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________________ dAdA bhagavAna kathita karmAce vijJAna
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________________ dAdA bhagavAna kathita karmAce vijJAna mULa gujarAtI saMkalana : DaoN. nIrUbahana amIna anuvAda : mahAtmAgaNa
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________________ prakAzaka : zrI ajita sI. paTela dAdA bhagavAna ArAdhanA TrasTa, dAdA darzana, 5, mamatApArka sosAyaTI, navagujarAta kaoNlejacyA mAge, usmAnapurA, ahamadAbAda - 380 014, gujarAta. phona - (079) 39830100 (c) All Rights reserved - Shri Deepakbhai Desai Trimandir, Simandhar City, Ahmedabad-Kalol Highway, Adalaj, Dist.-Gandhinagar-382421, Gujarat, India. No part of this book may be used or reproduced in any manner whatsoever without written permission from the holder of the copyrights. prathama AvRtti : 3,000 oNkTobara, 2015 bhAva mUlya : 'parama vinaya' ANi _ 'mI kAhIca jANata nAhI', hA bhAva! dravya mUlya : 25 rupaye mudraka : aMbA ophaseTa pArzvanAtha caimbarsa, navyA riz2arva ba~ke javaLa, usmAnapurA, ahamadAbAda-380 014. phona : (079) 27542964
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________________ trimaMtra vartamAnatIrthakarI . zrIsImaMdharasvAmI namo arihaMtANaM namo siddhANaM namo AyariyANaM namo uvajjhAyANaM namo loe savvasAhUNaM eso paMca namukkAro, savva pAvappaNAsaNo maMgalANaM ca savvesiM, paDhamaM havai maMgalam // 1 // OM namo bhagavate vAsudevAya // 2 // OM namaH zivAya // 3 // jaya saccidAnaMda
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________________ 1. bhogato tyAcI cUka 2. eDajesTa evharIvheara 3. je ghaDale toca nyAya 4. saMgharSa TALA dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezanacI prakAzita pustake marAThI 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. krodha 7. ciMtA 5. mI koNa Ahe ? jJAnI purUSa kI pahacAna sarva duHkhoM se mukti karma kA siddhAMta Atmabodha maiM kauna hU~? vartamAna tIrthaMkara zrI sImaMdhara svAmI bhUgate usI kI bhUla eDajasTa evarIvheyara TakarAva TAlie 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. huA so nyAya 11. ciMtA 12. krodha 13. pratikramaNa dAdA bhagavAna kauna ? 14. 15. paisoM kA vyavahAra 16. 17. jagata karttA kauna ? 18. trimaMtra 19. aMta:karaNa kA svarUpa bhAvanA se sudhare janmoMjanma 20. prema 8. pratikramaNa 9. bhAvanA sudhAre janmojanma 10. AI-vaDIla ANi mulAMcA vyavahAra 11. pati - patnIcA divya vyavahAra 12. karmAce vijJAna 13. pApa-puNya hindI 24. mAnava dharma 25. sevA-paropakAra 26. 27. 28. 29. 30. 31. 32. 33. 34. 35. 36. 37. 38. 39. 40. 41. 42. mRtyu samaya, pahale aura pazcAta nijadoSa darzana se... nirdoSa guru-ziSya pati-patnI kA divya vyavahAra kleza rahita jIvana ahiMsA satya-asatya ke rahasya camatkAra pApa-puNya vANI, vyavahAra meM.... karma kA vijJAna AptavANI - 1 AptavANI AptavANI 3 AptavANI - 4 AptavANI - 5 AptavANI - 6 AptavANI 7 AptavANI 8 - - 2 43. 44. 45. AptavANI - 13 (pUrvArdha) 46. samajha se prApta brahmacarya (uttarArdha/pUrvArdha) - 21. samajha prApta brahmacarya 22. mAtA-pitA aura baccoM kA vyavahAra 23. dAna dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezana dvAre gujarAtI, hindI ANi aMgrejI bhASeta suddhA barIca pustake prakAzita jhAlI Ahe. vebasAiTa www.dadabhagwan.org vara suddhA ApaNahI sagaLI pustake prApta karU zakatA. pratyeka mahinyAta hindI, gujarAtI ANi aMgrejI bhASeta dAdAvANI megejhIna prakAzita hota Ahe. 4
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________________ dAdA bhagavAna koNa? jUna 1958 saMdhyAkALacI aMdAje sahAcI veLa, surata sTezanavara aloTa gardI hotI. pleTaphArma naMbara tInacyA relvecyA bAkAvara basalele zrI. aMbAlAla muLajIbhAI paTela rupI dehamaMdirAta naisargika svarUpAta kityeka janmAMpAsUna vyakta hoNyAsAThI AtUra asalele 'dAdA bhagavAna' saMpUrNapaNe pragaTa jhAle ANi nisargAne sarjana kele adhyAtmAce adbhuta Azcarya! ekA tAsAta vizvadarzana lAbhale! ApaNa koNa? bhagavaMta koNa? jaga koNa cAlavata Ahe? karma mhaNaje kAya? muktI kazAlA mhaNatAta? ityAdI jagAtIla sarva AdhyAtmika praznAMce saMpUrNa nirAkaraNa kele! ANi jagAtIla sarva AdhyAtmika praznAMcA saMpUrNa ulagaDA jhAlA. azA prakAre nisargAne vizvAlA pradAna kele eka advitIya, saMpUrNa darzana ANi hyAce mAdhyama banale aMbAlAla mULajIbhAI paTela, je hote gujarAtace carotara jilhyAtIla bhAdaraNa gAvace pATIla, kaMTrAkTacA vyavasAya karaNAre ANi tarIhI pUrNa vItarAga puruSa. tyAMnA jJAna prApti jhAlI tyAca pramANe te phakta dona tAsAta itara mumukSunAM suddhA AtmajJAna prApti karUna deta hote, tyAMcyA siddha jhAlelyA adbhUta jJAna prayogAdvAre tyAlA akrama (kramavirahIta) mArga mhaNatAta. akrama mhaNaje kramAzivAyacA ANi krama mhaNaje pAyarI pAyarIne, kramAkramAne vara caDhAyace! akrama mhaNaje liphTa mArga! zaoNrTa kaTa!! te svataH pratyekAlA 'dAdA bhagavAna koNa?' hyAbaddalacI phoDa karUna detAnA mhaNAyace kI, "he disatAta te 'dAdA bhagavAna' nAhIta. he tara e.ema. paTela Aheta. AmhI jJAnIpuruSa Ahota ANi Ata pragaTa jhAle Aheta te dAdA bhagavAna Aheta. te caudalokace nAtha Aheta, te tumacyAta paNa Aheta, sarvAMmadhye Aheta! tumacyAta avyakta rupAta basalele Aheta ANi 'ithe' saMpUrNapaNe vyakta jhAlele Aheta! mI svataH paramezvara nAhI. mAjhyA Ata pragaTa jhAlele 'dAdA bhagavAna' tyAMnA mI paNa namaskAra karato." ____ vyApArAta dharma asAvA paraMtu dharmAta vyApAra nasAvA. hyA siddhAMtAne te saMpUrNa jIvana jagale. tyAMnI jIvanAta kadhIhI koNAkaDUnahI paise ghetale nAhIta, ulaTa svataHcyA vyavasAyAtUna jhAlelyA phAyadyAtUna bhaktAMnA yAtrA karavIta asata.
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________________ AtmajJAna prApticI pratyakSa lIMka mI tara, kAhI lokAMnA mAjhyA hAtUna siddhi prApta karUna deNAra Ahe. mAjhyA naMtara koNI tarI pAhije kI nAhI! naMtara lokAMnA mArga (dAkhaviNArA) havA kI nAhI? - dAdAzrI parama pUjya dAdAzrIMnA je jJAna prApta jhAle, te adbhuta AtmajJAna, tyAMnI deza-videza paribhramaNa karUna, dusar2yA lokAMnA suddhA dona tAsAta prApta karUna dile hote, tyAlA jJAnavidhi mhaNatAta. dAdAzrIMnI ApalyA jIvanakALAtaca pUjya DaoN. nIrUbahana amIna (nIrUmA)yAMnA AtmajJAna deNyAcI jJAnasiddhi pradAna kelI hotI. dAdAzrIMcyA dehavilaya pazcAt nIrUmA AtAparyaMta mumukSujanAMnA satsaMga ANi AtmajJAnAcI prApti, nimittabhAvAne karata hotyA. tyAcabarobara pUjya dIpakabhAInAMhI dAdAzrIMnI satsaMga karaNyAcI siddhi pradAna kelI hotI. pUjya nIrUmAMcyA upasthitItaca tyAMcyA AzIrvAdAne pUjya dIpakabhAI deza-videzAta kitItarI ThikANI jAUna mumudhuMnA AtmajJAna prApti karUna deta hote, je pUjya nIrUmAMcyA dehavilaya pazcAt Aja paNa cAlU Ahe. hyA AtmajJAna prApti naMtara hajAro mumukSu saMsArAta rAhUna, sarva jabAbadAr2yA sAMbhALUna suddhA mukta rAhUna AtmaramaNatecA anubhava karata Aheta. pustakAta lihilelI vANI mokSArthIlA mArga dAkhaviNyAcyA hetUne atyaMta upayogI siddha jhAlI Ahe. paraMtu mokSa prAptisAThI AtmajJAna prApta karaNe jarurI Ahe. akrama mArga dvArA AtmajJAnAcI prApti Aja paNa cAlU Ahe. tyAsAThI pratyakSa AtmajJAnIlA bheTUna AtmajJAnAcI prApti karela tevhAca he zakya Ahe. prajvalita divAca dusarA divA prajvalita karU zakato.
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________________ nivedana parama pUjya 'dAdA bhagavAna' yAMcyA praznottarI satsaMgAta vicAralelyA praznAMce uttara detAnA tyAMcyA zrImukhAtUna adhyAtma ANi vyavahAra jJAnAsaMbaMdhI jI vANI nighAlI, tI rekaoNrDa karUna, saMkalana va saMpAdana karUna pustakAMcyA rupAta prakAzita kelI jAta Ahe. tyAca sAkSAta sarasvatIce adbhUta saMkalana hyA pustakAta jhAle Ahe, je AmhA sarvAMsAThI varadAnarupa Tharela. prastuta anuvAdAcI vAkyaracanA marAThI vyAkaraNAcyA mApadaNDA vara kadAcita kharI nAhI TharaNAra paraMtu dAdAzrIMcI gujarAtI vANIce zabdaza: marAThI anuvAda karaNyAcA prayatna kelelA Ahe, kI jeNe karuna vAcakAMnA asA anubhava vhAvA kI dAdAjIMcIca vANI aikalI jAta Ahe. paNa tarIsuddhA dAdAzrIMcyA AtmajJAnAce acUka Azaya, jase Ahe tase tara tumhAlA gujarAtI bhASetaca avagata hoIla. jyAMnA jJAnAcA gahana artha samajUna ghyAyacA asela, jJAnAcA kharA marma jANAyacA asela, tyAMnI hyA hetUne gujarAtI bhASA zikAvI asA AmacA anurodha Ahe. anuvAdAsaMbaMdhI uNIvAMsAThI Apale kSamAprArthI Ahota. vAcakAMnA... hyA pustakAtIla mudrita pAThyasAmagrI mULataH 'karmanu vijJAna' yA gujarAtI pustakAce marAThI anuvAda Ahe. + jithe jithe 'caMdubhAU' hyA nAvAcA ullekha kelA Ahe, tithe tithe vAcakAMnI svata:ce nAva samajUna vAcana karAve. pustakAtIla koNatIhI goSTa jara tumhAlA samajalI nAhI, tara pratyakSa satsaMgAta yevUna tyAce samAdhAna miLavAve azI namra vinaMtI. dAdAzrIMcyA zrI mukhAtUta nighAlele kAhI gujarAtI zabda jase cyA tase 'iTAliksa'madhye Thevale Aheta, kAraNa tyA zabdAMsAThI marAThImadhye taseca koNatehI zabda upalabdha nAhIta kI jyAmuLe tyAcA artha pUrNapaNe samajatA yeIla. paNa tarIhI tyA zabdAce samanAthI zabda () kaMsAta lihilele Aheta. 7
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________________ saMpAdakIya akalpita, anirdhAritaghaTanA sahasA TI.vhI. kiMvA vartamAna patrAtUna vAcAyalA miLatAta jase kI, vimAna kosaLUna 400 loka ThAra jhAle, moThA baoNmba-sphoTa jhAlA, Aga lAgalI, bhUkaMpa jhAlA, vAdaLa Ale, hajAro loka mArale gele! kitItarI apaghAtAta mArale gele, kAhI AjArAne mele, kAhI janmatAca mRtyu pAvale! kityekAMnI upAsamArImuLe AtmahatyA kelI, kAhI dharmAtmA galiccha vartana karatAnA pakaDale gele, kitItarI bhikArI upAzI mele! paNa saMta, bhakta, jJAnIMsArakhe ucca mahAtmA nijAnaMdAta jIvana jagata Aheta! dararoja dillItIla ghoTALe ughaDakIsa yetAta. azA bAtamyAMnI pratyeka mANasAcyA hRdayAta eka moThe praznacinha ubhe rAhate kI, yAce rahasya kAya? yAcyA mAge kAhI guhya kAraNa asela kA? nirdoSa bAlaka janmatAca kA apaMga jhAle? hRdaya dravita hoUna jAte, khUpa vicAramaMthana karUnahI manAce samAdhAna hota nAhI ANi zevaTI ApApalI karma. ase mAnUna, asamAdhAnAmuLe jaDa jhAlelyA manAne gappa hoto. karma Ahe ase mhaNato, paraMtu karma mhaNaje nemake kAya Ahe? kazA prakAre karma bAMdhale jAte? tyAcI surUvAta kazI hote? pahile karma kuThUna surU jhAle? karmAtuna muktI miLU zakate kA? karmAce bhoga TALale jAU zakatAta kA? bhagavaMta karata asatIla kI karma karavUna gheta asatIla? mRtyu naMtara kAya hote? karma koNa bAMdhata asela? bhogato koNa? AtmA kI deha? ApalI lokaM karma kazAsa mhaNatAta? kAma-dhaMdA karato, satkArya karato, dAna-dharma karato yA sarvAMnA 'karma kele' ase mhaNatAta, jJAnI yAlA karma mhaNata nAhIta paNa karmaphaLa mhaNatAta. je pAca iMdriyAMnI pAhU zakato, anubhavU zakato te sarva sthULa Ahe. te karmaphaLa mhaNaje DiscArja (pUrvI bAMdhalele karma udayAsa yeNe) karma mhaTale jAte. mAgacyA janmI je cArja (navIna karma bAMdhaNe) kele hote te Aja DiscArja madhye Ale, rupakAta Ale ANi AtA je navIna karma cArja karIta Ahota te sukSmAta hota asate va te cArjiMga poIMTa kuNAlAhI kaLU zakela ase nAhI. samajA ekhAdyA zeThakaDe ekA saMsthece TrasTI dharmArtha dAna deNyAsa dabAva TAkatAta va zeTha pAca lAkha rupaye dAna mhaNUna detAta. tyAnaMtara tyA zeThacA
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________________ mitra zeThalA vicArato kI, 'are, hyA lokAMnA tu kA dilesa? he sarva cora Aheta, tujhe paise khAUna TAkatIla.' tyAvara zeTha mhaNato, 'yA sarvAMnAca, ekekAlA mI cAMgalyA prakAre oLakhUna Ahe. paNa kAya karu? tyA saMsthece cearamana mAjhe vyAhI Aheta mhaNUna tyAMcyA dabAvAmuLe dyAve lAgale, nAhItara mI pAca rupaye paNa deIla asA nAhI. AtA pAca lAkha rupaye dAna kele mhaNUna bAhera lokAMnA zeThajIMsAThI dhanyadhanya vATale, paNa te zeThajIMce DiscArja karma hote ANi cArja kAya kele zeThajIMnI? pAca rupaye paNa deNAra nAhI! mhaNaje to sukSmAta ulaTe (nakArAtma) cArja karato. tyAmuLe zeTha puDhacyA janmAta kuNAlAhI pAca rupaye suddhA deU zakaNAra nAhI! ANi dusarA garIba mANUsa tyAca saMsthecyA lokAMnA pAca rupayeca deto ANi mhaNato kI, mAjhyA javaLa pAca lAkha asate tara te sarvaca dile asate! jo manApAsUna deto, to puDhacyA janmI pAca lAkha rupaye deU zakato. ase bAhera je disate, te phaLa Ahe ANi Ata sukSmAta bIja TAkale jAte, te kuNAlAhI samajela ase nAhI. te tara aMtarmukha dRSTI jhAlyAnaMtaraca disate. AtA he samajale tara bhAva bighaDatIla kA? mAgacyA janmAta, 'khAUna piUna majA karAyacI Ahe' ase karma bAMdhUna ANale te saMcita karma. te saMcita karma sukSmAta sTaoNka madhye asate, te phaLa deNyAsa sanmUkha hote tevhA manuSya jaMka-phUDa (kacarA) khANyAsa prerita hoto ANi khAUna TAkato, te prArabdha karma ANi maga jevhA tyAce punhA phaLa yete mhaNaje iphekTa cA iphekTa yeto tevhA tyAce poTa piLUna nighate, kiMvA AjArI paDato, he kriyamANa karma. parama pUjya dAdAzrIMnI karmAcyA siddhAMtAcyAhI puDhe 'vyavasthita' zaktilA 'jagataniyaMtA' (jagata cAlaviNArI) mhaTale Ahe, karma tara 'vyavasthita' zakticA aMza mAtra mhaTale jAIla. 'vyavasthita'madhye karma sAmAvale jAIla paraMtu karmAta 'vyavasthita' sAmAvale jAta nAhI. karma tara bIja svarUpAta ApaNa sUkSmAta pUrvajanmAtUna bAMdhUna ANato te. AtA tevaDhyAne kAhI purNa hota nAhI. tyA karmAce phaLa yete mhaNaje tyA bIjAtUna jhADa tayAra hote ANi phaLa yete toparyaMta tyAta kityeka saMyogAMcI garaja paDate. bIjAsa jamIna, pANI, khata, gAravA, uSNatA, veLa he sarva saMyoga ekatra AlyAvara kairI pikate
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________________ va AMbA miLato. dAdAzrIMnI khupaca suMdara spaSTIkaraNa kele Ahe kI hI sarva tara phaLaM Ahe. karmabIja tara Ata sUkSmAta kAma karate. anekAMnA asA prazna paDato kI pahile karma kazA prakAre bAMdhale gele asela? pahilA deha kI pahile karma? pahile aMDe kI pahilI koMbaDI? azA prakAracI goSTa jhAlI hI! kharokhara, vAstaviketa pahile karma azI koNatIhI vastUca nAhI hyA jagAta! karma ANi AtmA anAdikALApAsUna Aheta. jyAlA ApaNa karma mhaNata asato te jaDa tattvAce Ahe ANi AtmA cetana tattva Ahe. donhI tattve vegaLIca Aheta. ANi tattva mhaNaje sanAtana vastU mhaTalI jAte. je sanAtana asate tyAcA Adi (prAraMbha) kasA asU zakato? he tara AtmA ANi jaDa tattvAce saMyoga jhAle ANi tyAta Aropita bhAva yAMce AropaNa hotaca gele. tyAce he phaLa yeUna ubhe rAhile. saMyoga viyogI svabhAvAce Aheta. mhaNUna saMyoga yetAta ANi jAtAta. tyAmuLe niranirALyA prakAracyA avasthA utpanna hotAta ANi jAtAta. tyAta rA~ga bilIpha (cukIcI mAnyatA) ubhI rAhate kI 'he mI Ahe ANi he mAjhe Ahe' tyAmuLe he rupI jaga bhAsyamAna hote. he rahasya jara samajale tara zuddhAtmA ANi saMyoga yA donaca vastu Aheta jagAta. paraMtu evaDhe na samajalyAmuLe vegavegaLyA sthULa bhASeta karma, nazIba, prArabdha he sarva mhaNAve lAgate. paNa vijJAna evaDheca mhaNate, mAtra je sarva saMyoga Aheta, tyAtUna para (vegaLe) hoUna gele tara AtmyAtaca rAhU zakato! tara maga karmA sArakhe kAhIca uraNAra nAhI. karma kazA prakAre bAMdhalI jAtAta? kartAbhAvAne karma bAMdhalI jAtAta. kartAbhAva kazAlA mhaNatAta? karato koNItarI ANi mAnato kI 'mI karato', tyAce nAva kartAbhAva. kartAbhAva kazAne hoto? ahaMkArAne. ahaMkAra koNAsa mhaNatAta? jo svata: nAhI tithe 'mI' paNAce AropaNa karato, tyAce nAva 10
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________________ ahaMkAra. Aropita bhAva tyAce nAva ahaMkAra, 'mI caMdalAla Ahe' ase mAnato toca ahaMkAra Ahe. kharokhara svataH caMdulAla Ahe? kI caMdulAla nAva Ahe? nAvAlA 'mI' mAnato, zarIrAlA 'mI' mAnato, mI patI Ahe, hyA sarva rA~ga bilIpha (cukIcyA mAnyatA) Aheta. kharokhara tara svataH AtmAca Ahe, zuddhAtmA Ahe paNa tyAce bhAna nAhI, jJAna nAhI mhaNUna mI caMdulAla, mIca deha (zarIra) Ahe ase mAnato. hIca ajJAnatA Ahe! ANi yAcyAneca karma bAMdhale jAte. chuTe dehAdhyAsa to nahI kartA tU karma, nahI bhoktA tU tehano e che dharmano mrm| - zrImada raajcNdr| jo tU jIva to kartA harI, jo tU ziva to vastu khrii| - akhA bhgt| 'mI caMdulAla Ahe' ase bhAna Ahe tyAlA jIvadazA mhaTale, ANi mI caMdulAla nAhI paNa mI tara kharokhara zuddhAtmA Ahe hyAce bhAna, jJAna vartanAta yete tyAlA ziva pada mhaTale Ahe. svata:ca ziva Ahe. AtmA hAca paramAtmA Ahe ANi koNatIhI saMsArI kriyA karaNyAcA tyAcA svabhAva nAhI. svabhAvataH AtmA akriya Ahe, asaMga Ahe. 'mI AtmA Ahe' ANi mI kAhIca karata nAhI ase niraMtara lakSAta rAhate. tyAlA jJAnI mhaTale Ahe ANi tyAnaMtara eka hI navIna karma bAMdhale jAta nAhI. janI DiscArja karma phaLa deUna saMpata jAtAta. mAgacyA janmI karmabIja perato, tyA karmAce phaLa yA janmAta yete. tevhA he phaLa koNa deto? bhagavaMta? nAhI. nisarga deto. jyAlA parama pUjya dAdAzrI sAyanTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDansa 'vyavasthita zakti' mhaNatAta. jyA cArjace DiscArja naeNcaralI ANi oNTomaeNTIkalI hote. paraMtu te phaLa bhogate veLI ajJAnatemuLe punhA AvaDa-nAvaDa, rAga-dveSa kelyAzivAya to rahAta nAhI. jyAmuLe to navIna bIjaM TAkato. jyAce phaLa tyAlA puDhacyA janmI bhogAve lAgate. jJAnIMnI navIna bIja TAkaNyAce thAMbavalele Ahe, jyAmuLe mAgace phaLa purNa hoUna tyAMnA mokSapadAcI prAptI hote! koNI ApalA apamAna karato, nukasAna karato, to tara nimitta Ahe, 11
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________________ nirdoSa Ahe. kAraNAzivAya kAryAta kazAprakAre yeIla? svataH apamAnita hoNyAcI kAraNe bAMdhUna ANalI Aheta tyAceca phaLa, tyAcAca iphekTa yeUna ubhA rAhato tevhA, dusarI disaNArI kitItarI nimitaM tyAta ekatra vhAvI lAgatAta. phakta 'bI' ne phaLa nAhI pikata. paNa sarvaca nimitte ekatra jhAlI taraca bIja madhUna jhADa tayAra hote va phaLa khAyalA miLate. mhaNaje he je phaLa yete tyAta dusar2yA nimitAMzivAya phaLa kazAprakAre yeIla? apamAna khANyAce (apamAnita hoNyAce) bIja ApaNaca perale hote, tyAce phaLa apamAna miLato. apamAna miLaNyAsAThI itara nimitaM ekatra yAvI lAgatAta. AtA yA nimittAMnA doSIta pAhUna kaSAya (krodha,mAna,mAyA,lobha) karuna manuSya ajJAnatene nave karma bAMdhato. paraMtU jara jJAna hajara rAhile kI samoracI vyakti tara nimittaca Ahe, nirdoSa Ahe, ANi hA apamAna miLato te mAjhyA karmAce phaLa Ahe, tara navIna karma bAMdhale jAta nAhI. ANi tyAmuLe mukta rahAtA yeIla. samoracI vyakti doSIta disalI kI lageca tyAlA nirdoSa pahAve, ANi tyAlA doSIta pAhilyA baddala lagecaca pratikramaNa zUTa eTa sAiTa karUna TAkAyace, jyAmuLe bIja zekale jAIla ANi parata ugaNAraca nAhI. dusarI sarva nimittaM ekatra yevUna svataH TAkalelyA bIjAce phaLa yeNe ANi svata:lA bhogAve lAgaNe, hI sarva prosesa (prakriyA) phakta sAyanTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDansa Ahe ANi tyAlAca dAdAzrIMnI 'vyavasthita zakti' phaLa dete, ase mhaTale Ahe. 'jJAnI puruSa' parama pUjya zrIdAdA bhagavAnAMnI svata:cyA jJAnAta avalokana karuna jagAlA 'karmAce vijJAna' dile Ahe. je dAdAzrIMcyA vANIta yethe saMkSiptamadhye pustaka rupAta Thevale Ahe, je vAcakAMnA jIvanAta goMdhaLUna TAkaNAr2yA koDayAMcI samAdhAnakAraka uttare detIla. - DaoN. nIrubahena amIna ce jaya saccidAnaMda.
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________________ karmAce vijJAna karato kI karAve lAgate? dAdAzrI : tujhyAsobata ase kadhI ghaDate kA, kI tujhI icchA nasate tarIhI tulA tase kAhI karAve lAgate? ase hote kA kadhItarI? ase hote kI nAhI? praznakartA : ho ase hote. dAdAzrI : lokAMnAhI ase hota asela kI nAhI? tyAce kAraNa kAya? kI icchA nasate tarI suddhA karAve lAgate tyAce kAraNa kAya? tara te pUrvakarma kele hote tyAcA hA iphekTa (pariNAma) AlA Ahe. nAIlAjAstava karAve lAgate, tyAce kAraNa kAya? jagAtIla loka yA iphekTalAca kaoNjha (pariNAmAlAca kAraNa) mhaNatAta. ANi hyA iphekTalA tara samajataca nAhI nA! jagAtale loka yAlA kaoNjha (kAraNa) mhaNatAta, tara ApaNa sAMgAyace nA kI, mAjhI icchA nAhI tarI paNa kase kAya he kArya mI kele? AtA jyAcI icchA nAhI te karma 'mI kele', he tumhI kase kAya mhaNatA? 'tumhI karma kele' ase jaga kazAmuLe mhaNate? tyAce kAraNa heca kI disaNAr2yA kriyelAca jagAtIla loka 'karma kele' ase mhaNatAta. loka mhaNatIla hyAneca he karma kele. tevhA jJAnI ase samajAtAta kI he tara pariNAma Ale. koNI pAThavile pRthvIvara? praznakartA : ApaNa svata:ca janmAlA Alo Ahota kI ApalyAlA koNI pAThaviNArA Ahe?
