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[25] Understanding the Principles of Pratikraman
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from the relative?
Dadashri: It comes from the real. It is the energy arising from the real. There are two kinds of energies. One arising from the real is pragnya. And that arising from the relative is called agnya. Agnya will not allow one to get out of the worldly life (sansar) and pragnya will not let you go until You attain moksha. During the time when the body is discarded and one's moksha is ready, at that time pragnya shakti becomes one with the Self It is not a separate energy.
Questioner: So then the ego comes under the relative, does it not?
Dadashri: Everything goes only into the relative.
Questioner: Then, Dada, the real and the relative are separate so why did we have to be in the middle? What is the need for us to do pratik raman? Why do we have to interfere with the relative?
will they go away or do I have to do pratikraman?
Dadashri: Then the mistakes do not remain, do they? However, one is not aware and does not know at the time of the mistake. He does not remain the Knower-Seer (GnataDrashta). There is Nothing to be Done When One is
the Knower-Seer One is the Knower-Seer (Gnata-Drashta) only if he has awakened awareness (jagruti) - and pratikraman occurs only with such awareness. Now You do not have to do the pratikraman. The one who is the Knower-Seer does not do' anything. The one who does' anything, he cannot be the KnowerSeer. Hence, 'Chandubhai' has to do the pratikraman. The one who does the atikraman has to be told to do pratikraman.
Tell the one who has the attacking nature to do pratikraman. When You tell 'Chandubhai' to do pratikraman, it can occur only if you are a Shuddhatma.
Ego in Atikraman and Pratikraman Questioner: Who does the pratikraman? (464) Dadashri: The one who does the atikraman. Questioner: But who does the atikraman? Dadashri: The ego does arikraman.
Questioner: If the ego does atikraman, then does the ego have to do pratikraman?
Dadashri: Yes, even the pratikraman has to be done by the ego. But who does the cautioning? It is pragnya shakti (the liberating energy of the Self). Pragnya says, 'Why did you do atikraman? So do pratikraman.'
Questioner: So does pragnya come from the real or
Dadashri: There is no need to interfere with the relative. But when someone gets hurt, You have to tell 'Chandubhai (the relative self), 'Why did you hurt him? Now do pratikraman for that.' That is it; wash it off. Wash off the stain that occurs. You also have to keep the relative' cloth clean.
Questioner: Dada, the one causing the pain, is it the real that does it?
Dadashri: The Real' does not do anything. Everything is in the relative plane. Even the pain is experienced by the relative; it does not touch the real at all.
Who Experiences the Pain? Questioner: When the other person gets hurt, is it his ego that experiences the pain and hurt?
Dadashri: Yes. It is the ego that experiences the pain (dukh).
