Book Title: Aptavani 05 Author(s): Dada Bhagwan Publisher: Mahavideh FoundationPage 42
________________ Aptavani-5 43 Spiritualism and Intellectualism Questioner: When we get answers about spirituality (adhyatmik) from Dada or some other vitarag Purush, is it considered intellectual understanding? Dadashri: When it comes to you, it becomes intellectual. When you understand it, which you have to do with the intellect (buddhi), it becomes intellectual. Otherwise, it is only Gnan prakash (the direct light of the Self). There is no trace of intellect within Me. Therefore, when 'we' talk, 'we' are talking through the direct light of Knowledge (Gnan). Here with 'us' there is nothing from the books. Questioner: Whatever is put forth in words; does that not become intellectual to some extent? Dadashri: No, there is no such rule. Direct as well as indirect light of knowledge can enter into the speech; speech has nothing to do with the difference. Questioner: Is the limitations in the medium of speech an impediment in the transmission of the direct light (prakash)? Dadashri: Speech of direct light is syadvaad speech; the one that hurts no one and is accepted by the listener, whereas intellectual speech is bound to hurt someone. Because intellect based speech contains the 'poison' of ego. Questioner: If speech is vitarag (void of attachment and abhorrence), can the vitaragata in the speech be accepted and understood by the intellect (buddhi) in the recipient? Dadashri: The intellect will understand it but it cannot do so on its own. It can only catch on after it becomes samyak (enlightened, acceptable) through the Gnani Purush. Questioner: The recipient catches on through his intellectual energies and power, does he not? Or is there limitation to it... 44 Aptavani-5 Dadashri: Yes, it is the energy and power of the intellect that catches it but it can only do so in the presence of a Gnani Purush; the intellect cannot catch on anywhere else. This is because the speech that comes out in the presence of the Gnani Purush breaks through the karmic veils and reaches the Self directly and that is why the mind, intellect, chit and ego accept it. My speech comes out having passed through the Self. Everyone else's speech comes out having passed through the mind. That is why the mind accepts that speech and here the Self accepts it. Thereafter the mind and the intellect will catch it too. Restlessness in Circumstances and Tranquillity in the Self Questioner: Why does one become restless (asvastha) in circumstances where there is the absence of the Vitarag Purush, the Gnani Purush, and tranquil (svastha) in His presence? Dadashri: One remains tranquil in His presence for sure. Restlessness is created by the intellect and as long as the intellect remains, the ego too will remain. Intellect laden with ego makes one restless. If such intellect comes to an end then there is no reason for being restless. Questioner: This is not possible in the worldly life, is it? Dadashri: No, it is not possible. Still whatever benefit you get is good. Otherwise by gradually bringing about settlement through the intellect and the ego, tranquillity will automatically prevail. There is tranquillity in remaining as the Self, and by remaining in circumstances (avastha) there will be restlessness. Circumstances are all temporary and the Self is permanent. You can remain tranquil (svastha) by remaining as the Self, otherwise restlessness (asvastha) will remain. Questioner: The Self is able to 'see' and 'know' the onePage Navigation
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