Book Title: Aptavani 05
Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Mahavideh Foundation

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________________ Aptavani-5 193 194 Aptavani-5 suffer. The main karmas are those of the child but the mother had instigated (anumodan) those karmas and therefore she has to suffer through seeing her child suffer. To do, to help others do, and to instigating others into doing; these are the three causes behind bondage of karmas. Questioner: What is the meaning of the swastika (the religious Hindu symbol - not the one adopted by Hitler)? Dadashri: The swastika symbol represents the four life forms. Its four wings stand for the four different life forms and its center represents moksha (liberation). Ultimately, one will have to go to moksha from all the four life forms. The four life forms are humans, celestials, the animal kingdom and hell. All the four are dependent upon one's demerit karmas (paap) and merit karmas (punya) and when one attains Gnan (knowledge of the Self) and has no merit or demerit karmas left; moksha is attained. In the state of moksha, there is neither credit nor debit (of karmas). Here credits will take you to a celestial life form evagati) or make you a president. One attains a highly affluent position because of his credits (merit karmas). And what if one has a debit? One will have to work in a factory where he will have to work hard the whole day long and even then he will not be able to make ends meet. There is moksha if credit and debit do not occur. The Significance of Temples Questioner: If there were no derasars (temples), then would someone else manifest for the people, just as You (Dadashri) have manifest for us today? Dadashri: That is fine. What you are saying is a vikalp (a projection). They just happen to be, if we did not have temples, would we not have something else to resort to? They would have found something else. But the temples are a very good solution. They are India's greatest science. It is the best form of indirect worship (paroksha bhakti), provided a person understands it. When I go to the derasar, I ask Lord Mahavir, "Why do people have so many obstacles even when they do so much of Your darshan? What does Lord Mahavir say? He says, 'It happens because when people come to do My darshan, they see me but their mind is on their business or on their shoes they leave outside the temple. They are also thinking about someone stealing their shoes.' At the Time of Death Questioner: People name their children, Rama, Shri Krishna for becoming free from the cycles of birth and death. However, at the time of death one is not able to remember anything. What should one do so that he will be able to remain in the Self and head for moksha? Dadashri: You are right when you say that a person is not able to remember anything of this sort. In the final moments of one's life, a final balance sheet of his entire life's karmas comes in memory. This balance sheet has an entry of everything he did. If one goes to the derasars for darshan, then that account will be big and so some of that will be presented on the balance sheet. Or else he will think about his daughter that he did not get married. If the children tell him, "Recite the Navkar Mantra now', he will tell them they have no sense. The fool! You are about to die, why don't you straighten up: wise up? No one would pay a dime for your intellect. What kind of a man are you? They are preparing for your departure and you are making these new accounts! Therefore, in the final moments, a balance of one's entire life will come forth. Nothing else is going to work so you should do 'this' (clear off all your worldly accounts with equanimity) first. Who Is Dada Bhagwan? Questioner: Who is 'Dada Bhagwan?

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