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________________ 'dAdA bhagavAna kathita ahiMsA saMpUrNa ahiMsA, vahA~ prakaTe kevalajJAna 'jagat binA hiMsA kA hai hI nhiiN| jaba Apa khuda hI ahiMsAvAle ho jAoge, to jagat ahiMsAvAlA hogA aura ahiMsA ke sAmrAjya ke binA kabhI bhI kevalajJAna nahIM hotA hai, jo jAgRti hai vaha pUrI AegI nhiiN| hiMsA nAma mAtra ko bhI nahIM honI caahie|jiiv mAtra meM paramAtmA hI haiN| kisakI hiMsA karoge? kise dukha doge? -dAdAzrI krodha mAna kaSAya mAyA lobha
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________________ dAdA bhagavAna kathita prakAzaka : ajIta sI. paTela mahAvideha phAunDezana 'dAdA darzana', 5, mamatApArka sosAiTI, navagujarAta kaoNleja ke pIche, usmAnapurA, ahamadAbAda - 380014, gujarAta phona - (079) 27540408, 27543979 All Rights reserved - Shri Deepakbhai Desai Trimandir, Simandhar City, Ahmedabad-Kalol Highway, Post - Adalaj, Dist.-Gandhinagar-382421, Gujarat, India. ahiMsA prathama saMskaraNa :3000 pratiyA~, jUna 2010 bhAva mUlya : 'parama vinaya' aura 'maiM kucha bhI jAnatA nahIM', yaha bhAva! dravya mUlya : 20 rupaye lesara kampoz2a : dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezana, ahamadAbAda mUla gujarAtI saMkalana : DaoN. nIrUbahana amIna anuvAda : mahAtmAgaNa mudraka : mahAvideha phAunDezana (prinTiMga DivIz2ana), pArzvanAtha caimbarsa, naI riz2arva baiMka ke pAsa, usmAnapurA, ahamadAbAda-380014. phona : (079) 27542964, 30004823
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________________ trimaMtra 1. jJAnI purUSa kI pahacAna 2. sarva duHkhoM se mukti 3. karma kA vijJAna 4. Atmabodha dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezana ke dvArA prakAzita pustakeM) hindI 5. maiM kauna hU~ ? 6. vartamAna tIrthakara zrI sImaMdhara svAmI 7. bhUgate usI kI bhUla 8. eDajasTa evarIvheyara 9. TakarAva TAlie 10. huA so nyAya 11. ciMtA 12. krodha 13. pratikramaNa 14. dAdA bhagavAna kauna ? 15. paisoM kA vyavahAra 16. aMta:karaNa kA svarUpa 17. jagata kartA kauna ? * * 18. trimaMtra 19. bhAvanA se sudhare janmoMjanma 20. pati-patnI kA dIvya vyavahAra 21. mAtA-pitA aura baccoM kA vyavahAra 22. samajha se prApta brahmacarya 23. dAna 24. mAnava dharma 25. sevA - paropakAra 26. mRtyu samaye, pahelA aura pazcAta 27. nijadoSa darzana se... nirdoSa 28. prema 29. kleSa rahita jIvana 30. ahiMsA 31. AptavANI - 1 dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezana ke dvArA gujarAtI bhASA meM bhI 55 pustakeM prakAzita huI hai| vebasAiTa www.dadabhagwan.org para se bhI Apa ye sabhI pustakeM prApta kara sakate haiN| dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezana ke dvArA hara mahIne hindI, gujarAtI tathA aMgrejI bhASA meM "dAdAvANI" maigejIna prakAzita hotA hai| 3
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________________ dAdA bhagavAna kauna ? jUna 1958 kI eka saMdhyA kA karIba cha: baje kA samaya, bhIr3a se bharA sUrata zahara kA relve sTezana, pleTaphArma naM. 3 kI beMca para baiThe zrI aMbAlAla mUlajIbhAI paTela rUpI dehamaMdira meM kudaratI rUpa se, akrama rUpa meM, kaI janmoM se vyakta hone ke lie Atura 'dAdA bhagavAna' parNa rUpa se prakaTa he| aura kadarata ne sarjita kiyA adhyAtma kA adbhuta aashcry| eka ghaMTe meM unheM vizvadarzana huaa| 'maiM kauna? bhagavAna kauna? jagat kauna calAtA hai? karma kyA? mukti kyA?' ityAdi jagat ke sAre AdhyAtmika praznoM ke saMpUrNa rahasya prakaTa hue| isa taraha kudarata ne vizva ke sammukha eka advitIya pUrNa darzana prastuta kiyA aura usake mAdhyama bane zrI aMbAlAla mUlajIbhAI paTela, gujarAta ke carotara kSetra ke bhAdaraNa gA~va ke pATIdAra, kAnTrekTa kA vyavasAya karanevAle, phira bhI pUrNatayA vItarAga puruSa! unheM prApti huI, usI prakAra kevala do hI ghaMToM meM anya mumukSu janoM ko bhI ve AtmajJAna kI prApti karavAte the, unake adbhuta siddha hue jJAnaprayoga se| use akrama mArga khaa| akrama, arthAt binA krama ke, aura krama arthAt sIr3hI dara sIr3hI, kramAnusAra Upara cddh'naa| akrama arthAt liphTa mArga, zaoNrTa kaTa! ve svayaM pratyeka ko 'dAdA bhagavAna kauna?' kA rahasya batAte hue kahate the ki "yaha jo Apako dikhate hai ve dAdA bhagavAna nahIM hai, ve to 'e.ema.paTela' hai| hama jJAnI puruSa haiM aura bhItara prakaTa hue haiM, ve 'dAdA bhagavAna' haiN| dAdA bhagavAna to caudaha loka ke nAtha haiN| ve Apa meM bhI haiM, sabhI meM haiN| ApameM avyakta rUpa meM rahe hue haiM aura 'yahA~' hamAre bhItara saMpUrNa rUpa se vyakta hue haiN| dAdA bhagavAna ko maiM bhI namaskAra karatA huuN|" 'vyApAra meM dharma honA cAhie. dharma meM vyApAra nahIM', isa siddhAMta se unhoMne pUrA jIvana bitaayaa| jIvana meM kabhI bhI unhoMne kisIke pAsa se paisA nahIM liyA balki apanI kamAI se bhaktoM ko yAtrA karavAte the| AtmajJAna prApti kI pratyakSa liMka 'maiM to kucha logoM ko apane hAthoM siddhi pradAna karanevAlA huuN| pIche anugAmI cAhie ki nahIM cAhie? pIche logoM ko mArga to cAhie na?" __ - dAdAzrI parama pUjya dAdAzrI gA~va-gA~va, deza-videza paribhramaNa karake mumukSu janoM ko satsaMga aura AtmajJAna kI prApti karavAte the| ApazrI ne apane jIvanakAla meM hI pUjya DaoN. nIrUbahana amIna (nIrUmA~) ko AtmajJAna prApta karavAne kI jJAnasiddhi pradAna kI thiiN| dAdAzrI ke dehavilaya pazcAt nIrUmA~ vaise hI mumukSujanoM ko satsaMga aura AtmajJAna kI prApti, nimitta bhAva se karavA rahI thii| pUjya dIpakabhAI desAI ko dAdAzrI ne satsaMga karane kI siddhi pradAna kI thii| nIrUmA~ kI upasthiti meM hI unake AzIrvAda se pUjya dIpakabhAI deza-videzo meM kaI jagahoM para jAkara mumukSuoM ko AtmajJAna karavA rahe the, jo nIrUmA~ ke dehavilaya pazcAt Aja bhI jArI hai| isa AtmajJAnaprApti ke bAda hajAroM mumukSu saMsAra meM rahate hue, jimmedAriyA~ nibhAte hue bhI mukta rahakara AtmaramaNatA kA anubhava karate haiN| graMtha meM mudrita vANI mokSArthI ko mArgadarzana meM atyaMta upayogI siddha hogI, lekina mokSaprApti hetu AtmajJAna prApta karanA z2arUrI hai| akrama mArga ke dvArA AtmajJAna kI prApti kA mArga Aja bhI khulA hai| jaise prajvalita dIpaka hI dUsarA dIpaka prajvalita kara sakatA hai, usI prakAra pratyakSa AtmajJAnI se AtmajJAna prApta kara ke hI svayaM kA AtmA jAgRta ho sakatA hai|
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________________ nivedana parama pUjya 'dAdA bhagavAna' ke praznottarI satsaMga meM pUche gaye prazna ke uttara meM unake zrImukha se adhyAtma tathA vyavahAra jJAna saMbaMdhI jo vANI nikalI, usako rikaoNrDa karake, saMkalana tathA saMpAdana karake pustakoM ke rUpa meM prakAzita kiyA jAtA haiN| usI sAkSAta sarasvatI kA adbhuta saMkalana isa pustaka meM huA hai, jo hama sabake lie varadAnarUpa sAbita hogii| prastuta anuvAda kI vAkya racanA hindI vyAkaraNa ke mApadaNDa para zAyada pUrI na utare, parantu pUjya dAdAzrI kI gajarAtI vANI kA zabdazaH hindI anuvAda karane kA prayatna kiyA gayA hai, tAki vAcaka ko aisA anubhava ho ki dAdAjI kI hI vANI sunI jA rahI hai| phira bhI dAdAzrI ke AtmajJAna kA sahI Azaya, jyoM kA tyoM to, Apako gujarAtI bhASA meM hI avagata hogaa| jinheM jJAna kI gaharAI meM jAnA ho, jJAna kA sahI marma samajhanA ho, ve isa hetu gujarAtI bhASA sIkheM, aisA hamArA anurodha hai| anuvAda saMbaMdhI kamiyoM ke lie Apase kSamAprArthI haiN| pAThakoM se... * isa pustaka meM mudrita pAThyasAmagrI mUlata: gujarAtI 'ahiMsA' kA hindI rupAMtara hai| isa pustaka meM 'AtmA' zabda kA prayoga saMskRta aura gujarAtI bhASA kI taraha pulliMga meM kiyA gayA hai| jahA~-jahA~ para 'caMdUlAla' nAma kA prayoga kiyA gayA hai, vahA~-vahA~ pAThaka svayaM kA nAma samajhakara paThana kreN| pustaka meM agara koI bAta Apa samajha na pAe~ to pratyakSa satsaMga meM padhArakara samAdhAna prApta kreN| dAdAzrI ke zrImukha se nikale kucha gujarAtI zabda jyoM ke tyoM 'iTAliksa' meM rakhe gaye haiM, kyoMki una zabdoM ke lie hindI meM aisA koI zabda nahIM hai, jo usakA pUrNa artha de ske| hAlA~ki una zabdoM ke samAnArthI zabda ) meM artha ke rUpa meM diye gaye haiN| aise sabhI zabda aura zabdArtha pustaka ke aMta meM bhI die gae haiN| saMpAdakIya hiMsA ke sAgara meM hiMsA hI hotI hai. para hiMsA ke sAgara meM ahiMsA prApta karanI ho to parama pUjya dAdAzrI ke mukha se nikalI ahiMsA kI vANI par3hakara, manana karake phaoNlo ho taba hI ho sake aisA hai| bAkI, sthUla ahiMsA bahuta gahare taka pAlanevAle par3e haiM para sUkSma, sUkSmatara aura sUkSmatama ahiMsA samajhanI hI muzkila hai| to usakI prApti kI bAta hI kahA~ rahI? sthUla jIvoM kI hiMsA vaise hI sUkSmAtisUkSma jIvoM kI hiMsA, jaise ki vAyukAya-teukAya Adi se lekara TheTha bhAvahiMsA. bhAvamaraNa taka kI saccI samajha yadi na barate to vaha pariNamita nahIM hotA aura mAtra zabda meM yA kriyA meM hI ahiMsA ruka jAtI hai| hiMsA ke yathArtha svarUpa kA darzana to jo hiMsA ko saMpUrNa pAra karake saMpUrNa ahiMsaka pada meM baiThe haiM, ve hI kara aura karavA sakate haiN| 'khuda' 'AtmasvarUpa' meM sthita hoM, taba vaha eka hI aisA sthAna hai jahA~ saMpUrNa ahiMsA baratatI hai! aura vahA~ to tIrthaMkaroM aura jJAniyoM kI hI vartanA!!! hiMsA ke sAgara meM saMpUrNa ahiMsaka rUpa se baratate haiM aise jJAnI puruSa ke mAdhyama se prakAzamAna hue hiMsA saMbaMdhI, sthUlahiMsA-ahiMsA se lekara sUkSmatama hiMsAahiMsA taka kA sacoTa darzana yahA~ saMkalita karake isa aMtaraAzaya se prakAzita kiyA gayA hai ki jisase ghora hiMsA meM jakar3e hue isa kAla ke manuSyoM kI dRSTi kucha badale aura isa bhava-parabhava kA zreya unake mAdhyama se sdhe|| bAkI dravyahiMsA se to kauna baca sakatA hai? khada tIrthaMkaroM ne bhI nirvANa se pahale aMtima zvAsa lekara chor3A thA, taba kitane hI vAyukAya jIva mara gae the! vaisI hiMsA kA doSa unheM yadi taba lagatA to unheM usa pApa ke lie phira vApisa kisI ke yahA~ janma lenA hI pdd'taa| to mokSa saMbhava hai? taba unake pAsa aisI vaha kauna-sI prApti hogI ki jisake AdhAra para ve sarva pApoM se, puNyoM se aura kriyA mAtra se mukta rahe aura mokSa meM gae? ve tamAma rahasya prakaTa jJAnI ki jinake hRdaya meM tIrthaMkaroM kA hRdaya kA jJAna jaisA hai vaisA prakAzita huA ho, ve hI kara sakate haiM, aura vaha yahA~ para jaisA hai vaisA, prakAzita ho rahA hai| isa kAla ke jJAnI parama pUjya dAdAzrI ke zrImukha se nikalI vANI ahiMsA ke graMtha dvArA saMkalita huI hai, jo mokSamArga ke cAhakoM ko ahiMsA ke lie ati-ati sarala gAiDa ke rUpa meM upayogI hogii| - DaoN. nIrubahana amIna ke jaya saccidAnaMda