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________________ karmAce vijJAna dAdAzrI : koNIhI pAThaviNArA nAhI. tumacI karmaca tumhAlA gheUna jAtAta. ANi lagecaca tethe janma miLato. cAMgalI karma asatIla tara cAMgalyA ThikANIca janma miLato, kharAba karma asatIla tara kharAba ThikANI janma miLato. karmAcA siddhAMta kAya? praznakartA : karmAcI vyAkhyA kAya? dAdAzrI : koNatehI kArya karatAnA tyAsa ' mI karato' asA AdhAra deNe, hI karmAcI vyAkhyA Ahe.. 'mI karato' asA AdhAra deto, yAlA karma bAMdhaNe ase mhaNatAta. 'mI karata nAhI' ANi 'koNa karata Ahe' he jANUna ghetalyAvara karmAlA nirAdhAra karato, tevhA tI karma gaLUna paDatAta. ( saMpatAta) praznakartA : karmAcA siddhAMta mhaNaje kAya? dAdAzrI : tu vihIrIta utaruna mhaNalAsa kI 'tu cora Ahesa' tara vihIra kAya mhaNela? praznakartA : 'tu cora Ahesa' ase ApaNa bolalo kI tasAca pratidhvanI aikU yeto. dAdAzrI : basa, basa. he jara tulA AvaData nasela, tara tu mhaNAyace kI 'tu bAdazAha Ahesa.' mhaNaje to tulA 'bAdazAha' mhaNela. tulA AvaData asela tara bola, hA Ahe karmAcA siddhAMta ! tulA vakIlI AvaData asela tara vakIlI kara. DaoNkTarakI AvaData asela tara DaoNkTarakI kara. karma mhaNaje kzana. rikzana mhaNaje kAya? tara to pratidhvanI Ahe. rikzana pratidhvanIvAle Ahe. tyAce phaLa AlyAzivAya rahAta nAhI. tI vihIra kAya mhaNela? he sarva jaga Apaleca projekTa (yojanA, prakalpa) Ahe. tumhI jyAlA karma mhaNata hotA nA, te Apaleca projekTa Ahe. praznakartA : karmAcA siddhAMta Ahe kI nAhI? dAdAzrI : saMpUrNa jaga karmAcA siddhAMtaca Ahe. bAkI dusare kAhIca
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________________ karmAce vijJAna 3 nAhI. ANi tumacyAca jokhimadArImuLe baMdhana Ahe. he sarva projekzana tumaceca Ahe. hA deha suddhA tumhIca ghaDavilA Ahe. tumhAlA je je miLAle te sarva tumhIca ghaDavilele Ahe. yAta dusar2yA koNAcAhI hAta nAhI. hola aeNnDa sola rispaoNnsibiliTI tumacIca Ahe sagaLI, anaMta janmApAsUnacI. Apaleca 'projekzana' vihIrIta jAUna projekTa kele, hyAvaruna loka ase mhaNatIla kI basa, projekTa karaNyAcIca garaja Ahe. ApaNa jara tyAMnA vicArale kI tumhI ase kazAvarUna mhaNatA? tevhA mhaNatIla kI vihIrIta jAUna mI AdhI ase bolalo hoto kI 'tu cora Ahesa.' tevhA vihIra malA mhaNAlI kI 'tu cora Ahesa.' maga mI projekTa badalale kI, tu 'rAjA Ahesa.' tara tine paNa mhaTale 'tu rAjA Ahesa.' are paNa, hA projekTa tujhyA hAtAta Aheca kuThe? projekTalA badalaNe hI goSTa tara kharI Ahe, paraMtu tehI tujhyA hAtAta nAhI. ho, te svataMtra Ahe suddhA ANi nAhI suddhA. 'nAhI' he jAsta pramANAta Ahe ANi 'Ahe' he kamI pramANAta Ahe. ase he parasattAvAle jaga Ahe. khare jJAna samajalyAnaMtara svataMtra Ahe, toparyaMta svataMtra nAhI. paNa maga AtA projekTa baMda kase hoIla? tara hyAtUna joparyaMta svata:ce svarUpa sApaData nAhI. arthAta hyA sarvAMta 'mI he Ahe kI te Ahe?' toparyaMta bhaTakaNe Ahe. hA deha tara mI nAhI. he DoLe suddhA mI nAhI. Ata khUpa sAre spearapArTasa (avayava) Aheta. yA sagaLayAta 'mI caMdubhAU Ahe' (caMdubhAUcyA jAgI vAcakAMnI svata:ce nAva samajAyace) ase ajUna bhAna Ahe. tyAmuLe he sAra kADhU zakata nAhI, mhaNUna to kAya samajato? hA tyAga karato? toca 'mI' Ahe. tyAmuLe khare tara, 'mI' kuThehI yogya sthAnAvara ubhA rAhilA nAhI tyAMnA. to samajato kI hA tapa karato toca 'mI' Ahe. sAmAyika karato toca mI Ahe, pravacana deto toca 'mI' Ahe. joparyaMta 'mI karata Ahe' ase bhAna Ahe toparyaMta navIna projekTa karata rAhato. ANi junyA projekTaanusAra bhogata rAhato. karmAcA siddhAMta jara samajata asAla, taraca mokSAcA siddhAMta samajela.
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________________ karmAce vijJAna rA~ga bilIpha ne karmabaMdhana tumace nAva kAya Ahe? praznakartA : caMdubhAU. dAdAzrI : kharokhara caMdubhAU AhAta? praznakartA : ase kase mhaNU zakato? sarvAMnA je vATate teca khare. dAdAzrI : tara maga kharokhara caMdubhAU AhAta, nAhI kA? tumhAlA khAtrI nAhI kA? 'mAya nema ija (mAjhe nAva) caMdubhAU ase bolatA nA?' praznakartA : malA tara khAtrI Aheca. dAdAzrI : mAya nema Ija caMdUbhAU. naoNTa Aya. tara kharokhara tumhI caMdubhAU AhAta kI dusare koNI AhAta? praznakartA : he khare Ahe, ApaNa kAhI vegaLeca Ahota. hI tara vAstavikatA Ahe. dAdAzrI : he 'caMdubhAU' tara oLakhaNyAce sAdhana Ahe, kI he dehavAle, he bhAU, te caMdubhAU Aheta. tumhIhI ase jANatA kI yA dehAce nAva caMdubhAU Ahe. paNa tumhI koNa AhAta? he jANUna ghyAyalA nako? praznakartA : he jANUna ghyAyalA have. jANUna gheNyAcA prayatna kelA pAhije. dAdAzrI : mhaNaje he kazAsArakhe jhAle kI tumhI caMdubhAU nAhIta, tarIhI tumhI Aropa karatA, caMdubhAUcyA nAvAne sagaLA phAyadA uThavatA. hyA strIcA patI Ahe. yAcA mAmA Ahe, yAcA kAkA Ahe, ase lAbha uThavatA. tyAmuLe niraMtara karma bAMdhataca rAhatA. joparyaMta tumhI Aropita bhAvAta AhAta, toparyaMta karma bAMdhalI jAtAta. 'mI koNa Ahe?' he nakkI jhAlyAnaMtara tumhAlA karma baMdhana hoNAra nAhI. arthAta AtAhI karma bAMdhalI jAta Aheta ANi rAtrI jhopetahI karma bAMdhalI jAtAta. kAraNa kI 'caMdubhAU Ahe' ase mAnUna jhopatAta. 'mI
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________________ karmAce vijJAna caMdubhAU Ahe.' hI tumacI rA~ga bilIpha (cukIcI mAnyatA) Ahe, tyAne karma bAMdhalI jAtAta. bhagavaMtAne sarvAta moThe karma kazAsa mhaTale? rAtrI 'mI caMdubhAU Ahe' ase mAnUna jhopUna gelAta ANi maga AtmyAlA potyAta TAkale, te sarvAta moThe karma ! kartApadAne karmabaMdhana praznakartA : karma kazAne bAMdhalI jAtAta? he ANakhI thoDe savistara samajAvUna sAMgA nA... dAdAzrI : karma kazAne bAMdhalI jAtAta, te tumhAMlA sAMgU kA ? tumhI karma karIta nAhI, tarIhI mAnatA kI 'mI karato' mhaNUna tumace baMdhana jAta nAhI. bhagavaMta suddhA kartA nAhI. bhagavaMta kartA asate, tara tyAMnA baMdhana jhAle asate. arthAta bhagavaMta kartA nAhIta ANi tumhI suddhA kartA nAhIta. paNa tumhI mAnatAta kI 'mI karato' tyAmuLe karma bAMdhalI jAtAta. kaoNlejAta pAsa jhAlAta, te dusar2yA zakticyA AdhArAvara ANi tumhI mhaNatA kI mI pAsa jhAlo. hA Aropita bhAva Ahe. tyAmuLe karmabAMdhale jAte. vedAMtAne suddhA svIkArale nirizvaravAda praznakartA : jara dusar2yA koNatyA tarI zaktIne hota asate, tara maga koNI corI kelI, hA kAhI gunhA nAhI. ANi koNI dAna dile tara, to suddhA gunhA nAhI. mhaNaje he sarva kAhI sArakheca mhaTale jAIla nA ! dAdAzrI : ho. sArakheca mhaTale jAIla. paNa maga te sArakhe Thevata nAhIta nA. dAna deNArA azI chAtI kADhUna phirato, mhaNUna tara to bAMdhalA gelA ANi corI karaNArA mhaNato, kI cAMgalyA cAMgalyAMcI corI karato paNa 'malA koNI pakaDUca zakata nAhI', mhaNUna to murkha bAMdhalA gelA. 'mI kele' ase mhaTale nAhI, tara kAhIhI sparzata nAhI (karma bAMdhale jAta nAhI). praznakartA : azI eka mAnyatA Ahe kI, prAthamika kakSeta ApaNa ase mAnata asato kI, Izvara kartA Ahe. puDhe jAUna vedAMmadhyehI nirizvaravAdA zivAya kAhIca nAhI. upaniSadAmadhye paNa nirizvaravAdaca Ahe.
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________________ 6 karmAce vijJAna Izvara kartA nAhI. karmAcI phaLe pratyekAlA bhogAvI lAgatAta. tara hI karmAcI phaLe janmojanmI azIca cAlU rAhatAta kA? dAdAzrI : ho tara. nakkIca. karmAce ase Ahe kI, yA kairImadhUna jhADa ANi jhADAtUna kairI, parata kairImadhUna jhADa ANi jhADAtUna kairI. praznakartA : hA tara utkrAMtIcA niyama jhAlA, he tara hotaca rAhaNAra. dAdAzrI : nAhI, heca karma phaLa, hI kairI phaLa rupAta AlI. tyA phaLAmadhUna bI paDate ANi punhA jhADa hote ANi jhADAmadhUna punhA phaLa yete nA! he cAlataca rAhIla. karmAtUna karmabIja paDataca rAhate. praznakartA : tara maga he zubha-azubha karma baMdhana hotaca rAhaNAra, suTaNAraca nAhI. dAdAzrI : ho, varacA gara khAUna gheto ANi koya parata TAkalI jAte. praznakartA : tyAne tara tithe punhA AMbyAce jhADa utpanna hoIla. dAdAzrI : suTakAca nAhInA! jara tumhI ekIkaDe IzvarAlA kartA mAnatA tara maga, dusarIkaDe tumhI svata:lA suddhA kartA kA mAnatA? hA tara punhA svata:lA ca kartA mAnato! manuSya ekaTAca asA Ahe kI, jo 'mI kartA Ahe' ase bhAna Thevato. ANi jethe kartA jhAlA tethe AzritatA tuTUna jAte. tyAlA bhagavaMta mhaNatAta kI, 'bhAU, tUca karatosa tara, tu vegaLA ANi mI vegaLA.' maga bhagavatAMce ANi tumace kAya deNe-gheNe Ahe? svata:lA kartA mAnato mhaNUna karmabaMdhana hote. svata:lA jara tyA karmAcA kartA mAnale nAhI tara tyA karmAcA vilaya hoto. he Ahe mahAbhajanAce marma mhaNUna akhA bhagata mhaNatAta kI, jo tu jIva to kartA harI; jo tu zIva to vastu kharI!
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________________ karmAce vijJAna arthAta jara 'tu zuddhAtmA Ahesa' tara goSTa kharI Ahe. ANi jara 'tu jIva Ahe;' tara vara kartA harI Ahe. ANi jara tu zIva Ahesa' tara vastu kharI Ahe. vara harI nAvAcA koNI Aheca nAhI. arthAta jIva-zIva hA bheda gelA tara paramAtmA hoNyAcI tayArI suru jhAlI. he sagaLe bhagavaMtAlA bhajatAta, hA jIvA-zIvAcA bheda Ahe. ANi ApalyA yethe jJAna miLAlyA naMtara jIvA-zIvAcA bheda miTUna jAto. kartA chUTe to chUTe karma; e che, mahAbhajanano marma! cArja (navIna karma bAMdhaNe) kevhA hote kI 'mI caMdubhAU Ahe ANi he mI kele.' mhaNaje jI ulaTa mAnyatA Ahe, tyAmuLe karma bAMdhale gele. AtA jara AtmyAce jJAna miLAle tara 'tumhI' caMdubhAU nAhI. caMdubhAU tara vyavahArAne AhAta, nizcayAne nAhI. ANi he 'mI kele' te vyavahArAne. arthAt kartApaNa miTale tara maga karma suTUna jAte. nave karma bAMdhale jAta nAhIta. 'mI kartA nAhI' he bhAna jhAle, hI zraddhA basalI, tevhApAsUna karma suTale. karma bAMdhAyace thAMbale. mhaNajeca cArja hoNe baMda jhAle. he Ahe mahAbhajanAce marma. mahAbhajana kazAsa mhaNatAta? sarva zAstrAMce sAra tyAsa mahAbhajana mhaNatAta. he mahAbhajanAcehI sAra Ahe. karato toca bhogato praznakartA : ApalI zAstraM ase sAMgatAta kI pratyekAlA karmApramANe phaLa miLate! dAdAzrI : to tara svata:ca svata:sAThI jabAbadAra Ahe. bhagavaMtAne hyAta hAta ghAtalelAca nAhI. yA jagAta tumhI svataMtraca AhAta. uparI (variSTha) koNa Ahe? tumhAlA anDarahaeNnDa (nokara, hAtAkhAlacI mANasaM) cI savaya Ahe mhaNUna tumhAlA variSTha bheTatAta, nAhI tara tumacA koNI variSThahI nAhI va anDarahaeNnDahI nAhI, ase he jaga Ahe! he tara samajaNyAcI AvazyakatA Ahe. dusare kAhI nAhI. saMpUrNa jagAta sarva ThikANI phiruna Alo, azI koNatI jAgA nAhI
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________________ karmAce vijJAna kI jithe variSThapaNA asela. bhagavaMta tumace variSTha nAhIta. tumace jokhimadAra tumhI svata:ca AhAta. sarva jagAtIla lokaM mAnatAta kI jaga bhagavaMtAMnI banavale. paNa je purnajanmAcA siddhAMta samajatAta tyAMcyAkaDUna ase mAnale jAU zakata nAhI, kI jaga bhagavaMtAne banavile Ahe. punarjanma mhaNaje kAya kI 'mI karato' ANi 'mI bhogato.' ANi mAjhyAca karmAce phaLa mI bhogato Ahe. yAta bhagavaMtAMcA hastakSepa nAhIca. svataH je kAhI karato te svata:cyA jabAbadArIvaraca karato. koNAcyA jabAbadArIvara Ahe he, he samajale nA? praznakartA : AjaparyaMta ase samajata hoto kI bhagavaMtAMcI jabAbadArI Ahe. dAdAzrI : nAhI. svata:cIca jabAbadArI Ahe! hola nDa sola rispaoNnsibiliTI (saMrpUNa jabAbadArI) svata:cIca Ahe, paNa maga tyA mANasAlA goLI kA mAralI? to jabAbadAra hotA mhaNUna tyAlA tyAce he phaLa miLAle ANi hA mAraNArA jevhA jabAbadAra Tharela, tevhA tyAce phaLa tyAlA miLela. tyAcI veLa yeIla tevhA tyAce phaLa miLela. jase, Aja jara kairI jhADAlA lAgalI, tara AjacyA Aja kairI ANUna ticA rasa kADhU zakaNAra nAhI. te tara veLa AlyAvara, tI moThI hoIla, pikela, tevhA rasa nighela. tyAcapramANe hI goLI lAgalI, paNa tyA agodara tI pikUna tayAra hote, tevhA tI lAgate. azIca lAgata nAhI. ANi mAraNAr2yAne goLI mAralI tyAcI Aja evaDhI choTI kairI jhADAlA lAgalI Ahe, tI moThI jhAlyAvara pikela, tyAnaMtaraca ticA rasa nighela. karmabaMdhana, AtmyAlA kI dehAlA? praznakartA : tara maga AtA karmabaMdhana koNAlA hote. AtmyAlA kI dehAlA? dAdAzrI : hA deha tara svataHca karma Ahe. maga dusare baMdhana tyAlA kUThUna hoNAra? he tara jyAlA baMdhana vATata asela, jo jelamadhye basalA asela tyAlA baMdhana Ahe. jelalA baMdhana asate kI jo jelamadhye basalA asela tyAlA baMdhana asate? arthAta hA deha jela Ahe ANi tyAcyA Ata
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________________ karmAce vijJAna jo basalA Ahe tyAlA baMdhana Ahe. 'mI bAMdhalelA Ahe, mI deha Ahe, mI caMdubhAU Ahe' ase mAnato, tyAlA baMdhana Ahe. praznakartA : mhaNaje ApalyAlA ase mhaNAyace Ahe kI AtmA dehAcyA mAdhyamAtUna karma bAMdhato, ANi dehAcyA mAdhyamAtUna karma soDato? ___ dAdAzrI : nAhI, ase nAhI. AtmA tara hyAta hAta ghAlataca nAhI. khare tara AtmA bhinnaca Ahe, svataMtra Ahe. vizeSabhAvAneca hA ahaMkAra utpanna jhAlA Ahe ANi toca karma bAMdhato ANi toca karma bhogato. 'tumhI zuddhAtmA AhAta' paNa bolatA kI mI 'caMdubhAU Ahe.' jithe svataH nAhI, tithe Aropa karaNe kI 'mI Ahe' tyAsa ahaMkAra mhaNatAta. parakyAcyA sthAnAlA svata:ce sthAna mAnatA, hA Igoijhama (ahaMkAra) Ahe. hA ahaMkAra suTalA tara svata:cyA sthAnAvara yeU zakatA. tethe baMdhana nAhIca. karma anAdipAsUna AtmyAsobata praznakartA : tara AtmyAcI karmarahita azI sthitI asela nA? tI kevhA asate? dAdAzrI : jyAlA ekAhI saMyogAcI vaLagaNAM (baMdhana, veDhA) nasela, tyAlA karma kadhIhI cikaTata nAhIta, jyAlA koNatyAhI prakAracI vaLagaNAM nasela tyAlA karmAcA asA koNatyAhI prakAracA hizoba nAhI kI jeNe karuna tyAlA karma cikaTatIla. sadhyA siddhagatIta je siddha bhagavaMta Aheta, tyAMnA koNatyAhI prakArace karma cikaTata nAhI. veDhA saMpalA kI cikaTata nAhI. he tara saMsArAta baMdhana ubhe rAhile Ahe. ANi anAdI kALApAsUna he karmAce baMdhana Ahe. ANi te sarva sAyanTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDansamuLe Ahe. sarva tattvaM gatimAna hota asatAta va tattvaM gatimAna jhAlyAneca he sarva ubhe jhAle Ahe. hI sarva bhrAMti utpanna jhAlI Ahe. tyAmuLe he sarva vizeSabhAva utpanna jhAle Aheta. bhrAMtI mhaNajeca vizeSabhAva. tyAcA jo mULa svabhAva hotA, tyApekSA vizeSabhAva utpanna jhAlA ANi tyAmuLe hA sarva badala jhAlA Ahe. arthAt AdhI AtmA karmarahIta hotA, ase kadhIca jhAlele nAhI. jevhA to jJAnI puruSAkaDe yeto, tevhA tyAce karmAce ojhe
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________________ 10 karmAce vijJAna barecase halake jhAlele asate, arthAta to haLUkarmI (halake karma asalelA) jhAlelA asato. haLUkarmI Ahe, mhaNUna tara jJAnI puruSa bheTatAta. te bheTatAta te suddhA sAyanTiphIka sarakamasTenziyala eviDansa Ahe. svata:cyA prayatnAneca jara karAyalA gelo tara ase zakya hoNAraca nAhI. sahaja prayatna, sahajAsahaja bheTale tara kAma hote. karma he saMyoga Aheta, ANi viyogI tyAMcA svabhAva Ahe. saMbaMdha, AtmA ANi karmAce... praznakartA : AtmA ANi karma yAMcyAta kAya saMbaMdha Ahe? dAdAzrI : doghAMcyA madhye kartArupI kaDI nasela tara donhI vegaLe hotAta. AtmA, AtmyAcyA jAgevara ANi karma karmAcyA jAgevara vegaLe hoUna jAtAta. praznakartA : samajale nAhI barobara. dAdAzrI : kartA banalA nAhI tara karma nAhI. kartA Ahe mhaNUna karma Ahe. tumhI kArya karIta asAla, paNa jara tumhI tyAce kartA jhAle nAhIta tara tumhAlA karma baMdhana hoNAra nAhI. he tara tumhAlA 'mI kele' ase kartApada Ahe, tyAmuLe karma baMdhana Ahe. praznakartA : tara karmaca kartA Ahe? dAdAzrI : kartA hA kartA Ahe. 'karma' hA kartA nAhI. tumhI 'mI kele' mhaNatA kI 'karmAne kele' mhaNatA? praznakartA : 'mI karata Ahe' ase tara Ata vATataca asate nA! 'mI kele' aseca mhaNato. dAdAzrI : ho, to 'kartA.' 'mI karata Ahe' ase mhaNatA, mhaNUna tumhI kartA banatA. bAkI 'karma' kartA nAhI. 'AtmA' paNa kartA nAhI. praznakartA : karma ekIkaDe Ahe ANi AtmA ekIkaDe Ahe, tara hyA doghAMnA vegaLe kase karAyace?
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________________ karmAce vijJAna dAdAzrI : hI kaDI nighAlI nA tara, donhI vegaLeca Aheta. paNa hI tara kartApadAcI kaDIca Ahe. hyA kaDImuLe bAMdhalele Ahota ase vATate. kartApada gele, kartApada karaNArA gelA. 'mI kele' ase mhaNaNArA gelA tara jhAle, saMpale. maga tara donhI vegaLeca Aheta. karma bAMdhalI jAtAta, hI tara aMtaHkriyA praznakartA : manuSyalA karma lAgU paData asatIla kI nAhI. dAdAzrI : niraMtara karma bAMdhataca asato. dusare kAhIca karata nAhI. manuSyAcA ahaMkAra asA Ahe kI to khAta nAhI, pIta nAhI, saMsAra karata nAhI, vyApAra karata nAhI tarIhI mAtra ahamakAraca karata asato kI 'mI karato.' tyAmuLeca sarva karma bAMdhata asato. he paNa eka Azcarya Ahe nA? he prUvha (siddha) hoU zakela ase Ahe! khAta nAhI, pIta nAhI, he siddha hoU zakela ase Ahe. tarIhI karma karata asato he paNa siddha hoU zakate. ANi phakta manuSyaca karma bAMdhata asatAta. praznakartA : zarIrAsAThI khAta-pIta asela, tarI suddhA svataH karma bAMdhata naselahI nA! dAdAzrI : ase Ahe nA, koNatIhI vyakti jevhA karma karata asate tevhA DoLayAMnI disata nAhI. disate kA tumhAlA? he je DoLayAMnI disate nA, tyAsa ApalyA jagAtIla loka karma mhaNatAta. tyAMnI he kele, hyAMnI he kele, hyAne hyAlA mArale, ase karma bAMdhale. jagAtIla loka aseca mhaNatAta nA? praznakartA : ho, jase disata asate taseca mhaNatAta. dAdAzrI : karma mhaNaje tyAMcI hAlacAla (pravRtti) kAya jhAlI, tyAlA zivI dilI tarIhI karma bAMdhale, tyAlA mArale tarIhI karma bAMdhale, khAlle tarIhI karma bAMdhale. jhopUna gelo, tarIhI karma bAMdhale. kRtI kAya karato, tyAlA Apale loka karma mhaNatAta. paNa vAstavikateta je disate te karmaphaLa Ahe, te karma nAhI. karma bAMdhale jAte tevhA aMtaradAha (AtIla Aga) jaLata rAhato.
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________________ 12 karmAce vijJAna lahAna mulAlA kaDU auSadha pAjale tevhA kAya karato? toMDa bighaDavato nA! ANi goDa khAyalA dile tara? khuza hoto. yA jagAta jIvamAtra rAga-dveSa karatAta, he sarva kaoNjha (kAraNe) Ahe, yAtUna he karma utpanna jhAle Ahe. je svata:lA AvaDate te va je svata:lA AvaData nAhI te, hI donhI prakAracI karma yetAta. na AvaDaNAre karma cAvUna jAtAta, mhaNaje duHkha deUna jAtAta. ANi AvaDaNAre karma sukha deUna jAtAta. mhaNaje kaoNjhIjha mAgacyA janmAta jhAlele Ahe, te yA janmAta phaLa detAta. karmabIjAce niyama praznakartA : karma bIjAcI azI kAhI samaja Ahe kI he bIja paDela ANi he paDaNAra nAhI? dAdAzrI : ho, jara tumhI mhaNAlAta kI, 'hA nASTA kitI chAna banalA Ahe, to 'mI khAllA.' tara bIja paDale. 'mI khAlle' bolaNyAta aDacaNa nAhI. 'koNa khAto', te tumhI jANale pAhije kI mI khAta nAhI, khANArA khAta Ahe. paNa hA tara svataH kartA banato ANi kartA banalyAmuLeca bIja paDate. koNI zivyA dilyA tarI tyAcyAvara dveSa nAhI, phUla vAhile kiMvA ucalUna ghetale tara tyAcyAvara rAga (Asakti, moha) nAhI. tara tyAlA karma bAMdhale jAta nAhI. praznakartA : rAga-dveSa hoto paraMtu samajata nAhI, tara tyAvara kAya upAya? dAdAzrI : tyAce tyAlA ase bakSisa miLate kI tyAmuLe puDhIla janmAMta tyAce bhaTakaNe cAlUca rAhate. saMbaMdha, deha ANi AtmyAcA... praznakartA : deha ANi AtmA yAMcyAtIla saMbaMdhAbAbata jAsta vistArapUrvaka samajavA nA? dAdAzrI : hA jo deha Ahe, to AtmyAcyA ajJAnatene utpanna jhAlelA pariNAma Ahe. je je 'kaoNjhIjha' kele hote, tyAcA hA 'iphekTa' (pariNAma) Ahe. jara koNI tumhAlA phUla vAhile tara tumhI khuza hotA, ANi jara koNI
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________________ karmAce vijJAna tumhAlA zivI dilI tara tumhI ciDatA. tyA ciDaNyAta ANi khuza hoNyAta bAhya darzanAcI kiMmata nAhI. aMtara - bhAvAne karma cArja hotAta. te maga puDhIla janmAta DiscArja (pUrvI bAMdhalele karma udayAsa yetAta) hotAta. tyAveLI te 'iphekTiva' Ahe. he mana-vacana - kAyA tinhI 'iphekTiva' Aheta. 'iphekTa' bhogatAnA dUsare navIna kaoNjhIjha utpanna hotAta. je puDhIla janmAta parata 'iphekTiva' hotAta. azAprakAre 'kaoNjhIjha' ANi 'iphekTa', 'iphekTa' ANi 'kaoNjhIjha' ase cakra niraMtara cAlUca rAhate. mhaNUna phaoNrInacyA sAyanTisTa lokAMnAhI samajate kI, azAprakAre punarjanma Ahe. mhaNUna khUpa khuza hotAta kI iphekTa enDa kaoNjhIjha Aheta he ! 13 tara he sarva iphekTa Aheta. tumhI vakIlI karatA te sarva iphekTa Ahe. iphekTamadhye ahaMkAra karU naye kI 'mI kele. ' iphekTa tara ApoApaca yeto. he pANI khAlI jAte, tevhA te ase mhaNata nAhI kI 'mI jAta Ahe', te samudrAkaDe cAraze maila ase tase vaLUna jAtaca asate nA! ANi manuSya tara ekhAdyAcI kesa jiMkUna dilI tara 'mI kazI jiMkUna dilI' ase bolato. AtA tyAne tyAcA ahaMkAra kelA, tyAmuLe tyAce karma bAMdhale gele, kaoNjha jhAle. tyAce phaLa punhA iphekTamadhye yeIla. kAraNa-kAryAce rahasya iphekTa tumhAlA samajale kA ? ApaNahUna yetaca asatAta tyAce nAva iphekTa. ApaNa parIkSA deto nA, he kaoNjha mhaTale jAIla. naMtara tyAcyA pariNAmAcI ciMtA ApaNa karAyacI nasate. to tara iphekTa Ahe. paraMtu saMpUrNa jaga pariNAmAcI ciMtA karata asate. kharaM tara kaoNjhasAThI ciMtA karaNyAsArakhe Ahe! he vijJAna tulA samajale kA ? vijJAna siddhAMtika asate. avirodhAbhAsa asate. tu bijhanesa kelA va dona lAkha kamavale, tara te kaoNjha Ahe kI iphekTa? praznakartA: kaoNjhIjha Ahe. dAdAzrI : kazAprakAre kaoNjhIjha Ahe te malA samajavUna sAMga. manAsArakhe karU zakato kA ?
