Aptavani 05

Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Mahavideh Foundation

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mothers, be a husband or a wife! Are these not benefits of the ego? The whole world is enjoying the benefits of the ego. I am enjoying the benefit of the Self, as the Self. This arises through the Self, and that other arises through the ego.
Questioner: Liberation can be attained when illusion (bhranti) goes away, right?
Dadashri: Yes, You 'know' everything 'as it is' when the illusion (bhranti) goes away. When the illusion goes, the ignorance (agnan) about the Self goes; when the ignorance about the Self goes, the illusory attachment (maya) goes; and when maya goes, the ego (ahamkar) goes; when the ego comes down to zero, the solution comes.
Making Yourself Egoless Is Not Possible Where there is no kind of business at all, that is the Self. Questioner: Who makes all the efforts?
Dadashri: The ego does.
Questioner: Who becomes excited?
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Dadashri: The external part of the ego becomes excited; it is really a discharging component and egoism—'I did it' does the charging.
Questioner: When will the absolute egoless state be
created?
Dadashri: What purpose do you have in creating that
Questioner: I have come to know that there is no benefit in the ego.
Dadashri: So will you get a superior result from being
state?
egoless?
Questioner: Then the inner bliss of one's Self will manifest.
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Dadashri: It is like this; it is not necessary to do the activity of becoming egoless. All you need to do is know the answer to the question 'Who am I?' Your real Self has no egoism in it. You are not 'Chandubhai' and yet you believe, 'I am Chandubhai', and that is called egoism.
The Support of Ignorance
When irritation arises within, one tries to stop it; however, irritation is an effect and the effort to stop it is a cause. Some people get irritated but they do not try to stop it and on the contrary they say, 'Yes, it was worth getting angry.' That too is a cause. Do you understand that?
Questioner: What is the cause behind irritation?
Dadashri: Ignorance (agnan). One continues doing raag-dwesh (attachment-abhorrence) due to ignorance. He will keep saying 'this is good and this is bad'. It is actually a karmic effect. In that which is discharging as an effect, one gives it a support by accepting it, saying, 'I am cold, it happened to me, I do not like the taste of it.' That is the support. If the soup is too salty, it is a problem for the tongue. Why do you have to say anything? This is how support is given to it and how new causes are created. One does raag-dwesh his whole life; raag towards what he likes and dwesh towards that which he does not.
Questioner: Who does the raag-dwesh? Is it ignorance?
Dadashri: Egoism. Egoism exists due to ignorance and egoism continues to do all this. When the support of ignorance falls, then egoism will fall.
Root Cause of the Worldly Life
Do you understand this about causes, or not? When you meet a friend and you feel happy to see him, it is attachment (raag). What if someone you do not like comes along?