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others do not understand? If someone were to ask me, I would tell them. One lady actually did stop giving sermons and came to take Gnan. That mahasati (a nun in Jainism) said, 'I am giving two discourses a day. I feel like giving religious instructions. This I know is going to land me in hell. If I take Gnan from you, will I be able to give religious instructions freely?" I said, 'Yes, you can.' Then she took Gnan. The outcome for those who are on such religious paths and have taken Gnan has been very
Apratyakhyani.
Questioner: Now, the process of going from anantanubandhi into apratyakhyani, and then into the pratyakhyani... is samkit drashti (right vision) behind that process?
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Dadashri: It verily is the samkit vision. One continues to proceed forward because of the right vision (samkit drashti). The Living Ego Departs and the Dying Ego is
Left Behind
Veils of Ignorance Can Only Be Destroyed
with the Right Vision Questioner: When the Knower, who is established in the Self, has to face unfolding of his karma, does he not become controlled by those circumstances?
Dadashri: No, he is the Knower of the unfolding circumstance (udaya). When he remains the Knower (Gnata) of the unfolding karma, he is considered to be the Knower (Gnayak swabhav). And when he is not the Knower of the karma effect, he is under the control of those circumstances (udayavash).
Questioner: Dada, when one becomes the Knower once, will he ever be controlled by the circumstances?
Dadashri: He will come under control of circumstances. When the unfolding karmas are very heavy and sticky, then he will become controlled by them. That is why we have these pratyakhyan avaran kashays. I used to think a lot about them, "Oh, ho ho! What kind of kashay is this pratyakhyan avaran kashay?' I used to think a lot about them before I attained Gnan. Because what did people say? They said avirat kashays (never-ending kashays) means anantanubandhi, and then after that comes apratyakhyani. What are the kashays, for which no pratikraman and pratyakhyan has been done, called?
All of us in Akram Vignan do not have even a single one of these four kashays. We have become free from kashays. Man cannot become free from worries and there can never be a worry-free man in the Kramic path. Even a gnani of the Kramic path is not worry-free. He is blissful within but worried on the outside. He has worries and uncertainties in his worldly dealings about what the future holds. He is worried about the future. We do not have agrasocha (worries about the future). 'We' leave everything to vyavasthit. How long can anxiety remain? As long as the one who has anxiety is living. And for You, he is no longer alive, is he? Who becomes anxious?
Questioner: 'Chandulal.'
Dadashri: Yes, that means the ego is alive. There are two kinds of ego. One is the 'doer' of karma and the other is the *sufferer' of karma.
Questioner: Yes, and the ego as the 'doer' is gone.
Dadashri: As a 'doer', the ego is alive and as the sufferer', it is the dying ego. The dying ego cannot do anything else. And what can the living ego not do when pushed. Therefore, after Gnan Vidhi in Akram Vignan, the living one is gone and this dying one remains.