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________________ anukramaNikA ahiMsA prayANa, 'ahiMsA paramodharma' kI ora 1 kRSNa kA govadharna - gAyoM... Tale hiMsA, ahiMsA se... 2 kyA pUjA ke puSpa meM pApa? samajha, ahiMsA kI 2 puSpa paMkhur3I jahA~ dukha pAe... khaTamala, eka samasyA(?) 3 ekendriya jIvoM kI sRSTi khaTamalamAra, Apa khaTamala mekara ho?4 siddhi, ahiMsA kI bhagavAna ke bAga ko nahIM lUTate 5 pahale bar3e jIva bacAo tapa - prApta tapa... 5 kauna-sA AhAra uttama? mAtA ne saMskAra diyA ahiMsA dharma kA 6 vijJAna, rAtribhojana kA saphAI rakho, davAI mata chir3ako 7 kaMdamUla, sUkSma jIvoM kA bhaMDAra 41 pUre karo pemenTa phaTAphaTa 7 bar3e se bar3I hiMsA, kaSAya meM 42 vaha khUna pItA hai yA chur3avAtA... 8 bAta ko samajho / nahIM vaha kAnUna se bAhara 8 'hamane' bhI niyama pAle the apane hI hisAba 9 ubalA huA pAnI, pIne meM nahIM kara sakate kahIM bhI... 9 harI sabjI meM samajhA ulTA nahIM koI pharka, kA~TeM aura macchara...11 enTIbAyoTiksa se honevAlI hiMsA 46 kisI kA jIne kA rAiTa.... 12 AhAra, DevalapamenTa ke AdhAra para 47 sahamati de usakA gunAha 14 cir3ha, mA~sAhArI para 48 par3hAI meM hiMsA? 16 khuda kATakara khAoge? alaga hisAba pApa ke... 18 mahimA, sAtvika AhAra kI niyama, khetI meM puNya-pApa kA... 19 kyA mA~sAhAra se narkagati? spezala pratikramaNa, kisAnoM ke... 20 hisAba ke anusAra gati svarUpajJAnI ko puNya-pApa chate... 22 na chue kucha ahiMsaka ko hiMsaka vyApAra 24 gunahagAra, kasAI yA khAnevAlA? 55 uttama vyApAra, jauharI kA 25 kabUtara, zuddha zAkAhArI saMgraha, vaha bhI hiMsA 26 aMDe khAe jA sakate haiM? sAmanA, para zAMti se 26 dUdha liyA jA sakatA hai? hiMsA kA virodha, bacAe.... 27 hiMsaka prANI kI hiMsA meM hiMsA? 59 jIvo jIvasya bhojanam 59 hiMsA-ahiMsA se para saMpUrNa ahiMsaka ko nahIM koI... 60 jJAnI, hiMsA ke sAgara meM saMpUrNa... jIvoM kI bali 61 saMpUrNa ahiMsA, vahA~ prakaTe.... 95 ahiMsA kI anumodanA, bhAvanA... 61 carama ahiMsA kA vijJAna 95 sabase bar3A ahiMsaka kauna? 63 zaMkA, taba taka doSa 96 abhayadAna, kauna-se jIvoM ke... 64 vedaka-nirvedaka-svasaMvedaka abhayadAna - mahAdAna 65 lAiTa ko kIcar3a raMga sakatA hai? 98 vaha hai bacAne kA ahaMkAra 66 na chue hiMsA, AtmasvarUpI ko 100 ve donoM ahaMkArI haiM sirpha ahiMsA ke pujAriyoM ke... 68 'yaha' sabake lie nahIM hai mArane-bacAne kA gupta rahasya maraNakAla meM hI maraNa 'mAranA nahIM hai' kA nizcaya karo 72 nahIM 'maratA' koI bhagavAna kI... bhArata meM bhAvahiMsA bhArI bhAva svataMtra, dravya parataMtra baco bhAvahiMsA se prathama aise hotI hai bhAva ahiMsA sabase bar3I AtmahiMsA, kaSAya nija kA bhAvamaraNa pratikSaNa ahiMsA se bar3hI buddhi bar3I hiMsA, lar3AI kI yA... 82 buddhi se mAre vaha hArDa raudradhyAna itanA karo, aura ahiMsaka bano 85 sAvadhAna ho jAo, hai viSaya... 86 mana se para ahiMsA jJAnI puruSa kI ahiMsA kA pratApa 89 ahiMsA, vahA~ hiMsA nahIM
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________________ ahiMsA ahiMsA prayANa, 'ahiMsA paramodharma' kI ora praznakartA : 'ahiMsA ke mArga para dhArmika-adhyAtmika unnati' isa viSaya para smjhaaie| dAdAzrI : ahiMsA, vahI dharma hai aura ahiMsA vahI adhyAtma kI unnati hai| para ahiMsA matalaba 'mana-vacana-kAyA se kisI bhI jIva ko kiMcitamAtra du:kha na ho' usa jAnapane meM rahanA cAhie, zraddhA meM rahanA cAhie, taba vaha ho sakatA hai| praznakartA : 'ahiMsA paramodharma' - yaha maMtra jIvana meM kisa taraha kAma AtA hai? dAdAzrI : vaha to subaha pahale bAhara nikalate samaya 'mana-vacanakAyA se kisI bhI jIva ko kiMcit mAtra duHkha na ho' aisI pA~ca bAra bhAvanA karake aura phira nikalanA caahie| phira kisI ko du:kha ho gayA ho, use yAda rakhakara usakA pazcAtApa karanA caahie| praznakartA : kisI ko bhI duHkha nahIM deM, vaisA jIvana isa kAla meM kisa taraha jIyA jA sakatA hai? dAdAzrI : vaisA Apako bhAva hI rakhanA hai aura vaisA jatana karanA caahie| jatana nahIM ho sake usakA pazcAtApa krnaa| praznakartA : apane AsapAsa saMbaMdhita jIvoM meM se kisI jIva ko du:kha na ho, vaisA jIvana saMbhava hai kyA? hamAre AsapAsa meM hara eka jIva ko hara eka saMyoga meM saMtoSa diyA jA sakatA hai? dAdAzrI : jise aisA dene kI icchA hai, vaha sabakucha kara sakatA hai| eka janma meM siddha nahIM hogA, to do-tIna janmoM meM bhI siddha hogA hI! ApakA dhyeya nizcita honA cAhie, lakSya hI honA cAhie, to siddha hue bagaira rahatA hI nhiiN| ____Tale hiMsA, ahiMsA se... praznakartA : hiMsA rokane ke lie kyA karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : niraMtara ahiMsakabhAva utpanna karane caahie| mujhe loga kahate haiM ki, 'hiMsA aura ahiMsA kaba taka pAlanI?' maiMne kahA, 'hiMsA aura ahiMsA kA bheda mahAvIra bhagavAna DAlakara hI gae haiN|' ve jAnate the ki bAda meM dUSamakAla AnevAlA hai| bhagavAna kyA nahIM jAnate the ki hiMsA kise kahanI aura hiMsA kise nahIM kahanI? bhagavAna mahAvIra kyA kahate haiM ki hiMsA ke sAmane ahiMsA rkho| sAmanevAlA manuSya hiMsA kA hathiyAra kAma meM le to hama ahiMsA kA hathiyAra kAma meM leM, to sukha aaegaa| nahIM to hiMsA se hiMsA kabhI bhI baMda honevAlI nahIM hai| ahiMsA se hiMsA baMda hogii| samajha, ahiMsA kI praznakartA : loga hiMsA kI tarapha bahuta jA rahe haiM, to ahiMsA kI tarapha mor3ane ke lie kyA karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : hameM unheM samajhAnA caahie| samajhAe~ to ahiMsA kI tarapha mur3eMge ki 'bhAI, isameM, ye jIva mAtra meM bhagavAna rahe hue haiN| isalie Apa jIvoM ko mAroge to unheM bahuta duHkha hogA, usakA Apako doSa lagegA aura usase Apako AvaraNa Ae~ge aura bhayaMkara adhogati meM jAnA pdd'egaa|' aisA samajhAe~ to DhaMga se cleNge| jIvahiMsA se to buddhi bhI bigar3a jAtI hai| aisA kisI ko samajhAte ho? praznakartA : parantu ahiMsA pAlane ke prati apanI pakkI bhAvanA ho, parantu kucha vyakti usameM bilakula nahIM mAnate hoM to kyA karanA cAhie?
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________________ ahiMsA dAdAzrI : apanI pakkI ahiMsA pAlane kI bhAvanA ho to hameM ahiMsA pAlanI caahie| phira bhI koI vyakti nahIM mAnatA ho to use dhIre se samajhAnA caahie| vaha bhI dhIre-dhIre samajhAe~, jisase vaha mAnane lge| apanA prayatna hogA to eka dina ho jaaegaa| praznakartA : hiMsA rokane ke prayatnoM meM nimitta banane ke lie Apane pahale samajhAyA thaa| jo ahiMsA ke AcAra ko nahIM mAnatA ho to use premapUrvaka samajhAkara bAta karanI caahie| para premapUrvaka samajhAne ke bAvajUda bhI na mAne to kyA karanA cAhie? hiMsA calane denI yA zakti dvArA rokane kA prayatna karanA yogya mAnA jAegA? dAdAzrI : hameM bhagavAna kI bhakti isa taraha karanI, jina bhagavAna ko Apa mAnate hoM unakI, ki 'he bhagavAna, hara eka ko hiMsA rahita bnaao|' aisI Apa bhAvanA krnaa| khaTamala, eka samasyA(?) praznakartA : ghara meM khaTamala bahuta bar3ha gae hoM to kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : eka bAra mere ghara meM khaTamala bar3ha gae the na! bahuta varSoM pahale kI bAta hai| ve saba yahA~ garadana para kATate the na, taba maiM yahA~ paira para rakha detA thaa| yahA~ gale para kA hI basa sahana nahIM hotA thA, isalie yahA~ gale para kATeM, taba paira ke pAsa rakha detA thaa| kyoMki apanI hoTala meM AyA aura koI bhUkhA jAe, vaha phijUla kahalAe na?! vaha apane yahA~ bhojana karake jAe to acchA na! para Apako itanI adhika zakti nahIM aaegii| isalie Apako vaisA nahIM khtaa| Apako to khaTamala pakar3akara aura bAhara DAla AnA hai| tAki Apako mana meM saMtoSa ho ki yaha khaTamala bAhara gyaa| ahiMsA bhI sAta kATeMge, dUra DAla Aoge taba bhI sAta kATeMge aura kucha nahIM karo taba bhI sAta kaatteNge| vaha khaTamala kyA kahatA hai? 