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[19] The Problem of Compulsive Lying
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Pratikraman
Dadashri: You have brought with you that 'over-wiseness' (lying is beneficial) from the past life. That is why 'we' have never told you that you cannot tell a lie. Had 'wedone that, you would have taken heed. Have 'we' ever told you that you cannot lie?
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occurs, repent (prashchyataap) for it.
Now, even if you repent after telling lies, you will continue to tell lies because the effect of karma is inevitable. You have no choice but suffer it for sure. So when people leave your home, they will talk and make comments like, 'Why does an educated person like Chandulal have to lie? Does that suit him?' Hence you will have to suffer the fruit of that lying again, even if you repent. And if you stop that incoming 'water in the tank' in the first place, if the causes are stopped in the first place, then the effect of the cause and its effect will not be there.
So what are 'we' saying? You may end up telling a lie, but are you opposed to that lie by having the opinion, 'I should not say things like that? That shows that you do not like telling lies. When you do not have an opinion that you should tell lies, then Your responsibility ends.
Questioner: But what can one do if he has a habit of lying... become a compulsive liar?
Dadashri: He has to develop a simultaneous habit of doing pratikraman. And when he does pratikraman, then the responsibility is 'ours' (Dada's).'
So change your opinion! Lying is tantamount to killing one's self. To lie is the same as killing the self. That is what you have to decide. But at the same time, do not become obstinately attached to insisting on the truth.
Lying in Worldly Life What should the relative religion' (worldly interaction) be like? It should be that, 'If you have to lie, do so; but do pratikraman.
Questioner: I say every day that, 'It is wrong to lie and I did not want to lie,' but it still occurs. Why does it occur even when I do not want it to?
Questioner: Then, until I fall asleep, I keep doing pratikraman. Now, whenever I feel that I am doing something wrong, I have him, 'Chandubhai, do pratikraman.
Dadashri: You have to do pratikraman if you do something wrong, don't you?
Questioner: But what if we do not do anything wrong in the first place, in that time...
Dadashri: But that will not work. You have to withdraw Your interest from it and maintain that, 'This that is occurring is wrong. It should not be this way.' As long as you like it, you will derive a taste from it. And if you get to the point where you don't like it, then there is no problem. You want to eat, and if it is something that you do not really like, then there is no problem if you eat it.
After Entering Real Religion Questioner: At the time of doing wrong, should the inner intent (bhaav) be, 'I should not be doing this,' or should I remain as the Knower-Seer (Gnata-Drashta)?
Dadashri: You have been told to remain the KnowerSeer and 'do (make 'Chandulal' do pratikraman, have you not?
Questioner: But such bhaav (to lie) should not occur, should it?
Dadashri: It is not that bhaav should not occur: you should give 'Chandulal' the awareness, 'Do prarikraman. Why
