Aptavani 05

Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Mahavideh Foundation

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Questioner: How can one attain as much knowledge as you have, as a Gnani?
Dadashri: All you have to do is to sit with Him (the Gnani) and attain His grace, nothing else. Everything only happens through the grace of the Gnani. You can attain kevalgnan (absolute knowledge) through the grace of the Gnani. You will bind karmas if you try to do anything because you have not realized 'who you are'. You will realize who the doer is when you realize 'who You are'.
All Worldly Interactions Are Relative
You can attain liberation even by simply understanding 'What worldly life (vyavahar) is'. This worldly life is relative; all these relatives' are temporary adjustments and the 'real' (the Self) is the permanent adjustment.
To project 'I am' in temporary things; is the wrong belief. *I am Chandubhai, I am her husband,' etc., are all wrong beliefs. Are you absolutely convinced that you are 'Chandubhai'? Shall I give you proof of that? If someone were to insult you, would you be affected?
Dadashri: If you want liberation then you will have to get rid of the dualities of good and bad. If one wants to side with good, then in that state there is abhorrence towards bad things and attachment towards good things, whereas in the path of purity, the shuddha, there is no abhorrence or attachment towards good or bad. In reality there is no such thing as good or bad. It is just the contaminated vision (maleen drashti) that sees good and bad and this contaminated vision is the deluded view (mithyatva); it is a poisoned view. 'We get rid of that poison.
Humility and Absolute Humility
The entire path of the Vitarags is one of humility (vinaya). This talk of vinaya dharma (the religion of humility) begins from India. The gesture of putting two hands together (gesture of namaste) begins here and it starts from this gesture all the way to the action of prostrating on the floor. There are countless vinaya dharmas (religions of humility) but when param vinaya (absolute humility) arises, moksha occurs.
Questioner: Please explain param vinaya.
Dadashri: Param vinaya is where there is no debate, no interference, no laws and no rules. Param vinaya cannot be preserved where there are rules and where one has to remain bound by those rules. For 'us', 'we are the 'seers' of whatever vyavasthit does. What else can 'we' afford to do?
Questioner: Not a bit.
Dadashri: Would you be affected if someone picked your pocket?
Questioner: For a little while.
Dadashri: Then you are 'Chandubhai'. If you are "Chandubhai' only by vyavahar (for worldly interaction purpose only) then nothing will affect You.
Questioner: If that is so, then what is the difference between us (the Self-realized, mahatmas) and other people? One must get rid of, renounce, that which is wrong for sure. So if we develop that then a change will gradually come.
Even in the relative religion there is a path to moksha where there is humility (vinaya) and if that humility remains continuous, then there is moksha for them for sure.
Questioner: Dada, what is the difference between humility (vinaya) and absolute humility (param vinaya)?
Dadashri: A tremendous difference. Param vinaya will not arise in anyone at all. It only arises after attaining the