'yadi tU kulIna hai to hameM hamArI khurAka lene de aura kulIna nahIM hai to hama aise hI khAkara jAe~ge, para Apa so jAoge taba / isalie tU pahale se hI kulInatA rakha na!' isalie maiM kulIna bana gayA thaa| pUre zarIra para kATate hoM na, to kATane duuN| khaTamala mere hAtha kI pakar3a meM bhI A jAte the| para use yahA~ paira para vApisa rakha detaa| nahIM to phira bhI nIMda meM to pUrA bhojana kara hI jAtA hai na! aura vaha khaTamala sAtha meM le jAne ke lie dUsarA bartana nahIM laayaa| apane khuda ke lAyaka hI khAkara vApisa ghara calA jAtA hai aura phira aisA bhI nahIM ki ArAma se dasa-paMdraha dina kA eka sAtha khA le! isalie use bhUkhA kisa taraha nikAlA jAe?! heya! kitane khAkara jAte haiM, ArAma se! taba rAta ko hameM AnaMda hotA thA ki itane sAre bhojana kara gae, do vyaktiyoM ko bhojana karAne kI zakti nahIM aura ye to itane sAroM ko bhojana karavAyA!! khaTamalamAra, Apa khaTamala mekara ho? praznakartA : parantu ghara meM khaTamala-macchara-kokroca parezAna kareM to hameM koI kadama uThAne cAhie? dAdAzrI : khaTamala-macchara-kokroca nahIM hoM, usake lie hameM poMchA vagairaha vaha saba karanA cAhie, saphAI rakhanI caahie| kokroca jo ho gae hoM, unheM pakar3akara hameM bAhara kisI jagaha para, bahuta dUra, gA~va se bAhara dUra jAkara DAla AnA caahie| para unheM mAranA to nahIM hI caahie| bahuta bar3A kalekTara jaisA eka vyakti thaa| unake ghara mujhe unhoMne bulAyA thaa| mujhe kahate haiM, 'khaTamala to mAra DAlane hI caahie|' maiMne kahA, 'kahA~ likhA hai aisA?' taba ve kahate haiM. 'para ve to hameM kATate haiM aura apanA khUna cUsa jAte haiN|' maiMne kahA ki, "Apako mArane kA adhikAra kitanA hai, vaha Apako niyamapUrvaka samajhAtA huuN| phira mAro yA nahIM mAro, usameM maiM Apako kucha nahIM khtaa| isa jagat meM koI bhI vyakti eka aba niyama aisA hai ki Apa lAkha khaTamala bAhara DAlakara Ao na, para Aja rAta ko sAta kATanevAle hoM to sAta kATe binA rahanevAle nahIM haiN| Apa mAra DAloge taba bhI sAta kATeMge, ghara ke bAhara DAla Aoge taba
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________________ ahiMsA khaTamala khuda banA de to phira mAranA jo Apa 'kriyeTa' kara sakate ho, usakA Apa nAza kara sakate ho| Apa 'kriyeTa' nahIM karate, usakA nAza Apa nahIM kara skte| " isalie jo jIva Apa banA sakate ho, use mArane kA adhikAra hai| Apa yadi banA nahIM sakate ho, yadi Apa 'kriyeTa' nahIM kara sakate ho to mArane kA Apako adhikAra nahIM hai| yaha kursI Apa banAte ho usa kursI ko tor3a sakate ho, kapa-pleTa banAo to tor3a sakate ho, para jo banAyA nahIM jA sakatA, unheM mArane kA Apako adhikAra nahIM hai| praznakartA: to ve kATane ke lie kyoM Ate haiM? dAdAzrI : hisAba hai ApakA isalie Ate haiM aura yaha deha koI ApakA nahIM hai, ApakI mAlikI kA nahIM hai| yaha sArA mAla Apa corI karake lAe ho, isalie usameM se ve khaTamala Apake pAsa se corI karake le jAte haiN| ve sAre hisAba cukatA ho rahe haiN| isalie aba mAranA - karanA mata / bhagavAna ke bAga ko nahIM lUTate aisA hai, yahA~ bagIcA ho aura bagIce ke bAhara ahAtA ho| aura ahAte ke bAhara toraI - laukI, vaha saba laTaka rahA ho, usake mUla mAlika kI spesa ke bAhara laTaka rahA ho, phira bhI loga kyA kahate haiM? 'are, yaha to usa saliyA kA bAga hai, mata todd'naa| nahIM to miyAMbhAI mAra mArakara tela nikAla degaa|' aura koI apane logoM kA ho to loga tor3a jAte haiN| kyoMki ve samajhate haiM ki yaha bAga to ahiMsaka bhAvavAle kA hai| ve to jAne deNge| leTa go kreNge| aura saliyA to acchI taraha mAra maaregaa| isalie saliyA bAga para se eka toraI yA laukI nahIM lI jA sakatI, to yaha bhagavAna ke bAga meM se khaTamala kisalie mArate ho? bhagavAna kA bAga Apa lUTate ho?!! Apako samajha meM AyA? isalie eka bhI jIva ko nahIM mAra skte| tapa prApta tapa... praznakartA: parantu khaTamala kATa khAe usakA kyA ? ahiMsA dAdAzrI : para usakI khurAka hI khUna hai| use koI hama khicar3I deM to khAegA? use bahuta ghI DAlakara khicar3I deM taba bhI khAegA ? nA / usakI khurAka hI 'blaDa' hai| praznakartA: para use kATane denA vaha vyAjabI nahIM hI hai na? ! 6 dAdAzrI : para upavAsa karake aMdara Aga lagatI hai vaha calA lenI ? ! taba yaha tapa karo na!! yaha tapa to pratyakSa mokSa kA kAraNa hai| khuda khar3e kie hue tapa kisalie karate ho? ! A gae haiM ve tapa karo na! ve Ae hue tapa, ve pratyakSa mokSa kA kAraNa hai aura khar3e kie hue tapa, ve saMsAra kA kAraNa hai| praznakartA : hA~, bahuta maz2edAra bAta khii| vaha bahuta khIMcatAna karake tapa karate haiM, usase to yaha jo A par3eM, ve tapa hone do| dAdAzrI : hA~, vaha to hama khIMcakara lAte haiM aura yaha to prApta hai, A par3A hai ArAma se ! hama dUsaroM ko koI bulAne nahIM jaate| jitane khaTamala Ae hoM utane bhojana kareM ArAma se, 'tumhArA hI ghara hai|' phira bhojana karavAkara bhejeN| mAtA ne saMskAra diyA ahiMsA dharma kA hamArI madara mujhase chattIsa varSa bar3I thiiN| maiMne madara se pUchA ki, 'ghara meM khaTamala hue haiM, ve Apako kATate nahIM?' taba madara kahatI haiM, "bhaI, kATate to haiN| para ve thor3e hI koI Tiphina lekara Ate haiM dUsare saba kI taraha ki 'dIjie hameM mAIbApa ?' vaha becArA koI baratana lekara AtA nahIM aura usakA khAkara vApisa calA jAtA hai!" maiMne kahA, dhanya hai mA~jI ko! aura isa beTe ko bhI dhanya hai !! kisI ko patthara mArakara AyA hoU~ na, to mA~jI mujhe kyA kahatI ? 'use khUna niklegaa| usakI mA~ nahIM hai to usa becAre kI davAI kauna karegA? aura tere lie to maiM huuN| tU mAra khAkara AnA, maiM tujhe davAI lagA duuNgii| mAra khAkara AnA, para mArakara mata aanaa|' bolo aba, aisI mA~
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________________ ahiMsA mahAvIra banAe yA nahIM banAe ? ! praznakartA: abhI to saba ulTA hai| abhI to kaheMge, dekha, jo mAra khAkara AyA hai to ! dAdAzrI : Aja nahIM pahale se hI ulTA hai| abhI isa kAla ke kAraNa koI badalAva nahIM hai| vaha to pahale se hI ulTA thA, aisA hI hai yaha jagat! isameM se jise bhagavAna mahAvIra kA ziSya honA ho vaha ho sakatA hai, nahIM to logoM ke ziSya to honA hI pdd'egaa| ve guru, ve baoNsa aura hama unake ziSya / mAra khAyA hI karo na ! isake badale to mahAvIra bhagavAna apane baoNsa kI taraha acche, ve vItarAga to haiN| lar3ate-karate nahIM ! saphAI rakho, davAI mata chir3ako kitane hI khaTamala mArate-karate nahIM, para bistara aura vaha saba bAhara dhUpa meM sukhAte haiN| para maiMne to usake lie bhI apane ghara meM manA kara diyA thA, bistara sUkhAne ko manA hI kara diyA thaa| maiMne kahA, 'dhUpa meM kisalie becAre khaTamala ko parezAna karate ho?' taba ve kahate haiM, 'taba unakA kaba aMta AegA?' maiMne kahA, 'khaTamala mArane se khaTamala kI bastI kama nahIM ho jaatii| vaha eka nAsamajhI hai ki khaTamala mArane se kama hote haiN| mArane se kama nahIM hote| kama lagate haiM z2arUra, para dUsare dina utane hI hote haiN|' isalie hameM to sApha-saphAI saba rakhanI caahie| sApha-saphAI ho to khaTamala khar3e nahIM rheN| para usake Upara davAI chir3akeM to vaha gunAha hI kahalAtA hai na! aura davAIyoM se marate nahIM hai| eka bAra mare hue dikhate haiM, para vApisa dUsarI jagaha utpanna ho jAte haiN| khaTamala kA eka niyama hotA hai| maiMne khojabIna kI thI isa para ki kisI kAla meM eka bhI dikhatA nahIM hai| kyoMki yaha kucha khAsa kAlavartI hai aura jaba usakA sIjana Ae, taba DheroM nikalate haiM, taba cAhe jaisI davAI DAlo phira bhI nikalate hI rheNge| pUre karo pemenTa phaTAphaTa praznakartA: ve khaTamala unakA hisAba ho utanA hI lete haiM na? ahiMsA dAdAzrI : hamane to pahale hI pemenTa cukA diyA thA, isalie abhI bahuta milate nahIM haiN| para abhI bhI khaTamala kabhI hamAre pAsa A jAe~, taba bhI ve hameM pahacAnate haiM ki ye yahA~ koI mAranevAle nahIM haiM, parezAna karanevAle nahIM haiN| hameM pahacAnate haiN| ve aMdhakAra meM bhI hamAre hAtha meM hI Ate haiN| para ve jAnate haiM ki hameM chor3a deNge| hameM pahacAnate haiN| dUsare saba jIvoM ko bhI pahacAnate haiM ki ye nirdayI haiM, yaha aisA hai kyoMki usake aMdara bhI AtmA hai| to kyoM na pahacAne ? ! 8 aura yaha hisAba to cukAye binA chuTakArA hI nhiiN| jisa-jisa ke khUna pIe hoMge na, phira unheM khUna pilAnA pdd'egaa| aisA hai na, vo blaDa baiMka hotA hai na? vaisA yaha khaTamala baiMka kahalAtA hai| koI do lekara AyA ho to do lekara jAtA hai| aisA yaha sArA baiMka kahalAtA hai, to baiMka meM saba jamA ho jAtA hai| vaha khUna pItA hai yA chur3avAtA hai dehabhAva ? yAnI khaTamala kATate hoM to use bhUkhA nahIM jAne denA caahie| hama itane zrImaMta vyakti aura vahA~ se vaha garIba vyakti bhUkhA jAe, vaha kaise pusAe? aura merA kahanA hai ki hameM na pusAe to use bAhara rakha Ae~ / hameM pusAnA cAhie, use bhojana karavAne kI zakti honI caahie| vaha zakti nahIM ho to bAhara rakha Ae~ ki bhAI, Apa dUsarI jagaha bhojana kara lo| aura bhojana karavAne kI zakti ho to bhojana karavA ke jAne denaa| aura vaha bhojana karake jAegA to Apako bahuta lAbha dekara jaaegaa| AtmA mukta kara degaa| deha meM z2arA bhAva rahA hogA to chUTa jAegA / aura ye khaTamala kyA kahate haiM? 'Apa sote ho kyA samajhakara ? ApakA koI kAma kara lo na!' yAnI ve to caukIdAra hai| nahIM vaha kAnUna se bAhara praznakartA : aura ye macchara bahuta trAsa dete hai, vaha ?
