaa| janma huA taba se lekara TheTha taka ! aura apane to pacAsa haz2Ara, lAkha hone cAhie, usake badale karor3oM hote haiM, usakA kyA? are ! dina meM bhI bIsa-paccIsa bAra to hotA hI hai / yoM hI z2arA A~kha U~cI ho jAe ki gharSaNa, dUsaroM para kucha ulTA bhAva huA, vaha saba gharSaNa! isa dIvAra ke sAtha gharSaNa ho jAe to kyA hogA? 100 praznakartA : sira phUTa jaaegaa| dAdAzrI : vaha to jar3a hai ! aura yaha to cetanavAloM ke sAtha gharSaNa hai, phira kyA hogA? gharSaNa hI sirpha nahIM ho, to manuSya mokSa meM jaae| koI sIkha gayA ki mujhe gharSaNa meM AnA hI nahIM hai, to phira use bIca meM guru kI yA kisI kI bhI z2arUrata nahIM hai| eka-do janmoM meM sIdhA mokSa meM jaaegaa| 'gharSaNa meM AnA hI nahIM hai' aisA yadi usakI zraddhA meM A gayA aura nizcita hI kara liyA, to taba se hI samakita ho gayA ! isalie yadi kabhI kisI ko samakita karanA ho to hama gAranTI dete haiM ki jAo, gharSaNa nahIM karane kA nizcaya karo, taba se hI samakita ho jAegA ! praznakartA : gharSaNa aura saMgharSaNa se mana aura buddhi para ghAva lagate haiM? dAdAzrI : are ! mana para, buddhi para to kyA, pUre aMta:karaNa para ghAva lagate rahate haiM aura usakA asara zarIra para bhI par3atA hai ! yAnI gharSaNa se to kitanI sArI muzkileM haiM ! praznakartA : gharSaNa nahIM hotA ho, to use saccA ahiMsaka bhAva paidA huA mAnA jAegA ? dAdAzrI : nahIM, aisA kucha nahIM! paraMtu ina dAdA ke pAsa se jAnA ki isa dIvAra ke sAtha gharSaNa karane meM itanA 'phAyadA' hai, to bhagavAna ke sAtha gharSaNa karane meM kitanA 'phAyadA'? itanA jAnane se hI parivartana hotA rahegA ! ahiMsA to pUrI taraha se samajha meM Ae, aisI nahIM hai, aura pUrI taraha

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AptavANI-6 101 se samajhanA bahuta muzkila hai| isake badale to itanA pakar3A ho na ki, 'gharSaNa meM kabhI bhI nahIM AnA hai|' taba phira kyA hogA? ki zaktiyA~ salAmata raheMgI, aura dinoMdina zaktiyA~ bar3hatI hI jaaeNgii| phira gharSaNa se honevAlA nukasAna nahIM hogA! kabhI gharSaNa ho jAe to gharSaNa ke bAda hama pratikramaNa kareM to vaha miTa jaaeNge| yAnI yaha samajhanA cAhie ki yahA~ para gharSaNa ho jAtA hai, to vahA~ pratikramaNa karanA cAhie, nahIM to bahuta jokhimadArI hai| isa jJAna se mokSa meM to jAoge, paraMtu gharSaNa se mokSa meM jAne meM ar3acana bahuta AegI aura dera lagegI! isa dIvAra ke lie ulTe vicAra Ae~ to harja nahIM hai, kyoMki ekapakSIya nukasAna hai| jaba ki jIvita vyaktiyoM ke lie eka ulTA vicAra AyA ki jokhima hai| donoM pakSoM ko nukasAna hotA hai| paraMtu usake bAda yadi hama pratikramaNa kareM to saba doSa cale jaaeNge| isalie jahA~-jahA~ gharSaNa hotA hai, vahA~ para pratikramaNa karo to gharSaNa khatma ho jaaegaa| praznakartA : gharSaNa kauna karavAtA hai? jar3a yA cetana? dAdAzrI : pichale gharSaNa hI gharSaNa karavAte haiM ! jar3a yA cetana kA isameM prazna hI nahIM hai| AtmA isameM hAtha DAlatA hI nhiiN| yaha saba gharSaNa pudgala hI karavAtA hai, paraMtu jo pichale gharSaNa haiM ve phira se gharSaNa karavAte haiN| jinake pichale gharSaNa khatma ho cuke haiM, unheM phira se gharSaNa nahIM hotaa| nahIM to gharSaNa aura usake Upara se gharSaNa, usake Upara se gharSaNa isa taraha se bar3hatA hI rahatA hai| pudgala arthAt kyA ki vaha pUrA jar3a nahIM hai| vaha mizracetana hai| yaha vibhAvika pudgala kahalAtA hai| vibhAvika arthAt vizeSabhAva se pariNAmita huA pudgala, vahI saba karavAtA hai! jo zuddha pudgala hai, vaha pudgala aisA-vaisA nahIM krvaataa| yaha pudgala to mizracetanavAlA bana cukA hai| AtmA kA vizeSa bhAva aura isakA vizeSa bhAva, donoM milakara tIsarA rUpa banA - prakRti svarUpa huaa| vahI sArA gharSaNa karavAtA hai!

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102 AptavANI-6 praznakartA : Apa kahate haiM, gharSaNa se zaktiyA~ saba khatma ho jAtI haiN| to jAgRti se zakti phira se khiMcakara A jAegI kyA? dAdAzrI : zaktiyoM ko khIMcane kI z2arUrata nahIM hai| zaktiyA~ to haiM hii| aba utpanna ho rahI haiN| pUrva meM (pichale janma meM) jo gharSaNa hae the na, usase nukasAna huA thA, vahI vApasa A rahA hai| paraMtu aba yadi nayA gharSaNa khar3A kareM to phira se zakti calI jAegI, AI huI zakti bhI calI jAegI aura yadi khuda gharSaNa hone hI nahIM de to zakti utpanna hotI rahegI!

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[14] pratikUlatA kI prIti praznakartA : hara kisI ko anukUla saMyoga hI cAhie, aisA kyoM? dAdAzrI : anukUla arthAt sukha, jisameM zAtA (sukha-pariNAma) lage vaha anukUla, azAtA (duHkha-pariNAma) lage vaha prtikuul| AtmA kA svabhAva AnaMdavAlA hai, isalie use pratikUlatA cAhie hI nahIM na ! isalie choTe se choTA jIva ho, use bhI yadi anukUla nahIM Ae to khisaka jAtA hai! isalie aMtima bAta yaha samajha lenI hai ki pratikUla aura anukUla ko eka kara ddaalo| isa cIz2a meM kucha tathya nahIM hai| isa rupaye ke sikke meM Age rAnI hotI hai aura pIche likhA huA hotA hai, usake jaisA hai| usI taraha isameM kucha hai hI nahIM / anukUla aura pratikUla saba kalpanAe~ hI haiN| Apa zuddhAtmA bana gae, isalie phira anukUla bhI nahIM hai aura pratikUla bhI nahIM hai| yaha to jaba taka Aropita bhAva hai, tabhI taka saMsAra hai aura tabhI taka anukUla aura pratikUla kA jhaMjhaTa hai| aba to jagat ko jo pratikUla lagatA hai, vaha hameM anukUla lagatA hai / pratikUlatA Ae tabhI hameM patA calatA hai ki pArA car3hA hai yA utarA hai / I hama ghara para Ae~ aura Ate hI kucha upAdhi khar3I ho gaI to hama jAna jAte haiM ki hameM abhI taka U~ce-nIce pariNAma barata rahe haiM / varnA bhItara ThaMDaka ho gaI hai, aisA bhI patA calatA hai| usake lie tharmAmITara cAhie na? usakA tharmAmITara bAz2Ara meM nahIM milatA hai, apane ghara para ekAdha ho

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AptavANI-6 to acchaa| abhI yaha kaliyuga hai, dUSamakAla hai, isalie ghara meM do-cAra 'tharmAmITara' hote hI haiM, eka nahIM hotA ! nahIM to hameM kauna nApegA? kisI ko kirAe para rakheM, to bhI nahIM karegA ! kirAyevAlA apanA apamAna karegA, lekina usakA mu~ha phUlA huA nahIM hogA, isalie hama samajha jAe~ge ki yaha banAvaTI hai! aura yaha to 'ekz2ekTa' ! mu~ha - mu~ha phUlA huA, A~kheM lAla, paise kharca karane para bhI aisA nahIM ho sakatA jabaki yaha to hameM muphta meM milatA hai ! 104 yaha saMsAra A~khoM se dikhane meM suMdara lage aisA hai / vaha chUTe kisa taraha? mAra khAe aura coTa lage, phira bhI vApasa bhUla jAtA hai| ye loga kahate haiM na ki bairAga nahIM rahatA, lekina vaha rahegA kisa taraha? vAstava meM saMyogoM aura zuddhAtmA ke sivA dUsarA kucha hai hI nahIM / phira saMyoga bhI do prakAra ke haiM - pratikUla aura anukuul| unameM, anukUla meM koI parezAnI nahIM AtI, pratikUla hI parezAna karate haiN| utane hI saMyogoM ko hameM sa~bhAla lenA hai, aura phira saMyoga viyogI svabhAva ke hote haiM / isalie usakA samaya ho jAegA, taba calatA bnegaa| hama use 'baiTha-baiTha' kaheM, phira bhI khar3A nahIM rahegA ! kharAba saMyoga adhika nahIM rhte| loga du:khI kyoM hai? kyoMki kharAba saMyogoM ko yAda kara-karake duHkhI hote haiM / vaha gayA, aba kisa lie ronAdhonA macAyA hai? jale usa samaya roe to bAta alaga hai / para aba to tere ThIka hone kI taiyArI huI hai, phira bhI zora macAtA hai ki dekho, 'maiM jala gayA, maiM jala gayA!' karatA rahatA hai| I Apake bhI aba sirpha saMyoga hI bace haiM / mIThe saMyogoM kA Apako upayoga karanA nahIM AtA / mIThe saMyogoM kA Apa vedana karate ho, isalie kar3avoM kA bhI vedana karanA par3atA hai / paraMtu yadi mIThe ko 'jAno', to kar3ave meM bhI 'jAnapanA' rahegA ! lekina ApakI abhI pahale kI AdateM jAtI nahIM, isalie vedana karane jAte ho / AtmA vedana karatA hI nahIM, AtmA jAnatA hI rahatA hai| jo vedana karatA hai vaha bhrA~ta AtmA hai, pratiSThita AtmA hai|

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AptavANI-6 105 use bhI hameM jAnanA hai ki 'ohoho! yaha pratiSThita AtmA jalebI meM tanmayAkAra ho gayA hai|' ___ mahAvIra bhagavAna ne unake ziSyoM ko sikhAyA thA ki Apa bAhara jAte ho aura loga ekAdha lakar3I mAreM to Apako aisA samajhanA hai ki sirpha lakaDI hI mArI hai na? hAtha to nahIM tor3A na? itanI to bacata huI! arthAt ise hI lAbha maannaa| koI eka hAtha tor3e to, dUsarA to nahIM tor3A na? do hAtha kATa die, taba kaho paira to haiM na? do hAtha aura do paira kATa DAle to kahanA ki maiM jIvita to hU~ na? A~khoM se to dikha rahA hai na? lAbha-alAbha bhagavAna ne dikhaayaa| tU ronA mata, ha~sa, AnaMda kr| bAta galata nahIM hai na? bhagavAna ne samyak dRSTi se dekhA thA, usase nukasAna meM bhI fAyadA dikhatA hai| chuTakAre kI cAbI kauna sI? isa jagat kA niyama kyA hai? ki zaktizAlI azakta ko mAratA hai| kudarata to kise zaktizAlI banAtI hai ki pApa kama kie hoM, use zaktizAlI banAtI hai aura pApa adhika kie hoM, use azakta banAtI hai| yadi Apako chuTakArA pAnA ho to eka bAra mAra khA lo| maiMne jiMdagIbhara aisA hI kiyA hai| usake bAda phira maiMne sAra nikAla liyA ki mere lie kisI bhI prakAra kI mAra nahIM rahI, bhaya bhI nahIM rhaa| pUrA 'varlDa' kyA hai, maiMne usakA sAra nikAla liyA hai| mujhe khuda ko to sAra mila gayA hai, paraMtu aba logoM ko bhI sAra nikAlakara detA huuN| yAnI kabhI na kabhI to isa lAina para AnA hI par3egA na? niyama kisI ko nahIM chor3atA hai| z2arA sA gunAha kiyA ki cAra pairoMvAle banakara bhoganA pdd'egaa| cAra pairoM meM phira sukha lagegA kyA? gunAha mAtra baMda kara do| ahiMsA se Apako kisI bhI prakAra kI mAra par3ane kA bhaya nahIM rhegaa| koI mAregA, koI kATa legA, utanA bhI

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106 AptavANI-6 bhaya mata rkhnaa| yaha pUrA kamarA sA~poM se bharA huA ho, phira bhI yadi ahiMsaka puruSa aMdara praveza kare to sA~pa eka-dUsare para car3ha jAe~ge, paraMtu unheM chUe~ge nahIM! isalie sAvadhAnIpUrvaka clnaa| yaha jagat bahuta hI alaga prakAra kA hai| bilkula nyAya svarUpa hai! jagat kA sAra nikAlakara anubhava kI sTeja para leMge, tabhI kAma hogA na? 'isakA kyA pariNAma AegA?' usakI 'risarca' karanI par3egI na? praznakartA : mAra khAne ke bAda 'risarca' karatA hai na? dAdAzrI : hA~, asalI 'risarca' to mAra khAne ke bAda hI hotI hai| mArane ke bAda 'risarca' nahIM ho paatii| jagat nirdoSa-nizcaya se, vyavahAra se dAdAzrI : logoM ko, khuda ke doSa nahIM dikhate hoMge na? praznakartA : nahIM dikhte| dAdAzrI : kyoM? usakA kyA kAraNa hogA? itane sAre buddhizAlI loga haiM na? praznakartA : dUsaroM ke sabhI doSa dikhate haiN| dAdAzrI : ve bhI sacce doSa nahIM dikhte| khuda kI buddhi se nApanApakara sAmanevAle ke doSa nikAlatA hai| isa jagat meM hameM to kisI kA bhI doSa nahIM dikhtaa| praznakartA : dAdA, pUrA jagat nirdoSa haiN| vaha 'riyala' bhAva se ThIka hai, paraMtu 'rileTiva' bhAva se to usa vastu meM doSa rahegA hI na? dAdAzrI : hA~, paraMtu hama aba 'rileTiva' meM rahanA hI nahIM cAhate na? hameM to 'riyala' bhAva meM hI rahanA hai| 'rileTiva' bhAva arthAt sNsaarbhaav| Apako 'rileTiva' meM acchA lagatA hai yA 'riyala' meM?

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AptavANI-6 107 praznakartA : 'riyala' meM hI acchA lagatA hai, dAdA! lekina donoM meM hI rahanA par3atA hai na? hama nizcaya se samajhate haiM ki saba nirdoSa hI haiM, lekina jaba vyavahAra meM kaI bAra dUsarI tarafa bhI dekhanA par3atA hai na? dAdAzrI : nahIM, vyavahAra aisA nahIM kahatA ki sAmanevAle ke doSa dekhane pdd'eNge| vyavahAra meM to 'hama' bhI rahate hI haiM na? phira bhI hameM jagat nirdoSa hI dikhatA hai| jagat meM doSita koI hai hI nhiiN| doSita dikhate haiM, vaha apanI hI bhUla hai| phira bhI itane sAre korTa, vakIla, sarakAra, saba doSita hI kahate haiM na? praznakartA : hameM kaisA mAnanA cAhie? vyavahAra se to doSita haiM hI dAdAzrI : vyavahAra se koI doSita nahIM hai| zuddha vyavahAra se koI doSita hai hI nhiiN| nizcaya se sabhI zuddhAtmA ho gae, isalie unake doSa haiM hI nahIM na? aura doSita hote to mahAvIra ko koI to doSita dikhatA, paraMtu bhagavAna ko koI doSita nahIM dikhaa| itane bar3e-bar3e khaTamala kATate the, lekina ve doSita nahIM dikhe| doSadarzana, upayoga se praznakartA : yAda karake pichale doSa dekhe jA sakate haiM? dAdAzrI : pichale doSa, vAstava meM to upayoga se hI dikhate haiN| yAda karane se nahIM dikhte| yAda karane ke lie to sira khujalAnA par3atA hai| AvaraNa A jAte haiM, taba yAda karanA par3atA hai na? ina nagInabhAI ke sAtha khiTapiTa ho gaI ho, taba yadi nagInabhAI kA pratikramaNa kareM to nagInabhAI hAz2ira ho hI jaaeNge| sirpha vaisA upayoga hI rakhanA hai| apane mArga meM yAda karane kA to kucha hai hI nhiiN| yAda karanA, vaha to 'memorI' ke adhIna hai|

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108 AptavANI-6 praznakartA : 'memorI' arthAt buddhi ke adhIna kahalAtA hai? dAdAzrI : 'memorI' arthAt yadi AvaraNa bar3A ho, to eka ghaMTe taka yAda nahIM AtA, jaise bar3A bAdala A gayA ho, aura kabhI-kabhI pA~ca minaTa meM hI dikha jAtA hai, do minaTa meM bhI dikha jAtA hai| isa prakAra kA yAdadAzta kA anubhava Apako nahIM hotA? praznakartA : hotA hai| dAdAzrI : kaI bAra to ghaMToM taka bhI ThikAnA nahIM pdd'taa| aba niyama aisA hai ki ekAgratA se AvaraNa TUTate haiN| jo AvaraNa Adhe ghaMTe kA ho, vaha ekAgratA se pA~ca minaTa meM khatma ho jaae|

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[15] upayoga sahita vahIM para 'jAgRti', upayoga rahita vaha 'mikenikala' praznakartA : 'mikenikala' aura 'jAgRtipUrvaka', ina donoM ke bIca kA pharka smjhaaie| dAdAzrI : pUrA jagat nIMda meM cala rahA hai| vaha saba 'mikenikala' (bhautika kI tarapha jhukAvavAlA) kahalAtA hai| use bhAvanidrA kahA hai| ye saba bhAvanidrAvAle, 'mikenikala' kahe jaaeNge| aba hara eka vyakti usake khuda ke vyApAra meM, fAyade-nukasAna meM jAgRta hai yA nahIM? yAnI jaba vyavasAya karatA hai taba usameM jAgRtipUrvaka rahatA hai, aura basa meM baiThate samaya manuSya jAgRta rahatA hai yA nahIM? vahA~ para 'mikenikala' nahIM hotA, jAgRtipUrvaka hotA hai| aba jagat ise jAgRtipUrvaka kahatA hai| vAstava meM to yaha bhI 'mikenikala' hI hai| faoNrena ke kAphI kucha loga 'mikenikala' hI kahalAte haiN| ye jAnavara-tiryaMca, ye sAre 'mikenikala' kahalAte haiM na! praznakartA : ye devI-devatA bhI 'mikenikala' kahalAe~ge na? dAdAzrI : devI-devatA 'mikenikala' nahIM khlaate| unheM jAgRti to hai| kacha devI-devatA to aise haiM ki jinheM aisA patA calatA hai ki khuda 'mikenikala' meM rahate haiN| isalie ve isase Uba jAte haiM ki aisI avasthA nahIM honI caahie| sabhI devI-devatA aise nahIM hote| unameM se kaIM to aise hote haiM ki basa masta hokara ghUmate rahate haiN| vaha 'mikenikala' kahalAtA

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110 AptavANI-6 praznakartA : ye bhajana gAte haiM, usa samaya khuda zabda bolatA hai lekina bhAva kahIM aura hoM to vaha kyA kahalAtA hai? dAdAzrI : vaha saba 'mikenikala' kahalAtA hai| 'mikenikala' yAnI upayogarahita aura upayogapUrvaka kArya ho use jAgRti kahate haiN| upayoga do prakAra ke : eka zubha upayoga hotA hai aura dUsarA zuddha upayoga hotA hai| jagat meM zuddha upayoga nahIM hotA, paraMtu zubhAzubha upayoga hotA hai, aura kisI kA azuddha upayoga bhI hotA hai| isa azubha upayoga ko aura azuddha upayoga ko upayoga nahIM mAnA jaataa| zubha upayoga ko aura zuddha upayoga ko hI upayoga mAnA jAtA hai| anya (azubha aura azuddha ko) to sirpha pahacAnane ke lie hI upayoga kahA jAtA hai ki yaha kisa prakAra kA upayoga hai| azubha upayoga aura azuddha upayoga, ve saba 'mikenikala' haiM aura zubha upayoga meM aMza jAgRti hotI hai| isa bhava kA aura parabhava kA hita kisameM hai, aisI jAgRti rahatI hai| khuda ke ghara ke bAre meM, vyavasAya ke bAre meM, anya kisI cIz2a ke bAre meM jAgRti hotI hai, paraMtu vaha jAgRti utane meM hI baratatI hai| aura bAkI saba jagaha sotA hai| paraMtu vAstava meM isa jAgRti ko bhI 'mikenikala' hI kahA jAtA hai| 'mikenikala' kaba chUTatA hai? khuda kA hita aura ahita, donoM niraMtara jAgRti meM raheM, taba 'mikenikala' chUTatA hai| praznakartA : lekina dAdA! hita aura ahita, donoM bhautika meM samAte haiM na? dAdAzrI : aisA nahIM hai, zubhamArga meM bhI jAgRti kahA jAtA hai| paraMtu vaha kaba? isa bhava meM aura parabhava meM lAbhakArI ho vaisA zubha ho, taba use jAgRti kahate hai| nahIM to vo dAna de rahA ho, sevA kara rahA ho, paraMtu Age kI jAgRti use kucha bhI nahIM hotii| jAgRtipUrvaka sabhI kriyAe~ kare to agale janma kA hita hogA, nahIM to sabakucha nIMda meM hI calA jaaegaa| yaha dAna diyA, vaha saba nIMda meM gayA! jAgate hue cAra Ane bhI jAe~ to

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AptavANI-6 111 bahuta ho gayA! ye dAna dete haiM aura bhItara yahA~ kI kIrti kI icchA hotI ho to vaha saba nIMda meM gyaa| parabhava ke hita ke lie yahA~ para jo dAna diyA jAtA hai, vaha jAgRta kahalAtA hai| hitAhita kA bhAna arthAt 'khuda kA hita kisameM hai aura khuda kA ahita kisameM hai' usa anusAra jAgRti rahe, vaha! agale janma kA koI ThikAnA nahIM ho aura yahA~ dAna de, use jAgRta kisa taraha kahA jAegA? yaha to eka-eka zabda yadi samajhe, artha hI samajhe, 'phula Dephinezana' samajhe, to vItarAgoM ke zabda aise haiM ki kalyANa ho jAe! zuddha upayoga kA abhyAsa svarUpa jJAna kI prApti ke bAda Apako kyA karanA hai? Apako aba upayoga rakhanA hai| abhI taka AtmA kA 'DAyarekTa' zuddha upayoga thA hI nhiiN| prakRti jaise nacAtI thI, vaise Apa nAcate the, aura phira kahate ho ki 'maiM nAcA! maiMne yaha dAna kiyA, maiMne aisA kiyA, vaisA kiyA, itanI sevA kI!' aba Apako AtmA prApta ho gayA, isalie Apako upayoga meM rahanA hai| aba Apa puruSa bane haiM aura ApakI prakRti judA ho gaI hai| prakRti apanA kAma kie binA rahegI nahIM, vaha chor3egI nhiiN| aura Apako, puruSa ko, puruSArtha meM rahanA hai yAnI ki puruSa ko puruSArtha karanA hai| 'jJAnIpuruSa' ne AjJA dI hai, usameM rahanA hai| upayoga meM rahanA hai| upayoga arthAt kyA? yoM bAhara nikale aura yoM gadhe jA rahe hoM, kutte jA rahe hoM, billI jA rahI ho aura hama dekheM nahIM aura aise hI calate raheM, to apanA upayoga bekAra gayA kahA jaaegaa| usameM to upayoga rakhakara usameM AtmA dekhate-dekhate jAe~ to vaha zuddha upayoga khlaaegaa| aisA zuddha upayoga yadi koI eka ghaMTA rakhe to use indra kA avatAra milegA, itanI adhika qImatI vastu hai yaha! praznakartA : zuddha upayoga vyavahAra meM, vyavasAya meM raha sakatA hai kyA?

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112 AptavANI-6 dAdAzrI : vyavahAra kA aura zuddha upayoga kA lenA-denA nahIM hai| vyApAra kara rahe hoM yA aura kucha bhI karate hoM, lekina svarUpa kA jJAna prApta karane ke bAda, svayaM puruSa hone ke bAda zuddha upayoga raha sakatA hai| svarUpa jJAna kI prapti se pahale kisI ko zuddha upayoga nahIM raha sktaa| aba Apa zuddha upayoga rakha sakate haiN| praznakartA : yAnI gadhe ko hama paramAtmA kI taraha dekheM, paramAtmA mAneM to..... dAdAzrI : nahIM, nhiiN| paramAtmA nahIM mAnanA hai, paramAtmA to bhItara baiThe haiM ve paramAtmA haiM aura bAhara baiThA hai, vaha gadhA hai| usa gadhe ke Upara borI rakhakara aura bhItaravAle paramAtmA ko dekhakara calanA hai| patnI meM paramAtmA dekhakara vyavahAra krnaa| varnA patnI se vivAha kiyA hai, to kyA saMnyAsI bana jAe~? ye javAna lar3ake kyA saMnyAsI bana jAe~? nahIM, nahIM, saMnyAsI nahIM bananA hai| bhItara bhagavAna dekho| bhagavAna kyA kahate haiM? 'mere darzana kro| mujhe aura koI pIr3A nahIM hai| mujhe koI harja nahIM hai| vyavahAra, vyavahAra meM baratatA hai, usameM Apa mujhe dekho, zuddha upayoga rkho|' praznakartA : pekiMga ko pIr3A hotI hai, usakA kyA? dAdAzrI : vaha pIr3A kisI ko bhI nahIM hotii| gadhe para boriyA~ rakho, phira bhI use pIr3A nahIM hotI aura nahIM rakho, taba bhI pIr3A nahIM hotii| gadhe ko to hama bahuta acchI taraha pahacAnate haiN| hama kAMTrekTara kA vyavasAya karate haiM, isalie hamAre yahA~ do sau-do sau gadhe kAma karane Ate haiN| aiseaise kAna girA dete hai, taba hama samajha jAte haiM ki itanA adhika vaz2ana uThAyA hai, phira bhI vaha apanI mastI meM hI hai! usakI mastI vaha jaane| Apako kyA patA cale vaha! upayoga jAgRti praznakartA : yaha rezama kA kIr3A hai, vaha mehanata karake kokUna

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AptavANI- -6 banAtA hai aura phira khuda hI usameM pha~satA hai ! phira bAhara nikalane ke lie kokUna kI mAyA kA chedana karanA par3atA hai| aba usake kitane leyarsa haiM? ye saba...... 113 dAdAzrI : leyarsa-veyarsa kucha bhI nahIM, sirpha ghabarAhaTa hI hai ! yaha maiMne Apako jJAna diyA na ! isalie aba Apa zuddhAtmA ho ge| isalie aba ye mana-vacana-kAyA aura 'caMdUbhAI' ke nAmakI jo-jo mAyA hai, vaha saba 'vyavasthita' ke tAbe meM hai / bhItara 'vyavasthita' preraNA degA / isalie Apako to 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' usI meM Apa raho, aura ina 'caMdUbhAI' kA kyA ho rahA hai, 'caMdUbhAI' kyA kara rahe haiM, vaha Apa dekhate rho| basa itanA ho gayA to 'Apa' pUrNa hue| donoM apane-apane kAma karate rheNge| 'caMdUbhAI' 'caMdUbhAI' kA kAma kreNge| usameM aba dakhala mata karo, yAnI Apa kokUna ke bAhara nikala ge| eka hI dina 'Apa' daqhala nahIM karo, to Apako samajha meM A jAegA ki 'ohoho ! maiM kokUna ke bAhara nikala gayA / ' eka hI dina ravivAra ko Apa yaha prayoga karake to dekho| Apane jo pA~ca (indriyoM ke) ghor3oM kI lagAma pakar3I hai, use chor3akara mujhe pakar3ane do na! phira Apa ArAma se ratha meM baiTho aura kahanA ki, 'dAdA, Apako jaise calAnA ho vaise calAie, hama to basa ArAma se baiThe haiM ! ' phira dekho, ApakA ratha gaDDhe meM nahIM giregaa| yaha to Apako calAnA nahIM AtA aura Apa use calAne jAte ho| isalie jaba 'slopa' (DhalAna ) Ae taba lagAma DhIlI rakha dete ho aura car3hAI para car3hanA ho to khIMcate rahate ho ! to yaha saba virodhAbhAsI hai| varnA maiMne jo AtmA diyA hai na, to usa kokUna ke bAhara Apa nikala hI gae ho ! lekina aba Apako upayoga seTa karanA pdd'egaa| arthAt AtmA Apako diyA hai, paraMtu AtmA kA upayoga aisI vastu hai ki slipa hone kA upayoga to sahaja hI rahatA hai use ! yAnI yaha upayoga seTa karanA hai / usake lie khuda ko jAgRti rakhanI par3egI, puruSArtha karanA pdd'egaa| kyoMki khuda puruSa bana gayA hai !

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114 AptavANI-6 aba slipa hone kA upayoga kise kahate hai? eka milamAlika seTha the| ve mere sAtha bhojana karane baitthe| usakI vAipha sAmane Akara baiTha gii| maiMne kahA, 'kyoM Apa aise sAmane Akara baiThI haiM?' taba seThAnI ne kahA, 'ye sIdhI taraha se bhojana nahIM krte| to Aja Apa Aye haiM, to z2arA sIdhI taraha khAe~, isalie maiM baiThI hU~!' taba seTha ne kahA, 'uTha, uTha, tU to beaqla hai|' maiM samajha gayA saba ki 'seTha kaise hoNge'| maiMne seTha se kahA, 'seThAnI Apake hita ke lie kaha rahI haiN| Apa sIdhI taraha se bhojana karo to ApakA zarIra acchA rhegaa| ulTA use beaqla kahakara kisalie dhamakA rahe ho?' taba seTha ne kahA ki 'usakI bAta to ThIka hai| maiM jaba khAnA khAne baiThatA hU~, taba merA citta mila meM rahatA hai, vahA~ sekreTarI ke sAtha bAteM karatA rahatA haiM aura yahA~ para yaha zarIra khAtA rahatA hai!' ise, slipa ho cukA upayoga kahA jAtA hai| phira maiMne seTha se kahA, "seTha, yaha ApakA upayoga slipa ho gyaa| usase kyA hogA jAnate ho? jaba citta 'ebasenTa' ho usa samaya yadi Apa bhojana karo, to 'hArTaphela' ke sAdhana utpanna hoMge!' bhojana karate samaya kabhI bhI citta 'ebasenTa' nahIM rakhanA cAhie!" taba seTha ne kahA, "merA citta 'ebasenTa' hI rahatA hai, mujhe koI rAstA btaaie|" usake bAda maiMne unheM rAstA batAyA ki kaise citta hAz2ira raha sakatA hai|' aba usa seTha ko paise ginane ko die hoM, taba kyA hogA? praznakartA : bhojana karanA bhI bhUla jaaegaa| dAdAzrI : usa samaya usakA upayoga paise ginane meM hI rhegaa| eka baniye ke beTe ko naukarI meM chaha sau kI tanaqhvAha milatI thii| usase maiMne pUchA ki, 'tanaqhvAha meM eka-eka ke noTa tujhe deM to tU kyA karegA?' taba usane kahA ki, 'maiM ginakara lU~gA!' 'are, chaha sau noTa tU kaba ginegA? isakA aMta kaba AegA?' itane meM koI zikArI ho, to vaha aise jhapaTakara calatA banegA, aura ye rupaye ginane meM tU upayoga rakhe to, terA kitanA TAima bigar3e? bahuta huA to pA~ca rupaye kama nikaleMge, aura kyA hogA? aura ye loga kama noTa deMge hI nahIM na! saba gina-ginakara lete haiM, aisA ve jAnate

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AptavANI-6 115 haiN| apane jaise puNyazAlI to koI hI hoMge ki jo binA gine leN| isalie apanA to aise ke aise hI nikala jaaegaa| isameM TAima kauna vesTa kare? taba usane kahA ki, 'pA~ca-pA~ca paise hoM, taba bhI maiM ginakara lU~gA!' dhanyabhAga haiM inake! aise upayoga vyartha jAtA hai, slipa ho jAtA hai| yadi zuddhAtmA meM upayoga hogA to vaha sabhI jagaha para helpa kregaa| khAe~, pIe~, vyavasAya kareM, una sabhI jagaha para 'helpa' hogii| kyoMki AtmA (pratiSThita) isameM aura kucha nahIM karatA, sirpha daqhala hI karatA rahatA hai| daqhala kA artha kyA hotA hai? koI pUche ki 'dahI kisa taraha banatA hai? vaha mujhe sikhAie, mujhe banAnA hai|' to maiM use tarIkA batAU~ ki dUdha garama karake, ThaMDA krnaa| phira usameM eka cammaca dahI DAlakara hilaanaa| phira DhaMkakara ArAma se so jAnA, phira kucha bhI mata krnaa| aba vaha rAta ko do baje 'yUrina' ke lie uThA ho, taba vApasa aMdara rasoI meM jAkara dahI meM u~galI DAlakara hilAkara dekhatA hai ki dahI bana rahA hai yA nahIM? ise daqhala karanA kahate haiM, aura usase subaha dahI meM gar3abar3a ho jAtI hai! isI taraha isa saMsAra meM gar3abar3a karake loga jIte haiM! AtmA kA upayoga nahIM haTane denA, usI ko upayoga jAgRti kahate haiN| upayoga kise kahate hai? mAna lo Der3ha mIla taka donoM tarafa samudra ho aura bIca meM eka hI AdamI cala sake, utane saMkare pula para se Apako calane ko kahA ho to usa samaya jo jAgRti rakhate ho, use upayoga kahate haiN| aba usa ghar3I yadi baiMka kA vicAra Ae ki itanI rakama bacI hai aura itanI bharanI hai, to use turaMta hI eka tarafa dhakela detA hai aura jAgRti ko pula para calane ke lie hI 'konsenTreTa' karatA hai! zAstrakAroM ne kahA hai ki khAte samaya, pIte samaya upayoga rakho, hara eka kAma karate samaya upayoga meM rho| upayoga arthAt khAte samaya anya kucha bhI nahIM ho| citta ko hAz2ira rakhanA, vaha upayoga hai| samudra donoM tarafa ho, vahA~ para citta ko hAz2ira rakhegA yA nahIM rakhegA? choTe bacce bhI khela ko eka tarafa rakhakara jAgRta ho jAe~ge! ve bhI bahuta pakke hote haiM!

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116 AptavANI-6 kisI dehadhArI ko upayoga nahIM ho, aisA nahIM ho sktaa| paise ginate samaya Apa dekha aanaa| usa ghar3I bahU AI ho, beTI AI ho to bhI vaha unheM dekhatA hai, lekina use naz2ara nahIM aataa| vaha patnI kahatI hai ki, 'Apa paise gina rahe the taba hama Ae the, phira bhI hama Apako nahIM dikhe?' taba vaha kahatA hai ki, 'nahIM, merA lakSya nahIM thA!' A~kheM dekheM phira bhI dikhe nahIM, vaha upayoga! abhI bhI hamArA zuddhAtmA meM upayoga hai| Apake sAtha bAteM kara rahA hU~ yA bhale hU kucha bhI kara rahA hU~, lekina hamArA upayoga meM upayoga rahatA hai! ye mana-vacana-kAyA unakA kArya karate haiM, vahA~ para bhI upayoga meM upayoga rakhA jA sakatA hai| Apako khuda ko to jitanA rahe utanA tthiik| nahIM rahe to thor3e hI koI surasAgara meM (bar3audA kA tAlAba) giranA cAhie? apanA yaha surasAgara tAlAba DhU~r3hane kA dhaMdhA nahIM hai| AtmA aura yaha prakRti donoM hI alaga haiM, svabhAva se alaga haiN| saba taraha se alaga haiN| saMsAra meM AtmA bilkula bhI upayoga meM nahIM aataa| sirpha AtmA kA prakAza hI upayoga meM AtA rahatA hai| vaha prakAza nahIM ho to yaha prakRti bilkula bhI calegI hI nhiiN| yaha prakAza hai, to yaha sArI prakRti cala rahI haiM, bAkI AtmA isameM kucha bhI nahIM krtaa|

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[16] bAta ko sIdhI samajha jAo na! praznakartA : cAritra kise kahate hai? dAdAzrI : 'jJAtA-dRSTA' rahA, utanA hI bhAga cAritra kahalAtA hai| 'caMdUbhAI' ko Apa dekhate hI raho, caMdUbhAI kA mana kyA karatA hai, mana meM kyA-kyA vicAra Ate haiM, usakI vANI kyA bola rahI hai! una sabako 'Apa' dekhate hI rho| ye bAhara saba kauna-kauna milate haiM! ve sthUla sNyog| phira mana meM sUkSma saMyoga aura vANI ke saMyoga, una sabako Apa dekhate raho, vaha Apake AtmA kA svabhAva hai aura vahI cAritra kahalAtA hai ! usameM dekhanA-jAnanA aura paramAnaMda meM rahanA hotA hai aura duniyA kA bhrA~ti kA svabhAva kyA hai ki dekhanA-jAnanA aura du:khAnaMda meM rahanA! du:kha aura AnaMda, duHkha aura AnaMda una donoM kA miksacara! praznakartA : rAga-dveSa kisa taraha se jAe~ge? dAdAzrI : 'dehAdhyAsa' hai, taba taka rAga-dveSa haiM, 'dehAdhyAsa' miTA ki rAga-dveSa gae! 'dehAdhyAsa' arthAt 'yaha deha maiM hU~, yaha vANI maiM bolatA hU~, yaha mana merA hai,' vaha dehaadhyaas| ApakA yaha saba calA gayA, yAnI dehAdhyAsa gayA aura 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' vaha bhAna rahA to phira vItarAga khlaaegaa| phira bhI jo rAga-dveSa dikhate haiM, ve to hote hI raheMge, use bhagavAna ne cAritramoha kahA hai| mUla moha, dRSTimoha khatma ho gyaa| jo ulTA hI cala rahA thA, vaha aba sIdhA calane lgaa| dRSTi sIdhI ho gii| paraMtu pahale ke jo pariNAma haiM, vaha moha, pariNAmI moha to abhI aaegaa| use vartana moha kahate haiN| loga

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AptavANI-6 Apako dikhAte bhI haiM ki yaha ApameM moha bharA huA hai aura Apako unheM hai 'hA~' kahanA par3atA I 118 yahA~ para Aja bhagavAna khuda Ae hoM aura koI pUche ki bhagavAna ! ye 'mahAtmA' AlU kI sabz2I kyoM bAra - bAra mA~gate rahate haiM? kyA inakA yaha moha gayA nahIM hai? taba bhagavAna unheM kyA kaheMge, patA hai? bhagavAna kaheMge, "yaha moha hai, lekina yaha cAritramoha hai, 'DiscArja' moha hai / unakI aisI icchA nahIM hai, paraMtu A par3A hai, isalie yaha sArA moha utpanna ho rahA hai aura yaha khA lene ke bAda unheM aisA kucha bhI nahIM rahegA !" khAne meM z2arA vizeSatA huI, vaha 'cAritramoha' hai| aura sirpha bhUkha ke lie hI khAyA, use cAritramoha nahIM kahA jaataa| bhUkha ke lie khAne se pahale kahe ki, 'sabz2I lAo, caTanI lAo', to hama nahIM samajha jAe~ge ki isakA moha hai ? aura khAtekhAte dAla z2arA bacA lI ho to vaha bhI cAritramoha hai / hama unheM pUcheM ki yaha dAla kyoM nahIM khAI ? taba ve kahate haiM ki, 'nahIM, z2arA ThIka nahIM lagI / ' vaha bhI eka prakAra kA moha hI hai na? khAnA rahane diyA vaha bhI moha aura adhika khA gayA, vaha bhI moha / aura jise rAga-dveSa nahIM haiM, koI moha nahIM hai, usake sAmane to jo bhI Ae, vaha le letA hai / dUsarI kucha jhaMjhaTa hI nahIM rahatI, use to moha nahIM khte| paraMtu isa moha kI qImata nahIM hai / yaha moha to lAkhoM mana (vaz2ana) kA hotA hai, lekina yaha moha nikAlI moha hone kI vajaha se isakI koI qImata hI nahIM hai | darzanamoha jAne ke bAda, jo moha bacatA hai, vaha caaritrmoh| usakI koI qImata hI nahIM hai, vaha 'DiscArja moha' hai aura jisakA darzanamoha abhI taka gayA nahIM hai, aise bar3e tyAgI hoM, paraMtu ve yadi kabhI z2arA sI sabz2I adhika mA~ga leM, to bhI usa moha kI bahuta qImata hai ! 'are, bhAI, hama roz2a adhika sabz2I mA~gate haiM, phira bhI hameM kucha nahIM milatA aura inheM eka dina meM hI itanA sabakucha mila gayA?' taba kahe, 'hA~, eka dina meM bahuta bhayaMkara doSa laga jAte haiM', kyoMki

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AptavANI-6 vaha to sacamuca meM moha hai, isalie eka dina meM hI pUre tyAga kA phala calA jAtA hai aura svarUpajJAnI 'mahAtmAoM ko' bhale hI kitanA bhI moha ho, phira bhI unakA kucha bhI nahIM bigar3atA! isa bAta ko samajhanA hI hai| yaha cAritramoha bahuta-bahuta sUkSma cIz2a hai| zarIra ke poSaNa ke lie hI khurAka lenaa| usameM loga aisA nahIM kahate ki isa bhAI ne moha kiyA hai, lekina usameM taraha-taraha kI caTaniyA~, acAra vagairaha saba le, Ama kA rasa le, use jagat aisA kahatA hai ki 'ApameM moha hai|' are! mujhe bhI kahate haiM na! maiM Ama, acAra, caTanI khAtA hU~, taba mujhe bhI kahate haiN| lekina vaha vartana moha hai, usakA hama nikAla karate haiN| nikAla kiyA isalie phira se utpanna nahIM hogaa| jo pahale ke 'DiscArja' ke rUpa meM thA, vaha jA rahA hai| praznakartA : loga use qabUla nahIM kreNge| dAdAzrI : loga use samajhate bhI nahIM, ve to ise moha kI taraha hI dekhate haiN| mahAvIra bhagavAna usa moha ko hI dekhate the| moha to, kapar3e pahananA bhI moha hai aura naMge phiranA bhI moha hai| donoM hI moha haiN| lekina 'DiscArja' moha hai| pahale 'maiM caMdUbhAI hU~' mAnakara ulTA hI calatA rahatA thA, vaha aba sIdhA huaa| usakI pUrI dRSTi sudhara gii| isalie aMdara nae moha kA jaththA utpanna nahIM hotaa| paraMtu purAnA moha hai, usake pariNAma Ate haiM, unheM bhugate bagaira to cArA hI nahIM hai| praznakartA : yAnI ki dRSTimoha se cAritramoha utpanna huA, aisA? dAdAzrI : dRSTimoha aura cAritramoha, ye donoM moha eka ho jAe~ taba use 'ajJAnamoha' kahA jAtA hai| pUrA hI jagat usa moha meM hI pha~sA hai na? inameM se eka so jAe to dUsare kA hala A jAegA, aisA kahate hai| yaha dRSTimoha jAe to basa pUrA ho gyaa| phira cAritramoha kI qImata cAra Ane bhI nahIM hai| praznakartA : paraMtu kramika mArga meM usa cAritramoha ko koI bhI pratijJA lekara, ahaMkAra karake nikAla dete hai na?

