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will open up for You. Discharge stealing, discharge sexuality, etc.; when all these discharge intents come to an end, the energy to become a nimit for others will arise. When all these end, You become the supreme Self (parmatma). These discharge kashays are all gone from 'us' and that is why 'we' have become a nimit.
Questioner: So we have to talk about getting rid of our 'rust' first.
Dadashri: Everything can happen with being the Self (purusharth) first. Having become the purush (the Self), one can come into purusharth. That is what I have done for you. From now on, whatever purusharth You make, is all Yours!
Questioner: I remain in my Shuddhatma, but at the same time, a connection with the other person's Shuddhatma should also be there, should it not?
Dadashri: The benefit of seeing Shuddhatma in others is to increase your own purity (shuddhi), not to benefit the other person. You become pure (shuddha) by 'seeing' the shuddha in others, and this is the way Your state rises higher.
Questioner: Can a connection between one Shuddhatma and another Shuddhatma occur?
Dadashri: No connection; this is a natural attribute (swabhav). If we take this light, then this light and then this one - if we combine all the three lights, each light's individuality will remain the same. In all this, one does not benefit the other.
Questioner: So the hurtful inner intent we have for others, does that decrease by doing pratikraman?
Dadashri: Our hurtful intents will get destroyed. All this is only for our own sake. Others have nothing to do with that.
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The Effect of Karma Dissipated by Talking with Chandulal
What remains after You attain the knowledge of the Self? You are able to see the pure Self in everyone; you can also 'see' the pure Self within you. So then what else remains? The 'wedge of karma effect,' that is, the impediment of karma effect remains. You have become the supreme Self (parmatma) who 'knows everything, but then what happens? The answer is that the 'wedge' of karma is the hindrance. How can this wedge be removed? It can be removed by settling all files with equanimity.
The only solution to removing this wedge of karma effect is to deal with all the files that present themselves before You with equanimity, that is, without attachment-abhorrence (raagdwesh). The action of the karma is all being carried out by the non-Self. You know, you might even end up slapping someone, but there is no raag-dwesh there. Even before the file arrives, You have made a decision that You want to deal with that file with equanimity. The wedge of karma effect is due to your own plan and design of past life. When that effect of karma comes along, people become needlessly perplexed. Now You have come to 'know' that 'Chandubhai' is the one getting perplexed. Do You not become aware of that?
Is this wedge of karma the same for all or is it different? It is different because everyone is different. Now if this old lady tries to teach something to this young girl, how will she understand her? 'Dada' will recognize the 'wedge' in the old lady and the 'wedge' in the young girl. 'We' can also tell how these