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________________ 10 ahiMsA dAdAzrI : aisA hai na, isa jagat meM koI bhI vastu trAsa detI hai na, vaha niyama se bAhara koI trAsa de sakeM aisA hai hI nhiiN| isalie vaha kAnUna se bAhara nahIM hai| Apa niyama ke anusAra trAsa prApta kara rahe ho| aba Apako bacanA ho to Apa maccharadAnI rkho| dUsarA rakho, sAdhana kro| para use mAranA vaha gunAha hai| praznakartA : bacAva karanA, mAranA nahIM hai| ahiMsA isalie varlDa kA doSa nikAlanA mata, ApakA hI doSa hai| Apane jitanI dakhala kI hai unake hI ye pratighoSa hai| Apane daqhala na karI ho, usakA pratighoSa Apako lagegA nhiiN| dAdAzrI : hA~, bacAva krnaa| praznakartA : para macchara ko mAreM, para 'zrIrAma' kaheM to usakI gati U~cI jAtI hai? dAdAzrI : para vaha apanI adhogati karatA hai| kyoMki use trAsa hotA hai? praznakartA : saMtoM ko macchara kATate haiM yA nahIM? dAdAzrI : bhagavAna ko kATe the na ! mahAvIra bhagavAna ko to bahuta kATe the| hisAba cukAe binA rahate nahIM na! apane hI hisAba isalie eka macchara bhI Apako chU nahIM sakatA, yadi Apa dakhala na karo to| isa bistara meM nire khaTamala haiM, aura vahA~ Apako sulAe~ aura yadi Apa dakhala bagaira ke ho to eka bhI khaTamala Apako chuegA nhiiN| kauna-sA kAnUna hogA isake pIche? yaha to khaTamala ke lie loga vicAra karanevAle haiM na, ki 'are, cuna DAlo, aisA karo, vaisA karo?' aisI dakhala karate haiM na, sabhI? aura davAI chir3akate haiM? hiTalariz2ama jaisA karate haiM? karate haiM kyA aisA? phira bhI khaTamala kahate haiM, 'hamAre vaMza kA nAza nahIM honevaalaa| hamArA vaMza bar3hatA hI jAnevAlA hai|' isalie yadi ApakI daqhala baMda ho jAegI to saba sApha ho jaaegaa| daqhala nahIM ho to kucha kATe aisA nahIM hai isa jagat meN| nahIM to yaha daqhala kisI ko chor3atI nhiiN| hamezA hI hisAba cukatA ho gayA aisA kaba kahalAegA? maccharoM ke bIca baiThA ho taba bhI macchara na chue, taba cukatA ho gayA khlaaegaa| macchara usakA svabhAva bhUla jAtA hai| khaTamala usakA svabhAva bhUla jAtA hai| yahA~ para koI mAratA huA AyA ho na, para mujhe dekhe to vaha mAranA bhUla jAtA hai| usake vicAra hI sAre badala jAte haiM, use asara hotA hai, ahiMsA kA itanA sArA iphekTa hotA hai| ___macchara ko mAlUma nahIM ki maiM caMdUbhAI ke pAsa jA rahA hU~ yA caMdUbhAI ko mAlUma nahIM ki yaha macchara mere pAsa A rahA hai| yaha 'vyavasthita' saMyogakAla saba aisA kara detA hai ki donoM ko milAkara donoM ke bhAva cukatA karake aura alaga ho jAte haiM phir| itanA adhika yaha 'vyavasthita' hai! isalie macchara ko havA meM khIMcatA khIMcatA yahA~ para lAtA hai aura DaMka mArakara vApisa havA meM khiMca jAtA hai| phira jAne kahA~ vaha mIla dUra gayA hotA hai! jo Ter3hA hotA hai use phala detA hai vaapis| yAnI eka macchara chUtA hai, vaha gappa nahIM hai| to dUsarI kauna-sI cIz2a gappa meM calegI?! aura phira yahA~ paira ke pAsa use chUnA ho taba bhI nahIM chU pAtA, yahA~ hAtha para hI chue tabhI mela khAe, isa jagaha para hI! itanA adhika goThavaNI (vyavasthA, prabandha, Ayojana, seTiMga)vAlA yaha jagat hai| yAnI yaha jagat koI gappa hai? bilakula 'regyuleTara oNpha da varlDa' hai aura varlDa ko niraMtara regyulezana meM hI rakhatA hai aura yaha saba maiM khuda dekhakara kahatA huuN| nahIM kara sakate kahIM bhI, hiTalariz2ama varlDa meM koI ApameM daqhala kara sake aisI sthiti meM hI nahIM hai|
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________________ ahiMsA nahIM koI pharka, kA~TeM aura macchara meM yaha macchara kATatA hai taba logoM ko macchara kA doSa dikhatA hai aura vo kA~TA kATatA hai taba kyA karatA hai? itanA bar3A kA~TA laga jAe to? usa kA~Te meM aura macchara meM pharka nahIM hai z2arA bhI, bhagavAna ne pharka dekhA nahIM hai| jo kATatA hai na, vaha AtmA nahIM hai| ve kA~Te hI haiM sbhii| usa kA~Te kA doSa nahIM dikhatA na! usakA kyA kAraNa hai? praznakartA : jIvita koI nimitta dikhatA nahIM na vahA~! dAdAzrI : aura usameM jIvita dikhatA hai na, isalie vaha samajhatA hai ki isIne mujhe kaattaa| 'khuda' bhrAMtivAlA, phira jagat use bhrAMtivAlA hI dikhA karatA hai| AtmA kisI ko kATatA hI nhiiN| yaha saba anAtmA hokara daMDa de rahA hai jagat ko| paramAtmA daMDa nahIM dete| AtmA bhI daMDa nahIM detA, yaha to babUla ke kA~Te hI sabako cubhate rahate haiN| pahAr3a para se itanA bar3A patthara gire sira para to Upara dekha letA hai ki kisI ne lur3hakAyA yA nahIM lur3hakAyA? phira koI na dikhe taba cupa! aura kisI ne apane Upara kaMkar3a mArA ho vahA~ haldIghATI kI lar3AI kara letA hai| kAraNa kyA hai? ki bhrAMtadRSTi hai! yaha 'akrama vijJAna' kyA kahatA hai? ki vaha kA~TA bhI nimitta hai aura vyakti bhI nimitta hai, doSa ApakA hI hai| isa phUla ko kucaleM to usakA phala nahIM AtA aura kA~Te ko kucaleM to phala AtA hai, vaise hI ina manuSyoM meM bhI hai| isalie sa~bhAlakara calo! kA~TA cubhanA yA phira bicchU kA kATanA donoM karmaphala hai| yaha phala AyA, para kisakA phala? merA khuda kaa| taba kahe, 'use kyA lenA-denA?' ve to becAre nimitta haiN| bhojana karavAnelA kauna hotA hai aura parosanevAlA kauna hotA hai? ahiMsA maiM dUMgA eka dina vaha hisAba! taba jagat ko ThaMDaka lgegii| nahIM to ThaMDaka nahIM lgtii| anubhava meM to lenA paDegA na! anabhava ke sTeja para leM taba hI kAma hogA na ! ki 'isakA kyA pariNAma AegA' aisA risarca to karanA par3egA na! kisI kA jIne kA rAiTa tor3anA cAhie? isakI maiMne jA~ca bhI karI huI hai phira / kyA akkalavAloM ne AbarU pAI! cUhA, vaha billI kA bhojana hai| khAne do na use! aura yaha chachUdara jAtA ho na, to billI use nahIM chuutii| billI yadi bhUkhI hI ho aura cUhA, jIvajaMtu, jIvoM ko khA jAtI ho taba chaDUMdara ko kyoM nahIM khAtI? para vaha chaDUMdara ko nahIM chuutii| isa para vicAra krnaa| ye koI puNya kare the isalie baiThe-baiThe khAne kA milaa| aura ina maz2adUroM ko to mehanata kareM usake bAda paise lAe~ taba khAne kA milatA hai| isalie hameM, aba kisI ko duHkha nahIM ho, jAnavara ko-choTe jIvajaMtuoM ko bhI du:kha nahIM ho usa taraha vartana rakhanA caahie| aise to loga bhagavAna kA nAma lete haiM aura jinameM bhagavAna rahate haiM, unheM mArate rahate haiN| sA~pa nikale ho to mAra DAlate haiM, khaTamala ko bhI mAra DAlate haiM, aise zUravIra(!) loga! isa taraha loga mArate haiM sahI? bar3e zUravIra kahalAte haiM na?! isalie loga mArane meM zaravIra vApisa! aura yaha sarjana kisakA, jo ki visarjana meM khuda taiyAra ho jAtA hai?! Apa sarjana kara sako to usakA visarjana kara sakate ho| koI nyAya hogA yA nahIM hogA? aisA hai na, ye to rileTiva vyU poinTa se khaTamala haiM aura riyala vyU poinTa se zuddhAtmA haiN| Apako zuddhAtmA ko mAranA hai? nahIM pasaMda ho to bAhara jAkara DAla AnA na! aba sabako mArakara manuSya sukha DhU~DhatA hai ismeN| macchara mAranA, khaTamala mAranA, jo AyA ho use mAranA aura sukha DhU~DhanA, ye donoM kisa taraha sAtha meM ho sakatA hai? praznakartA : ghara meM cIMTiyA~ bahuta nikalatI hai to kyA karanA cAhie? isalie sAvadhAnI se clnaa| yaha jagat bahuta alaga taraha kA hai| bilakula nyAyasvarUpa hai| maiMne sArI z2indagI kA hisAba nikAlA hai na, vaha hisAba nikAlate-nikAlate itanA acchA hisAba nikAlA hai, aura jagat ko
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________________ ahiMsA 14 dAdAzrI : jisa rUma meM cIMTiyA~ nikalI hoM vaha rUma baMda rkhnaa| ise upadrava kahA jAtA hai| kudarata kA niyama aisA hai ki kucha dina unakA upadrava calatA rahatA hai| phira usakA TAima pUrA ho jAe taba upadrava baMda ho jAtA hai, apane Apa hI kudaratI hI! isalie hameM rUma baMda rakhanA, yaha saba Apa patA lagAoge to patA clegaa| yaha paramAnenTa upadrava hai yA TemparerI? ahiMsA itane sAre cora hote haiM ki hama unameM se bace hI nhiiN| hama kabhI kisI kI jeba kATane kA, corI karane kA vicAra nahIM karate, isalie apanA ve kATate nhiiN| isalie Apa hiMsaka ke badale ahiMsaka rahoge, to hiMsA ke saMyoga hI Apako mileMge nahIM aisA yaha jagat hai| jagat eka bAra samajha lo to niber3A aae| sahamati de usakA gunAha praznakartA : ye barasAta meM gA~va meM makkhiyA~ adhika ho jAtI hai, macchara adhika ho jAte haiM, to myunisipAliTIvAle yA apane ghara meM saba 'phliTa' chir3akate haiM, to vaha pApa hI kahalAegA na? para aisA yadi na kareM to mahAmArI bhayaMkara phaila jAtI hai| praznakartA : adhikatara cIMTiyA~ saba rasoI meM hI AtI haiM, to rasoI kisa taraha baMda rakhanI? dAdAzrI : vaha to saba vikalpa hai| hameM yaha samajha lenA hai| upadrava ho vahA~ se khisaka jAnA, do rasoI rakho, eka sTova alaga rkho| usa dina kucha ubAlakara khA lenaa| mArane kI jokhimadArI bahuta jabaradasta hai| praznakartA : roz2a ke vyavahAra meM avarodha meM Ate haiM, unheM hI mAra DAlate haiM aura dUsare sabako to mArane jAte nhiiN| dAdAzrI : jise jIvajaMtu mArane haiM use vaise saMyoga mila Ate haiM aura jise nahIM mArane use vaise saMyoga mila Ate haiN| thor3A samaya nahIM mArane haiM' aisA prayatna karoge to saMyoga bdleNge| duniyA ke niyama yadi samajho to hala hai| nahIM to phira mArane kA rivAja chUTatA nhiiN| to phira saMsAra kA rivAja TUTegA nhiiN| bhUlacUka se mara jAe usakA pratikramaNa kara lenA ki mAfI mA~gatA huuN| praznakartA : hama bhI isa dainika jIvana meM ye sArI davAIyA~ chir3akakara saba jIvajaMtuoM ko mArate haiM, to usakA iphekTa apane para hotA hai? dAdAzrI : mArate ho usa ghar3I aMdara turanta hI paramANu badala jAte haiM aura Apake aMdara bhI mara jAte haiN| jitanA Apa bAhara mAroge utanA aMdara mregaa| jitanA bAhara jagat hai utanA aMdara jagat hai| isalie Apako jitanA mAranA ho utanA mAranA, Apake aMdara bhI marate rheNge| jitanA isa brahmAMDa meM hai utanA piMDa meM hai| dAdAzrI : aisA hai na, yaha tujha meM, aura usa saramukhatyAra ne bambagole DAle usameM pharka kyA hai? tU unameM se hI choTA saramukhatyAra banA! praznakartA : para yaha to gA~va kI bAta huI na! yaha barasAta hai, to barasAta meM saba tarapha gaMdagI to hotI hI hai n| taba macchara-makkhI sabhI ho jAte haiN| to myunisipAliTI kyA karatI hai ki saba jagaha para davAI chir3akatI hai| dAdAzrI : myunisipAliTI karatI hai, usameM hameM kyA lenA-denA? hamAre mana meM vaisA bhAva nahIM honA caahie| hamAre mana meM aisA honA cAhie ki aisA nahIM ho to acchaa| praznakartA : to myunisipAliTI ke jo kAma karanevAle loga haiM, jo ohade para hote haiM, unheM doSa lagatA hai? dAdAzrI : nhiiN| unheM bhI lagatA-karatA nahIM hai| praznakartA : to kise lagatA hai? dAdAzrI : vaha to sirpha karanevAle hI haiN| unase kauna karavAtA hai? unake oNphisara vagairaha sb|
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________________ ahiMsA 16 praznakartA : to oNphisara kisake lie karate haiM? dAdAzrI : unakA kartavya! para apane lie nhiiN| praznakartA : para hamane to kamplena kI, patra likhakara noTisa diyaa| dAdAzrI : para jise nahIM kahanA ho vaha nahIM khe| jise nahIM karanA ho vaha kahegA, 'bhAI, mujhe yaha nahIM caahie| mujhe yaha pasaMda nahIM hai|' to phira? to khuda kI jimmedArI nahIM hai| aura jise pasaMda hai usakI jimmedArI ahiMsA aura ghara meM dasa vyakti hoM aura TaMkI bigar3I hai, use kauna sApha karavAne nikalegA? jisameM ahaMkAra ho vaha nikalegA, ki 'maiM kara duuNgaa| vaha ApakA kAma nahIM hai| isalie ahaMkArI ko sArA doSa jAtA hai| praznakartA : para vaha usake karuNA ke bhAva se karatA hai| dAdAzrI : karuNA ho yA cAhe jo| aura ye pApa bhI bNdheNge| praznakartA : to kyA kareM? vaha cAhe jaisA gaMdA pAnI pI leM? dAdAzrI : isameM cale aisA hI nahIM hai| vaha ahaMkAra kie binA rahegA hI nhiiN| aura aisA kucha nahIM hai, Apako to sahI zuddha hI pAnI milatA rhegaa| koI ahaMkArI Apake lie zuddha hI kara degaa| hA~, isa duniyA meM hara eka cIja hai| koI cIz2a aisI nahIM ki jo na mile| para ApakA puNya aTakA huA hai sirph| ApakA jitanA ahaMkAra utanA aNtraay| ahaMkAra nirmUla huA ki sabhI vastue~ Apake ghara! isa jagat kI koI cIz2a Apake ghara na ho vaisA nahIM rahegA! ahaMkAra hI aMtarAya hai| hai| praznakartA : isalie hara eka ke khuda ke bhAva para rahA? dAdAzrI : hA~, khuda kA bhAva kisameM hai? utanI usakI jokhimadArI! praznakartA : yaha pAnI kI TaMkI ho, usameM cUhA mara gayA yA kabUtara mara gayA, to vaha sArI sAphasUpha karanI par3atI hai| sAphasaphAI karavAne ke bAda usameM davAI chir3akanI par3atI hai yA phira myunisipAliTIvAle ko bulavAkara davAI chir3akavAte haiM, tAki sAre hI jIvajaMtuoM kA to nAza ho na? to vaha pApa to huA na? vaha baMdhana kise par3A? karanevAle ko yA karavAnevAle ko? dAdAzrI : karanevAle aura karavAnevAle donoM ko jAtA hai| para apane bhAva meM nahIM honA caahie| apanA aisA abhiprAya nahIM honA caahie| praznakartA : gaMdagI miTAne kA bhAva hai| kyoMki gaMdagI nahIM miTe taba sabhI manuSya pAnI pIe~ge to unheM nukasAna hogaa| dAdAzrI : hA~, para vaha to doSa lageMge hI na! aisA hai na, aise doSa ginane jAe~ na, to isa jagat meM niraMtara doSa hI huA karate haiN| isalie Apako kisI kI ciMtA nahIM karanI hai| Apa apanA sNbhaalo| saba sabakI sNbhaalo| hara eka jIva mAtra apanA-apanA maraNa aura bAkI saba lekara Ae haiN| isIlie to bhagavAna ne kahA hai ki koI kisI ko mAra sakatA nahIM hai| para yaha opana mata karanA, nahIM to loga durupayoga kreNge| par3hAI meM hiMsA? praznakartA : yaha egrIkalcara kaoNleja meM par3hatI hai| sTuDanTa hai yahA~ para, to kahatA hai, 'hamAre yahA~ kITa-pataMge par3hane ke lie pakar3ane par3ate haiM aura unheM mAranA par3atA hai, to usameM pApa ba~dhatA hai kyA? pakar3eM nahIM to hameM mArksa nahIM milate parIkSA meM, to hameM kyA karanA cAhie?' dAdAzrI : to bhagavAna ko roz2a prArthanA karo eka ghaMTA ki bhagavAna yaha mere bhAgya meM aisA kahA~ se AyA, logoM ko sabhI ko kahIM aisA hotA hai?! tere hisse meM AyA hai to bhagavAna se prArthanA karanA ki 'he bhagavAna, kSamA mA~gatA huuN| aba aisA nahIM Ae aisA krnaa|' praznakartA : matalaba, isameM jo preraNA denevAle TIcara hote haiM na, ve hameM aisA prerita karate haiM ki Apa ina kITa-pataMgoM ko pakar3o aura isa taraha se elbama banAo, to unheM koI pApa nahIM?