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120 AptavANI-6 dAdAzrI : dRSTimoha jAnA cAhie, tabhI jo bAkI bacA, vaha cAritramoha mAnA jaaegaa| arthAt cAritramoha kaba kahalAegA? darzanamoha TUTane para moha kA vibhAjana ho jAtA hai| usameM se eka bhAga khatma ho gayA aura jo dUsarA bhAga bacA, vaha cAritramoha, 'DiscArja' moha hai| yadi svarUpa kA bhAna ho jAe to 'cArja' moha khatma ho jAtA hai| yaha 'cArja' moha hI hAnikAraka hai| 'cArja' moha kA artha hI drshnmoh| praznakartA : paraMtu loga to DiscArja moha ko nikAlane ke lie mAthApaccI karate haiM na? dAdAzrI : nhiiN| DiscArja moha ko to ve loga samajhate hI nhiiN| jagat to use hI 'moha' kahatA hai| 'DiscArja' moha ko nikAlane ke lie dUsarA moha khar3A kiyA hai, usI kA nAma 'kramika maarg|' yAnI hama kucha alaga kahanA cAhate hai ki isa pIr3A meM kisa lie utarate ho? sIdhI bAta samajha jAo na? yadi sIdhA samajhoge to hala aaegaa| taba ve kahate haiM ki sIdhA samajhAnevAle koI hoM, taba sIdhA samajheMge na? jahA~ sIdhA samajhAnevAle haiM hI nahIM, vahA~ kyA hogA? varnA jJAna to thA hI na, lekina jahA~ jJAnI nahIM hote, vahA~ kyA ho sakatA hai? Apa saba ye laDDU-pUr3I khAte ho, to maiM kisI ko DA~Tane AtA hU~? maiM jAnatA hU~ ki yaha apane moha kA nikAla kara rahA hai| praznakartA : aise bhI Apa kahA~ kisI ko DA~Tate haiM? dAdAzrI : yaha DA~Tane jaisA hai hI nhiiN| sabhI nikAla kara rahe haiM, vahA~ kyA DA~TanA? darzanamoha ho aura vaha ulTA cala rahA ho, taba to DA~TanA pdd'egaa| praznakartA : kisI kA DiscArja moha dekhakara aisI preraNA lI ki 'maiM isase bhI adhika acchA karU~', aise moha meM utara par3e, to vaha kauna sA moha hai? dAdAzrI : vaha bhI sArA DiscArja moha hI kahalAtA hai| hameM aisA

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AptavANI-6 121 dikhatA hai ki isane kucha nayA kiyA hai, lekina vaha karatA nahIM hai| vaha jo kucha bhI nayA karatA hai vaha bhI DiscArja moha hai| yaha hamArI 'sAinTiphika' khoja hai| yadi samajhe to hala lA sakeM, aisA hai| eka janma meM karor3oM janmoM ke pariNAmoM kA nAza ho jAe, aisA hai! praznakartA : paraMtu isa DiscArja moha kA aMta kaba AegA? dAdAzrI : jaba taka yaha deha hai, taba taka DiscArja moha rhegaa| aura merI AjJA kA pAlana kiyA hai, usase dUsarA moha utpanna kiyA hai, vaha eka janma ke lie Apake kAma aaegaa|

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[17] karmaphala-lokabhASA meM, jJAnI kI bhASA meM praznakartA : sabakucha yahIM ke yahIM bhugatanA hai, aisA kahate haiN| vaha kyA hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, bhugatanA yahIM ke yahIM hai, paraMtu vaha isa jagat kI bhASA meN| alaukika bhASA meM isakA kyA artha hai? pichale janma meM ahaMkAra kA, mAna kA karma ba~dhA ho, to isa janma meM unake sAre bilDiMga banate haiM, to phira usase vaha mAnI banatA hai| kisa lie mAnI banatA hai? karma ke hisAba se vaha mAnI banatA hai| aba mAnI banA, use jagat ke loga kyA kahate haiM ki, 'yaha karma bA~dha rahA hai, yaha aisA mAna lekara ghUmatA rahatA hai|' jagat ke loga ise karma kahate haiN| jaba ki bhagavAna kI bhASA meM yaha karma kA phala AyA hai| phala arthAt yadi mAna nahIM karanA ho, phira bhI karanA hI par3atA hai, ho hI jAtA hai| __ aura jagata ke loga jise kahate haiM ki yaha krodha karatA hai, mAna karatA hai, ahaMkAra karatA hai, aba usakA phala yahIM para bhugatanA par3atA hai| mAna kA phala yahIM para kyA AtA hai ki apakIrti phailatI haiM, apayaza phailatA hai| vaha yahIM para bhugatanA par3atA hai| yaha mAna kareM, usa samaya yadi mana meM aisA rahe ki yaha galata ho rahA hai, aisA nahIM honA cAhie, hameM nirmAnI banane kI z2arUrata hai, aise bhAva hoM to vaha nayA karma bA~dhatA hai| usake kAraNa agale janma meM phira vaha nirmAnI banatA hai| karma ki thyorI aisI hai! galata hote samaya bhItara bhAva badala jAe~ to nayA karma usa taraha kA ba~dhatA hai| aura galata kare aura Upara se khuza

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AptavANI-6 123 ho ki, 'aisA hI karanA caahie|' to phira se nayA karma maz2abUta ho jAtA hai, nikAcita ho jAtA hai| use phira bhoganA hI pdd'egaa| pUrA sAinsa hI samajhane jaisA hai| vItarAgoM kA vijJAna bahuta guhya hai| pariNAma meM samatA apane 'akrama' kA siddhAMta aisA hai ki paise gira rahe hoM, to pahale girane baMda karo aura phira jo pahale gira cuke haiM, ve bIna lenA! jagat to bInatA hI rahatA hai| are jo gira rahe haiM pahale unheM to baMda kara, nahIM to nikAla hI nahIM hogA! AtmA ke alAvA bAkI kA saba kyA hai? vyavahAra hai| vaha vyavahAra parAzrita hai| Apake hAtha meM itanA sA bhI nahIM hai| loga parAzrita ko svAzrita mAnate haiM, eka ne mAnA, dUsare ne mAnA isalie khuda ne bhI mAna liyaa| phira isase saMbaMdhita koI vicAra hI nahIM aataa| eka bAra roga ghusa gayA, to phira nikale kisa taraha? phira to yaha saMsAra roga bar3hakara 'kronika' ho gyaa| jaba roga 'kronika' nahIM huA thA, taba nahIM nikala paayaa| vaha aba 'kronika' hone ke bAda kisa taraha nikalegA? yaha vijJAna milegA taba chuuttegaa| ApakA jitanA bhI vyavahAra hai, yadi vaha saba pUrA kara diyA, taba phira Apako vyavahAra se saMbaMdhita bahuta muzkila nahIM aaegii| bhItara jaisI bhAvanA ho vaha saba pahale se taiyAra hotA hai! 'vihAra leka' para ghUmane gae the, vahA~ mujhe nayA hI vicAra AyA ki ye sau loga-pacAsa striyA~ aura pacAsa puruSa sabhI milakara mAtAjI kA garabA kareM to kitanA acchA ! to isa vicAra ke sAtha jaise hI ghUmakara aise dekhane gayA, to vahA~ to saba aise khar3e ho cuke the aura garabA karane lage! aba isake lie maiMne kisI se kahA nahIM thA, phira bhI ho gayA! yAnI aisA hotA hai! ApakA socA huA bekAra nahIM jAtA, bolanA bekAra nahIM jaataa| abhI to logoM kA kaisA hai? kucha phalita hI nahIM hotaa| vANI bhI phalita nahIM hotI, vicAra bhI nahIM phalate aura vartana bhI nahIM phltaa| tIna bAra ugAhI ke lie dhakke khAe, phira bhI denadAra nahIM milatA! lekina agara kabhI mila jAe, to vaha gussA karatA rahatA hai!

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AptavANI-6 isameM to kaisA hai ki ghara baiThe paise lauTAne Ae aisA mArga hai ! pA~casAta bAra ugAhI ke lie cakkara kATane para bhI vaha nahIM mileM, aura aMta meM mile taba vaha kahatA hai ki eka mahIne bAda AnA / usa ghar3I Apake pariNAma nahIM badaleM, to ghara baiThe paisA AegA ! 124 Apake pariNAma badala jAte haiM na? 'yaha beakla hai, nAlAyaka hai, cakkara bekAra gyaa|' vgairh| yAnI Apake pariNAma badale hue hote haiM / phira se Apa jAo taba vaha Apako gAliyA~ detA hai / mere pariNAma nahIM badalate, phira kyA ciMtA? pariNAma badala jAe~, to vaha bigar3anevAlA nahIM hogA, phira bhI bigdd'egaa| I bAgha hiMsaka hai yA bilIfa ? praznakartA : isakA artha yahI hai ki hama bigAr3ate haiM? dAdAzrI : apanA sabakucha hama hI bigAr3ate haiM / hameM jitanI ar3acaneM AtI haiM, ve saba hamArI hI bigAr3I huI haiM / koI Ter3hA ho to use sudhArane kA rAstA kyA hai? taba kahe ki 'sAmanevAlA cAhe kitanA bhI duHkha de rahA ho, phira bhI usake lie ulTA vicAra taka nahIM Ae', vaha use sudhArane kA rAstA! isase apanA bhI sudharatA hai aura usakA bhI sudharatA hai ! jagat ke logoM ko ulTA vicAra Ae bagaira rahatA nahIM / aura hamane to 'samabhAva se nikAla' karane ko kahA hai, 'samabhAva se nikAla' yAnI usake lie koI bhI vicAra nahIM karanA hai| yadi bAgha ke pratikramaNa kareM to bAgha bhI apane kahe anusAra kAma kregaa| bAgha meM aura manuSya meM koI pharka nahIM hai| pharka Apake spaMdana kA hai| unakA asara hotA hai / 'bAgha hiMsaka hai' jaba taka Apake mana meM aisA dhyAna rahe, taba taka vaha hiMsaka hI rahatA hai aura bAgha 'zuddhAtmA hai' aisA dhyAna rahe to, vaha zuddhAtmA hI hai / sabhIkucha ho sake, aisA hai| isa baoNla ko pheMkane ke bAda apane Apa svabhAva se hI pariNAma baMda ho jaaeNge| vaha sahaja svabhAva hai / vahA~ para pUre jagat kI mehanata bekAra

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AptavANI-6 125 gaI! jagat pariNAma ko baMda karane jAtA hai aura kaoNz2ez2a calate hI rahate hai! isalie phira bar3a meM se bIja aura bIja meM se bar3a banate hI rahate haiN| pattiyA~ kATane se dina nahIM bdleNge| use to, mUla sahita nikAla deMge, taba kAma hogaa| hama to usake mukhya jar3a meM z2arA davAI DAla dete haiM, to pUrA per3a sUkha jAtA hai| yaha saMsAravRkSa kahalAtA hai| isa ora kar3ave phala Ate haiM, isa ora mIThe phala Ate haiN| ve vApasa khuda ko hI khAne par3ate haiN| eka bAra Ama para baMdara Ae~ aura Ama tor3a deM, to mAlika ke pariNAma kahA~ taka bigar3ate haiM? pariNAma itane adhika bigAr3ate haiM ki AgepIche kA soce binA bola detA hai ki, 'yaha Ama kA per3a kATa deMge tabhI ThIka rahegA!' aba yaha to bhagavAna kI sAkSI meM bAta nikalI, vaha kyA bekAra jAegI? pariNAma nahIM bigar3eMge to kucha bhI nahIM hogaa| sabakucha zAMta ho jaaegaa| baMda ho jAegA! bhAva aura icchA kI utpatti praznakartA : bhAva aura icchA meM kyA pharka hai? dAdAzrI : isa jagat meM jo dikhatA hai, use loga bhAva kahate haiN| bhAva to kisI ko dikhate hI nhiiN| khuda ko bhI patA nahIM calatA ki kyA bhAva kiyA? praznakartA : yaha jJAna milane ke bAda hameM bahuta sAre bhAva hote haiM, to unase karma 'cArja' nahIM hoMge? dAdAzrI : bhAva Apako hoMge hI kisa taraha? 'Apa' vApasa phira se 'caMdUbhAI' bana jAoge, to bhAva hoNge| yadi Apa 'caMdUbhAI' bana jAoge taba ahaMkAra hogA, usake bAda bhAva hogaa| maiM kartA hU~' aisA bhAna rahe, tabhI bhAva hogaa| praznakartA : aura ye jo icchAe~ hotI haiM, vaha kartApana nahIM hai?

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126 AptavANI-6 dAdAzrI : nahIM, aba ApakI sabhI icchAe~, asta hotI huI icchAe~ kahalAtI haiN| icchA to mujhe bhI hotI hai ! bAraha baja gae hoM, to maiM bhI aise rasoI kI tarafa dekhane jAtA hU~, taba Apa nahIM samajha jAoge ki dAdAjI kI koI icchA hai! vaha bhI asta hotI huI icchA kahalAtI hai ! palabhara ke bAda ve sabhI icchAe~ asta ho jaaeNgii| ve ugatI huI icchAe~ nahIM kahalAtIM! ve sabhI nikAlI bAbata kahalAtI haiM / praznakartA : kAma kareM aura bIca meM icchA Ae to usa hara eka bAra kauna sA 'TesTa' 'aplAi' kareM ki jisase patA cala jAe ki ye 'DiscArja' icchAe~ haiM aura ye 'cArja' icchAe~ haiM ? dAdAzrI : Apa 'caMdUbhAI' bana jAoge tabhI 'cArja' hogaa| isameM ulajhane kI koI z2arUrata hI nahIM hai / yaha to vijJAna hai! apanA 'akrama vijJAna' kahatA hai ki, saiddhAMtika bolanA tAki phira se cUMthAmaNa (bArabAra sahI kyA aura galata kyA para socakara ulajhanA) nahIM karanI pdd'e| phira se cUMthAmaNa karanA par3e, usakA artha hI kyA? I I logoM ne mAna liyA hai ki AtmA ko icchA hotI hai / phira vApasa aisA kahate hai ki merI icchA baMda ho gaI / icchAe~ yadi AtmA kA guNa ho to phira kisI kI baMda hoMgI hI nahIM na ! yaha to vizeSa pariNAma hai ! isake bAvajUda bhI AtmA vItarAga rahA hai! logoM ko usakA patA hI nahIM hai / ve to aisA hI kahate haiM ki merA AtmA hI aisA bigar3a gayA hai, merA AtmA pApI hai, rAgI-dveSI hai| aba kucha loga AtmA ko zuddha hI kahate haiM / ve phira dUsarI taraha se mAra khAte haiN| AtmA zuddha hI hai, isalie kucha karanA hI nahIM hai| phira maMdira kyoM jAtA hai? pustakeM kyoM par3hatA hai? aba ye donoM hI bhaTaka mare haiN| AtmA vaisA nahIM hai| yaha bahuta hI sUkSma bAta hai / isIlie to sabhI zAstroM ne kahA hai ki, 'AtmajJAna jAno ! AtmA khuda hI paramAtmA hai !' rikaoNrDa kI gAliyoM se Apako gussA AtA hai? praznakartA : ye mana-vacana-kAyA para haiM aura parAdhIna hai, isalie 'vyavasthita' ke adhIna huA na?

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AptavANI- -6 dAdAzrI : hA~, 'vyavasthita' ke adhIna hai| AtmA ke adhIna nahIM, aisA hama kahanA cAhate haiM / 'para' arthAt terA nahIM hai aura 'parAdhIna' arthAt tere hAtha kA khela nahIM hai / terA nakkI kiyA huA isameM nahIM ho skegaa| 1 127 kisIne gAlI dI, to vaha parAdhIna hai / hama aisA kahate haiM, ki rikaoNrDa hai, usakA kyA kAraNa hai ki sAmanevAle ko gAlI dene kI zakti hI nahIM / vaha to 'vyavasthita' ke tAbe meM hai ! yAnI vAstava meM yaha 'rikArDa' hI hai, aura aisA samajha lo, phira Apako kyoM gussA AegA kyA? ' rikArDa' bola rahA ho ki 'caMdUbhAI kharAba hai, caMdUbhAI kharAba hai', to usase Apako gussA AegA? yaha to mana meM aisA lagatA hai ki, yaha 'usane' bolA isalie gussA AtA hai ! vAstava meM 'vaha' bolatA hI nahIM hai / vaha rikArDa bolatA hai aura vaha to, jo ApakA hai vahI Apako vApasa de rahA hai| kudarata kI kitanI acchI vyavasthA hai ! yaha bahuta hI samajhane jaisA hai| akrama vijJAna ne to sabhI bahuta acche spaSTIkaraNa de diye haiN| 'vyavasthita' kI to yaha nayI hI bAta hai ! akarma dazA kA vijJAna praznakartA : koI bhI galata kAma kareM, taba karma to ba~dheMge hI, aisA maiM mAnatA huuN| dAdAzrI : to acche karmoM kA baMdhana nahIM hai ? praznakartA : acche aura bure, donoM se karma ba~dhate haiM na? dAdAzrI : are ! abhI bhI Apa karma bA~dha rahe ho ! abhI Apa bahuta U~cA puNya kA karma bA~dha rahe ho ! paraMtu karma kabhI bhI ba~dhe hI nahIM, aisA dina nahIM AtA na? isakA kyA kAraNa hogA? praznakartA : kucha na kucha to kara hI rahe hoMge na, acchA yA burA? dAdAzrI : hA~, paraMtu karma nahIM ba~dhe, aisA rAstA nahIM hogA? bhagavAna mahAvIra kisa taraha karma bA~dhe bagaira chUTe hoMge ? yaha deha hai, to karma to

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AptavANI-6 hote hI raheMge! khAnA par3atA hai, saMDAsa jAnA par3atA hai, sabakucha nahIM karanA par3atA? 128 praznakartA : hA~, paraMtu jo karma bA~dhe hoMge, unake phala phira bhogane par3eMge na? dAdAzrI : karma bA~dhegA taba to phira agalA janma hue bagaira rahegA nahIM! yAnI karma bA~dheMge to agale janma meM jAnA par3egA ! lekina bhagavAna mahAvIra ko agale janma meM nahIM jAnA par3A thA ! to koI rAstA to hogA na? karma kareM, phira bhI karma nahIM ba~dhe, aisA? praznakartA : hogaa| dAdAzrI : Apako aisI icchA hotI hai ki karma nahIM ba~dhe? karma karane ke bAvajUda karma nahIM ba~dhe, aisA vijJAna hotA hai / vaha vijJAna jAno to mukta ho jAoge! na? karma bAdhaka nahIM.... praznakartA : apane karmoM ke phala ke kAraNa yaha janma milatA hai dAdAzrI : hA~, pUrI z2iMdagI karma ke phala bhogane haiM ! aura unameM se naye karma utpanna hote haiM, yadi rAga-dveSa kare to ! yadi rAga-dveSa nahIM kare to kucha bhI nhiiN| karma haiM usameM harja nahIM hai / karma to, yaha zarIra hai isalie hoMge hI, paraMtu rAga-dveSa karatA hai, usameM harja hai| vItarAga kyA kahate haiM ki vItarAga bano! isa jagat meM jo kucha bhI kAma karate ho, usameM kAma kI qImata nahIM hai| paraMtu usake pIche rAga- -dveSa hoM, tabhI agale janma kA hisAba ba~dhatA hai| yadi rAga-dveSa nahIM hote to z2immedAra nahIM hai ! pUrA deha, janma se maraNa taka anivArya hai| usameM se jo rAga-dveSa hote haiM, utanA hI hisAba ba~dhatA hai| isalie vItarAga kyA kahate haiM ki vItarAga hokara nikala jAo ! hameM to koI gAliyA~ de to hama samajha jAte haiM ki ye aMbAlAla paTela ko gAlI de rahe haiM, pudgala ko gAlI de rahe haiM / AtmA ko to ve jAna

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AptavANI-6 129 hI nahIM sakate, pahacAna hI nahIM sakate na! isalie 'hama' svIkAra nahIM krte| 'hameM' chUtA hI nahIM, hama vItarAga rahate haiM ! hameM usa para rAga-dveSa nahIM hote| isalie phira eka avatArI yA do avatArI hokara saba khatma ho jAegA! vItarAga itanA hI kahanA cAhate haiM ki karma bAdhaka nahIM haiN| terI ajJAnatA bAdhaka hai! deha hai taba taka karma to hote hI raheMge, paraMtu ajJAnatA jAegI to karma ba~dhane baMda ho jAe~ge!

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[18] 'sahaja' prakRti praznakartA : jJAniyoM kI sahaja prakRti kise kahate haiM? dAdAzrI : vicAra Ae~ paraMtu asara nahIM kareM, to prakRti sahaja kahalAtI hai| praznakartA : prakRti sahaja kisa taraha hogI aura kaba hogI? dAdAzrI : cAritra moha meM daqhala nahIM kareM, to prakRti sahaja hotI jaaegii| 'mUla' AtmA to sahaja hai hI, paraMtu prakRti sahaja ho jAegI, taba mokSa hogaa| ina puruSoM se to striyA~ adhika sahaja haiN| yahA~ kI striyoM se faoNrenavAle adhika sahaja haiM, aura unase bhI adhika ye jAnavara, pazu-pakSI, vagairaha sahaja haiN| praznakartA : ina sabakI sahajatA jJAna se hai yA ajJAnatA se? dAdAzrI : unakI sahajatA ajJAnatA se hai| ina gAyoM-bhaiMsoM kI sahajatA kaisI hai? gAya uchalakUda kare, sIMga mArane Ae, phira bhI vaha sahaja hai| sahaja arthAt jo prakRtika svabhAva hai, usameM tanmayAkAra rahanA, daqhala nahIM karanA, vaha ! paraMtu ye ajJAnatA se sahaja haiM! gAya ke bachar3e ko yadi pakar3ane jAe~ to usakI A~khoM meM khUba duHkha jaisI jalana dikhatI hai, isake bAvajUda vaha sahaja hai! isa sahaja prakRti meM jisa taraha 'mazIna' aMdara calatI rahatI hai, vaise hI, vaha khuda bhI mazIna kI taraha calatI hI rahatI hai| khuda ke hitAhita kA bilkula bhI bhAna nahIM

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AptavANI-6 131 rhtaa| mazIna aMdara hita dikhAe to hita karatI hai, ahita dikhA rahI ho to ahita karatI hai| kisI kA kheta dekhakara usameM ghusa jAtI hai| praznakartA : usameM ve koI bhAva nahIM karate na? dAdAzrI : unheM to kucha 'nikAla' karane kA hotA hI nahIM na ! vaha to unakA svabhAva hI aisA hai, sahaja svabhAva! unakA baccA cArachaha mahIne kA hone ke bAda phira calA jAtA hai, to unheM koI takalIpha nhiiN| unakI dekhabhAla cAra-chaha mahInoM taka hI rakhate haiN| aura apane loga to... praznakartA : marane taka rakhate haiN| dAdAzrI : nahIM, sAta pIr3hiyoM taka rakhate haiM! gAya, vaha bacce kI dekhabhAla chaha mahInoM taka rakhatI hai| ye faoNrena ke loga aThAraha varSa kA ho jAe taba taka rakhate haiM, aura apane hindustAna ke loga to sAta pIr3hiyoM taka rakhate haiN| arthAt sahaja vastu aisI hai ki usameM bilkula bhI jAgRti nahIM rhtii| bhItara se jo udaya meM AyA, usa udaya ke anusAra bhaTakanA, vaha sahaja kahalAtA hai| yaha laTTa ghUmatA hai, vaha U~cA hotA hai, nIcA hotA hai, kitanI bAra aise girane lagatA hai, eka iMca kUdatA bhI hai, taba hameM aisA lagatA hai ki 'are, girA, giraa|' taba to muA vApasa ghUmane lagatA hai, vaha sahaja kahalAtA hai! 'asahaja' kI pahacAna sahaja prakRti arthAt jaisA lapeTA huA ho usI taraha khulakara ghUmatA hai, dUsarA koI jhaMjhaTa nhiiN| ___ jJAnadazA kI sahajatA meM to, AtmA yadi isakA jJAtA-dRSTA rahe tabhI vaha sahaja ho skegaa| aura usameM hastakSepa kiyA ki vApasa bigar3a jaaegaa| 'aisA ho jAe to acchA, aisA nahIM ho to acchaa|' aise daqhala karane jAe ki asahaja ho jaaegaa|

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132 AptavANI-6 seTha kI dukAna kA divAliyA nikalanevAlA ho, phira bhI koI bhikSuka Ae, to seThAnI use sAr3I vagairaha detI hai, aura yaha seTha eka damar3I bhI nahIM detaa| seTha becAre ko aMdara hotA rahatA hai ki aba kyA hogA? kyA hogA? jaba ki seThAnI to ArAma se sAr3I-vAr3I detI hai, vaha sahaja prakRti kahalAtI hai| aMdara jaisA vicAra AyA vaisA kara detI hai| seTha ko to aMdara vicAra Ae, lAo do haz2Ara rupaye dharmadAna deM, to turaMta hI vApasa mana meM kahegA, aba divAliyA nikala rahA hai, kyA deM? chor3o na aba! vaha bAta ko ur3A detA hai! sahaja to, mana meM jaisA vicAra Ae vaisA hI karatA hai aura vaisA nahIM kare to bhI (pratiSThita) AtmA kI daqhala nahIM rahatI, to vaha sahaja hai! yaha 'jJAna' diyA huA ho, use gAr3I meM car3hate samaya kahA~ para jagaha hai aura kahA~ nahIM, aisA vicAra AtA hai| vahA~ sahaja nahIM rahA jaataa| aMdara khuda daqhala karatA hai| usake bAvajUda bhI isa 'jJAna' meM hI raho, 'AjJA' meM hI raho, to prakRti sahaja ho jaaegii| phira cAhe kaisA bhI hogA phira bhI, logoM ko sau gAliyA~ detA hogA phira bhI vaha prakRti sahaja hai, kyoMki hamArI AjJA meM rahA isalie khuda kI daqhala miTa gaI aura tabhI se prakRti sahaja hone laga gii| 'apanI' yaha sAmAyika karate ho, usa samaya bhI prakRti bilkula sahaja kahalAtI hai! ___ kramika mArga meM TheTha taka sahaja dazA nahIM ho paatii| vahA~ to, 'yaha tyAga karU~, yaha tyAga karU~, aisA karanA cAhie, aisA nahIM karanA caahie|' usakI parezAnI aMta taka rahatI hai! sahaja - asahaja - sahaja hindustAna ke loga asahaja haiM, isalie ciMtA adhika hai| krodhamAna-mAyA-lobha bar3ha gae, isalie ciMtA bar3ha gii| nahIM to koI mokSa meM jAe, aise nahIM haiN| aura kaheMge, hameM kahIM mokSa meM nahIM AnA hai, yahA~ bahuta acchA hai|' ina faoNrena ke logoM se kaheM ki, 'calo mokSa meN|' taba ve kaheMge, 'nahIM, nahIM, hameM mokSa kI koI z2arUrata nahIM hai!'

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AptavANI-6 133 praznakartA : yAnI aisA huA na ki sahajatA meM se asahajatA meM jAte haiN| phira vaha asahajatA 'TaoNpa' para jAtI hai| usake bAda phira mokSa kI tarapha jAte haiM? dAdAzrI : asahajatA meM 'TaoNpa' para jAte haiM, usake bAda phira pUrI jalana dekhate haiM, anubhava karate haiM, taba mokSa meM jAne kA nizcaya karate haiN| buddhi, AMtarika buddhi khUba bar3hanI caahie| faoNrena ke logoM kI bAhya buddhi hotI hai, ve sirpha bhautika kA hI dikhAtI hai| niyama kaisA hai, jaise -jaise AMtarika buddhi bar3hatI hai, vaise-vaise dUsare palar3e meM jalana khar3I hotI hai! praznakartA : 'TaoNpa' para kI asahajatA meM jAne ke bAda phira sahajatA meM Ane ke lie kyA karatA hai? dAdAzrI : phira rAstA DhU~Dha nikAlatA hai ki isameM sukha nahIM hai| ina striyoM meM sukha nahIM hai, baccoM meM sukha nahIM hai| paisoM meM bhI sukha nahIM hai| aise unakI bhAvanA badalatI hai ! ye faoNrena ke loga to strI meM sukha nahIM, baccoM meM sukha nahIM, aisA to koI kahegA hI nahIM na! vaha to, jaba usa taraha kI jalana khar3I ho, taba kahatA hai ki aba yahA~ se bhAgo ki jahA~ koI mukta hone kI jagaha hai| apane tIrthaMkara mukta ho cuke haiM vahA~ calo, hameM yaha nahIM pusaaegaa| praznakartA : yAnI usa samaya unakA bhAva badala jAnA cAhie, aisA? dAdAzrI : bhAva nahIM badaleMge, to hala hI nahIM AegA! ye loga jinAlaya meM jAte haiM, mahArAja ke pAsa jAte haiM, bhAva nahIM badaleMge to aise koI jAegA hI nahIM na! Aja pablika meM asahajatA kama ho cukI hai, to moha bar3hA huA hai| isalie unheM kisI cIz2a kI par3I hI nahIM hotii| caMcalatA, vahI asahajatA hai| ye faoNrena ke loga bAga meM baiThe hoM, to Adhe-Adhe ghaMTe taka hile-Dule bagaira baiThe rahate haiM! aura apane loga dharma kI jagaha para bhI hilate-Dulate rahate haiM! kyoMki AMtarika caMcalatA hai|

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134 AptavANI-6 faoNrena ke logoM kI caMcalatA breDa aura makkhana meM hotI hai| aura apane logoM kI caMcalatA sAta pIr3hI kI ciMtA meM hotI hai! (pratiSThita) AtmA sahaja ho jAegA, phira deha sahaja hogii| usake bAda phira hamAre jaisA mukta hAsya utpanna hogaa| aprayatna dazA prayAsa mAtra se sabakucha ulTA hotA hai| aprayAsa honA caahie| sahaja honA caahie| prayAsa huA isalie sahaja nahIM rhaa| sahajatA calI jAtI hai| sahaja bhAva meM buddhi kA upayoga nahIM hotaa| subaha bistara meM se uThe taba dAtuna karo, cAya pIo, nAztA karo, aisA saba sahajabhAva se hotA hI rahatA hai| usameM mana-buddhi-citta aura ahaMkAra kA upayoga nahIM karanA pdd'taa| jinameM ina sabakA upayoga hotA hai, use asahaja kahate haiN| Apako koI vastu cAhie aura sAmane koI vyakti mile aura kahe ki, 'lo, yaha vastu', to vaha sahajabhAva se milA huA kahA jaaegaa| sahaja arthAt aprayatna dazA praznakartA : mokSa bhI sahajarUpa se AtA ho to manuSya ko usake lie prayatna karane kI kyA z2arUrata hai? dAdAzrI : prayatna koI karatA hI nahIM hai| yaha to sirpha ahaMkAra karatA hai ki maiMne prayatna kiyA! praznakartA : yaha maiM yahA~ para AyA hU~, vaha prayatna karake hI AyA hU~ na? dAdAzrI : vaha to Apa aisA mAnate ho ki maiM yaha prayatna kara rahA hU~, Apa sahaja rUpa se hI yahA~ para Ae ho| maiM vaha jAnatA hU~ aura Apa vaha nahIM jAnate ho| ApakA igoiz2ama Apako dikhAtA hai ki 'maiM thA to huaa|' vAstava meM sabhI kriyAe~ svAbhAvika rUpa se ho rahI hotI hai|

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AptavANI-6 135 praznakartA : to phira karane jaisA kucha rahatA hI nahIM, aisA hai? dAdAzrI : karane jaisA bhI kucha nahIM rahatA aura nahIM karane jaisA bhI kucha nahIM rhtaa| jagat jAnane lAyaka hai| praznakartA : jAneM kisa taraha? dAdAzrI : 'yaha kyA ho rahA hai' use dekhate' rahanA hai aura 'jAnate' rahanA hai| prakRti kA pRthakkaraNa praznakartA : prakRti kA enAlisisa kisa taraha se kareM, vaha smjhaaie| dAdAzrI : subaha uThe, tabhI se aMdara cAya ke lie zora macAtI hai yA kisa ke lie zora macAtI hai, aisA patA nahIM calatA? vaha prakRti hai| phira aura kyA mA~gatI hai? taba kahe ki, 'jarA nAztA, civar3A kucha laanaa|' vaha bhI patA calatA hai na? isa taraha pUre dina prakRti ko dekhe to prakRti kA enAlisisa ho jAtA hai| usase dUra rahakara sabakucha dekhanA cAhie! yaha saba apanI marjI se koI nahIM karatA, prakRti karavAtI hai! praznakartA : yaha to sthUla huaa| paraMtu aMdara jo calatA hai use kisa taraha dekheM? dAdAzrI : vaha icchA kise huI, vaha hameM dekha lenA hai| yaha icchA merI hai yA prakRti kI hai, vaha hameM dekha lenA hai| kyoMki bhItara do hI cIjeM haiN| praznakartA : alaga rahakara 'dekhanA' usa taraha kI prekTisa karanI par3egI? dAdAzrI : eka hI dina karoge to yaha saba A hI jAegA phir| yaha saba sirpha eka hI dina karane kI z2arUrata hai| bAkI ke aura saba dinoM meM vahI kA vahI punarAvartana hai|

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AptavANI-6 isalie hama eka ravivAra ke dina lagAma chor3a dene kA prayoga karane ko kahate haiN| usase apane mana meM jo aisA hotA hai ki, 'hamane yaha lagAma pakar3I hai, tabhI yaha cala rahA hai', vaha nikala jaaegaa| 136 praznakartA : lagAma pakar3I aisA kahA, yAnI vaha ahaMkAra huA na? dAdAzrI : hA~, paraMtu vaha DiscArja ahaMkAra hai / ahaMkAra ko hameM jAna lenA cAhie aura yaha bhI jAnanA cAhie ki yaha kisa AdhAra para cala rahA hai? usake bAvajUda bhI abhI taka usakA bhAva ulTA rahatA hai ki mere kAraNa cala rahA hai! isalie aisA prayoga karoge na, to vaha saba bAhara nikala jAegA ! yaha to baccA hamase kahe, 'maiM terA bApa huuN|' to usa ghar3I hameM aisA hotA hai ki 'yahI bola rahA hai|' taba hameM gussA AtA hai aura beTA kaba kyA bolegA, vaha kahA nahIM jA sakatA / arthAt vANI rikaoNrDa hai, vaha bolanevAle kI khuda kI zakti nahIM hai, apanI bhI zakti nahIM hai / yaha to parAI cIz2a phiMka jAtI hai, aisI jAgRti rahanI cAhie / isa prakAra se Age bar3hate-bar3hate to kisI 'nagInabhAI' kI maiM bAta karU~ to usa ghar3I mujhe aisA bhItara khyAla rahanA hI cAhie ki vaha 'zuddhAtmA' hai| koI pustaka par3ha rahe hoM, taba usameM 'maMgalAdevI ne aisA kiyA aura maMgalAdevI ne vaisA kiyA', to usa samaya maMgalAdevI kA AtmA dikhanA caahie| isa prakAra jitanA ho sake utanA karanA / aisA nahIM ki Aja ke Aja hI pUrA kara lenA hai| isameM 'klAsa' nahIM lAnA hai, paraMtu paoNsibala karanA hai| dhIre-dhIre sabake sAtha zuddha premasvarUpa honA hai| praznakartA : zuddha premasvarUpa arthAt kisa taraha rahanA cAhie ? dAdAzrI : koI vyakti abhI gAlI de gayA aura phira Apake pAsa AyA taba bhI ApakA prema jAe nahIM, use zuddha prema kahate haiN| phUla car3hAe to bhI bar3he nhiiN| bar3he- ghaTe vaha saba Asakti hai| jabaki bar3he nahIM, ghaTe nahIM, vaha zuddha prema hai|

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AptavANI-6 137 prakRti para kaMTrola kauna karatA hai? praznakartA : prakRti para kaMTrola nahIM rhtaa| bAkI zuddhAtmAbhAva ThIka taraha se rahatA hai| dAdAzrI : kaMTrola karane kA kAma to pulisavAle ko sauMpa do! prakRti para kaMTrola nahIM karanA hai| kaMTrola karanA zubhAzubha mArga meM hotA hai, ApakI prakRti para kaMTrola kauna lAegA aba? Apa mAlika nahIM ho| Apa aba 'caMdUbhAI' nahIM ho aura jo kara rahA hai, vaha saba 'vyavasthita' kara rahA hai| aba Apa use kaMTrola kisa taraha karoge? praznakartA : jo doSa dikhate haiM, ve jAe~ge na? dAdAzrI : jo dikhane lage, ve to cale hI gae samajho na! jagat ko khuda ke doSa dikhate hI nahIM, auroM ke doSa dikhate haiN| Apako khuda ke doSa dikhe na? praznakartA : khuda ke doSa dikhate haiM, paraMtu ve TAle nahIM jA skte| dAdAzrI : nahIM aisA kucha mata krnaa| aisA hameM nahIM karanA hai| yaha vijJAna hai| yaha to 'caMdUbhAI' kyA kara rahe haiM, vaha Apako dekhate rahanA hai| basa, itanA hI Apako karanA hai| ApakA aura koI kAma hI nahIM hai| caMdUbhAI ke Apa UparI ho| caMdUbhAI to 'vyavasthita' ke tAbe meM hai| 'vyavasthita' preraNA detA hai aura caMdUbhAI laTTa kI taraha ghUmatA hai! aura caMdUbhAI kI bahuta bar3I bhUla ho taba Apako kahanA hai ki 'caMdUbhAI! aisA karoge to nahIM pusaaegaa|' itanA Apako kahanA hai! prakRti kA satAnA praznakartA : mokSa anubhava meM AtA hai, paraMtu prakRti apanA svabhAva nahIM chodd'tii| usase Uba jAte haiN| dAdAzrI : prakRti apanA svabhAva chor3egI hI nahIM na? ghara ke sAmane sarakAra cAroM tarapha gaTara khola de to? gaTara apanA guNa batAegA yA nahIM?