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________________ karmAce vijJAna praznakartA : tumhI bijhanesa karatA tevhA je vhAyace asate te hoteca, to iphekTa Ahe. paraMtu bijhanesa karaNyAsAThI kaoNjhIjha tara karAve lAgatAta nA? tevhAca bijhanesa karU zakato nA? 14 dAdAzrI : nAhI, kaoNjhIjhamadhye itara koNatyAhI rileTIva vastu vAparalyA jAta nAhIta. bijhanesa tara zarIra cAMgale asela, DokaM cAMgale cAlata asela, he sarva asela tevhA hoto nA! sagaLyAMcyA AdhArAvara je hota asela, to iphekTa ANi jo mANUsa basalyA basalyA 'hyAce vAITa hoIla, ase hoIla.' ase karato te sarva kaoNjhIjha, kAraNa kI yAta AdhAra kiMvA itara koNatyAhI vastucI garaja nasate. praznakartA : AmhI jo bijhanesa karata asato, tyAlA iphekTa mhaNatAta kA? dAdAzrI : iphekTaca mhaNatAta nA ! bijhanesa hA iphekTaca Ahe. parIkSecA pariNAma yeto, tyAta kAhI karAve lAgate kA? parIkSeta karAve lAgate, tyAsa kaoNjhIjha mhaNatAta. kAhItarI karAve lAgate, paraMtu tehI pariNAmAmadhye kAhI karAve lAgate kA? praznakartA : nAhI. dAdAzrI : azA prakAre yAta kAhI karAve lAgata nAhI. he sarva hotaca rAhate. Apale zarIra vagaire vAparale jAte ANi sarva hotaca rAhate, kaoNjhamadhye tara svata:lA karAve lAgate. kartAbhAva he kaoNja Ahe. itara sarvakAhI iphekTa Ahe. bhoktAbhAva he kaoNja Ahe. praznakartA : je bhAva Aheta te sarva kaoNjhIjha, barobara. dAdAzrI : ho, jithe dusar2yA koNAcyAhI madatIcI garaja bhAsata nAhI. tumhI svayaMpAka banavatA pharsTa klAsa, to sarva iphekTa Ahe. ANi tyAta tumhI Ata bhAva karatA kI, 'mI kitI chAna svayaMpAka banavalA, kitI chAna kelA.' hA bhAva to tumacA kaoNjha. jara bhAva kelA nAhI tara sarva iphekTaca Ahe. aikU zakato, pAhU zakato, he sarva iphekTsa Aheta. kaoNjhIjhalA pAhatA yeta nAhI.
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________________ karmAce vijJAna 15 praznakartA : tara pAca indriyAMnI je hote to sarva iphekTa Ahe kA? dAdAzrI : ho, te sarva iphekTa Ahe. saMpUrNa AyuSyaca iphekTa Ahe. ANi tyAta Ata je bhAva hota asatAta te bhAva kaoNjha Ahe ANi bhAvAcA kartA asalA pAhije. jagAtIla loka, te tara kartA Ahetaca. karma bAMdhaNyAce thAMbale mhaNaje pUrNa jhAle. he tumhAlA samajate Ahe kA? tumace karma bAMdhaNyAce thAMbale jAta asela? ase kadhI tarI pAhile kA? zubhamadhye paDAla tara zubha bAMdhale jAIla, nAhI tara azubha tara asateca. karma soDataca nAhI! ANi 'svataH koNa Ahe, he sarva koNa karato' he jANUna ghetalyAnaMtara karma bAMdhale jANAraca nAhI nA ! pahile karma kazAprakAre Ale? praznakartA : karmAcyA thiyarInusAra karma bAMdhalI jAtAta ANi tyAcA pariNAma naMtara bhogAvA lAgato. AtAca tumhI azAprakAre kaoNjha ANi iphekTa baddala sAMgitale. jara AdhI kaoNjha naMtara tyAcI iphekTa asate he jara ApaNa tarkadRSTIne vicAra kelA ANi mAge mAge jAta rAhilo tara asA prazna paDato kI, sarvAta prathama kaoNjha kazAprakAre Ale asela? dAdAzrI : anAdita prathama ase kAhI nasate nA ! hI golAkAra mALa pAhilI Ahe kA tumhI? he suryanArAyaNa phiratAta tara tyAcI surUvAta kuThUna karata asatIla? praznakartA : tyAMcI surUvAtaca nAhI. dAdAzrI : mhaNaje hyA jagAcI surUvAta koNatyAhI jAgI jhAlelI nAhI. pUrNa golaca Ahe. rAunDaca Ahe. paNa yAtUna suTakA Ahe. yAcI biginiMga (suruvAta) nAhI ! AtmA Ahe mhaNUna suTakA hoU zakate. paraMtu tyAcI biginiMga nAhI. sarvaca gola Ahe, pratyeka goSTa gola Ahe. koNatIhI goSTa caukonI nAhI. caukona asela tara tyAlA ApaNa mhaNU zakalo asato kI hyA kopar2yApAsUna surUvAta jhAlI Ahe ANi hyA kopar2yAlA tI saMpate. gola AkArAta tara koparA nasatoca ? saMpUrNa jagaca gola Ahe, yAta buddhi kAma karU zakela azI nAhI. mhaNUna buddhilA
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________________ karmAce vijJAna sAMgAyace, cUpacApa basa, ekA kopar2yAta. buddhi pohacU zakela azI nAhI. jJAnAneca samajela ase Ahe. 16 aMDe pahile kI koMbaDI. mUrkhA, Theva nA bAjUlA. AtA he bAjUlA TheUna dusarI puDhacI goSTa kara nA ! nAhI tara punhA punhA aMDe ANi koMbaDI vhAve lAgela. paNa hA tyAlA soDaNAra nAhI. jyAce samAdhAna hota nAhI te sarva gola Ahe. Apale loka mhaNatAta nA kI hA bhAU golagola goSTI phiravato ! praznakartA : tarI suddhA hA prazna rAhatoca kI janmA agodara karma kuThUna Ale? caur2yAMzI lAkha phere surU jhAle. he pApa-puNya kuThUna va kevhApAsUna surU jhAle. dAdAzrI : anAdipAsUna. praznakartA : tyAcI kAhItarI surUvAta tara asela nA? dAdAzrI : jevhApAsUna buddhI surU jhAlI nA tevhApAsUna surUvAta jhAlI ANi buddhI jevhA saMpate tevhA tethe pUrNa hote, samajale nA? bAkI Ahe tara anAdipAsUna ! praznakartA : hI jI buddhI Ahe tI koNI dilI? dAdAzrI : koNa deNArA Ahe? variSTha koNIca nAhI nA ! variSTha dusarA kuNIhI nAhI. koNI deNArA asela tara maga to variSTha jhAlA. variSTha TharalA mhaNaje to kAyama ApalyA mAthI rAhIla. maga jagAta mokSa uraNAraca nAhI. jethe variSTha asela tethe mokSa asela kA? praznakartA: paraMtu sarvAta pahile koNate karma jhAle ? jyAcyAmuLe he zarIra miLAle? dAdAzrI : he zarIra tara koNIhI dilele nAhI. hI sarva sahA tattve ekatra AlyAmuLe, te samorAsamora joDale gelyAmuLe 'tyAlA' hyA sarva avasthA utpanna jhAlyA Aheta. arthAta zarIra miLAlele hI nAhI. he tara tase tumhAlA disate tI cuka Ahe. bhrAMtImuLe tase disate. hI bhrAMtI gelI nA, tara
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________________ karmAce vijJAna 17 kAhIca uraNAra nAhI. he je tumhI 'mI caMdUbhAU Ahe', ase samajatA tyAmuLe he sarva ubhe rAhile Ahe. karma eka janmAce kI aneka janmAMce? praznakartA : hI sarva jI karma Aheta tI ekAca janmAta bhogUna pUrNa hota nAhIta. mhaNUnaca aneka janma ghyAve lAgatAta nA, tyAlA bhogaNyAsAThI. joparyaMta karma purNa hota nAhIta toparyaMta mokSa kuThe Ahe? dAdAzrI : mokSAcI goSTaca kuThe uralI, paraMtu tyA janmAcI karma jevhA pUrNa hotAta tevhAca tara deha suTato. ANi toparyaMta Ata navIna karma bAMdhalIca gelelI asatAta. mhaNaje mokSAcI goSTa karaNyAsArakhI rAhIlIca kuThe? junI, dusarI mAgacI karma yeta nAhIta. tumhI AtA suddhA karmaca bAMdhata AhAta. AtA tumhI hI goSTa karata AhAta nA, tyAveLI suddhA puNyakarma bAMdhata AhAta. puNyAnubaMdhI puNyakarma bAMdhata AhAta. karato koNa ANi bhogato koNa? praznakartA : dAdA, mAgIla janmAta jI karma kelI tI yA janmAta bhogAvI lAgatAta, tara mAgIla janmAta jyA dehAne bhogale to deha tara lAkaDAta jaLUna gelA, AtmA tara nirvikAra svarUpa Ahe, to AtmA dusarA deha gheUna yeto, paNa hyA dehAlA mAgIla dehAne kelele karma kazAsAThI bhogAyace? dAdAzrI : tyA dehAne kelelI karma tara to deha bhogUna jhAlyAnaMtaraca saMpato. praznakartA : tara? dAdAzrI : he tara (manAta) rekhATalele, te mAnasika karma. sUkSma karma. mhaNaje jyAlA ApaNa kaoNjhala baoNDI mhaNato nA, kaoNjhIjha. praznakartA : barobara Ahe, paNa tyA dehAne bhAva kelele nA? dAdAzrI : dehAne bhAva kelele nAhIta. praznakartA : tara?
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________________ karmAce vijJAna dAdAzrI : dehAne tara tyAce svata:ce phaLa bhogale nA! dona thobADIta mAralyA mhaNaje dehAlA phaLa miLUnaca jAte. paNa je tyAcyA yojaneta hote teca AtA rUpakamadhye Ale. praznakartA : ho, paNa yojanA koNI kelI? tyA dehAne yojanA kelI nA? dAdAzrI : dehAlA tara kAhI gheNe-deNe nAhI! basa, phakta ahaMkAraca karato he sarva. hyA janmAce hyA janmAta? praznakartA : hyA sarva karmAMcI phaLaM ApalyAlA hyA janmAtaca bhogAyacI kI maga puDhIla janmAtahI bhogAvI lAgatAta? dAdAzrI : mAgacyA janmAta je karma kele hote, te yojaneta hote mhaNaje kAgadAvara lihilelI yojanA. te AtA rUpaka rUpAne yete, phaLa deNyAsAThI sanmukha hote, tevhA tyAsa prArabdha mhaNatAta. kitI kALAne paripakva hote? tara pannAsa, paMcAhattara, zaMbhara varSAMnI paripakva hota asate, tevhA phaLa deNyAsAThI sanmukha hote. arthAta mAgIla janmI karma bAMdhale, te kityeka varSAMnI paripakva hotAta, tevhA maga hyA janmAta phaLa detAta ANi te phaLa dete veLI jagAtIla loka kAya mhaNatAta kI yAMnI karma bAMdhale. ekA mANasAne ekhAdyA vyaktIlA dona thobADIta mAralyA, tyAvara jagAtIla loka kAya mhaNatAta, kI hyAne karma bAMdhale. koNate karma bAMdhale? tevhA mhaNatAta, 'dona thobADIta mAralyA.' tyAlA tyAce phaLa bhogAve lAgela. te (phaLa) yethe parata miLateca, kAraNa kI thobADIta mAralyA, paraMtU thobADIta khANArA Aja DhilA paDalA, paNa tyAlA jevhA saMdhI miLela tevhA to vaira vasUla kelyAzivAya rAhaNAra nAhI nA! yAlAca loka mhaNatIla kI pahA karmAce phaLa bhogale nA zevaTI! yAlAca mhaNatAta ithalyA ithe phaLa bhogale.' paNa ApaNa tyAlA sAMgAyace kI tujhI goSTa kharI Ahe. yAce phaLa bhogAyace Ahe, paraMtu tyAne dona thobADIta kA mAralyA? te koNatyA AdhArAvara?
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________________ karmAce vijJAna tyAcA AdhAra (kAraNa) tyAlA sApaData nAhI. to tara mhaNela kI tyAneca mArale. he tara tyAlA udayakarma nAcavate. arthAta mAge je karma kele Ahe, te nAcavate tyAlA. praznakartA : hI jI thobADIta mAralI te karmAce phaLa Ahe, karma nAhI, he barobara Ahe nA? dAdAzrI : hoya, te karma phaLa Ahe. mhaNaje udayakarma tyAcyAkaDUna ase karavita asate mhaNUna to dona thobADIta mArato. maga to mAra khANArA kAya mhaNato, kI 'bhAU, ajUna eka-dona lagAvUna de nA!' tevhA to kAya mhaNela, 'malA kAya akkala nAhI? mUrkha Ahe kA mI!' ulaTa rAgAvato. tyAlA je mArale tyAcyAmAge kAraNa Ahe, doghAMcA hizoba asato ANi tyA hizobAcyA bAhera kAhIca ghaData nAhI. arthAta he jaga hizobI Ahe, eka eka ANA-paIcA hizoba Ahe mhaNUna ghAbaraNyAsArakhe he jaga nAhIca, nivAMtapaNe jhopUna jANyAsArakhe Ahe. tarI suddhA agadI nIDara paNa hoU naye kI malA kAhI hoNAra nAhI. karmaphaLa-lokabhASeta, jJAnIMcyA bhASeta praznakartA : sarva ithalyA ithe bhogAyace Ahe ase mhaNatAta, te kAya khoTe Ahe kA? dAdAzrI : bhogAyace ithalyA itheca Ahe paNa te yA jagAcyA bhASeta. alaukika bhASeta yAcA artha kAya hoto? mAgIla janmAta karma ahaMkArAce, mAnAce bAMdhalele asela, mhaNUna yA janmAta tyAcyA sarva bilDiMga bAMdhalyA jAta asatIla, tara tyAmuLe to mAnI banato. kazAmuLe mAnI banato? karmAcyA hizobAne to mAnI banato. AtA to mAnI jhAlA mhaNUna tyAlA jagAtIla loka kAya mhaNatAta kI, hA jo evaDhA mAna karato Ahe nA tyAmuLe karma bAMdhato Ahe. jagAce loka yAsa karma mhaNatAta. paraMtu bhagavaMtAcyA bhASeta tara he karmAce phaLa Ale Ahe. phaLa mhaNaje mAna karAyacA nasela tarIhI karAvAca lAgato, hotoca. ANi jagAtIla loka jyAlA mhaNatAta kI hA krodha karato, mAna
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________________ 20 karmAce vijJAna karato, ahaMkAra karato, tevhA tyAce phaLa ithalyA itheca bhogAve lAgate. mAna kelyAce phaLa ithalyA ithe kase yete kI, apakirtI pasarate, apayaza yete, te itheca bhogAve lAgate. mAna karata asatAnA jara manAta ase vATata asela kI, he cukIce ghaDate Ahe, ase hoU naye. ApalyAlA mAna vilaya karAyacI garaja Ahe, ase bhAva yeta asatIla tara te navIna karma bAMdhato Ahe. tyAmuLe puDhIla janmAta maga mAna kamI hoto. karmAcI thiyarI azI Ahe. cukIce karata asatAnA jara AtIla bhAva badalale gele tara navIna karma navIna bhAvApramANe bAMdhale jAte. paNa jara cukIce karUna ulaTa varUna Ata khuza hota asela kI, 'ase karaNyAsArakheca Ahe' tara maga navIna karma majabUta hote, nikAcita hote. te maga bhogalyA naMtaraca suTakA! saMpUrNa sAyansaca samajUna gheNyAsArakhe Ahe. vItarAgAMce vijJAna khUpa guhya Ahe. ...kI hyA janmAce puDhIla janmAta? praznakartA : tara kAya hyA janmAta kelelyA karmAce phaLa puDhIla janmAta miLU zakate? dAdAzrI : ho, hyA janmAta miLata nAhI. praznakartA : tara AtA hyA janmAta AmhI je bhogata Ahota te mAgIla janmAce phaLa Ahe kA? dAdAzrI : hoya, te mAgIla janmAce Ahe ANi tyAcyA sobata nave karma puDhIla janmAsAThI bAMdhale jAta Ahe. mhaNUna tumhI nave karma cAMgale karAyalA have. he tara AtA bighaDalele Ahe paNa puDhIla bighaDU naye tyAsAThI jAgRta rahAyalA have. praznakartA : AtA kaliyuga cAlU Ahe. kaliyugAcyA prabhAvAmuLe sadhyAcA manuSya cAMgale karma tara karU zakata nAhI. dAdAzrI : cAMgalyA karmAMcI garaja nAhI.
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________________ karmAce vijJAna praznakartA : tara kazAcI garaja Ahe? dAdAzrI : Ata sadbhAvanecI garaja Ahe. cAMgale karma tara jara prArabdha cAMgale asela tara hoU zakela. nAhI tara nAhI hoU zakaNAra. paNa cAMgalI bhAvanA tara hoU zakate, jarI prArabdha cAMgale nasela tarIhI. vAITa karmAce phaLa kevhA? praznakartA : cAMgale kiMvA vAITa karmAce phaLa hyAca janmAta kiMvA puDhIla janmAta bhogAve lAgate, tara tase jIva mokSagatI kazAprakAre prApta karU zakatIla? dAdAzrI : karmAce phaLa nukasAna karata nAhI. karmAce bIja nukasAna karatAta. mokSAta jANyAsAThI karmabIja TAkAyace baMda jhAle kI karmaphaLa tyAlA aDathaLA nirmANa karU zakata nAhI, karmabIja aDathaLA nirmANa karatAta. bIja kazAmuLe aDavatAta? kAraNa kI tu bIja TAkale Ahe mhaNUna AtA tu tyAcA svAda cAkhUna jA, tyAce phaLa tu cAkhUna jA. cAkhalyAzivAya jAU zakata nAhI. arthAta te (karmabIja) aDavaNAre Aheta. bAkI he karmaphaLa aDavaNAre nAhIta. phaLa tara mhaNate kI tu tujhyA parIne khAUna nighUna jA. praznakartA : paNa ApaNa sAMgitale hote kI, eka TakkA jarI karma kele asela tarI te bhogAveca lAgate? dAdAzrI : hoya, bhogalyAnaMtaraca suTakA, bhogalyA zivAya cAlata nAhI. karmAce phaLa bhogata asatAnAhI mokSa hoIla asA suddhA mArga asato. paraMtu karma bAMdhatAnA mokSa hota nAhI. kAraNa kI jara karma bAMdhale jAta asatIla tara tyAce phaLa khAyalA ajUna rahAve lAgela nA! praznakartA : ApaNa je cAMgale vAITa karma karato. te hyAca janmAta bhogAyace asate kI puDhIla janmAta. dAdAzrI : loka pAhatAta kI yAne vAITa karma kele. yAne corI kelI, yAne phasavaNUka kelI, yAne dhokA dilA, he sarva itheca bhogAyace ANi yA karmAmuLeca Ata rAga-dveSa utpanna hotAta. tyAce phaLa puDhIla janmAta bhogAyace.
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________________ karmAce vijJAna pratyeka janma mAgIla janmAce sAra praznakartA : AtA jI karma Aheta, tI anaMta janmAMcI Aheta? dAdAzrI : pratyeka janma, anaMta janmAMcyA sAra rUpAne asato. sarva janmAMce ekatra jamA hota nAhI. kAraNa kI niyama asA Ahe kI paripakva kALAta phaLa pikaleca pAhije, nAhItara kitItarI karma bAkI rAhatIla. praznakartA : he sarva mAgIla janmAsobata joDalele Ahe nA? dAdAzrI : ho, tyAce ase Ahe kI ekA janmAta dona kAmaM karU zakata nAhI, kaoNjhIjha ANi iphekTa donhI ekAca veLI karU zakata nAhI. kAraNa kI, kaoNjhIjha ANi iphekTa yA doghAMcI mudata ekatra hoNe he kase kAya zakya Ahe? mudata pUrNa jhAlyAnaMtara kaoNjhIjha iphekTIva hotAta. mudata pUrNa jhAlyAzivAya he zakya hota nAhI. jase kI AMbyAce jhADa asate, tara tyAlA mohara AlyA naMtara evaDhIzI kairI yete. tilA pikaNyAsa veLa lAgato kI nAhI? ApaNa dusar2yA divazI tI kairI lavakara pikAvI asA navasa jarI kelA, tarI tI pikela kA? mhaNaje ApaNa je karma bAMdhata asato tyAlA paripakva hoNyAsAThI zaMbhara varSe havIta. tevhA te phaLa deNyAsAThI sanmukha hote. praznakartA : arthAt yA janmAce je karma Ahe te zevaTacyA janmAceca asatAta kI mAgIla anaMta janmAMce asatAta? dAdAzrI : nAhI, ase nasate yA nisargAce. nisarga tara khUpa zuddha Ahe. vyApAr2yAMnA suddhA azI paddhata jamaNAra nAhI, azI suMdara paddhata Ahe! AjapAsUna dahAvyA janmAta jI karma jhAlI asatIla tyAMcA hizoba kADhUna to naphA-toTA puDhe khecUna ANalA jAto, navavyA janmAta. AtA tyAta sarva karma yeNAra nAhIta tara phakta tALebaMdhI (hizoba) kADhUna karma yetAta. navavyAmadhUna AThavyAta, AThavyAmadhUna sAtavyAta. azA prakAre Ata jitakyA varSAMce AyuSya asela titakyAca varSAce karma asatAta. paNa te tazyA rUpAne Ata yetAta, paraMtu te ekA janmAceca mhaTale jAIla. dona janmAMce ekatra ase mhaNU zakata nAhI. karma ase asatAta kI te paripakva hoNyAsAThI veLa lAgato. kAhI
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________________ karmAce vijJAna lokAMce pAcaze varSAta, hajAra-hajAra varSAta paripakva hotAta. paNa tarI suddhA vahIkhAtyAta te navInaca asatAta. praznakartA : kaeNrI phoravarDa hoUna jAtAta? dAdAzrI : hoya, vahIkhAtyAcI goSTa tumhAlA samajalI? junyA vahIkhAtyAce navIna vahIkhAtyAta yetAta. ANi AtA to bhAU navIna vahIkhAtyAta yeNAra, kAhIhI bAkI rAhilyAzivAya. arthAta he kaoNjhIjha rUpAne karma bAMdhale jAte te iphekTiva kevhA hote? pannAsa-sATha - paMcyAhattara varSe nighUna gelyAnaMtara te phaLa deNyAsAThI iphekTiva hote. yA sarvAMcA saMcAlaka koNa? 23 praznakartA : tara he sarva koNa cAlavato? dAdAzrI : karmAcA niyama asA Ahe kI, tumhI je karma karatA tyAcA pariNAma ApoApa naisargika rityA yeto. praznakartA : he karmAce phaLa ApalyAlA bhogAve lAgate. te koNa nakkI karato ? koNa bhogAyalA lAvato ? dAdAzrI : nakkI karaNyAcI garajaca nAhI karma 'iTaselpha' (svata:ca) karata rAhatAta. ApoApaca hota asate. praznakartA : tara maga karmAcyA niyamAlA koNa cAlavato ? dAdAzrI : 2 H ANi 0 ekatra jhAlyAmuLe pAUsa paDato, hA karmAcA niyama praznakartA : paraMtu koNItarI banavilA asela nA, to niyama ? dAdAzrI : niyama koNI banavata nAhI. banavilA tara maga to mAlaka Tharela. kuNAlAhI banaviNyAcI garaja nAhI. iTaselpha pajhala jhAlele Ahe ANi te vijJAnAcyA niyamAne hote. tyAlA AmhI ' onlI sAyanTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDansa' ne he jaga cAlate ase mhaNato. tyAsa AmhI gujarAtI madhye mhaTale Ahe, 'vyavasthita zakti' jI jagAlA cAlavate.
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________________ 24 Ahe? karmAce vijJAna 'vyavasthita zakti' ANi karma praznakartA : ApaNa je 'vyavasthita zakti' mhaNata AhAta te karmAnusAra dAdAzrI : jaga kAhI karmAne cAlata nAhI. jagAlA 'vyavasthita zakti' cAlavate. tumhAlA yethe koNa gheUna Ale Ahe? karma? nAhI. tumhAlA 'vyavasthita zakti' gheUna AlI Ahe. karma tara tumacyA Ata paDaleleca hote. maga te tumhAlA kAla kA nAhI ghevUna Ale ANi Ajaca kA gheUna Ale? 'vyavasthita zakti' kALAlA ekatra karate. bhAva ekatra karate. sarvaca saMyoga ekatra Ale, tyAmuLe tumhI yethe AlAta. karma tara 'vyavasthita' cA eka aMza Ahe. he tara saMyoga juLatAta tevhA mhaNato, 'mI kele' ANi saMyoga juLata nAhI tevhA? phaLa miLate oNTomeTika praznakartA : karmAce phaLa jara koNI dusar2yAne dile tara maga te karmaca jhAle nA? dAdAzrI : karmAce phaLa dusarA koNI detaca nAhI. karmAce phaLa deNArA koNI janmAlA AlAca nAhI. ithe phakta DhekUna mAraNyAce auSadha pyAyale tara marUnaca jANAra, tyAta phaLa deNyAsAThI dusar2yA koNAcIhI garaja lAgata nAhI. phaLa deNArA koNI asatA tara khUpa moThe oNphIsa banavAve lAgale asate. he tara sAyanTiphika paddhatIne cAlate. tyAta koNAcI garajaca nAhI ! tyAce karma jevhA paripakva hote tevhA phaLa yevUna ubhe rAhateca. svata:hUna, ApoApa. jase hyA kaccyA kair2yA svata:hUnaca pikatAta nA ! pikatAta kI nAhI? praznakartA : ho, ho. dAdAzrI : AMbyAcyA jhADAvara pikata nAhI kA? tI jazI pikate nA, tazAca prakAre he karma paripakva hote. tyAcI veLa yete nA tevhA paripakva hoUna phaLa deNyAsa lAyaka banate.