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________________ ahiMsA ahiMsA dAdAzrI : unake hisse meM AtA hai, preraNA de use sATha pratizata aura karanevAle ko cAlIsa pratizata ! praznakartA : yaha koI bhI vastu jo ho rahI hai vaha vyavasthita ke niyama ke anusAra vaha ThIka nahIM mAnI jAtI? ve nimitta bane aura unheM karane kA aayaa| to phira unake hisse meM pApa kyoM rahe? dAdAzrI : pApa to isalie hI hotA hai ki aisA kAma apane hisse meM nahIM honA cAhie, phira bhI apane hisse meM aisA AyA? bakare kATane kA bhAgya meM Ae to acchA lagegA? praznakartA : acchA to nahIM lgegaa| para dAdA, karanA hI par3e aisA ho to? anivArya rUpa se karanA hI par3e, chuTakArA hI na ho, taba kyA? dAdAzrI : karanA par3e to.... pachatAve sahita karanA par3e, taba hI kAma kA hai| eka ghaMTe pachatAvA karanA par3egA roz2a, eka kITaka banA de, dekheM? faoNrena ke sAinTisTa banA deMge eka kITaka? praznakartA : nA, vaha to saMbhava hI nahIM na dAdA! dAdAzrI : to phira banA nahIM sakate to phira mAra kisa taraha sakate alaga hisAba pApa ke..... praznakartA : eka vyakti ne ghAsa tor3I, dUsare vyakti ne per3a kATA, tIsare vyakti ne macchara mArA, cauthe vyakti ne hAthI mArA, pA~cave vyakti ne manuSya ko maaraa| aba ina sabameM jIvahatyA to huI hI para usake pApa kA phala alaga-alaga hai na? dAdAzrI : alg-alg| aisA hai na, tinako kI koI qImata hI nhiiN| praznakartA : para usameM AtmA to hai na? dAdAzrI : vaha to hai| para vaha khuda jo bhogatA hai na, vaha bebhAnaavasthA meM bhogatA hai na! praznakartA : matalaba sAmanevAle ke bhugatAna ke anusAra pApa hai? dAdAzrI : sAmanevAle kA duHkha kitanA hai, usake anusAra hameM pApa lagatA hai| praznakartA : baMgale ke AsapAsa khuda apanA gArDana banAtA hai| dAdAzrI : usameM Apatti nahIM hai| utanA TAima apanA bekAra jAtA hai, isalie manA kiyA hai| una jIvoM ke lie manA nahIM kiyaa| praznakartA : para hama nimitta baneM kahalAte haiM n| dAdAzrI : nimitta meM Apatti nahIM hai| jagat nimittarUpa hI hai| una ekendriya jIvoM ko koI duHkha nahIM dete hm| vaha saba calatA hI rahatA hai| ekendriya jIva kI jinakI ciMtA karanI nahIM hai, unakI ulajhana DAla dii| para jAna-bUjhakara rAste calate per3a ke patte binA kAma ke tor3anA mata, anarthakArI kriyAe~ mata krnaa| aura dAtuna kI z2arUrata ho to Apa per3a se kahanA ki, 'mujhe eka Tukar3A caahie|' aise mA~ga lenaa| praznakartA : eka vyakti phuTapAtha para cala rahA ho, dUsarA vyakti haiM? una logoM ko sabako prArthanA karanI cAhie bhagavAna se, ki hamAre hisse meM yaha kahA~ se AyA, khetIbAr3I kA dhaMdhA kahA~ se AyA.... khetIbAr3I meM to nirI hiMsA hI hai para aisI nahIM, yaha to khulI hiMsA praznakartA : bahuta acchA namUnA lekara Ae~ mArakara, taba vApisa khuza hote haiM ki maiM kaisA mArakara lAyA, kitanA acchA namUnA milaa| usake adhika mArksa milate haiN| kitanA acchA maiMne pakar3A! dAdAzrI : khuza hotA hai na! vahA~ para utanA hI karma lagegA, usakA phala AegA vApisa, jitane khuza hue utanI hI kar3avAhaTa bhoganI pdd'egii|
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________________ ahiMsA ghAsa para cala rahA ho| pharka to hai hI na? dAdAzrI : ThIka hai para usameM bahuta laMbA aMtara nahIM hai| yaha to logoM ne ulTA DAla diyA hai| bar3I bAta raha gaI aura choTI bAteM ddaalii| logoM ke sAtha cir3hanA use bar3I hiMsA kahA hai| sAmanevAle ko duHkha hotA haina ! niyama, khetI meM puNya-pApa kA..... praznakartA : ye kisAna khetI karate haiM usameM pApa hai ? 19 dAdAzrI : saba ora pApa hai| kisAna khetI kare usameM bhI pApa hai| aura ye anAja ke dAnoM kA vyApAra karate haiM, ve sabhI pApa haiN| dAnoM meM jIva par3ate haiM yA nahIM par3ate? aura loga jIvajaMtuoM ke sAtha bAjarA becate haiN| are, jaMtuoM ke bhI paise lie aura ve khAe ! praznakartA: para khetI karanevAle ko eka paudhe ko bar3A karanA par3atA hai aura dUsare paudhe ko ukhAr3anA par3atA hai| taba bhI usameM pApa kA bhAra hai koI? dAdAzrI : hai hI na! praznakartA: to kisAna khetI kisa taraha kare? dAdAzrI : vaha to aisA hai na, eka kArya karo, usameM puNya aura pApa donoM samAe hue hote haiN| yaha kisAna khetI karate haiM, ve dUsare paudhe ko ukhAr3a DAlate haiM aura isa kAma ke paudhe ko rakhate haiM, yAnI use pAlateposate haiM, usameM use bahuta puNya ba~dhatA hai aura jise nikAla dete haiM, usakA use pApa ba~dhatA hai| yaha pApa paccIsa pratizata ba~dhatA hai aura puNya use pacahatara pratizata ba~dhatA hai| taba phira pacAsa pratizata kA phAyadA huA na ! praznakartA: to vaha pApa aura puNya 'plasa mAinasa' ho jAte haiM? dAdAzrI : naa| vaha 'plasa mAinasa' nahIM kiyA jaataa| bahI meM to donoM likhe jAte haiN| 'plasa mAinasa' ho jAtA ho na, taba to kisI ke 20 ahiMsA yahA~ z2arA bhI duHkha nahIM hotaa| taba to koI mokSa meM bhI nahIM jaataa| vaha to kahatA, 'yahA~ acchA hai, koI duHkha nhiiN|' loga to bahuta pakke hote haiN| para aisA kucha hotA nahIM / aura jagat pUrA to pApa meM hI hai na aura puNya meM bhI hai| pApa ke sAtha-sAtha puNya bhI hote haiN| para bhagavAna ne kyA kahA hai ki lAbhAlAbha kA vyApAra karo / spezala pratikramaNa, kisAnoM ke lie praznakartA: ApakI kitAba meM par3hA thA ki 'mana-vacana-kAyA se koI jIva ko kiMcit mAtra duHkha na ho' aisA par3hA, para eka tarapha hama kisAna rahe, phira tambAkU kI phasala ugAe~ taba hameM Upara se hara eka paudhe kI koMpala, matalaba usakI garadana tor3a hI DAlanI par3atI hai| to isase use dukha to huA na ! usakA pApa to lagatA hai na? aise lAkhoM paudhoM kI garadana kucala DAlate haiN| to isa pApa kA nivAraNa kisa taraha kareM ? dAdAzrI : vaha to aMdara mana meM aisA honA cAhie ki are yaha kAma kahA~ se hisse meM AyA? basa itanA hii| paudhe kI koMpala nikAla denI / parantu mana meM 'yaha kAma kahA~ se hisse meM AyA, aisA pazcAtApa honA caahie| 'aisA nahIM karanA cAhie' vaisA mana meM honA cAhie, basa / praznakartA: para yaha pApa to hone hI vAlA hai na? dAdAzrI : vaha to hai hii| vaha dekhanA nahIM hai, vaha Apako dekhanA nahIM hai| huA karatA hai vaha pApa dekhanA nahIM hai| aisA nahIM honA cAhie aisA Apako nizcita karanA hai, nizcaya karanA caahie| aisA kAma kahA~ milA? dUsarA acchA kAma milA hotA to hama aisA karate nhiiN| vaisA pazcAtApa nahIM hotaa| aisA nahIM jAnA ho na, taba taka pazcAtApa nahIM hotA / khuza hokara paudhe ko pheMka detA hai| hamAre kahe anusAra karanA na, ApakI sabhI jimmedArI hamArI paudhA pheMka do usakA harja nahIM hai, pazcAtApa honA
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________________ ahiMsA cAhie ki yaha kahA~ se AyA mere hisse meM? praznakartA : smjhaa| dAdAzrI : ina kisAnoM se adhika to vyApArI pApa karate haiM aura vyApAriyoM se adhika ye ghara baiThe rahate haiM, ve bahuta pApa karate haiM mue| pApa to mana se hotA hai, zarIra se pApa hotA nhiiN| Apako bAta samajhanI hai| ina dUsare logoM ko samajhane kI z2arUrata nahIM hai| Apako apane lAyaka samajha lenI hai| dUsare loga jo samajhate haiM vahI ThIka hai| praznakartA : kapAsa meM davAI chir3akanI par3atI hai taba kyA kareM? usameM hiMsA to hotI hI hai na? dAdAzrI : Akhira meM jo-jo kArya karane par3ate haiM ve pratikramaNa karane kI zarta para karane caahie| Apako isa saMsAra vyavahAra meM kisa taraha calanA vaha nahIM aataa| vaha hama Apako sikhalAte haiN| usase naye pApa ba~dhege nhiiN| kheta meM to khetIbAr3I kareM, isalie pApa ba~dhate hI haiN| para ve ba~dhate haiM usake sAtha hama Apako davAI dete haiM ki aisA bolnaa| usase pApa kama ho jaaeNge| hama pApa dhone kI davAI dete haiN| davAI nahIM cAhie? kheta meM gae isalie joto-karo, usameM pApa to hoMge hii| aMdara kitane hI jIva mAre jAte haiN| yaha gannA kATate ho to pApa nahIM kahalAtA? ve jIva hI haiM na becAre? para usakA kyA karanA vaha hama Apako samajhAte haiM, jisase Apako doSa kama lage aura bhautika sukha acchI taraha bhogo| khetIbAr3I meM jIvajaMtu mare, usakA doSa to lagatA hai na? isalie khetIbAr3IvAloM ko hararoz2a pA~ca-dasa minaTa bhagavAna ke pAsa prArthanA karanI cAhie ki yaha doSa huA usakI mAfI mA~gatA huuN| kisAna ho use kaheM ki tU yaha kAma karatA hai, usameM jIva marate haiN| usakA isa taraha se pratikramaNa krnaa| tU jo galata karatA hai, usameM mujhe Apatti nhiiN| para usakA tU isa taraha pratikramaNa kr| ahiMsA svarUpajJAnI ko puNya-pApa chUte nahIM praznakartA : jaMtunAzaka davAI hama banAte haiM aura phira ve kheta meM chir3akate haiM, usameM kitane