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138 AptavANI-6 praznakartA : btaaegaa| dAdAzrI : usa ghar3I Apako kauna sI dRSTi meM rahanA par3egA? praznakartA : jnyaataa-dRssttaa| dAdAzrI : ezo-ArAma karane jAe~ge to hameM gaMdha AegI, isalie jJAtA-dRSTA hI rhnaa| prakRti meM gaTara-vaTara Ae~, taba usameM jAgRta rhnaa| praznakartA : 'hama' 'par3osI' ko 'dekhate' raheM aura use sahI rAste para mor3ane kA prayatna nahIM kareM to vaha kaise calegA? vaha daMbha nahIM kahalAegA? dAdAzrI : hameM mor3ane kA kyA adhikAra? daqhala nahIM karanI hai| use kauna calAtA hai, vaha jAnate ho? hama calAte bhI nahIM hai aura hama mor3ate bhI nahIM hai| vaha 'vyavasthita' ke tAbe meM hai| to phira daqhala karane se kyA matalaba hai? jo hamArA 'dharma' nahIM hai, usameM daqhala karane jAe~ to paradharma utpanna hogA! praznakartA : isa janma meM hI jJAna se hI hamArA ulTA AcaraNa sTaoNpa ho jAegA yA nahIM? dAdAzrI : ho bhI sakatA hai! 'jJAnIpuruSa' ke kahe anusAra kare to pA~ca-dasa varSa meM ho sakatA hai| are, ekAdha varSa meM bhI ho sakatA hai! 'jJAnIpuruSa' to tIna loka ke nAtha kahe jAte haiN| vahA~ para kyA nahIM ho sakatA? kucha bAkI rahegA kyA? ina dAdA ke pAsa baiThakara sabakucha samajha lenA pdd'egaa| satsaMga ke lie TAima nikAlanA pdd'egaa| 'ame kevalajJAna pyAsI, dAdAne kAje A bhava dezuM ame ja gALI...' - navanIta inheM tRSA kisakI hai?

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AptavANI-6 139 kevalajJAna kI hI tRSA hai| hamameM aba dUsarI koI tRSA rahI nhiiN| taba hama use kaheM, 'aMdara rahI hai tRSA, usakI gaharAI se jA~ca to kara?' taba kahe, 'vaha to prakRti meM rahI hai, merI nahIM rhii| prakRti meM to kisI ko cAra AnA raha gaI ho, kisI kI ATha AnA raha gaI ho to kisI kI bAraha AnA raha gaI ho, to bAraha AnevAle ko bhagavAna daMDa dete hoMge?' taba kahe, 'nA, bhAI terI jitanI kamI hai, utanI tU pUrI kr|' aba prakRti hai taba taka usakI sabhI kamiyA~ pUrI ho hI jaaeNgii| yadi daqhala nahIM karoge to prakRti kamI pUrI kara hI degii| prakRti khuda kI kamI khuda pUrI karatI hai| aba isameM 'maiM karatA hU~' kahA ki daqhalaMdAjI ho jAegI! 'jJAna' nahIM liyA ho to prakRti kA pUre dina ulTA hI calatA rahatA hai, aura aba to sIdhA hI calatA rahatA hai| prakRti kahe ki, 'tU sAmanevAle ko ulTA sunA de', lekina aMdara kahegA ki, 'nahIM, aisA nahIM krte| ulTA sunAne kA vicAra AyA, usakA pratikramaNa kro|' aura jJAna se pahale to ulTA sunA bhI detA thA aura Upara se kahatA thA ki aura jyAdA sunAne jaisA hai| isalie abhI jo aMdara calatA rahatA hai vaha samakita bala hai! z2abaradasta samakita bala hai| vaha rAta-dina niraMtara kAma karatA hI rahatA hai ! praznakartA : vaha saba kAma prajJA karatI hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, vaha kAma prajJA kara rahI hai| prajJA mokSa meM le jAne ke lie, khIMca-khIMcakara bhI mokSa meM le jaaegii| praznakartA : lekina dAdA, prakRti kA phorsa kaIbAra bahuta AtA hai| dAdAzrI : vaha to jitanI bhArI prakRti hogI utanA phorsa adhika hogaa| praznakartA : paraMtu usa samaya 'jJAna' bhI utanA hI joradAra calatA hai|

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140 AptavANI-6 dAdAzrI : hA~, 'jJAna' bhI z2oradAra calatA hai| yaha 'akrama vijJAna' hai, isalie mArapITa karake, lar3akara bhI ThikAne lA degA! karAroM se mukta dAdAzrI : 'maiM kartA hU~' aisA Apako lagatA hai aba? praznakartA : svapna meM bhI nhiiN| dAdAzrI : kyA bAta karate ho? kartApana gayA matalaba mamatA gaI, hamArI khuda kI mamatA gaI, lekina pahale ke karAra kie hae haiM isalie sAmanevAle kI mamatA abhI taka hai! sAmanevAle logoM ke sAtha jo karAra kie hue haiM, ve karAra pUre to karane par3eMge na? vaha vyakti yadi chor3a de to harja nahIM hai, paraMtu hisAba cukAe binA kauna chor3a degA? aisA 'riyala mArga' zAyada hI kabhI hotA hai| vahA~ saMpUrNa pada prApta hotA hai! vahA~ para svataMtratA, saccI Az2AdI milatI hai! bhagavAna bhI UparI na rahe, vaisI Az2AdI prApta hotI hai! bhale hI yaha 'aurata' UparI rahe, usameM harja nahIM hai, paraMtu bhagavAna to UparI nahIM hI rahane cAhie! 'aurata' to jaba taka jIegI taba taka UparI rhegii| paraMtu bhagavAna to hamezA ke lie UparI banakara baiTheMge na? praznakartA : mokSa nahIM hogA to phira vApasa AnA par3egA na? dAdAzrI : AegA, taba bhI eka-do janma ke lie hI! lekina mukhya to kyA hai? ki apanI tarapha ke karAra pUre ho jAne caahie| unakI tarapha ke karAra bhale hI raheM, unakI tarapha ke karAra to ve pUre kareMge, paraMtu ApakI tarapha ke, bIvI-baccoM ke, sabake hisAba to cukAne par3eMge na? apanA yaha sArA karArI mAla hai, usameM ApakA zuddha upayoga calA nahIM jaataa| yaha mAla to jaise-jaise samabhAva se nikAla hotA jAegA, vaisevaise ApakA saMyama bar3hatA jaaegaa| saMyama ko hI puruSArtha kahA hai| jaisejaise saMyama bar3hatA jAegA, vaise-vaise usakA nikAla bhI jaldI hotA jaaegaa| oTomeTika sabakucha hote-hote 'kevalajJAna' para A jaaegaa|

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AptavANI-6 141 'Apako' kucha bhI nahIM karanA hai| Apako to nizcaya karanA hai ki 'mujhe dAdAjI kI AjJA kA pAlana karanA hai|' aura pAlana nahIM ho sake to bhI usakI ciMtA nahIM karanI hai| Apako dRr3ha nizcaya karanA hai ki 'merI sAsa DA~TatI hai' to ve dikheM usase pahale hI mana meM taya karanA ki "mujhe dAdA kI AjJA pAlanI hai aura inake sAtha 'samabhAva se nikAla' karanA hI hai|" phira yadi samabhAva se nikAla nahIM ho, to Apa jokhimadAra nhiiN| Apa AjJA pAlana karane ke adhikArI ho, Apa apane nizcaya ke adhikArI ho, usake pariNAma ke adhikArI Apa nahIM ho! ApakA nizcaya honA cAhie ki mujhe AjJA pAlana karanA hI hai, phira nahIM kiyA jA sake to usakA kheda Apako nahIM karanA hai| paraMtu maiM Apako dikhAU~ usake anusAra pratikramaNa krnaa| atikramaNa kiyA, isalie pratikramaNa kro| itanA sarala, sIdhA aura sugama mArga hai, ise samajha lenA hai!

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[19] duHkha dekara mokSa meM nahIM jA sakate praznakartA : manuSya hone ke nAte meM hamArA dharma kyA hai? dAdAzrI : kisa taraha isa jagata meM apane mana-vacana-kAyA logoM ke kAma meM Ae~, vahI apanA dharma hai| logoM ke kucha kAma kareM, vANI se kisI ko acchI bAta smjhaaeN| buddhi se samajhAe~, kisI ko duHkha na ho vaisA apanA AcaraNa rakheM, vaha apanA dharma hai| kisI jIva ko duHkha nahIM ho, usameM yadi sabhI jIvoM ke lie nahIM ho sake to sirpha manuSyoM ke lie hI aisA praNa karanA caahie| aura yadi manuSyoM ke lie aisA praNa kiyA huA ho to sabhI jIvoM ke lie praNa karanA cAhie ki isa manavacana-kAyA se kisI jIva ko duHkha na ho| itanA hI dharma samajhanA hai! yaha to zAdI karake jAtI hai, taba sAsa use duHkha detI hai aura vaha sAsa ko duHkha detI hai| phira narkagati bA~dhate haiN| sAsa bhI samajha jAtI hai ki beTe ko kho denA ho to zAdI karavAo! Apake saba aramAna pUre ho cuke haiM kyA? praznakartA : ApakA jJAna lene ke bAda aisA rahatA hai ki jaise gaMgA kA pavitra jharanA baha jAtA hai, vaise hI hameM bhI baha jAnA hai| dAdAzrI : hA~, baha jaanaa| kisI ko bhI asara nahIM ho, kisI ko bhI duHkha nahIM ho, usa taraha se| kisI ko bhI duHkha dekara hama mokSa meM jA sakeM, aisA nahIM ho sktaa| hamase kisI ko duHkha huA to hama jA rahe hoMge to vahA~ se vaha rassI DAlakara pakar3egA ki khar3e rho| aura yadi hama sabhI ko sukha deMge to sabhI jAne deNge| cAya-pAnI karavAe~ge to bhI

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AptavANI-6 143 jAne deMge, pAna deMge to bhI, kucha nahIM to lauMga kA dAnA deMge to bhI jAne deNge| loga AzA rakhate haiM ki kucha milegaa| loga AzA nahIM rakheMge to Apa meharabAna kaise? mokSa meM jAnevAle meharabAna kahalAte haiN| to meharabAnI dikhAte-dikhAte hameM jAnA hai| praznakartA : logoM ko AzA rahatI hai, paraMtu hameM AzA rakhane kI kyA z2arUrata? dAdAzrI : hameM AzA nahIM rakhanI hai| yaha to unheM pAna-supArI yA kucha bhI dekara calane laganA hai| varnA ye loga to ulTA bolakara rokeNge| isIlie hameM aTA-paTAkara kAma nikAla lenA hai| loga aise hI mokSa meM nahIM jAne deNge| loga to kaheMge ki, 'yahA~ kyA duHkha hai ki vahA~ cale? yahA~ hamAre sAtha maz2e karo na?' praznakartA : paraMtu hama logoM kA suneM taba na? dAdAzrI : suneMge nahIM, taba bhI ve ulTA kreNge| unake lie cAroM dizAe~ khulI haiM aura ApakI eka hI dizA khulI hai| isalie unheM kyA? ve ulTA kara sakate haiM aura Apako ulTA nahIM karanA hai| sabhI ko rAjI rakhanA hai| rAz2I karake calate bananA hai| aise Apake sAmane tAkakara dekha rahA ho, taba use kaise ho sAhaba?' kahA, to vaha jAne degA aura tAkakara dekha rahA ho aura Apa kucha nahIM bole, taba vaha mana meM kahegA ki yaha to bahuta akar3avAlA hai! phira vaha haMgAmA karegA! praznakartA : hama sAmanevAle ko rAjI karane jAe~ to apane meM rAga nahIM A jAegA? dAdAzrI : usa taraha se rAjI nahIM karanA hai| isa pulisavAle ko kisa taraha rAz2I rakhate ho? pulisavAle ke prati rAga hotA hai Apako? praznakartA : nhiiN| dAdAzrI : raajii| vaha bhI sabako rAz2I rakhane kI z2arUrata nahIM hai|

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144 AptavANI-6 apane rAste meM koI Ar3e Ae, taba use samajhA-paTAkara kAma nikAla lenA hai| inheM to Ar3e Ate dera nahIM lgtii| unameM se kisI kA Apako dhakkA laga jAe, to badale meM zikAyata karane mata jAnA, paraMtu use aTA-paTAkara kAma nikAla lene jaisA hai| farja pUre karo, lekina sAvadhAnI se praznakartA : sarvisa ke kAraNa kisI ke sAtha kaSAya ho jAe~ yA karane hI par3eM, to usase AtmA para kucha asara hotA hai? dAdAzrI : nahIM, lekina phira pachatAvA hotA hai na? praznakartA : farz2a pUre karane meM kaSAya karane par3eM to kyA karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : ApakI bAta ThIka hai| aisA saMpUrNa saMyama nahIM hotA ki farz2a pUrA karate samaya bhI saMyama raha sake, phira bhI kisI ko bahuta duHkha ho jAe to mana meM aisA honA cAhie ki 'are, apane hAtha se aisA nahIM ho to acchaa|' praznakartA : lekina farz2a to adA karanA hI cAhie na? ye pulisavAle kyA karate haiM? dAdAzrI : farz2a to adA karanA hI par3egA, usake binA calegA nhiiN| vaha to, do-tIna cora ghUma rahe hoM to pulisavAle ko pakar3ane hI par3eMge, usake binA calegA hI nhiiN| vaha vyavahAra hai| paraMtu aba usameM do bhAva rahate haiM, eka to farz2a pUrA karate samaya krUratA nahIM rahanI caahie| pahale jo krUra bhAva rahatA thA, vaha aba nahIM rahanA caahie| apanA AtmA (pratiSThita AtmA) bigar3e nahIM, vaise rakhanA caahie| varnA farz2a to adA karanA hI pdd'egaa| gurakhA ho use bhI farz2a adA karanA par3atA hai, aura dUsarI tarapha mana meM aisA pazcAtApa rahanA cAhie ki aisA kAma apane hisse meM nahIM Ae to acchA!

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[20] anAdi kA adhyAsa praznakartA : jaba-jaba hama apane vyavahAra meM aura vartana meM Ate haiM taba, 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' yA 'caMdUbhAI hU~' usakA kucha bhI patA nahIM cltaa| dAdAzrI : use samajha lene kI z2arUrata hai| 'Apa' caMdUbhAI bhI ho aura 'Apa' 'zuddhAtmA' bhI ho ! bAya rileTiva vyU poinTa se Apa 'caMdUbhAI ' aura bAya riyala vyU poinTa se Apa 'zuddhAtmA' ho! rileTiva sArA vinAzI hai / vinAzI bhAga meM Apa caMdUbhAI ho ! vinAzI vyavahAra sArA caMdUbhAI kA hai aura avinAzI ApakA hai ! aba 'jJAna' ke bAda avinAzI meM ApakI jAgRti rahatI hai| samajhane meM z2arA kamI raha jAe to kabhI kisI se aisI bhUla ho jAtI hai| sabhI se nahIM hotI / Apa sirpha caMdUbhAI hI nahIM ho| kisI jagaha para Apa sarvisa kare, to Apa usake naukara ho / taba Apako naukara ke sabhI pharz2a pUre karane haiN| koI kahIM hamezA ke lie naukara nahIM hai / praznakartA : atikramaNa itane adhika hote haiM ki eka kAma pUrA nahIM kiyA ho, vahA~ dUsarA taiyAra rahatA hai / vahA~ para pratikramaNa kA upayoga karane lageM, taba dUsarA phorsa itanA adhika AtA hai ki use 'penDiMga' rakhanA par3atA hai| dAdAzrI : ve to Dhera sAre aaeNge| usa Dhera sAre kA samabhAva se nikAla karoge, taba phira dhIre-dhIre vaha z2ora kama hogaa| yaha saba pudgala hai, pudgala yAnI kyA ki pUraNa (cArja honA, bharanA) jo kiyA hai vaha abhI

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146 AptavANI-6 galana (DiscArja honA, khAlI honA) ho rahA hai, usakA samabhAva se nikAla kro| isalie Apa amuka apekSA se caMdUbhAI ho aura amuka apekSA se seTha bhI ho| amuka apekSA se inake sasura bhI ho| paraMtu Apa apanI 'limiTa' jAnate ho yA nahIM jAnate ki 'kina-kina apekSAoM se maiM sasura hU~?' vaha pIche par3a jAe ki 'Apa hamezA ke lie inake sasura ho', taba Apa kaheMge, 'nahIM bhaI, hamezA ke lie koI sasura hotA hogA ? " Apa to 'zuddhAtmA' ho aura 'caMdUbhAI' to vaLagaNa (balA, pAza, baMdhana) hai| paraMtu anAdikAla kA yaha adhyAsa hai, isalie hara bAra usI ora khIMca le jAtA hai / DaoNkTara ne kahA ho ki dAe~ hAtha kA upayoga mata karanA, phira bhI dAyA~ hAtha thAlI meM DAla detA hai / lekina 'yaha' jAgRti aisI hai ki turaMta hI patA cala jAtA hai ki yaha bhUla huii| AtmA hI jAgRti hai| AtmA hI jJAna hai| paraMtu pahale kI ajAgRti AtI hai, isalie kucha samaya taka ajAgRti kI mAra khAtA hai| praznakartA : yaha beTA merA hai, yaha beTI merI hai, aisA hotA hai, use phira aisA bhI hotA hai ki 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' aura 'yaha to merA nahIM hai, merA nahIM hai|' dAdAzrI : bhItara guNana hotA hai, usameM phira bhAga lagA dete haiN| bhItara saba taraha-taraha ke kAraka haiN| eka-do hI nahIM / yaha to sArI mAyA hai / isalie yaha to hameM taraha- taraha kA dikhaaegii| ina sabhI ko hameM pahacAnanA pdd'egaa| yaha apanA hitecchu hai, yaha apanA duzmana hai, isa taraha sabhI ko pahacAnanA pdd'egaa| praznakartA : hamAre bhItara to ulTI-sIdhI sabhI taraha kI ToliyA~ ikaTThI haiM, vaha to roz2a kA hI hai / dAdAzrI : koI bhI bhAva hamAre bhItara utpanna ho aura usakA bavaMDara uThe to vahIM se chor3a denA sabakucha | bavaMDara uThA ki turaMta hI aisA patA cala jAtA hai ki sabakucha ulTe rAste para hai| jahA~ the vahA~ se 'maiM zuddhAtmA

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AptavANI- -6 hU~' karake bhAga jaanaa| nirAkulatA meM se thor3I bhI vyAkulatA utpanna huI ki 'yaha hamArA sthAna nahIM hai' karake bhAga jaanaa| 147 praznakartA : yahIM para mujhase bhUla ho jAtI hai| jaba AkulatAvyAkulatA hotI hai taba maiM bhAga nahIM jAtA, balki sAmane baiThA rahatA huuN| " dAdAzrI : abhI baiThane jaisA nahIM hai / Age jAkara baitthnaa| abhI taka pUrI taraha zakti nahIM AI hai, zakti Ae binA baiThoge to mAra khaaoge| 'apanA' to nirAkulatA kA pradeza ! jahA~ para koI bhI AkulatA-vyAkulatA hai, vahA~ para karma bNdheNge| nirAkulatA se karma nahIM bNdhege| vyAkula hokara isa saMsAra kA koI bhI phAyadA nahIM hogA aura jo hogA vaha to vyavasthita hai, isalie nirAkulatA meM rahanA cAhie / jaba taka zuddha upayoga rahegA, taba taka nirAkulatA rhegii| hamArI buddhi bacapana meM aisI thI / sAmanevAle ke lie 'spIDI' abhiprAya banA detI thii| kisI ke bhI lie spIDI abhiprAya banA detI thii| isalie maiM samajha sakatA hU~ ki ApakA yaha saba kaisA cala rahA hogA? vAstava meM to kisI ke lie bhI abhiprAya rakhane jaisA jagat hai hI nhiiN| kisI ke lie abhiprAya rakhanA, vahI apanA baMdhana hai aura kisI ke lie abhiprAya nahIM rahe, vahI apanA mokSa hai / kisI kA aura hamArA kyA lenA-denA? vaha apane karma bhoga rahA hai, hama apane karma bhoga rahe haiM / saba apane-apane karma bhoga rahe haiN| usameM kisI kA lenA-denA hI nahIM hai, kisI ke lie abhiprAya banAne kI z2arUrata hI nahIM hai / praznakartA : aba hamAre abhiprAya kahA~ par3a jAte haiM, vyavahAra meM par3ate haiN| yaha to aisA hotA hai ki mujhe patA bhI nahIM hotA aura kaheMge, 'ina caMdUbhAI se kahA hai, Apako 5000 rupaye de gae na?' to mujhe patA bhI nahIM calatA ki yaha mere nAma se jhUTha bolakara AyA hai / isalie phira abhiprAya par3a jAtA hai ki yaha jhUThA hai, galata hai| dAdAzrI : bhagavAna ne to yahA~ taka kahA hai ki kala eka vyakti ApakI jeba meM se sau rupaye le gayA aura Apako bhanaka lagane se yA

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148 AptavANI-6 AsapAsa ke vAtAvaraNa se patA cala gyaa| phira dUsare dina jaba vaha Ae taba dekhate hI usa para zaMkA karo, to vaha gunAha hai| praznakartA : aura yadi aisA abhiprAya rahe ki yaha jhUThA hai, to vaha gunAha hai? dAdAzrI : zaMkA kare, vahIM se gunAha utpanna hotA hai| bhagavAna ne kyA kahA hai ki 'kala usake karma ke udaya se vaha cora thA aura Aja zAyada nahIM bhI ho|' yaha to saba udaya ke anusAra hai| praznakartA : lekina phira hameM kaisA bartAva karanA cAhie? yadi hama abhiprAya nahIM rakheMge to use lata laga jAegI ki 'yaha to ThIka hai, ye to kucha boleMge hI nhiiN| isalie roz2a-roz2a AkSepa lagAte jaao|' dAdAzrI : nahIM, hameM to, usake lie abhiprAya die binA sAvadhAnIpUrvaka calanA hai| Apa paise jeba meM rakhate hoM aura Apako patA cale ki yaha vyakti jeba meM se nikAlakara le gayA hai, to kisI ke prati abhiprAya nahIM baMdhe isalie Apako paise dUsarI jagaha para rakha dene caahie| praznakartA : aisA nahIM, yaha to eka vyakti jisakA khuda kA koI dUsarA lenadAra ho, use aisA kahegA, 'maiMne caMdabhAI se kahA hai, unhoMne Apako paise bheja die haiN|' taba hotA hai ki maiM tujhe milA nahIM, tU mujhe milA nahIM aura itanA jhUTha bola rahA hai? mere sAtha aisA ho, vahA~ para aba kisa taraha se vyavahAra karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : hA~, aisA saba jhUTha bhI bolatA hai, paraMtu vaha bolA kisalie? kyoM dUsare kA nAma nahIM diyA aura caMdUbhAI kA hI detA hai? isalie kahIM na kahIM Apa gunahagAra ho| Apake karma kA udaya hI ApakA gunAha hai| praznakartA : lekina yahA~ para merA vyavahAra kaisA honA cAhie? dAdAzrI : rAga-dveSa se yaha saMsAra khar3A hotA hai| isakA mUla hI rAga-dveSa hai| rAga-dveSa kyoM hote haiM? taba kaheM ki kisI ke bIca meM

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AptavANI- -6 dakhalaMdAz2I kI ki rAga-dveSa khar3A huA / vaha ghara meM se corI karake le gayA ho, phira bhI yadi Apa use cora mAnoge, to ApakA rAga- -dveSa utpanna ho jaaegaa| kyoMki 'yaha cora hai' aisA Apa mAnate ho aura vaha to laukika jJAna hai jabaki alaukika jJAna vaisA nahIM hai / alaukika meM to eka hI zabda kahate haiM ki 'vaha tere hI karma kA udaya hai| usake karma kA udaya aura tere karma kA udaya, ve donoM eka hue, isalie vaha le gayA / usameM tU vApasa kisalie abhiprAya DAlatA hai ki yaha cora hai ? ' 149 hama to Apase kahate haiM na ki, sAvadhAnIpUrvaka calo, pAgala kuttA aMdara ghusa jAegA, aisA lage ki turaMta hI ' apanA' daravAz2A baMda kara do| paraMtu usa para yadi Apa aisA kaho ki 'yaha pAgala hI hai' to vaha abhiprAya DAlA kahA jAegA / praznakartA : are dAdA, kuttA ghusa jAegA, taba daravAz2A baMda karane ke badale maiM to sAmane z2ora lagAU~ aura daravAz2A baMda karate hue daravAz2e kA bhI phaz2ItA karU~ aura kutte kA bhI phaz2ItA karU~! dAdAzrI : yaha saba laukika jJAna hai / bhagavAna kA alaukika jJAna to kyA kahatA hai ki kisI para Aropa hI mata lagAnA, kisI ke lie abhiprAya mata DAlanA, kisI ke lie koI bhAva hI mata krnaa| 'jagat nirdoSa hI hai !' aisA jAnoge to jaaoge| jagat chUTa ke tamAma jIva nirdoSa hI haiM aura maiM akelA hI doSita hU~, mere hI doSoM ke kAraNa maiM baMdhA huA hU~, aisI dRSTi ho jAegI, taba chUTA jA skegaa| bhagavAna ne jagat nirdoSa dekhA thA, mujhe bhI koI doSita nahIM dikhatA hai| phUloM kA hAra car3hAe to bhI koI doSita nahIM hai aura gAliyA~ de to bhI koI doSita nahIM hai, aura jagat nirdoSa hI hai| yaha to mAyAvI dRSTi ke kAraNa saba doSita dikhate haiN| isameM sirpha dRSTi kA hI doSa hai| dAnezvarI vyakti dAna de, to use vaha kahatA hai, 'ye dAna de rahe haiM, ye kitane acche loga haiM?' jaba ki bhagavAna kahate haiM ki tU kyoM khuza ho rahA hai? vaha apane karma kA udaya bhoga rahA hai| dAna lenevAle bhI apane

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AptavANI-6 karma kA udaya bhoga rahe haiM / tU binA bAta bIca meM kyoM jhaMjhaTa kara rahA hai? corI karanevAle corI karate haiM, ve bhI unake karma kA udaya bhoga rahe haiM / pUrA jagat apane-apane karma kA hI vedana kara rahA hai ! 150 hamane Apako jaba se dekhA, jaba se pahacAnA, taba se hamArA to kabhI bhI abhiprAya nahIM badalatA / phira Apa aise dhUmo yA vaise ghUmo, vaha saba Apake karma ke udaya ke adhIna hai| jaba taka khuda ke doSa nahIM dikhate aura dUsaroM ke hI doSa dikhate rahate haiM, jaba taka vaisI dRSTi hai taba taka saMsAra khar3A rahegA / aura jaba auroM kA eka bhI doSa nahIM dikhegA aura khuda ke sabhI doSa dikheMge, taba samajhanA ki mokSa meM jAne kI taiyArI huI, basa itanA hI dRSTiphera hai ! dUsaroM ke doSa dikhanA, vaha hamArI hI dRSTi kI bhUla hai| kyoMki ye sabhI jIva khuda kI sattA se nahIM haiM, parasattA se hai| khuda ke karma ke adhIna hai / niraMtara karma hI bhugata rahe haiM ! usameM kisI kA doSa hotA hI nahIM hai| jise yaha samajha meM A gayA, vaha mokSa meM jaaegaa| nahIM to vakIloM jaisA samajha meM AyA, to yahIM para rahegA / yahA~ kA nyAya tolegA to yahIM para rahegA /

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[21] cIkaNI 'phAiloM meM samabhAva praznakartA : saMsAra meM saba se bar3A kArya, ina phAiloM kA 'samabhAva se nikAla' karanA, vahI hai na? dAdAzrI : hA~, ina 'phAiloM' kI hI jhaMjhaTa hai| ina 'phAiloM' ke kAraNa hI Apa phaMse hue ho| ina 'phAiloM' ne hI Apako rokA hai, dUsarA koI rokanevAlA nahIM hai| bAkI sabhI jagaha Apa vItarAga hI ho| praznakartA : bhAva bahuta hotA hai phira bhI samabhAva se nikAla nahIM ho pAe, to kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : hA~, vaisA hotA hai, paraMtu usakI jokhimadArI apanI nahIM hai| hameM aisA nakkI rakhanA cAhie ki 'samabhAva se nikAla' nahIM ho sake, phira bhI hameM apanA 'samabhAva se nikAla' karane kA bhAva badalanA nahIM hai| mana meM aisA nahIM honA cAhie ki 'are, aba nikAla nahIM karanA hai|' "mujhe 'samabhAva se nikAla' karanA hI hai," aisA bhAva hameM chor3anA nahIM hai| 'samabhAva se nikAla' nahIM ho, vaha 'vyavasthita' ke tAbe kI bAta hai| praznakartA : agara Aja nikAla nahIM huA to, kala-parasoM to hogA hI na? dAdAzrI : assI pratizata nikAla to apane Apa hI ho jAtA hai| yaha to dasa-paMdraha pratizata hI nahIM ho paataa| vaha bhI agara bahuta cIkaNI (gAr3ha) ho, usI kaa| usameM bhI hama gunahagAra nahIM haiM, 'vyavasthita' gunahagAra hai| hamane to nakkI hI kiyA hai ki 'samabhAva se nikAla karanA hI hai| apane sabhI prayatna samabhAva se nikAla karane ke hone caahie|

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AptavANI-6 abhI to hara eka kI cIkaNI phAila hotI hai / cIkaNI phAila nahIM lAai hote, to varSoM taka jJAnI ke pAsa baiThane kI z2arUrata nahIM pdd'tii| praznakartA : dAdA, aisA kucha kIjie ki phaTAka se phAileM khatma ho jaae| 152 dAdAzrI : aisA hai ki AtmA kI jo zakti hai, vaha jaba taka prakaTa nahIM hogI, taba taka pUrNakArya nahIM hogA / aba yadi maiM kara dU~ to ApakI zakti prakaTa hue binA hI raha jAegI / prakaTa to Apako hI karanI cAhie na? AvaraNa to tor3anA par3egA na? aura Apane taya kiyA ki 'ina phAiloM kA nikAla karanA hI hai', tabhI se ve AvaraNa TUTane lgeNge| usa ke lie Apako kucha bhI mehanata nahIM karanI hai / sirpha Apako to aisA bhAva hI karanA hai| sAmanevAlI phAila Ter3hI cale, phira bhI Apako to phAila kA samabhAva se nikAla karanA hai| / Apako to AtmA ko nirAlaMba karanA hai / nirAlaMba nahIM hogA to avalaMbana raha jAe~ge aura avalaMbana raheMge, taba taka ebsolyUTa nahIM ho pAegA ! nirAlaMba AtmA, vaha ebsolyUTa AtmA hai / to vahA~ taka Apako pahu~canA hai| bhale isa bhava meM nahIM pahu~cA jA sake, usameM harja nahIM hai / agale bhava meM to vaisA ho hI jAnevAlA hai, yAnI isa bhava meM to Apako AjJA kA pAlana karake samabhAva se nikAla hI karanA hai / vaha bar3I AjJA hai, aura cIkaNI phAileM, ve kitanI hoMgI? ve koI thor3e hI do sau - pAMca sau hoMgI? do-cAra hI hoMgI, aura asala maz2A hI, jahA~ para cIkaNI phAila ho, vahA~ para AtA hai na! praznakartA : kaIbAra cIkaNI phAila kA nikAla karate-karate bahuta bhArI par3a jAtA hai, bukhAra A jAtA hai ! dAdAzrI : ve sArI nirbalatAe~ nikala jAtI haiM / jitanI nirbalatA nikalI, utanA bala ApameM utpanna hogaa| pahale thA, usake mukAbale Apako adhika bala mahasUsa hogA / hama eka gA~va meM konTraikTa kA kAma karane gae the| pula banAnA thA,

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AptavANI-6 153 san 1939 meN| taba merI umra 30-31 varSa kI thii| usa gA~va kA baniyA pUre dina vyApAra karatA thA, paraMtu rAta ko juA khelakara AtA thA aura paise bigAr3atA thaa| rAta ko baniyA dera se AtA thA, isalie usakI patnI use acchI taraha mAratI thii| gA~va ke loga hameM kahane Ae ki, 'calie seTha, vahA~ dekhane jaisA hai|' maiMne kahA, 'are, kyA dekhane jaisA hai?' taba una logoM ne kahA, 'Apa calie to shii|' taba hama vahA~ ge| vahA~ daravAz2A aMdara se baMda kiyA huA dekhaa| aMdara usakI patnI aise lakar3I mAra rahI hogI, taba baniyA kyA kaha rahA thA, "le, letI jA, le, letI jA, 'le, letI jA'!" yaha to sahI hai! yaha nayA zAstra par3hA hamane! taba gA~vavAle mujhe kahane lage ki "patnI roz2a use isa taraha mAratI hai aura seTha kyA bolatA hai ki 'le letI jA'!" yaha seTha bhI aklavAlA hai na! yaha to duniyA hai| duniyA meM taraha-taraha ke raMga hote haiM! baniye ne AbarU rakhI na? Apako to aisI AbarU rakhanI nahIM hai| ApakI to AbarU hai hii| Apako to sirpha samabhAva se nikAla karanA hai| eka vakIla ne to apane muvakkila se kahA ki, 'Apa yahA~ se jAte ho yA nahIM? nahIM to Apako kutte se kaTavAU~gA!' isakA nAma vakIla, LL.B.! aba muvakkila bhI aise hI haiN| bagaira Thaura-ThikAne kI yaha duniyA hai| hama ise 'polampola' kahate haiN| gunahagAra chUTa jAtA hai aura begunAha pakar3A jAtA hai ! ise polampola nahIM kaheM to kyA kaheM? isa jagat ke vyavahAra se jagat polampola hai aura kudarata ke niyama se jagat bilkula niyama meM hai| logoM ko isakA hisAba nikAlanA nahIM aataa| yaha dikhatA hai, vaha hisAba AyA? nA, naa| yaha kudarata kahatI hai ki jo, pahale kA hisAba thA, yaha vaha AyA hai aura aba isakA hisAba to bAda meM aaegaa| isalie hameM bhUla bhoga lenI hai| jo abhI duHkha bhoga rahA hai, vaha usakI khuda kI hI bhUla hai, aura kisI kI bhUla nahIM hai| praznakartA : ye 'cIkaNI phAileM' haiM, ve bhI apanI hI bhUla hai na?

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154 AptavANI-6 dAdAzrI : hA~, use Apane hI cIkaNI kI hai, isalie Apako usakI cipacipAhaTa nikAlanI hai, aura bhole manuSya kI sabhI phAileM bholI hotI haiN| praznakartA : cIkaNI phAiloMvAle lucce hote haiM? dAdAzrI : nahIM, unheM luccA nahIM kaha skte| ahaMkAra kI vajaha se gAr3ha karate rahate haiN| aura bhole manuSya 'ThIka hai phira', kahakara chor3a dete haiN| use aham kI bilkula bhI nahIM par3I hotii| vANI meM madhuratA, kaoNz2ez2a kA pariNAma doSa hI sAre vANI ke haiN| vANI sudhare nahIM, mIThI nahIM ho to Age jAkara phala nahIM detii| deha ke doSa to ThIka haiM, unheM bhagavAna ne 'leTa go' kiyA hai| paraMtu vANI to dUsaroM ko coTa pahu~cAtI hai na? vANI meM madhuratA AI ki gAr3I clii| vaha madhura hote-hote aMtima avatAra meM itanI madhura ho jAtI hai ki usake sAtha kisI bhI 'phrUTa' kI tulanA nahIM kI jA sakatI, itanI miThAsavAlI hotI hai! aura kucha loga to boleM, taba aisA lagatA hai ki bhaiMseM rambhA rahI hoM! yaha bhI vANI hai aura tIrthaMkara sAhaboM kI bhI vANI hai! praznakartA : yadi bhAva aise kie hoM ki aisI syAdavAda vANI prApta ho, aisI madhura vANI prApta ho, to vaha bhAva hI vaisI vANI kA rikaoNrDa taiyAra karegA na? dAdAzrI : nahIM, aisA nahIM hai| vANI to, bhAva se hameM aisI mA~ga hara roz2a karanI cAhie ki merI vANI se kisI ko bhI duHkha nahIM ho aura sukha ho| lekina sirpha mA~ga karane se hI kucha nahIM ho paaegaa| vaisI vANI utpanna ho, usake kaoNz2ez2a karane pdd'eNge| taba usase vaisA phala aaegaa| vANI phala hai| sukha denevAlI vANI nikale, taba vaha mIThI hotI jAtI hai aura daHkha denevAlI vANI kaDavI hotI jAtI hai| phira bhaiMsA rambhAe aura vaha rambhAe, donoM eka jaisA lagatA hai!

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AptavANI-6 155 maz2Aka se TUTatA hai vacanabala praznakartA : vacanabala kisa taraha utpanna hotA hai? dAdAzrI : eka bhI zabda kA upayoga maz2Aka ur3Ane ke lie nahIM kiyA ho, eka bhI zabda kA galata svArtha yA kisI se dhokhe se chIna lene ke lie upayoga nahIM kiyA ho, zabda kA durupayoga nahIM kiyA ho, khuda kA mAna bar3he usake lie vANI nahIM bolI ho, taba vacanabala utpanna hotA praznakartA : khuda ke mAna ke lie aura svArtha ke lie ThIka hai, paraMtu maz2Aka ur3Ane meM kyA harja hai? dAdAzrI : maz2Aka ur3AnA to bahuta galata hai| isake bajAya to mAna do, vaha acchA! maz2Aka to, 'bhagavAna kI ur3AI' aisA kahA jAegA! Apako aisA lagatA hai ki yaha gadhe jaisA AdamI hai, lekina vaha to bhagavAna hai! 'AphTara oNla' vaha kyA hai, usakI jA~ca kara lo| AphTara oNla to bhagavAna hI hai na? mujhe maz2Aka ur3Ane kI bahuta Adata thii| maz2Aka yAnI kaisI ki bahuta nukasAnadeha nahIM, lekina sAmanevAle ke mana para asara to hotA thA na? apanI buddhi adhika vikasita ho, usakA durupayoga kisameM huA? kama buddhivAle kI maz2Aka ur3AI usameM! yaha jokhima jaba se mujhe samajha meM AyA, taba se maz2Aka ur3AnA baMda ho gyaa| maz2Aka to kabhI ur3AI jAtI hogI? maz2Aka ur3AnA to bhayaMkara jokhima hai, gunAha hai! maz2Aka to kisI kI bhI nahIM ur3AnI caahie| praznakartA : lekina adhika buddhivAle kI maz2Aka ur3Ane meM kyA harja hai? dAdAzrI : nahIM, paraMtu kama buddhivAlA svAbhAvika rUpa se maz2Aka ur3AtA hI nahIM na? koI bhagavAna aise-aise cala rahe hoM to hamAre yahA~ loga ha~sate haiN|

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AptavANI-6 are, kyA maz2Aka ur3A rahA hai? bhItara bhagavAna samajha gae sabakucha ! bhagavAna kI aisI dazA huI, usa para tU maz2Aka ur3A rahA hai, aisA? terI dazA bhI vaisI hI hogI, aisA niyama hI hai ! isalie isa dazA kA dhyAna rkho| praznakartA : mujhase to bar3e logoM kA maz2Aka ho jAtA hai / dAdAzrI : aisA hai ki Apane to abhI yaha bAta samajha lI ki maz2Aka ur3AnA gunAha hai, maiM to choTI umra se hI jAnatA thA, phira bhI AThadasa varSoM taka maz2Aka hotI rahI / ApakI Adata to bahuta jaldI hI calI jaaegii| 156 phira bhI aisI maz2Aka karane meM harja nahIM hai ki jisase kisI ko duHkha nahIM ho aura sabhI ko AnaMda ho / use nirdoSa maz2Aka kahA hai| vaha to hama abhI bhI karate haiM, kyoMki mUla (svabhAva) jAtA nahIM na? paraMtu usameM nirdoSatA hI hotI hai ! jJAnI kI Flexibility praznakartA : khilaune jaise choTe baccoM ke sAtha Apako kisa taraha rAsa AtA hai? dAdAzrI : hama 'kAunTara puliyoM' kA seTa rakhate haiN| itane sAre seTa rakhate haiM ki koI vyakti yahA~ para AyA ki usI taraha se hamArI kAunTara pulI seTa kara dete haiN| isalie itanA sA baccA Ae aura mujhe 'jaya jaya' ( namaskAra) kare to mujhe usake sAtha bAtacIta karanI par3atI hai / hamase bAlaka kabhI bhI bhayabhIta nahIM hotA / praznakartA : ApakI samakakSA kA Ae, taba kyA karate haiM? dAdAzrI : hamArI samakakSA hai hI nahIM / yaha bejor3a pada mAnA jAtA hai| zAstrakAroM ne hI ise bejor3a kahA hai| hameM Trena meM koI mile aura hama 'jJAnI' haiM aisA vaha nahIM jAnatA ho, phira bhI hama pulI lagA dete haiM, 'hama pesenjara haiM', aisI /

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AptavANI-6 157 merI samakakSA kA Ae taba to maiM usakA ziSya bana jaauuN| hamane to pahale se hI taya kiyA huA hai ki haraeka kA ziSya bana jAnA hai, tAki use ar3acana nahIM pdd'e| jo ziSya banatA hai, vahI khuda apanA guru banegA, isalie sAvadhAnI se clnaa| isalie gurupanA mata kara baitthnaa| aura usa vyakti ke ziSya bana jAe~ to hameM kyA phAyadA hotA hai? hama usake hI guru bana cuke hote haiM ! use ar3acana Ae taba use pUchane AnA par3atA hai! praznakartA : vaha samajha meM nahIM AyA, daadaa| dAdAzrI : hama ziSya bane, isalie saMbaMdha sthApita ho gyaa| isalie phira se vaha hamAre pAsa ziSya banakara aaegaa| hama usake ziSya nahIM bane hote to vaha hamAre pAsa AtA nahIM aura lAbha uThAtA nhiiN| saMsAra - pArasparika saMbaMdha vyavahAra ke saMbaMdha cyuta svabhAva ke haiM aura Apa acyuta ho| saMsAra ke saMbaMdha kaba TUTa jAe~, usakA kyA bharosA? praznakartA : aise hI haiN| aisA to anubhava meM A cukA hai| dAdAzrI : tujhe bhI anubhava meM A gayA? terI mammI bhI cyuta svabhAva kI hai? praznakartA : haaN| dAdAzrI : hara kisI ke sAtha cyuta honevAlA saMbaMdha hai, paraMtu vaha to hameM mana meM samajhanA hai, vyavahAra meM to aisA bolanA hai, 'mammI, mujhe Apake bagaira acchA nahIM lagatA!' / mammI bhI bolatI hai, 'beTe, mujhe tere binA acchA nahIM lagatA!' aura aMdara samajhatI hai ki, ye cyuta svabhAva ke haiN| yaha saba DrAmeTika hai| Apa bhItara 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' aisA samajho aura ina 'caMdUbhAI' ke nAma kA nATaka karanA hai| isa DrAme meM rAga-dveSa nahIM hotaa| DrAme meM mAra-piTAI karate haiM,

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AptavANI-6 lar3AI karate haiM, lekina bhItara rAga-dveSa nahIM rahate haiN| yaha DrAmA jo cala rahA hai usakI to tU riharsala karake hI AyA hai / isalie to 'vyavasthita' hai, aisA hama kahate haiM, nahIM to kabhI kA yaha saba badala nahIM dete ? 158 isa duniyA meM DrAmA karane kI bajAya loga, yadi kalekTara kI jagaha milI ho to vaha ghara para sIdhA baiThA rahatA hai, lekina oNphisa kI kursI meM to Ar3A ho jAtA hai| hama ghara para jAe~ to, 'Aie, baiThie' aura kursI meM ho to Upara dekhatA bhI nahIM ! ' kyA yaha kursI tujhe kATatI hai?' vaha tujhe pAgalapana lagA detI hai? 'maiM hU~, maiM hU~' karatA hai| are, kisameM hai tU? ghara para to tujhe patnI jhir3akatI hai ! kucha to samajhanA cAhie na? sabake sAtha pArasparika saMbaMdha haiN| jagat arthAt kyA? paraspara sdbhaavnaa| kalekTara ho yA phira naukara ho, paraMtu paraspara sadbhAvanA honI cAhie aura helpiMga necara honA cAhie, oblAijiMga necara honA cAhie!

