Book Title: Aptavani 05
Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Mahavideh Foundation

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________________ Aptavani-5 173 174 Aptavani-5 mohaniya karmas, so then does that karmas disappear? Dadashri: All karmas disappear if You remain as the Knower-Seer (Gnata-Drashta). All charitra moha (discharging illusory attachment) disappears; only the pure awareness (shuddha upayog) of the Self remains. The upayog 'I am Shuddhatma', should remain. This is the pure Self and that too is the pure Self. Donkeys, dogs, cats, etc., are all pure Self. Even the one who robs you is a pure Self. Human beings of the current era of the time cycle, called dushamkaal, have an understanding that is filled with illusory attachment ( moha) and attraction (murchha). That is why Krupadudev Shrimad Rajchandra has called living beings of this era "hutpunyashadi inadequate merit karmas bearers). All day long they continue to do anger-pride-deceit-greed, attachment and abhorrence. They follow the tradition of the religion passed on to them by their forefathers. It is all done without any understanding. Each person has a veil (avaran) of his own *religion-pudgal' (the non-Self complex which is mired in relative religion). Regardless of whether one is a Jain or a Vaishnav, none are able to attain moksha. For the Jain it is the Jain 'religion-pudgal and for the Vaishnav it is the Vaishnav *religion- pudgal', and that verily does not allow him to go to moksha. It is only when such a pudgal discharges completely, that one attains salvation. In the path of moksha, neither the Jain pudgal nor any other religion-pudgal will be of any use. Every such pudgal will have to be settled. Questioner: The pudgal does not have to present itself at the gates of moksha anyway! It is verily the Self that has to present itself there! Dadashri: It is possible to enter moksha after attaining the state of the Shuddhatma. When attachment-abhorrence (raag-dwesh) in everything goes away, whatever remains is called charitra moha (discharging illusory attachment). When the charitra moha discharges completely You attain moksha. Questioner: What is discharge of karmas (nirjara) like? Dadashri: If You are Shuddhatma, then everything is nothing but discharging karmas; what do you want by checking what has discharged? Everyday, do you examine your stools to see whether it is yellow or black! That too is one kind of a discharge of the body. Questioner: That is true, but when will the discharge (nirjara) end? Dadashri: What will you gain by ending it? Questioner: Then I will be able to know that moksha is at hand. Dadashri: If you try to rush in this manner, you will get caught up in another thorny bush, which will attach to you. This is not a path for rushing. This is a path of maintaining awareness (shuddha upayog). Remain in pure awareness (shuddha upayog) of the Self; with that the discharge will continue automatically. You do not have to do anything. That is why I say that I am not in any hurry to get to moksha. What hurry am I in? What other moksha do I need when I am experiencing moksha right here? And that other moksha (final liberation) will happen naturally, for sure; when it is time it will come automatically as ordained at three seconds past three! What is the need for us to rush? Questioner: Is moksha predetermined? Dadashri: No, do not take it for granted that it is predetermined. If it were, everyone would remain sleeping; it is not like that. The Five Agnas Are Shuddha Upayog All I am telling you is, 'Remain in the awareness as the

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