hI jIva mara jAte haiN| to phira usameM pApa lagatA hai yA nahIM lagatA? phira vaha davAI banAnI, vaha pApa kahalAegA yA nahIM? dAdAzrI : haaN| kyoMki vaha davAI jIvoM ko mArane ke uddezya se hI banatI hai| davAI lAte haiM, vaha bhI jIvoM ko mArane ke uddezya se hI lAte haiM aura davAI DAlate haiM vaha jIvoM ko mArane ke uddezya se hI DAlate haiN| isalie sArA pApa hI hai| praznakartA : para usameM hetu aisA hai ki phasala adhika acchI ho, adhika phasala ho| dAdAzrI : aisA hai, yaha phasala kisa AdhAra para hotI hai, kisAna kisa AdhAra para jotate haiM, kisa AdhAra para buAI karate haiM, vaha saba kisake AdhAra para calatA hai, vaha maiM jAnatA huuN| yaha saba nahIM jAnane se logoM ke mana meM aisA hotA hai ki 'yaha to mere AdhAra para cala rahA thaa| yaha to maiMne davAI chir3akI isalie bcaa|' aba yaha AdhAra denA bhayaMkara pApa hai| aura nirAdhAra huA ki vaha saba gira jAtA hai| praznakartA : taba phira puruSArtha kahA~ gayA? dAdAzrI : puruSArtha to, kyA hotA hai use dekhanA-jAnanA vahI puruSArtha hai, dUsarA kucha nhiiN| dUsarA, mana ke vicAra Ate haiM ve 'phAila' haiN| unheM to Apako dekhanA hai| dUsare bakher3e meM utaranA nahIM hai| praznakartA : to phira yaha khetI karanI cAhie yA nahIM karanI cAhie? dAdAzrI : khetI meM Apatti nahIM hai| praznakartA : para usa pApa kA bhAra bar3he usakA kyA? dAdAzrI : aisA hai, isa jJAna ke bAda Apako to pApa aba chUtA nahIM na ! Apa 'khuda' aba caMdUbhAI nahIM rhe| Apa caMdUbhAI ho taba taka pApa
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________________ ahiMsA lagatA hai| 'maiM caMdUbhAI hU~' aisA pakkA hai Apako? praznakartA : naa| dAdAzrI : taba phira pApa kahA~ se ar3e? yaha cArja hI nahIM hogA na! jitanI khetI AI ho utane kA nikAla karanA hai| vaha 'phAila' hai| A par3I, usa 'phAila' kA samabhAva se nikAla karanA hai| parantu yadi mere kahe anusAra 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' kabhI bhI cUke nahIM, to cAhe jitanI davAI DAlegA taba bhI use chUTegA nhiiN| kyoMki 'khuda' 'zuddhAtmA' hai| aura davAI DAlanevAlA kauna? caMdUbhAI hai| aura Apako jo dayA AtI ho to 'Apa' 'caMdUbhAI' ho jaao| praznakartA : aisI davAI banAne se, becane se, kharIdane se, DAlane se use karma kA baMdha hotA hai yA nahIM? dAdAzrI : hA~, para vaha to davAIyoM ke kArakhAne jinhoMne banAe haiM ve saba mujhe pUchate haiM ki 'dAdA, aba hamArA kyA hogA?' maiMne kahA, 'mere kahe anusAra rahoge to Apako kucha bhI honevAlA nahIM hai|' praznakartA : taba phira usakA artha aisA huA ki zuddhAtmA bhAva se hiMsA kI jA sakatI hai na? dAdAzrI : hiMsA karane kI bAta hI nahIM hai| zuddhAtmA bhAva meM hiMsA hotI hI nhiiN| karane kA kucha bhI nahIM hotA na! praznakartA : to phira AcArasaMhitA kI dRSTi se doSa nahIM kahalAtA? dAdAzrI : AcArasaMhitA kI dRSTi se doSa nahIM khlaataa| AcArasaMhitA kaba hotI hai? ki Apa caMdUbhAI ho taba taka aacaarsNhitaa| to usa dRSTi se doSa hI kahA jaaegaa| parantu isa 'jJAna' ke bAda aba Apa to caMdUbhAI nahIM ho, zuddhAtmA ho gae aura vaha Apako niraMtara dhyAna meM rahatA hai| maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' aisA niraMtara hameM dhyAna rahanA, vaha zukladhyAna hai| 'maiM caMdUbhAI hU~' vaha ahaMkArI dhyAna hai| ahiMsA apane mahAtmA itane haiM, para kisI ne durupayoga kiyA nahIM hai| vaise mujhe pUchate z2arUra haiM, aura phira kahate haiM ki, 'hama kAma baMda kara deM?' maiMne kahA, 'naa| kAma baMda ho jAe to baMda hone denA aura baMda nahIM ho to calane denaa|' hiMsaka vyApAra praznakartA : yaha jo kAma pahale karate the, jaMtunAzaka davAIyoM kA vyApAra, usa samaya use dimAg2a meM bAta nahIM baiThatI thI ki yaha karma ke hisAba se jo vyApAra milA hai, usameM kyA harja hai? kisI ko mA~sa becane kA ho to usameM usakA kyA doSa? usake to karma ke hisAba meM jo thA vaha hI AyA na? dAdAzrI : aisA hai na, phira aMdara zaMkA nahIM par3I ho to calatA rhtaa| parantu yaha zaMkA paDI. vaha usake puNya ke kaarnn| jabaradasta puNya khlaae| nahIM to yaha jar3atA A jaatii| vahA~ koI jIva mare ve kama nahIM hue, Apake hI jIva aMdara mara jAte haiM aura jar3atA AtI hai| jAgRti baMda ho jAtI hai, Dala ho jAtI hai| praznakartA : abhI bhI purAne mitra mujhe milate haiM sabhI, to sabhI ko aisA kahatA hU~ ki isameM se nikala jAo aura unheM pacAsa udAharaNa batAe ki dekho itanA U~cA caDhA haA nIce gira gyaa| para phira sabhI ko nahIM baiThatA hai dimAg2a meM! phira Thokara khAkara sabhI vApisa nikala ge| dAdAzrI : yAnI kitanA pApa ho, taba hiMsAvAlA vyApAra hAtha meM AtA hai| aisA hai na, isa hiMsaka kAma meM se chUTa jAe~ to uttama khlaae| dUsare bahuta kAma-dhaMdhe hote haiN| aba eka vyakti mujhe kahatA hai, mere sabhI vyApAroM meM se yaha kirAnA kA vyApAra bahuta phAyadevAlA hai| maiMne use samajhAyA ki jIvajaMtu par3a jAte haiM taba kyA karate ho, jvAra meM aura bAjarI meM sabameM? taba kahatA hai, vaha to hama kyA kareM? hama chAna DAlate haiN| sabakucha karate haiN| usakI sa~bhAla karate haiN| para ve raha jAe~ usameM hama kyA kareM? maiMne kahA, 'raha jAe~ usakA hameM harja nahIM hai, para una jaMtuoM ke paise Apa lete ho?
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________________ ahiMsA ahiMsA tola meM? hA~, bhale hI do tolA!' are yaha to koI lAipha hai? una jIvoM kA tola hotA hai ekAdha tolA! usa tola ke paise lie| uttama vyApAra, jauharI kA matalaba puNyazAlI ko kauna-sA vyApAra milatA hai? jisameM kama se kama hiMsA ho vaha vyApAra puNyazAlI ko mila jAtA hai| aba aisA vyApAra kauna-sA? hIre-mANika kA, ki jisameM koI milAvaTa nahIM hai| para unameM bhI jo ki Ajakala coriyA~ hI ho gaI haiN| parantu jise milAvaTa binA karanA ho to kara sakatA hai| usameM jIva marate nahIM, kucha upAdhI nhiiN| aura phira dUsare naMbara para sone-cA~dI kaa| aura sabase adhika hiMsAvAlA vyApAra kauna-sA? yaha kasAI kaa| phira yaha kumhAra kaa| ve bhaTThI jalAte haiM na! isalie saba hiMsA hI hai| praznakartA : cAhe kisI bhI ciMtA kA phala to milatA hI hai na? hiMsA kA phala to bhugatanA hI hai na? cAhe phira bhAvahiMsA ho yA dravyahiMsA ho? dAdAzrI : ve loga bhugatate hI haiM na! sArA dina tar3aphar3AhaTa aura tar3aphar3AhaTa.... jitane hiMsaka vyApAravAle haiM na, ve vyApArI sukhI nahIM dikhte| unake ma~ha para teja nahIM AtA kabhI bhii| jamIna kA mAlika hala nahIM calAtA ho, use bahuta chUtA nahIM hai| jotanevAle ko chUtA hai, isalie vaha sukhI nahIM hotaa| pahale se niyama hai yaha sb| isalie disa iz2a baTa necrl| ye kAmadhaMdhe milanA aura ye saba necurala hai| yadi Apa baMda kara do na, taba bhI vaha baMda ho aisA nahIM hai| kyoMki usameM kucha cale aisA nahIM hai| nahIM to ina sabhI logoM ke mana meM vicAra Ae ki 'lar3akA senA meM jAe aura mara jAe to merI beTI vidhavA ho jaaegii|' taba to hamAre deza meM vaisA mAla paidA hI nahIM ho| parantu nahIM, vaha mAla hara eka deza meM hotA hI hai| kudaratI niyama aisA hI hai| isalie yaha saba kudarata hI paidA karatI hai| isameM kucha nayA hotA nahIM hai| kudarata kA isake pIche hAtha hai| isalie bahuta vaisA rakhanA mt| saMgraha, vaha bhI hiMsA praznakartA : vyApArI naphAkhorI karate haiM, koI udyogapati yA vyApArI mehanata ke sAmane kama mehanatAnA dete haiM athavA koI mehanata binA kI kamAI ho, to vaha hiMsA kahalAtI hai? dAdAzrI : vaha saba hiMsA hI hai| praznakartA : aba vaha muphta kI kamAI karake dharmakArya meM paise kharca kare, to vaha kisa prakAra kI hiMsA kahalAegI? dAdAzrI : jitanA dharmakArya meM kharca kiyA, jitanA tyAga kara gayA, utanA kama doSa lgaa| jitanA kamAyA thA, lAkha rupaye kamAyA thA, aba usane assI haz2Ara kA aspatAla banavAyA to utane rupayoM kI usakI jimmedArI nahIM rhii| bIsa haz2Ara kI hI jimmedArI rhii| yAnI acchA hai, galata nahIM hai| praznakartA : loga lakSmI kA saMgraha karake rakhate haiM vaha hiMsA kahalAegI yA nahIM? dAdAzrI : hiMsA hI khlaaegii| saMgraha karanA, vaha hiMsA hai| dUsare logoM ke kAma nahIM lagatI na! praznakartA : lakjuriyasa lAipha jIne ke lie saMhAra karake adhika lakSmI prApta kareM to vaha kyA kahalAegA? dAdAzrI : vaha gunAha hI kahalAegA na! jitanA gunAha ho utanA hameM daMDa milegaa| jitane kama parigraha se jIyA jA sake, vaha uttama jIvana hai| sAmanA, para zAMti se praznakartA : corI nahIM karanI, hiMsA nahIM karanI, aisA Apa kahate ho| to koI vyakti apanI vastu corI kara le, vaha hamAre sAtha dhokhA kre| taba hameM usakA sAmanA karanA cAhie yA nahIM?