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[22] Apako duHkha hai hI kahA~? isa saMsAra meM Apako duHkha hai hI kahA~? duHkha to aspatAla meM hai, jahA~ paira U~cA bA~dhA huA hai! bhayaMkara jale hue loga haiM, unheM duHkha hai| Apa para duHkha hI kyA par3A hai? yoM hI zora macAte rahate ho, binA bAta ke! inheM to chaha-chaha mahInoM kI jela meM DAla denA cAhie! Apa acchI cIz2a ko kharAba kahate ho, to kharAba ko kyA kahoge? aspatAla meM jahA~ duHkha hai, use du:kha kaho aura duHkha nahIM ho use du:kha kaise kahA jAe? hama hamArI jiMdagI meM kabhI bhI, 'du:kha hai', aisA nahIM bole haiN| aisA to bolate hoMge? Apa kyA mUrkha AdamI haiM? do Ane, cAra Ane, ATha Ane, bAraha Ane, sabhI eka jaisA? du:kha to aspatAlavAloM ko hai| ina baMgaloM meM, palaMga meM soe hue haiM, unheM nahIM hai| paira Upara bAMdhe hue hoM, jale hue hoM, unheM Apa dekhakara Ao to khuda ko duHkha nahIM hai, aisA AbhAsa hogaa| kudarata ke lie Apa ko AnaMda hogA ki 'ohoho! kudarata ne kitanI acchI plesa (sthAna) mujhe dI hai! yaha to logoM ko bhAna hI nahIM hai na? inhoMne to acche kI bhI burAI kI aura kamaz2ora kI bhI burAI kI! burAIyA~ karanA, sirpha yahI kAma hai| ise mAnavatA kaise kaheMge? kise takalIpha kahanA, usakI limiTa honI cAhie yA nahIM? 'Aja mujhe bhUkha nahIM lagI, Aja mujhe yaha takalIpha hai', yaha to kaisI 'meDanesa'? mere paira meM phrekcara ho gayA thA, taba kucha loga paira meM laTakAyA huA vaz2ana dekhakara kahate the, 'Apako bhagavAna ne aisA du:kha kisalie diyA hogA? aba, bhagavAna to haiM hI nahIM!'

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160 AptavANI-6 are bhAI, mujhe kahA~ duHkha diyA hai? vaha to Apako aisA lagatA hai| ise duHkha nahIM kahate, duHkha to yahA~ para cheda karake khAnA par3e, yahA~ para cheda karake pezAba karanA par3e, use duHkha kahate haiN| ye choTe bacce haiM, unheM bahuta duHkha hotA hai becAroM ko| use jaba duHkha hotA hai taba rotA z2arUra hai, paraMtu bolatA nahIM ki 'mujhe yahA~ duHkha rahA hai!' aura ye abhAge loga bhojana karate samaya nau roTiyA~ khA jAte haiM aura kaheMge ki 'maiM duHkhI hU~!' kyA kaheM ina logoM ko? duHkha kI paribhASA honI cAhie yA nahIM honI cAhie? aura sukha kI paribhASA honI cAhie ki 'sukha kise kahate haiM?' saMsAra meM sukha apAra hai paraMtu loga bhoga nahIM pAte! kaise sukha haiM! khIra bhI sAtha meM milatI hai aura mAlapUA bhI milatA hai, vaha bhI phira asalI ghI ke! ghArI (eka prakAra kI miThAI) milatI hai, dAla, cAvala, sabjI mileM, phira bhI ye du:khI! ina manuSyoM ke sivA dUsare sabhI jAnavaroM ko pUchakara Ao ki, 'duHkha hai?' isI taraha manuSyoM meM bhI halkI qauma meM pUchakara Ao? praznakartA : lekina Apa to kahate haiM ki ghArI khAnI hai aura phira usameM tanmaya nahIM honA hai| dAdAzrI : vaha ApakI lAina kI bAta hai| Apako jaisA rAja karanA Ae, vaisA rAja karo! kaise sukha sAmane Akara khar3e haiM, taba duHkha kA gAnA gAte rahate haiM! __isa jagat meM kabhI bhI rone-dhone jaisA hai hI nhiiN| sirpha bIsaikkIsa varSa kI javAna lar3akI ho aura usakA koI baccA vagairaha nahIM ho aura vaha vidhavA ho gaI ho, to usake lie rone-dhone jaisA hai| ronAdhonA, yAnI kleza karane jaisI to koI vastu hai hI nahIM jagat meM! phira bhI pUrA dina kleza, kleza aura kleza! are, kyA par3he? Apane kaisI par3hAI kI hai? ise par3hanA-likhanA kaheMge hI nahIM na? 'thyorI oNpha rileTiviTI' samajhanI cAhie na? sAsoM se pUche taba kaheMgI, 'merI bahU kharAba hai|' usI prakAra, sabhI

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AptavANI-6 161 bahuoM se pUche taba kaheMgI ki, 'merI sAsa kharAba hai!' are, aisA kaise ho sakatA hai? sabhI bahue~, sabhI sAseM kharAba haiM? ye jAnavara bhI kucha hada taka ke duHkhoM ko rispaoNnsa nahIM dete aura manuSya risponsa de dete haiM, itanI adhika phUlizanesa hai! ina logoM kA dRSTibiMdu 100 pratizata galata hai| praznakartA : sabhI 100 pratizata galata haiM, aisA kaise kaha sakate haiM? dAdAzrI : khulI A~khoM se aMdhe haiN| khulI A~khoM se aMdhe yAnI khuda ke hitAhita kA bhAna nahIM hai| maiM kyA bolU~ to hita, kyA karU~ to hita, aura maiM kyA jAnU~ to hita, vaha mAlUma hI nahIM hai| hara kisI cIz2a meM nakala karane meM zUravIra ho gae haiM! sabakucha badala gayA hai| apane hindustAna ke loga to kisI kI nakala karate hI nahIM the| asala meM to hamArI nakala pUre jagat ne kI hai| yaha maoNDarna jamAnA AyA hai, usase mujhe dikkata nahIM hai| maiM samajhatA hU~ ki yaha yuga hai, to yaha yuga isa taraha se calatA hI rhegaa| maiM yuga se dUra nahIM rahatA, paraMtu yaha hita kiyA yA ahita kiyA, vaha maiM samajhatA huuN| ina logoM ne saMpUrNa ahita kiyA hai| ___mujhe bhale hI kitanA bhI buqhAra Ae lekina gharavAloM ne kisIne kabhI bhI jAnA nhiiN| usameM kyA batAnA? ye loga buqhAravAle nahIM haiM? inheM kyA batAnA? ye to phira bhUla jAe~ge becAre! 'maiM to anaMta zaktivAlA hU~' mujhe bhalA ina logoM ko kyA batAnA? ye loga to 'buqhAra hai, buqhAra hai' karake phira tharmAmITara lAkara lagAte haiM ! 100 DigrI, 101 DigrI, 102 DigrI aise ginate rahate haiM! are, yaha to buqhAra patA lagAne kA sAdhana hai| sAdhya vastu nahIM! mujhe duHkha hai aisA kahate ho? duHkha to thA 'rileTiva' meM, vaha 'riyala' meM nahIM thaa| vaha Aropita thaa| jahA~ para Apa nahIM ho, vahA~ para du:kha mAnA gayA hai, 'roMga bilIfa' se! 25 pratizata thA, use Apane kahA ki 'mujhe yaha duHkha par3A hai' aisA bole, ki vaha 100 pratizata ho gayA!

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162 AptavANI-6 praznakartA : maiM zarIra ke sAtha ekAkAra ho gyaa| isalie mujhe 25 pratizata ke badale 100 pratizata duHkha mahasUsa hotA hai| dAdAzrI : pUrA saMsAra 'maiM hI caMdUbhAI hU~' aisA hI samajhatA hai| yaha to, aisA judA vyavahAra, Apa aba sIkhe! praznakartA : lekina yadi aba kaheM 'du:kha caMdUbhAI ko hai' to duHkha 25 pratizata kA 25 pratizata hI rahegA na? dAdAzrI : hA~, phira bar3hegA nhiiN| nahIM to 100 pratizata ho jAtA hai| yaha to logoM ko bhAna hI nahIM hai| ve duHkha ko balki bar3hA dete haiN| khuda ke du:khoM kA varNana karake duHkha ko balki bar3hA dete haiM! loga ciMtA karate rahate haiM na? yaha ciMtA karane kI bhI hada hotI hai| sabhI kahIM 'jJAnI' nahIM hote ki jinheM ciMtA hotI hI nhiiN| yAnI usakA koI niyama hogA yA nahIM hogA? kaba taka ciMtA karanI? ciMtA yAnI ciMtanA karate rahanA ki aba kyA karU~gA? yaha to bhagavAna ko burA-bhalA kahate haiM, kudarata ko burA-bhalA kahate haiM ! phira nyAya jaisA rahA hI kahA~? DhAI varSa kA baccA, choTA baccA mara jAe, to bhI rote haiM aura bAIsa varSa kA vivAhita mara jAe, to bhI rote haiM, aura paiMsaTha varSa kA bUr3hA mara jAe, to bhI rote haiM! taba tujhe isameM kyA samajha AyA? kahA~ ronA hai aura kahA~ para nahIM ronA, vaha samajhatA hI nahIM! praznakartA : isa prakAra buddhi kA upayoga to kabhI huA hI nhiiN| dAdAzrI : vaha nahIM hogA, taba taka jagat meM sukha kisa taraha ho pAegA? manuSyoM ko, jAnavaroM ko sukha hI hai| manuSyoM ko koI duHkha hotA hogA? sirpha itanA hI hai ki inheM bhoganA nahIM aataa| yaha bAta sabhI manovaijJAnikoM ko denI hai| isase bhI Age kI bAta hai| 'yaha' 'bulabulA' nahIM phUTe, taba taka kAma niklegaa| phUTa gayA to khatma ho gayA!

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AptavANI-6 163 hastAkSara ke binA mRtyu bhI nahIM yAtrA meM jAnevAle the, cAra baje gAr3I meM baiThanevAle the, ve sabhI loga cAra-cAra mahIne pahale se jAnate the na? aura marate samaya kyoM nahIM kahate ki mujhe jAnA hai? yaha to TheTha taka aisA nahIM khtaa| mana meM AzA hI rakhatA hai ki abhI koI davAI aisI AegI aura mela baiTha jAegA ! aura rAta ko phira aMdara bahuta duHkha par3e, taba phira vahI khuda kahatA hai ki isake bajAya chUTa jAU~ to acchA ! yaha maranA hai, vaha bhI hastAkSara kie binA nahIM AtA! ye inkamaTeksavAle hara eka bAta meM pahale hastAkSara karavAte haiN| usI taraha marane meM bhI pahale hastAkSara hote haiM, usake bAda hI marA jAtA hai ! praznakartA : hastAkSara nahIM kare to mauta nahIM AegI na? dAdAzrI : hastAkSara nahIM karegA to mauta nahIM aaegii| ye saba hastAkSara kara dete hoMge yA nahIM? praznakartA : eksiDenTa se jo mara jAte haiM, ve to kahA~ se hastAkSara kareMge? dAdAzrI : usane bhI hastAkSara kie hue hote haiM / hastAkSara kie binA to kabhI marA hI nahIM jA sakatA / usake binA to marane kA adhikAra hI nahIM hai| mRtyu to ApakI mAlikI kI hai, usameM aura kisI kI daqhala nahIM hotii| aura eka bAra Apake hastAkSara ho gae phira ApakA nahIM clegaa| praznakartA : isa janma meM hastAkSara kie the yA pichale janma meM? dAdAzrI : isa janma meM hI hastAkSara kara die hote hai| pichale janma meM to usakI yojanA ke rUpa meM hotA hai, paraMtu rUpaka meM isa janma meM hI AtA hai| maiM aura mere mAmA ke beTe rAvajIbhAI eka dina bAhara so rahe the I aMdara se merI bA (mAtAjI) bolIM, 'he bhagavAna! aba chUTa jAU~ to acchA!' maiMne rAvajIbhAI se kahA, 'dekho, ye bA ne hastAkSara kara die !' kyoMki bhItara

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AptavANI-6 duHkha hotA hai, vaha sahana nahIM hotA taba manuSya bhAva kara detA hai ki are, chUTa jAe~ to acchaa| vaha hastAkSara kara detA hai / praznakartA : abhAnatA meM hastAkSara kara die| 164 T dAdAzrI : abhAnatA meM nahIM, bhAna sahita hastAkSara kara dete haiM / phira dUsare dina subaha pUcheM ki, 'ApakA yahA~ se jAne kA vicAra huA hai yA kyA?' taba kaheMge, 'nahIM bhAI, merA zarIra acchA hai / ' praznakartA : janma lekara turaMta mara jAte haiM, vaha kyA hai? dAdAzrI : una sabake bhAva to aMdara ho hI jAte haiM, aMdara usakA hisAba ho hI jAtA hai| hisAba hue bagaira kahIM mRtyu nahIM aatii| acAnaka kucha bhI nahIM AtA / saba insiDenTa haiM, eksiDenTa nahIM hote / hArTa aTeka Ae taba bahuta darda hotA hai, usa ghar3I eka thor3A sA aisA bhAva ho jAtA hai ki, 'mukta ho jAe~ to acchA', aura phira jaba aMdara z2arA zAMta par3e taba bolatA hai, 'DaoNkTara mujhe ThIka kara do, hA~! DaoNkTara, mujhe ThIka kara do!' are, lekina hastAkSara kara die the vahA~ para to ? mRtyu se pahale kyoM nahIM socatA ? 'mujhe kala ahamadAbAda jAnA hai' aisA taya karatA hai athavA to 'mujhe yAtrA meM jAnA hai' aisA cAra mahIne pahale se hI taya kara letA hai, lekina isa mRtyu meM to koI taya hI nahIM karatA aura usakA vicAra Ae to bhI vicAra badala detA hai ki, 'nahIM, nahIM, aisA kucha nahIM hai| vaha to sirpha vicAra A rahe haiM, merA zarIra to bahuta acchA hai| abhI aura bhI pacAsa varSa jIe, aisA hai / ' bAkI, jo niSpakSapAtI ho, use to saba patA cala jAtA hai| boriyAbistara bA~dha rahe hoM to patA nahIM calegA ki ye jAne kI taiyArI kara rahe haiM! aMdara boriyA-bistara baMdha rahe hote haiM, ve hameM dikhate bhI haiM, phira bhI aMdara dekheM nahIM to apanI hI bhUla hai na? aura pahale to kucha loga itane saralakarmI the ki ve kahate bhI the 'pA~ca dina bAda, ekAdazI ke dina merA chuTakArA hai' aura usake anusAra hotA bhI thA ! taba kyA dUsaroM ke lie

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AptavANI-6 165 kucha alaga niyama haiM? niyama vahI kA vahI hai| yaha to isakA moha hai| marate samaya ghara ke loga kaheMge ki 'cAcA, aba Apa maMtra bolo', phira bhI vaha nahIM boltaa| Upara se cAcA kyA kahatA hai, 'yaha beakla hai na?' lo, yaha akla kA borA! bAz2Ara meM becane jAe~ to cAra Ane bhI nahIM de koI! cAcA kA jIva beTI kA vivAha karane meM aTakA hotA hai, vaha mana meM socatA rahatA hai ki yaha raha gaI hai| jo niSpakSapAtI ho cuke hoM, unheM mRtyu kA patA kaise nahIM calegA? mRtyu kA use bhaya lagatA hai! dUsare gA~va jAne kA, yAtrA meM jAne kA use bhaya nahIM lagatA! kyoMki usake mana meM aisA hotA hai ki maiM vApasa AU~gA, 'are vApasa AyA yA na bhI AyA! usakA to kyA ThikAnA?' hama to sTImara ke kAna meM phUMka mArate haiM ki 'tujhe jaba DUbanA ho taba DUbanA, hamArI icchA nahIM hai|' sTImara to phAyade ke lie pAnI meM utArA, vaha pAnI hai, to eka dina DUba bhI sakatA hai! aise hI isa deha se kaheM, "tujhe chUTanA ho taba chUTa jAnA, merI icchA nahIM hai!' kyoMki niyama itanA acchA hai ki kisI ko bhI chor3anevAlA nahIM hai, yahA~ para kahIM kisI ko dayA Ae aisA nahIM hai| isalie bekAra hI binA kAma ke dayA kisalie mA~gate ho ki 'he bhagavAna, bacAnA!' bhagavAna to kisa taraha bacAe~ge? bhagavAna khuda hI nahIM bace the na! jinhoMne yahA~ janma liyA thA, ve sabhI bhagavAna bace nahIM the na! kRSNa bhagavAna paira car3hAkara aise so rahe the| to usa zikArI ne dekhA aura use aisA lagA ki yaha hiraNa-viraNa vagairaha hai, aura tIra mArA! mRtyu kisI ko bhI chor3atI nahIM, kyoMki yaha apanA svarUpa nahIM hai| apane svarUpa meM koI nAma bhI nahIM legaa| yadi 'Apa' zaddhAtmA ho, to koI nAma lenevAlA nahIM hai, to 'Apa' paramAtmA hI ho! paraMtu yahA~ kisI ke sasura bananA ho taba muzkila! praznakartA : deha jaba chUTanA ho taba chUTe, hamArI icchA nahIM hai, aisA kahane kA kyA Azaya hai? dAdAzrI : vaha to deha ke prati tiraskAra utpanna nahIM ho isalie kahate haiM ki hamArI icchA nahIM hai!

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166 AptavANI-6 praznakartA : ye do vAkya kahanevAlA kauna hai? dAdAzrI : vaha to jo mRtyu se pare hai, usI ke hoMge na! praznakartA : vaha pratiSThita AtmA kahalAtA hai? dAdAzrI : nahIM, pratiSThita AtmA to mRtyuvAlA hai, yaha saba prajJA kA kAma hai ! pratiSThita AtmA maranevAlA hai, vaha to bolegA hI nahIM na aisA? praznakartA : jisameM prajJA utpanna nahIM huI ho, sabhI meM prajJA to utpanna nahIM huI hotI hai, phira bhI aisA bole, to kauna bolatA hai? dAdAzrI : vaha maranevAle se alaga hI hotA hai| maranevAlA khuda aisA nahIM kahatA ki maiM mara jAU~, vahA~ para buddhi kA kucha bhAga aise bhAvavAlA hotA hai ! sthitaprajJA kI dazA kA kahate haiM na, vaha bhAga, lekina kisI ko hI aisA vicAra AtA hai, sabhI ko to nahIM AtA na! ___ ApakA bigAr3anevAlA kauna? Apako jaldabAz2I ho aura 'jaldI jaldI khAnA paroso' aisA kahate ho, to dAla nikAlane jAte hue aura pUrI patIlI gira jAe, vahA~ para kyA dazA hogI? usa ghar3I z2arA jAgRta rahanA hai| kyoMki jo Apake lie banAnevAle haiM, unhoMne Apako khilAne ke lie banAI hai| usameM banAnevAle kI bhUla nahIM hai| phira bhI Apa kyA kahate ho? ki 'tUne Dhola dii|' are, unhoMne nahIM DholI hai, unhoMne to tere lie banAI hai| DholanevAlI zakti dUsarI hai, paraMtu huA inake mAdhyama se| isalie ApakA koI bigAr3a sake, aisA nahIM hai| isa duniyA meM kisI meM bigAr3ane kI zakti hI nahIM hai| isa duniyA meM koI aisA janmA hI nahIM ki koI hamArA bigAr3a ske| ye to sArI kudaratI zaktiyA~ kAma kara rahI haiN| jaba ki ye loga mujhe kahate haiM ki ye cora loga kyoM Ae hoMge? ina saba jeba kATanevAloM kI kyA z2arUrata hai? bhagavAna ne kisalie unheM janma diyA hogA? are, ve nahIM hoMge to tumhArI jeba kauna khAlI karegA? bhagavAna khuda Ae~ge? ApakA corI kA

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AptavANI-6 167 dhana kauna le jAegA? ApakA dhana galata hogA to kauna le jAegA? vaha to, unakI bhI z2arUrata hai| ve nimitta haiM becAre! ina sabhI kI z2arUrata hai| praznakartA : kisI kI pasIne kI kamAI calI jAtI hai| dAdAzrI : vaha jo pasIne kI calI jAtI hai, usake pIche bhI rahasya hai| vaha isa janma kI pasIne kI lagatI hai, paraMtu sArA pahale kA hisAba hai| bahIkhAte saba bAqI haiM islie| nahIM to kabhI bhI apanA koI kucha le nahIM sktaa| kisI kI aisI zakti hI nahIM hai| aura yadi le le to jAnanA ki apanA hI koI Age-pIche kA hisAba hai| itanA adhika niyamavAlA yaha jagata hai| sA~pa bhI chUe nahIM, yaha sArA A~gana sA~pa se bharA huA ho paraMtu koI bhI sA~pa use chU nahIM sakegA, itanA adhika niyamavAlA jagat hai| bahuta suMdara jagat hai| saMpUrNa nyAyasvarUpa hai, phira bhI logoM ko samajha meM nahIM Ae aura khuda kI bhASA meM boleM to kyA hogA? prIkaoNzana, vahI 'caMcalatA' / praznakartA : yadi barasAta ho jAe to 'aisA kareMge' aisA ho, to kyA vaha vikalpa kahalAtA hai? sahaja bhAva se saba socanA to paDegA na? socane ke bAda jo ho vaha ThIka hai, paraMtu aise socanA, vaha kyA daqhala kiyA, aisA kahA jAegA yA vikalpa kiyA, aisA kahA jAegA? dAdAzrI : jisane 'jJAna' nahIM liyA ho, usake lie vaha saba vikalpa hI khlaaegaa| jisane 'jJAna' liyA ho aura samajha gayA ho, use phira vikalpa nahIM rhte| zuddhAtmA ke taura para 'hameM' z2arA sA bhI socanA hI nahIM hotaa| apane Apa hI jo Ae~, una vicAroM ko jAnanA hotA hai! praznakartA : usakA artha aisA huA ki koI prikaoNzana lenI hI nahIM cAhie? dAdAzrI : prikaoNzana to hotI hoMgI? apane Apa ho jAe, vahI prikoNshn| isameM prikaoNzana lenevAlA kauna rahA aba? dina dahAr3e Apa Thokara khAte ho (ciMtA, kaSAya, matabheda hote haiM)!

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168 AptavANI-6 usameM prikaoNzana lenevAle Apa kauna? kyA manuSya prikaoNzana le sakatA hai? usameM saMDAsa jAne kI svataMtra zakti bhI nahIM, vahA~ para? pUrA jagat prikaoNzana letA hai, phira bhI kyA eksiDenTa nahIM hote? jahA~ prikaoNzana nahIM hote, vahA~ kyA eksiDenTa nahIM hote! prikaoNzana lenA, vaha eka prakAra kI caMcalatA hai! z2arUrata se z2yAdA caMcalatA hai| usakI z2arUrata hI nahIM hai| jagat apane Apa sahaja rUpa se calatA hI rahatA hai| praznakartA : lekina sAvadhAnI kartAbhAva se nahIM, paraMtu oNTomeTika to hogI na? dAdAzrI : vaha to apane Apa ho hI jAtI hai| praznakartA : kartA nahIM, paraMtu vicAra sahaja rUpa se Ae~ to phira vivekabuddhi se karanA cAhie, aisA? dAdAzrI : nahIM, apane Apa hI saba ho jAtA hai| Apako' 'dekhate' rahanA hai ki kyA hotA hai? apane Apa sabakucha hI ho jAtA hai! aba bIca meM Apa kauna rahe, vaha mujhe batAo? Apa 'zuddhAtmA' ho yA 'caMdUbhAI' ho? praznakartA : Apa kahate haiM ki bIca meM Apa kauna? to bIca meM mana to hai na? dAdAzrI : mana ke lie hamane kahA~ manA kiyA hai? mana meM to apane Apa hI kudaratI rUpa se vicAra Ate rahate haiM! aura kabhI vicAra nahIM bhI Ate! aisA hai. mana to aMtima avatAra meM bhI pratikSaNa calatA rahatA hai, sirpha itanA hI ki taba mana gA~ThavAlA nahIM hotaa| jaise udaya Ae~, vaisA hotA hai! jJAna ke bAda Apa 'zuddhAtmA' ho aura vyavahAra se 'caMdUbhAI' ho! aba 'maiM caMdUbhAI hU~, maiM isakA mAmA hU~, isakA cAcA hU~', use vyavahAra meM vikalpa kahA jAtA hai, paraMtu vAstava meM yaha vikalpa nahIM hai| yaha to DiscArja svarUpa hai| yadi khuda mAna baiThe ki 'maiM hI caMdUbhAI hU~', to vaha vikalpa khlaaegaa| 'jJAna' ke bAda 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~', to vaha nirvikalpa ho jAtA hai|

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[23] buddhizAlI to kaisA hotA hai? praznakartA : buddhizAlI kise kahA jAtA hai? dAdAzrI : jo apane ghara meM, vyavasAya meM, cAhe kahIM bhI kama se kama TakarAva khar3A ho, isa prakAra se vyavahAra kare, vaha buddhizAlI kahalAtA hai| varnA sAmanevAle ko rAjI rakhane ke lie paMDitAI kare, vaha eka prakAra kA ovaravAiz2apana hai| buddhi se sAmanevAle ko helpa honI caahie| subaha cAya aura miThAI AI, to hama miThAI khAkara cAya pIe~ aura phira zora macAe~ ki 'cAya kyoM phIkI hai', to use buddhizAlI kaise kaheMge? aura zAyada kabhI cAya phIkI AI bhI ho, taba bhI kyoM zora macAe~? cAra Ane kI cAya ke lie zora macAne se ghara meM becAre kitane loga kA~pa jAte haiM! buddhizAlI to use kahate haiM ki koI vyakti usase ghabarAe nahIM, usa taraha buddhi kA upayoga karatA ho| aura jahA~ para dUsarA koI ghabarA jAtA hai, vahA~ para kubuddhi hai| usase bhayaMkara pApa baMdhate haiN| yAnI ki buddhi ke bhAga to samajhane cAhie na? hamase ghara para kisI kI helpa nahIM mile, matabheda nahIM ghaTeM, to usa buddhi kA kyA karanA hai? aura vyavasAya meM bhI ghATA ho jAe, vaha svAbhAvika hai, paraMtu vyavasAya kI marammata meM bhUla nahIM honI caahie| Apako kyA lagatA hai? praznakartA : ThIka hai|

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170 AptavANI-6 dAdAzrI : hama to yahA~ para spaSTatA karane ke lie baiThe haiN| 'ThIka hai', aisA kahalavAne ke lie nhiiN| praznakartA : kisI jagaha para kapaTa ho rahA ho, ghara meM yA bAhara to dhamakAnA par3atA hai na? dAdAzrI : apane dhamakAne se yadi sAmanevAle kA kapaTa miTe to dhamakAnA cAhie, paraMtu kapaTa hamezA banA rahe to DarAne kA koI artha nhiiN| Apako dhamakAnA nahIM aataa| aisA karake Apako jela meM DAla denA cAhie ki 'inheM kyoM dhamakAyA?' praznakartA : dhamakAe~ nahIM, to aura kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : vaha kisa taraha se sudhare, vaha dekhnaa| praznakartA : apane sAtha koI kapaTa kare to svAbhAvika rUpa se usake Upara gussA to AegA na? dAdAzrI : pA~ca bAra gussA hone se usakA kapaTa yadi calA jAtA ho to ThIka hai, aura nahIM jAe to Apako jela meM DAla denA caahie| isa davAI se use ThIka nahIM hotA! balki aisI davAI pilAkara use mAra DAlate ho? praznakartA : vaha manuSya usI taraha calatA hai| phira usakA kyA upAya kareM? dAdAzrI : yaha ApakA upAya hI hAnikAraka hai| yaha upAya nahIM hai| yaha to eka prakAra kA igoiz2ama hai| maiM ise aise sudhArU~, vaise sudhArU~, yaha igoiz2ama hai| hama kyA kahanA cAhate haiM ki 'pahale tU sudhr|' sirpha Apa hI bigar3e hue ho, vaha to sudharA huA hI hai! yaha to Apa sabhI ko DarAkara parezAna karate ho, vaha Apako zobhA nahIM detaa| praznakartA : to phira kyA karU~? dAdAzrI : khuda ko badalanA hai| khuda aisA bana jAe ki kabhI bhI

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AptavANI-6 171 koI usake pAsa kapaTa kare hI nhiiN| mere pAsa koI kapaTa karatA hI nhiiN| apane mana meM kapaTa ho tabhI sAmanevAlA vyakti kapaTa karatA hai| apane mana meM kapaTa nahIM ho to koI kapaTa karatA hI nahIM! apanA hI phoTo hai yaha sArA! praznakartA : apanA lena-dena hogA, isalie sAmanevAlA kapaTa karatA hai? dAdAzrI : hisAba ko to hama leTa go karate haiN| hisAba kA nivAraNa ho sake, aisA nahIM hai| hisAba to, jo mujhe milA hai, usakA bhI nivAraNa nahIM ho sktaa| Apase kucha bhI badalA jA sake, aisA nahIM hai| yaha zora macAne kA artha hI kyA hai phira? usakA kapaTa to vaise kA vaisA hI rahatA hai, balki vaha use bar3hAtA jAtA hai| Apane zora macAyA to vaha mana hI mana kahegA ki 'inameM kucha barakata nahIM hai aura bekAra hI zora macA rahe haiM!' aise vaha khuda kI bhUla bar3hAtA hI jAtA hai aura Apako pI jAtA hai! praznakartA : usakA rAstA kyA? dAdAzrI : usa para apanA aisA prabhAva par3e ki vaha kapaTa hI nahIM kre| hameM ye dUsare saba tarIke apanAne kI z2arUrata nahIM hai| gussA karate ho, isake badale mauna raho n| gussA, vaha hathiyAra nahIM hai| praznakartA : kapaTa se koI vyakti mAla kI corI karatA ho, to hameM dekhate rahanA hai? dAdAzrI : usake lie gussA, vaha hathiyAra nahIM hai| anya kisI hathiyAra kA upayoga karo aura baiThAkara use samajhAo, vicAraNA karane ko kaho, to saba ThikAne para A jaaegaa| praznakartA : DaoNkTara ne kahA ki, 'Apako blaDa prezara hai', to use kucha cIjeM nahIM khAnI cAhie, phira bhI vaha nahIM mAne aura khAe, to mujhe DaoNkTara ke pAsa daur3anA hI par3egA na?

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172 AptavANI-6 dAdAzrI : merA kahanA hai ki DaoNkTara ko hI blaDa prezara hotA hai na! 'vaha kisa AdhAra para khAtA hai' vaha Apa jAnate nahIM ho / Apa to eka bAra kahakara dekho ki 'DaoNkTara ne Apako mirca khAne ke lie manA kiyA hai'| phira yadi ApakA prabhAva par3A to ThIka aura nahIM par3A to bhI tthiik| ApakA bhI prabhAva nahIM par3egA aura DaoNkTara kA bhI prabhAva nahIM par3egA / praznakartA : hama mirca khAte raheM aura dUsare kI mirca baMda karavAe~ to usakA prabhAva nahIM par3egA na ? dAdAzrI : vaisA maiM karavAtA hI nhiiN| mujhe jitanA tyAga baratatA hai, utanA hI tyAga maiM Apase karavAtA hU~, aura vaha bhI ApakI icchA ho taba, nahIM to maiM kahatA hU~ ki zAdI kara le bhAI / le zAdI kara ! hama kaca-kaca kareM ki acAra mata khAnA, mircI mata khaanaa| to ve mana meM cir3hate rahate haiM ki yaha kahA~ se sAmane AyA ? Apake mana meM kabhI aisA hotA hai ki maiM nahIM hoU~gA to kyA hogA? to phira 'hama nahIM hI haiM' aisA mAna lo ! binA bAta ke igoiz2ama karane ke bajAya 'mircI mata khAnA' DaoNkTara kA vaha jJAna hameM hAz2ira karanA caahie| paraMtu use svIkAra karanA yA nahIM karanA, vaha to usakI marz2I kI bAta hai| maiMne kisI se kahA ho ki, aisA karanA / taba vaha kucha alaga hI karatA hai| taba maiM usase kahatA hU~ ki, 'aisA karane se bhalA kyA phAyadA hogA?' taba vaha kahatA hai ki aba se nahIM karU~gA / usake badale maiM yadi aisA kahU~, 'tU kyoM karatA hai? tU aisA hai aura tU vaisA hai|' taba vaha Dha~kegA, opana nahIM kregaa| praznakartA : aisI kuzalatA kyA ekadama se A jAtI hai?

