Book Title: Aptavani 05
Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Mahavideh Foundation

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________________ Aptavani-5 195 196 Aptavani-5 worships the individual form in whom God has manifested. God can only manifest in humans, not in any other life form. The Atma itself is Parmatma (the absolute Self), but it has to manifest. Once it manifests, once there is an experience of this, all of one's worries will go away. All of one's external problems go away. Questioner: Where does God manifest? Dadashri: God is not such that he will manifest. He remains in an un-manifest form. Dadashri: The person you see in front of you is not 'Dada Bhagwan. The one that comes in your memory is the real "Dada Bhagwan'. The one you see in front of you is *A. M. Patel' and the one sitting within A. M. Patel has manifested in the form of the absolute Self (Parmatma) and that is 'Dada Bhagwan Questioner: When is 'Dada Bhagwan present? Dadashri: He is always present. He is constantly present in all these people. Questioner: But why do they call you Dada Bhagwan? Dadashri: Whom do you see when you say aapshri (you)? Are you talking about the one you see? You only recognize him, do you not? The person you see is a Patel from the town of Bhadran and he runs a construction business. 'Dada Bhagwan is the Self (the Atma) that has manifested within. People of the world refer to this as pragat Purush (manifested Self). Questioner: Man can never become God or Parmatma (the absolute Self). And yet some people claim to be God; they make claims about being and doing divine miracles, is that right? Dadashri: There is no need to make such claims. No one can claim that he is Parmatma, and he is a fool if he does. People call me Bhagwan (God) but whom can you call Bhagwan? You can never call this body 'Bhagwan. This is A. M. Patel. The entity that you can see is not 'Dada Bhagwan'. *Dada Bhagwan' is the one who has manifested within. How can you call anyone with a body (dehdhari), Bhagwan? Questioner: Is God (Bhagwan) in the form of an individual entity, or energy (shakti)? Dadashri: Both are true but a person benefits more if he Questioner: He only manifests in someone like You, not anywhere else. That is why we have come here. Dadashri: It will not happen anywhere else; the light will manifest only in certain person. Then from this light all other lamps can be lit. But only on extremely rare occasion does the light illuminate spontaneously. For me this spontaneous light occurred at the Surat railway station. Questioner: Even your worldly interaction (vyavahar) came about from auspicious (shubha) interactions, did it not? Dadashri: In the worldly life there are good (shubha) interactions and there are bad (ashubha) interactions. People of the world cannot only maintain good interactions. They get stuck in the good and the bad. Saints remain in good interactions and the One who has gone beyond the four Vedas, such a Gnani Purush, is beyond the good-bad interactions. He is in pure (shuddha) interactions. Questioner: Who can be considered a guru? Dadashri: Anyone with mistakes cannot be a guru. And what kinds of mistakes are acceptable in a guru? Mistakes those are not harmful to others. Only the guru himself is aware of those mistakes. Such a guru will have subtler (sookshmatar) and the subtlest (sookshmatam) mistakes. Otherwise, where is

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