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________________ karmAce vijJAna praznakartA : mAgacyA janmI AmhI jI karma bAMdhalI tyAce hyA janmAta phaLa Ale, tara karmAcA hA sagaLA hizoba koNa Thevato? tyAcI vahIkhAte koNa Thevato? dAdAzrI : thaMDI paDate tevhA pAIpacyA Ata je pANI asate tyAcA barpha koNa banavato? te tara thaMDa vAtAvaraNa jhAle mhaNUna. onlI sAyanTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDansa! he sarva karma-birma karatAta, tyAce phaLa yete tehI eviDansa Ahe. tulA bhUka kazAmuLe lAgate? sarva sAyanTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDansa Ahe. tyAcyAmuLe he sarva cAlate! karmaphaLAta 'oNrDara' cA AdhAra praznakartA : koNatyA oNDara (krama) madhye karmAce phaLa yete? jyA oNDaramadhye te bAMdhale gele asela, tyAca oNDarapramANe tyAce phaLa yete? mhaNaje pahile he karma bAMdhale gele, tyAnaMtara he karma bAMdhale gele, naMtara he karma bAMdhale gele. pahilyA naMbara vara he karma bAMdhale gele tara tyAcA DiscArja paNa pahilyA naMbaravaraca yeNAra. naMtara dusar2yA naMbara vara he karma bAMdhale gele, tara tyAcA DiscArja, dusar2yA naMbaravaraca yeNAra, ase Ahe? dAdAzrI : nAhI, ase nAhI. praznakartA : tara maga kase Ahe? he jarA samajAvUna sAMgA. dAdAzrI : nAhI, ase nAhI. te sarva tyAcyA svabhAvApramANe seTa (mAMDaNI) hoUna jAte kI he divasA bhogaNyAce karma, he rAtrI bhogaNyAce karma, ase he sarva... seTa hoUna jAte. he duHkhAta bhogaNyAce karma, he sukhAta bhogaNyAce karma, ase seTa hote. azyA prakAre tyAcI sarva mAMDaNI hote. praznakartA : hI mAMDaNI koNatyA AdhArAvara hote? dAdAzrI : svabhAvAcyA AdhArAvara. he je ApaNa sarva ekatra jamato, te tara sarvAMce svabhAva miLate-juLate asalyAmuLeca ekatra jamato, nAhI tara jamaNAra nAhI.
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________________ 26 karmAce vijJAna kevaLa jJAnAtaca he disate praznakartA : he karma nave Ahe kI june Ahe he kazA prakAre disate? dAdAzrI : karma kele kI nAhI kele, he tara koNIhI pAhU zakata nAhI. he tara bhagavaMta kI jyAMnA kevaLajJAna Ahe teca jANU zakatAta. hyA jagAta jI karma tumhAlA disatAta, tyAta ekA rAI evaDhe karma paNa navIna nAhI Ahe. hyA karmAMce jara jJAtA - dRSTA rAhilAta tara nave karma bAMdhale jANAra nAhI ANi jara tanmayAkAra ( ekAkAra) jhAlAta tara nave karma bAMdhale jAtIla. AtmajJAnI jhAlyAnaMtaraca karma bAMdhalI jAta nAhIta. hyA jagAta AtmA disata nAhI, karmahI disata nAhIta paNa karmaphaLa disate. lokAMnA karmaphaLa yete tevhA tyAta goDI vATate mhaNUna tyAta tanmayAkAra hotAta, tyAmuLe bhogAve lAgate. AtA kuThUna Ale mele? praznakartA : puSkaLa veLA ase hote kI, ApaNa azubha karma bAMdhata asato ANi tyAveLI bAherIla udaya zubha karmAcA asato ? dAdAzrI : ho, ase hota asate. AtA tumacA zubha karmAcA udaya asela paNa Ata tumhI azubha karma bAMdhata asAla. tumhI bAhera gAvAhUna ithe zaharAta Ale asAla ANi rAtrI uzIra jhAlA asela tara Ata vicAra yeto kI AtA ApaNa kuThe jhopaNAra? maga tumhI mhaNatA kI ithe mAjhA eka mitra rAhato, tethe ApaNa jAUyA. mhaNaje te cAra jaNa va pAcave tumhI, sADe akarA vAjatA tyA mitrAcyA gharI jAUna daravAjA ThoThAvatA. to vicArato, koNa Ahe? tevhA tumhI sAMgatA 'mI Ahe.' tevhA to mhaNato, 'ughaDato.' daravAjA ughaDalyAvara to tumhAlA kAya mhaNato? pAca jaNAMnA baghato, tumhAlA ekaTyAlA baghata nAhI, tara sobata cAra-pAca jaNAMnA baghato, tyAvara tumhAlA kAya mhaNela? 'parata jA' ase mhaNela kA? 'yA yA tumace svAgata Ahe !' ApalyAkaDe tara sarva khAnadAnI mANasaM, 'yA yA svAgata Ahe!' ase boluna gharAta ghetAta.
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________________ karmAce vijJAna 27 praznakartA : to ase suddhA mhaNela kI, 'kevhA AlAta ANi kevhA parata jANAra Ahe?' dAdAzrI : nAhI, khAnadAnI mANasaM ase bolata nasatAta. te tara 'yA yA svAgata Ahe tumace' ase bolUna basavUna ghetAta, paNa tyAMcyA manAta kAya cAlalele asate? kI AtA kuThUna Ale mele! he bAMdhale karma. tase karaNyAcI garaja nAhI. te Ale Aheta, tyAMcA hizoba aseparyaMta rAhaNAra. naMtara nighUna jANAra. tyAne hA jo zahANapaNA kelA kI, 'AtA kuThUna Ale mele' te bAMdhale karma. AtA jevhA he karma bAMdhale tevhA malA vicAruna ghyAyace kI, 'mAjhyAkaDUna ase ghaData asate, tyAvara mI kAya karu?' tevhA mI sAMgela kI, tyAveLI kRSNa bhagavaMtAlA mAnata asAla, kiMvA jyAMnA mAnata asAla, tyAMce nAMva manAta smaruna, he bhagavaMtA! mAjhI cuka jhAlI, azI cuka punhA karaNAra nAhI', azA prakAre mAphI mAgAla tara sarva pusale jAIla. bAMdhalele karma lagecaca pusale jAIla. jo paryaMta patra posTAta TAkale jAta nAhI, to paryaMta te (patrAtIla majakUra) badalU zakato. posTAta TAkale arthAta hA deha suTalA, maga karma bAMdhale gele. mhaNUna hA deha suTaNyApUrvI tumhI te sarva pusUna TAkale tara te pusale jAIla. AtA tyAne eka karma tara bAMdhale nA? ANi punhA to tumhAlA kAya vicArato? are mitrA, jarA thoDIzI, thoDIzI...? kAya vicArato 'jarA thoDIzI'? mhaNaje cahA kiMvA kaoNphI ase kAhIca spaSTa bolata nAhI, paNa tumhI samajUna jAtA kI, cahAsAThI sAMgata Ahe. paNa to mhaNato 'jarA thoDI thoDI...' tevhA tumhI sAMgatA, AtA rAhU dyA nA cahA-pANI! khicaDI-kaDhI asela tara cAlela!' tevhA Ata svayaMpAkagharAta tumacI bAyako ciDate. tyAmuLeca sarva karma bAMdhalI jAtAta. AtA tyAveLI nisargAcA niyama Ahe kI to pAhuNA hizobAnusAra AlA Ahe, tyAmuLe tyAcyAsAThI bhAva bighaDavU nakA. azA prakAre jara niyamAta rAhilAta ANi bhale je kAhI tumacyAkaDe asela, khicaDI-kaDhI je kAhI asela te vADhA. pAhuNe ase mhaNata nAhIta kI AmhAlA tumhI bAsuMdI khAyalA dyA. khicaDI-kaDhI, bhAjI je kAhI asela te vADhA. paNa maga hA tara svata:cI ijjata jAvU naye mhaNUna, khicaDI-kaDhI vADhata nAhI, tara zirA vagaire vADhato. paNa Ata manAta mAtra zivyA deto. AtA kuThUna Ale mele! tyAce nAva karma. arthAta ase vhAyalA nako.
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________________ karmAce vijJAna mhaNUna bighaDavU nakA bhAva kadhI praznakartA : puNyakarma ANi pApakarma kase bAMdhale jAtAta? dAdAzrI : dusar2yAMnA sukha deNyAcA bhAva kelyAmuLe puNya bAMdhale jAte ANi duHkha deNyAcA bhAva kelyAmuLe pApa bAMdhale jAte. mAtra bhAva kelyAmuLeca karma bAMdhale jAte, kriyA kelyAne nAhI. kriyeta tase asela kiMvA naselahI, paNa Ata jase bhAva asatIla tase karma bAMdhale jAte. mhaNUna bhAva bighaDavU nakA. koNatehI kArya svArtha bhAvanene kele tara pApakarma bAMdhale jAte ANi niHsvArtha bhAvanene kelyAvara puNyakarma bAMdhale jAte. paNa donhIhI karmaca Aheta nA! puNya karmAce je phaLa Ahe te mhaNaje sonyAcI beDI ANi pApa karmAce phaLa Ahe te mhaNaje lokhaMDAcI beDI. paNa donhI suddhA beDyAca Aheta nA? sthULakarma : sukSmakarma ekA zeThane pannAsa hajAra rUpayAMce dAna dile. tevhA tyAcyA mitrAne zeThajIMnA vicArale, 'evaDhe paise deUna TAkaleta?' tevhA zeTha mhaNAle, 'mI tara eka paisAhI deIla asA nAhI. he tara tyA meyaracyA dabAvAmuLe dyAve lAgale.' tara hayAce phaLa tithe kAya miLela? pannAsa hajAra dAna dile te sthULakarma. tyAce phaLa tyAlA ithalyA ithe miLUna jAte. te mhaNaje loka tyA zeThacI 'vAha vAha' karUna stutI karatAta. kirtIce guNagAna gAtAta. paraMtu zeThane Ata, sUkSmakarmAta kAya cArja kele? tara, 'eka paisAhI deIla asA mI nAhI.' tyAce phaLa tyAlA puDhIla janmAta miLela, tevhA puDhIla janmAta zeTha ekA paizAcehI dAna deU zakaNAra nAhI. AtA evaDhI sukSma goSTa koNAlA samajela? tyA ThikANI dusarA koNI garIba asela, tyAcyAkaDe suddhA heca loka dAna mAgaNyAsa gele asatIla, tevhA to garIba mANUsa kAya mhaNato kI, 'mAjhyA javaLa AtA pAcaca rUpaye Aheta te sagaLeca tumhI ghyA. paNa AtA jara mAjhyA javaLa pAca lAkha rUpaye asate tara te sarvaca dile asate.' ase
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________________ karmAce vijJAna to hRdayApAsUna sAMgato. AtA yA garIbAne pAcaca rUpaye dAna dile. te DiscArjamadhye karmaphaLa Ale. paNa Ata sukSmAta kAya cArja kele? pAca lAkha rUpaye deNyAce, mhaNUna to puDhIla janmAta pAca lAkha deU zakela, karma DiscArja hoIla tevhA. eka mANUsa nehamI dAna deta asela, dharmAcI bhakti karata asela, maMdirAta paise deta asela, saMpUrNa divasa dharma karata asela, tyAlA jagAtIla loka kAya mhaNatIla kI, hA dharmiSTha Ahe. AtA tyA mANasAcyA manAta kAya vicAra yeta asatAta kI, kazAprakAre (paisA) jamA karU va kazAprakAre upabhoga gheU! tyAcyA manAta mAtra binahakkAcI lakSmI luTaNyAcI khupa icchA hota asate. binahakkAce viSaya vikAra bhogUna gheNyAsAThI suddhA to tayAraca asato! mhaNUna bhagavaMta tyAcA ekahI paisA jamA karIta nAhIta. tyAce kAya kAraNa Ahe? tyAce kAraNa heca kI, dAna-dharma-kriyA hI sarva sthULakarma Aheta. hyA sthULakarmAce phaLa ithalyA itheca miLata asate. loka tara yA sthULakarmAMnAca puDhIla janmAce karma mAnatAta. paNa tyAce phaLa tara ithalyA itheca miLata asate paraMtu sukSmakarma je Atamadhye bAMdhale jAta Ahe, tyAcI tara lokAMnA khabaraca nasate. tyAce phaLa puDhIla janmAta miLate. Aja ekhAdyA mANasAne corI kelI, corI kelI he sthULakarma Ahe. tyAce phaLa tyAlA hyA janmAtaca miLate. jase kI, tyAlA apayaza miLate, polIsavAlA mArato vagaire, te sarva phaLa tyAlA ithalyA itheca miLaNAra... mhaNaje Aja je sthULakarma disatAta, sthULa AcAra disatAta te 'tithe' kAmI yeNAra nAhI... 'tithe' tara sukSmabhAva kAya Ahe? sukSmakarma kAya Aheta? evaDheca 'tithe' upayogI paDate. Aja he jaga saMpUrNa sthULakarmAvaraca eDajasTa jhAlele Ahe. he sAdhu-saMnyAsI sarvajaNa tyAga karatAta, tapa karatAta, japa karatAta, paraMtU hI sarva tara sthULakarma Aheta. tyAta sukSmakarma kuThe Ahe? he je disate tyAta puDhIla janmAsAThI sukSmakarma nAhIta. te je sthULakarma karatAta, tyAce yaza tyAMnA itheca miLUna jAte.
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________________ 30 karmAce vijJAna kriyene nAhI paNa dhyAnAneca cArjiMga AcArya mahArAja pratikramaNa karatAta, sAmAyika karatAta, vyAkhyAna detAta, pravacana karatAta, paNa to tara tyAMcA AcAra Ahe, he sthULakarma Ahe. paNa Ata kAya cAlU Ahe te pahAyace Ahe. Ata je cArja hote, te 'tithe upayogI paDela. AtA je AcAra pAlana karatAta, te DiscArja Ahe. saMpUrNa bAhyAcAra (bAhya AcaraNa) DiscArja svarUpaca Ahe. tethe he loka mhaNatAta kI 'mI sAmAyika kele, dhyAna kele, dAna kele.' tara tyAce yaza tulA itheca miLela. tyAta puDhIla janmAce kAya gheNe-deNe? bhagavaMta azI kAhI kaccI mAyA nAhI kI tujhyA azyA ghoTALyAlA cAlavUna ghetIla. bAhera sAmAyika karata asela ANi Ata kAhItarI bhalateca karata asela. eka zeTha sAmAyika karaNyAsAThI basale hote, tevhA bAhera koNItarI daravAjA ThoThAvalA. zeThANIne jAUna daravAjA ughaDalA. tara eka bhAU AlA hotA. tyAne zeThANIlA vicArale 'zeTha kuThe gele Aheta?' tevhA zeThANIne uttara dile 'ukiraDyAvara.' Ata basalelyA tyA zeThane te aikale va tyAMnI tapAsa kelA tara kharokhara manAne zeThajI ukiraDyAvaraca gelele hote! manAta tara kharAba vicAraca cAlU hote, te sukSmakarma ANi bAhera sAmAyika karata hote te sthULakarma. bhagavaMta azA ghoTALyAMnA khapavUna gheta nAhIta. Ata sAmAyika rahAta asela ANi bAhera sAmAyika hota naselahI tarI, tyAcyA 'tithe' cAlela. he bAherace dekhAve 'tithe' cAlatIla ase nAhI. Ata phiravA bhAva ase sthULakarma mhaNaje tulA ekadama rAga AlA, tevhA tulA rAgavAyace nasate paNa tarI suddhA rAga yeto. ase hote kI nAhI hota? praznakartA : hoya, ase hote. dAdAzrI : AtA jo rAga AlA, tyAce phaLa ithalyA ithe tAbaDatoba miLate. loka mhaNatAta kI 'jAU dyA nA tyAlA, to tara Aheca khupa rAgITa.' tyAvara koNI tara tyAlA samorUna thobADIta mArato suddhA. mhaNaje apayazAce kiMvA azyA dusar2yA prakAre tyAlA ithalyA ithe lagecaca phaLa miLate. mhaNaje
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________________ karmAce vijJAna rAga yeNe he sthULakarma Ahe, ANi rAga AlA tyAta AjacA tujhA bhAva kAya Ahe kI rAgAvaleca pAhije. tara to puDhacyA janmAcA punhA rAgAcA hizoba Ahe ANi tujhA AjacA bhAva Ahe kI rAgavale nAhI pAhije. tujhyA manAta nakkI asela kI rAgavAyalA nakoca, tarI suddhA rAgAvale jAta asela tara tulA puDhIla janmAsAThI baMdhana rAhile nAhI. 31 yA sthULakarmAta tulA rAga AlA, tara tyAcA tulA yA janmAta mAra khAvA lAgela. tarI suddhA tulA baMdhana hoNAra nAhI. kAraNa sukSmakarmAta tujhA nizcaya Ahe kI rAgavAyalA nakoca ANi koNI mANUsa koNAvarahI rAgavata nasela, paraMtu manAta bolata asela kI hyA lokAMvara rAgAvale taraca saraLa hotIla azI hI mANasaM Aheta. tyAmuLe to puDhacyA janmAta punhA rAgITa banato ! arthAta bAhera jo krodha karato, te sthULakarma Ahe ANi tyAveLI Ata je bhAva hotAta, te sukSmakarma Ahe. he jara samajale tara sthULakarmAlA kAhIhI baMdhana rAhaNAra nAhI! mhaNUna he sAyansa mI navyA paddhatIne samora Thevale Ahe. AtAparyaMta sthULakarmAne baMdhana Ahe azI mAnyatA jagAtIla lokAMcyA DokyAta ThAsUna basavalI gelI Ahe ANi tyAmuLe loka sArakhe ghAbarata rAhatAta. yA jJAnAne saMsArAsahita mokSa AtA gharAta bAyako asela, lagna kelele asela ANi mokSAlA jAyace asela, tara manAta yeta rAhate kI mI lagna kelele Ahe, tara AtA mI mokSAlA kase kAya jAU zakela? are bAbA, bAyako naData nAhI, tujhI sukSmakarma naDatAta. he tujhe sthULakarma jarA suddhA naData nAhI. he mI ughaDa karUna dile Ahe ANi he vijJAna khule kele nasate, tara Ata bhItI, bhItI ANi bhItIca vATata rAhilI asatI. Ata satata ajaMpo (becainI, azAMtI) rAhate. te sAdhU mhaNatAta kI AmhI mokSAlA jAU. are, tumhI mokSAlA kase kAya jANAra AhAta? kAya soDale pAhije, te tara tumhAlA mAhita nAhI. tumhI tara sthULa soDale. DoLyAMnI disate, kAnAMnA aikU yete te soDale. tyAce phaLa tara yA janmAtaca miLela. he vijJAna navInaca prakArace Ahe, he tara akrama vijJAna Ahe. jyAmuLe yA lokAMnA sarva prakAracI phesIliTI
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________________ karmAce vijJAna (suvidhA) jhAlI Ahe. bAyakolA soDUna paLUna jAtA yete kA? are bAyakolA soDUna paLUna jAyace ANi ApalA mokSa hoNAra, he zakya Ahe kA? koNAlA duHkha deUna ApalA mokSa hoNAra, he zakya Ahe kA? mhaNUna bAyako-mulAMcyA prati asalelI sarvaca kartavye pUrNa karAvI ANi patnI je jevaNa vADhela, te nivAMtapaNe jevA te sarva sthULa Ahe. he samajUna ghyA. sthULacyA mAge tumacA abhiprAya asA asAyalA nako kI jyAmuLe sukSmamadhye cArja hoIla. tyAsAThI mI tumhAlA AjJArUpI pAca vAkye dilI Aheta. Atamadhye asA abhiprAya rahAyalA nako kI he karekTa Ahe. mI je karato, je upabhogato, te karekTa Ahe. Ata asA abhiprAya asAyalA nako. basa evaDhAca tumacA abhiprAya badalalA kI sarvaca badalUna gele. azAprakAre vaLavA mulAMnA mulAMmadhye vAITa guNa asale tara AI-vaDIla tyAMnA rAgavatAta, ANi sAMgata phiratAta kI 'mAjhA mulagA asA Ahe, nAlAyaka Ahe, cora Ahe.' are, to ase karato, tara je kele tyAsa bAjUlA Theva. paNa AtA tyAce bhAva badala nA! tyAce AtIla abhiprAya badala nA! tyAce bhAva kase badalAvayAce te AI-vaDIlAMnA jamata nAhI. kAraNa kI sarTiphAiDa AI-vaDIla nAhIta ANi AI-vaDIla hoUna basale Aheta! mulAlA corI karaNyAcI vAITa savaya lAgalI asela tara AI-vaDIla tyAlA sArakhe rAgavata asatAta. mArata rAhatAta. azAprakAre AI-vaDIla nehamI eksesa (garajepekSA jAsta) bolatAta. eksesa bolalele helpa karata nAhI. maga mulagA kAya karato? to manAta nakkI karato kI 'vATela te bolU de', mI tara aseca karaNAra. tara azAprakAre AI-vaDIla mulAMnA ANakhIna jAsta cora banavatAta. dvApAra, tretA ANi sat yugAta jI hatyAraM hotI, tyAcA vApara AjacyA kaliyugAtIla loka karu lAgale. mulAlA vaLavAyacI paddhata vegaLI Ahe. tyAce bhAva badalAyace Aheta. tyAcyAvara premAne haLUvAra hAta phiravUna tyAlA sAMgAve kI, 'ye beTA, bhale tujhI AI oraDalI, tI oraDela, paNa tu jyAprakAre koNAcI corI kelI tazI koNI tujhyA khizAtUna corI kelI tara tulA sukha vATela kA?' tyAveLI tulA kase duHkha hoIla? tara taseca samoracyA vyaktilAhI duHkha hota
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________________ karmAce vijJAna nasela kA? yApramANe saMpUrNa thiyarI mulAlA samajavAvI lAgate. ekadA tyAcyA manAta pakke ThasAyalA have kI he cukIce Ahe. tumhI tyAlA sArakhe mArata rAhatA, tyAmuLe tara mulagA jiddI banato. arthAta phakta paddhataca badalAvayAcI Ahe. saMpUrNa jaga phakta sthULakarmAlAca samajale Ahe. sukSmakarmAlA samajaleca nAhI. sukSmAlA samajale asate tara hI dazA jhAlI nasatI. 33 cArja ANi DiscArja karma praznakartA: sthULakarma ANi sUkSmakarmAce kartA vegavegaLe Aheta kA? dAdAzrI : donhIce kartA vegaLe Aheta. he je sthULakarma Aheta, te DiscArja karma Ahe. hyA baeNTar2yA asatAta, tyAMnA cArja kelyAnaMtara tyA DiscArja hota rAhatAta nA? ApalyAlA DiscArja karAyace nasale tarI suddhA DiscArja hotaca rAhate nA? praznakartA : hoya. dAdAzrI : azyAca prakAre he sthULakarma paNa DiscArja karma Ahe ANi Ata je navIna cArja hota Ahe te sukSmakarma Ahe. hyA janmAta je cArja hota Ahe te puDhacyA janmI DiscArja hota rAhatIla ANi hyA janmAta mAgacyA janmAcI baeNTarI DiscArja hota rAhilI Ahe, eka manAcI baeNTarI, eka vANIcI baeNTarI ANi eka dehAcI baeNTarI. yA tinhI baeNTar2yA AtA DiscArja hotaca rAhilyA Aheta ANi Ata navIna tIna baeNTar2yA bharalyA jAta Aheta. he bolato Ahe, te tulA ase vATela kI, 'mI' ca bolata Ahe. paNa nAhI, hI tara rekaoNrDa bolata Ahe. hI vANIcI baeNTarI DiscArja hota rAhilI Ahe. mI bolataca nAhI ANi saMpUrNa jagAtIla loka kAya mhaNatIla kI, 'mI kazI goSTa kelI, mI kase bolalo!' he sagaLe kalpita bhAva Aheta, igoijhama (ahaMkAra) Ahe, phakta hA igoijhama gelA tara maga dusare kAya urale? hA igoijhama hIca ajJAnatA Ahe ANi hIca bhagavaMtAcI mAyA Ahe. kAraNa kI karato dusarA koNItarI ANi svata:lA ase eDajasTameMTa hote (vATate) kI 'mIca karata Ahe. '
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________________ karmAce vijJAna he sukSmakarma je Ata cArja hotAta, te naMtara kaoNmpyuTara madhye jAtAta. eka vyaSTi kaoNmpyuTara Ahe ANi dusare samaSTi kaoNmpyuTara Ahe. sukSmakarma prathama vyaSTi kaoNmpyuTaramadhye jAtAta ANi tethUna maga samaSTi kaoNmpyuTara madhye jAtAta. naMtara samaSTi kAma karata rAhate. riyalI spikIMga, mhaNaje kharokhara 'mI candubhAU Ahe' ase bolaNe tyAneca karma bAMdhalI jAtAta. 'mI koNa Ahe' evaDheca jarI samajale tara tevhApAsUnaca sarva karmAtUna suTalA. arthAta he vijJAna saraLa ANi sope Thevale Ahe, nAhItara karoDo upAyAMnI suddhA ebsolyuTa hotA yeila ase nAhI. ANi he tara purNapaNe ebsolyuTa thiyarama Ahe. 34 karma-karmaphaLa-karmaphaLa pariNAma praznakartA : mAgacyA janmI cArja jhAlelI jI karma Aheta, te yA janmI DiscArjarUpe yetAta. tara yA janmAcI jI karma Ahe, te yA janmIca DiscArjarUpAne yetAta kI nAhI ? dAdAzrI : nAhI. praznakartA : tara kevhA yetAta? dAdAzrI : mAgacyA janmAtIla je kaoNjhIjha Aheta nA te hyA janmAcA iphekTa Ahe. yA janmAce kaoNjhIjha puDhIla janmAce iphekTa Aheta. praznakartA : paNa kityeka karma asehI asatAta nA kI, je ithalyA ithe bhogAve lAgatAta. eka veLA, ApaNa ase sAMgitale hote. dAdAzrI : he tara yA jagAtIla lokAMnA ase vATate. jagAtIla lokAMnA kAya vATate? 'haM... bagha, haoNTelamadhye khUpa khAta hotA nA tyAmuLe poTAta muraDa paDalI.' haoNTelAta nehamI khAta hotA, mhaNUna tyAne he karma bAMdhale. tyAmuLe hI poTAta muraDa paDalI, ase mhaNatAta. tevhA 'jJAnI' kAya sAMgatAta kI to haoNTelamadhye kA khAta hotA? tyAlA ase haoNTelamadhye khAyace koNI zikavale? he kase ghaDale ? saMyoga ubhe jhAle. pUrvI jI yojanA kelI hotI tyA yojanecA AtA pariNAma AlA mhaNUna to haoNTelamadhye gelA.