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AptavANI-6 173 dAdAzrI : nahIM, vaha to aisA sunA huA ho, to kabhI A sakatI hai| jJAna sunA huA ho to kAma aaegaa| maiM apanI taraha se kaise 'jagatjIta' banA hU~, vaha Apako batAtA huuN| aMta meM jagat ko jItanA to par3egA hI na? daqhala nahIM, 'dekhate' raho! calatI gAr3I meM daqhala nahIM karanI caahie| apane Apa hI vaha calatI rhegii| usameM kucha rukegA nhiiN| praznakartA : isane inTaraphiyara(daqhala) kiyA aisA kahate haiM, vahI daqhala kA artha hai? dAdAzrI : inTaraphiyara to hotA hI nahIM caahie| use daqhala hI kahA jaaegaa| daqhala hotI hai, taba gar3abar3a ho jAtI hai| jo cala rahA hai use calate rahane denA pdd'egaa| apanI yaha Trena cala rahI ho aura usameM kucha khaTaka-khaTaka ho rahA ho to usa ghar3I hameM jaMjIra khIMcakara zora macAnA cAhie? nahIM, use calate hI rahane denA caahie| praznakartA : yaha z2arA cU~-yU~ bola rahI ho to bhI nIce phira oNila DAlane jAtA hai| dAdAzrI : hA~, jAtA hai| daqhala karane kI z2arUrata nahIM hai| kyA cala rahA hai, use dekhate' rhnaa| aura hama yadi daqhala kareM, taba hamArI to kyA dazA hogI? jo hotA hai use calane denaa| praznakartA : galata ho to bhI calane deM? dAdAzrI : Apa kyA galata aura sahI ko calAnevAle the? manuSyoM meM calAne kI zakti hI nahIM hai| yaha to jhUThA ahaMkAra karatA hai ki maiM galata calane hI nahIM dUMgA, usase balki jhagar3e hote haiM, daqhala hotI haiN| kisI se galata ho rahA ho to hameM use samajhAnA cAhie, nahIM to mauna rahanA caahie|

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174 AptavANI-6 praznakartA : paraMtu hamAre prati anyAya ho rahA ho to? dAdAzrI : anyAya huA to mAra khAo na ArAma se! nahIM to phira bhI, jAoge kahA~? korTa meM jAkara vakIla DhU~Dha nikAlo, vakIla mila jAte haiM na? praznakartA : vakIla lAe~, vaha dakhalaaMdAz2I kahalAegI na? dAdAzrI : phira vakIla Apako jhir3akegA, 'beakla mUrkha loga! sAr3he dasa baje Ae, jaldI kyoM nahIM Ae?' vaha phira aise gAliyA~ degaa| isalie phira sIdhe rahakara Apa apanA jhaTapaTa nipaTA do n| daqhala meM utarane jaisA nahIM hai| yaha kAla vicitra hai| acchI taraha bolate hue maiMne kisI ko dekhA hI nhiiN| aisA bolate haiM ki hameM heDeka ho jaae| yaha to kahIM bhASA kahalAtI hogI? praznakartA : to isa hisAba se to acchA kahanA yA galata kahanA, vaha bhI dakhalaaMdAz2I huI na? dAdAzrI : kucha bolanA hI mt| vaha pUche utanA hI javAba denaa| laMbA jhaMjhaTa mata krnaa| hameM kyA lenA-denA? isakA aMta hI nahIM aaegaa|

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aMga ko bahuta dabAe~ to kyA hogA? eka [24] abalA kA kyA puruSArtha? praznakartA : krodha Ae to dabAnA cAhie yA nikAla denA cAhie? dAdAzrI : krodha dabAne se dabAyA jA sake, aisI cIz2a nahIM hai| vaha to Aja dabAyA, kala dabAyA, spriMga ko bahuta dabAe~ to kyA hogA? eka dina vaha pUrI uchala jaaegii| abhI Apa krodha ko tAtkAlika dabAte ho vaha ThIka hai, paraMtu kabhI na kabhI vaha nukasAnadeha hogaa| bhagavAna ne kyA kahA thA ki krodha kA vicArapUrvaka pRththakaraNa kara do| hAlA~ki vicArapUrvaka karane meM to kaI avatAra nikala jaaeNge| vicAra karane ke avasara se pahale to krodha ho jAtA hai| vaha to bahuta jAgRti ho, tabhI krodha nahIM hotA, paraMtu vaha jAgRti, apane yahA~ para jaba 'jJAna' dete haiM, taba utpanna hotI hai| phira krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha unakI 'bAunDrI' meM A jAte haiN| jAgRti utpanna ho jAtI hai| isalie Apako krodha hone se pahale hI jAgRti A jAtI hai aura pRththakaraNa hokara sabakucha samajha meM A jAtA hai ki kauna gunahagAra hai| hakIkata meM yaha kyA huA? saba samajha meM A jAtA hai, phira krodha karatA hI nahIM na? krodha karanA aura dIvAra para sira mAranA, ye donoM eka samAna haiN| usameM bilkula bhI pharka nahIM hai| ye krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha, ye saba kamaz2orI kahI jAtI haiM, aura vaha kamaz2orI jAe to paramAtmA prakaTa hoNge| kamaz2orI rUpI AvaraNa haiN| aura 'prijyuDisa' bahuta rahatA hai| eka vyakti ko jaisA mAna baiThe hoM, vaha hameM vaise kA vaisA hI lagatA rahatA hai| hamezA ke lie vaha vaisA nahIM rhtaa| prati sekanDa para parivartana hotA hai| pUrA jagat parivartanazIla hai| niraMtara parivartana hotA hI rahatA hai|

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176 AptavANI-6 yaha kamaz2orI khuda nikAlane jAoge to eka bhI nahIM jAegI, balki do aura ghusa jAe~gI, isalie jinakI kamaz2orI nikala gaI hai, unake pAsa jAo to vahA~ para ApakA hala A jaaegaa| saMsAra kA hala AegA hI nhiiN| pUrA jagat bhaTaka rahA hai| isakA kAraNa yahI hai ki taraNa tAraNahAra puruSa milane caahie| Apako pAra utaranA hai, vaha taya hai na? sulajhA huA vyavahAra, vahI sarala mokSamArga dAdAzrI : aba ve jo kamaz2oriyA~ haiM, krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha, rAgadveSa, ve kyA-kyA kAma karate haiM? kyA bhUmikA adA karate haiM? praznakartA : hairAna-parezAna kara dete haiN| gussA A jAtA hai| bAda meM jAgRti AtI hai ki hamane yaha galata kiyA hai| bAda meM kyA usake pratikramaNa karanA z2arUrI hai? dAdAzrI : apane gusse se sAmanevAle ko duHkha huA ho yA sAmanevAle ko kucha bhI nukasAna huA ho, taba Apako caMdUbhAI se kahanA cAhie ki, 'he caMdUbhAI, pratikramaNa kara lo, mAfI mA~ga lo|' sAmanevAlA vyakti yadi sarala nahIM ho, aura usake hama paira chUne jAe~ taba vaha Upara se hameM sira para mAregA ki dekho aba ThikAne AyA! bar3e ThikAne lAnevAle Ae ye loga! aise logoM ke sAtha jhaMjhaTa kama kara denA cAhie, paraMtu usakA gunAha to mAfa kara hI denA caahie| ve kitane bhI acche bhAva se yA kharAba bhAva se Apake pAsa AyA ho, paraMtu usake sAtha kaisA vyavahAra rakhanA, vaha Apako dekhanA hai| sAmanevAle kI prakRti Ter3hI ho to usa Ter3hI prakRti ke sAtha bhejAphor3I nahIM karanI caahie| prakRti se hI yadi vaha cora ho, Apa dasa varSa se use corI karate hue dekha rahe hoM aura vaha Akara Apake paira chU jAe to Apako kyA usa para vizvAsa rakhanA cAhie? vizvAsa nahIM rakha skte| corI kare, use hama mAfa kara deM ki 'tU jA, aba tU chUTa gayA, tere lie mere mana meM kucha nahIM rhegaa|' paraMtu usa para vizvAsa nahIM rakhanA cAhie aura usakA phira saMga bhI nahIM rakhanA caahie| phira bhI yadi saMga rakhA aura phira vizvAsa nahIM rakho to

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AptavANI-6 177 vaha bhI gunAha hai| vAstava meM saMga rakhanA hI mata aura rakho to usake lie pUrvagraha rahanA hI nahIM caahie| 'jo bhI ho, vaha ThIka hai' aisA rkhnaa| yaha to bahuta sUkSma 'sAinsa' hai| abhI taka aisA 'sAinsa' prakaTa nahIM huaa| hara eka bAta bilkula naI 'Diz2Aina' meM hai aura phira pUre 'varlDa' ko kAma meM Ae aisA hai| praznakartA : isase pUrA vyavahAra sudhara jAegA? dAdAzrI : hA~, vyavahAra sudhara jAegA aura logoM kA 'mokSamArga' sarala ho jaaegaa| vyavahAra sudhAranA, vahI sarala mokSamArga hai| yaha to mokSamArga lene jAte hue vyavahAra bigAr3ate rahate hai aura dinoM dina vyavahAra ulajhA diyA hai| bar3audA se ahamadAbAda jAte hue uttara meM 80 mIla hogA, aisA kahA ho, paraMtu loga dakSiNa kI tarafa caleM to kitane mIla bar3ha jAe~ge? TheTha kanyAkumArI taka kitane mIla ho jAegA? gAr3I kI spIDa cAhe jitanI bhI bar3hAe paraMtu ahamadAbAda dUra jAegA yA naz2adIka AegA? praznakartA : dUra jaaegaa| dAdAzrI : isI taraha logoM ne vyavahAra ulajhA diyA hai| taraha-taraha ke japa-tapa kisalie haiM? isIlie to 'akhA bhagata' cillA uThe the ki 'tyAga-tapa, vaha Ter3hI glii|' Ter3hI galI meM ghusA ki khatma ho gyaa| aba usa Ter3hI galIvAle se pUche to vaha kahegA ki, 'nahIM, hama mokSamArga meM haiN|' isa ora bhagavAna Ae~ aura unheM pUche ki, 'yaha kaisA hai sAhaba? ye donoM alaga-alaga taraha kA bola rahe haiN| inameM se kauna sahI hai?' taba bhagavAna kaheMge ki, "ise Ter3hI galI' kahate haiM, vaha bhI galata hai aura ye loga 'sahI mokSamArga hai', aisA kahate haiM, vaha bhI galata hai!" bhagavAna kA kahane kA bhAvArtha kyA hai ki, 'bhAI, vaha Ter3hI galI meM ho to usameM terA kyA gayA? tU apanI taraha se darzana karane jA na? bhagavAna bahuta sayAne hote haiN| unameM bahuta sayAnApana hotA hai, thor3I bhI bhUla nahIM hotI!

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178 AptavANI-6 kaSAyoM se karma baMdhana praznakartA : nAma ke prati moha kisa lie hai? dAdAzrI : kIrti ke lie! usI kI to sArI mAra khAI hai aba taka! nAma kA moha, vaha kIrti kahalAtA hai| kIrti ke lie mAra khaaii| aba, jaba kIrti ke bAda apakIrti Ae, taba bhayaMkara du:kha hotA hai| isalie kIrti-apakIrti se hameM pare honA hai| nAma kA bhI moha nahIM caahie| khuda apane Apa meM hI apAra sukha hai! mAna aura krodha, ve donoM dveSa haiM aura lobha va mAyA, ve rAga haiN| kapaTa, rAga meM jAtA hai| praznakartA : kisI ke bhaya kI vajaha se kapaTa karanA par3e to? dAdAzrI : usameM harja nahIM hai| vaha dUsare ko bahuta nukasAna karanevAlA nahIM hai na? kapaTa, 'sAmanevAle ko kitanA nukasAna karatA hai', usa para AdhAra rakhatA hai| abhI Apa satsaMga meM jAne ke lie kapaTa karo to vaha kapaTa nahIM mAnA jAegA, kyoMki kusaMga to bharapUra par3A huA hai hii| praznakartA : yaha kapaTa kA nimitta AyA, tabhI kapaTa kA bhAva huA na? dAdAzrI : nahIM, aisA nahIM hai| praznakartA : kyA bhAvakarma ba~dhavAne ke lie kapaTa kA nimitta AtA hai? dAdAzrI : sirpha kapaTa hI nahIM, usameM krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha. cAroM hI A jAte haiN| usase usakA aMdhA darzana khar3A ho jAtA hai| isalie aise darzana ke AdhAra para hI vaha sAre kAma karatA hai| yaha jaba hama jJAna dete haiM, taba usa darzana ko tor3ate haiN| kitane hI pApa bhasmIbhUta hone para vaha darzana TUTatA hai, aura vaha darzana TUTA ki kAma ho gayA! ina krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha ke kAraNa saMsAra khar3A rahA hai, viSayoM

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AptavANI-6 179 ke kAraNa nahIM khar3A hai| saMsAra kA 'rUTa kaoNz2a' ye krodha-mAna-mAyAlobha haiN| praznakartA : krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha Ae~, usa samaya svayaM jAgRta avasthA meM rahe, to phira usakA ba~dha nahIM par3atA na? dAdAzrI : jAgRti rahe kisa taraha? vaha khuda hI aMdhA hai, usane dUsaroM ko aMdhA banAyA hai| jaba taka ujAlA nahIM hotA, samakita nahIM hotA, taba taka jAgRta nahIM kahalAegA na! samakita ho jAne ke bAda kAma hotA hai| jaba taka samakita nahIM hotA taba taka saMyama bhI nahIM hai| vItarAgoM kA kahA huA saMyama kahIM bhI nahIM hai, yaha to laukika saMyama hai| praznakartA : vaha sa-rAga cAritra hai? dAdAzrI : sa-rAga cAritra to bahuta U~cI vastu hai, jJAnI sa-rAga cAritra meM haiN| aura jaba jJAnI saMpUrNa vItarAga ho jAte haiM, phira vItarAga cAritra AtA hai| saMyama kise kahate hai? viSayoM ke saMyama ko tyAga kahA hai| bhagavAna ne sirpha kaSAya ke saMyama ko saMyama kahA hai| kaSAyoM ke saMyama se hI yaha chUTatA hai, asaMyama se to baMdhana hai| viSaya to samakita hone ke bAda bhI rahate haiM, paraMtu ve viSaya guNasthAnaka meM Age nahIM bar3hane dete, phira bhI usameM harja nahIM hai, aisA kahA hai| kyoMki usase kahIM samakita calA nahIM jaataa| ___'dekhata bhUlI' Tale to... 'akrama vijJAna' kyA kahatA hai? pharsTa klAsa hAphUz2a Ama dekhane meM harja nahIM, tujhe sugaMdha AI usameM bhI harja nahIM, paraMtu bhogane kI bAta mata krnaa| jJAnI bhI Ama ko dekhate haiM, sUMghate haiN| yAnI ye viSaya jo bhoge jAte haiM na, ve 'vyavasthita' ke hisAba se bhoge jAte haiM, vaha to 'vyavasthita' hai hI! paraMtu binA kAma ke bAhara AkarSaNa ho usakA kyA artha? jo Ama ghara para AnevAle nahIM haiM, una para bhI AkarSaNa rahatA hai| aura saba jagaha AkarSaNa ho, vaha jokhima hai saaraa| usase karma ba~dhate haiM!

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180 AptavANI-6 . dekhane meM parezAnI nahIM hai, bhAva kI parezAnI hai| Apako bhogane kA bhAva utpanna huA ki parezAnI huii| dekhane meM, sugaMdha lene meM koI harja nahIM hai| saMsAra meM 'khAo, pIo, sabakucha karo', paraMtu hameM usa para bhAva utpanna nahIM honA caahie| isalie kRpAludeva ne kahA hai ki, 'dekhata bhUlI Tale, to sarva duHkhoM kA kSaya ho jaaegaa|' dekhe aura bhUla jAe, usake lie yaha apanA 'jJAna' diyA hai| bAda meM dekhata bhUlI baMda ho jAtI hai! hama to sAmanevAle vyakti meM 'zuddhAtmA' hI dekheM, phira hameM dUsarA bhAva kyoM utpanna hogA? nahIM to manuSyoM ko to kutte para bhI rAga ho jAtA hai, bahuta adhika suMdara ho to usa para bhI rAga ho jAtA hai| hama zuddhAtmA dekheMge to rAga hogA? yAnI hameM zuddhAtmA hI dekhane hai| yaha dekhata bhUlI Tale aisI hai nahIM aura yadi Tala jAe to saba duHkhoM kA kSaya ho jaae| yadi divyacakSu hoM to dekhata bhUlI Tala sakatI hai, nahIM to kisa taraha Tala sakatI hai? praznakartA : 'dekhata bhUlI' Tala jAe to kyA hogA? dAdAzrI : 'dekhata bhUlI' Tale to sarva du:khoM kA kSaya hogA, mokSa hogaa| praznakartA : usakA artha yaha ki rAga bhI nahIM honA cAhie aura bhUla jAnA cAhie? dAdAzrI : apanA yaha jJAna aisA hai na ki rAga ho, aisA to hai hI nahIM, paraMtu AkarSaNa ho usa ghar3I usake zuddhAtmA dekho to AkarSaNa nahIM hogaa| 'dekhata bhUlI' arthAt dekhe aura bhUla kara baiThe! dekhA nahIM ho taba taka bhUla nahIM hotii| jaba taka Apa kamare meM baiThe raho, taba taka kucha nahIM hotA, paraMtu vivAha samAroha meM gae aura dekhA ki phira bhUleM hotI haiM vaaps| vahA~ Apa zuddhAtmA dekhate rahoge, to dUsarA koI bhAva utpanna nahIM hogA aura bhAva utpanna ho gayA ho, usake pUrvakarma ke dhakke se, to usakA pratikramaNa kara denA, yahI upAya hai| yahA~ ghara meM baiThe the, taba taka mana meM kucha bhI kharAba vicAra nahIM A rahe the aura kahIM vivAha meM gae ki viSaya ke vicAra

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AptavANI-6 181 utpanna hue| saMyoga milA ki vicAra utpanna hote haiN| yaha 'dekhata bhUlI' sirpha divyacakSu se hI Tale, aisA hai| divyacakSu ke binA nahIM Tala sktii| praznakartA : yaha to saMyogoM ko TAlane kI bAta huI na? isakA matalaba eka hI jagaha para baiThe raheM? dAdAzrI : nahIM, apanA vijJAna to alaga hI taraha kA hai, hameM to 'vyavasthita' meM jo ho vaha bhale ho, paraMtu vahA~ para AjJA meM rahanA caahie| jahA~ para aMgAre hoM, vahA~ para AjJA meM nahIM rahate? aMgAroM ko bhUla se bhI nahIM chUte na? aisA hI use yahA~ para viSaya ke bAre meM sa~bhAla lenA cAhie ki ye aMgAre haiM, prakaTa agni hai| isa jagat meM jo vastu AkarSaNavAlI hai vaha prakaTa agni hai, vahA~ sAvadhAna ho jAnA caahie| praznakartA : usakA artha yaha ki hama jo dekhate hai, vaha apanA nahIM hai phira bhI vahA~ para bhAva ho jAtA hai, vaha nahIM honA cAhie, aisA? dAdAzrI : apanA vaha hai hI nahIM, pudgala apanA hotA hI nhiiN| yaha apanA pudgala 'apanA' nahIM hai, to usakA pudgala apanA kaise hogA? AkarSaNa, vaha prakaTa agni hai| bhagavAna ne AkarSaNa ko to moha kahA hai| moha kA mUla hI AkarSaNa hai| Apa to sAmanevAle meM zuddhAtmA dekhate ho, paraMtu phira vApasa bhAva utpanna ho gayA ho, AkarSaNa ho gayA ho to pratikramaNa karane se ukhar3a jaaegaa| aisA sabakucha jAnakara lakSya meM rakhanA cAhie na! davAI kI jAnakArI to rakhanI cAhie na ki isakI kyA davAI yaha vijJAna hai| saMpUrNabhAva se vijJAna hai| aMgAroM ko kyoM nahIM chUte? vahA~ kyoM caukanne rahate ho? kyoMki usakA phala turaMta hI milatA hai| aura viSaya meM to lAlaca ho jAtA hai, isalie lAlaca se pha~sa jAtA hai| ina aMgAroM ko chUnA acchA hai, usakA upAya hai| phira kucha bhI cupar3eM to ThaMDA par3a jAtA hai| paraMtu viSaya to abhI lAlaca meM pha~sAkara aura vApasa agalA janma dikhaaegaa| yaha to apane jJAna ko bhI dhakkA mAre aisA hai| itanA bar3A vijJAna hai| ise bhI dhakkA mAre aisA hai, isalie sAvadhAna rhnaa|

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182 AptavANI-6 khAne-pIne ke AkarSaNoM meM harja nahIM hai| Ama khAnA ho to khaanaa| jalebI, laDDU khaanaa| usameM sAmane koI dAvA karanevAlA nahIM hai na? 'vana sAiDeDa' meM harja nahIM hai| yaha 'TU sAiDeDa' hogA to z2immedArI rhegii| Apa kahoge ki mujhe aba nahIM cAhie, to vaha kahegI ki mujhe caahie| Apa kaho ki mujhe mAtherAna nahIM jAnA hai, to vaha kahegI ki mujhe mAtherAna jAnA hai| isase to upAdhi ho jaaegii| apanI svataMtratA kho jAtI hai| isalie sAvadhAna rahanA! yaha bahuta samajhane jaisI cIz2a hai| ise sUkSmatA se samajhakara rakho to kAma nikala jAe! praznakartA : yaha pikcara, nATaka, sAr3I, ghara, pharnicara Adi kA jo moha hai, usameM harja nahIM hai na? dAdAzrI : usameM kucha nhiiN| bahuta huA to usake lie Apako mAra pdd'egii| 'isa' (Atma) sukha ko Ane nahIM degaa| paraMtu ye saba sAmane dAvA nahIM kareMge na? aura viSayavAlA to 'klema' karatA hai, isalie sAvadhAna rho| 'vAha-vAha' kA 'bhojana' praznakartA : maiM jo dAna detA hU~ usameM merA bhAva dharma kA, acche kAma kA hotA hai| usameM loga vAha-vAha kareM to vaha pUrA khatma nahIM ho jAtA? dAdAzrI : isameM bar3I rakama kA upayoga ho, to usakA patA cala jAtA hai aura usakI vAha-vAha kI jAtI hai| aura aisI rakama bhI dAna meM jAtI hai ki jise koI jAnatA nahIM aura vAha-vAha nahIM karatA, to usakA lAbha rahatA hai! hameM usakI siradardI meM par3ane jaisA nahIM hai| hamAre mana meM aisA bhAva nahIM hai ki loga 'bhojana' karavAe~! itanA hI bhAva honA cAhie! jagat to mahAvIra kI bhI vAha-vAha karatA thA! paraMtu use ve khuda' svIkArate nahIM the na? ina dAdA kI bhI loga vAha-vAha karate haiM, paraMtu hama use svIkArate nahIM aura ye bhUkhe loga turaMta hI svIkara kara lete haiN| dAna kA patA cale binA rahatA hI nahIM na? loga to vAha-vAha kie bagaira raheMge nahIM,

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AptavANI-6 183 paraMtu khuda use nahIM svIkAre to phira kyA parezAnI hai? svIkAre taba roga ghusegA na? jo vAha-vAha nahIM svIkArate, unheM kucha bhI nahIM hotaa| vAha-vAha ko khuda svIkAra nahIM karatA, isalie use koI nukasAna nahIM hotA aura jo tArIpha karate haiM, unheM puNya ba~dhatA hai| satkArya kI anumodanA kA puNya ba~dhatA hai| yAnI aisI saba aMdara kI bAta hai| ye to saba kudaratI niyama haiN| jo loga tArIpha karate haiM, unake lie vaha kalyANakArI hai| aura jo sanate haiM. unake mana meM bhI acche bhAva ke bIja Dalate haiM ki 'yaha bhI karane jaisA hai to shii| hama to aisA jAnate hI nahIM the!' praznakartA : hama acchA kAma tana, mana, dhana se karate hoM paraMtu koI apanA kharAba hI bole, apamAna kare to usake lie kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : jo apamAna karatA hai, vaha bhayaMkara pApa bA~dha rahA hai| aba isameM apanA karma dhula jAtA hai aura apamAna karanevAlA to nimitta bnaa| pratikramaNa kI gahanatA praznakartA : isameM kabhI hameM burA laga jAtA hai ki maiM itanA saba karatA hU~, phira bhI yaha merA apamAna kara rahA hai? dAdAzrI : Apako usakA pratikramaNa karanA caahie| yaha to vyavahAra hai| isameM sabhI prakAra ke loga haiN| ve mokSa meM nahIM jAne dete| praznakartA : vaha pratikramaNa hameM kisa cIz2a kA karanA hai? dAdAzrI : pratikramaNa isalie karanA hai ki isameM mere karma kA udaya thA aura Apako aisA karma bA~dhanA pdd'aa| usakA pratikramaNa karatA hU~ aura phira se aisA nahIM karU~ ki jisake kAraNa kisI ko mere nimitta se aisA karma bAMdhanA pdd'e|' jagat kisI ko mokSa meM jAne de, aisA nahIM hai| sabhI prakAra se ye AMkar3e hameM khIMcakara le hI Ate haiN| isalie, yadi hama pratikramaNa kareM

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184 AptavANI-6 to AMkar3A chUTa jaaegaa| isalie mahAvIra bhagavAna ne AlocanA, pratikramaNa aura pratyAkhyAna, ye tInoM cIjeM eka hI zabda meM dI haiN| dUsarA koI rAstA hai hI nhiiN| aba khuda pratikramaNa kaba kara sakatA hai? khuda ko jAgRti ho taba, 'jJAnIpuruSa' ke pAsa se jJAna prApta ho, taba vaha jAgRti utpanna hotI hai| Apako to pratikramaNa kara lenA hai, tAki Apa z2immedArI meM se chUTa jaao| mujhe zurUAta meM saba loga 'aTeka' karate the na? paraMtu phira saba thaka gae! apanA yadi usake sAmane AkramaNa ho to sAmanevAle nahIM thakate! yaha jagat kisI ko mokSa meM jAne de, aisA nahIM hai| itanA adhika buddhivAlA jagat hai| isameM se yadi sAvadhAnIpUrvaka calegA, sameTakara calegA to mokSa meM jAegA! zuddhAtmA aura prakRti pariNAma 'nija svarUpa' kA bhAna hone ke bAda, 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' aisA bolA taba se nirvikalpa hone lagatA hai aura usake alAvA agara aura kucha bolA ki, 'maiM aisA hU~, maiM vaisA hU~', ve saba vikalpa hai| usase pUrA saMsAra khar3A ho jAtA hai, aura zuddhAtmA bolanevAlA nirvikalpa pada meM jAtA hai| aba isake bAvajUda bhI ina 'caMdUbhAI' ke to donoM kArya calate hI raheMge, acche aura bure donoM kArya calate hI rheNge| yoM ulTA bhI karegA aura sIdhA bhI karegA, yaha prakRti kA svabhAva hai| sirpha ulTA yA sirpha sIdhA koI kara hI nahIM sktaa| koI thor3A bahuta ulTA karatA hai to koI adhika ulTA karatA hai! praznakartA : nahIM karanA ho to bhI ho hI jAegA? dAdAzrI : hA~, ho hI jAegA, isalie 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~', aisA taya karake yaha saba ulTA-sulTA dekha! tujhe ulTA-sulTA aMdara Ae, taba tujhe mana meM aisI kalpanA nahIM karanI hai ki 'mujhase ulTA ho gayA, merA zuddhAtmA bigar3a gayA!' zuddhAtmA arthAt mUla terA hI svarUpa hai| yaha jo ulTA-sIdhA

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AptavANI-6 185 hotA hai, ye to pariNAma Ae haiN| pahale bhUleM kI thIM, unake ye pariNAma haiN| ve pariNAma dekhate' rho| aura ulTA-sulTA to yahA~ para logoM kI bhASA meM hai| bhagavAna kI bhASA meM ulTA-sulTA kucha hai hI nhiiN| praznakartA : ulTA-sulTA yadi bhagavAna kI bhASA meM nahIM hai to phira mAthApaccI karane ko rahA hI kahA~? dAdAzrI : kucha bhI mAthApaccI nahIM karanI hai| isalie maiM kahatA hU~ ki "dekho'| aura yadi kisI ko duHkha nahIM ho, aura duHkha ho jAe to usakA pratikramaNa karanA, aisA bhagavAna ne kahA hai|" praznakartA : ulTA-sIdhA bhagavAna kI bhASA meM rahA hI nahIM, to phira pratikramaNa karane ko rahA hI kahA~? dAdAzrI : sAmanevAle ko duHkha hotA hai, islie| 'sAmanevAle ko duHkha nahIM honA cAhie', yaha bhagavAna kI bhASA hai na? praznakartA : paraMtu apanA Azaya acchA hotA hai, phira bhI duHkhI hote dAdAzrI : Azaya acchA ho, cAhe jo ho, paraMtu use duHkha nahIM honA caahie| arthAt sAmanevAle ko duHkha huA, tabhI se (karma) cipkegaa| isalie sAmanevAle ko du:kha nahIM ho, usa taraha se kAma lenaa| praznakartA : logoM ko saccI bAta pasaMda hI nahIM AtI, phira kahane ko rahA hI kahA~? dAdAzrI : nahIM, saccI bAta pasaMda nahIM Ae, aisA hai hI nhiiN| aisA hai na ki saccI bAta ko, saccI bAta kaba mAnA jAtA hai? sirpha satya kI tarapha hI nahIM dekhanA hai| usake do-tIna pahalU hone caahie| vaha hitakara honA cAhie, sAmanevAlA khuza ho jAnA caahie| phira ApakI bAta ulTI ho yA sIdhI ho paraMtu sAmanevAlA khuza ho jAnA cAhie, lekina usameM ApakI kharAba niyata nahIM honI cAhie aura satya bolane se sAmanevAle ko yadi duHkha hotA ho to Apako bolanA hI nahIM aataa| satya to priya,

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AptavANI-6 hitakara aura mita honA caahie| mita arthAt sAmanevAle ko aisA nahIM laganA cAhie ki 'ye cAcA bekAra hI bolate jA rahe haiM !' sAmanevAle ko jo pasaMda AI, vahI vANI satya hai / jisa kisIne isa satya kI pU~cha pakar3I, una sabhI ne vaha mAra khAI hai| praznakartA : maskA mAranA, usakA nAma satya hai? galata 'hA~' meM hA~ milAnI ? 186 dAdAzrI : vaha satya nahIM kahalAtA / maskA mArane jaisI vastu hI nahIM hai| yaha to khuda kI khojabIna hai, khuda kI bhUla ke kAraNa dUsaroM ko maskA mAratA hai yh| sAmanevAle ko phiTa ho jAe, aisI apanI vANI bolI jAnI caahie| praznakartA : 'sAmanevAle ko kyA hogA', aisA vicAra karane baiTheM to kaba pAra AegA? dAdAzrI : usakA vicAra Apako nahIM karanA hai| Apako to caMdUbhAI se kahanA hai ki pratikramaNa kro| basa itanA hI kahanA hai / yaha 'akrama vijJAna' hai| isalie pratikramaNa rakhanA par3A hai / bAta ko sirpha samajhanA hI hai| yaha to vijJAna hai| isalie bAta hI samajha leM to kucha sparza kara sake aisA nahIM hai aura caMdUbhAI ko Apa jaba pUcho, Apa zuddhAtmA ho yA caMdUbhAI ? taba kahate haiM 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~, basa ! phira aura kyA pUchane ko rahA? phira vaha Ter3hA kare to usakA sukha ruka jAegA, basa itanA hI / jagat meM Apa sabhI ko pasaMda Aoge to kAma aaegaa| jagat ko Apa pasaMda nahIM Ae, to vaha ApakI hI bhUla hai / itanA samajha lene kI z2arUrata hai| isalie 'eDajasTa evarIvhera / ' isa jhaMjhaTa kA to aMta hI nahIM AegA na? maiM alaga kahU~, yaha alaga kahe, to loga to suneMge hI nahIM na? loga to kyA kahate haiM ki ApakI bAta hameM phiTa honI caahie| hameM bahuta loga kahate haiM ki, 'dAdA, Apako yaha AtA hogA aura vaha AtA hogA', taba maiM kahatA hU~ ki, 'are bhAI, mujhe to kucha bhI nahIM aataa| isIlie to yaha maiM AtmA kA sIkha gayA / '

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AptavANI-6 187 hameM binA bAta ke lappana chappana (z2arUrata se jyAdA bAtacIta karanA) kyoM baghAranI hai? lappana chappana kareMge to Ate hue bhI zAdI (ApasI vyavahAra karate-karate hisAba baMdhanA) hogI aura jAte hue bhI zAdI hogii| yAnI sabakucha sahI tarIke se honA cAhie, bahuta atizaya meM utarane jaisA nahIM hai| hameM to sabako phiTa ho, aisA rakhanA caahie| merA kisI ke sAtha matabheda nahIM pdd'taa| matabheda par3e taba se jAna jAtA hU~ ki merI bhala hai aura vahA~ maiM turaMta jAgRta ho jAtA huuN| Apa mere sAtha cAhe kitanA bhI Ter3hA bolo, paraMtu usameM ApakI bhUla nahIM hai| bhUla to merI hai, sIdhA bolanevAle kI hai| kyoMki maiM yaha aisA kaisA bolA ki ise matabheda par3A! yAnI jagat ko 'eDajasTa' kisa taraha hoM, vaha dekhanA hai| Apa sAmanevAle kA hita cAhate hoM, jaise ki aspatAla meM koI marIz2a ho, Apa usake saMpUrNa hita meM ho, isa vajaha se Apa use 'aisA karo, aisA mata karo' aisA kahate rahate ho, paraMtu pezanTa Uba jAtA hai ki yaha kyA jhaMjhaTa binA bAta kA? yAnI jisa pAnI se mUMga pakeM, usa pAnI se mUMga pakAne haiN| AjavA (bar3audA kA eka sarovara) ke pAnI se nahIM pakeM to hameM dUsarA pAnI DAlanA cAhie, kue~ kA DAleM aura phira bhI nahIM pakeM to gaTara kA pAnI DAlakara bhI mUMga pakAo, hameM to mUMga pakAne se kAma hai! sAmanevAle ko samAdhAna do hama sabhI ko sIkhanA kyA hai, ki matabheda nahIM par3e aisA bartAva kreN| matabheda par3A ki ApakI hI bhUla hai, ApakI hI kamaz2orI hai| sAmanevAle ko hamase samAdhAna honA hI caahie| sAmanevAle ke samAdhAna kI z2immedArI apane sira para hai| Apase sAmanevAle kA samAdhAna nahIM ho to Apa kyA samajhate ho? sAmanevAle meM kama samajha hai, aisA hI samajhate ho na? praznakartA : haaN|

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188 AptavANI-6 dAdAzrI : ApakA vivAda ho jAe, usa samaya bAta ko ghumAphirAkara bhI use asamAdhAna na rahe, Apako usa taraha se kAma lenA caahie| yadi Apa samajhadAra ho to Apa palaTa jAo aura samAdhAna krvaao| yadi Apa nahIM palaTate to Apa samajhadAra nahIM ho| bAkI sAmanevAlA to palaTegA nhiiN| isalie maiM kisI ko bhI nahIM pltttaa| maiM hI usase kahatA hU~ ki, 'bhAI, maiM hI palaTa jaauuNgaa|' hameM sIdhA rakhanA hai| gyAraha baje Apa mujhe kaho ki, 'Apako bhojana kara lenA pdd'egaa|' maiM kaha~ ki 'thoDI dera bAda bhojana karU~ to nahIM calegA?' taba Apa kaho ki, 'nahIM, bhojana kara lIjie, to kAma pUrA ho|' to maiM turaMta hI bhojana karane baiTha jaauuNgaa| maiM Apake sAtha 'eDajasTa' ho jaauuNgaa| aba 'eDajasTa' nahIM honevAle ko to loga mUrkha kheNge| hara eka cIz2a meM 'eDajasTa' nahIM hoMge, to sAmanevAlA manuSya Apake lie kyA abhiprAya degA? samajha kise kahate hai? phiTa ho jAe vahI samajha! phira vaha ThIka hai yA nahIM, vaha nahIM dekhanA hai| aura nAsamajhI kise kahate hai ki jo phiTa nahIM ho| yahI eka bAta samajha lenI hai| praznakartA : cetanatA indriya samajha se to bahuta Age hai na? cetanatA ho to TakarAva ho hI nahIM skegaa| dAdAzrI : nahIM, TakarAva to honA hI nahIM caahie| jahA~ TakarAva ho, vahIM para hamArI nAsamajhI hai| isameM cetanatA kA savAla hI nahIM hai| cetana to cetana hI hai| yaha to nAsamajhI bharI huI hai, isalie! nAmasajhI kisa lie khar3I hotI hai? aMdara 'igoiz2ama' kA mUla hai isalie! jaba taka usa ahaMkAra kA mUla hotA hai, taba taka U~cA-nIcA hotA hI rahatA hai| parezAna karatA hai, hairAna kara detA hai, caina nahIM lene detaa| isalie taba hameM dhIre se usakA mUla ukhAr3a denA pdd'egaa| koI kucha bole to pahale to aMdara usa ahaMkAra kA mUla khar3A hotA hai, phira caina se baiThane nahIM detaa| bahuta dabAne kA prayatna karane para bhI baiThane nahIM detaa| isake bajAya to 'hama kucha nahIM jAnate' aisA bhAva AyA, to basa,

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AptavANI-6 189 hama saba 'zuddhAtmA' ke taura para jJAnI haiM aura vyavahArika taura para isa taraha se hai| asamAdhAnoM meM eDajasTamenTa yA pratikramaNa? praznakartA : koI vyakti AjJApUrvaka kahe ki Apa aisA karo, aura yadi usa vyakti para vizvAsa nahIM ho na, to vahA~ prakRti 'eDajasTa' nahIM hotI, taba kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : vizvAsa ke binA to isa z2amIna para do paira bhI nahIM par3a sakate! 'yaha z2amIna polI hai' aisA jAna jAe, to phira koI vahA~ para jAegA hI nahIM na! isa sTImara meM cheda hai, aisA jAnane para koI usameM baiThegA? praznakartA : paraMtu jJAna ke bAda jo sahajatA rahanI cAhie aura sAmanevAle ke sAtha eDajasTa honA caahie| yadi vaisA nahIM ho pAe to kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : vaisA ho to use dekhanA'! 'caMdUbhAI' kyA karate haiM, 'hameM' use sirpha dekhanA hai| aisA apanA jJAna kahatA hai| praznakartA : hama sAmanevAle ke sAtha 'eDajasTa' nahIM hoM, to vaha apanI Ar3AI (ahaMkAra kA Ter3hApana) kahalAegI? dAdAzrI : nahIM, aisA kucha nahIM hai| jaisA sAmanevAle kA hisAba ho usake anusAra saba hotA hai| praznakartA : paraMtu sAmanevAle manuSya ko duHkha to hogA na ki yaha merA mAna nahIM rkhtaa| dAdAzrI : to usakA Apako 'caMdUbhAI' ke pAsa se pratikramaNa karavAnA cAhie, usameM aura koI parezAnI nahIM hai| ina sabjiyoM meM kitanI jAtiyA~ haiM? praznakartA : bahuta saarii|

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190 AptavANI-6 dAdAzrI : vaise hI yaha saba bhI sabjI kI taraha hI alaga-alaga taraha kA hai| sirpha pratikramaNa hI isakA upAya hai| praznakartA : to aise samaya meM hameM apanI bAta chor3a denI cAhie yA pakar3akara rakhanI cAhie? dAdAzrI : kyA hotA hai use 'dekhnaa'| praznakartA : kaI bAra to hamArI pakar3a do-do, tIna-tIna dinoM taka calatI hai| usa samaya prakRti 'eDajasTa' nahIM ho pAtI, usakA aphasosa rahA karatA hai| dAdAzrI : ApakI prakRti kisI ko bAdhaka hotI ho to pratikramaNa krvaanaa| prakRti to taraha-taraha kA bahuta sArA dikhAtI hai| praznakartA : paraMtu aise samaya meM mAna lIjie ki hama 'eDajasTa' nahIM hoM aura sAmanevAle ko duHkha hotA rahe, to phira kyA kareM? hama 'eDajasTa' ho jAe~? dAdAzrI : hameM to sirpha pratikramaNa hI karanA hai| 'eDajasTa' honA bhI nahIM hai aura huA bhI nahIM jaataa| hameM 'eDajasTa' honA ho to bhI nahIM ho pAte, TikaTa cipakatI hI nhiiN| tU cipakAtA rahe, phira bhI ukhar3a jAtI hai ! ataH sAmanevAle ko Apase duHkha ho yA sukha ho, Apako pratikramaNa kara lenA caahie| kisI ko duHkha ho rahA hai, usa kAraNa se hameM 'eDajasTa' ho jAnA hai, aisA likhA huA nahIM hai| aise 'eDajasTa' huA bhI nahIM jaataa| aisA bhAva hI, abhiprAya hI nahIM honA cAhie ki 'eDajasTa' honA hai| praznakartA : yaha samajha meM nahIM AyA, phira se samajhAie! dAdAzrI : 'eDajasTa' hone kA abhiprAya hI nahIM honA caahie| jahA~ 'eDajasTa' hI nahIM huA jA sake aisA ho, vahA~ para 'eDajasTa' hone ke abhiprAya ko kyA karanA hai? isake bajAya to pratikramaNa kara lenA, vaha

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AptavANI-6 191 saba se acchA hai! 'eDajasTa' hone kA bhAva bhI acchA nahIM hai| vaha saba saMsAra hai| isa rUpa meM yA usa rUpa meM, sArA saMsAra hI hai| isameM na to dharma hai, na hI aatmaa| praznakartA : 'phAiloM kA samabhAva se nikAla nahIM ho to sAmanevAle vyakti ko duHkha hogA? dAdAzrI : usakA nikAla dasa dina bAda hogA, Aja maha~gAI meM nahIM hogA to jaba sastA ho jAegA, usa samaya hogaa| usake lie hameM rAtoM ko jAgane kI z2arUrata nahIM hai| hama 'zuddhAtmA' haiM, pahale khuda kA kAma kara lenA hai aura dUsaroM ko duHkha ho jAe to usakA pratikramaNa kara lenA hai| dUsare sabhI jhaMjhaToM meM nahIM par3anA caahie| jaisA tU karane ko kahatA hai, vaisA yadi 'jJAnIpuruSa' kareM, to usakA kaba aMta AegA? aise kitane laphaDe? praznakartA : Apane kahA ki sAmanevAle ke sAtha eDajasTamenTa rakhane kA bhAva bhI nahIM honA caahie| usakA artha yaha hai ki dUsare ko eDajasTamenTa dene ke bhAva meM tanmayAkAra hone kI z2arUrata nahIM hai, suparaphluasa rUpa se karanA hai, aisA Apa kahanA cAhate haiM? dAdAzrI : eDajasTamenTa bahuta prakAra ke hote haiN| kucha eDajasTamenTa to lene jaise hI nahIM hote| kucha eDajasTamenTa lene jaise hote haiN| paraMtu unake lie bhAva rakhane kI bhI z2arUrata nahIM hai| kyA hotA hai use dekhate' rhnaa| itanA karane se eka janma meM chUTA jA skegaa| thor3A-bahuta udhAra rahegA to agale janma meM cuka jaaegaa| isase mana AmaLe nahIM car3he, itanA rkhnaa| jisa bAta se apanA mana AmaLe car3he (vicAroM kA bavaMDara uThanA, bahuta vicAra Ane se abhAva honA) to usa bAta ko baMda rkhnaa| mana AmaLe car3he to bhItara duHkha hotA hai, ghabarAhaTa hotI hai aura bahuta AmaLe car3he to ciMtA hotI hai| isalie mana ke AmaLe car3hane se pahale hameM bAta ko baMda kara denA caahie| yaha isakA levala hai|

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192 AptavANI-6 praznakartA : isameM kaIbAra kyA hotA hai ki sAmanevAle vyakti ko duHkha hotA hai aura usake mana kA samAdhAna nahIM hotA na! dAdAzrI : samAdhAna to zAyada eka varSa taka bhI nahIM ho, to usake lie hama kyA kaha sakate haiM? apane mana meM aisA bhAva rakhanA ki sAmanevAle kA samAdhAna ho jAe, aisI vANI nikalanI caahie| vANI yadi ulTI nikalI ho, to usakA pratikramaNa karanA caahie| varnA isa saMsAra kA to aMta hI nahIM aaegaa| ye to balki hameM ghasITa le jaaeNge| sAmanevAlA tAlAba meM gira gayA hogA to vaha tujhe bhI usameM le jAegA! hameM apanI sephasAiDa rakhakara kAma lenA cAhie saaraa| aba isa saMsAra meM gahare utarane jaisA hai hI nhiiN| yaha to saMsAra hai! jahA~ se kATo vahA~ se aMdhere aura sirpha aMdhere kI hI slAisa nikalegI! isa pyAz2a ko kATeM to usakI sabhI slAisa pyAz2a kI hI hoMgI na? pratikramaNa karane para bhI kisI ko samAdhAna nahIM ho to agale janma meM cukegA, paraMtu abhI to hameM apanA kara lenA hai| sAmanevAle kA sudhArate hue apanA nahIM bigar3e, saba se pahale isakA dhyAna rakho! saba apanA-apanA sa~bhAlo! praznakartA : saMsAra vyavahAra karate hue zuddha Atmahetu ko kisa taraha sa~bhAlakara rakheM? dAdAzrI : vaha sa~bhalA huA hI hai| tujhe sa~bhAlane kI z2arUrata nahIM hai| 'tU' 'terI' jAta ko sa~bhAla! 'caMdUbhAI' khuda kI jAta ko sa~bhAleMge! praznakartA : aisI jAgRti ho jAne ke bAda vaha phira jAegI nahIM na? dAdAzrI : nahIM, vaha phira jAegI nahIM, paraMtu yaha kAla vicitra hai| dhUla ur3Ae na, to bhI jAgRti kama ho jAe aisA hai aura sAtha-sAtha yaha 'akrama vijJAna' hai, yAnI ki karmoM ko khapAe binA milA huA vijJAna hai| ina karmoM ko khapAte hue Apa para yaha dhUla udd'egii| mujhe to parezAnI nahIM hotI, kyoMki mere bahuta karma bAkI nahIM rhe| apanA yaha 'akrama vijJAna' to sabhI karmoM ko khatma kara de aisA hai, paraMtu apanI taiyArI caahie|

