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[10] When Conflicts Arise
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conflict about bumping into a pole, thereafter of subtle (sookshma), subtler (sookshmatar) and the subtlest (sookshmatam) forms of conflict. What is a subtle (sookshma) conflict?
Dadashri: The conflict that you have with your father is subtle conflict.
Questioner: Like what? Dadashri: Do you hit each other? Questioner: No.
Dadashri: For you who have taken this Gnan of the Self, to see mistakes in others is an example of subtler conflict.
Questioner: So when I look at mistakes of someone else, it is subtler conflict?
Dadashri: No, not like that! You have arrived at a decision that people are flawless (nirdosh): they are without mistakes but, despite this, if you happen to see mistakes in someone, that is subtler conflict. You should be able to see those mistakes of yours (You should be able to see that you (file one) are seeing mistakes) because he is a pure Self and the mistake is separate.
Questioner: Who is the one that sees the mistake?
Dadashri: The seer of the mistake ("Chandulal, the intellect).
Questioner: But that is not the mind seeing the mistake. That phenomenon is not in the mental layer.
Dadashri: Whatever layer it is in; it sees the mistake.
Questioner: So is all that the mental conflict that we have talked about?
Dadashri: That is subtle conflict.
Questioner: Does subtle mean through the mind? Do verbal conflicts also come under subtle?
Dadashri: No, verbal conflict falls under gross conflict. Those the other person is not aware of those the other person cannot see, are subtle conflict.
Questioner: How can we avoid such subtle conflict?
Dadashri: First, you should tackle the gross conflict, then the subtle, then the subtler and finally the subtlest conflict.
Questioner: What is an example of a subtler (sookshmatar) conflict?
Dadashri: Sookshmatar conflict applies only to those who are Self-realized. If you slap somebody and this other person here remains in his awareness as being the pure Soul, and is aware that the slap is being given by vyavasthit, he sees all that. But despite this, if he happens to see even a slightest mistake in you, then that would be considered subtler conflict. (196)
Dadashri: All that belongs to subtle (sookshma) conflict. Questioner: So what is the difference between the two? Dadashri: This all goes beyond the realm of the mind. Questioner: The mental conflict and those mistakes... Dadashri: They are not mental; they are not of the mind.
Questioner: Does that mean when there is a subtler conflict occurring, a subtle conflict is also present?
Dadashri: You do not have to be concerned about that. Subtle is different. The subtler is different. The subtler is the ultimate stage.
Questioner: Please explain that to me again. I did not understand it completely.
