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Aptavani-4
Dadashri: Yes, real independence – where there is no superior and no “underhand” (subordinate).
Questioner: Is it possible to attain such an independent state in the worldly life (sansar)?
Dadashri: Why not? I have attained it. I am living proof that it is possible to attain such a state, even while living in the worldly life (sansar). You will get some 'encouragement from seeing me, that it is attainable even while living in the worldly life (sansar).
Questioner: What is the difference between darshan (vision as the Self) and Gnan?
Dadashri: Darshan is the main vehicle for moksha. Gnan is the extension (vishesha) of darshan. When Gnan and darshan come together, it gives rise to conduct (charitra). What is Gnan? It is that which has been known and understood through darshan (understanding through the vision as the Self). When that understanding “fits” within, and when one is able to make others understand; when such a state arises, it is called Gnan. The real work is done by darshan.
Questioner: Is there a relationship between Gnan and Shuddhatma?
Dadashri: Shuddhatma is really the Gnanswaroop (the Gnan; the state of the Self). Absolute Gnanswaroop is Parmatma swaroop (The absolute state of the Self).
Questioner: Who binds the karma if the Atma (the Self) does not do anything?
Dadashri: The ego that says, “I did this,” is itself the one that binds karma.
Questioner: What is the difference between the Knower (gnayak) and an inquisitive person (jignyasu)?