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AptavANI- -6 193 pUrI duniyA ke tUfAna ko khatma kara de, aisA yaha vijJAna hai, lekina hama yadi isameM sthira raheM to ! hama yadi jJAna meM sthiratA pakar3a leM to koI nAma nahIM degaa| yaha to jAgRti kA mArga hai, hameM jAgRta rahanA hai| sAmanevAle ko duHkha huA, usakA pratikramaNa karane kA hamAre pAsa ilAja hai| aura kyA karanA hai? bAkI to ye deha, mana, vANI saba 'vyavasthita' ke tAbe meM haiN| apratikramaNa doSa, prakRti kA yA aMtarAya karma kA ? praznakartA : pratikramaNa nahIM ho pAte, yaha prakRtidoSa hai yA yaha aMtarAyakarma hai? dAdAzrI : yaha prakRtidoSa hai / aura yaha prakRtidoSa sabhI jagaha para nahIM hotaa| kucha jagaha para doSa ho jAte haiM aura kucha jagaha para nahIM hote / prakRtidoSa kI vajaha se pratikramaNa nahIM ho pAe~, usakA harja nahIM hai / hameM to itanA hI dekhanA hai ki apanA bhAva kyA hai? hameM aura kucha nahIM dekhanA hai| ApakI icchA pratikramaNa karane kI hai na? praznakartA: hA~, puurii-puurii| dAdAzrI : isake bAvajUda yadi pratikramaNa nahIM ho pAe~, to vaha prakRtidoSa hai| prakRtidoSa meM Apa jokhimadAra nahIM ho| kisI samaya prakRti bolatI bhI hai aura na bhI bole, yaha to bAjA hai / baje to baje, nahIM to nahIM bhI baje, ise aMtarAya nahIM khte| I 44 kaI loga mujhe kahate haiM ki, 'dAdA, samabhAva se nikAla karane jAtA hU~, paraMtu ho nahIM paataa|' taba maiM kahatA hU~, " are bhAI, nikAla nahIM karanA hai! tujhe samabhAva se nikAla karane kA bhAva hI rakhanA hai| samabhAva se nikAla ho jAe yA nahIM bhI ho paae| vaha tere adhIna nahIM hai tU merI AjJA meM raha na! usase terA kAphI kucha kAma pUrA ho jAegA, aura to vaha 'necara' ke adhIna hai / " pUrA nahIM ho pA hama to itanA hI dekhate haiM ki 'mujhe samabhAva se nikAla karanA hai',

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194 AptavANI-6 itanA tU nakkI kara / phira vaisA huA yA nahIM huA vaha hameM nahIM dekhanA hai| kaba taka yaha nATaka dekhane baiThe raheM? isakA aMta hI kaba AegA? hameM to Age calane laganA hai / zAyada samabhAva se nikAla nahIM bhI ho / holI nahIM jalI hai to Age jAkara jlaaeNge| isa taraha uchalakUda karane se thor3e hI jalegI? isakA kaba aMta AegA? Apa diyAsalAI jalAnA, aura kucha jalAnA, bAda meM Apako isase kyA kAma? chor3o ise aura Age clo| praznakartA : yadi pratikramaNa ho pAe~, to vaha dharmadhyAna meM gayA yA zukladhyAna meM gayA? dAdAzrI : nahIM, vaha dharmadhyAna meM nahIM jAtA aura zukladhyAna meM bhI nahIM jaataa| yaha pratikramaNa, koI dhyAna nahIM hai / pratikramaNa Apako cokhA (kharA, acchA, zuddha, sApha) banAte haiM / vAstava meM AtmA prApta karane ke bAda pratikramaNa karane kI z2arUrata hI nahIM hai, paraMtu yaha to 'akrama vijJAna' hai| Apako rAste calate AtmA prApta ho gayA hai| isalie pichale doSoM ko dhone ke lie pratikramaNa karane par3ate haiN| itane sAre doSoM ke bIca yadi pratikramaNa nahIM karoge to ve doSa khUba uchalakUda kareMge! ye kapar3e bigar3a jAe~, to unheM dhone to par3ege hI na? aura kramika mArga meM to kapar3e cokhe karane ke bAda AtmA prApta hotA hai / usameM unheM dAg2a hI nahIM par3anevAlA na? akrama mArga se ekAvatArI praznakartA : pratikramaNa kareMge to nayA cArja nahIM hogA? dAdAzrI : AtmA khuda kartA bane tabhI karma baMdheMge, varnA isa jJAna meM to pratikramaNa hote hI nahIM / paraMtu yaha to cauthI kakSAvAle ko grejyueTa banAte haiM, to phira bIca kI kakSAoM kA kyA hogA? isalie itanA pratikramaNa hamane bIca meM rakhA hai| isa 'akrama jJAna' ko prApta karane ke bAda eka yA do janmoM meM hala A jAe, aisA hai| aba janma bAkI rahanA yA nahIM rahanA, vaha dhyAna para AdhArita

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AptavANI-6 195 hai| niraMtara sirpha zukladhyAna hI rahatA ho to dUsarA janma hogA hI nahIM, paraMtu akrama mArga meM zukladhyAna aura dharmadhyAna donoM rahate haiN| aMdara zukladhyAna rahatA hai aura bAhara dharmadhyAna rahatA hai| dharmadhyAna kisase hotA hai? 'dAdAjI' ke kahe anusAra AjJA kA pAlana karanA hotA hai islie| AjJA pAlana karanA, vaha zukladhyAna kA kAma nahIM hai, vaha dharmadhyAna kA kAma hai| isalie dharmadhyAna ke kAraNa eka yA do janmoM jitanA cArja hotA hai|

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[25] ArAdhanA karane jaisA... aura jAnane jaisA...! praznakartA : aba yaha jo 'riyala' dekhate haiM, taba 'riyala' ke prati jo prema utpanna honA cAhie, vaha nahIM hotA aura 'rileTiva' upacAra svarUpa ho gayA hai, to yaha kyA kahalAegA? dAdAzrI : yadi prema hogA to sAmane dveSa utpanna hogaa| prema utpanna karane kI z2arUrata nahIM hai| ArAdhana karane jaisA, ramaNatA karane jaisA sirpha yaha 'riyala' hI hai! 'zuddhAtmA' kI ramaNatA arthAt niraMtara zuddhAtmA kA dhyAna rahe, vaha! aba sva-ramaNatA karanI hai, aura kucha nahIM karanA hai| praznakartA : 'rileTiva' ko jAnanA hai aura 'riyala' ko bhI jAnanA hai? dAdAzrI : nahIM, 'riyala' kA ArAdhana karanA hai aura 'rileTiva' ko jAnanA hai| jAnane jaisA sirpha 'rileTiva' hI hai| yaha 'riyala' to hamane Apako batA diyA hai! aba yaha pUrA jagat 'jJeya' svarUpa hai aura Apa 'jJAtA' ho| Apako 'jJAyaka' svabhAva utpanna huA hai, phira aba bAkI kyA rahA? 'jJAyaka' svabhAva utpanna hone ke bAda 'jJeya' ko dekhate hI rahanA hai! Apako aba zuddhAtmA ke prati prema rakhane kI z2arUrata nahIM hai| kyoMki Apa usa rUpa ho hI cuke ho| aba kisake sAtha prema karoge? Apako jJAnadarzana aura cAritra zurU ho gayA hai! nahIM to 'dekhane-jAnane' para rAga-dveSa hotA! dekhe-jAne usa para rAga-dveSa nahIM ho, vaha vItarAga cAritra kahalAtA hai| aba to ApakA cAritra bhI ucca ho gayA hai| yaha to Azcarya ho gayA hai! paraMtu aba use sa~bhAlakara rakho to acchA! koI cokaleTa dekara

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AptavANI-6 cUr3iyA~ nahIM chIna le to acchaa| aba to Apako jJAna-darzana-cAritra aura tapa sabakucha hI calatA rahegA / paraMtu tapa kA Apako patA nahIM rahatA ki kahA~ para tapa ho rahA hai! hamArI ' AjJA' hI aisI hai ki tapa karanA hI par3e ! 197 hama moTara meM ghUmate haiM paraMtu kisI ke sAtha bAta nahIM karate, kyoMki hama upayoga meM hI rahate haiM / hama thor3A bhI upayoga nahIM cUkate ! itanA acchA vijJAna hAtha meM Ane ke bAda kauna chor3e? pahale to do-pA~ca miniTa bhI upayoga meM nahIM rahA jAtA thA / eka guMThANA sAmAyika karanI ho to ati-ati kaSTapUrvaka raha pAte the aura yaha to sahaja hI Apa jahA~ jAo vahA~ upayogapUrvaka rahA jA sakatA hai, aisA huA I praznakartA : vaha samajha meM AtA hai, dAdA | dAdAzrI : aba z2arA bhUloM ko roko, yAnI ki pratikramaNa karo / Apako taya karake nikalanA hai ki Aja aisA hI karanA hai ! zuddha upayoga meM rahanA hai, aisA taya nahIM karoge to phira upayoga cUka jAoge ! aura apanA vijJAna to bahuta acchA hai / dUsarA koI jhaMjhaTa nahIM ! nijavastu ramaNatA praznakartA : 'nijavastu' ramaNatA kisa prakAra se hotI hai? dAdAzrI : ramaNatA to do-cAra prakAra se hotI hai / aura koI ramaNatA nahIM Ae to 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~', 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' aisA ghaMTe-do ghaMTe boleMge to bhI calegA, aise karate-karate ramaNatA Age bar3hegI ! praznakartA : ramaNatA to alaga-alaga taraha kI hotI haiM na? dAdAzrI : vaha to jise jaisA Ae, vaisA vaha karatA hai / sthUla meM ho to, 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~', 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' bolatA rahe, yA phira kitAba lekara 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' aisA likhatA rhe| usase kyA hotA hai, to yaha ki deha bhI ramaNatA karatA hai, vANI bhI ramaNatA karatI hai, mana bhI usameM A jAtA hai / pahale sthUla rUpa se kare na, taba phira pudgala ramaNatA chUTane lagatI

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198 AptavANI-6 hai| aise karate-karate sUkSma hotA hai aura yadi usake guNa hI bolatA rahe, to vaha saccI ramaNatA kahalAtI hai| vaha turaMta hI, oNna da momenTa phala detI hai! khuda kA sukha anubhava meM AtA hai| praznakartA : jisa taraha isa pudgala ke rasa haiM, usI taraha AtmA ke rasa, AnaMda prakaTa honA cAhie na? dAdAzrI : aisA hai ki Apa aparigrahI kisa AdhAra para ho? 'akrama vijJAna' ke AdhAra para! paraMtu vyavahAra se aparigrahI nahIM ho, yAnI ki jaba taka aparigrahI dazA nahIM hotI, taba taka aMtima 'vastu' hAtha meM nahIM AtI! praznakartA : taba taka saccA rasa, AnaMda prApta karane ke lie hameM kyA karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : 'maiM anaMta jJAnavAlA hU~', 'maiM anaMta darzanavAlA hU~', 'maiM anaMta sukha kA dhAma hU~', 'maiM anaMta zaktivAlA hU~'... bolo, to saccA rasa utpanna ho jAegA! AtmA to khuda AnaMdamaya hI hai, yAnI vaha 'vastu' sarvarasamaya hI hai aura vaha khuda meM hotA hI hai| paraMtu khuda apanI jAgRti kI kamI ke kAraNa, vaha kahA~ se A rahA hai, usakA patA nahIM cltaa| praznakartA : pudgala ke rasoM ko dabAe~, to AtmA ke rasa utpanna hoMge? dAdAzrI : nahIM, dabAne kA koI artha hI nahIM hai| ve to apane Apa hI phIke par3a jaaeNge| AtmA ke guNa eka-eka ghaMTe taka bolo to turaMta bahuta adhika phala deNge| yaha to naqada phalavAlI vastu hai, yA to hara eka ke bhItara 'zuddhAtmA' dekhate-dekhate jAo, to bhI AnaMda Ae aisA hai| praznakartA : sAmanevAle vyakti meM zuddhAtmA dekheM, to sAmanevAle vyakti ko AnaMda honA cAhie na? dAdAzrI : nahIM hogaa| kyoMki usakI vRttiyA~ usa samaya na jAne kisameM par3I hoMgI! vaha na jAne kauna se vicAroM meM par3A hogA! hA~, usameM

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AptavANI-6 199 'zuddhAtmA' dekhane se Apako bahuta phAyadA hogaa| sAmanevAle ko phAyadA to sirpha 'jJAnIpuruSa' hI kara sakate haiM! praznakartA : dAdA, Apane cAra prakAra kI ramaNatA btaaii| ve z2arA phira se batAie na! dAdAzrI : kucha loga 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~, maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' aisA bolate haiN| kucha loga likhate haiM ki 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~,' to aisA karane se deha bhI ramaNatA meM A gayA, aisA kahA jaaegaa| deha-vANI aura mana, tInoM hI likhate samaya hAz2ira rahate haiM, jabaki kucha loga, bAhara kA vyavahAra cala rahA ho usake bAvajUda bhI yadi mana se vAstava meM 'zuddhAtmA' ke guNoM meM ramaNA karate haiM, ve haiN| zuddhAtmA ke guNoM meM ramaNA karanA jaise ki, 'maiM anaMta jJAnavAlA hU~, maiM anaMta zaktivAlA hU~..' use siddhastuti kahate haiN| vaha bahuta phaladAyI hai! praznakartA : dAdA, Apa jisa prakAra dUsaroM ke sukha ke lie prayatna karate haiM aura kitanoM ko bhayaMkara du:khoM kI yAtanA meM se parama sukhI banA dete haiM, to hameM yadi vaisA bananA ho to bana sakate haiM yA nahIM? dAdAzrI : hA~, bana sakate ho| paraMtu ApakI utanI sArI kepesiTI ho jAnI caahie| Apa nimitta rUpa bana jaao| usake lie maiM Apako taiyAra kara rahA hU~, varnA Apa karane yA banane jAoge, to kucha bhI ho pAe aisA nahIM hai! praznakartA : to nimitta rUpa banane ke lie hameM kyA karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : yahI saba jo maiM batA rahA hU~ vaha aura nimitta rUpa banane se pahale kucha prakAra kA kacarA nikala jAnA caahie| usameM kisI para gusse hone kA, kisI para cir3hane kA aise saba hiMsakabhAva nahIM hone caahie| hAlA~ki vAstava meM ApameM ye hiMsakabhAva nahIM haiM, ye Apake DiscArja hiMsakabhAva haiM, paraMtu jo DiscArja hiMsakabhAva haiM, ve khatma ho jAe~ge taba ye saba zaktiyA~ haiM, ve opana hoNgii| DiscArja coriyA~,

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200 AptavANI-6 DiscArja abrahmacarya, ye sabhI DiscArja khAlI ho jAe~ge, usake bAda auroM ke lie nimitta banane kI zakti utpanna hogI! yaha saba khAlI ho jAe, to Apa paramAtmA hI bana gae! hamArA yaha saba khAlI ho gayA hai, isIlie to hama nimitta bane haiM! praznakartA : yAnI pahale hameM 'jaMga' khAlI karane kA kAma karanA hai| dAdAzrI : puruSArtha karane se sabakucha hogA! puruSa huA isalie puruSArtha meM A sakatA hai, aisA saba hamane kara diyA hai! aba Apa apanI taraha se jitanA puruSArtha karo, utanA ApakA! praznakartA : maiM mere zuddhAtmA meM raha~, paraMtu sAtha-sAtha sAmanevAle ke zuddhAtmA ke sAtha saMdhAna honA cAhie na? dAdAzrI : sAmanevAle ke zuddhAtmA dekhane se kyA phAyadA hai ki yaha apanI khuda kI zuddhi bar3hAne ke lie hai, na ki sAmanevAle vyakti ko lAbha pahu~cAne ke lie! khuda kI zuddha dazA bar3hAne ke lie sAmanevAle meM zuddhAtmA dekho, tAki khuda kI dazA bar3hatI jAe! praznakartA : eka zuddhAtmA kA dUsare zuddhAtmA ke sAtha saMdhAna hotA hai yA nahIM? dAdAzrI : saMdhAna kucha bhI nahIM hai, yaha svabhAva hai| yaha 'lAiTa', yaha 'lAiTa' aura yaha 'lAiTa' - ye tInoM 'lAiTeM' ikaTThI kareM phira bhI unameM se hara eka lAiTa kA khuda kA vyaktitva to alaga rhegaa| usameM eka-dUsare ko koI kucha fAyadA nahIM phuNcaataa| praznakartA : to phira sAmanevAle ke lie hameM jo galata bhAva haiM, kharAba bhAva haiM, ve pratikramaNa karane se kama ho jAe~ge kyA? dAdAzrI : apane kharAba bhAva TUTa jAte haiM, apane khuda ke lie hI hai, yaha sb| sAmanevAle ko apane se sAtha koI lenA-denA nahIM hai|

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[ 26 ] zuddhAtmA aura karmarUpI paccar3a 'svarUpajJAna' prApta hone ke bAda phira bAkI kyA bacA? sabhI meM zuddhAtmA dikhatA hai, khuda meM zuddhAtmA dikhatA hai, taba phira bAkI kyA bacA? karmarUpI paccar3a (makAna yA pharnIcara banAte samaya do cIz2oM ke bIca jagaha rakhane ke lie upayoga kiyA jAnevAlA bA~sa kA Tukar3A; ar3acana; rukaavtt)| khuda paramAtmA ho gae, sabakucha jAnate haiM, paraMtu kyA hotA hai ? taba kahe ki karmarUpI paccar3a bAdhaka haiM / karmarUpI paccar3a kisase nikalegI? 'phAila' kA samabhAva se nikAla karane se rAga-dveSa kie binA A par3I phAiloM kA samabhAva se nikAla karanA, vahI usakA, karmarUpI paccar3a ko nikAlane kA upAya hai| paccar3a kI sabhI kriyAe~ hamase ho sakatI haiM / are, yadi kisI ko apanA hAtha bhI laga jAe, phira bhI rAga-dveSa nahIM hote / 'phAila' Ane se pahale hI Apane nizcita kiyA hotA hai ki isakA samabhAva se nikAla karanA hai| khuda ke pUrva meM likhe hue bahIkhAte, vahI karmarUpI paccar3a kahalAte haiM / karmarUpI paccar3a jisa samaya ghera letI hai na, usa ghar3I bekAra hI Apako ulajhAtI rahatI hai| use Apa 'jAno' ki Aja isane caMdUbhAI ko bahuta ulajhAyA / kyA Apako patA nahIM calegA? sabakI karmarUpI paccar3a alaga-alaga hotI haiM yA eka hI prakAra kI? alaga-alaga hotI haiN| kyoMki sabake cehare alaga-alaga taraha ke hote haiN| ye mA~jI, ina bahana ko sikhalAne jAe~, to vaha kaise ho sakegA? dAdAjI samajha jAte haiM ki mA~jI meM yaha paccar3a hai aura bahana meM yaha paccar3a hai| hameM to usakA bhI patA cala jAtA hai ki kisa vajaha se ina logoM kI karmarUpI paccar3a utpanna huI hai| vaha to usa vyakti kA nirIkSaNa karake

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202 AptavANI-6 pahacAnA jA sakatA hai ki ina bhAI kI pahalevAlI paccar3a kaisI hai| abhI kA nirIkSaNa aisA kahatA hai ki yaha saba galata hai, yaha jhaMjhaTa hamArA hai hI nhiiN| paraMtu pahale kI paccar3oM kI muhara laga cukI hai, unakA kyA hogA? unheM to bhoge binA cArA nahIM! ve paccar3eM kar3ave-mIThe rasa cakhAkara jAtI haiM ! ghar3Ibhara meM mIThA rasa detI haiM to ghar3Ibhara meM kar3avA rasa detI haiM ! mIThA rasa pasaMda hai Apako? jaba taka mIThA rasa pasaMda hai, taba taka kar3ave ke prati nApasaMdagI rhegii| mIThA pasaMda AnA baMda ho jAegA na, to kar3ave ke prati nApasaMdagI bhI baMda ho jaaegii| yaha mIThA kaba taka acchA lagatA hai? taba kahe, mokSa meM hI sukha hai, aisA pUrA-pUrA abhiprAya abhI taka maz2abUta nahIM huA hai| abhI to abhiprAya kaccA rahatA hai, isalie aisA bolate rahanA ki, 'saccA sukha mokSa meM hI hai, aura yaha saba jhUThA hai, aisA hai, vaisA hai|' isa taraha se thor3I-thor3I dera meM 'Apako' 'caMdabhAI' ko samajhAte rahanA hai| koI rUma meM nahIM ho, Apa akele hoM, taba upadeza bhI de sakate ho ki, 'caMdUbhAI! baiTho, bAta ko samajha jAo na!' jaba koI nahIM ho taba Apa aisA karoge to kisI ko kyA patA calegA ki Apa kyA nATaka kara rahe ho? koI ho taba to vaha Apako kyA kahegA ki yaha ghanacakkara ho gayA hai ki kyA? 'are, ghanacakkara nahIM huaa| ghanacakkara ho cukA thA use maiM nikAla rahA hU~!' to bhI vaha to aisA hI kahegA ki, 'Apa caMdUbhAI ke sAtha bAta karate ho to Apa kaise insAna ho? Apa khuda hI caMdUbhAI nahIM ho?' isalie jaba Apa akele hoM, tabhI rUma baMda karake caMdUbhAI se kahanA, 'baiTho caMdUbhAI, hama thor3I bAtacIta kreNge| Apa aisA karate ho, vaisA karate ho, usameM Apako kyA phAyadA? hamAre sAtha ekAkAra ho jAo na? hamAre pAsa to apAra sukha hai!' yaha to unheM judAI hai, isalie Apako kahanA par3atA hai| jisa taraha isa choTe bacce ko samajhAnA par3atA hai, kahanA par3atA hai, vaise hI 'caMdUbhAI' ko bhI kahanA par3atA hai, tabhI sIdhA clegaa| arIsA sAmAyika Apa kabhI arIsA (darpaNa) meM dekhakara caMdUbhAI ko DA~Tate ho? hama

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AptavANI-6 203 darpaNa ke sAmane caMdUbhAI ko baiThAkara kaheM ki, 'Apane kitAbeM chapavAI, jJAnadAna kiyA, vaha to bahuta acchA kAma kiyA, lekina isake alAvA Apa aisA karate ho, vaisA karate ho, vaha kisalie karate ho?' aisA khuda apane Apa se kahanA par3egA yA nahIM? sirpha dAdA hI kahate raheM, usake bajAya Apa bhI kaho to ve bahuta mAneMge, ApakA adhika mAneMge! maiM kahU~ taba Apake mana meM kyA hogA? mere sAthavAle par3osI haiM 've' mujhe nahIM kahate, aura ye dAdA mujhe kyoM kaha rahe haiM? ataH Apako khuda ko hI ulAhanA denA hai| auroM kI sabhI bhUleM nikAlanI AtI haiM aura khuda kI eka bhI bhUla nikAlanI nahIM aatii| paraMtu Apako to bhUleM nahIM nikAlanI haiM, Apako to caMdUbhAI ko DA~TanA hI hai j'raa| Apa to khuda kI sabhI bhUleM jAna gae ho| isalie aba 'Apako' caMdUbhAI ko ulAhanA denA hai, ve narama bhI haiM, phira 'mAnI' bhI utane hI haiM, hara prakAra se 'mAnavAlA' hai| isalie unheM z2arA paTAe~ to bahuta kAma ho jaae| aba yaha DA~Tane kA abhyAsa hameM kaba karanA cAhie? apane ghara para eka-do loga DA~TanevAle rakheM, paraMtu ve sacamuca ke DA~TanevAle nahIM hoMge na? sacamuca ke DA~TanevAle hoMge to kAma kA hai, tabhI pariNAma aaegaa| nahIM to jhUThA banAvaTI DA~TanevAlA hogA to kAma kA pariNAma nahIM aaegaa| hameM koI DA~TanevAlA ho to hameM usakA lAbha lenA cAhie na? yaha to aisA seTa karanA nahIM AtA hai na! praznakartA : DA~TanevAle hoMge to hameM acchA nahIM lgegaa| dAdAzrI : ve pasaMda nahIM haiM, paraMtu roz2a-roz2a DA~TanevAle mila gae hoM, phira to hameM nikAla karanA AnA cAhie na ki yaha roz2a kA ho gayA hai, to kaise ThikAnA par3egA? isake bajAya to Apa apanI 'guphA' meM ghusa jAo na? arIsA meM ThapakA sAmAyika praznakartA : Apane kahA hai ki, 'maiM jIva nahIM hU~, paraMtu ziva huuN|' lekina vaha alaga nahIM hotaa|

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204 AptavANI-6 dAdAzrI : vaha usakA bhAva chor3atA nahIM na? vaha apanA haqa chor3egA kyA? isalie hameM use samajhA-samajhAkara, paTA-paTAkara kAma lenA pdd'egaa| kyoMki vaha to bholA hai| pudgala kA svabhAva kaisA hai? bholA hai| to use isa prakAra kalApUrvaka kareMge to vaha pakar3a meM A jaaegaa| jIva aura ziva bhAva donoM alaga hI haiM na? abhI jIvabhAva meM AegA, usa ghar3I AlUbar3A vagairaha saba khAegA aura zivabhAva meM AegA taba darzana karegA! praznakartA : paraMtu jIva kA mana svataMtra hai? dAdAzrI : bilkula svataMtra hai| mana ApakA virodha kare, aisA Apane dekhA hai yA nahIM? are, 'merA' mana hogA to, vaha merA virodhI kisa taraha banegA? isa taraha virodha kare, taba patA nahIM cala jAegA ki vaha svataMtra hai yA nahIM? praznakartA : vANI para kaMTrola nahIM hai, isalie mana para bhI kaMTrola nahIM hai| dAdAzrI : jo virodha kare usa para hamArA kaMTrola nahIM hai| pahale to Apa, 'maiM jIva hU~' aisA mAnate the| aba vaha mAnyatA TUTa gaI hai aura 'maiM ziva hU~' aisA patA cala gyaa| paraMtu jIva kabhI usakA bhAva chor3egA nahIM, usakA haqa-vaqa kucha bhI chor3egA nhiiN| paraMtu use yadi paTAe~ to vaha sabakucha chor3a de aisA hai| jisa prakAra kusaMga ke prabhAva se kusaMgI ho jAtA hai aura satsaMga ke prabhAva se satsaMgI ho jAtA hai, usI taraha use samajhAe~ to vaha sabakucha chor3a de aisA samajhadAra hai| aba Apako kyA karanA hai ki Apako caMdUbhAI ko baiThAkara unake sAtha bAtacIta karanI par3egI ki Apa sar3asaTha sAla kI umra meM roz2a satsaMga meM Ate ho, usakA bahuta dhyAna rakhate ho, vaha bahuta acchA kAma karate ho! paraMtu sAtha hI sAtha yaha bhI samajhAnA, aura salAha denA ki, 'deha kA itanA dhyAna kyoM rakhate ho? deha meM aisA hotA hai, vaha bhale hI ho| Apa hamAre sAtha yoM Tebala para A jAo na! hamAre pAsa apAra sukha hai|' aisA Apako caMdUbhAI se kahanA caahie| caMdUbhAI ko aise darpaNa ke sAmane baiThAyA ho to vaha Apako ekjekTa dikheMge yA nahIM dikheMge?

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AptavANI-6 205 praznakartA : aMdara bAtacIta to merI ghaMToM taka calatI hai| dAdAzrI : paraMtu aMdara bAtacIta karane meM aura anya phona le lete haiM, isalie unheM sAmane baiThAkara U~cI AvAz2a meM bAtacIta karanI cAhie, tAki anya koI phona le hI nahIM na ! praznakartA : khuda ko sAmane kisa taraha baiThAe~? dAdAzrI : tU 'caMdUbhAI' ko sAmane baiThAkara DA~Ta rahA ho to 'caMdUbhAI' bahuta samajhadAra bana jaaeNge| tU khuda hI DA~Te ki, 'caMdUbhAI, aisA to hotA hogA? yaha Apane kyA lagA rakhA hai? aura kara rahe ho to aba sIdhA karo na?' aisA Apa kaho to kyA burA hai? koI aura jhir3ake to acchA lagegA? isalie hama Apako caMdUbhAI ko DA~Tane kA kahate haiN| nahIM to bilkula aMdhera hI calatA rahegA! yaha pudgala kyA kahatA hai ki 'Apa to 'zuddhAtmA' ho gae, paraMtu hamArA kyA?' vaha dAvA dAyara karatA hai, vaha bhI haqadAra hai| vaha bhI icchA rakhatA hai ki hameM bhI kucha caahie|' isalie use paTA lenA caahie| vaha to bholA hai| bholA isalie hai ki mUrkha kI saMgata mile to mUrkha bana jAtA hai aura samajhadAra kI saMgata mile to samajhadAra bana jAtA hai| cora kI saMgata mile to cora bana jAtA hai ! jaisA saMga vaisA raMga! paraMtu vaha khuda kA haqa chor3a de, aisA nahIM hai| tujhe 'caMdUbhAI' ko darpaNa ke sAmane baiThAkara aisA prayoga karanA caahie| darpaNa meM to mu~ha vagairaha saba dikhatA hai| phira Apa 'caMdUbhAI' se kaheM 'Apane aisA kyoM kiyA? Apako aisA nahIM karanA hai| patnI ke sAtha matabheda kyoM karate ho? to phira Apane zAdI kyoM kI? zAdI karane ke bAda aisA kyoM karate ho?' aisA saba kahanA pdd'egaa| aise darpaNa meM dekhakara ulAhanA doge, eka-eka ghaMTA, to bahuta zakti bar3ha jaaegii| yaha bahuta bar3I sAmAyika kahalAtI hai| Apako caMdUbhAI kI sabhI bhUloM kA patA calatA hai na? jitanI bhUleM dikheM utanI Apane caMdUbhAI ko daparNa ke sAmane eka ghaMTe taka baiThAkara kaha dI to vaha saba se bar3I sAmAyika!

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206 AptavANI-6 praznakartA : hama darpaNa meM na kareM aura aise hI mana ke sAtha akeleakele bAta kareM, taba vaha nahIM ho sakatA? dAdAzrI : nahIM, vaha nahIM hogaa| vaha to darpaNa meM Apako caMdUbhAI dikhane caahie| akele-akele mana meM karoge to nahIM A paaegaa| akeleakele karanA, vaha to 'jJAnIpuruSa' kA kaam| paraMtu Apako to aise hI bAlabhASA meM sikhalAnA par3egA na? aura yaha darpaNa hai to acchA hai, nahIM to lAkha rupaye kA darpaNa kharIdakara lAnA pdd'taa| ye to saste darpaNa haiM! RSabhadeva bhagavAna ke samaya meM akele sirpha bharata cakravartI ne hI zIzamahala banavAyA thA! aura abhI to itane bar3e-bar3e darpaNa saba jagaha dikhate haiM! yaha saba paramANu kI thyorI hai| paraMtu yadi darpaNa ke sAmane baiThAkara karo na to bahuta kAma nikala jAe, aisA hai| paraMtu koI karatA nahIM hai na? hama kaheM taba eka-do bAra karatA hai aura phira vApasa bhUla jAtA hai! arIsAbhavana meM kevalajJAna! bharata rAjA ko, RSabhadeva bhagavAna ne 'akrama jJAna' diyA aura aMta meM unhoMne arIsAbhavana (zIzamahala) kA AsarA liyA, taba jAkara unakA kAma huaa| arIsAbhavana meM aMgUThI nikala gaI thI, u~galI ko khAlI dekhI taba unheM huA ki sabhI u~galiyA~ aisI dikhatI haiM aura yaha u~galI kyoM aisI dikha rahI hai? taba patA calA ki aMgUThI nikala gaI hai, islie| aMgUThI ke kAraNa u~galI kitanI suMdara dikha rahI thI, phira calA aMdara tUphAna! vaha TheTha 'kevalajJAna' hone taka calA! vicAraNA meM utara gae ki aMgUThI ke AdhAra para u~galI acchI dikha rahI thI? mere kAraNa nahIM? to kahA ki tere kAraNa kaisA? vaha phira 'yaha nahIM hai merA, nahIM hai merA, nahIM hai merA' aise karate-karate 'kevalajJAna' prApta kiyA! arthAt hameM arIsAbhavana kA lAbha lenA caahie| apanA 'akrama vijJAna' hai| jo koI isakA lAbha legA, vaha kAma nikAla legA, paraMtu isakA kisI ko patA hI nahIM calatA na? bhale hI AtmA nahIM jAnatA ho, phira bhI arIsAbhavana kI sAmAyika z2abaradasta ho sakatI hai|

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AptavANI-6 207 praznakartA : kucha logoM ko Apa jJAna dete haiM, unameM se kucha ko to turaMta hI phiTa ho jAtA hai aura kaIyoM ko kitanI hI mAthApaccI karate haiM to bhI vaha phiTa nahIM hotaa| to kyA unameM zakti kama hotI hogI? dAdAzrI : vaha zakti nahIM hai| ve to karma kI paccar3eM Ter3hI-mer3hI lAe hote haiM, to kucha logoM kI paccar3eM sIdhI hotI haiN| ve sIdhI paccar3avAle to khuda hI khIMca lete haiM aura Ter3hI paccar3avAle ko aMdara jAne ke bAda Ter3hA hotA hai, ve aise khIMce to bhI vaha nikalatA nahIM hai| AMkar3e Ter3he hote haiN| hamArI paccar3eM sIdhI thIM isalie jhaTapaTa nikala giiN| hameM Ter3hA nahIM aataa| hamArA to ekadama sIdhA-sIdhA aura khullamakhullA! aura Apa to kucha Ter3hA sIkhe hoNge| ho to Apa acche ghara ke, paraMtu bacapana meM Ter3hApana ghusa gayA to kyA ho? bhItara Ter3hI kIleM hoM to khIMcate hue z2ora AegA aura dera lagegI! strI jAti bhItara thor3A kapaTa rakhatI hai, unameM bhItara kA sApha nahIM hotA, kapaTa ke kAraNa hI to strI janma milA hai| aba 'svarUpajJAna' kI prApti ke bAda strI jaisA kucha rahA nahIM na? paraMtu kIleM z2arUra Ter3hI haiM, unheM nikAlane meM z2arA dera lagegI na! ve kIleM sIdhI hotI to phira dera hI nahIM lagatI na! puruSa z2arA bhole hote haiN| use strI jarA samajhAe to vaha samajha jAtA hai| aura strI bhI samajha jAtI hai, ki bhAI samajha gae aura abhI jAe~ge baahr| puruSoM meM bholApana hotA hai| thor3A sA kapaTa kiyA thA, to mallinAtha ko tIrthaMkara ke janma meM strI bananA par3A thA! eka thor3A sA kapaTa kiyA thA, phira bhI! kapaTa chor3atA nahIM na! phira bhI aba svarUpajJAna hone ke bAda apane meM strIpanA aura puruSapanA nahIM rhaa| 'hama' 'zuddhAtmA' ho gae! kusaMga kA raMga... khuda kI icchA nahIM ho phira bhI loga bAhara jAte haiM aura kusaMga meM par3a hI jAte haiM, kusaMga lage bagaira rahatA hI nhiiN| kaI loga kahate haiM ki maiM zarAbI ke sAtha ghUmatA hU~, paraMtu maiM zarAba pIU~gA hI nhiiN| lekina tU ghUma rahA hai, yAnI tabhI se tU zarAba pIne lgegaa| eka dina saMgata apanA svabhAva dikhAe binA rahegI hI nhiiN| isalie saMgata chodd'|

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208 AptavANI-6 vAstava meM Apako zuddhAtmA kI pratIti to ho cukI hai, paraMtu huA kyA hai ki sacce anubhava kA jo svAda hai, use nahIM Ane detaa| ApakA sahI TesTa huA kaba kahalAegA ki ghara meM sAmanevAlA vyakti ugra ho jAe aura ApameM bhI ugratA utpanna ho jAe to samajhanA ki ApameM kamI hai|

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[27] aTakaNa se laTakaNa aura laTakaNa se bhaTakaNa... dAdAzrI : kabhI Apako galagaliyA (vRttiyoM ko gudagudI honA) ho cuke haiM kyA? praznakartA : ravivAra Ae aura resa kA TAima hotA hai, taba aMdara galagaliyA ho jAte haiN| dAdAzrI : hA~, kyoM zanivAra ko nahIM aura ravivAra ko hI vaisA hotA hai? dravya-kSetra-kAla aura bhAva, cAroM hI ikaTThe ho jAe~ tabhI galagaliyA hotA hai| anaMta kAla se laTake hae haiM, saba apanI-apanI aTakaNa (jo baMdhanarUpa ho jAe, Age nahIM bar3hane de) se laTake haiM ! anAdi se kyoM laTaka par3A hai? abhI taka usakA nikAla kyoM nahIM AtA? taba kyA kahate haiM ki khuda ko aTakaNa par3I hotI hai, hara eka meM kucha na kucha alaga-alaga taraha kI aTakaNa hotI hai, usake AdhAra para laTakA huA hai! yaha aTakaNa Apako samajha meM AI? ye ghor3AgAr3I jA rahI ho, ghor3A maz2abUta ho, aura rAste meM koI kabra ho, aura usa kabra ke Upara harA kapar3A DhaMkA huA ho to, ghor3A use dekhate hI khar3A raha jAtA hai| vaha kisalie? kyoMki kabra ke Upara jo harA kapar3A dekhatA hai, vaha naI taraha kA lgaa| isalie ghabarA jAtA hai, phira use cAhe jitanA mAre, taba bhI vaha nahIM hiltaa| phira bhale hI mAlika mArakara, samajhA-bujhAkara, A~khoM para hAtha rakhakara le jAe, vaha bAta alaga hai| paraMtu dUsare dina vApasa vahIM para aTaka jAtA hai, kyoMki aTakaNa par3a gaI hai, usa samaya vaha sAna-bhAna-jJAna sabakucha bhUla jAtA hai| use agara mArane jAo to vaha ghor3AgAr3I ko bhI ulaTa de!

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210 AptavANI-6 isI taraha manuSya kisI jagaha para mUrchita ho gayA, kisI cIz2a meM mUrchita ho gayA yAnI ki aTakaNa par3a cukI hotI hai| usakI vaha aTakaNa jAtI nahIM, yAnI kisI bhI jagaha para mUrchita nahIM ho, aisA vyakti bhI aTakaNa kI jagaha Ate hI vahA~ para vaha mUrchita ho jAtA hai| jJAna, bhAna sabakucha kho detA hai, aura usase kucha ulTA ho jAtA hai| isalie kavirAja kahate haiM : 'aTakaNathI laTakaNa, laTakaNathI bhaTakaNa, bhaTakaNanI khaTakaNa para, chAMTo crnn-rjknn|' aba bhaTakana meM se chUTanA ho to chir3ako 'caraNa-rajakaNa'! caraNarajakaNa chir3akakara isakA hala le Ao aba, tAki phira se usa aTakaNa kA bhaya nahIM rhe| aTakaNa, anAdi kI! yAnI hara eka ko aTakaNa par3I huI hai, usI se ye saba aTake hue haiM aura kauna sI aTakaNa par3I huI hai, aba use DhUMDha nikAlanA caahie| kabristAna ke sAmane aTakaNa hotI hai yA kahA~ para aTakaNa hotI hai? use DhU~Dha nikAlanA caahie| anaMta janmoM kI bhaTakana hai| vaha sirpha aTakaNa hI hai, aura kucha nahIM! aTakaNa arthAt mUrchita ho jAnA! svabhAna kho denA! sabhI jagaha para aTakaNa nahIM hotI, ghara se nikalA vaha kahIM sabhI jagaha mArapITa nahIM karatA, rAga-dveSa nahIM karatA, paraMtu use aTakaNa meM rAga-dveSa hai! isa ghor3e kA udAharaNa to Apako samajhAne ke lie batA rahA hU~! khuda kI aTakaNa DhU~Dha nikAlegA, taba phira patA calegA ki 'kahA~ para mUrchita ho gayA hU~, mUrchita hone kI jagaha kahA~ para hai?' praznakartA : yaha aTakaNa yAnI pakar3a? dAdAzrI : nahIM, pakar3a nhiiN| pakar3a to Agraha meM AtA hai| aTakaNa se to mUrchita ho jAtA hai| jJAna, bhAna sabhIkucha kho detA hai| jaba ki Agraha meM jJAna-bhAna sabakucha hotA hai!

