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'sees' and 'knows' the gneya and the absolute bliss (param anand) arises. Now what is there to see when You are sleeping alone in a room? What 'pictures' will You keep looking at? At that time, You will see everything within. Ultimately, You can even 'see' sleep and dreams.
Questioner: But one cannot see dreams in the siddha kshetra (location where the fully liberated Soul resides without a body), can one?
Dadashri: No, there are no dreams there. The dreams happen because of the physical body. At the moment, even this life is a dream of open eyes. The Gnanis do not sleep; for them the 'seeing' is continuous. They are able to see other places, locations and regions (pradesh).
The body has weight. There is misery because of it. The Gnanis find the body to be a great burden. In the siddha kshetra, however, there is no physical body.
Questioner: This body we have, is it a result of karma? Dadashri: Yes, it is the result of karma.
Questioner: The karma should be completely discharged, should it not?
Dadashri: Once the karma have been completely discharged, it (the body) will go away. When the chit becomes pure (shuddha), it can be said that the karma have been discharged (nirjara). (Chit is one of the inner components of the antahkaran (ego-mind-intellect-chit) with the properties of knowledge and vision gnan and darshan).
Questioner: Are there 'knowing' (gnatapanu) and 'circumstances' in the living organisms (avyavahar rashi) which have no names - embodied souls in an unnamed state?
Dadashri: Their state is a state comparable to 'being tied up in a sack.' There is endless misery there.
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Questioner: Is there awareness of existence there? Dadashri: It is because it has awareness of its existence that there is so much suffering.
Questioner: What is it like in hell?
Dadashri: In hell, there is pain (dukh) of the five senses. The suffering and the miseries of the seventh hell (the lowest and worst level of the worlds that a soul may migrate to) are such that a person can even die upon hearing about them! There is tremendous pain there. The embodied beings (life forms) of undefined classification (avyavahar rashi) do not have such miseries; they have suffocation.
The Right Intellect and Pragnya
People consider intellect (buddhi) as being knowledge (Gnan). But buddhi is an indirect light, whereas Gnan is the direct light.
Questioner: Where does intellect (buddhi) end and the liberating energy and light of the Self (pragnya) begin?
Dadashri: Pragnya begins before the buddhi comes to an end. When one meets a Gnani Purush, the Gnani makes him attain the Self, which is when pragnya begins. This pragnya is the one that takes him to liberation/moksha - final liberation. Pragnya constantly cautions and alerts You, and the buddhi keeps interfering within.
Questioner: But the intellect must have some positive function, surely?
Dadashri: The only time the buddhi is in a positive mode is when it has been made intellect that is used for both the good of the self and the Self (samyak) by the Gnani Purush. To proceed according to one's own understanding is called deluded intellect (viparit buddhi). That is also called contradictory intellect (vyabhicharini buddhi). The buddhi that the Gnani
