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Aptavani-5
Thinking is the dharma of the mind. If thoughts come and leave without affecting you, do not touch You at all; it can be called a state of manolaya (the end of the mind). The mind will not create a battle, it will appear like a beautiful garden. It will appear like a fountain that throws sprays of water on a hot summer's day.
The state of nirvikalp is an exalted state. One becomes nirvikalp when his belief, 'I am the doer' (the kartapad), breaks. When one's awareness and belief of, 'I am the body' (the dehadhyas), goes away, one arrives at the state of nirvikalp.
any thoughts), many people too become this way. Once they stop their thoughts then they do not have to worry about the thoughts. Thus gradually, day-by-day, they become vichaar shunya, which means they become like a stone. On the outside they appear beautiful, they appear peaceful, but there is no Gnan within
Questioner: Many people think that nirvikalp means nirvichaar.
Dadashri: Except for the Gnani, no one can have the state of nirvikalp. Many can be nirvichaari. From the state of having no thoughts they will have to work towards a state of having thoughts again. Everything comes to a stand still when the mind ceases to think. That is why Krupadudev Shrimad Rajchandra has said, 'Kar vichaar toh paam' (Think so that you can attain). Therefore thoughts will be needed right until the end, till you attain the knowledge of the Self, and once you attain that state there is no need for thoughts. Then thoughts become gneya (that which is to be known), and You are the Gnata (the Knower).
Questioner: When Lord Mahavir gave His last deshna (speech that liberates one), did that mean He had thoughts at the time?
Questioner: Please say something about the samadhi state and the sushupta state.
Dadashri: Lord Mahavir too had thoughts until the end but His thoughts were such that they came and went with each samaya (smallest unit of time). That state can be called nirvichaar. When you go to a wedding, people come to greet you and then they move on to the next guest, don't they? Therefore one karma unfolds, its thought arises and leaves, then another will arise, that thought will arise and leave. In this manner karmas arise to give result and then dissipate. The Lord would never get stuck in any thought. The tubers of His mind are all gone and therefore His thoughts do not bother or harass Him. Thoughts do not harass Me either.
Dadashri: Today in our country, what people believe the state of samadhi to be is really the state of sushupta. In this, they are able to go deep in the layers of the mind, some go deep in the layers of the intellect. At that time they forget the external world. That is called the 'worldly Samadhi; sushupta state'
What is true samadhi? A true samadhi is one where uninterrupted awareness of the Self is. The true samadhi is when there is the awareness of even a tiny dust particle on your body, whereas the samadhi that people work towards is a 'cultured' artificial state. That is not true samadhi: it is called *cultured' samadhi. I constantly experience real Samadhi.
True samadhi is one where despite circumstances of mental suffering (aadhi), physical suffering (vyadhi), and suffering caused by external circumstances (upadhi), there is no effect, no vibration. My Samadhi will not leave even if someone were to come here and take me to jail. The same state of samadhi will prevail whether I am free or in jail.
Questioner: During meditation I see a light (prakash); is