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AptavANI- -6 manuSya mAtra meM kamaz2orI to hotI hI hai na? ina kamaz2orI ke guNoM ke kAraNa manuSyapana kAyama hai| manuSya kI kamaz2orI jAe taba mukta ho jaaegaa| paraMtu yaha kamaz2orI jAe aisI nahIM hai| use kauna nikAle ? 'jJAnIpuruSa' ke alAvA aura koI bhI kamaz2orI nahIM nikAla sakatA na! usa kamaz2orI kA 'jJAnIpuruSa' khuda vivecana kara dete haiM aura use nikAla dete haiN| 'jJAnIpuruSa' to, ghor3A bhale hI kitanA bhI aTaka gayA ho to bhI use Age le jAte haiN| kAna meM phUMka mArakara, samajhAkara, maMtra par3hakara bhI Age le jAte haiN| varnA mAra DAlo phira bhI ghor3A nahIM khisakatA / ghor3A to kyA, are bar3e-bar3e hAthI hoM, ve bhI jahA~ para aTakaNa A jAe, vahA~ para hilate nhiiN| 211 praznakartA: paraMtu bhagavana, pichale janma ke kucha tIvra saMskAra hoMge ki jisase hama Apake caraNoM meM Ae haiM ? dAdAzrI : saMskAra ke AdhAra para hI to yaha milatA hai, lekina ise chur3avAtA kauna hai? aTakaNa chur3avA detI hai, aTakaNa judA kara detI hai! isalie aTakaNa ko pahacAna lenA ki aTakaNa kahA~ para hai? phira vahA~ para sAvadhAna aura sAvadhAna hI rhnaa| tU aTakaNa ko pahacAna gayA hai? cAroM ora se pahacAna gayA hai ? aise pIche se jA rahA ho to bhI patA cale ki yaha aTakaNa calI apanI ! hA~, itanA adhika sAvadhAna rahanA cAhie ! aTakaNa to jJAnI hI DhU~Dha sakate haiM, aura koI nahIM DhU~Dha sktaa| bhole manuSya kI aTakaNa bholI hotI hai, vaha jaldI chUTa jAtI aura kapaTI manuSya kIaTakaNa kapaTI hotI haiM aura vaha to bahuta vikaTa hotI haiM ! aTakaNa se aTakA anaMta sukha aba bilkula 'klIyaransa' aMdara ho jAnA caahie| yaha 'akrama jJAna' milA aura khuda ko niraMtara sukha meM rahanA ho to rahA jA sakatA hai, aisA hamAre pAsa 'jJAna' hai| isalie aba kisa taraha se aTakaNa se chUTe, kisa taraha usase hama chUTa jAe~, aisA hala le aanaa| usake lie AlocanApratikramaNa aura pratyAkhyAna karake bhI hala le AnA caahie| pahale sukha

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212 AptavANI-6 nahIM thA, taba taka manuSya aTakaNa meM hI par3egA na? paraMtu zAzvata sukha utpanna hone ke bAda phira kisalie? saccA sukha kisalie utpanna nahIM hotA? vaha isa aTakaNa ke kAraNa nahIM AtA! praznakartA : paraMtu dAdA, caubIsoM ghaMTe AtmA kA anubhava, lakSya aura pratIti rahatI ho, to phira aTakaNa kA prazna rahegA kyA? dAdAzrI : nahIM, aisA sabhI ko rahatA hai, paraMtu aTakaNa to aMdara hotI hai na, aTakaNa to DhU~Dha nikAlanI cAhie ki aTakaNa kahA~ para hai? aTakaNa jAne ke bAda jagat Apa para AfarIna hotA jaaegaa| Apako dekhate hI jagat ke jIvoM ko AnaMda hotA jaaegaa| yaha to aTakaNa ke kAraNa AnaMda nahIM hotaa| yaha darpaNa hai, vaha eka hI vyakti kA ceharA dikhAtA hai yA sabhI ke cehare dikhAtA hai? jo koI ceharA sAmane rakhe, use dikhAtA hai| vaisA hI, darpaNa jaisA klIeransa ho jAe, taba kAma kA! isa aTakaNa ke kAraNa logoM ko aTrekzana nahIM hotA, aTrekzana honA cAhie, phira usakA zabda hI 'brahmavAkya' kahalAtA hai| isalie kahA~ para aTakaNa hai, vaha DhU~Dha nikaalo| anubhava-lakSya aura pratIti to anya sabhI ko bhI rahatI hai, paraMtu aTrekzana kisalie nahIM bar3hatA? aTrekzana honA to cAhie na jagat meM? naqada arthAt nk'd| vaha udhAra to nahIM dikhanA cAhie na? yAnI bhItara meM kAraNa DhU~Dha nikAlane caahie| aTakaNa to, dasa dinoM taka hoTala nahIM dikhe taba taka kucha bhI nahIM hotaa| paraMtu hoTala dikhA to ghusa jAtA hai! saMyoga mile ki galagaliyA ho jAte haiM! Apane eka vyakti kI zarAba chur3avAI ho, to vaha phira satsaMga meM baiThe to zAMti meM rahatA hai| kaI dinoM taka vaha zarAba ko bhUla jAtA hai, phira kisI dina Apake sAtha ghUmane gayA aura dukAna kA borDa par3hA ki, 'dArU cI dukAna' ki turaMta usake aMdara sabakucha badala jAtA hai, use aMdara galagaliyA ho jAtA hai| taba vaha Apase kyA kahegA, "caMdUbhAI, maiM 'mekavoTara' karake AtA huuN|' are mue, rAste meM mekavoTara karane kI bAta

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AptavANI- -6 karatA hai? taba hama samajha jAte haiM ki ise galagaliyA ho gayA hai| kucha na kucha samajhAkara vaha dukAna meM pIche se ghusa jAtA hai aura z2arA sI gaTaka letA hai, tabhI chor3atA hai ! 213 isa aTakaNa ke bAre meM Apako samajha meM AyA na? vaha aTakaNa hameM mUrchita kara detI hai| isalie jJAna - darzana sabhI kucha utane TAima taka, pA~ca-dasa miniTa taka pUrA mUrchita kara detI hai| jokhamI, nikAcita karma yA aTakaNa? praznakartA : jise nikAcita karma kahate haiM, vahI aTakaNa hai na? dAdAzrI : aTakaNa to nikAcita karma se bhI bahuta bhArI hotI hai| nikAcita karma to choTA zabda hai / nikAcita karma yAnI ki usa karma ko bhoganA hI par3atA hai| aTakaNa ko bhoganA hI par3atA hai, utanA hI nahIM paraMtu Age ke lie bhI bhogane kA bIja DAla detI hai| jJAna ho phira bhI nikAcita karma ko to bhoge binA cArA nahIM hai / ApakI koI icchA nahIM hotI bhogane kI, phira bhI bhoganA hI par3atA hai| yAnI ina nikAcita karma meM harja nahIM hai| nikAcita karma to eka prakAra kA daMDa hai hamAre lie / jitanA daMDa honA hai vaha ho jAtA hai / paraMtu isa aTakaNa kI to bahuta parezAnI hai| praznakartA : vedAnta meM kriyamANa kahate haiM, vahI hai na? dAdAzrI : kriyamANa nahIM, kucha karma aise haiM ki socane mAtra se karma chUTa jAte haiM, dhyAna se karma chUTa jAte haiM aura kucha karma aise haiM ki nahIM bhoganA ho, icchA nahIM ho phira bhI bhogane hI par3ate haiM ! unheM nikAcita karma kahA jAtA hai / unheM bhArI karma kahA jAtA hai / aura yaha aTakaNa to aisI hai ki vaha dUsarA tUfAna khar3A kara detI hai ! yAnI isa aTakaNa kA to bahuta soca-samajhakara rAstA nikAlanA caahie| isalie ye lar3ake choTI umra meM hI puruSArtha meM laga par3e haiM ki kisa taraha se yaha aTakaNa TUTe ?

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214 AptavANI-6 aTakaNa ko chedanevAlA - parAkrama bhAva praznakartA : aTakaNa ko tor3ane ke lie usake pIche par3e to z2abaradasta parAkramabhAva utpanna ho jAegA na? dAdAzrI : vaha parAkrama hogA, tabhI aTakaNa ke pIche par3A jA skegaa| aTakaNa ke pIche par3ate haiM, vahI parAkrama kahalAtA hai| parAkrama ke binA aTakaNa TUTa sake, aisA nahIM hai| yaha 'parAkramI puruSa' kA kAma hai| yaha Apako jJAna diyA hai, to parAkrama ho sakatA hai! nikAcita to bhoganA hI pdd'egaa| usameM kucha cala sake, aisA nahIM hai| paraMtu usameM dUsarA tUfAna khar3A nahIM hogA, kyoMki usameM khuda kI icchA jaisA kucha nahIM rhtaa| Ama milA to khA legA, nahIM milA to koI bAta nhiiN| Ama bhoganA hI par3atA hai, khAnA hI par3atA hai| bhoganA nahIM hai phira bhI bhoganA par3atA hai, kyoMki vaha pudgala sparzanA hai, usameM kisI kA kucha calatA nhiiN| paraMtu aTakaNa meM to aMdara chupI-chupI bhI, lekina icchA rahI huI hai! isalie isa kAla meM ina 'jJAnIpuruSa' kI hAz2irI meM rahakara, khuda kI jo aTakaNa ho use jar3amUla se ukhAr3akara eka ora rakha denaa| aura use eka ora rakhA jA sake, aisA hai| ina 'jJAnIpuruSa' kI hAz2irI se sabhI roga miTa jAte haiM! tamAma rogoM ko miTAe, vaha 'jJAnIpuruSa' kI hAz2irI! Apako aTakaNa priya hai kyA? praznakartA : nahIM, aTakaNa kA patA calane ke bAda to (A~kha meM) kaNa kI taraha cubhegii| phira kahA~ se vaha priya hogI? dAdAzrI : hA~, cubhegI! use 'mAyAzalya' kahate haiM! praznakartA : eka tarapha aTakaNa cala rahI hotI hai aura usakA khyAla rahatA hai, dUsarI tarapha eka mana ko acchA lagatA hai aura eka mana ko acchA nahIM lagatA, aisA saba sAtha meM hotA hai| dAdAzrI : hA~, paraMtu aTakaNa yAnI attknn| use ukhAr3akara eka ora rakha denaa| phira se bIja ke rUpa meM uge nahIM, isa taraha usakI mukhya jar3a nikAla denI par3egI aura parAkrama se vaha ho sakegA, aisA hai!

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AptavANI-6 215 praznakartA : yaha aTakaNa jaba AtI hai, taba 'dAdA' bhI hAz2ira hote haiM? hama kaheM ki dAdA, dekhie yaha saba A rahA hai, to? dAdAzrI : aTakaNa to mUrchita kara detI hai| usa samaya 'dAdA' lakSya meM nahIM rahate, aTakaNa to dAdA bhI bhulavA detI hai| AtmA bhulA detI hai aura mUrchita kara detI hai hameM! jAgRti hI nahIM rhtii| 'dAdA' hAz2ira raheM to use aTakaNa nahIM kahate, paraMtu nikAcita kahate haiN| praznakartA : aTakaNa kA bAda meM patA cale, to usakA kyA upAya karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : vaha mUrchA hai, vaisA hameM dekha lenA caahie| usakI sAmAyika karanI pdd'egii| yahA~ para ye saba karate haiM na, usa taraha sAmAyika meM sTeja para rakhanA pdd'egaa| praznakartA : choTe bacce ko beTa-baoNla nahIM mile taba taka mana meM vahI rahatA hai, haMgAmA macAe to vaha usakI aTakaNa kahalAegI? dAdAzrI : nahIM, vaha usakI aTakaNa nahIM khlaaegii| aTakaNa to anAdi se jisase bhaTakA hai, vaha hai! ye beTa-baoNla to utane samaya ke lie hI haiM, vaha to pA~ca-sAta sAla kI umra hai, tabhI taka vaha rahegA! vaha bAla avasthA hai, tabhI taka use vaha rhegaa| aura phira vyApAra meM laga jAe to use phira isake lie kucha bhI nahIM rhegaa| aura aTakaNa to niraMtara rahatI hai, vaha paMdraha varSa se lekara bUr3hA ho jAe taba taka aTakaNa rahatI hai! praznakartA : puruSArtha se, parAkrama se aTakaNa kA nikAla ho sakatA hai na? dAdAzrI : hA~, sabakucha ho sakatA hai| isIlie to hama cetAvanI dete haiM ki jahA~ para AtmA prApta huA, jahA~ para puruSa bane ho, puruSArtha hai, parAkrama kiyA jA sake vaisA hai, to aba kAma nikAla lo| phira se aTakanA jokhimavAlA hai, vahA~ para hala nikAla lo! khuda kA kisI prakAra kA sukha nahIM ho taba kaisI bhI aTakaNa par3a

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216 AptavANI-6 jAtI hai, paraMtu aba khuda kA svayaMsukha utpanna huA hai, aba Apako anya kisI sukha ke avalaMbana kI z2arUrata nahIM hai| isalie una sukhoM ko eka ora rakha denaa| yaha sukha aura vaha sukha donoM eka sAtha utpanna nahIM hote| isalie aTakaNa ko DhUMDha nikaalo|| anubhava, lakSya aura pratIti to sabhI ko rahatI hai| vaha puruSArtha kA phala nahIM hai| vaha to 'dAdAI' kRpA kA phala hai| aba puruSArtha aura parAkrama kaba kahalAegA? jisase Apa laTake ho vaha laTakAnevAlI DorI TUTa jAe taba! aba, parAkrama Apako karanA hai| yaha to Apako jo prApta ho gayA hai, vaha Apake puNya ke AdhAra para jJAnI kI kRpA prApta huI aura kRpA ke AdhAra para yaha prApta huA hai! ApakI yaha aTakaNa chUTe to ApakI bAta sabhI ko itanI pasaMda AegI! bAta galata nahIM hotI, bAteM kyoM acchI nahIM nikalatI, to kaheM 'aTakaNa ke kAraNa!' aTakaNa se vANI meM khiMcAva rahatA hai! aTakaNa se mukta hAsya bhI utpanna nahIM hotaa| aTakaNa ke khatma hone ke bAda vANI acchI nikalegI, hAsya acchA niklegaa| isalie sabhI aTakaNa nikAlakara jagat kA kalyANa karo! ye tIna cIjeM manohara ho jAnI cAhie - vANI, vartana aura viny| ye tIna cIjeM apane meM manohara utpanna haI, yAnI ki sAmanevAle ke mana kA haraNa kare vaise ho gae to samajhanA ki 'dAdA' jaise hone lage haiN| phira parezAnI nahIM hai| phira sephasAiDa hai ! yAnI ki yaha vANI, vartana aura vinaya, ye pratyakSa lakSaNa dikhane caahie| lakSaNa ke binA to saccI vastu pahacAna nahIM pAte na? aTakaNa kA aMta lAo nAztA-vAztA karo, vaha to karanA hI hotA hai| nAzte ke lie 'dAdA' ne Apatti nahIM utthaaii| paraMtu kisa AdhAra para laTake the, usa aTakaNa kA patA lagAo aura abhI bhI vaha tAra ho to mujhe kaho aura nahIM kahA jA sake aisA ho to Apa use DhU~Dhakara usake pIche parAkrama karoge to bhI

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AptavANI-6 217 clegaa| usake lie yahA~ para vidhi karake mana meM mA~ga karo, to bhItara zakti utpanna ho jaaegii| aura kucha hai nahIM! nikAcita se to baca hI nahIM skte| nikAcita kA artha aisA hai ki apanI icchA na ho, bilkula-bilkula bhI icchA nahIM ho, phira bhI bhoganA hI par3atA hai| khuda ke mana meM 'mujhe aba kucha nahIM cAhie', aisA ho to bhI karma use uThAkara le jAte haiM, isakA nAma nikaacit| jaise bhAva se baMdhana kiyA thA, vaise bhAva se chUTA! isalie nikAcita karma kI bhI Apatti nahIM hai| nikAcita to, yaha saMsAra sArA nikAcita hI hai| aba Apako strI kI icchA nahIM ho yA strI ko puruSa kI icchA nahIM ho, phira bhI bhoganA hI par3atA hai, yaha nikAcita karma hI kahalAtA hai, paraMtu aTakaNa kA harja hai! abhI bhI kahA~ para use galagaliyA ho jAtA hai, vaha dekhane kI z2arUrata hai! jahA~ galagaliyA ho, vahA~ para vaha mUrchita ho jAtA hai! galagaliyA zabda samajha meM AyA Apako? praznakartA : zabda sunA huA hai, paraMtu ekjekTa samajha meM nahIM aayaa| dAdAzrI : eka khAnadAnI lar3ake ko nATaka meM nAca karane kI Adata par3I ho, usase hama vaha chur3avA deM aura dUsare kisI paricaya meM rakheM, phira varSa-do varSa taka koI parezAnI nahIM hotI, paraMtu jaba vaha nATaka ke thiyeTara ke Age se jA rahA ho aura vaha borDa par3he to use galagaliyA ho jAtA hai| pichalA ajJAna saba ghera letA hai| use mUrchita kara detA hai aura cAhe kaise bhI, jhUTha bolakara bhI vaha aMdara ghusa jAtA hai| usa ghar3I kyA jhUTha bolanA, usakA kucha ThikAnA nahIM rhtaa| ___ arthAt jaba taka AtmA kA sukha nahIM ho taba taka kisI na kisI sukha meM DUbA huA hI rahatA hai| paraMtu AtmajJAna ke bAda, ApakA sukha kitanA suMdara rahatA hai! jaisA rakhanA ho vaisA rahe, samAdhi meM rahA jA sake, aisA hai| yAnI purAnI sabhI vastue~ khatma kI jA sakeM, aisA hai| apanA 'jJAna' aisA hai ki yadi pA~ca 'AjJA' meM niraMtara rahe to mahAvIra bhagavAna jaisI sthiti raha sakatI hai| vaise raha nahIM pAte, usakA kyA kAraNa hai? pUrvakarma ke udaya ke dhakke lagate haiN| hameM jAnA ho uttara meM paraMtu nAva dakSiNa kI ora jAtI hai| phira

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218 AptavANI-6 bhI hameM use jAnanA hai| lakSya meM hotA hai ki hameM jAnA hai uttara meM, lekina le jA rahI hai dakSiNa meN| vaha lakSya kabhI bhI cUkanA nahIM caahie| paraMtu rAste meM koI dUsarA nAva vAlA mile aura zIziyA~ dikhAe to aMdara galagaliyA ho jAtA hai, usakI parezAnI hai| phira vaha uttara dizA ko bilkula bhUla jAtA hai aura vahIM para mukAma kara letA hai| yaha saba aTakaNa kahalAtI hai| isalie hama kahate haiM ki saba tarapha se Apa chUTa jaao| aba 'puruSa' bane ho Apa, isalie parAkrama kara skoge| nahIM to manuSya pUrNarUpa se prakRti ke adhIna hai, laTU svarUpa hai! usa laTU kI dazA meM se mukta hokara parAkramI bane ho, sva-puruSArtha aura sva-parAkrama sahita ho! aura 'jJAnIpuruSa' kI chatrachAyA Apa para hai| phira Apako kyA Dara hai? praznakartA : isake lie Apake sAtha rahane kI z2arUrata hai kyA? dAdAzrI : nahIM, sAtha meM rahane kA to savAla hI nahIM hai, paraMtu adhika Taca meM to rahanA hI paDegA na! Taca meM rahoge to nikala gayA, aisA patA calegA na? Apa dUra hoMge, to kaise patA calegA? aura Taca meM rahoge to yaha roga nikAlane kI zakti bhI utpanna hogI na! khuda kI zakti se aTakaNa nikAlanI aura parAkrama karanA, vaha kucha AsAna nahIM hai| yahA~ se' zakti lekara karo, tabhI parAkrama hogaa| pahale to, ye aTakaNeM pahacAna meM hI nahIM AtIM ki unake rUpa kaise hote haiM, unakA carittara (pAkhaMDa se bharA huA vartana) kaisA hotA hai ! isalie usa aTakaNa ko DhU~Dha nikAlanA hai ki yaha galagaliyA kahA~ para ho jAte haiM, zAna-bhAna kahA~ para kho dete haiM? itanA hI dekha lenA hai ! 'Apako' dhyAna kitanA rakhanA hai isa caMdabhAI kA! usase kahanA ki 'tuma sabakucha khAnA, pInA, dAdA kI AjJA ke anusAra calanA, usameM kamI rahI to dekha leNge|' paraMtu caMdUbhAI ko kahA~ para galagaliyA hote haiM, isakA 'hameM dhyAna rakhanA hai| C.I.D. kI taraha usa para naz2ara rkhnaa| kyoMki anAdikAla se aTakaNa se hI isa jagat meM laTakA huA hai, aura phira vaha aTakaNa chUTatI bhI nahIM! vaha to abhI ye 'jJAnIpuruSa' haiM, ye aTakaNa chur3avA deMge!

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AptavANI- -6 219 saba se bar3I aTakaNa, viSaya se saMbaMdhita ! kRpAludeva ko lallUjI mahArAja ne sUrata se patra likhA thA ki hameM Apake darzana karane ke lie muMbaI AnA hai| taba kRpAludeva ne kahA ki, 'muMbaI to mohamayI nagarI hai / sAdhu - AcAryoM ke lie yaha kAma kI nahIM hai| yahA~ para to jahA~-tahA~ se moha ghusa jAegA, Apake mu~ha meM se nahIM ghusegA to kAna meM se ghusa jAegA, A~kha meM se ghusa jaaegaa| Akhira meM ye havA jAne ke chidra haiM, unameM se bhI moha ghusa jAegA ! isalie yahA~ para Ane meM phAyadA nahIM hai|' isakA nAma kRpAludeva ne kyA rakhA? 'mohamayI nagarI ! ' usameM maiMne Apako yaha jJAna diyA hai, aba kyA vaha mohamayI kucha ur3a gaI hai? kyA bI-o-ema- bI-e-vAya - bombe ho gayA? nahIM / mohamayI hI hai isIlie hama Apase kahate haiM ki dUsare pA~ca indriyoM ke viSaya nahIM, paraMtu striyoM ko aura puruSoM ko itanA hI kahate haiM ki jahA~ para strI viSaya yA puruSa viSaya saMbaMdhI vicAra AyA ki turaMta vahIM ke vahIM Apako pratikramaNa kara denA caahie| oNna da spaoNTa to kara hI denA cAhie, paraMtu phira bAda meM usake sau-do sau pratikramaNa kara lenA / I kabhI hoTala meM nAztA karane gae hoM aura usakA pratikramaNa nahIM kiyA ho to clegaa| maiM usakA pratikramaNa karavA lU~gA, paraMtu yaha viSaya saMbaMdhI roga nahIM ghusanA caahie| yaha to bhArI roga hai / isa roga ko nikAlane kI auSadhi kyA? taba kahe ki, hara eka manuSya ko jahA~ para aTakaNa ho, vahA~ para yaha roga hotA hai / kisI puruSa ko, yadi koI strI jA rahI ho to vaha use dekhe aura turaMta hI usake aMdara vAtAvaraNa badala jAtA hai| aba ye saba vaise to haiM tarabUje hI, paraMtu usane to vistArapUrvaka usakA rUpa DhU~Dha nikAlA hotA hai ! isa phUTa (eka prakAra kI kakar3I) ke Dhera para kyA use rAga hotA hai? paraMtu manuSya hai isalie use rUpa kI pahale se Adata hai|'ye A~kheM kitanI suMdara haiM ! bar3I-bar3I A~kheM haiM !' aise kahatA hai| are, bar3I-bar3I acchI A~kheM to usa bhaiMsa ke bhAI kI bhI hotI haiM / vahA~ para kyoM rAga nahIM hotA tujhe?' taba kahatA hai ki, 'vaha to bhaiMsA hai aura yaha to manuSya hai|' are, yaha to pha~sane kI jagaha hai!

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220 AptavANI-6 kAma nikAla lo isalie jahA~-jahA~, jisa-jisa dukAna meM apanA mana ulajhe, usa dukAna ke bhItara jo zuddhAtmA haiM, ve hI hameM chur3avAnevAle haiN| isalie una se mA~ga karanI cAhie ki 'mujhe isa abrahmacarya viSaya se mukta kreN|' aura sabhI jagaha Apa chUTane ke lie bhaTako, vaha nahIM calegA, usI dukAna ke zuddhAtmA Apako isa vidhi dvArA chur3avAnevAle haiM ! aba aisI kisI kI bahuta sArI 'dukAneM' nahIM hotii| thor3I hI 'dukAneM' hotI haiM, jinheM bahuta 'dukAneM hoM unheM adhika puruSArtha karanA par3egA, varnA jinakI thor3I sI hI 'dukAneM' hoM unheM to sApha karake ekjekTa' kara lenA caahie| khAne-pIne meM koI harja nahIM hai paraMtu isa viSaya kI parezAnI hai| strI viSaya aura puruSa viSaya, ye donoM baira khar3e karane ke kArakhAne haiM, isalie jaise-taise karake hala laao| praznakartA : isIko Apa 'kAma nikAla lenA' kahate haiM? dAdAzrI : aura kyA phira? ye saba jo roga haiM ve nikAla dene haiM! inameM se maiM Apako kucha bhI 'karane' ko nahIM kahatA huuN| sirpha 'jAnane' ko kahatA huuN| yaha 'jJAna' 'jAnane' yogya hai, 'karane' yogya nahIM hai| jo jJAna jAnA, vaha pariNAma meM Ae bagaira rahegA hI nhiiN| isalie Apako kucha bhI nahIM karanA hai| bhagavAna mahAvIra ne kahA thA ki vItarAga dharma meM 'karomi, karosi aura karoti' nahIM hotaa| apanI yaha aTakaNa hai, Apako usakA patA calatA hai yA nahIM calatA? praznakartA : turaMta hI patA cala jAtA hai| dAdAzrI : jisa prakAra laphar3e ko laphar3A jAnane se vaha chUTa jAtA hai, vaise hI aTakaNa ko aTakaNa jAnoge taba vaha chUTa jaaegii| bhagavAna ne kahA hai ki 'tane aTakaNa ko jAnA?' taba kahe, 'haaN|' taba bhagavAna kahate haiM, 'to tU mukta hai|' phira Apako kauna-se 'rUma' meM baiThanA hai, vaha Apako dekhanA hai ! bAhara kaMkar3a ur3a rahe hoM to 'Apako' apane 'rUma' meM baiTha jAnA cAhie aura 'klIyaransa' kI bela baje taba bAhara nikalanA caahie|

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AptavANI-6 221 praznakartA : puruSArtha bhAga jo hai vaha, usameM sUkSma samajha kA bhAga, vahI puruSArtha kahalAtA hai? indriyoM kI lagAma chor3a denI, vaha kyA isameM A jAegA? dAdAzrI : Apa subaha se bolo ki Aja indriyoM ke ghor3e kI lagAma chor3a dete haiM, isa prakAra pA~ca bAra zuddha bhAva se bolo| phira apane Apa hI chUTI huI lagAma ko dekho to sahI, eka ravivAra kA dina bItane to do! yaha to kyA ho jAegA, kyA ho jAegA?' 'are, kucha bhI nahIM hogA, tU to bhagavAna hai| kyA honevAlA hai bhagavAna ko?' khuda apane ApameM itanI himmata nahIM AnI cAhie ki maiM bhagavAna hU~? 'dAdA' ne mujhe bhagavAna pada diyA hai! aisA jJAna hai, phira bhagavAna ho gae ho| paraMtu abhI taka usakA pUrA-pUrA lAbha nahIM milatA! usakA kAraNa kyA hai? ki Apa use Az2amAiza kI taraha lete hI nahIM na! usa pada kA upayoga hI nahIM karate aura yadi thor3A-bahuta aisA rahe to? praznakartA : hameM ina pA~ca indriya ke viSayoM meM aruci se rahanA arthAt abhiprAya ke binA rahanA hai, aisA? dAdAzrI : abhiprAya to pUrA hI chUTa jAnA caahie| abhiprAya to bilkula honA hI nahIM caahie| kiMcitmAtra bhI abhiprAya ho, kisI jagaha para raha gayA ho, to use tor3a denA cAhie! isa saMsAra meM sukha hai, ina pA~ca indriyoM meM sukha hai', aisA abhiprAya to rahanA hI nahIM cAhie! aura ve abhiprAya, ve hamAre nahIM haiM ! ve abhiprAya saba caMdUbhAI ke! 'maiM to dAdA kA diyA huA zuddhAtmA hU~', aura zuddhAtmA, vahI paramAtmA hai! itanA samajha lene kI z2arUrata hai! ye pA~ca AjJAe~ dI haiM, ve zuddhAtmA ke proTekzana ke lie haiM! baira kA kArakhAnA yaha samabhAva se nikAla karane kA niyama kyA kahatA hai, ki tU, kisI bhI taraha se usake sAtha baira nahIM baMdhe, isa prakAra se nikAla kara de! baira se mukta ho jA! apane yahA~ to yahI eka cIz2a karane jaisI hai,

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222 AptavANI-6 ki baira nahIM bar3he ! aura baira bar3hane kA mukhya kArakhAnA kauna sA hai? yaha strI-viSaya aura puruSa-viSaya! praznakartA : usameM baira kisa taraha baMdhatA hai? anaMtakAla kA bairabIja par3atA hai, vaha kaise? dAdAzrI : aisA hai na ki yaha marA huA puruSa yA marI huI strI ho, to aisA mAneM na ki usameM kucha davAI bharakara puruSa, puruSa jaisA hI rahatA ho aura strI, strI jaisI hI rahatI ho to unake sAtha koI harja nahIM hai| unake sAtha baira nahIM baMdhegA, kyoMki vaha jIvita nahIM hai aura yaha to jIvita hai, vahA~ baira baMdhate haiN| praznakartA : ve kisalie baMdhate haiM? dAdAzrI : abhiprAya DipharenTa haiM isalie! Apa kahate ho ki 'mujhe abhI sinemA dekhane jAnA hai|' taba ve kaheMgI ki 'nahIM, Aja to mujhe nATaka dekhane jAnA hai!' yAnI TAimiMga nahIM milate! yadi ekjekTa TAimiMga para TAimiMga mila jAe~, tabhI vivAha karanA! praznakartA : phira bhI yadi koI aisA ho ki jaisA vaha kahe, vaisA ho bhI shii| dAdAzrI : vaha to koI g2az2aba kA puNyazAlI hogA to, usakI strI niraMtara usake adhIna rahegI! usa strI ke lie phira aura kucha bhI usakA khuda kA nahIM hotA, khuda kA koI abhiprAya hI nahIM hotA, vaha niraMtara adhIna hI rahatI hai! aisA hai, ina saMsAriyoM ko jJAna diyA hai| maiMne sAdhu banane ke lie nahIM kahA, paraMtu jo phAileM haiM unakA 'samabhAva se nikAla karo, kahA hai! aura pratikramaNa kro| ye do upAya batAe haiM ! ye donoM karoge to ApakI dazA ko koI ulajhAnevAlA hai hI nahIM! upAya nahIM batAe hoM to kinAre para khar3e raha hI nahIM pAte na? kinAre para jokhima hai! Apako vAipha ke sAtha matabheda hotA thA, usa ghar3I rAga hotA thA yA dveSa?

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AptavANI-6 223 praznakartA : vaha to, donoM bArI-bArI se hote haiN| hameM 'sUTebala' ho to rAga hotA hai aura 'oNpoz2iTa' ho to dveSa hotA hai| dAdAzrI : yAnI ki vaha saba rAga-dveSa ke adhIna hai| abhiprAya ekAkAra hote hI nahIM na! zAyada hI koI aisA puNyazAlI hogA ki jisakI strI kahe ki 'maiM Apake adhIna rahU~gI, cAhe kahIM bhI jAoge, citA meM jAoge taba bhI Apake hI adhIna rahU~gI!' vaha to dhanyabhAga hI kahalAe~ge na! paraMtu aisA kisI ko hI hotA hai ! yAnI isameM maz2A nahIM hai| hameM koI nayA saMsAra khar3A nahIM karanA hai| aba mokSa meM hI jAnA hai| jaise-taise karake phAyadA-nukasAna ke sabhI khAtoM kA nikAla karake khAtA baMda karake hala lA denA hai! yaha vAstava meM mokSa kA mArga hai! kisI kAla meM koI nAma na de, aisA yaha jJAna diyA huA hai ! paraMtu yadi Apa jAna-bUjhakara ulTA karo, to phira bigar3egA! phira bhI kucha samaya meM hala lA hI degA! arthAt eka bAra yaha jo prApta ho gayA hai, ise chor3ane jaisA nahIM hai! lokasaMjJA se abhiprAya avagAr3ha pUrA jagat abhiprAya ke kAraNa cala rahA hai| abhiprAya vastu to aisI hai na ki apane yahA~ Ama AyA, aura sabhI cIjeM AI, aba indriyoM ko hamArI prakRti ke anusAra bahuta pasaMda AtA hai aura indriyA~ saba khAtI haiM, z2yAdA khA jAtI haiM, paraMtu indriyoM ko aisA nahIM hai ki abhiprAya bnaaeN| yaha to buddhi aMdara nakkI karatI hai ki yaha Ama bahuta acchA hai ! isalie usakA Ama ke prati abhiprAya bana jAtA hai| phira dUsaroM ko aisA kahatA bhI hai, 'bhAI, Ama jaisI koI cIz2a nahIM duniyA meN|' phira use yAda bhI AtA rahatA hai, khaTakatA rahatA hai ki Ama nahIM mila rhaa| indriyoM ko aura koI Apatti nahIM hai, ve to kisI dina Ama Ae to khA letI haiM, nahIM Ae to kucha nhiiN| ye abhiprAya hI haiN| ve hI saba parezAna karate haiM ! aba isameM sirpha buddhi kAma nahIM karatI ! lokasaMjJA isameM bahuta kAma karatI hai! logoM ne jo mAnA huA hai, use pahale khuda bilIfa meM rakhatA hai, yaha

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224 AptavANI-6 acchA aura yaha khraab| phira khuda ke priyajana kaheM to usakI bilIfa adhika maz2abUta hotI jAtI hai! usI taraha ye abhiprAya koI detA nahIM hai, lekina lokasaMjJA se abhiprAya bana jAte haiM ki apane bagaira kaise hogA? aisA hama nahIM kareMge to kaise calegA? aisI saMjJA baiTha (phiTa ho) gaI hai, isalie phira hamane Apako 'vyavasthita' kartA hai, aisA jJAna diyA, isase ApakA abhiprAya badala gayA ki vAstava meM hama loga kartA nahIM hai, 'vyavasthita' kartA hai! lokasaMjJA se abhiprAya Dala gae haiM, ve jJAnI kI saMjJA se tor3a DAlane haiM! saba se bar3A abhiprAya, 'maiM kartA hU~' vaha to jisa dina jJAna diyA, usa dina 'jJAnIpuruSa' tor3a dete haiN| lekina hara kisI kI prakRti ke anusAra anya choTe-choTe, abhiprAya bana jAte haiN| kucha ke to bahuta bar3e abhiprAya hote haiM, ve aTakaNa kahalAte haiN| aise to karanA hI par3atA hai na! ve sAre abhiprAya abhI taka rahe hue haiM ve sabhI abhiprAya nikAla deMge na, to vItarAga mArga pUrI taraha khula jaaegaa| jaba 'maganabhAI' yahA~ rUma meM praveza kareM ki turaMta hI Apako usakI tarapha abhAva utpanna ho jAtA hai, kisalie? kyoMki 'maganabhAI' kA svabhAva hI nAlAyaka hai, aisA abhiprAya bana gayA hai| isalie 'maganabhAI' yadi kucha acchA batAne Ae~, phira bhI khuda use Ter3hA mu~ha dikhAtA hai| ve abhiprAya bana gae haiM, una sabako nikAlanA to par3egA hI na? / arthAt kisI bhI prakAra ke abhiprAya nahIM rakhane haiN| jisake lie kharAba abhiprAya bana gae hoM, ve saba tor3a denaa| ye to saba bekAra ke abhiprAya bana jAte haiM, galataphahamI se bana jAte haiN| koI kahegA ki, 'apanA abhiprAya uTha gayA to bhI usakI prakRti kyA badala jAnevAlI hai?' taba maiM kyA kahatA hU~ ki 'prakRti bhale na badale, usase hameM kyA matalaba?' to kahegA ki, 'phira hamAre bIca TakarAva to rahegA hI na?' to maiM kyA kahatA hU~ ki, 'nahIM, Apake jaise pariNAma sAmanevAle ke lie hoMge, vaise hI pariNAma sAmanevAle ke ho jaaeNge|' hA~, ApakA usake

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AptavANI-6 225 lie abhiprAya TUTA aura Apa usake sAtha khuza hokara bAta karoge to vaha bhI khuza hokara Apase bAta kregaa| phira usa ghar3I Apako usakI prakRti nahIM dikhegI! yAnI apane mana kI chAyA usa para par3atI hai! hamAre mana kI chAyA sabhI para kisa taraha par3atI hai! agara ghanacakkara ho, to bhI sayAnA ho jAtA hai! agara apane mana meM aisA ho ki 'ramaNabhAI' pasaMda nahIM hai, to ramaNabhAI ke Ane se nApasaMdagI utpanna hogI aura usakA phoTo usa para par3egA! usake aMdara turaMta phoTo par3atA hai ki inake aMdara kyA cala rahA hai! apane bhItara ke ve pariNAma sAmanevAle ko ulajhAte haiN| sAmanevAle ko khuda ko patA nahIM calatA, paraMtu use ulajhAte haiM! isalie Apako abhiprAya tor3a dene cAhie! apane sabhI abhiprAya Apako dho dene cAhie, tAki Apa chUTa jaao| varnA sabhI ke lie Apako kahIM kucha aisA nahIM hotaa| koI roz2a corI karatA ho to Apako, 'vaha cora hai', aisA abhiprAya banAne kI z2arUrata hI kyA hai? vaha corI karatA hai, vaha usake karma kA udaya hai ! aura jisakA use lenA hai, vaha usake karma kA udaya hai, usase hameM kyA lenA-denA? paraMtu yadi use hama cora kaheM to vaha abhiprAya hI hai n| aura vAstava meM to vaha AtmA hI hai n| bhagavAna ne sabako nirdoSa dekhA thaa| kisI ko unhoMne doSita dekhA hI nahIM aura hamArI vaisI zuddha dRSTi ho jAegI, taba zuddha vAtAvaraNa ho jaaegaa| phira pUrA jagat bagIce jaisA lgegaa| vAstava meM logoM meM koI durgaMdha nahIM hai| logoM ke bAre meM svayaM abhiprAya bAMdhatA hai| hama cAhe kisI kI bhI bAta kareM, paraMtu hameM kisI ke lie abhiprAya nahIM rahatA ki, 'vaha aisA hI hai!' phira anubhava bhI hotA hai ki abhiprAya nikAla die isalie isa vyakti meM yaha parivartana ho gayA! abhiprAya badalane ke lie kyA karanA par3egA? ki yadi vaha cora ho to hameM 'vaha sAhUkAra haiM', aisA kahanA caahie| 'maiMne isake lie aisA abhiprAya banAyA thA, vaha abhiprAya galata hai, aba yaha abhiprAya maiM chor3a detA hU~', isa taraha 'galata hai, galata hai' kahanA caahie|

