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[12] Defeating Addictions with Gnan
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During Physical Ailments
Questioner: I do pratikraman when I hurt someone, but when I am suffering from some physical ailments, do I have to do pratikraman for that?
Dadashri: 'You' have to continue 'seeing' it. You also have to 'see' the one becoming engrossed in the physical pain. You have to continue to suffer it (bhogavavanoo) and continue to 'see' (jovanoo) the suffering. Veda means to 'know.' Veda means to suffer. The Gnanis are in the state starting from suffering (bhogavavanoo) to the state of 'Knowing' (janavoo).
Questioner: When the pain is intense, the non-Self complex (pudgal) becomes very uncomfortable.
Dadashri: Yes. Every one will notice that, but you have to make sure that you do not hurt anyone. Sometimes, if you say something that hurts the other person, then You have to tell 'Chandubhai' to do the pratikraman.
Questioner: That pratikraman is done properly. But during any physical pain, the mind goes through a lot of changes in bhaavs (inner intents). I can say that there is artadhyan and raudradhyan during that time.
Dadashri: This Gnan is such that it will never cause artadhyan or raudradhyan. But whatever artadhyan or raudradhyan that do occur, occur on the external part, and so it truly does not touch You. How do we define artadhyan and raudradhyan? It is when one has violent intent (himsak bhaav), but I do not see that in you.
Questioner: When ashata-vedaniya karma (karma which brings pain) unfolds, I have no choice but suffer them. While suffering it, if I even say, 'I am going to die, I am going to die. I have not done anything wrong, so why is this suffering unfolding for me?' Then what kind of intent should one keep
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during such situations?
Dadashri: 'I am separate from this suffering'; such affirmation will lighten the pain. And if you say, "This is happening to me,' then the load will feel heavier.
Questioner: The anxiety he experiences because of pain, is it with artadhyan or raudradhyan?
Dadashri: It is with artadhyan. It is not a question of dhyan. If one is in Gnan, then it is the non-Self that suffers the pain. You have to know who is suffering the pain and maintain awareness of who you are. Then You have to tell 'Chandubhai', 'Chandubhai, you go ahead and suffer it. Only you have to suffer it. You have to suffer the effect of your own causes.' If You can remain separate in all that, You will benefit from the separation. Otherwise, if you say, 'I am suffering a lot,' then you will suffer it many fold over.
Questioner: Everything you have said applies to the mahatmas. But the rest of the people who are suffering, do they suffer with artadhyan?
Dadashri: There is only artadhyan there; the result is pain and suffering. Such result of suffering as the self is artadhyan. Questioner: Then he continues to get irritated with others. That is raudradhyan, is it not?
Dadashri: Then there is raudradhyan. In this flawless (nirdosh) world, no one should appear to be a doshit (one at fault). The world is completely nirdosh. Therefore, whatever you see is due to the mistake in your own vision.
Questioner: Is vedaniya karma (karma that brings physical suffering) bound by atichar (transgression of code of conduct; doing something in excess) or atikraman?
Dadashri: It is bound by atikraman.
