Aptavani 05

Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Mahavideh Foundation

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is not going to remain with You. It will go when it is time for vyavasthit to take it away. Therefore, just say, "Take it away whenever you want to.' Do not have any fear. No one can take away anything from You and no one even has the time to waste doing so. Even if You say, 'Here, take it away', no one will. With this. You will remain fearless (nirbhay). Just say, 'Let whatever is going to happen, happen.'
Questioner: External 'files' do not trouble me as much but I become one with (tanmayakar) the inner pain-pleasure experience (shata-ashata vedaniya).
Dadashri: You have to set aside the pain-pleasure experience (shata-ashata vedaniya). In pleasure experiencing situations (shata-vedaniya), laziness can set in; then unawareness (ajagruti) will prevail. You should not worry too much about pain-pleasure experience situations. In pain experiencing situation (ashata-vedaniya), for example if your hand is experiencing a burning sensation, then you should say, 'dear hand, if it is in vyavasthit then you have to burn, otherwise remain healthy.' So even if you were feeling the burning sensation, it will stop; because if You talk about letting it burn; what is likely to happen? You should never pamper it; this is just the pudgal (the non-Self complex), which is under the control of vyavasthit. Whatever pain experiencing situation (ashata vedaniya) comes; let it come. Courage will be needed, will it not? Is it not better to suffer with a smile than to suffer in misery? That is why it has been said, "the Gnani suffers (experiences) with stoicism, nonreactive patience, and the agnani suffers with crying.'
If you lose half your leg, You should tell the self, you still have a leg and a half.' Then if you lose the other half, say, 'instead of two, at least you have one leg.' This way if you lose all the body parts, you at least have the Self, do you not? Eventually all the parts are going to break down, are they not? Even if someone were to throw gasoline over it and set it alight, even then I am here as the Self. Sooner or later the body is
going to be burnt, is it not? You only have to study this a little. How is an ascetic able to walk bare foot? How are the farmers able to walk bare foot? You too would get used to it after you get burnt once or twice. How can you call suffering that which can be cured by taking just one pill? Suffering of pain is that which cannot be reduced, even after you take hundreds of pills.
Now nothing is yours. You have surrendered your all to the Gnani Purush. You have surrendered your mind-bodyspeech and all illusion, bhaavkarma (charge karma), dravyakarma (subtle discharge karma), nokarma (gross discharge karma); all have been surrendered, nothing is left with You. The Suffering of the Gnani Purush and the Lord
Questioner: A Gnani suffers with dhairya (stoicism, non-reactive patience) and an agnani suffers with crying, but a Gnani still suffers, does he not?
Dadashri: Suffering will not go away, but the Gnani suffers that pain with dhairya (stoicism, non-reactive patience). Dhairya is according to each individual's capacity. However, Lord Mahavir was absolutely a Knower. He would know of even a bite from a bed bug but He would not suffer it. The degree of suffering is in proportion with the portion of ignorance.
You have become the pure Self (Shuddhatma) through conviction (shraddha, pratiti). When You become the Self through Gnan (experience), then all that will remain, will simply be the 'knowing'. Until then there is suffering (vedan). And during the suffering. I tell you to remain detached. remain in the 'home department', as the Self. Do not leave Your home department, no matter how much the external circumstances call for You to do so. Let them call You twelve hundred times. Why should you leave Your office'?
Even the Tirthankars have pain-pleasure experiences (shata-ashata vedaniya) but they remain as Knower through