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experience of suffering (ashata-vedaniya) and at the same time nirakudata should also remain. You should remain the Knower of both. It is a mistake to become one (ekakar) with the shatavedaniya (the experience of pleasure). Unfolding of Suffering Versus Awareness of
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Dadashri: If you do start to become a viradhak (insolent), I will stop the discussion because I will know that the discussion is going on the wrong path.
Questioner: But what if I end up doing your viradhana?
Dadashri: You do not have the parmanus (subatomic particles of matter, the substrate of karmas effect) to do my viradhana. Such doubts would never occur to 'us'. There can never be viradhana of the one you do aradhana (worshipful respect) of, all daylong, can there? Dada's aradhana is tantamount to doing aradhana of the pure Self (Shuddhatma), which is verily aradhana of the absolute Self (Parmatma) and that is the cause for moksha.
The Sign of Self Bliss Dadashri: Does such pleasure arise from the Self or the pudgal (the non-Self)?
Questioner: From the Self.
Dadashri: How can you tell whether it is from the Self or the pudgal?
Questioner: There is an experience that is beyond the senses (atindriya), is there not?
Dadashri: Not everyone is aware of that. The sign of bliss from the Self is the presence of nirakudata (a state free of any disturbance). Recognize that your upayog (focused awakened awareness of the Self) is somewhere else upon the slightest akudata-vyakudata (disturbances in the non-Self); You have lost Your path-Vision (You have become 'Chandubhai'). If you come home agitated from the heat, you feel good when you sit under a fan. That is not called shuddha upayog (pure applied awareness of the Self). You have to remain as the Knower of that too. When you are enduring some kind of suffering. You should remain as the Knower of the
Questioner: Is there not sweetness in pleasurable experience (shata-vedaniya)?
Dadashri: There is sweetness in it but You should *know that. During that moment Gnan should be present that
this is shata vedaniya (experience of pleasure and this is nirakudata (absence of disturbance)'. When ashata-vedaniya arises You should remain the Knower of that too. On the outside there is experience of suffering of pain (ashata-vedaniya) and from within there is nirakudata.
To become happy or to become unhappy means you become the bhokta (the one experiencing). Karmas are bound in both; in becoming the 'doer' (karta) and becoming the bhokta (the one experiencing) but no karmas are bound in being the Knower (Gnata). You simply have to be the Knower of right now "Chandubhai' is having the experience of pain or pleasure'. What is the point in 'becoming happy or unhappy?
There is no problem whether death comes today or after twenty-five years.
Questioner: I do not have a fear of dying but I do have a fear of suffering pain during death.
Dadashri: What suffering? Questioner: Physical suffering (vyadhi). Dadashri: What is there to fear in that? Is it not