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________________ karmAce vijJAna haoNTelAta jANyAce sarva saMyoga ekatra hotAta. tyAmuLe AtA suTAyace asela tarI suTU zakata nAhI. tyAcyA manAta yete kI, are ! asaM kA baraM hota asela? 35 tevhA yethIla bhrAMtivAlyAMnA ase vATate kI, he kAma kele mhaNUna he jhAle. bhrAMtivAle ase samajatAta kI itheca karma bAMdhato ANi itheca bhogato. te ase samajatAta. paNa hyAcA zodha ghetalA nAhI kI, tyAlA jAyace nasUnahI to kase bare jAto? tyAlA tara jAyace nasate tarI koNatyA niyamAnusAra to jAto, to tara hizoba Ahe. tara AmhI ajUna adhika zikavato kI vinAkAraNa hyA mulAMnA sArakhe mArU nakA, tI mule punhA tase bhAva karaNAra nAhIta, ase karA. punhA yojanA AkhaNAra nAhI ase karA. corI karaNe vAITa Ahe... haoNTelAta khANe he vAITa Ahe... ase jJAna tyAlA utpanna hoIla ase karA. mhaNaje puDhacyA janmAta punhA ase hoNAra nAhI. he tara mulAMnA mArata ca rAhatAta ANi mulAMnA sAMgatAta, 'bagha haM ! tulA jAyace nAhI', tevhA tyAce mana ulaTe phirate kI, tyAMnA bolU de, paNa mI tara jANAraca, basa. ulaTa to haTTAlA peTato ANi tyAmuLeca tara hI ulaTI karma bAMdhalI jAtAta nA! AI - vaDIlaca ulaTe karAyalA bhAga pADatAta. praznakartA : pUrvI bhAva kele hote mhaNUna to haoNTelAta gelA, AtA haoNTelAta gelA, maga tethe khAlle ANi naMtara poTAta muraDa paDalI, he sarva DiscArja Ahe? dAdAzrI : to haoNTelAta gelA he DiscArja Ahe ANi poTAta muraDa paDalI tehI DiscArja Ahe. DiscArja svata:cyA tAbyAta rAhata nAhI, kaMTrola rAhata nAhI. AUTa oNpha kaMTrola hote. ekjhekTa karmAcI thiarI kazAlA mhaNatAta he jara samajale, tara to mANUsa purUSArtha dharmAlA samajU zakela. jagAtIla loka jyAlA karma mhaNatAta, tyAsa karmAcI thiarI, karmaphaLa ase mhaNatAta. haoNTelamadhye khANyAcA bhAva hoto. mAgIla janmI karma bAMdhale hote, tyA AdhArAvara khAto. mhaNaje tithe
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________________ karmAce vijJAna tyAsa karma mhaTale jAte. tyA karmAcyA AdhAre yA janmAta haoNTelamadhye khAkhA karato. tyAsa karmaphaLa Ale ase mhaTale jAIla. ANi hI poTAta muraDa paDalI, tyAsa jagAtIla loka karmaphaLa Ale ase mAnatAta. paraMtu karmAcI thiyarI kAya mhaNate kI jI poTAta muraDa paDalI hA karmaphaLAcA pariNAma AlA. __ vedAMtacyA bhASeta haoNTelamadhye khANyAsAThI AkarSita hoto te mAgIla bAMdhalelyA saMcita karmAcyA AdhAre Ahe. Aja haoNTelAta jANyAcI ajibAta icchA nAhI tarIhI haoNTelAta jAUna khAUna yeto te prArabdha karma ANi tyAcA punhA yA janmAtaca pariNAma yeto ANi poTAta muraDa paDate he kriyamANa karma. haoNTelAta khAtAnA majA yete tyAveLIhI bIja TAkato ANi poTAta muraDa paDate tevhA te bhogatAnA suddhA punhA bIja TAkato. arthAta karmaphaLAcyA veLI ANi karmaphaLa pariNAmAcyAveLI, azyA prakAre dona bIja TAkato. saMcita, prArabdha ANi kriyamANa karma praznakartA : he sarva mAgIla janmAcyA saMcitakarmAvara AdhArita Ahe kA? dAdAzrI : ase Ahe nA kI, saMcitakarma ANi ase itara sarva zabda samajUna gheNyAcI AvazyakatA Ahe. mhaNaje saMcitakarma, he kaoNjhIjha Aheta ANi prArabdhakarma he saMcita karmAcA iphekTa Ahe ANi iphekTace phaLa lageca miLate, te kriyamANakarma ANi saMcita karmAce phaLa pannAsa-sATha-zaMbhara varSAnaMtara tyAcA kALa paripakva hoto tevhA miLate. saMcita karmAce he phaLa Ahe. saMcitakarma phaLa dete veLI saMcita mhaTale jAta nAhI. phaLa dete veLI tyAsa prArabdhakarma mhaTale jAte. heca saMcitakarma jevhA phaLa deNyAsa tayAra hotAta, tevhA te prArabdhakarma mhaTale jAte. saMcita mhaNaje peTIta ThevalelI thappI. hI jI thappI bAhera kADhato, te prArabdha. mhaNaje prArabdhAcA artha kAya Ahe kI, je phaLa deNyAsa sanmukha jhAle te prArabdha ANi phaLa deNyAsa sanmukha jhAle nAhI, ajUna tara kitItarI
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________________ karmAce vijJAna 37 kALAnaMtara phaLa deIla, to paryaMta te sarva saMcita. saMcita sarva paDUna rAhilele asatAta. haLU haLU kAlAMtarAne jase jase paripakva hota asatAta, tasa tase te phaLa detAta. ANi kriyamANa tara DoLyAMnI disate, pAca indriyAMnI anubhavatA yete te kriyamANakarma. azyA tIna prakAre karma oLakhalI jAtAta. loka mhaNatAta baghA nA yAne tara dona thobADIta mAralyA. thobADIta mAraNAr2yAlA pAhatAta, thobADIta khANAr2yAlA pAhatAta, te kriyamANa karma Ahe. AtA kriyamANakarma mhaNaje kAya? phaLa deNyAsa je sanmukha jhAle, te he phaLa. tyA vyaktilA ase phaLa Ale kI dona thobADIta mAralyA gelyA ANi mAra khANAr2yAlA ase phaLa Ale kI tyAne dona thobADIta khAllyA. AtA yA kriyamANAce punhA phaLa yete. kAraNa tyA jyA dona thobADIta mAralyA hotyA jyAmuLe to manAta khUNagATha bAMdhato kI jevhA mAjhyA tAvaDIta sApaDela, tyAveLI baghUna gheIla. mhaNUna maga to naMtara tyAcA badalA gheto. tyAmuLe punhA ase navIna bIja paDataca jAtAta. navIna bIja tara Ata TAkataca jAto. bAkI saMcita tara phakta aseca paDUna rAhilelA, sTaoNkamadhye ThevalelA mAla Ahe. purUSArtha hI vastu vegaLI Ahe. kriyamANa tara prArabdhAcA rijalTa Ahe, prArabdhAce phaLa Ahe. praznakartA : yA puruSArthAlA tumhI karmayoga mhaNatA kA? dAdAzrI : karmayoga samajUna ghetale pAhije. karmayoga jo bhagavaMtAMnI lihilelA Ahe ANi loka jyAlA karmayoga mhaNatAta, hyA donhIMmadhye AkAza-pAtALa evaDhA pharaka Ahe. purUSArtha mhaNaje karmayoga khare, paNa kasA karmayoga? oNna pepara yojanA, he karmayoga mhaTale jAte. he karmayoga je jhAle, tyAcA maga hizoba bAMdhalA gelA, tyAcyA phaLAsa saMcita mhaTale jAIla ANi saMcita je Ahe te suddhA yojanetaca Ahe, paNa jevhA phaLa deNyAsa sanmukha hote tevhA prArabdha mhaTale jAte. ANi prArabdha jevhA phaLa dete tevhA kriyamANa ubhe rahAte. puNya asela tara cAMgale kriyamANa hotAta, pApa yete tevhA ulaTe kriyamANa hotAta. (manAvirUddha ghaDate)
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________________ 38 karmAce vijJAna ajANatepaNI kelelyA karmAce phaLa miLate kA? praznakartA : jANUna-bujUna kelelyA gunhyAMcA doSa kitI lAgato? ANi ajANatepaNI kelelyA cUkAMcA doSa kitI lAgata asela? ajANatepaNI kelelyA cUkAMnA mAphI miLate nA? dAdAzrI : koNI asA veDA nAhI kI jo aseca mApha karUna TAkela. tumacyA ajANatepaNI ekhAdA vyakti mAralA gelA tara koNI kAhI rikAmA basalelA nAhI kI jo mApha karaNyAsa yeIla. ajANatepaNI jara vistavAvara hAta paDalA tara kAya hoIla? praznakartA : jaLUna jAIla. dAdAzrI : tAbaDatoba phaLa, ajANatepaNI karA kiMvA jANUna bujUna karA. praznakartA : ajANatepaNI kelelyA doSAMnA azAprakAre bhogAve lAgate, tara jANUna-bujUna kelyAnaMtara kitI bhogAve lAgela? dAdAzrI : ho, mhaNUna heca mI tumhAlA samajavU icchito kI, ajANatepaNI kelele karma, te kazAprakAre bhogAyace? tevhA mhaNe, ekA mANasAne khUpa puNyakarma kele asatIla. rAjA banaNyAce puNya karma kele asatIla, paNa te ajANatepaNI kele hote, samajapurvaka kelele navhate. lokAMce pAhUna-pAhUna tyAne suddhA ase karma kele. tyAmuLe to samajalyA zivAya rAjA banela, ase karma bAMdhato. AtA to pAca varSAcyA vayAta rAjagAdIvara basato. vaDIla vArale mhaNUna, ANi vayAcyA 11 vyA varSAparyaMta, mhaNaje sahA varSAMparyaMta tyAlA rAjya karAyace hote, mhaNUna vayAcyA 11 vyA varSI to gAdIvarUna utaralA. ANi dusarA mANUsa jo vayAcyA 28 vyA varSI rAjA banalA ANi vayAcyA 34 vyA varSI rAjya suTale. tyAMcyApaikI kuNI adhika sukha upabhogale? sahA varSa doghAMnI rAjya kele. praznakartA : jo vayAcyA 28 vyA varSI AlA ANi 34 vyA varSI gelA tyAne.
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________________ karmAce vijJAna : dAdAzrI : tyAne jANatepaNI puNya bAMdhale hote, tyAmuLe te jANatepaNI bhogale. ANi tyA mulAne ajANatepaNI puNya bAMdhale hote tyAmuLe ajANatepaNI bhogale. arthAta, ajANatepaNI pApa bAMdhale gele, tara ajANatepaNAne bhogale jAte. ANi ajANatepaNI puNya kele tara ajANatepaNI bhogale jAte. tyAta majA yeta nAhI. he lakSAta yeta Ahe nA? 39 ajANatepaNI kelelyA pApA baddala mI tumhAlA samajAvato. yA bAjUne dona jhuraLe jAta hotI, moThI-moThI jhuraLaM ANi hyA bAjUne dona mitra jAta hote. tevhA tyAtIla ekA mitrAcA pAya jhuraLAvara paDalA, ANi tyAta te jhuraLa ciraDale gele ANi dusar2yA mitrAne jhuraLAlA pAhatAca tyAlA ThecUna ThecUna mArale. doghAMnI kAya kAma kele? praznakartA : jhuraLAMnA mArale. dAdAzrI : nisargAcyA niyamApramANe doghe khunI mAnale jANAra. tyA jhuraLAMcyA kuTUMbiyAMnI takrAra kelI kI AmacyA doghAMcyA patIMnA hyA mulAMnI mArUna TAkale. doghAMcA gunhA sArakhAca Ahe. doghehI gunhegAra khUnI mhaNUnaca pakaDale gele. khUna karaNyAcI paddhata vegavegaLI Ahe. paNa AtA hyA doghAMnA yAce phaLa kAya miLate? tevhA kAya, tara tyA doghAMnA dona thobADIta ANi cAra zivyA, azI sajA jhAlI. AtA jyAcyAkaDUna he sarva ajANatepaNI ghaDale hote, to mANUsa dusar2yA janmI majUra banalA hotA, ANi tyAlA koNItarI dona thobADIta mAralyA va cAra zivyA dilyA. tara tyAne thoDe puDhe jAUna jhaTakUna dile. ANi to dusarA mANUsa puDhIla janmAta gAvAcA sarapaMca banalA hotA, khUpa moThA, atyaMta cAMgalA mANUsa. tyAlA koNItarI dona thobADIta mAralyA va cAra zivyA dilyA, jyAmuLe to kitItarI divasAMparyaMta jhopU zakalA nAhI. kitI divasa bhogale! hyAne tara jANUnabujUna mArale hote, ANi majurAne ajANatepaNI mArale hote. arthAta he sarva samajUna karA. je paNa karAla nA, tI jabAbadArI svata: :cIca Ahe. yU Ar hola enDa sola rispaoNnsibala. gaoNDa ija naoNTa rispaoNnsibala eTa oNla. (tumhIca saMpUrNapaNe jabAbadAra AhAta, bhagavaMta yatkiMcitahI jabAbadAra nAhI)
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________________ 40 karmAce vijJAna prArabdha bhogalyA naMtaraca suTakA praznakartA : mukhya tara ApalIca karma naDatAta? dAdAzrI : tara maga dusare koNa? dusarA koNI karaNArA nAhI. bAherace koNI karaNAre nAhIta. tumacIca karma tumhAlA trAsa detAta. zahANI bAyako karuna ANalI ANi naMtara tI veDI jhAlI. tara te koNI kele? te tara patIcyAca karmAcyA udayAne veDI hote. mhaNUna ApaNa manAta ase samajUna jAyace kI mAjheca bhoga Aheta, mAjhAca hizoba Ahe ANi malA to hizoba pheDUna TAkAyacA Ahe. phasalo re bAbA phasalo! svataH bhogalyAzivAya suTakA nAhI. prArabdha tara AmhAlA suddhA bhogAve lAgateca, sarvAMnAca, mahAvIra prabhU suddhA bhogata hote. bhagavAna mahAvIrAMnA tara devaloka trAsa dyAyace, tehI bhogata hote. moTha-moThe devaloka DhekUNa TAkata hote. praznakartA : te tyAMnA prArabdha bhogAve lAgale nA? dAdAzrI : suTakAca nAhI nA! te svataH samajAyace kI jarI he devaloka karata asale tarI prArabdha tara mAjheca Ahe. koNatyA karmAne dehAlA duHkha? praznakartA : koNatyA karmAcyA AdhArAvara zarIrAce roga hotAta? dAdAzrI : luLA-pAMgaLA hoto nA! ho, he sarva kAya jhAle Ahe? te kazAce phaLa Ahe? ApaNa jara kAnAcA durUpayoga kelA tara kAnAlA nukasAna hote. DoLyAMcA durUpayoga kelA tara DoLe jAtAta. nAkAcA durUpayoga kelA tara nAka jAte, jIbhecA durUpayoga kelA tara jIbha kharAba hote. meMdUcA durUpayoga kelA tara meMdU kharAba hoto. pAyAcA durUpayoga kelA tara pAya tuTato, hAtAcA durUpayoga kelA tara hAta tuTato. arthAta jyAcA durupayoga kelA jAto tyAce phaLa yethe bhogAve lAgate. nirdoSa mulAMnI kA bhogAyace? praznakartA : puSkaLa veLA ase pAhaNyAta yete kI, lahAna mulaM
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________________ karmAce vijJAna janmataH apaMga vagaire asatAta. pAMgaLe asatAta. kitItarI lahAna mule kutubaminAra ANi himAlaya darzanAcyA durghaTaneta marUna jAtAta. tara yA choTyA-choTyA mulAMnI kAya pApa kele asela, mhaNUna tyAMcyA sobata ase ghaDale? dAdAzrI : pApa keleca hote, tyAcA hizoba cukatA jhAlA. mhaNUna diDa varSAcA jhAlyAbarobara, AI-vaDIla ANi sarvAMsobatacA hizoba purNa jhAlA mhaNUna nighUna gelA. hizoba cukatA kelA pAhije. he hizoba cukate karaNyAsAThI tara yetAta. praznakartA : AI-vaDIlAMnI kelelyA duSkRtyAce phaLa deNyAsAThI te mula Ale hote kA? dAdAzrI : AI-vaDIlAMsobata jo hizoba niyojita Ahe, jevaDhe duHkha dyAyace asela tevaDhe duHkha deUna jAto ANi sukha dyAyace asela tara sukha deUna jAto. jara eka-dona varSAcA hoUna maruna jAto, tara to thoDeseca duHkha deUna jAto. ANi jara-bAvIsa varSAcA lagna karUna marato tara jAsta duHkha deto. ase ghaDate kI nAhI? praznakartA : ase tara ghaDate, barobara Ahe. dAdAzrI : mhaNaje he du:kha deNyAsAThI asate ANi kityeka tara vayAne moThe hoUna sukha detAta. zevaTaparyaMta, saMpUrNa AyuSya sukha detAta. he sarva sukha ANi duHkha deNyAsAThIca sarvAMce ekamekAMzI saMbaMdha joDale gele Aheta. he rileTIva saMbaMdha Aheta. AjacyA kukarmAce phaLa hyA janmAtaca? praznakartA : he je karmAce phaLa yete, jase udAharaNArtha ApaNa ekhAdyAcyA vivAhAta vighna ANale. tara maga punhA aseca phaLa ApalyAlA puDhIla janmI miLate kA? ApalA vivAha hota asatAnA toca manuSya vighna nirmANa karela kA? azA prakAre karmAce phaLa asate kA? azAca prakAre ANi tevaDhyAca DigrIce?
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________________ 42 karmAce vijJAna dAdAzrI : nAhI, hyAca janmAta miLate. vivAhAta vighna ANatA, he tara pratyakSAsArakheca mhaTale jAIla ANi pratyakSAce phaLa itheca miLate. praznakartA : ApaNa ekhAdyAcyA vivAhAta vighna ANale, tyA agodaraca ApalA vivAha jhAlelA asela, tara maga kuThUna phaLa miLela? dAdAzrI : nAhI, he aseca azAca prakArace phaLa miLela, ase nAhI. tumhI tyAce je mana dukhavale, taseca tumace mana dukhavaNyAcA mArga miLela. he tara koNAlA mulI nasatIla tara tyAlA kazA prakAre phaLa miLela? lokAMcyA mulIMcyA vivAhAta aDacaNI ANela ANi svata:lA mulI nasatIla tarI hyA janmAtaca karmAce phaLa miLate. hyA janmAtaca phaLa miLAlyA zivAya rAhata nAhI. ase Ahe nA, parokSa karmAce phaLa puDhIla janmAta miLate ANi pratyakSa karmAce phaLa hyA janmAtaca miLate. praznakartA : parokSa zabdAcA artha kAya? dAdAzrI : jyAcI ApalyAlA jANIva hota nAhI ase karma. praznakartA : ekhAdyA mANasAce dahA lAkha rUpayAMce nukasAna karaNyAcA mI bhAva kelA asela tara mAjhe punhA aseca nukasAna hoNAra kA? dAdAzrI : nAhI, nukasAna nAhI. te tara dusar2yA rUpAta tumhAlA tevaDheca duHkha hoIla. jevaDhe duHkha tumhI tyAlA dile tevaDheca duHkha tumhAlA miLela. maga mulagA paise kharca karUna tumhAlA du:khI karela kiMvA azyA koNatyAhI prakAre tevaDheca du:kha tumhAlA hoIla. to sarva hA hizoba nAhI, bAheracA hizoba nAhI. mhaNUna yethe he sarva bhikArI bolatAta nA, rastyAta eka bhikArI bolata hotA, 'he je AmhI bhIka mAgata Ahota, te tara AmhI je tumhAlA dilele teca tumhI AmhAlA parata karata AhAta.' to tara ase ughaDapaNe bolato, 'tumhI je detAta te AmhI dilele Ahe teca detAta ANi nAhI tara AmhI tumhAlA deU.' ase bolatAta. doghAMpaikI eka tara hoIla! nAhI, ase nAhI. tumhI koNAcyA hRdayAlA gAravA pohocavalA asela, tara tumace hRdayahI gAra hoIla. tumhI jara tyAlA dukhavale tara tumhI suddhA dukhAvale jANAra, basa evaDheca. he sarva karma zevaTI rAga-dveSAta jAtAta. rAga-dveSAce
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________________ karmAce vijJAna 43 phaLa miLate. rAgAce (moha-AsaktIce) phaLa sukha ANi dveSAce phaLa duHkha miLela. praznakartA : he je ApaNa sAMgitale kI rAgAce phaLa sukha ANi dveSAce phaLa du:kha tara hI parokSa phaLAcI goSTa Ahe kI pratyakSa phaLAcI? dAdAzrI : nivvaLa pratyakSa. ase Ahe kI, rAgAne puNya bAMdhale jAte ANi puNyAne lakSmI miLAlI. AtA lakSmI miLAlI paraMtu vAparatAnA punhA duHkha deUna jAte. mhaNaje he sagaLe sukha je tumhI upabhogatA, he lona vara ghetalele sukha Ahe. mhaNUna jara parata pemenTa karaNAra asAla taraca he sukha ghyA. ho, taraca hyA sukhAcA svAda ghyA nAhItara svAda gheU nakA. AtA tumacI pheDaNyAcI, punhA pemenTa karaNyAcI zaktI nAhI mhaNUna svAda gheNe baMda karUna TAkA. he tara sarva lonane ghetalele sukha Ahe. koNatyAhI prakArace sukha he lonavara ghetalele sukha Ahe. puNyAce phaLa sukha, paNa sukhahI lonavarace ANi pApAce phaLa duHkha, duHkhahI lonavarace. arthAt he sarva lonavarIla Ahe. mhaNUna saudA karAyacA nasela tara karU nakA. mhaNUna tara pApa ANi puNya heya arthAta (tyAga karaNyA yogya) mAnale Ahe. praznakartA : hyA agodara dilele Ahe ANi AtA parata ghetale, mhaNaje hizoba cukatA jhAlA. mhaNUna tyAlA tara lonavara ghetalele ase mhaTale jANAra nAhI nA? dAdAzrI : AtA je sukha upabhogata AhAta, te sarva parata Alele nAhIta, tarIhI upabhogata AhAta, tara pemenTa karAve lAgela. AtA pemenTa kazAprakAre karAve lAgela? AMbyAMcA chAna rasa khAllA tyA divazI ApalyAlA AnaMda jhAlA ANi sukha utpanna jhAle. divasa AnaMdAta gelA. paNa dusar2yA veLI AMbA kharAba nighAlA, tara tevhA tevaDheca duHkha hoIla. paNa jara yAta sukha ghetale nAhI, tara te duHkha yeNAra nAhI. praznakartA : yAta mUrchA nasela tara? dAdAzrI : tara maga AMbA khANyAta harakata nAhI.
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________________ 44 karmAce vijJAna jamavA sAsUsobata sumeLa praznakartA : sAsUsobata mAjhA khUpa saMgharSa hota asato. tyApAsUna kase suTAyace? dAdAzrI : ekUNa eka karmAcI mukti vhAyalA havI. sAsU trAsa deta asela tevhA pratyeka veLI karmApAsUna mukti miLAlI pAhije. tara tyAsAThI ApaNa kAya kele pAhije? sAsUlA nirdoSa pAhile pAhije, kI yAta sAsUcA kAya doSa? mAjhyA karmAcyA udayAmuLe tyA malA bheTalyA Aheta. tyA bicAr2yA tara nimitta Aheta. tara tyA karmAcI mukti jhAlI, ANi jara sAsUce doSa pAhile mhaNaje karma vADhale, tyAta maga koNa kAya karu zakela? jara samoracyAce doSa disale tara karma bAMdhalI jAtAta ANi svata:ce doSa disale tara karma suTatAta __ Apale karma bAMdhale jANAra nAhI azAprakAre ApaNa rahAve. yA jagApAsUna dUra rahAve. he karma bAMdhale gele hote mhaNUna tara ekatra jamale Aheta. ApalyA gharAta ekatra koNa jamale Aheta? jyAMcyAsobata karmAcA hizoba bAMdhalA gelA Ahe teca sarva ekatra jamalele Aheta. ANi maga te ApalyAlA bAMdhUna mAratAta suddhA! ApaNa nakkI kelele asela kI malA tyAcyAsobata bolAyace nAhI. tarIhI samoracI vyakti toMDAta boTaM ghAlUna bolAyalA bhAga pADate. are, boTaM ghAlUna kazAsAThI bolAyalA lAvato? yAceca nAva vaira! sarva mAgIla vaira! ase kuThetarI pAhile Ahesa kA? praznakartA : sarva ThikANI teca pahAvayAsa miLate nA! dAdAzrI : mhaNUnaca mI sAMgitale nA kI, tithUna bAjUlA vhA ANi mAjhyAjavaLa yA. he je mI prApta kele Ahe te mI tumhAlA deIla, tumace (mokSace) kAma hoUna jAIla, ANi suTakA hoIla. nAhItara suTakA hoNe zakya nAhI. __ AmhI koNAce doSa kADhata nAhI, paNa noMda gheto kI, pahA he jaga kAya Ahe? sarva prakAre mI yA jagAlA pAhile, khUpa prakAre pAhile. koNI doSIta disate hI ajUna ApalI cuka Ahe. kadhI nA kadhI tara nirdoSa
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________________ karmAce vijJAna pahAveca lAgela nA? ApalyA hizobAneca Ahe he sarva. evaDhe thoDakyAta jarI samajalAta, tarI khUpa upayogI paDela. 45 jithe Apale cikaTa (pragADha ) asela tethe ApalyAlA cikaTa karmAMcA udaya yeIla. ANi te ApalA cikaTapaNA soDavaNyAsAThI yetAta. sagaLAca ApalA hizoba Ahe. koNI zivI dilI tara to kAya avyavahAra Ahe? vyavahAra Ahe. 'jJAnI' tara koNI zivI dilI tara svata: rAjI hotAta kI, baMdhanAtUna mukta jhAlo, tevhA ajJAnI dhakkA mArato ( bhAMDato) ANi nave karma bAMdhato. samoracA mANUsa zivyA deto, to tara ApalyAca karmAcA udaya Ahe, samoracA tara nimitta mAtra Ahe. azI jAgRtI rAhilI tara navIna karma bAMdhale jANAra nAhI. pratyeka karma tyAcyA nirjarece nimitta gheUna Alele asate. koNA-koNAcyA nimittAne nirjarA ( AtmapradezApAsUna karmAMce vegaLe hoNe) hoIla he nakkI asate. udayakarmAta rAga- -dveSa karAyace nAhI, tyAce nAva dharma. svataH neca pADale aMtarAya ? praznakartA : ApaNa satsaMgalA yeta asato tevhA ekhAdA mANUsa aDacaNa ubhI karato. tara tI aDacaNa ApalyA karmAmuLe Ahe kA? dAdAzrI : hoya, tumacI cuka nasela tara koNI tumace nAva gheNAra nAhI. tumacyA cUkAMcAca pariNAma Ahe. svata:neca bAMdhalele aMtarAya karma Aheta. kelelyA karmAMce sarva hizoba bhogAyace Aheta. praznakartA : hI cuka ApaNa mAgacyA janmI kelI hotI kA? dAdAzrI : hoya, mAgacyA janmAta. praznakartA : AtAce mAjhe vartana tyAMcyAsobata cAMgale Ahe. tarIhI te mhaNatAta kI, mAjhe vartana kharAba Ahe, tara he mAgIla janmAce Ahe kA? dAdAzrI : mAgIla janmAce karma mhaNaje kAya ? yojanA rUpI kelele asate. mhaNaje manAcyA vicArAne karma kelele asate. te AtA rUpakamadhye yete ANi ApalyAlA te kArya karAve lAgate. karAyace nasela tarIhI karAveca
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________________ karmAce vijJAna lAgate. ApalI suTakAca hoU zakata nAhI. ase kArya karAve lAgate te mAgIla yojanAcyA AdhArAvara karata asato ANi maga tyAce phaLa punhA bhogAve lAgate. pati-patnIcA saMgharSa DhekUNa cAvatAta, te tara bicAre khUpa cAMgale Aheta paNa hA navarA bAyakolA cAvato, bAyako navar2yAlA cAvate, he atizaya duHkhadAyI asate. cAvatAta kI nAhI? praznakartA : cAvatAta. dAdAzrI : tara he cAvAyace baMda karAyace Ahe. DhekUNa cAvatAta, te tara cAvUna nighUna jAtAta bicAre. Ata tRpta jhAle tara nighUna jAtAta. paNa patnI tara nehamIca cAvata asate. eka jaNa tara malA sAMgata hotA kI, mAjhI patnI tara malA sApINa sArakhI cAvate! tara melyA, maga lagna kazAlA kele tyA sApINasobata? tara hA svataH sApa nAhI kA? murkhA! azIca kAya sApINa yete? sApa asela taraca sApINa yeIla nA! praznakartA : tyAcyA karmAta lihile asela mhaNUna tyAlA bhogAveca lAgate. mhaNUna tI (patnI) cAvate, tyAta patnIcI cuka nAhI! dAdAzrI : basa, mhaNaje he karmAce duHkha bhogaNe Ahe sarva. mhaNUna azI patnI miLate, asA patI miLato, azI sAsU miLate. nAhItara yA jagAta kitI cAMgalyA cAMgalyA sAsavA asatAta. cAMgale pati asatAta! patnI kitI chAna asate, ANi ApalyAlAca ase vAkaDe kA bheTaleta? hA tara patnIsobata bhAMData rAhato. are, tujhyA karmAcA doSa. mhaNaje Apale loka nimittAlA cAvAyalA dhAvatAta. patnI, tara nimitta Ahe. nimittAlA kazAsAThI cAvatosa? nimittAlA cAvalyAmuLe koNAce bhale jhAle Ahe kA kadhI? vAITa gatIta jAtAta sarva. tara lokAMcI kAya gatI hoIla, he sAMgitale jAta nAhI mhaNUna tara bhIta nAhIta. jara sAMgitale nA kI, cAra pAya ANi varUna zepUTa miLela tara lageca saraLa hotIla.
