Book Title: Aptavani 05
Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Mahavideh Foundation

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________________ Aptavani-5 187 188 Aptavani-5 this experience the experience of the mind or is it a true experience? Dadashri: It is not light (prakash) at all. It is just the imagination. People have believed all such imaginations to be the truth (satya). When I was 17-18 years old I had conducted a little experiment by pressing one of my eyes. I saw a flash of light and saw light within. I wondered what it was that came and left. Later I realized that it was the light that had left the eye. Anything that is worldly (the non-Self) is never going to become the Self and the Self is never going to become the nonSelf. Both are distinct and different things. Questioner: What is nirguna? Dadashri: Nirguna is the state in which there is no attribute of the prakruti (the non-Self complex). And saguna means the One who is an embodiment of the manifest absolute Self (the Parmatma); such a One is called Saguna Parmatma. Questioner: What is the path to moksha? Dadashri: Do you feel that you are bound? The one who feels imprisoned will seek freedom. Questioner: Bondage is there for sure. Dadashri: What do you consider as bondage? Questioner: The current worldly life seems good at the moment. Dadashri: Does it not feel bitter to you? Questioner: If I go deeper, it will feel bitter. Dadashri: Despite so much bitterness, see what the nature of all human beings is like. A man will cut a nice mango, eat it, and go to sleep. Hey you! You were just fighting with your wife a few minutes ago and now you are eating a mango? What is the point if you fight with your wife and then she cuts a mango for you? What good is it to fight even once? Do you put up with things, or not? Then she too will put up with things when you fight with her. What can anyone do? Both are *magistrates'! Questioner: What is the path to attain the main goal of the human life? Dadashri: The only reason one acquires a human birth is to attain liberation from here; it is possible to realize God. Liberation can only be attained from the human life form. One has strived to look for this path for countless past lives but he has not found it. It is possible to attain liberation from the human life if one finds the right path. Liberation cannot be attained from any other life form. Freedom from ignorance (agnan) can be attained in the human life; liberation can be attained even while being in the body. Fulfilment of the purpose of human life is attained when one meets a Ghani Purush. And also all your work gets done. The Self Is Without Circumstance Questioner: I do not want moksha but I want to be free from circumstances. Dadashri: Wherever there is a circumstance there is always a dissipation of that circumstance. You are needlessly making things difficult; you are approaching it from the wrong angle. When the Self does not encounter any circumstance, it is moksha (final liberation). Gross circumstances (sthool saiyog), subtle circumstances (sookshma saiyog), and circumstances of speech (vani na saiyog) will continue to come together (saiyogi). However, they are all viyogi (dissipating); temporary by nature. Therefore, you only have to worry about circumstances and that they do not come

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