Aptavani 05

Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Mahavideh Foundation

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knowledge of the Self and with that, one will not feel separation from anyone. The vision becomes that of oneness, without division (abheda) the intellect becomes that of oneness. As long as there is vinaya (humility) there is always the feeling of 'my Lord and I are separate'. However, that vinaya will take one to param (absolute) vinaya (humility). This vinaya is one of the "stations' on the path to moksha.
The Gnani Purush does not make a note of your lack of humility (avinaya). You should understand where to show humility and where not to. We recognize that you will make mistakes but 'we' cannot make a note of any lack of humility on your part; how can 'we' do so in this dushamkaal (the current era where there is lack of unity of mind-body-speech)? One had to make a note of non-humility in the fourth Ara (section of the time cycle. Today, 'we have to let go. On the contrary, 'we' have to bless the one who is arrogant and insolent!
Dada. Then how do we live?
Dadashri: That was moha (illusory attachment). Moha makes one suffer. Now You do not suffer anymore and the worldly life goes on. You now have to settle with equanimity without becoming 'interested'.
Questioner: Is that good?
Dadashri: That is called a "Gnani'. To do anything without interest is called a Gnani.
Questioner: If we do anything without interest, does that not affect the body?
Dadashri: Whatever interest there was, it subjected the body to a beating of moha. The body was affected by that. The body improves when you do something without interest. It blossoms like a rose. The other way your face looked as if you drank some castor oil!
Naturalness
Illusory Impression What is mithya abhaas (illusory impression)? I had attended a function along with many other important ministers and I was given a seat with them on the stage. Before, when I did not have Gnan, I used to wish that I could sit on such seats. In those days, I used to put a great value on such things and today, if they made me sit in such environment of pomp and circumstance, I would find it very bothersome. That is called mithyabhaas.
Questioner: But you do not feel that bothersome or unpleasant, do you?
Dadashri: No, it does not feel bothersome in that way; I do not have any interest in it. Therefore, I feel free. Now I have no interest in anything.
Questioner: Our interest is also gradually decreasing,
Questioner: If the body becomes sahaj (natural and spontaneous), is that dehadhyas (false belief of 'I am this body')?
Dadashri: What do you understand by sahaj? Have you understood the term sahaj in the language of the Sahaj (the Gnani), or in your own language (interpretation)? If someone picks your pocket and You are not affected by it, realize that your dehadhyas ("I am this body') is gone. If someone harasses you, and you react to it, it means that you still have dehadhyas. To question, "Why did he do that to me?' is dehadhyas.
In the Gnani's language, when the body complex (deha) becomes natural and spontaneous (sahaj), it means the dehadhyas is gone.
Questioner: When can we say that the body has become