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________________ ahiMsA dAdAzrI : sAmanA karanA hI caahie| para vaha hameM aisA sAmanA karanA nahIM hai ki apanA mana bigar3a jaae| khUba dhIre se hama kaheM ki, 'bhAI, maiMne ApakA kyA bigAr3A hai ki yaha saba aisA kara rahe ho?' aura apanA sau rupaye kA curA gayA ho aura hama usa para gussA ho jAe~ to hamane una sau rupayoM ke lie apanA pA~ca sau rupayoM kA nukasAna kiyaa| isalie aisA sau rupaye ke lie pA~ca sau rupayoM kA nukasAna hameM nahIM karanA hai| isalie zAMti se bAta karanI caahie| gussA nahIM karanA caahie| hiMsA kA virodha, bacAe anumodanA se... praznakartA : mAnasika duHkha denA, kisI ko dhokhA denA, vizvAsaghAta karanA, corI karanA bagairaha sUkSma hiMsA mAnI jAtI hai? dAdAzrI : vaha saba hiMsA hI hai| sthUla hiMsA se bhI adhika yaha hiMsA bar3I hai| usakA phala bahuta bar3A AtA hai| kisI ko mAnasika duHkha denA, kisI ko dhokhA denA, vizvAsaghAta karanA. corI karanI vaha saba raudradhyAna meM jAtA hai| aura raudradhyAna kA phala narkagati hai| praznakartA : parantu usa sUkSma hiMsA ko hI mahatva dekara bar3I dravyahiMsA, gUMge prANiyoM ke prati krUratA, hatyA aura unake zoSaNa se yA hiMsA se prApta kI gaI sAmagriyA~ upayoga karanA yA unheM protsAhana dekara bar3I hiMsA ke prati udAsInatA rakhI jAe to vaha ucita mAnA jAegA? dAdAzrI : vaha ucita nahIM mAnA jaaegaa| usakA virodha to honA hI caahie| virodha nahIM to Apa usakI anumodanA kara rahe ho, do meM se eka jagaha para ho| yadi virodha nahIM hotA to anumodanA karate ho| isIlie cAhe jo ho yA jJAnI ho, parantu unheM virodha pradarzita karane kI z2arUrata hai| nahIM to anumodanA meM cale jaaeNge| praznakartA : hiMsA karanevAlA koI bhI pazu-pakSI yA cAhe jo ho, to unake udaya meM hiMsA AI huI hotI hai, to use rokane ke lie hama nimitta bana sakate haiM? ahiMsA dAdAzrI : cAhe jinake udaya meM vaha AyA ho aura Apa yadi rokane ke nimitta nahIM bano to Apa hiMsA kI anumodanA karate ho| isalie Apako rokane kA prayatna karanA caahie| aura cAhe jo udaya ho, parantu Apako to rokane kA prayatna karanA hI caahie| jaise rAste meM koI jA rahA ho aura usake karma ke udaya se vaha TakarAyA aura paira meM coTa laga gaI, aura Apa vahA~ se jA rahe hoM, to Apako utarakara aura apane kapar3e se use paTTA bA~dhanA caahie| gAr3I meM le jAkara rakha AnA caahie| bhale usake karma ke udaya se aisA huA ho, para Apake bhAva batAne caahie| nahIM to Apa usake virodhI bhAva se ba~dha jAoge aura mukta nahIM ho paaoge| yaha jagat aisA nahIM ki mukta kara ske| praznakartA : adhyAtma meM ruci rakhanevAle ke lie hiMsA rokane kA prayatna karanA z2arUrI mAnA jAtA hai kyA? yadi z2arUrI hotA ho to usa bAre meM Apa mArgadarzana-upadeza-salAha deMge? dAdAzrI : adhyAtma meM ruci rakhate hoM aura hiMsA rokane kA prayatna nahIM kareM ve to hiMsA kI preraNA kI khlaaegii| hiMsA rokane ke prayatna na kareM, to hiMsA kI anumodanA kI khlaaegii| isalie cAhe jo adhyAtma ho, parantu hiMsA rokane kA prayatna to honA hI caahie| praznakartA : aise saMyogoM meM bar3I dravyahiMsA kA nivAraNa kisalie nahIM sUjhatA hogA? dAdAzrI : usa dravyahiMsA ke nivAraNa kI khAsa z2arUrata hai| usake lie hama dUsare prayatna kareM, acchI taraha sabhI ikaTThe hokara aura maMDala kI racanA kareM aura gavarnamenTa meM bhI apane cane hae vyaktiyoM ko bhejeM to bahuta phala milegaa| sabhI ko bhAva karane kI z2arUrata hai, aura maz2abUta bhAva karane kI z2arUrata hai, protsAhana dene kI z2arUrata hai| praznakartA : parantu dAdA, Aqhira meM to yaha saba hisAba hI hai na? dAdAzrI : hA~, hisAba hai| para use hisAba kahanA hai to vaha ho jAne
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________________ ahiMsA ke bAda khlaaegaa| hisAba kaheM to saba bigaDa jaaegaa| hamAre gA~va meM sAdhabAbA Ate hoM aura baccoM ko uThAkara le jAte hoM taba hama kahate haiM na ki pakar3o ina logoM ko aura roka do! isalie jaise khuda ke bacce ko koI le jAe, uThA jAe to kitanA dukha hogA? usI taraha ye gAyeM-bhaiMseM ve saba kaTate haiM, unake lie mana meM bahuta hI dukha rahanA cAhie, aura unake sAmane virodha honA caahie| nahIM to vaha kAma saphala hI nahIM hogA na! baiThe rahane kI z2arUrata hI nhiiN| use karma kA udaya mAneM, para bhagavAna bhI aisA nahIM mAnate the| bhagavAna bhI virodha pradarzita karate the| isalie hameM virodha pradarzita karanA cAhie, ekatA sarjita karanI cAhie aura usakA sAmanA karanA caahie| isameM to koI hiMsA ke virodhI nahIM haiM, para ahiMsaka bhAva hai yaha to! kRSNa kA govadhana - gAyoM kA vardhana kRSNa bhagavAna ke kAla meM hiMsA bahuta bar3ha gaI thii| taba kRSNa bhagavAna ne phira kyA kiyA? govardhana parvata uThAyA, eka u~galI se| aba govardhana parvata u~galI para uThAyA, vaha zabda sthUla meM raha gyaa| parantu loga unakI sUkSma bhASA samajhe nhiiN| govardhana matalaba gAyoM kA vardhana kaise ho, aisA saba jagaha-jagaha Ayojana kiyA aura gaurakSA kA Ayojana kiyaa| vardhana kA aura rakSA kA donoM Ayojana kie| kyoMki hindustAna ke logoM kA mukhya jIvana hI isa para AdhArita hai| isalie bahuta hI hiMsA bar3ha jAe na taba dUsarA saba chor3akara pahale yaha sNbhaalo| aura jo hiMsaka jAnavara haiM na, unake lie to hameM kucha karane kI z2arUrata nahIM hai| ve jAnavara khuda hI hiMsaka haiN| unake lie Apako kucha karane kI jarurata nahIM hai| unheM koI mAratA bhI nahIM na aura ve khAe bhI nahIM jAte na! isa bille ko kauna khAe? kutte ko kauna khA jAe? koI nahIM khAe aura kisI se khAyA bhI nahIM jaae| isalie yaha akelA hI, govardhana aura gaurakSA, do vastue~ hI pahale pakar3ane jaisI hai| govardhana ke bahuta upAya karane caahie| kRSNa bhagavAna ne eka u~galI ke Upara govardhana kiyA na, vaha bahuta U~cI cIz2a kI thii| unhoMne jagaha 30 ahiMsA jagaha govardhana kI sthApanA kI thI aura gauzAlAe~ zurU kara dii| hajAroM gAyoM kA poSaNa ho aisA kiyaa| govardhana aura gaurakSA, ye donoM sthApita kie| rakSA kI isalie ruka gyaa| aura phira ghara-ghara ghI, dUdha sabhI cIjeM milA kareMgI na! isalie gAyoM ko bacAne ke badale gAyoM kI AbAdI kisa prakAra bar3he, usake lie bahuta kucha karane kI z2arUrata hai| gAyeM rakhane se itane phAyade haiM, gAyoM ke dUdha meM itanA phAyade haiM, gAyoM ke ghI meM itane phAyade haiM, vaha saba opana kiyA jAe aura anivArya to nahIM parantu maraz2I se, logoM ko khuda samajhAkara aura hara eka gA~va meM gAyoM kA rivAz2a kiyA jAe to gAyeM bahuta bar3ha jaaegii| pahale saba jagaha gauzAlA rakhate the, vahA~ hajAra-haz2Ara gAyeM rakhate the| isalie gAyeM bar3hAne kI z2arUrata hai| yaha to gAyeM bar3hatI nahIM aura eka tarapha yaha calatA rahatA hai| para yaha to kisI ko bhI hamase nA nahIM kahA jA sakatA! nA kahe to gunAha kahalAtA hai| aura koI thor3e hI galata karatA hai? bacAtA hai na! praznakartA : hama gAyeM chur3avAte nahIM, parantu Ane se rokate haiN| dAdAzrI : hA~, Ane se rokate rho| usake mUla mAlika ko samajhAo ki isa taraha mata krnaa| abhI to govardhana aura gaurakSA, pahale ye do niyama pkdd'o| dUsare saba sekanDarI! yaha kamplITa ho jAe~, phira duusre| isalie yaha govardhana aura gaurakSA, ye do kRSNa bhagavAna ne jyAdA pakar3a rakhA thaa| aura govardhana karanevAle gopa aura gopii| gopa matalaba gau pAlana karanevAle! praznakartA : govardhana, yaha bAta bahuta nayI hI milii| dAdAzrI : hA~, bAteM haiM hI sb| para yadi unakA vivaraNa ho taba kAma kaa| bAkI to bAteM saba hotI haiM hI aura saccI hI hotI hai| parantu ye loga phira use sthUla meM le ge| kaheMge, 'govardhana parvata utthaayaa|' isIlie ve faoNrena ke sAinTisTa kaheMge, 'pAgala jaisI hai yaha bAta, parvata uThAyA jAtA hogA kisI se?' uThAyA, to himAlaya kyoM nahIM uThAyA? aura phira tIra
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________________ 32 ahiMsA alAbha hotA ho to vaha baMda kara do| parantu yaha to alAbha se adhika lAbha hotA hai| para tU phUla car3hAegA nahIM, to terA vyApAra baMda ho gyaa| ahiMsA lagane se kyoM mara gae? para aisA nahIM hai| govardhana unhoMne bahuta suMdara tarIke se kiyA thaa| kyoMki usa samaya meM hiMsA bahuta bar3ha gaI thI, jabaradasta hiMsA bar3ha gaI thii| kyoMki muslima akele hiMsA karate haiM, aisA nahIM hai| hinduoM meM kucha Upara kI kvaoNliTI hI hiMsA nahIM karatI, dUsarI sabhI prajA hiMsA karanevAlI hai| hiMsaka bhAva to nahIM hI honA cAhie na! manuSya ko ahiMsaka bhAva to honA hI cAhie na! ahiMsA ke lie jIvana kharca kara DAlanA, vaha ahiMsaka bhAva kahalAtA hai| kyA pUjA ke puSpa meM pApa? praznakartA : maMdira meM pUjA karane ke lie phUla car3hAne meM pApa hai yA nahIM? dAdAzrI : maMdira meM bhagavAna kI pUjA karane meM phUla car3hAe jAte haiM, use dUsarI dRSTi se dekhanA hai| phUla tor3anA, vaha gunAha hai| phUla mola lenA, vaha bhI gunAha hai| para dUsarI dRSTi se dekhate hue usameM lAbha hai| kaunasI dRSTi, vaha maiM Apako smjhaauuN| Aja kucha loga mAnate haiM ki phUla meM mahAdoSa hai aura kucha loga phUla ko bhagavAna para car3hAte haiN| aba usameM kharI haqIqata kyA hai? yaha vItarAgoM kA mArga jo hai, vaha lAbhAlAbha kA mArga hai| do phUla gulAba ke tor3akara lAyA, vaha usane hiMsA to kii| usakI jagaha para se tor3A isalie hiMsA to huI hI hai| aura vaha phUla khada ke lie kAma meM nahIM letaa| para vaha phUla bhagavAna para car3hAe yA phira jJAnI puruSa para car3hAe, vaha dravyapUjA huI khlaaegii| aba yaha hiMsA karane ke lie phAIva parasenTa kA daMDa karo aura bhagavAna para phUla car3hAe to phorTI parasenTa prophiTa do yA phira jJAnI puruSa para phUla car3hAe~ to tharTI parasenTa prophiTa do| phira bhI paccIsa pratizata bace na isalie lAbhAlAbha ke vyavahAra ke lie hai yaha sArA jagat / lAbhAlAbha kA vyApAra karanA caahie| aura yadi lAbha kama hotA ho aura puSpa paMkhur3I jahA~ dukha pAe... praznakartA : abhI taka jo puSpa tor3e hoMge, to unake koI pApa doSa lage hoMge? dAdAzrI : are, puSpa eka haz2Ara varSa tor3e aura eka z2indagI logoM ke sAtha yA ghara meM kaSAya kare, ghara meM kalaha kare, to usase adhika ina kaSAyoM kA doSa bar3ha jAtA hai| isalie kalaha pahale baMda karane kA kahA hai bhagavAna ne| puSpoM kA to koI harja nhiiN| phira bhI puSpa z2arUrata na ho to nahIM tor3ane caahie| z2arUrata matalaba devatAoM ko car3hAe~ to harja nahIM hai| zauka ke lie nahIM tor3ane caahie| praznakartA : parantu aisA kahate haiM na, 'puSpa pA~khar3I jyAM dubhAya jinavaranI nahIM tyAM AjJA' (puSpa paMkhur3I jahA~ dukha pAe, jinavara kI nahIM vahA~ aajnyaa)| dAdAzrI : vaha to kRpAludeva ne kahA hai| tIrthaMkaroM ne likhA thA, phira kRpAludeva ne tIrthaMkara ke zabda likhe haiN| para vaha to kahA~ para? ki jise isa saMsAra kI koI cIz2a nahIM cAhie, aisI zreNI utpanna ho taba ! aura Apako to abhI yaha buzazarTa pahananA hai na? praznakartA : vaha bhI istrIvAlA! dAdAzrI : aura vaha bhI phira istrIvAlA! isalie isa saMsAra ke logoM ko to hara eka cIz2a caahie| isalie kahate haiM ki, 'bhagavAna ke sira para phUla cddh'aanaa|' to apane tIrthaMkara bhagavAna kI mUrti para phUla rakhate haiM yA nahIM rakhate? Apane nahIM dekhA abhI taka? mUrtipUjA karane nahIM gae haiM na?! vahA~ mUrti para phUla rakhate haiN| bhagavAna ne sAdhuoM se kahA thA ki Apa bhAvapUjA krnaa| aura jaina dravyapUjA sAtha meM kreN| dravyapUjA karane se unakI ar3acaneM sabhI khatama ho