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________________ karmAce vijJAna 47 praznakartA : pati-patnI doghe bhAMData asatIla, tara yAcyAta koNAce karma kharAba samajAve? dAdAzrI : doghAMpaikI jo kaMTALato tyAce. praznakartA : yAta tara koNI kaMTALataca nAhI, te tara bhAMDataca rAhatAta. dAdAzrI : tara maga doghAMce. nAsamajImuLe he sarva hota asate. praznakartA : ANi jara hI samaja AlI tara kAhI duHkhaca nAhI nA maga! dAdAzrI : he samajale tara kAhI du:khaca nAhI. he tara ase Ahe kI ekA mulAne jara dagaDa mAralA, tara tyAlA mArAyalA dhAvato ANi tyAcyAvara khUpa rAgAvato. rAgAvato kI nAhI? ANi jara DoMgarAvarUna dagaDa DokyAvara paDalA ANi rakta nighAle tara? tara koNAvara rAgavela? praznakartA : koNAvaraca nAhI. dAdAzrI : azAprakAre he Ahe. nehamI jo mAraNArA Ahe to nimittaca Ahe, he tara bhAna nAhI mhaNUnaca hA rAgAvato! ase jara tyAlA nimitta samajale tara duHkhaca nAhI! sukha deUna sukha ghyA jase ApaNa bAbhuLIce jhADa lAvato ANi tyAcyAtUna AMbyAMcI AzA ThevalI tara cAlaNAra nAhI nA? jase perato, tase phaLa miLate. ApaNa jase jase karma kele Ahe, tase phaLa ApalyAlA bhogAyace Aheta. koNAlA zivI dilI asela tara tyA divasApAsUna tyAcyA lakSAtaca asate kI, kevhA malA bheTela ANi kevhA mI tyAlA parata karena. loka badalA ghetAta, mhaNUna ase karma karU nakA kI jyAmuLe loka du:khI hotIla. ApalyAlA jara sukha have asela tara sukha dyA. jara koNI ApalyAlA dona zivyA dilyA tara kAya karAyalA have? tyA jamA karUna ghyAvyAta. pUrvI ApaNa dilI Ahe, tI parata karuna gelA.
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________________ 48 karmAce vijJAna jara AvaData asela tara ajUna dona-pAca zivyA dyA ANi jara AvaData nasela tara deU nakA, nAhI tara to jevhA parata karela tevhA sahana hoNAra nAhI. mhaNUna to je kAhI deIla te jamA karUna ghyAve. hyA jagAta anyAya hota nAhI. agadI eka kSaNabhara suddhA nyAyAcyA bAhera he jaga gele nAhI. mhaNUna tumhI jara paddhatazIra rahAla tara tumace koNI nAva gheNAra nAhI. ho, koNI dona zivyA deNyAsAThI Ale, tara ghyAvyA ANi gheUna jamA karUna TAkAyacyA ANi sAMgAyace kI hA hizoba pUrNa jhAlA. kleza, te nAhI udayakarma jANale koNAsa mhaTale jAIla, tara gharAta matabheda hota nAhI, manabheda hota nAhI, kleza-kalaha (bhAMDaNa-taMTe) hota nAhIta. he tara mahinyAta ekhAdyA divazI bhAMDaNa hote kI nAhI hota gharAta? maga yAsa jIvana kase mhaNAve? yApekSA tara AdivAsI cAMgalyA prakAre jIvana jagatAta. praznakartA : paNa udayakarmAcyA AdhIna asela, tara kleza-kalaha hoNAraca nA? dAdAzrI : nAhI, kleza udayakarmAcyA AdhIna nAhI. paNa ajJAnAmuLe hota asatAta. kleza jhAlyAne nave karmabIja paDatAta. udayakarma klezavAle nasatAta. ajJAnatemuLe svata:lA yethe kase vAgAyace, te samajata nasalyAmuLe kleza hota asate. mAjhA eka khAsa mitra asela, to maraNa pAvalA azI bAtamI jara koNI malA yethe ANUna dilI, tara lagecaca he kAya jhAle, jJAnAne malA tyAce pRtha:karaNa hoUna jAte, mhaNUna maga malA kleza hoNyAce kAhI kAraNaca rahAta nAhI nA! he tara ajJAna goMdhaLAta ghAlate kI mAjhA mitra marUna gelA, ANi teca sarva kleza karavate! arthAta kleza mhaNaje ajJAnatA. ajJAnatene sarva kleza nirmANa hotAta. ajJAnatA gelI tara kleza baMda hotAta. he sarva kAya Ahe, he jANUna ghyAyalA have. sAdhAraNapaNe ApalyA
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________________ karmAce vijJAna gharAta eka mATha asato, to jara mulAne phoDalA tara koNI kleza karata nAhI ANi kAcece evaDhe choTese bhAMDe asela, te jara phoDUna TAkale tara? navarA kAya mhaNato bAyakolA? tU hyA mulAlA sAMbhALata nAhIsa, are melyA, maga mAThAsAThI kA nAhI bolalAsa? tevhA mhaNato, to tara DivaeNlya hotA. tyAcI kiMmataca navhatI. kiMmata nasela tara ApaNa kleza karata nAhI ANi kiMmata asela tyAsAThI kleza karata asato nA! donhIhI vastu tara udayakarmAcyA AdhIna phuTata asatAta nA! paNa pahA, ApaNa mAThAsAThI kleza karata nAhI! ekA mANasAce dona hajAra rUpaye haravale, tara tyAlA mAnasika ciMtAupAdhI hote. dusar2yA ekA mANasAce haravale tara to mhaNela, 'hA karmAcA udaya asela tara jhAle AtA.' mhaNaje azI samaja asela tara nikAla lAvela, nAhI tara kleza nirmANa hoto. pUrvajanmAcyA karmAta kleza nasatAta. kleza tara AtAcyA ajJAnatece phaLa Ahe. kityeka mANasAMce dona hajAra jAtAta, tarI tyAMnA kAhI pharaka paData nAhI. ase ghaDate kI nAhI? koNatehI duHkha udayakarmAcyA AdhIna nasate. sarva du:kha ApalyA ajJAnatece Ahe. kityeka mANasAMnI vImA utaravalelA nasato, ANi tyAMce godAma jaLUna jAte, tyAveLI te zAMta rAhU zakatAta, AtUna paNa zAMta rAhU zakatAta, bAhera ANi Ata donhI prakAre ANi kityeka mANasaM tara, Ata duHkha ANi bAhera paNa duHkha dAkhavatAta. hI sarva ajJAnatA, asamaMjasapaNA Ahe. te godAma tara jaLaNAraca hote. tyAta kAhI navIna nAhIca. maga tu Doke phoDUna jarI melAsa, tarIhI tyAta badala hoNAra nAhI. praznakartA : arthAt koNatyAhI vastucyA pariNAmAlA cAMgalyA prakAre svIkArale pAhije? dAdAzrI : hoya, paoNjhiTiva ghyAve, paNa te jJAna asela tara paoNjhiTiva gheIla. anyathA buddhI tara nigeTivaca pAhate. saMpUrNa jaga du:khI Ahe. mAse taDaphaDatAta tase taDaphaData Ahe. yAlA jIvana kase mhaTale jAIla? samajUna
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________________ 50 karmAce vijJAna gheNyAcI AvazyakatA Ahe, jIvana jagaNyAcI kalA jANUna gheNyAcI garaja Ahe. sarvAMcAca mokSa hota nAhI paNa jIvana jagaNyAcI kalA, hI tara asAyalA pAhije nA! amaMgala patra, posTamanacA kAya gunhA? duHkha sarva nAsamajUtImuLeca Ahe, yA jagAta ! svataH ubhe kelele Ahe sarva, svata:lA disata nasalyAmuLe! bhAjate tevhA vicArato nA kI, bhAU tumhAlA kase bhAjale? tevhA sAMgato, 'cukUna bhAjalo, muddAma bhAjUna gheIla kA mI?' ase he sarva du:khaM ApalyA cUkAMcA pariNAma Ahe. cuka nighUna gelI kI maga jhAle. praznakartA : karma cikaTa asatAta, tyAmuLe ApalyAlA duHkha bhogAve lAgate kA? dAdAzrI : ApaNaca kelelI karma Aheta, mhaNUna ApalIca cuka Ahe. itara koNAcIhI cuka yA jagAta Aheca nAhI. ittara sarva tara, nimitta mAtra Aheta. duHkha tumaceca Ahe. ANi te samoracyA, nimittAcyA hAtUna dile jAte. vaDIla vAralyAce patra posTamana deUna gelA, tyAta posTamanacA kAya doSa? pUrva janmAce RNAnubaMdhI praznakartA : Apale je nAtevAIka asatAta kiMvA patnI asela, mule asatIla, Aja je Apale nAtevAIka RNAnubaMdhI asatAta, tyAMcyAsobata ApalA pUrvajanmAcA kAhI saMbaMdha asato mhaNUna ekatra yetAta kA? dAdAzrI : kharaM Ahe, RNAnubaMdhAzivAya tara kAhI asataca nAhI nA! sarva hizoba Ahe. ekatara ApaNa tyAMnA du:kha dile Ahe kiMvA tyAMnI ApalyAlA duHkha dilele Ahe. upakAra kele asatIla tara tyAce phaLa AtA goDa yeIla. duHkha dile asela, tyAce phaLa kaDU yeIla. praznakartA : samajA kI AtA, malA ekhAdA vyaktI trAsa deta asela ANi malA du:kha hota asela, tara he je duHkha malA hota Ahe te tara mAjhyAca
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________________ karmAce vijJAna 51 karmAce phaLa Ahe. paNa tica vyaktI malA trAsa dete, mhaNaje tyAMnI mAgacyA janmAta mAjhyAsobata asA kAhI hizoba bAMdhalA asela, mhaNUna toca malA trAsa deto, ase kAhI Ahe kA? dAdAzrI : ho, Ahe nA, sarva hizoba Ahe. jevaDhA hizoba asela tevaDhayA veLA duHkha deIla. donacA hizoba asela tara dona veLA du:kha deIla, tInacA hizoba asela tara tIna veLA deIla. hI miracI duHkha nAhI kA deta? praznakartA : ho, dete nA. dAdAzrI : toMDAcI Aga-Aga hote, nAhI kA? ase Ahe he sarva. to svataH trAsa deta nAhI, pudgala deta Ahe ANi ApaNa ase samajato kI to deta Ahe, to punhA, gunhA Ahe.pudgala duHkha deto. miracI duHkha dete, tevhA maga kuThe TAkUna detA kA tilA? miracI ekhAdayA divazI duHkha dete tevhA ApaNa samajUna jAyace kI bhAU yAta doSa duHkhI hoNAr2yAcA Ahe. miracI tara ticyA svabhAvAtaca Ahe. praznakartA : ApaNa paNa koNAlA trAsa dilA ANi tyAlA duHkha jhAle, tara kAya karAve? dAdAzrI : ApalyAlA pratikramaNa karAve lAgate. kapaDe tara svaccha ThevAve lAgatIla nA! maLavAyace kazAlA! sarvAta uttama vartana, koNAlA kiMcitamAtra paNa du:kha hoNAra nAhI ase asAyalA have. tara AtA duHkha hota Ahe, tyAce jara ApaNa pratikramaNa kele tara aMtima dazA yeIla. koNI koNAce duHkha gheU zakato? praznakartA : eka mahAna saMta dona varSAMpUrvI ekA haoNspiTalamadhye khUpa vedanA bhogata hote. tevhA mI tyAMnA prazna vicAralA kI tumhAlA ase kA hota Ahe? tara te mhaNAle kI mI khUpa lokAMcI du:khaM ghetalelI Aheta. mhaNUna malA ase hota Ahe. ase koNI karU zakato kA?
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________________ karmAce vijJAna dAdAzrI : koNAce duHkha koNI gheU zakata nAhI. he tara bahANe banavatAta, saMtAMcyA rUpAta pUjanIya banUna ! svata:cyAca kaoNjhIjhace he pariNAma Aheta. he tara bahANe banavatAta, svata:cI abrU rAkhaNyAsAThI. moThe Aleta duHkha gheNAre! zaucAlA jANyAcI zakti nAhI. te kAya duHkha gheNAra hote ! koNI koNAce duHkha gheUca kase zakato? praznakartA : mI suddhA nAhI mAnata. duHkha ghetaleca jAU zakata nAhI. dAdAzrI : nAhI, nAhI! he tara lokAMnA murkha banavatAta. koNI gheUca zakata nAhI. mhaNaje he sarva jaNa, bahANe tara banavaNAra! tevhAca pUjale jAtAta ! mI tara toMDAvaraca sAMgUna deto kI tumace duHkha tumhIca bhogata AhAta. maga kAya baghUna ase bolatAta ? moThe Ale duHkha gheNAre. praznakartA : duHkha deU tara zakato nA? 52 dAdAzrI : to duHkha gheU zakata nAhI ANi jo koNI ApalyAlA duHkha deU zakato, to tara ApalA iphekTa Ahe. deU zakato to suddhA iphekTa Ahe ANi gheU zakato to suddhA iphekTa Ahe. iphekTa mhaNaje iTa haeNpansa, mhaNaje koNI kartA nAhI. bhayaMkara roga, pApa karmAMmuLe praznakartA : koNatAhI roga jhAlyAmuLe mRtyu hoto, tevhA loka ase mhaNatAta kI pUrva janmAce koNate tarI pApa naData Ahe. hI kharI goSTa Ahe? dAdAzrI : hoya, pApAmuLe roga hotAta ANi pApa nasela tara roga hota nAhIta. tu ekhAdayA rogyAlA pAhile Ahe kA? praznakartA : mAjhI AI AtAca dona mahinyAMpUrvI kaeNnsarane maraNa pAvalI. dAdAzrI : he tara sarva pApakarmAcyA udayAne ghaDate. pApakarmAcA udaya asela tevhA kaeNnsara hoto. he sarva hArTa eTeka vagaire pApakarmAmuLe hota asate. nusatI pApaMca bAMdhalI Aheta, yA kALAcyA jIvAMcA dhaMdAca hA, saMpUrNa divasa
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________________ karmAce vijJAna 53 pApakarmaca karata rAhatAta. bhAna nAhI mhaNUna. jara bhAna rAhile asate tara ase kele nasate! praznakartA : tyAMnI AyuSyabhara bhakti kelI hotI, tarI tyAMnA kaeNnsara kA jhAlA? dAdAzrI : bhakti kelI, tyAce phaLa tara AtA puDhe yeIla, puDhIla janmAta miLela. he mAgIla janmAce phaLa AtA miLAle. ANi AtA tumhI cAMgale gahU perata AhAta tara puDhIla janmAta tumhAlA (cAMgale) gahU miLatIla. praznakartA : karma kelyAmuLe roga hota asatIla, tara te auSadhAne kase bare hotAta? dAdAzrI : hoya. tyA rogAta te pApaca kele Ahe nA, te pApa ajANatepaNI kele hote. mhaNUna hyA auSadhAne ArAma miLato, ANi madata hote. jANUna-bujUna kele asela tara tyAvara auSadha vagaire kAhI miLata nAhI, auSadha miLataca nAhI. ajJAnatemuLe karaNArI mANasaM Aheta, bicArI! ajJAnatemuLe kelelI pApaM soData nAhIta ANi jANUna-bujUna karaNAr2yAlAhI soData nAhIta. paraMtU ajANatepaNI karaNAr2yAlA thoDI tarI madata miLate ANi jANUna-bujUna karaNAr2yAlA miLata nAhI. he Aheta dusar2yAMnA trAsa deNyAce pariNAma praznakartA : zarIrAce sukha-du:kha ApaNa bhogata asato te vyAdhi asela kiMvA ase kAhIhI yeta asela, te pUrvIcyA koNatyA prakAracyA karmAce pariNAma asatAta? dAdAzrI : yAta tara ase Ahe, kityeka loka samaja nasalyAmuLe, mAMjarAlA mArUna TAkatAta. kutryAlA mArUna TAkatAta, khUpa duHkha detAta, hairANa karatAta. te tara duHkha detAta, tyAveLI svata:lA bhAna nasate kI yAcI jabAbadArI kAya yeIla? lahAna vayAta mAMjarIcyA pillAMnA mArUna TAkatAta. kurtyAMcyA pillAMnA mArUna TAkatAta ANi dusare ase kI DaoNkTara beDakAMnA kApatAta, tyAce paDasAda tyAMcyA zarIrAvara paDaNAra. je tumhI karata AhAta, tyAceca paDasAda paDatIla, he sarva paDasAda Aheta.
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________________ 54 karmAce vijJAna praznakartA : arthAt dusar2yAMcyA zarIrAzI kelelyA cheDakhAnIce paDasAda umaTatAta kA? dAdAzrI : hoya. teca, koNatyAhI jIvAlA kiMcitamAtra duHkha deNe, he tumacyAca zarIrAvara yeIla. praznakartA : mhaNaje tyAne jevhA he sarva kele asela, jIvAMnA cirale asela tevhA tara to ajJAna dazeta asela nA! tyAveLI tyAlA asA vairabhAva paNa nasela, tarI suddhA tyAlA bhogAve lAgela? dAdAzrI : cukUna, ajJAna dazeta AgIta hAta paDalA nA, tara Aga phaLa deteca. mhaNaje koNIca soData nAhI. ajJAna kI sajJAna, jANatepaNAta kiMvA ajANatepaNAta, bhogaNyAcI paddhata vegaLI asate, paraMtu soData vagaire kAhI nAhI! hI sarva mANasaM, jI duHkha bhogata Aheta, to tyAMcA svata:cAca hizoba Ahe sarva. mhaNUna bhagavaMtAMne mhaTale Ahe kI mana-vacana kAyene ahiMsece pAlana kara. koNatyAhI jIvAlA kiMcitamAtra duHkha hoNAra nAhI, ase kara. jara tulA sukhI vhAyace asela tara! praznakartA : koNI mahAtmA asela tara tyAne DaoNkTara banU naye kA? dAdAzrI : banale pAhije kI nAhI banale pAhije, hI vegaLI goSTa Ahe. te tara tyAcyA prakRtI anusAra hotaca rAhIla. bAkI, manAta asA bhAva asAyalA havA. mhaNaje maga DaoNkTaracyA lAInamadhye to jAUca zakaNAra nAhI. koNAlA kiMcitamAtra duHkha hoU naye asA jyAcA bhAva Ahe, to maga beDakAlA kA mArela? praznakartA : dusar2yA bAjUlA DaoNkTarakI zikUna hajAro lokAMce roga dUra karUna phAyadA paNa karato nA? dAdAzrI : to jagAcA vyavahAra Ahe. tyAlA phAyadA mhaNata nAhI. maMda buddhIvAlyAMnA karma baMdhana kazAprakAre? praznakartA : jo cAMgalA mANUsa asela, tara tyAlA vegavegaLyA prakArace vicAra yetAta, ekA miniTAta kitItarI vicAra karUna TAkato. karma
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________________ karmAce vijJAna 55 bAMdhUna TAkato. ANi maMda buddhIvAlyAlA tara kAhI samajaca nasate mhaNUna tyAlA tara ase kAhI hotaca nAhI, nirdoSa asato nA! dAdAzrI : jyAMnA samaja Ahe, te samajace karma bAMdhatAta ANi jyAMnA samaja nAhI te nAsamajIce karma bAMdhatAta. paraMtU samaja nasalelyAMce karma khUpa jADa asatAta ANi samajavAle tara vivekapUrNa karma bAMdhatAta. mhaNaje samaja nasalelyAMcI karma jaMgalI sArakhI asatAta, janAvarA sArakhI, tyAlA samajaca nasate, bhAnaca nasate, tyAmuLe maga, koNAlA pAhile kI dagaDa mAraNyAsa tayAra hoto. praznakartA : ApaNa azA mANasAMcI dayA ThevAyalA nako kA? dAdAzrI : ThevAyalAca pAhije. jyAlA samaja nasate, tyAcyA prati dayA bhAva ThevAyalA pAhije. tyAlA kAhItarI madata kelI pAhije. maMdabuddhImuLe bicArA tasA karata asato, tyAta maga tyAcA kAya doSa? tyAne jarI dagaDa mAralA, tarI ApaNa tyAcyAzI vaira Thevata nAhI, tyAcyAvara karUNA ThevalI pAhije! garIba-zrImaMta koNatyA karmAne? je ghaData asate, tyAsaca nyAya mAnale tara kalyANa hoUna jAIla. praznakartA : tara dAdA, tumhAlA ase nAhI vATata kI, dona mANase asatIla, tyAtIla eka mANUsa baghato kI hA mANUsa itakA kharAba Ahe, tarI paNa itakyA cAMgalyA sthitIta Ahe ANi mI itakA dharmaparAyaNa (dharmiSTha) Ahe tarI asA duHkhI Ahe. tara tyAce mana dharmApAsUna vimukha hoUna nAhI jANAra kA? dAdAzrI : ase Ahe nA, hA jo duHkhI Ahe tase sarvaca dharmaparAyaNavAle duHkhI nasatAta. zekaDA pAca Takke sukhIhI asatAta. Aja je duHkha Ale Ahe, te ApalyAca karmAcA pariNAma Ahe. Aja to sukhI Ahe, Aja tyAcyAjavaLa paise Aheta ANi to sukha bhogata Ahe, he tyAcyA karmAcA pariNAma Ahe. ANi AtA to je kharAba karma karata Ahe
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________________ karmAce vijJAna tyAcA pariNAma yeIla, tevhA to bhogela. AtA ApaNa je cAMgale karIta Ahota, tyAcA pariNAma jevhA ApalyAlA yeIla tevhA ApaNa bhogU. 56 praznakartA : dAdA, hI tumacI goSTa kharI Ahe. paNa jara vyavahArika dRSTIne pAhile kI, eka mANUsa jhopaDapaTTIta rahAta asela, upAzI asela, tahAnalelA asela ANi samora rAjavADyAta eka mANUsa rahAta asela. jhopaDIvAlA pAhato kI mAjhI dazA azI kA Ahe? mI tara itakA prAmANika Ahe. nokarI karato. tarI mAjhyA mulAMnA khAyalA miLata nAhI. ANi hA mANUsa tara itake sAre ulaTe kAma karato, tarI suddhA to rAjavADyAta rAhato. tara tyAlA rAga yeNAra nAhI kA? to kazAprakAre sthiratA TheU zakela? dAdAzrI : AtA je duHkha bhogata Ahe, te tara pUrvI jI parIkSA dilI Ahe, tyAcA pariNAma AlelA Ahe ANi tyA rAja mahAlAta rAhaNAr2yAne suddhA parIkSA dilI Ahe, tyAcA tyAlA hA pariNAma AlelA Ahe. to pAsa jhAlA Ahe ANi AtA punhA tyAcI nApAsa hoNyAcI lakSaNe ubhI jhAlelI Aheta. ANi hyA garIbAcI pAsa hoNyAcI lakSaNe ubhI jhAlI Aheta. praznakartA : paNa to garIba mANUsa, tyAcI svata:cI mAnasika sthitI jo paryaMta paripakva jhAlI nasela to paryaMta tyAlA kase samajela? dAdAzrI : he tyAlA mAnya hotaca nAhI. mhaNUna hyAta tara to ulaTa jAsta pApa bAMdhato. tyAne he samajaleca pAhije kI he mAjhyAca karmAce phaLa Ahe. karato cAMgale ANi phaLa kharAba praznakartA : AmhI cAMgale karato paNa tyAce phaLa cAMgale miLata nAhI. yAcA artha asA nighato kI pUrvajanmAta kAhI kharAba karma kele asela, te tyAlA kaeNnsala karUna TAkate. dAdAzrI : hoya, kaeNnsala karUna TAkate. AmhI jvArI tara peralI ANi tI moThI jhAlI ANi pUrvajanmAce Apale kharAba karma udayAsa Ale tara zevaTacA pAUsa paData nAhI, mhaNUna jvArI sukUna jAte, ANi jevhA
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________________ karmAce vijJAna 57 puNyAcA jora asela tara tayAra hoUna jAte. anyathA hAtAta Alele paNa hisakAvUna ghetale jAte. mhaNUna cAMgale karma karA kiMvA maga mukti zodhA. donhIpaikI eka mArga nivaDA! yA jagAtUna suTaNyAcA mArga zodhA, kiMvA nehamIsAThI cAMgale karma karata rahA. paNa mANasAlA nehamIsAThI cAMgalI karma karatA yeta nAhIta, vAma mArgI caDhUnaca jAto. kusaMga miLataca rAhato. praznakartA : zubha karma ANi azubha karma oLakhaNyAce tharmAmITara koNate? dAdAzrI : zubha karma yete tevhA ApalyAlA goDI vATate, zAMtI vATate, vAtAvaraNa zAMta vATate ANi azubha karma yete tevhA kaTUtA utpanna hote, mana becaina hote. ayukta karma tApavate ANi yukta karma hRdayAsa AnaMda dete. __ mRtyu naMtara sobata kAya jAte? praznakartA : zubha ANi azubha je karma Aheta, tyAce je pariNAma Aheta te AtA dusar2yA koNatyAhI yonIta gele, tethe tyAMnA bhogAve lAgate nA? dAdAzrI : tethe bhogAveca lAgate. yethUna mRtyu hoto tevhA mULa zuddhAtmA jAto. tyAsobata saMpUrNa AyuSyabhara je zubhAzubha karma kele, te yojanArUpAne, jyAsa kAraNa zarIra mhaNaje kaoNjhala baoNDI mhaTale jAte, te ANi sukSma baoNDI, mhaNaje ilekTrikala baoNDI. he sarva sobata jANAra. dusare kAhIca jAta nAhI. praznakartA : manuSya janma jo miLato, to punhA punhA miLata asato kI maga amuka veLesAThI manuSyAta yeUna punhA dusar2yA yonIta tyAlA jAve lAgate? dAdAzrI : ithUnaca sarva yonImadhye jAta asatAta. AtA javaLapAsa sattara Takke mANase cAra pAyAta jANAra Aheta. ithUna sattara Takke! ANi lokasaMkhyA jhapATyAne kamI hoIla. / arthAt manuSyAtUna janAvarahI hoU zakato, devahI hoU zakato, narkagatIhI miLU zakate ANi punhA manuSyahI banU zakato. jazI karma kelI
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________________ 58 karmAce vijJAna asatIla tyApramANe janma miLato. sadhyA loka pAzavate samAna karma karata Aheta kA? praznakartA : sadhyA tara puSkaLa loka pAzavI karmaca karata Aheta nA! dAdAzrI : tara tithalI TikiTa miLAlI Ahe, rijharvezana jhAlele Ahe. mhaNaje bhesaLa karata asela, binahakkAce khAta asela, upa bhogata asela, khoTe bolata asela, cor2yA karata asela, yA sarvAMcI niMdA karaNyAta arthaca kAya Ahe? tI tyAMcI TikITe tyAMnA miLAlI Aheta! cAra gatita bhaTakaMtI praznakartA : he manuSya khAlacyA yonita jAtAta khare? dAdAzrI : manuSyAtUna naMtara to 'deva' madhye, sarvAta moThA deva banUna ubhA rAhato, hyA jagAta TaoNpamosTa. ANi nIca yoni mhaNaje kazI nIca yoni? ghRNAspada yonita jAto. tyAce nAva aikatAca ghRNA utpanna hote. mANUsa, manuSya janmAtaca karma bAMdhU zakato. bAkI dusar2yA koNatyAhI janmAta karma bAMdhata nAhI. dusar2yA sarva janmAta to karma bhogato ANi yA manuSya janmAta karma bAMdhatohI khare ANi bhogatohI khare, donhIhI hotAta. mAgIla karma bhogata jAto ANi nave karma bAMdhata asato. mhaNaje ithUna cAra gatita bhaTakAyace. ithUnaca jAve lAgate. hyA gAyI-mhazI he je sarva prANI disatAta, he devaloka, tyAMnI phakta karma bhogAyace, tyAMnA karma karaNyAcA adhikAra nasato. praznakartA : paraMtu adhikAMza manuSyAce karma tara cAMgale nasatAtaca nA? dAdAzrI : he tara kaliyuga Ahe, duSamakALa Ahe. mhaNUna bahuteka karma kharAbaca hota asatAta. praznakartA : mhaNaje yethe navIna karma bAMdhale jANAraca nA? dAdAzrI : rAtraM divasa bAMdhale jAta Aheta. june bhogata jAto ANi navIna bAMdhata jAto.
