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it. You (the Self) have to just 'see' what 'Chandubhai' (the nonSelf) is doing. This is the only thing that Lord Mahavir was doing. He was only 'seeing' what was going on in his pudgal (non-Self complex) and nothing else. How wise He was! Just talking about Him gives me so much joy!
Questioner: But even by being 'dramatic' in the worldly life, doesn't one still have to do things?
Dadashri: Nothing needs to be done in the 'dramatic'; it all happens on its own. Besides, there is nothing worth doing, it happens by itself. You fall asleep when it is time to sleep and you wake up when it is time to wake up. Everything just goes on happening. You cannot say, 'It is got to be done, it is worth doing' or you cannot say, 'It is not to be done or it is not worth doing' either, because 'doership' is not in Your hands. The Atma (the Self) is not the 'doer'.
Saiyam of the Final State
Questioner: But whatever karma one has to do in the worldly interactions (vyavahar), are bound to come, aren't they?
Dadashri: All that happens on its own. You (the Self) have to say to 'Chandubhai' (the non-Self), "Chandubhai, it is time for you to go to work, why are you not going?" That is all. You have to alert him to this much. It all happens. 'Discharge' means that it continues to happen. If you say something hurtful to someone, there is nothing wrong in telling 'Chandubhai' that it would be better if he would not say hurtful things to others. Despite this, if something hurtful does get said, then You should tell 'Chandubhai', "Why did you do atikraman (aggression through thoughts, speech or action)? You said things that hurt this young man, so do pratikraman for it." Then You make him do the pratikraman in the young man's name. This is all You have to understand.