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226 AptavANI-6 'merA abhiprAya 'galata hai" aisA kahanA, tAki ApakA mana bdle| nahIM to mana nahIM bdlegaa| kucha logoM kI vANI bahuta bigar3I huI hotI hai, vaha bhI abhiprAya ke kAraNa hotA hai| abhiprAya ke kAraNa kaThora vANI nikalatI hai, taMtIlI (tIkhI, cubhanevAlI) nikalatI hai! taMtIlI arthAt khuda aisA taMtIlA bolatA hai aura sAmanevAle ko bhI vaisA karane ko ukasAtA hai! anaMta janmoM se lokasaMjJA se cale haiM, usI kA yaha saba bharA huA mAla hai! yAnI jo abhiprAya bhare haiM, unakA jhaMjhaTa hai| jo abhiprAya nahIM rakhe, unakA koI jhaMjhaTa nahIM hotA! kamizana cukAe binA tapa hameM tapa karane z2arUra haiM, paraMtu ghara baiThe A par3e haiM ve, bulAne nahIM jAnA par3e ! puNyazAlI ke lie sabhI cIjeM ghara baiThe A jAtI haiN| gAr3I meM kabhI koI sAmane Akara jhagar3a par3e to hameM samajhanA cAhie ki yaha A par3A tapa hai ! ki 'ohoho! mujhe DhU~Dhate-DhU~Dhate ghara para AyA!' isIlie tapa karanA cAhie usa smy| bhagavAna mahAvIra prApta tapa ke alAvA aura koI tapa nahIM karate the| jo prApta tapa A par3A ho, usa tapa ko dhakelate nahIM the! ye to kyA karate haiM? nahIM AyA ho use bulAte haiM ki 'parasoM se mujhe tIna dina ke upavAsa karane haiM', aura jo AyA ho, usakA tiraskAra karate haiN| kaheMge, 'merA paira da:kha rahA hai, kisa taraha sAmAyika karU~? yaha paira hI aisA hai|' aura phira paira ko gAliyA~ bhI dete haiM ! 'merA paira aisA hai' aisA koI kisa taraha jAnegA? kisI ko jAnane diyA, to vaha tapa nahIM khlaaegaa| aisA yadi koI jAna gayA, to vaha tapa meM se hissA le gayA, aisA kahA jaaegaa| tapa hama kareM, aura phAyade meM se do Ane vaha khA jAe, aisA kisa kAma kA? usane hamArI bAta sunI usake badale use do Ane mila jAte haiN| aise AzvAsana lekara kamizana kauna de? muMbaI se bar3audA kAra meM AnA thA aura baiThate hI kaha diyA ki, 'sAta ghaMTe eka hI jagaha para baiThe rahanA hai| tapa AyA hai!' hama Apake sAtha

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AptavANI-6 227 to bAte karate haiM, paraMtu hamAre bhItara hamArI bAta calatI hI rahatI haiN|' ki 'Aja Apako prApta tapa AyA hai| isalie eka akSara bhI bolanA nahIM hai|' loga to dilAsA denA cAhate haiM ki, 'dAdA, Apako ThIka laga rahA hai yA nahIM?' to kaheM, 'bahuta acchA laga rahA hai|' paraMtu kamizana hama kisI ko bhI nahIM dete, kyoMki bhogate haiM hama! eka akSara bhI bole, ve dAdA koI aura! use prApta tapa kiyA kahA jAtA hai! uddIraNA, parAkrama se prApya! praznakartA : yaha uddIraNA (bhaviSya meM phala denevAle karmoM ko samaya se pahale jagAkara vartamAna meM khapAnA) karate haiM na, vaha kharA tapa nahIM kahalAtA? dAdAzrI : uddIraNA, vaha to puruSArtha mAnA jAtA hai! paraMtu puruSa hone ke bAda kA puruSArtha hai! vAstava meM to yaha parAkrama meM AtA hai ! sAtaveM guMThANe ke nIce koI kara nahIM sakatA, yaha parAkramabhAva hai! Apase isa jJAna ke bAda aba sabhI uddIraNAe~ ho sakatI haiM! Apako bIsa varSa bAda jo karma AnevAle hoM, to Aja Apa ve saba bhasmibhUta kara sakate ho! praznakartA : paraMtu vaha kisa taraha patA calegA ki bIsa varSa bAda AnevAlA hai? dAdAzrI : kyoM, vaha gA~Tha vilaya ho gaI to phira khatama, phira to 'eviDensa' ikaTThe hoMge, basa utanA hI, paraMtu duHkhadAyI nahIM rahA! praznakartA : hama jo ye pratikramaNa karate haiM, vaha uddIraNA hotI hai na? dAdAzrI : usameM uddIraNA hI hogii| kyoMki Aja ar3acana nahIM AI, phira bhI kisalie kara rahA hU~? vaha maujamaz2e ke lie nahIM hai! phira bhI pratikramaNa karate-karate jo AnaMda hotA hai, vaha lAbha atirikta hai| apanI yaha 'akrama' kI 'sAmAyika' Apa karate ho, usameM sabhI karmoM kI uddIraNAe~ ho jAe~, aisA hai| hama loga carama zarIrI nahIM haiM, isalie

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AptavANI-6 jinheM ye karma rahane dene hoM, ve rahane deM, paraMtu carama zarIrI ko to uddIraNA karanI hI par3atI hai| kyoMki use lagatA hai ki aba AyuSya kA aMta naz2adIka A rahA hai aura dukAna meM mAla Dhera sArA par3A huA dikha rahA hai! aba vaha mAla khapAe binA kisa taraha jAyA jA sakegA? eka tarapha muddata pUrI ho rahI hai, isalie bhagavAna kucha upAya kiijie| taba bhagavAna kahate haiM, 'karma kA vipAka karo / vipAka yAnI use pkaao| jaise hama Ama ko ghAsa meM rakhakara pakAte haiM na, vaise hI karmoM ko Apa pakAo / ' taba ve udaya meM Ae~ge / uddIraNA arthAt karmoM kA udaya Ane se pahale karmoM ko bulAkara khapA denA / praznakartA : use parAkrama kahA jAtA hai na? 228 dAdAzrI : vaha bahuta bar3A parAkrama kahalAtA hai / puruSArtha meM to khuda hai hI, paraMtu yaha parAkrama kahalAtA hai / yaha to usase bhI bahuta Age kA hai| praznakartA : Apane jo kahA hai na ki karmoM kA nAza kara dete haiM, to jo saMcita karma haiM, unakA kyA karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : saMcita karma to jaba samaya ho jAe, taba apane Apa paripakva hoMge, taba apane samakSa Akara khar3e rheNge| hameM unheM DhU~Dhane jAne kI z2arUrata nahIM hai| saMcita karma apanA phala dekara cale jAte haiM / aura jo puruSa ho cuke haiM, ve amuka yoga karake amuka karmoM ko khatma kara sakate haiM, lekina vaha puruSa hone ke bAda meM hI / Apa abhI jisa dazA meM ho, usa dazA meM vaisA nahIM ho sakatA / abhI Apako vaisA tAla nahIM baitthegaa| abhI to Apako prakRti nacA rahI hai aura Apa nAcate ho / puruSa hone ke bAda jisa yoga dvArA karmoM ko khatma karate haiM, use uddIraNA kahA jAtA hai| uddIraNA arthAt kyA? kacce phala ko pakAkara jhAr3a denA / karma kA vipAka hue binA, khicar3I kaccI ho to kyA karate haiM? vaise hI karma kacce hoM aura jAne kA samaya ho jAe to kyA kareMge? isalie phira use pakA

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AptavANI-6 dete haiN| aura una karmoM kI uddIraNA hotI hai / paraMtu puruSa hone ke bAda hI yaha puruSArtha ho sakatA hai / puruSArtha hone ke bAda itanA adhikAra hai use ! 229 uddIraNA se do lAbha hote haiM / eka to uddIraNA karane ke lie Apako AtmasvarUpa honA par3atA hai / aura dUsarA, karmoM kI uddIraNA hotI hai ! AtmasvarUpa kaba ho sakate haiM? jaba sAmAyika aura kAyotsarga donoM ho jAe~, taba AtmasvarUpa ho sakate haiN| apane yahA~ to sirpha sAmAyika se hI AtmasvarUpa ho jAte haiM, usase uddIraNA ho jAtI hai| yaha 'akramajJAna' hai, isalie Apa AtmasvarUpa ho sakate haiM aura tabhI puruSArtha aura parAkrama ho pAtA hai I varnA jagat jise puruSArtha mAnatA hai, use ye dAdA kahate haiM ki, 'usake bAre meM to z2arA soco|' yaha nIma patte - patte meM kar3avA hotA hai, DAlI-DAlI meM kar3avA hotA hai, usameM nIma kA kyA puruSArtha ? vaise hI yaha tapa, tyAga karate haiM, usameM usakA kyA puruSArtha ? khuda hai laTTU, vaha uddIraNA karane kaise baiTha gayA? puruSa hue nahIM haiM, isalie laTTU kahA hai| paraMtu laTTU kA aura uddIraNA kA, donoM kA mela kisa taraha baiThegA? nikAcita karma to hamezA kar3ave lagate haiM / mIThA nikAcita karma ho paraMtu jaba vaha Aqhira meM ukatAkara kar3avA lage, taba bhAna hotA hai ki yaha yahA~ se aba haTe to acchA ! nikAcita karma do prakAra ke hote haiM : eka kar3avA aura dUsarA mIThA / mIThe karma bhI yadi bahuta Ae~, taba pha~sa jAte haiM | atizaya AiskrIma deM to Apa kitanI khAoge ? aMta meM usase bhI ukatA jAoge na? aura kar3ave meM to bahuta hI ukatA jAte haiM / usameM to kucha pUchane ko rahA hI nahIM na! lekina bhoge binA cArA hI nahIM / nikAcita karma arthAt jo bhugatane hI pdd'eN| aura bAkI saba karma aise haiM jo khatma ho sakeM / jise uddIraNA kahate haiM, use tapa kaheM to cala

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230 AptavANI-6 sakatA hai| vaha tapa bhI naimittika tapa hai| yadi vaha khuda kara kara sakatA, taba to vaha kartA khlaataa| arthAt vaha naimittika tapa hai| yAnI ki udaya meM tapa Ae to ve karma khatma ho jAte haiM, varnA vaisA hotA nhiiN| vaha tapa karane jAe ki kala karU~gA, to vaha nahIM ho pAegA aura aise karate-karate arthI nikala jAegI! aura phira kisI ke kaMdhe para car3hakara jAnA par3atA hai| uddIraNA nahIM ho, to RNa cukAne AnA pdd'egaa| uddIraNA kA artha kyA ki jo vipAka nahIM hue hoM, aise karmoM kA vipAka karake udaya meM laanaa| jo carama zarIrI hoM, ve lA sakate haiN| yadi carama zarIrI ke karma adhika hoM, to vaha yaha uddIraNA kara sakatA hai| paraMtu vaha kaisA honA cAhie? sattAdhIza honA caahie| puruSArtha sahita honA caahie| puruSa hue bagaira sabhI laTU kahalAte haiN| nAmadhArI mAtra, laTU kahalAte haiN| isa laTU meM yahA~ se zvAsa aMdara gayA ki laTU ghUmA, phira usakI DorI khulatI jAtI hai| vaha hameM dikhatA bhI hai ki DorI khula rahI hai| isIlie to hamane pUre varlDa ko laTUchApa kahA hai| usake khulAse kI z2arUrata ho to kara deNge| hama jitane zabda bolate haiM, una sabhI kA khulAsA dene ke lie bolate haiN| ina dAdA ne jo jJAna dekhA hai, usa jJAna aura ajJAna ko, donoM ko bilkula alaga-alaga dekhA hai| puruSArtha udayAdhIna nahIM hotA, puruSArtha to jitanA karo utanA aapkaa| hamAre mahAtmA puruSa bane, unake bhItara niraMtara puruSArtha ho rahA hai| puruSa, puruSadharma meM A cukA hai aura isIlie prajJA cetAvanI detI hai! pUre jagat ko hama laTU kahate haiN| laTU kA khuda kA kyA puruSArtha? ye yahA~ se zvAsa aMdara gayA to laTU ghUmatA rahegA aura yadi zvAsa daba gayA to laTU gira jAegA! aura apane mahAtmA to puruSa bane haiM, isIlie unakA zvAsa nahIM cale aura jaba aMdara ghabarAhaTa hotI hai, taba phira khuda kI guphA meM cale jAte haiM ki 'calo, apanI 'sephasAiDa'vAlI jagaha meN|' arthAt khuda amarapada ke bhAnavAle haiM ye! parAkramabhAva praznakartA : 'cArja poinTa' ke alAvA vaha jo sarjaka zakti hai, vaha kyA hai? puruSArtha hai?

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AptavANI-6 231 dAdAzrI : sarjaka zakti yAnI hama kyA kahanA cAhate haiM ki sUryodaya kaba hotA hai ki jaba sAinTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDensa mila jAe~ taba udaya hotA hai| yaha ghar3I cAra bajAe, usakI ghar3I meM bhI cAra bajeM, muMbaI kI bar3I ghar3I meM bhI cAra baje aura yahA~ sUryanArAyaNa A jAe~ aisA nahIM hotaa| sUryanArAyaNa ko jaldabAjI ho phira bhI unase yahA~ AyA nahIM jA sakegA! unakA sUryodaya kaba hogA? jaba sabhI 'eviDensa' mila jAe~ge taba! arthAt jo udayakarma haiM, ve sarjaka zakti ke adhIna hai| sarjaka zakti, use hama 'cArja' kahate haiN| use puruSArtha nahIM khte| praznakartA : bhAva ko hI puruSArtha kahA jAtA hai na? apanA saccA bhAva jAnA, svabhAva ko guNoM se jAnA, vahI puruSArtha hai na? dAdAzrI : bhAvAbhAva ko hamane pUrA laTUchApa meM DAla diyA hai aura hameM to svabhAva-bhAva hai| bhAvAbhAva, vaha karma hai, aura svabhAva-bhAva meM jJAtA-dRSTA aura paramAnaMda hotA hai| apane mahAtmA svabhAva bhAva meM rahate haiM, isalie bhItara unheM AnaMda rahatA hI hai, paraMtu ve cakhate nhiiN| jaba use cakhane kA samaya AtA hai, taba ve gae hote haiM dUsare kahIM hoTala meM, isalie patA nahIM cltaa| praznakartA : yAnI mahAtmA use kisa lakSaNa se cakhate haiM? binA jAne cakhate haiM, vaha puruSArtha lakSaNa se yA udaya lakSaNa se? dAdAzrI : puruSArtha to unakA cala hI rahA hai, paraMtu parAkrama kI dRSTi se cakhate haiN| praznakartA : mahAtmAoM meM parAkrama khar3A nahIM huA hai| yAnI usakA artha yaha hai ki unako yathArtha puruSArtha nahIM hai| dAdAzrI : puruSArtha hai hI sabhI mahAtmAoM meM, paraMtu ve abhI taka parAkrama bhAva meM nahIM Ae haiN| kucha sAmAyika karake parAkrama meM Ate haiN| puruSa hone ke bAda puruSArtha hogA hI na! vaha to svAbhAvika rUpa se hotA hai| praznakartA : isameM koI niyama nahIM hai na? kaIbAra sAmAyika meM

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232 AptavANI-6 baiThe hote haiM, taba (AtmA meM) bilkula ekAkAra nahIM huA jAtA aura rAste meM acAnaka hI ekAkAra ho jAte haiM aura AnaMda-AnaMda ho jAtA hai| to vaha kisa prakAra se AyA? vaha udaya se AyA? dAdAzrI : yaha bhI udaya se AtA hai aura vaha bhI udaya se AtA hai| donoM udaya se hI Ate haiN| praznakartA : usakA artha yaha hai ki parAkrama bhAva bilkula alaga hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, parAkrama bhAva alaga hI hai| parAkrama meM khuda ko kucha bhI nahIM karanA hotaa| khuda kA bhAva, parAkrama bhAva utpanna hotA hai| isalie phira prajJA usa bhAva ke anusAra sabakucha kara detI hai| praznakartA : parAkrama bhAva arthAt jJAtA-dRSTA bhAva? dAdAzrI : parAkrama bhAva yAnI kyA? 'mujhe parAkrama bhAva meM AnA hai' aisA bhAva unheM nahIM hotaa| mUla jo bhAva hote haiM, yaha parAkrama bhAva usase alaga cIz2a hai| yaha 'elarTanesa' hai| mujhe 'elarTanesa' meM hI rahanA hai| aisA jise nakkI ho, usake lie phira prajJA sabhI vyavasthA kara detI hai| praznakartA : parAkrama bhAva kyA sTroMga nizcaya meM AtA hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, aura kyA, nizcaya apanA honA hI cAhie na? mujhe svabhAva meM hI rahanA hai| phira jo ho so| use phira kauna rokanevAlA hai? phira prajJAzakti usameM z2ora lgaaegii| usake bhItara ajJAzakti bhI apanA z2ora lagAtI hai| paraMtu aMta meM ajJAzakti hAra jAegI, kyoMki bhagavAna inake pakSa meM hai|

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[28] 'dekhanA' aura 'jAnanA' hai jahA~, paramAnaMda prakaTa hotA hai vahA~! praznakartA : zuddhAtmA kA lakSya niraMtara rahatA hai, phira bhI bahuta bAra mana 'Dipresa' ho jAtA hai, usakA kyA kAraNa hai? dAdAzrI : apanA jJAna to kyA kahatA hai ki 'caMdUbhAI' ko kyA ho rahA hai, vaha dekhate rho| dUsarA koI upAya hai hI nahIM na! adhika kacarA bharakara lAyA hai, vaisA hameM patA cala jAtA hai na? praznakartA : usa samaya jJeya-jJAtA kA saMbaMdha nahIM raha pAtA, aura 'isa mana-vacana-kAyA se maiM alaga hI hU~' aisA usa samaya nahIM raha paataa| dAdAzrI : vaha jJeya-jJAtA kA saMbaMdha nahIM rahe, to tujhe patA hI nahIM calegA ki caMdUbhAI kA yaha calA gayA hai! yaha patA kise calatA hai? isalie yaha bilkula judA rahatA hai tujhe! eka-eka minaTa kA patA calatA hai| praznakartA : paraMtu patA cala jAne ke bAda vaha baMda ho jAnA cAhie na? aura vApasa AtmA kI tarafa mur3a jAnA cAhie na? dAdAzrI : vaha mor3ane se mur3a jAe aisA nahIM hai| Apa kyA, mor3a lo aise ho? praznakartA : taba to dAdA, isa taraha 'mazInarI' ulTe rAste para calatI hI rahegI aura hameM use 'dekhate' hI rahanA hai sirpha? dAdAzrI : aura dUsarA kyA karanA hai? ulTA rAstA aura sIdhA rAstA donoM rAste hI haiM, unheM 'dekhate' hI rahanA hai|

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234 AptavANI-6 praznakartA : paraMtu ulTe rAste pUrA janma bekAra jAegA na? dAdAzrI : paraMtu usameM aise jhikajhika karo to kyA hogA? use 'dekhate rahanA' vahI puruSArtha hai| puruSArtha samajha meM nahIM Ane ke kAraNa Apa ulajha jAte ho| yaha to sirpha 'saphokezana' hI hai| praznakartA : aMta meM phira ukatA jAte haiM ki yaha saba kyA ho rahA hai? dAdAzrI : ukatAhaTa ho to caMdUbhAI ko hogii| Apako' thor3e hI hotI hai? aura 'Apako' caMdUbhAI ko DA~TanA cAhie aura usase zAma ko pratikramaNa karavAnA caahie| AtmA kA svabhAva aisA hai ki itanA sA bhI jAne bagaira rahegA nhiiN| kyA-kyA huA, vaha sArA hI yaha jAnatA hai! ye bAharavAle sabhI koI zikAyata karane kyoM nahIM Ate ki mujhe Aja aisA ho rahA hai, vaisA ho rahA hai? praznakartA : unheM samAdhi rahatI hogI? dAdAzrI : AtmA prakaTa hai hI nahIM, vahA~ phira samAdhi kisa taraha ho sakatI hai? ahaMkAra hI kAma karatA rahatA ho, vahA~ para AtmA prakaTa hI nahIM hai| Apako to AtmA prakaTa ho gayA hai! isalie yaha saba patA calatA hai| nahIM to aura koI kyoM aisA nahIM bolatA? praznakartA : phira khuda kA paramAnaMda, khuda kA anaMta sukha, vaha calA nahIM jAnA cAhie na? dAdAzrI : paraMtu ye aMtarAya Ate haiM, isalie sukha calA jAtA hai| praznakartA : kauna se aMtarAya, dAdA? dAdAzrI : yaha vyApAra ke lie tU jAtA hai, vahA~ caMdUbhAI kyA-kyA karate haiM, use 'tU' acchI taraha 'dekhatA' nahIM hai, isalie saba TUTa jAtA hai| sabhI yadi paddhatipUrvaka ho rahA ho to kucha bhI nahIM hogaa| praznakartA : 'dekhatA' nahIM arthAt kyA?

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AptavANI-6 235 dAdAzrI : tU use 'jAnatA' to hai paraMtu 'dekhatA' nahIM hai na! praznakartA : hama jAneM aura dekheM to kyA ho jAegA phira? dAdAzrI : 'jAnanA' aura 'dekhanA', ve donoM eka sAtha hote haiM, taba paramAnaMda hotA hai| praznakartA : 'jAnanA' aura 'dekhanA', vaha kisa prakAra se hotA hai? dAdAzrI : tujhe pUre caMdUbhAI dikheN| 'caMdUbhAI kyA kara rahe haiM' vaha sabhIkucha dikhegaa| caMdUbhAI cAya pI rahe hoM to dikhegA, dUdha pI rahe hoM to dikhegA, ro rahe hoM to dikhegaa| gussA ho rahe hoM to vaha bhI dikhegA, cir3ha rahe hoM to vaha bhI dikhegA, nahIM dikhegA? AtmA sabhIkucha dekha sakatA hai| yaha to 'jAnanA' aura 'dekhanA', donoM sAtha meM nahIM hotA hai, isalie tujhe paramAnaMda utpanna nahIM hotaa| praznakartA : 'jAnanA' aura 'dekhanA', ve donoM kisa taraha ho sakatA hai? dAdAzrI : usakA hama abhyAsa kareM, to hogaa| hara eka cIz2a meM upayoga rakheM, jaldabAz2I yA dhAMdhalI nahIM kareM, zAyada kabhI gADI meM caDhate samaya bhIr3a ho to bhUlacUka ho jAe aura 'dekhanA' raha jAe, to use 'leTa go' kara leNge| paraMtu bAkI saba jagaha to raha sakatA hai na? paramAtmayoga kI prApti praznakartA : dAdA, ApakA 'jJAna' prApta karane ke bAda mAyA parezAna karatI hai, use nikAla dIjie na? __ dAdAzrI : 'svarUpa kA jJAna' prApta karane ke bAda mAyA kabhI bhI AtI hI nhiiN| mAyA phira khar3I hI nahIM rahatI, paraMtu Apa to use bulAte ho na, 'mausI, yahA~ aaie| mausI, yahA~ Aie!' praznakartA : Apa mAyA ko mArie na? dAdAzrI : maiM mArane AU~ yA Apako mAranA hai? mujhe to ApakA

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236 AptavANI-6 thor3I-bahuta hI dhyAna rakhanA hai| bAkI sArA Apako sa~bhAlanA hai| aba Apa puruSa ho gae aura puruSa hone ke bAda Apa puruSArtha meM Ae ho| puruSa hone ke bAda mAyA Ae hI kaise? yadi eka ghaMTe kA yoga zurU kiyA ho to jagat hila uThe, aisA to maiMne Apako yoga diyA hai! pUrA brahmAMDa hila uThe, aisA yoga maiMne Apako diyA hai! paraMtu aise yoga kA Apa upayoga nahIM karo to kyA hogA? praznakartA : brahmAMDa nahIM hilatA, paraMtu maiM hila jAtA huuN| dAdAzrI : yaha yoga hAtha meM A jAe to koI chor3egA nhiiN| eka ghaMTe meM to kucha kA kucha ur3Akara rakha de! praznakartA : Aja taka mujhe aisA thA ki dAdA mujhe kabhI khuda hI kaheMge, isalie maiM kucha kahatA hI nahIM thaa| dAdAzrI : dAdAjI sabhI kucha karate haiM, paraMtu vaha to koI bilkula hI kamaz2ora par3a gayA ho to vahA~ para rakSaNa rakha denA par3atA hai| varnA aise to aMta hI nahIM AegA na! dAdA ko bahuta kAma karanA hotA hai| dAdA ko pUre dina yoga karanA hotA hai| amarIkA meM ghUmanA par3atA hai, iMglainDa meM ghUmanA par3atA hai, dina-rAta ghUmanA par3atA hai| pUre varlDa para yoga cala rahA hai| pUre varlDa meM zAMti honI caahie| dharma kI bAta to jAne do, paraMtu zAMti to honI caahie| praznakartA : hamArA to jahA~ nahIM karanA hai, vahA~ hotA hai aura jo karanA hai, vaha nahIM ho paataa| dAdAzrI : vahIM para puruSArtha hai, puruSa banane ke bAda phira puruSArtha kyoM nahIM ho pAtA? aba dizAmUr3ha nahIM honA hai| aba to eka hI dizA, basa puruSArtha, puruSArtha aura puruSArtha! anaMtazaktiyA~ vyakta ho jAe~, aisA yaha yoga diyA hai| isalie z2oradAra puruSArtha karo ghara jAkara! dUsare sabhI maccharoM se kaheM ki 'geTa AuTa! noTa alAuDa!'

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AptavANI-6 237 pUrA brahmAMDa hila jAe, aisI zakti bhItara bharI par3I hai| maiMne khuda dekhI hai, tabhI to maiMne anAvRtta kiyA! paraMtu Apa kina lAlacoM meM par3a gae ho? kisalie? pUrA brahmAMDa sAmane A jAe, phira bhI usakA lAlaca kyoM ho? isalie acchI taraha yoga jamAo, rAta aura dina! aba nIMda kaise Ae? aba pUrA-pUrA yoga kara lo| dasa lAkha varSoM meM yaha sahajAsahaja yoga prApta huA hai, bIvI-baccoM, kapar3e-latte sahita ! bAra-bAra aisA yoga prApta ho sake, aisA nahIM hai| yaha to paramAtmayoga hai! yaha koI aisA-vaisA yoga nahIM hai! bahuta hI jAgRti kI z2arUrata hai, saMpUrNa jAgRti! jAgRti ke Upara jAgRti ki jo aMtima prakAra kI jAgRti hai, vaha apane yahA~ para hai ! jagat jahA~ jagatA hai, vahA~ hameM sote rahanA caahie| hama jahA~ para jage haiM, vahA~ para jagat soyA huA hI hai| kevalajJAna arthAt saMpUrNa jAgRti! koI kamI na rahe, aisI jAgRti ! basa, jAgRti kI hI z2arUrata hai| jitanI jAgRti bar3hI utanA kevalajJAna ke naz2adIka aayaa| jAgRti meM khuda ke sabhI doSa dikhate haiM, paraMtu yadi khuda niSpakSapAtI ho cukA ho, taba! khuda zuddhAtmA ho gayA, yAnI niSpakSapAtI ho gyaa| 'maiM caMdabhAI hU~' vahA~ para pakSapAta hai| khuda vakIla, khuda jaja aura khuda hI abhiyukt| phira jajamenTa kaisA AegA? praznakartA : maiMne to aisA nizcita kiyA huA hai ki mujhe yaha saba ciMtA karane kI kyA z2arUrata hai? dAdA kI chatrachAyA hai, phira kyA? dAdAzrI : isase to saba kaSAya ghusa jAe~ge! ve samajheMge ki yahA~ para yaha khokhalA hai! Apako puruSa banAyA hai ab| puruSa nahIM banAyA ho, taba taka dAdA haiN| aba to puruSArtha Apake hAtha meM rakha diyA hai| dAdA kabhI hI, ar3acana ke samaya hAz2ira hote haiM, paraMtu roz2a-roz2a hAz2ira nahIM hote| yaha paramAtmayoga Apako diyA hai| aba phira se cakanA mt| kisI janma meM nahIM mile, aisA hai yh| isa janma meM hI huA hai yaha ! yaha gyArahavA~ Azcarya hai isa kAla kA! yAnI ki yoga prApta ho gayA hai| yaha to puNya se Apako yoga mila gayA hai, jisase Upara taka dekha Ae ho, kucha hada taka kA to sabhI kucha dekha liyA hai Apane aura Apake lakSya meM hai na ki kyA kyA dekhA hai Apane?

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238 AptavANI-6 praznakartA : hA~, hai| dAdAzrI : aura yaha bhaTThI to thI hI na? kahA~ nahIM thI? yaha jUThana to hai hI na? praznakartA : zuddhAtmA hone ke bAda use dabAva kyoM ghera lete hoMge? dAdAzrI : yaha jo zuddhAtmA prApta huA hai, vaha Apake sabhI karmoM ke nikAla karane ke bAda prApta ho to kucha bhI aMdara paiThegA nhiiN| yaha to Apake binA khapAe hue karma abhI maujUda hai aura yaha prApta ho gayA hai| maiM kyA kahatA hU~ ki aisA prApta hone ke bAda ina karmoM kA nikAla kara do jhttptt| yaha saba udhAra cukA do, nahIM to AtmA, zuddhAtmA prApta hue binA udhAra cuka sake aisA koI rAstA thA hI nahIM, yAnI yaha to divAliyA meM se sAhUkAra honA hai, yaha udhAra bahuta sArA hai| aura aba yadi bhaTaka gae na, to 81,000 varSoM taka bhttkeNge| isalie hama abhI uThA lete haiM, to jisa-jisako yaha yoga prApta ho jAe, ve saba loga kAma nikAla leM, nahIM to slipa hone kA kAla hai, phisalanevAlA kAla hai| Apake udhAra apAra hai, unake bIca Apako jAgRta kara diyaa| Apako jAgRti baratatI hai yA nahIM? praznakartA : baratatI hai| dAdAzrI : usa jAgRti ke uccatama zikhara para baiThakara dekhanA cAhie, aMdara kucha bhI hilA ho to patA cala jAegA ki aMdara kyA hilA? aura vaha apane hita meM hai yA apanA virodhI hai, vaha turaMta samajha jAnA caahie| pUrA jagat khulI A~khoM se so rahA hai, kyoMki vaha kisameM jAgRta hai? paisoM meM, viSaya meM jAgRta hai| pUrA jagat tAla baiThA-baiThAkara thaka gayA hai, kucha bhI nahIM ho paayaa| isalie maiM Apako kyA kahatA hU~ ki sabakucha 'vyavasthita' hai, yAnI ki ApakA hisAba hai| use koI badala nahIM sktaa| isIlie mela baiThAne mata jaanaa| Apa apanA kAma karate rho| 'vyavasthita' Apako sabhI taraha kI sahAyatA detA rhegaa|

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AptavANI-6 239 ___aba mAyA dUra rahanI caahie| mAyA ghusanI nahIM caahie| yaha to choTI-choTI cIjeM dekara, Apako ajagara kI taraha nigala jAtI hai| jaba koI bar3I ghaTanA ho jAe, tabhI Apa zuddhAtmA meM jAte ho! yAnI sabhI cIz2oM meM jAgRtI rahanI caahie| isameM bhUla ho jAe, to vaha nahIM clegaa| praznakartA : paraMtu dAdA, phira se vaha mArga se bhaTaka nahIM jAnA cAhie na? dAdAzrI : bhaTaka nahIM jAnA cAhie, paraMtu mAyA abhI taka use parezAna karatI hai| mAyA kaba taka parezAna karatI hai? tIna varSoM tk| aba ye krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobharUpI mAyA tIna varSa taka aMDaragrAunDa raha sake vaisA hai, aura bhUkhI raha sake aisA hai| hamane usake hAtha kI sattA khatma karake Apake hAtha meM sauMpa dI, isIlie ve saba aMDaragrAunDa cale gae haiN| aba ve phira se vApasa Ane kI taiyAriyA~ karate rheNge| ataH yadi tIna varSoM taka yaha yoga rahe, dAdA se dUra nahIM ho to ve vApasa nahIM paiTheMge, cale jaaeNge| phira 'sephasAiDa' ho jAegI! phira to hamArI AjJA meM AsAnI se rahA jA skegaa| hama jAnate haiM ki aisA kisalie hotA hai, isalie pahale se hI saceta rahane ko kahate haiN| praznakartA : daivIzakti aura AsurIzakti, donoM hamezA lar3ate hI haiM? dAdAzrI : hA~, ve lar3ate hI haiN| paraMtu usameM Apako kRSNa kI taraha kAma lenA cAhie ki 'maiM tere pakSa meM huuN|' praznakartA : Apa hameM sudarzana de dIjie na! dAdAzrI : sudarzana Apako diyA huA hI hai| eka u~galI kA nahIM paraMtu dasoM u~galiyoM kA diyA huA hai| to sabhIkucha kATakara eka ghaMTe meM to pUrA kauravavaMza nAza kara de aisA hai! mUla puruSa kI mahattA praznakartA : kisI yogya vyakti ko Apa apanI zaktiyA~ dekara jAe~ge na?

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240 AptavANI-6 dAdAzrI : paraMtu usake AdhAra para hameM kyA baiThe rahanA hai? ve dekara jAe~, usake bajAya to jaba taka hama haiM taba taka kAma nikAla lo na! bAda meM to vArisa 'inTelijenziyA' hote haiN| ve mUla bAta ko Age-pIche kara dete haiM! isalie jaba mUla puruSa hoM taba unase kAma nikAla lenA cAhie aura usake lie saMsAra ko eka ora rakha denA cAhie! aisA 'riyala' kabhI hI hotA hai, vahA~ para saMpUrNa pada prApta hotA hai| vahA~ para saccI Az2AdI milatI hai| bhagavAna bhI UparI nahIM, vaisI Az2AdI prApta hotI hai| puruSa hone ke bAda kA puruSArtha arthAt, eka bAra dahAr3e to kitane hI zera aura zeraniyA~ bhAga jaaeN| paraMtu ye to pille bhI mu~ha cATa jAte haiM! hama jJAna dete haiM, phira vAstavikatA opana hotI haiN| phira khuda puruSa bana jAtA hai| phira Apako 'maiM paramAtmA hU~' aisA bhAna hotA hai| hama pApa bhasmIbhUta karavA dete haiM, divyacakSu dete haiM, isalie phira sabhI meM paramAtmA dikhate haiM! arthAt aisA pada dene ke bAda, paramAtmayoga dene ke bAda Apako pA~ca AjJA dete haiN| yAnI Apane paramAtmapada, paramAtmasukha saba dekhA huA hai| vaha Apake lakSya meM hai, taba taka Apa vApasa phira asala sTeja para A jaaoge| ataH phira se aisA yoga jamA lo, saMsAra kA jo honA ho, vaha ho| 'vyavasthita' ke tAbe meM sabakucha sauMpa denA hai, aura vartamAna yoga meM hI rhnaa| bhaviSya to 'vyavasthita' ke tAbe meM hai| sthUla pAra karo, sUkSmatama meM praveza karo praznakartA : ApakI gairahAz2irI meM ekAgratA idhara-udhara ho jAtI hai, taba kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : jaba taka dAdA khuda hote haiM, taba taka ve sthUla haiN| sthUla meM se sUkSma meM jAnA caahie| sthUla to milA, paraMtu aba sUkSma meM jAnA cAhie aura dAdA hAz2ira nahIM hoM taba to sUkSma kA hI prayoga zurU kara denA cAhie

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AptavANI-6 241 aura sUkSmatara aura sUkSmatama meM jAne kA prayoga karanA caahie| aura AgepIche to hotA hI nahIM hai| roz2a-roz2a yaha rikaoNrDa bajAnI, vaha kyA acchA kahalAtA hai? __yaha jo paramAtmayoga maiMne Apako diyA hai usa yoga meM, jitanA ho sake utane usa yoga meM hI rho| Apa khuda paramAtmA bano, aisA yoga diyA hai! bIca meM koI roka nahIM sakegA aura saMsAra kI sArI rAmAyaNa pUrI hogI, aThAraha vyUha racanA kA yuddha jIta jAe~ge, kyoMki zuddhAtmA hI kRSNa haiM aura ve hI jitAnevAle haiN| hamArI AjJA, vahI 'hama' haiM, 'khuda' hI haiN| hamArI pA~ca AjJA meM rahane kA prayatna kro| sAmane Ae haiM mokSasvarUpa karor3oM avatAroM meM bhI prakaTa nahIM ho, vaise ye eksaparTa mile haiM, to yahA~ para ApakA kAma ho jAe, aisA hai| yaha to 'maiM' kevalajJAna meM nApAsa huA, isalie Apake kAma AyA, moniTara ke taura para! ___ yaha ApakA hI Apako de rahA huuN| jJAna to ApakA hI hai| merA jJAna nahIM hai| maiM to nimitta hU~ bIca meN| yaha ApakA 'khuda kA' hI jJAna hai| abhI yaha ThaMDaka bar3ha rahI hai, vaha bhI ApakI hI hai| jAgRti bar3hatI jAegI, vaha bhI ApakI khuda kI hI hai| yaha merI dI huI jAgRti nahIM hai| yaha saba ApakA khuda kA hI hai! yaha thyorI oNpha ebsolyUTiz2ama hai! yaha samajha meM AtA hai Apako, nahIM samajha meM Ae to nA kaha do| hameM jaldI nahIM hai| hama saba to samajhane ke lie baiThe haiN| hama kisI 'thyorI' ko 'aDopTa' karane ke lie nahIM baiThe haiN| yaha thyorI aisI nahIM hai ki jo Apako aDopTa karavAnI ho! 'saccI bAta' 'samajha' meM A jAe, vahI apanI thyorI! jaya saccidAnaMda

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zAtA mUla gujarAtI zabdoM ke samAnArthI zabda : sukha-pariNAma azAtA : duHkha-pariNAma pudgala : jo pUraNa aura galana hotA hai pUraNa-galana : cArja honA-DiscArja honA lAgaNI : bhAvukatAvAlA prema, lagAva nikAla : nipaTArA UparI : baoNsa, variSTha mAlika upAdhi : bAhara se AnevAle du:kha rAjIpA : gurujanoM kI kRpA aura prasannatA ajaMpA : becainI, azAMti, ghabarAhaTa dubhanA : Ahata honA nirjarA : Atmapradeza meM se karmoM kA alaga honA cIkaNI phAila : gAr3ha RNAnubaMdhavAle vyakti athavA saMyoga abaMdha : baMdhana rahita gAravarasa : saMsArI sukha kI ThaMDaka meM par3e rahane kI icchA guMThANe :48 minaTsa vaLagaNa : balA, pAza, baMdhana cIkaNI : gAr3ha Ar3AI : ahaMkAra kA Ter3hApana : ulAhanA aTakaNa : jo baMdhanarUpa ho jAe, Age nahIM bar3hane de taMtIlI : tIkhI, cubhanevAlI uddIraNA : bhaviSya meM phala denevAle karmoM ko samaya se pahale jagAkara vartamAna meM khapAnA AmaLe car3hanA : vicAroM kA bavaMDara uThanA, bahuta vicAra Ane se abhAva honA galagaliyA : vRttiyoM ko gudagudI honA ThapakA

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(dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezana ke dvArA prakAzita pustakeM) hindI 1. jJAnI puruSa kI pahacAna 23. prema 2. sarva duHkhoM se mukti 24. ahiMsA 3. karma kA siddhAMta 25. pratikramaNa 4. Atmabodha 26. pApa-puNya 5. aMta:karaNa kA svarUpa 27. karma kA vijJAna 6. jagata kartA kauna ? 28. camatkAra 7. bhugate usI kI bhUla 29. vANI, vyavahAra meM... 8. eDajasTa evarIvheyara 30. paisoM kA vyavahAra 9. TakarAva TAlie 31. pati-patnI kA divya vyavahAra 10. huA so nyAya 32. mAtA-pitA aura baccoM kA 11. ciMtA vyavahAra 12. krodha 33. samajha se prApta brahmacarya 13. maiM kauna hU~? 34. nijadoSa darzana se... nirdoSa 14. vartamAna tIrthakara zrI sImaMdhara svAmI 35. kleza rahita jIvana 15. mAnava dharma 36. guru-ziSya 16. sevA-paropakAra 37. AptavANI - 1 17. trimaMtra 38. AptavANI - 3 18. bhAvanA se sudhare janmojanma 39. AptavANI - 4 19. dAna 40. AptavANI - 5 20. mRtyu samaya, pahale aura pazcAt 41. AptavANI - 6 21. dAdA bhagavAna kauna ? 42. AptavANI - 8 22. satya-asatya ke rahasya * dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezana ke dvArA gujarAtI bhASA meM bhI 55 pustakeM prakAzita huI hai| vebasAiTa www.dadabhagwan.org para se bhI Apa ye sabhI pustakeM prApta kara sakate haiN| * dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezana ke dvArA hara mahIne hindI, gujarAtI tathA aMgrejI bhASA meM "dAdAvANI" maigez2Ina prakAzita hotA hai| or mo 3 u

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AptavANI, tamAma dharmoM kA sAra! AptavANI kI khyAti dinoMdina bahuta bddh'egii| pUre jagata ke khulAse isa meM se mileNge|sbhii dharma ina meM se prApti kareMge, yAnI ina AptavANiyoM meM se ye hI loga tatva nikAla leMge, isI kI z2arurata hai| AptavANI par3hakara to kitane hI loga kahate haiM ki hameM aura koI dhArmika pustaka par3hane kI jarurata nahIM pdd'egii| yAnI ina AptavANiyoM se hI calegA saba kuch|apnii pustakeM logoM ko bahuta helpa kreNgii| isalie sabhI se kahA hai ki eka bAra pustakeM chapavA do|chp gaI na, aba una para se loga aura chApeMge, paraMtu aba yaha kho nahI jaaegaa| ye bAteM khoeMgI nahIM ab| -dAdAzrI AtmavijJAnI 'e. ema. paTela' ke bhItara prakaTa hue dAdA bhagavAnanA asIma jaya jayakAra ho SUN978-93-82125 19789382128356 RTOPrinted intrda