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________________ karmAce vijJAna 59 praznakartA : tara AtA yAcyApekSA dusarA ekhAdA cAMgalA janma miLela kharA? dAdAzrI : kuTheca nAhI. evaDhAca cAMgalA Ahe. dusare tara dona prakArace bhava. ithe jara karja jhAle asela, mhaNaje kharAba karma bAMdhale gele asatIla, tyAsa karja mhaTale jAte. tevhA maga yA prANyAMmadhye jAve lAgate, DebiTa bhogaNyAsAThI. DebiTa jAsta jhAle asela tara narkagatIta jAyace, maga tethe karja pheDUna mhaNaje DebiTa bhogUna punhA parata yAyace. ithe cAMgale karma kele asatIla, tara moThe, ucca prakArace manuSya banatAta, tethe saMpUrNa AyuSya sukha asate. te bhogUna punhA hotA tasAcA tasAca ANi nAhI tara devagatita jAto, kreDiTace sukha bhogaNyAsAThI. paNa kreDiTa pUrNa saMpale, eka lAkha rUpaye pUrNa jhAle, kharca jhAle kI maga punhA parata ithe! praznakartA : dusar2yA sarva janmAMpekSA manuSya janmAce AyuSya jAsta Ahe nA? dAdAzrI : nAhI, ase kAhI nAhI. yA devalokAMce lAkho varSAMce AyuSya asate. praznakartA : paNa deva hoNyAsAThI tara jevhA hI sarva karma pUrNa hotIla tevhA naMbara lAgela nA? dAdAzrI : nAhI, ase kAhI nAhI. jara koNI suparahyumana (mahAmAnava) asela tara devaca hoto. svataHce sukha svataH bhogata nAhI ANi dusar2yAlA devUna TAkato, tyAlA suparahyumana mhaNatAta. to devagatita jAto! praznakartA : svata:lAca sukha nasela, tara to dusar2yAMnA kazA prakAre sukha deU zakela? dAdAzrI : mhaNUnaca nAhI deU zakata nA, paNa ekhAdA asA mANUsa asela, karoDota ekhAdA mANUsa jo svata:ce sukha dusar2yAMnA deta asela, to devagatita jAto. pUrvI tara ase puSkaLa loka hote. zekaDA dona-dona, tInatIna Takke, pAca-pAca Takke hote. AtA tara kadAcita karoDota dona-cAra nighatIla. AtA tara jarI koNAlA duHkha dile nAhI tarI cAMgalA mhaTalA
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________________ karmAce vijJAna jAIla. dusar2yAMnA koNatyAhI prakArace duHkha dile nAhI tara punhA manuSyAta yeU zakela. manuSyAta cAMgalyA ThikANI kI, jithe baMgalA tayAra asela, gADyA tayAra asatIla, tithe janma hoIla ANi pAzavI karma karela, bhesaLa karela, labADI karela, cor2yA karela tara janAvarAta jAve lAgela. praznakartA : tara niyama kAya Ahe? dAdAzrI : jo adhogatita jANArA asela to tara pakaDalA jAta nAhI ANi jo Urdhvagatita jAto azA manuSyAce karma halake asatAta, tara tyAlA lagecaca polisavAlyAkaDUna pakaDavUna detAta. tyAmuLe tyAce puDhe vAma mArgAlA jANyAce thAMbate ANi tyAce bhAva badalatAta. nisarga koNAsa madata karato? kI jo jaDa Ahe, tyAlA jaDa hoU deto ANi jo halakA Ahe, tyAlA halake hoU deto. halake karmavAlA Urdhvagatita jAto, jaDa karmavAlA adhogatita jAto. ase nisargAce niyama Aheta. AtA jara ekhAdI vyakti kI jyAne kadhIhI corI kelI nasela, tyAne jara ekhAdyAveLI corI kelI, tara to lagecaca pakaDalA jAto ANi sarAIta cora pakaDalA jAta nAhI. kAraNa kI tyAce karma bhArI Aheta mhaNUna tyAta pUrNa mArksa pAhijeta nA ! mAinasa mArksa suddhA pUrNa haveta nA ! taraca jaga cAlela nA? manuSya janmAtaca bAMdhalI jAtAta karma praznakartA : mhaNUnaca mI vicArato kI manuSya janmAzivAya dusarA ekhAdA asA janma Ahe kI nAhI jyAta kamI karma bAMdhalI jAta asatIla? 60 dAdAzrI : dusar2yA ThikANI karma bAMdhale jAtaca nAhI. dusar2yA kuThalyAhI janmAta karma bAMdhale jAta nAhI, phakta itheca bAMdhalI jAtAta, ANi jithe karma bAMdhalI jAta nAhIta, tethIla loka kAya mhaNatAta ? kI ithe yA jelamadhye kazAlA AlAta? karma bAMdhale jAtAta azA jAgesa tara muktatA mhaTalI jAte. ANi hI tara (jithe karma bAMdhalI jAta nAhI) jela mhaTale jAIla. praznakartA : manuSyajanmAtaca karma bAMdhale jAte. cAMgalI karma paNa itheca bAMdhalI jAtAta nA?
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________________ karmAce vijJAna dAdAzrI : cAMgalI karma paNa itheca bAMdhalI jAtAta ANi vAITa suddhA itheca bAMdhalI jAtAta. he manuSya karma bAMdhata asatAta. tyAta jara lokAMnA nukasAna karaNAre, lokAMnA duHkha deNAre karma asatIla tara te janAvara gatita ANi narkagatita jAtAta. lokAMnA sukha deNAre karma asatIla tara te manuSyAta yetAta ANi devagatita jAtAta. mhaNaje te jase karma karatAta, tyAnusAra gati hota asate. AtA gati jhAlI mhaNaje te bhogUna jhAlyA naMtara punhA ithe yAyace. karma bAMdhaNyAcA adhikAra phakta mANasAlAca Ahe, itara koNAlAhI nAhI, ANi jyAlA bAMdhaNyAcA adhikAra Ahe tyAlA cArahI gatita bhaTakAve lAgate. ANi jara karma nAhI kele, bilakula karmaca nAhI kele tara mokSAlA jAto. manuSyAtUna mokSAlA jAtA yete. dusar2yA koNatyAhI yonItUna mokSAlA jAU zakata nAhI. karma karata nAhI ase tumhI pAhile kA? praznakartA : nAhI, ase pAhile nAhI. dAdAzrI : tumhI pAhile Aheta kA karma na karaNAre? yAMnI pAhile Aheta ANi tumhI nAhI pahileta?! he janAvare vagaire je sarva Aheta te khAtAta, pitAta, mArAmArI karatAta, laDhatAta tarIhI tyAMnA karma bAMdhalI jAta nAhIta. azI mANasAMcIhI karma bAMdhalI jANAra nAhI azI sthitI zakya Ahe paraMtu jara 'svataH' karmAcA kartA banalA nAhI tara ANi karma bhogela evaDheca! mhaNaje yethe, AmacyAkaDe yevUna 'selpha riyalAyajha' ce jJAna (AtmajJAna) prApta karUna ghetale tara maga tyAMce karmAce kartepaNa suTUna jAte, karAyaceca suTUna jAte, naMtara bhogAyaceca rAhate. ahaMkAra asela to paryaMta karmAcA kartA. ATha janmAMparyaMtacI zillaka sobata praznakartA : jyA-jyA yonIta karma bAMdhalI jAta nAhIta, phakta pUrva karmaca bhogAvI lAgatAta, tara tyA jIvAcA puDhIla janma kazAprakAre hoto? dAdAzrI : he itake sarva Ahe kI, mANUsa ithUna gelA, ANi
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________________ karmAce vijJAna gAyIcA janma miLAlA, tara gAyIcA janma bhogela. to pUrNa jhAlA, tyAnaMtara bakarIcA janma miLela, bakarIcAca janma miLela ase nAhI, vATela to janma, tyAcA hizoba asela tyApramANe miLela. DijhAina asela tyApramANe miLela. naMtara maga, gADhavAcA janma miLela. zaMbhara-donaze varSa ase bhaTakUna yeIla. mhaNaje sarva DebiTa bhogale jAte. naMtara punhA ithe manuSya janmAta parata yeto. ittara sarva ThikANI ekA janmAnaMtara dusarA janma hoto, to tithe karma kelyAmuLe hota nAhI tara agodarace karma bhogale gele tyAmuLe hoto. he eka AvaraNa gele ANi dusare AvaraNa Ale, dusare AvaraNa gele ANi tisare AvaraNa Ale. azA prakAre sarva AvaraNa bhogale jAtAta mhaNaje sarva ATha janma pUrNa hotAta tevhA punhA manuSya janmAta yeto. jAstIta jAsta ATha janma itara gatita bhaTakUna punhA manuSyAta yeUnaca jAto. asA karmAcA niyama Ahe! jithe jAto, tithe manuSyAcyA lAyakIce karma tyAcyAjavaLa zillaka rAhateca, devagatita jAto tarIhI. mhaNaje zillaka asalyAmuLe parata yeto. mhaNaje hI zillaka TheUna dusare sarva karma bhogale jAtAta. praznakartA : manuSyAta yeto, tyA naMtara tyAce jIvana kazAprakAre cAlate? tyAce jase bhAva asatIla tyAnusAraca cAlate? tyAcyA koNakoNatyA karmAcyA AdhArAvara tyAce jIvana cAlate? dAdAzrI : tyAcyAjavaLa manuSyajanmAce karma tara zillaka Aheca. hI zillaka tara ApalyAjavaLa Aheca, paNa deNe (karja) jhAle asela tara te bhogUna jhAlyAnaMtara punhA yethe yA, ase mhaTale Ahe. kreDiTa jhAle asela tevhA kreDiTa bhogUna punhA ithe yA. hI zillaka tara Aheca ApalyAjavaLa. hI zillaka kamI paDela azI nAhI Ahe. hI zillaka kevhA suTate? jevhA kartApada suTela tevhA suTela. tevhA mokSAlA nighUna jAto. anyathA kartApada suTaNAraca nAhI nA! ahaMkAra naSTa jhAlA taraca suTela. ahaMkAra asato mhaNUna tI karma bhogUna punhA ithalyA itheca yeto. praznakartA : itara sarva yonimadhUna punhA manuSyAta yeto, tara jevhA yeto tevhA kuThe janma gheto? mAsevAlyAMcyA yethe gheto kI rAjAcyA yethe gheto?
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________________ karmAce vijJAna dAdAzrI : ithe manuSya yonita svataH javaLa je sAmAna tayAra TheUna gelA hotA nA, te ANi dusare he je karja jhAle Ahe, te karja pheDUna yeto ANi punhA tithalyA titheca yeto ANi tyA sAmAnApAsUna punhA suru karato. arthAt ApaNa jase bAjArAta jAto ANi tethIla sarva kAmaM saMpavUna punhA gharI paratato. tyAcapramANe he ghara Ahe. punhA ithalyA itheca yAyace. ithe he ghara Ahe. ithe jevhA ahaMkAra samULa naSTa hoIla, tevhA ithe paNa nAhI rahAyace. mokSAlA nighUna jAyace basa. itara janmAta ahaMkAra vAparalA jAta nAhI. jithe bhogAyace Ahe, tithe ahaMkAra vAparalA jAta nAhI. mhaNUna karmaca bAMdhale jAta nAhI. hyA reDyAlA, gAIlA, kuNAlAca ahaMkAra nasato. disate khare kI hA ghoDA ahaMkArI Ahe paNa to DiscArja ahaMkAra, kharA ahaMkAra nAhI. kharA ahaMkAra asela tara karma bAMdhale jAte. mhaNaje ahaMkArAmuLe punhA ithe yeta asato. ahaMkAra jara saMpalA tara mokSAlA jAto. riTarna TikiTa ghetalI Ahe, prANyAMtUna praznakartA : ApaNa sAMgitale kI karmAce phaLa miLate, tara he je prANI Aheta te punhA manuSyAta yeU zakatAta kA? dAdAzrI : teca yetAta. teca AtA Ale Aheta, tyAMcI saMkhyA vADhalI Ahe ANi teca bhesaLa karata Aheta hI sarva. praznakartA : tyA prANyAMnI koNate satkarma kele asatIla kI te manuSya banale? dAdAzrI : tyAMnA satkarma karAve lAgata nAhI. mI tumhAlA samajAvato. eka mANUsa karjadAra jhAlA mhaNUna karjabAjArI mhaTalA jAto. loka tyAlA karjabAjArI mhaNatAta; naMtara jara tyAne karja pheDale tara tyAlA karjabAjArI mhaNatIla kA? praznakartA : nAhI, maga nAhI mhaNata. dAdAzrI : tyAcapramANe ithUna prANyAMmadhye jAtAta nA, te karja pheDaNyAsAThIca. karja pheDUna parata ithe yeto ANi jara devagatita jAto tara kreDiTa (jamA) bhogUna punhA itheca yeto.
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________________ 64 karmAce vijJAna ase AmaMtrita karatAta adhogatisa praznakartA : manuSyAlA janAvarAMcAca janma miLela, he kazAprakAre samajela? dAdAzrI : tyAMcI sarva lakSaNeca sAMgata asatAta. AtAce tyAce je vicAra Aheta nA, te vicAraca pAzavatece yetAta. kase yetAta? koNAce bhogUna gheU, koNAce khAUna TAkU. koNAce ase karU? mRtyucyA veLI phoTo suddhA janAvarAMcAca paDato. praznakartA : AMbyAcI koya jara ApaNa peralI tara AMbyAceca jhADa hote, tyAcapramANe jara manuSya marato tara manuSyAtUna punhA manuSyaca banato kA? dAdAzrI : hoya, manuSyAtUna punhA arthAta yA meTaranITI vaoNrDamadhye strIcyA poTI kutrA janmAlA yeta nAhI. samajate Ahe nA! paNa manuSyAta jyAlA sajjanatece vicAra asatAta mhaNaje mAnavatece guNa asatIla tara maga punhA to manuSyAta yeto. ANi svataHcyA hakkAce je asela te dusar2yAsa upabhogaNyAsAThI deto to devagatita jAto, to supara hyumana mhaTalA jAto. svata:cI strI bhogaNyAsa harakata nAhI, te hakkAce mhaTale jAte, paNa binahakkAce bhogU naye. he ase je bhogaNyAce vicAra Aheta teca tyAcI manuSyAtUna dusar2yA janmI janAvarAta jANyAcI lakSaNe Aheta. to vhisA Ahe. ApaNa jara tyAcA vhisA pAhUna ghetalA nA, tara mAhitI hote. praznakartA : karmAcA siddhAMta asA Ahe kI, manuSyAlA tyAce karma manuSya yonitaca bhogAve lAgatAta? dAdAzrI : nAhI. karma tara ithalyA ithe bhogAyace Ahe. paNa je vicAra kelele asatIla kI koNAce bhogUna gheU, koNAce paLavUna gheU, kI koNAce he karUna gheU, ase saMkalpa-vikalpa kele asatIla, te maga tyAlA tithe gheUna jAtAta. kelelI karma tara to ithalyA ithe bhogUna gheto. pAzavI karma kele asela te tara ithalyA ithe bhogUna gheto. tyAta harakata nAhI. DoLyAMnA disela ase pAzavI karma kele asatIla te ithalyA itheca bhogAve lAgatAta. te kazAprakAre bhogato? lokAMmadhye niMdA hoIla, lokaM
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________________ karmAce vijJAna dhikkAratIla. paNa je pAzavI vicAra kele, kharAba saMkalpa - vikalpa kele, kI ase karAyalA have, tase karAyalA have, ase upabhogAyalA pAhije. azA yojanA kelyA. tyA yojanA tyAlA janAvaragatita gheUna jAtAta. yojanA AkhatAta nA Ata ? nAhI Akhata kA? tyA janAvaragatita gheUna jAtAta. 65 yAta bhogaNArA koNa? praznakartA : cAMgale karma kele tara puNya bAMdhale jAte ANi vAITa karma kele tara pApa. he pApa-puNya koNa bhogata asato zarIra kI AtmA ? dAdAzrI : he pApa-puNya jo karata asato toca bhogata asato. koNa bhogato? ahaMkAraca karata asato ANi ahaMkAraca bhogata asato. zarIra bhogata nasate ANi AtmA paNa bhogata nasato. he ahaMkAra bhogata asato. zarIrAsobatacA ahaMkAra asela tara zarIrAsobata bhogato. zarIrAzivAya kelelA ahaMkAra zarIrAzivAya bhogato. phakta mAnasika rUpAneca bhogato. praznakartA : mRtyu naMtara svarga kiMvA narka ase kAhI Ahe kA? dAdAzrI : mRtyu naMtara svarga ANi narka donhIhI Ahe. praznakartA : mhaNaje kharAba karma kele asatIla tara narkAta koNa jAto? AtmA jAto kA ? dAdAzrI : are AtmA ANi zarIra donhI sobataca asatAta nA ! praznakartA : marUna jAto tevhA zarIra tara itheca suTUna gelele asate nA? dAdAzrI : naMtara tithe navIna zarIra banate. narkAta vegaLyA prakArace zarIra banate, tithe pAr2yAsArakhe zarIra asate. praznakartA : tithe zarIra bhogata asate kI AtmA bhogata asato? dAdAzrI : ahaMkAra bhogata asato. jyAne narkagatice karma kelele asate toca bhogato.
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________________ karmAce vijJAna hiTalarane kase karma bAMdhale? hiTalarane hyA lokAMnA mArale, tyAce phaLa kA nAhI miLAle? tyAne jyAMnA mArale, te sarva ekatra kazAmuLe jamale? tyAlA te plena kuThUna miLAle? he sarva ekatra kuThUna jhAle? ekatra jamale tevhA mArale mhaNaje te karmaphaLa hote tyA bicAr2yAMce? tyAcehI phaLa punhA narkagati yeIla. zAstrakArAMnI puDhe sAMgitale Ahe kI, ithe je marUna gele ANi jagAta niMdanIya jhAle Aheta te narkagatita kiMvA janAvaragatita jAtIla. jagAta jara prazaMsanIya jhAle ANi tyAMcI kirtI sarvatra pasaralI tara te devagatita kiMvA jAsta jhAle tara manuSyAta jAtAta! mhaNaje hyAce punhA phaLa tara yeteca. mhaNaje he lokAMcyA tarAjUne pAhUna ghyAve. sattAdhIzacA hizoba prajesobata praznakartA : ekhAdyA dezAce sattAdhIza Ahe, mhaNaje tyA dezAce dharmagurU mhaNA, kI Aja saMpUrNa sattA tyAMcyAca hAtAta Ahe. te tyA dezAce pramukha mhaTale jAtAta. tara AtA lAkho loka marata Aheta. jagAtIla sarva dezAMnI tyAlA vinaMtI kelI kI tumhI hyAce samAdhAna karA. paNa to samAdhAna karaNyAsa tayAra nAhI ANi lAkho lokAMcA saMhAra hotaca Ahe. he kase karma Ahe? tyAcyAsobata lAkho mANasAMcA kAya RNAnubaMdha Ahe? dAdAzrI : tI mANasaM tara tyAMce karma bhogata Ahe. karma bAMdhata nAhI. paNa te sarva bhogata Aheta. praznakartA : ANi to jo, mArata Ahe tyAce? dAdAzrI : to tara karma bAMdhata Ahe. to narkagatita jAIla. praznakartA : he je sarvajaNa marata Aheta, tyAce nimitta tara mAraNArA banata Ahe nA? te koNatyA kAraNAmuLe? dAdAzrI : nimitta banata Ahe ANi mhaNUnaca tara to narkAta jAIla. praznakartA : narkAta jAIla he barobara Ahe. paNa he ghaDale kazAprakAre? koNatyA hizobAne ghaDale asela?
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________________ karmAce vijJAna dAdAzrI : lokAMcA hizoba, tyAcyAsobatacA hizoba nAhI, lokAMnI gunhe kele hote tyAmuLe ase nimitta miLAle. 67 lokAMnI gunhe kele hote, tyAmuLe ase koNate tarI nimitta bheTale ANi tyAMnA mArUna TAkale. hyA sarvAMce karma vyaktigata nAhI. he vyaktigata karma kevhA mhaTale jAIla? ase tumhI sahaja bolata nasAla ANi tumhAlA baghUna malA AtUna uphALUna Ale, tara te jhAle vyaktigata, dUra rAhUna kAma jhAle tyAlA vyaktigata mhaNata nAhI. he mhaTale jAte sAmUhika karmodaya praznakartA : AtA hyA jagAta je bhUkaMpa hotAta ANi jvAlAmukhI phuTatAta, he sarva koNatI zakti karate? dAdAzrI : sarva 'vyavasthita zakti. ' vyavasthita zakti sarvakAhI karate. eviDansa miLAyalA haveta. sarva eviDansa jamale athavA tyAta jara thoDese jarI kacce rAhile asela tara te ( bAkIce ) ekatrIta jhAlyAvara lageca phuTatAta jorAta. praznakartA: he vAdaLa, tuphAna vagaire vyavasthIta pAThavite kA? dAdAzrI : tara dusare koNa pAThavaNAra? he vAdaLa tara saMpUrNa muMbaIta asela, paNa bareca jaNa vicAratAta 'vAdaLa Ale kI nAhI?' ase vicAratAta. 'are mUrkhAno, kAya bolatA?' tevhA to mhaNato, 'AmhI ajUnaparyaMta pAhile nAhI, vAdaLa AmacyA yethe Aleca nAhI.' he ase asate sarva. vAdaLa muMbaIta sarvAMnA sparzata nAhI. koNAlA amuka prakAre sparzela, koNAce tara saMpUrNa gharaca uDavUna TAkate, ase joradAra ekadama ANi koNAcyA caTayA paDalelyA asatIla, tara tyAMnA kAhI suddhA hota nAhI. sarva kAhI paddhatInusAra kAma karata Ahe. vAdaLa Ale mhaNUna kAhI bhitI bALagaNyAcI garaja nAhI. sarva 'vyavasthita zaktI' pAThavate. praznakartA : he bhUkaMpa hota asatAta, sAyaklona ( vAdaLa) yete, laDhAyA hotAta, he sarva hAni - vRddhicyA AdhArAvara nAhI kA ?
