Book Title: Pratikramana Full Version
Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Mahavideh Foundation

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________________ [25] Understanding the Principles of Pratikraman 519 520 Pratikraman pratikraman? Dadashri: They become pure by remaining as the Knower-Seer. Questioner: So then what occurs with pratikraman? atikraman has to do pratikraman. Questioner: So, does the entire charitra moha (discharging illusory effect) dissipate by simply 'seeing' it? Dadashri: They (non-Self subatomic particles) become pure because they are 'seen.' Your vision as the Self (atmadrashti) verily falls on it. Questioner: 'Chandubhai' is constantly doing atikraman, is he not? Dadashri: The one doing the arikraman has to do pratikraman. Questioner: In doing so, are we asking for the energy (shakti) from the other person's Shuddharma? Dadashri: That is simply the vyavahar (interaction of the non-Self complex; worldly interaction). There is no vyavaharnischay (relative-real) in pratikraman. (Pratikraman is done entirely by the non-Self complex; the Self is never involved in it). For the sake of humility (vinaya), You have to ask for the energy (shakti). Questioner: All the desires that occur are charitra moha, is it not? But what about the desire which is not fulfilled, and that for which proper prarikraman has not occurred? Dadashri: What I am saying is that one who continuously sees,' does not even need to do pratikraman. He does not have to do anything. Purification of Subatomic Particles by 'Knowing-Seeing' Questioner: Dada, in order to purify each and every parmanu (smallest particle of matter) of this body, do they become pure (shuddha) if I keep 'seeing' whatever occurs by remaining the Knower-Seer (Gnata-Drashta) or by doing Dadashri: What occurs in pratikraman is that if a major mistake has been made which hurt the other person, then You have to tell 'Chandubhai', 'Please do not do that, and since atikraman has been done, pratikraman is required.' There is no need to do pratikraman if arikraman has not occurred. Questioner: But do parmanus not become pure with pratikraman? Dadashri: No, pratikraman is done in order to become free. The parmanus do not become pure by doing pratikraman. They remain as they are. 'We have to 'see the 'Self" in all. "We' become free the moment 'we' see them. The non-Self complex (the pudgal) will make a claim, *You have become a Shuddhatma, but I will not attain moksha.' We' say, 'Why? What is the problem? I have become pure. I have realized the Self.' So then the pudgal will say, 'You will not go to moksha. How are you going to go until I let go of you?' So then we ask, 'Sir, what is your objection? The pudgal will say, 'You have spoilt us. We were in our nature. You have become pure, now you have to make us pure. So you make us the way we were to begin with so that we, too, become free! So that is why You have to see the pure, the shuddha. The world sees the impure (ashuddha), because they do it with the inner intent (bhaav) of 'I am the doer. Now the inner intent is, 'I am not the doer,' so they (pudgal parmanus) become free. Questioner: What occurs with pratikraman? What is the effect of pratikraman? You said that the subatomic particles

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