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Aptavani-4
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Dadashri: If you go on calling charging mind (bhaavmun), atma, then it is not a wonder that you go wandering around life after life! In the Kramic path, the charging mind (bhaav-mun) itself is referred to as the Atma, whereas in Akram, I have eliminated both the charging mind (bhaav-mun) and the discharging mind (dravya-mun).
Questioner: Is charging mind (bhaav-mun) the same as pratishthit atma (relative self, 'I am Chandubhai')?
Dadashri: Charging mind (Bhaav-mun) is not pratishthit atma. The charging mind (bhaav-mun) gives rise to a new pratishthit atma. The discharging mind (dravya-mun) is actually the pratishthit atma. The dravya-mun is the 'discharge' mind and the bhaav-mun is the 'charge' mind.
The world is constantly trying to destroy effect (dravya); attempting to change external actions. In our Akram Vignan, we have put aside, both the effect (dravya) and the cause (bhaav). No more stepwise arduous climb; just straight 'direct' attainment of the Self within an hour. Otherwise, never in a million lifetimes would you manage to attain such samkit (Selfenlightenment).
Questioner: But one can experience the result of this,
can't he?
Dadashri: If you cannot experience it, then it is no good to you. When you put sugar in your mouth, you should be able to experience its sweetness. If you kept reading, “Sugar is sweet" you still will not experience it. If you just kept reciting, "I am Atma...I am Atma", you would get nowhere. If You could experience the Atma every second, then it is of worth.
Questioner: Is it necessary for us to go on reciting it, once we have already gained the experience?
Dadashri: There is no need to recite or do anything