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________________ karmAce vijJAna dAdAzrI : nAhI, he sarva karmAcyA udayAcyA AdhArAvara Ahe. sarvajaNa udaya bhogata Aheta. manuSyAMcI vRddhi hota asela tarIhI bhUkaMpa hota rAhatIla. jara hAni-vRddhicyA AdhArAvara avalaMbUna asela tara hoNAra nAhI nA? praznakartA : mhaNaje jyAlA bhogAyace Ahe tyAcA udaya kA? dAdAzrI : manuSyAcA udaya, prANyAMcA, sarvAMcAca. hoya, sAmUhika udaya yeto. pahA nA, hirozimA ANi nAgAsAkIcA udaya AlA hotA nA! praznakartA : jyApramANe ekA vyaktIne pApa kele, tyApramANe sAmUhika pApa kele tara tyAcA badalA sAmUhika rityA miLato kA? eka vyakti svataH ekaTA corI karaNyAsa gelA ANi dahA vyakti sobata daroDA TAkAyalA gele, tara tyAcA daMDa sAmUhika miLata asela kA? dAdAzrI : hoya. phaLa saMpUrNa miLela, paNa dahAhI lokAMnA kamIjAsta pramANAta. tyAMce kase bhAva Aheta tyAAdhArAvara. ekhAdI vyakti tara ase mhaNata asela kI yA mAjhyA kAkAMcyA gharI malA nAIlAjAne jAve lAgale, ase tyAce bhAva asela. mhaNaje jitakA sTrA~ga (majabUta) bhAva Ahe, tyAnusAra sarva hizoba pheDAyace Aheta. agadI karekTa. dharmakATyAsArakhe. praznakartA : paNa je he naisargika kopa hota asatIla, jase kI ekhAdyA ThikANI vimAna kosaLale ANi itake jaNa mArale gele, taseca ekhAdyA ThikANI jvAlAmukhI phuTalA ANi dona hajAra loka mRtyu pAvale. he tyA sarvAMnI sobata kelelyA karmAMcyA sAmUhika daMDAcA pariNAma asela kA? dAdAzrI : tyA sarvAMcA hizoba Ahe sagaLA. phakta hizobavAle tyAta pakaDale jAtAta, dusarA koNIhI pakaDalA jAta nAhI. Aja ithUna muMbaIlA gelA asela ANi dusar2yA divazI ithe bhUkaMpa hoIla ANi muMbaIvAle tithUna ithe Alele asatIla. te muMbaIvAle ithe marUna jAtAta, mhaNaje asA sarva hizoba Ahe. praznakartA : mhaNaje AtA je itake sarva loka jithe-tithe marata
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________________ karmAce vijJAna 69 Aheta, donaze-pAcazecyA saMkhyeta. je pUrvI kadhIhI itake sarva samuhAta marata asalyAce pAhaNyAta Ale navhate tara evaDhe sarva pApa samuhAta hota asela? dAdAzrI : pUrvI samuha navhateca nA! AtA tara lAla jheMDevAle nighAle tara kitI asatIla? pAMDhare jheMDevAle kitI asatIla? hallI samuha Aheta mhaNUna samuhAMce kAma. pUrvI samuha navhateca nA! __praznakartA : haM... arthAta naisargika kopa, hA samuhAcAca pariNAma Ahe nA! hA duSkALa paDaNe, ekhAdyA ThikANI khUpa pUra yeNe, ekhAdyA ThikANI bhUkaMpa hoUna lAkho loka mRtyumukhI paDaNe. dAdAzrI : he sarva hyA lokAMcAca pariNAma. praznakartA : mhaNaje jyAveLI daMDa miLAyacA asela, tevhA vATela tithUna oDhUna ithe yeUnaca gelA asela? dAdAzrI : hA nisargaca tyAlA tithe gheUna yeto ANi zijavUna TAkato, zekUna TAkato. tyAlA vimAnAta ANUna vimAnAlA pADato. praznakartA : ho dAdA, azI udAharaNe pAhaNyAsa miLatAta kI jo jANAra asela, to kAhI kAraNAmuLe jAta nAhI ANi jo kadhIhI jAta nasela to tyAce TikITa gheUna vimAnAta jAUna basato. naMtara vimAna paDUna tuTate. dAdAzrI : hizoba Ahe sarva, paddhatazIra nyAya. agadI dharmAcyA kATyApramANe. kAraNa kI tyAcA koNI mAlaka nAhI, mAlaka asela tara anyAya hoIla. praznakartA : eara iMDiyAce vimAna tuTale, te sarvAMce nimitta hote, te vyavasthIta hote kA ? dAdAzrI : hizobaca, hizobAzivAya kAhI ghaData nAhI. pApa-puNyAce hota nAhI plasa-mAinasa praznakartA : pApakarma ANi puNyakarmAce plasa-mAinasa (vajAberIja) hoUna neTamadhye rijhalTa yeto kA, bhogatAnA?
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________________ 70 karmAce vijJAna dAdAzrI : nAhI, plasa-mAinasa hota nAhI. paNa tyAce bhogaNe kamI karU zakato. he jaga Ahe nA tevhApAsUna plasa-mAinasacA niyamaca nAhI. nAhItara akkalavAlyA lokAMnIca phAyadA uThavUna ghetalA asatA, kAraNa kI zaMbhara puNya kele ANi dahA pApaM kelI, tara dahA kamI karUna mAjhe navvada puNya Aheta te jamA karUna ghyA, ase mhaTale asate. tara akkalavAlyAMnA sarvAMnA tara majA yeIla. he tara sAMgatAta, he puNya bhoga ANi naMtara hI dahA pApaM bhoga. praznakartA : dAdA, AmacyAkaDUna ahaMkArAzivAya koNatehI satkarma jhAle kiMvA ekhAdyA saMsthelA, haoNspiTala ityAdIlA paise dile tara ApalyA (vAITa) karmAnusAra je ApalyAlA bhogAve lAgaNAra Ahe te kamI hote, hI goSTa kharI Ahe kA? dAdAzrI : nAhI, kamI hota nAhI. kamI-jAsta hota nAhI. tyAne dusare karma bAMdhale jAtAta. dusare puNyAce karma bAMdhale jAte. paNa jara ApaNa ekhAdyAlA ThosA mArUna Alo (duHkha dile) tara tyAce phaLa tara bhogAveca lAgate, nAhI tara he sarva vyApArI loka te pApa kamI karUna phakta naphAca ThevatIla. he ase nAhI. niyama khUpa suMdara Ahe. eka ThosA mAralA asela, tara tyAce phaLa miLela. zaMbhara puNyAtUna dona pApaM kamI hoNAra nAhIta. dona pApahI rAhaNAra ANi zaMbhara puNyahI rAhaNAra. donhIhI vegavegaLe bhogAyace. praznakartA : mhaNaje he zubhakarma karato ANi azubha karma karato, hyA donhIMce phaLa vegavegaLe miLate kA? dAdAzrI : azubhalA azubha phaLa detoca. zubhalA zubha phaLa deIla. kAhIhI kamI-jAsta hota nAhI. bhagavaMtAkaDe kAyadA kasA Ahe? kI tumhI Aja zubha karma kele mhaNaje zaMbhara rUpaye dAna dile, tara te zaMbhara rUpaye jamA karatIla ANi ekhAdyAlA zivI deUna pAca rUpayAcI udhArI kelI, tara tI tumacyA khAtyAmadhye udhArI lihatIla, te paMcyANNava jamA nAhI karaNAra. te pAca udhAra paNa ThevatAta ANi zaMbhara jamA paNa karatAta. khUpa pakke Aheta. nAhI tara hyA vyApArI lokAMnA punhA duHkhaca nAhI miLaNAra. ase asela nA tara jamA-udhAra karUna tyAMce jamAca rAhile asate ANi
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________________ karmAce vijJAna 71 maga tara koNIhI mokSAlA gelAca nasatA. yA ithe saMpUrNa divasa puNya ANi puNyaca asate. maga koNa jAIla mokSAta? hA kAyadAca asA Ahe kI, zaMbhara jamAhI karato ANi pAca udhArahI karato. berIja-vajAbAkI nAhI karata. mhaNUna mANasAne je jamA kele asela te parata bhogAve lAgate, te puNya suddhA AvaData nAhI maga, khUpa puNya jamA kele asela nA, dahA divasa, paMdharA divasa lagna-samAraMbha vagaire cAlU asatAta tyAveLI khANyApiNyAcI caMgaLa hote paraMtu zevaTI tehI AvaData nAhI, tyAcA kaMTALA yeto. khapa puNyAtahI kaMTALA yeto. khUpa pApAtahI kaMTALA yeto. paMdharA divasAMparyaMta senTa ANi attare copaData asatIla, khUpa jevaNa khAU ghAlata asatIla, tarIhI khicaDI khANyAsAThI gharI paLUna jAto. kAraNa kI he khare sukha nAhI. kalpita sukha Ahe. khar2yA sukhAcA kadhIhI abhAva hota nAhI. AtmyAce je khare sukha Ahe, tyAcA abhAva kadhIca hota nAhI. he tara kalpita sukha Ahe. karmabaMdhanAtUna mukticA mArga praznakartA : purnajanmAta karmabaMdhanAtUna suTaNyAcA mArga kAya Ahe? AmhAlA sAdhAraNapaNe ase mAhita Ahe kI, ApaNa mAgIla janmI cAMgale kiMvA vAITa sagaLe karma keleleca Ahe, tara yApAsUna suTakA miLavaNyAcA mArga koNatA? dAdAzrI : jara ekhAdA tulA trAsa deta asela, tara tU AtA samajUna jAyace kI, mAgIla janmAta mI tyAMcyAsobata kharAba karma kelele Aheta, tyAce he phaLa deta Ahe. tara tulA zAMtI ANi samateta rAhUna tyAcA nikAla lAvAyacA Ahe. svataH zAMta rAhU zakata nAhI ANi punhA tU navIna bIja TAkato. arthAta pUrvajanmIce baMdhana soDaNyAcA ekaca mArga Ahe, zAMtI ANi samatA. tyAcyAsAThI kharAba vicAra suddhA yAyalA nako. ANi mAjhAca hizoba mI bhogata Ahe ase asAyalA have. to je karata Ahe, te mAjhyA pApAcyA AdhArAvaraca, mI mAjheca pApa bhogata Ahe, ase vATAyalA pAhije, taraca suTakA hoIla. ANi kharokhara tumacyAca karmAcyA udayAmuLe to tumhAlA duHkha deto. to tara nimittaca Ahe. saMpUrNa jaga nimitta Ahe, du:kha deNArA,
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________________ karmAce vijJAna rastyAtUna Apale zaMbhara DaoNlara paLavaNArA, sarvaca nimitta Aheta. tumacAca hizoba Ahe. tumhAlA he pahilyA naMbarace bakSisa kuThUna miLAle? hyAMnA kA miLata nAhI? zaMbhara DaoNlara paLavUna nele, tyAsa bakSisa nAhI mhaTale jANAra kA? karma bhogaNyAta, prArthanece mahatva praznakartA : dAdA, malA ase vicArAyace Ahe kI je prArabdha banUna tayAra jhAle Ahe kI, koNI AjArI paDaNAra Ahe kiMvA koNAce kAhI nukasAna hoNAra Ahe, tara prArthanene te badalU zakate kA? dAdAzrI : ase Ahe kI, prArabdhAce bhAga Ahe, prArabdhAce prakAra asatAta. eka prakAra asA asato kI to prArthanA kelyAne uDUna jAto. dusarA prakAra asA Ahe kI tumhI jara sAdhAraNa purUSArtha kelA tara to uDUna jAto, ANi tisarA prakAra asA Ahe kI tumhI vATela to puruSArtha kelA tarI to bhogalyAzivAya suTakAca hota nAhI. khUpa cikaTa asato. jase ekhAdA mANUsa ApalyA kapaDyAvara thukalA, tyAsa ase dhuvAyalA gelo ANi te DAga jara sAdhe asela tara pANI TAkalyAvara dhutale jAIla. paraMtu teca khUpa cikaTa asela tara? praznakartA : nighata nAhI. dAdAzrI : azAca prakAre karmahI cikaTa asatAta. tyAMnA nikAcita karma mhaTale Ahe. praznakartA : paNa karma khUpaca cikaTa asela tara prArthanene tyAvara kAhIhI pheraphAra hota nAhI kA? dAdAzrI : kAhIhI badala hota nAhI. paNa prArthanene tyAveLI sukha vATate. praznakartA : bhogaNyAsAThI zakti miLate? dAdAzrI : nAhI, he je tumhAlA du:kha Ale Ahe nA! prArthanemuLe du:khAta sukhAcA bhAga vATato. paNa prArthanA rAhU zakela, he kaThINa Ahe. saMyoga
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________________ karmAce vijJAna kharAba asatIla ANi mana jevhA bighaDalele asate tyAveLI prArthanA rAhaNe kaThINa Ahe. tevhA jara prArthanA rAhilI tara ati uttama mhaTale jAIla. tyAveLI dAdA bhagavAnAMsArakhyAMnA AThavUna bolavale, kI je svataH zarIrAta rahAta nAhI, zarIrAce mAlaka hota nAhIta, tyAMnA jara AThavUna bolAvale tara rAhU zakate, nAhItara rAhaNAra nAhI. praznakartA : nAhItara tyA saMyogAta prArthanA AThavataca nAhI? 73 dAdAzrI : AThavaNaca yeta nAhI. AThavaNaca uDavUna dete, sagaLe bhAnaca harapUna jAte. devI- devatAMcyA navasAce baMdhana praznakartA : koNatyAhI devI-devatAMjavaLa navasa kelyAne karmabaMdhana hote kA? dAdAzrI : navasa kelyAne karmabaMdhana avazya hote. navasa mhaNaje kAya kI ApaNa tyAMcI meharabAnI mAgitalI. mhaNUna te meharabAnI karatAtahI, mhaNUna tumhI tyAMnA tyAcyA badalyAta kAhItarI detAta ANi tyAmuLeca karma bAMdhale jAte. praznakartA : saMta purUSAcyA sahavAsAne karmabaMdhana suTatAta kA ? dAdAzrI : karmabaMdhana kamI hotAta ANi puNyAce karma bAMdhale jAtAta paNa te tyAlA nukasAna karata nAhI. pApAce baMdhana bAMdhale jAta nAhI. jAgRtI karmabaMdhanAcyA samora... praznakartA : karma bAMdhale jANAra nAhI yAsAThI upAya koNatA ? dAdAzrI : he sAMgitale nA, lageca bhagavaMtAlA ase sAMgUna dyAve, kI arere! mI ase-ase kharAba vicAra kele. AtA he je pAhuNe Ale Aheta te tara tyAMcA hizoba asela toparyaMta rAhatIla. paNa ' he AtA kuThUna Ale, mele!' ase malA vATale mhaNUna mI to hizoba bAMdhalA. tyAcI mI kSamA mAgato, punhA ase karaNAra nAhI.
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________________ 74 karmAce vijJAna praznakartA : ekhAdI vyakti kuNAcA khUna karela ANi naMtara punhA bhagavaMtAlA pazcAtApa karUna ase sAMgela, tara kazAprakAre karma suTela? dAdAzrI : hoya, suTela. khUna karUna khUza hoIla tara kharAba karma bAMdhale jAtAta ANi khUna karUna asA pazcAtApa kelyAne karma halake hotAta! praznakartA : vATela te karela tarI karma tara bAMdhaleca gele nA? dAdAzrI : bAMdhale jAUna suTatahI Ahe. khUna jhAlA nA, te karma suTale. tyAveLI karma kevhA bAMdhale jAte? tara manAta ase vATale kI, hA khUna karAyalAca pAhije. tara tyAmuLe punhA navIna karma bAMdhale gele. he karma pUrNa suTale kiMvA suTateveLI pazcAtApa kelA nA, tara suTatA yeIla. mArale, heca khUpa moThe nukasAna karato. he mArale, tyAmuLe apakirtI hoIla, zarIrAta vividha prakArace roga utpanna hotIla, bhogAve lAgatIla. ithalyA itheca bhogAyace. navIna cikaTa karma bAMdhale jANAra nAhI. he karmaphaLa Ahe, te bhogAyace Ahe. mArale te karmAcyA udayAneca mArale. Ahe ANi mArale mhaNUna karmaphaLa bhogAve lAgela. paNa hRdayApAsUna pazcAtApa karela tara navIna karma Dhile hoUna jAtIla. mAralyAne navIna karma kevhA bAMdhale jAte? kI mArAyalAca pAhije, he bAMdhale navIna karma. rAjIkhuzIne mArale tara cikaTa karma bAMdhale jAte ANi pazcAtApapUrvaka kele tara karma Dhile hoUna jAtAta. ullAsapurvaka bAMdhalele pApa karma pazcAtApAne naSTa hotAta. ekA garIba mANasAlA tyAcI patnI ANi mule trAsa deta asatIla kI tumhI AmhAlA mAMsAhAra khAU ghAlata nAhI. tevhA to mhaNato, 'paise nAhIta, kuThUna khAU ghAlU?' tara te mhaNatIla, 'harINa mArUna ANA.' tara tyAne cUpacApa jAUna harINa mArUna ANale ANi khAU ghAtale. AtA yAcA tyAlA doSa lAgalA. ANi taseca eka rAjAcA mulagA hotA, to zikAra karAyalA gelA, ANi tyAne haraNAce zikAra kele paNa to zikAra karUna khUza jhAlA. AtA harINa tara tyA doghAMnIhI mArale. hyAne svata:cyA mauja-majesAThI mArale ANi tyA garIba mANasAne khANyAsAThI mArale. AtA jo khAta Ahe, tyAlA tyAce phaLa mhaNUna to manuSyAtUna prANI hoto, to garIba mANUsa! ANi rAjakumAra maujamajesAThI mArato, to khAta nAhI, samoracyAlA mArUna TAkato.
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________________ karmAce vijJAna svata:cyA kuThalyAhI phAyadyAzivAya, svataHlA kuThalyAhI prakAre phAyadA hota nAhI ANi nAhaka zikAra karUna mArUna TAkato. mhaNUna tyAce phaLa tyAlA narkagati yete. karma ekaca prakArace paNa bhAva vegavegaLe. garIba mANasAlA tara tyAcI mule hairANa karIta hotI mhaNUna bicAr2yAne haraNAlA mArale. ANi hA rAjakumAra tara svata:cyA maujamajesAThI jIvAMnA mArato. zikAra karaNyAcA chaMda asato nA! naMtara harINa tithalyA tithe paDUna rAhile, tyAce tyAlA kAhI paDalele nAhI. paNa naMtara to kAya mhaNato? pahA, kasA acUka nizANA lAvalA ANi tyAlA khAlI pADale. he vAhatUkIce niyama ApaNa nAhI samajalo, tara maga vAhatUkIta samorAsamora mArUnaca TAkatIla nA! te tara sarvAMnAca samajate! paraMtu 'he' samajela ase nAhI Ahe, mhaNUna AmacyA sArakhe zikavaNAre haveta. phAzIcyA sajece nyAyAdhIzAlA kAya baMdhana? eka nyAyAdhIza malA mhaNata hotA kI, 'sAheba, tumhI malA jJAna tara dile, paNa mI korTAta 'dehAMtadaMDAcI' (phAzIcI) zikSA dyAvI kI nAhI?' tevhA mI tyAlA sAMgitale, 'tyAce kAya karaNAra, phAzIcI zikSA nAhI deNAra tara?!' tyAvara to mhaNAlA, 'paNa phAzIcI zikSA dilI tara malA doSa lAgela. ' 75 maga mI tyAlA paddhata zikavalI kI, tumhI ase mhaNAyace kI, 'he prabhU, mAjhyA vATyAlA ase kAma kuThUna Ale? ANi tyAce manApAsUna pratikramaNa karAyace. ANi dusare, sarakArI kAyadyApramANe kAma karata rahAyace.' praznakartA : AmhI koNAlA du:kha pohacavale ANi pratikramaNa karUna ghetale, paNa tyAlA jabaradasta AghAta - Theca pohacalI asela tara tyAcyAne karmabaMdhana hoNAra nAhI kA ? dAdAzrI : tumhI tyAcyA nAvAce pratikramaNa karata rahAyace, ANi tyAlA jevaDhayA pramANAta duHkha jhAle asela tevaDhayA pramANAta pratikramaNa karAve lAgela. ApaNa tara pratikramaNa karataca rahAyace, dusarI jabAbadArI ApalI nAhI.
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________________ 76 karmAce vijJAna nehamIca, koNatyAhI kAryAcA pazcAtApa karAla, tara tyA karmAce phaLa bArA ANyAMparyaMta naSTa hoUnaca jAte. (tyA kAryAce phaLa 75 Takke naSTa hote) maga jaLAlelI dorI asate nA tyAcyAsArakhe phaLa miLate. tI jaLAlelI dorI puDhIla janmI azI haLUca kuMkara mAralI, tara uDUna jAte. koNatIhI kriyA azIca vyartha tara jAtaca nAhI. pratikramaNa kelyAne tI dorI jaLate, paNa pILacI DijhAIna tazIca rahAte. maga puDhIla janmI kAya karAve lAgate? sahaja ase kele, jhaTakalI kI uDUna gelI. japa-tapane karma bAMdhale jAte kI saMpate? praznakartA : japa-tapane karma bAMdhale jAte kI saMpate? dAdAzrI : tyAcyAta tara karma bAMdhaleca jAIla nA! pratyeka bAbatIta karmaca bAMdhale jAte. rAtrI jhopUna gelAta tarI karma bAMdhale jAte ANi japatapa kele, tyAta tara moThe karma bAMdhale jAte. paNa te puNyAce bAMdhale jAtAta. tyAmuLe puDhIla janmI bhautika sukha miLate. praznakartA : tara karma saMpavaNyAsAThI dharmAcI zakti kitI? dAdAzrI : dharma-adharma donhIhI karma saMpavUna detAta. sAMsArika bAMdhalelyA karmAMnA, jara vijJAna asela tara karmAlA tvarita naSTa karUna dete. vijJAna asela tara karmAMcA nAza hoto. dharmAne puNyakarma bAMdhale jAtAta ANi adharmAne pApakarma bAMdhalI jAtAta ANi AtmajJAnAne karma naSTa hotAta, bhasmIbhUta hoUna jAtAta. ___ praznakartA : dharma ANi adharma, donhIMnA saMpavata asela tara tyAlA dharma kase mhaNatA yeIla? dAdAzrI : dharmAne puNyAce karma bAMdhale jAte ANi adharmAne pApakarma bAMdhale jAte. AtA koNI thobADIta mArale tara kAya hoIla? koNI tumacyA thobADIta mArale tara tumhI kAya karAla? tyAlA dona vAjavAla nA! Dabala karUna dyAla. nukasAna kelyAzivAya detAta, Dabala karUna. to tumacyA pApAcA udaya jhAlA, mhaNUnaca tyAlA tumacyA thobADIta
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________________ karmAce vijJAna mAraNyAce mana jhAle. tumacyA karmAcA udaya tumhAlA dusar2yAkaDUna thobADIta mAravUna gheto, mAraNArA tara nimitta banalA. AtA jara koNI eka thobADIta mAralI, tara ApaNa manAtalyA manAta mhaNAyace kI ApalA hizoba saMpalA, mI jamA karUna gheto ANi jamA karUnahI ghyAve. pUrvI dilele, teca parata karUna gelA. jamA karUna TAkAyace, navIna udhArI karAyacI nAhI. AvaData asela tara udhArI karA. AvaDate kA? nAhI? tara maga navIna udhArI karAyacI nAhI. 77 ApalA puNyAcA udayakarma asela tara samoracI vyakti cAMgale bolate ANi pApAcA udayakarma asela tara samoracI vyakti zivyA dete. tyAta koNAcA doSa? mhaNUna ApaNa mhaNAyace kI udayakarma mAjhAca Ahe ANi samoracA tara nimittaca Ahe. ase kelyAne ApalyA doSAMcI nirjarA hoIla ANi navIna karma bAMdhale jANAra nAhI. karma-akarma dazecI sthitI praznakartA : koNatehI vAITa kAma kele tara karma tara bAMdhaleca jAte ase mI mAnato. dAdAzrI : tara cAMgalyA karmAce baMdhana nAhI kA ? praznakartA : cAMgale ANi vAITa, donhIMpAsUna karma bAMdhale jAte nA? dAdAzrI : are! AtA suddhA tumhI karma bAMdhata AhAta! AtA tumhI khUpa puNyAce karma bAMdhata AhAta ! paNa karma kadhIhI bAMdhaleca jANAra nAhI asA divasa yetaca nAhI nA? yAce kAya kAraNa asela? praznakartA : koNatI tarI pravRttI tara karataca asela nA, cAMgalI kiMvA vAITa? dAdAzrI : hoya, paNa karma bAMdhale jANAra nAhI, asA kAhI mArga nasela kA? bhagavAna mahAvIra kazAprakAre karma na bAMdhatA suTale asatIla? hA deha Ahe tara karma tara hotaca rAhaNAra ! zaucAlA jAve lAgela, sarva kAhI karAve lAgata nAhI kA ?
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________________ karmAce vijJAna praznakartA : hoya, paNa je karma bAMdhale asatIla, tyAce phaLa punhA bhogAve lAgate nA! 78 dAdAzrI : karma bAMdhale maga tara puDhacA janma jhAlyAzivAya rAhaNAraca nAhI. mhaNaje karma bAMdhale, tara puDhIla janmAta jAve lAgate! paNa hyA janmAtUna, mahAvIrAMnA puDhIla janmAta jAve lAgale navhate, tara kAhItarI mArga tara asela nA, karma kele tarIhI karma bAMdhale jANAra nAhI asA ? praznakartA : asela. dAdAzrI : tumhAlA azI icchA hote kA kI, karma bAMdhale jAU naye? karma kele tarI karma bAMdhale jAta nAhI ase vijJAna asate. ase vijJAna jANale tara mukta hoto. bAdhaka Ahe ajJAnatA, nAhI karma re... praznakartA : ApalyA karmAcyA phaLAmuLe hA janma miLato nA? dAdAzrI : hoya, saMpUrNa AyuSya karmAce phaLa bhogAyace Ahe! ANi jara rAga-dveSa kele tara tyAcyA pAsUna navIna karma bAMdhale jAtAta. jara rAgadveSa nAhI kele tara kAhIhI nAhI. karmAcI aDacaNa nAhI, karma tara he zarIra Ahe mhaNUna hoNAraca, paNa rAga-dveSa karato tyAcI aDacaNa Ahe. vItarAgIMnI kAya mhaTale Ahe kI vItarAga vhA. hyA jagAta koNatehI kAma karata AhAta, tyAta kAmAcI kiMmata nAhI, paNa tyAmAge rAga-dveSa jhAle taraca puDhIla janmAcA hizoba bAMdhalA jAto. rAgadveSa hota nasatIla tara tumhI jabAbadAra nAhIta. saMpUrNa deha, janmApAsUna te mareparyaMta anivArya Ahe. yAtUna rAga-dveSa je hotAta, tevaDhAca hizoba bAMdhalA jAto. mhaNUna vItarAga kAya mhaNatAta kI vItarAga hoUna mokSAta nighUna jA. AmhAlA koNI zivI dilI tara AmhI jANato kI to aMbAlAla
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________________ karmAce vijJAna 79 paTelalA zivyA deta Ahe, pudgalalA zivyA deta Ahe. AtmyAlA tara jANU zakata nAhI, oLakhU zakata nAhI nA, mhaNUna 'AmhI' svIkArata nAhI. 'AmhAlA' sparzataca nAhI, AmhI vItarAga rAhato. AmhAlA tyAcyAvara rAgadveSa hota nAhI. mhaNUna maga eka avatArI kiMvA dona avatArI hoUna sarva saMpUna jAIla. vItarAga evaDheca sAMgU icchitAta kI karma bAdhaka banata nAhI, tujhI ajJAnatA bAdhaka banate! ajJAnatA kazAcI? 'mI koNa Ahe' yAcI. deha Ahe to paryaMta karma tara hotaca rAhaNAra, paNa ajJAna gele mhaNaje karma bAMdhaNe baMda hoUna jAte! karmAcI nirjarA kevhA hote? praznakartA : karma bAMdhaNe kevhA thAMbate? dAdAzrI : 'mI zuddhAtmA Ahe' yAcA anubhava asAyalA havA. mhaNaje tu zuddhAtmA jhAlyAnaMtara karmabaMdhana thAMbela, maga karmAcI nirjarA hota rAhate ANi karma bAMdhaNe thAMbate! karma bAMdhale jANAra nAhI, tyAsAThI mArga koNatA? svabhAva bhAvAta yeNe te. 'jJAnI purUSa' svata:cyA svarUpAce bhAna karUna detAta, tyAnaMtara karma bAMdhale jAta nAhI. maga navIna karma cArja hota nAhIta. junI karma DiscArja hota rAhatAta ANi sarvaca karma pUrNa jhAlyAvara zevaTI mokSa hoto! hI karmAcI goSTa, tumhAlA samajalI kA! jara kartA jhAlA tara karma bAMdhale jAte. AtA kartApaNa suTUna jAIla, tyAmuLe maga navIna karma bAMdhata nAhI. mhaNaje Aja tumhI karma bAMdhata AhAta, paNa jevhA mI tumace kartApaNa soDavUna deIla, tevhA maga tumhAlA karmabaMdhana hoNAra nAhI, ANi junI karma Aheta tI bhogUna ghyAyacI. mhaNaje junA hizoba cukatA hoUna jAIla ANi navIna 'kaoNjha' nirmANa hoNAra nAhI. phakta 'iphekTa'ca rAhIla. naMtara iphekTa paNa pUrNapaNe bhogavUna gelA kI maga saMpUrNa mokSa jhAlA! - jaya saccidAnaMda
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