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________________ ahiMsA 34 ahiMsA jAtI hai| isalie hama kyA kahate haiM ki jise ar3acana ho, ve jJAnI puruSa ko phUla car3hAe~ aura ar3acana na ho use koI z2arUrata nhiiN| sabhI ko kyA eka jaisA hotA hai? kucha logoM ko kaisI-kaisI ar3acaneM hotI hai! ve sabhI calI jAtI haiN| aura 'jJAnI puruSa' ko to isameM kucha chUtA nahIM hai aura bAdhaka bhI nahIM hotaa| phira bhI kucha loga mujhe kahate haiM ki 'puSpa pAMkhaDI jyAM dubhAya jinavaranI nahIM aajnyaa| bhagavAna kI AjJA nahIM hai na?' maiMne kahA, 'yaha to kaoNleja ke tIsare varSa kI bAta abhI sekanDa sTenDarDa meM kisalie le Ate ho? kaoNleja ke tIsare varSa meM usa para aTenzana denA hai| Apa abhI sekanDa meM kisalie lAte ho yaha saba?' taba ve kahate haiM, 'vaha to vicAra karane jaisI bAta hai|' maiMne kahA, 'taba vicAra kro| yaha sekanDa, tharDa sTenDarDa meM lAne kI jarUrata nahIM hai| Apa aMtima varSa meM Ao taba karanA na!' taba kahate haiM ki, 'usakI limiTa kitanI hotI hai?' maiMne kahA ki, 'aMtima janma meM bhagavAna mahAvIra vivAhita the, aisA Apa nahIM jAnate?' taba kahate haiM ki, 'hA~, vivAhita the|' maiMne kahA ki, 'kitane varSa taka saMsAra meM rahe the?' taba kahe, 'tIsa varSoM tk|' maiMne kahA ki, 'saMsAra meM rahe the usakA koI pramANa hai Apake pAsa?' taba kahate haiM ki, 'unake beTI thI na!' maiMne kahA ki, 'saMsAra meM rahate haiM isalie ve to strI ke aparigrahI to nahIM hI the na? parigrahI the| parigrahI hoM to beTI hogI na? nahIM to pramANa kyA hogA? isalie tIsa varSa taka ve aparigrahI the| to bhagavAna ne aisA kyA dekhA ki strI kA parigraha usa janma meM ho aura usa janma meM mokSa meM bhI jA sakeM? to unhoMne aisI kyA khoja kI?! isalie yaha phAinala bAta hai saarii| isalie mUrti ko bhI phUla car3hAe jA sakate haiM aura apane tIrthaMkaroM kI mUrti para bhI phUla car3hAe jA sakate haiN| ye to aise phUla kI paMkhur3I ko nahIM dukha dete aura aise sAthavAloM ke sAtha kaSAya kara-karake dama nikAla DAlate haiN| puSpa kI paMkhur3I dukha nahIM pAe, aise manuSya se to, eka kuttA so rahA ho aura vaha udhara se guz2are to kuttA jage nahIM, aisA hotA yaha puSpa paMkhur3I taba bhI na dukha pAe aisA aMtima janma meM aMtima paMdraha varSa mokSa jAne meM bAkI rahe hoM, taba hI baMda karanA hotA hai| isalie aMtima paMdraha varSa ke lie sa~bhAla lenA hai| aura jaba se strI kA yoga chor3ate haiM, usake bAda apane Apa ye puSpa aura ye sabhI rakha denA hotA hai| aura vaha to apane Apa hI baMda ho jAtA hai| isalie taba taka vyavahAra meM koI dakhala karanI nhiiN| ekendriya jIvoM kI sRSTi praznakartA : ye apakAya, teukAya, pRthvIkAya, vAyukAya, vanaspatikAya, ve kyA hai? dAdAzrI : ve saba ekendriya jIva haiN| praznakartA : pAnI meM jIva hai vaha hameM zraddhA baiTha gaI hai isalie hama ubAlakara pAnI pIte haiN| dAdAzrI : merA kahanA hai ki pAnI meM jIvoM kI bAta Apa jo samajhe ho aura kahate ho, vaha to ina logoM kA kahA huA Apane mAna liyA hai| bAkI, bAta isameM samajha Ae aisI nahIM hai| Aja ke bar3e-bar3e sAinTisToM ko samajha meM Ae aisI nahIM hai na! aura bAta bahuta sUkSma hai| vaha jJAnI khuda samajha sakate haiN| parantu ise vistArapUrvaka samajhAne jAe~, taba bhI Apako samajha meM nahIM Ae aisI bAta hai| ye pA~ca jo haiM na, unameM vanaspatikAya akelA hI samajha meM Ae aisA hai| bAkI vAyukAya, teukAya, jalakAya aura pRthvIkAya, ina cAra jIvoM ko samajhane ke lie bahuta U~cA levala caahie| praznakartA : sAinTisTa vahI khoja kara rahe haiM na! dAdAzrI : para sAinTisTa nahIM samajha skeNge| sirpha isa per3a meM hI samajha sakate haiN| vaha bhI bahuta prakAra se nahIM, kucha hI prakAra se samajha sakate haiN| hai| aisA hai, yaha Apako bhagavAna kI bhASA kI bAta kaha duuN| ye per3a
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________________ ahiMsA paudhe jo saba khulI A~khoM se dikhate haiM, ve vanaspatikAya haiN| isa per3a meM bhI jIva hai| yaha vAyukAya yAnI vAyu meM bhI jIva haiM, unheM vAyukAya jIva kahA hai| phira yaha miTTI hai na, usake aMdara bhI jIva haiM aura miTTI bhI haiN| yaha himAlaya meM miTTI hai, patthara haiM, una sabhI meM jIva haiN| patthara bhI jIvita hote haiM, unheM pRthvIkAya jIva kahA hai| ye agni meM lapaTeM uThatI haiM na, usa ghar3I usa koyale meM agni nahIM hotii| ve to teukAya jIva vahA~ ikaTThe ho jAte haiN| ve teukAya jiiv| yaha pAnI pIte haiM, ve kevala jIvoM kA hI banA huA hai| hA~, jIva aura unakI deha- donoM milakara yaha pAnI hai| unheM bhagavAna ne apakAya nAma ke jIva kahA hai| jina kA pAnIrUpI zarIra hai| aise kitane sAre jIvoM ke ikaTThe hone se eka pyAlA pAnI banatA hai| aba yaha pAnI-vaha jIva, yaha khurAka-vaha jIva, yaha havA-vaha bhI kevala jIva, saba jIva hI haiN| siddhi, ahiMsA kI praznakartA : to aba ahiMsA kisa prakAra siddha ho? dAdAzrI : ahiMsA? ohoho, ahiMsA siddha ho jAe to manuSya bhagavAna ho jAe! abhI thor3I-bahuta ahiMsA pAlate ho? praznakartA : saadhaarnn| bahuta nhiiN| dAdAzrI : to phira thor3I-bahuta pAlana karane kA nizcica karo na ! are phira siddha hone kI bAteM kahA~ karate ho? ahiMsA siddha ho jAe to bhagavAna ho gayA! praznakartA : ahiMsA pAlane kA upAya btaaie| dAdAzrI : eka to, jo jIva apane se trAsa pAe use dukha nahIM denA cAhie, use trAsa nahIM denA caahie| aura gehU~ hai, bAjarA hai, cAvala hai, unheM khaao| usakA harja nahIM hai| ve apane se trAsa nahIM pAte, ve abhAna avasthA meM haiM aura ye kIr3e-makor3e ve to daur3a jAte haiM, unheM nahIM mAranA caahie| ye sIpa-zaMkha ke jo jIva hote haiM, jo hilate-Dulate haiM aise do indriya se ahiMsA lekara aura pA~ca indriya taka ke jIvoM ko kucha nahIM karanA caahie| khaTamala ko bhI Apa pakar3o to trasta ho jAtA hai| isalie Apa use mAro nhiiN| samajha meM AyA na? praznakartA : hA~, samajha meM aayaa| dAdAzrI : hA~, dUsarA, sUryanArAyaNa ke asta ho jAne ke bAda bhojana mata kro| aba tIsarA, ahiMsA meM jIbha kA bahuta kaMTrola rakhanA par3atA hai| Apako koI kahe ki Apa nAlAyaka ho, to Apako sukha hotA hai yA dukha hotA hai? praznakartA : dukha hotA hai| dAdAzrI : to Apako itanA samajha jAnA hai ki hama use 'nAlAyaka' kaheM to use dukha hogaa| vaha hiMsA hai, isalie hameM nahIM kahanA caahie| yadi ahiMsA pAlanI ho to hiMsA ke lie bahuta sAvadhAnI rakhanI par3atI hai| hameM jisase dukha hotA hai, vaisA dUsaroM ko nahIM kaha skte| phira mana meM kharAba vicAra bhI nahIM AnA caahie| kisI kA muphta meM le lenA hai, har3apa lenA hai aise vicAra koI Ane hI nahIM caahie| bahuta paise ikaTaThe karane ke vicAra nahIM Ane caahie| kyoMki zAstrakAroM ne kyA kahA hai ki paise tere hisAba ke jo haiM, ve to tere lie AyA hI karate haiN| to bahuta paise ikaTThe karane ke vicAra karane kI tujhe z2arUrata hI nhiiN| tU aisA vicAra kare to usakA artha hiMsA hotA hai| kyoMki dUsare ke pAsa se har3apa lenA, dUsaroM kA kvoTA hameM le lene kI icchA hotI hai, isalie vahA~ bhI vaha hiMsA samAI huI hai| isalie aise koI bhAva nahIM krnaa| praznakartA : basa, ye tIna hI upAya haiM ahiMsA ke? dAdAzrI : aura bhI haiM duusre| phira mA~sAhAra, aMDe, kabhI bhI nahIM khAne caahie| phira AlU hai, pyAz2a hai, lahasuna hai, ye cIz2a mata lenaa| koI rAstA na ho taba bhI mata lenaa| kyoMki ye pyAz2a-lahasuna hiMsaka hai, manuSya
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________________ ahiMsA ko krodhI banAte haiM aura krodha ho, taba sAmanevAle ko dukha hotA hai| dUsarI Apako jo sabjI khAnI ho vaha khaanaa| pahale bar3e jIva bacAo aba bhagavAna kyA kahanA cAhate haiM ki pahale manuSyoM ko sNbhaalo| hA~, vaha bAunDrI sIkho ki manuSyoM ko to mana-vacana-kAyA se kiMcit mAtra dukha nahIM denA hai| phira paMcendriya jIva- gAya, bheMsa, murgI, bakare, ye saba jo haiM, unakI manuSyoM se thor3I-bahuta kama, parantu unakI sa~bhAla rakhanI caahie| unheM dukha nahIM ho aisA dhyAna rakhanA caahie| matalaba yahA~ taka dhyAna rakhanA hai| manuSya ke alAvA ke paMcendriya jIvoM ko, lekina vaha sekanDarI sTeja meN| phira tIsarI sTeja kauna-sI AtI hai? do indriya se Upara ke jIvoM kA dhyAna rkhnaa| AhAra meM sabase U~cA AhAra kauna-sA? ekendriya jIvoM kA! do indriya ke Upara ke jIvoM ke AhAra kA, jise mokSa meM jAnA ho use adhikAra nahIM hai| isalie do indriya se adhika indriyavAle jIvoM kI jokhima hameM nahIM uThAnI caahie| kyoMki jitanI unakI indriyA~ utane pramANa meM puNya kI z2arUrata hai, utanA manuSya kA puNya kharca ho jAtA hai! manuSya ko khurAka khAe binA chuTakArA hI nahIM aura usa jIva kA nukasAna to manuSya ko avazya jAtA hai| apanA jo bhojana hai vaha ekendriya jIva hI hai| unakA bhojana hama kareM to ve bhojya aura hama bhoktA haiM aura taba taka jimmedArI AtI hai| para bhagavAna ne yaha chUTa dI hai| kyoMki Apa mahAna silaka (pUMjI, rAhakharca)vAle ho aura Apa una jIvoM kA nAza karate ho| para una jIvoM ko khAte haiM, usameM una jIvoM ko kyA phAyadA? aura una jIvoM ko khAne se nAza to hotA hI hai| parantu aisA hai, yaha bhojana khAyA isalie Apako daMDa lAgU hotA hai| para vaha khAkara bhI Apa naphA adhika kamAte ho| sAre dina jIe aura dharma kiyA to Apa sau kamAte ho| usameM se dasa kA jurmAnA Apako unheM cukAnA par3atA hai| isalie nabbe Apake pAsa rahe haiM aura ApakI kamAI meM se dasa unheM milane se unakI ahiMsA Urdhvagati hotI hai| yAnI yaha to kudarata ke niyama ke AdhAra para hI Urdhvagati ho rahI hai| ve ekendriya meM se do indriya meM A rahe haiN| yAnI isa prakAra yaha kramapUrvaka bar3hatA hI jA rahA hai| ina manuSyoM ke lAbha meM se ve jIva lAbha uThAte haiN| isa taraha hisAba sArA cukatA hotA rahatA hai| yaha saba sAinsa logoM ko samajha meM nahIM AtA na! isalie ekendriya meM hAtha mata ddaalnaa| ekendriya jIvoM meM Apa hAtha DAloge to Apa igoiz2amavAle ho, ahaMkArI ho| ekendriya trasa jIva nahIM hai| isalie ekendriya ke lie Apa koI vikalpa karanA nhiiN| kyoMki yaha to vyavahAra hI hai| khAnA-pInA par3egA, saba karanA pdd'egaa| bAkI, jagat sArA jIvajaMtu hI hai| ekendriya jIva kA to sabhI yaha jIvana hI hai| jIva binA to isa duniyA meM koI vastu hI nhiiN| aura nirjIva vastu khAI jA sake aisI nahIM hai| isalie jIvavAlI vastu hI khAnI par3atI hai| usase hI zarIra ko poSaNa milatA hai| aura ekendriya jIva haiM isalie khUna, pIba, mA~sa nahIM hai isalie ekendriya jIva Apako khAne kI chUTa dI hai| isameM to itanI sArI ciMtAe~ karane jAo, to kaba pAra Ae? usa jIva kI ciMtA karanI hI nahIM hai| ciMtA karanI thI vaha raha gae aura nahIM karane kI ciMtA pakar3a rakhI hai| aisI jhInI hiMsA kI to ciMtA karane kI z2arUrata hI nhiiN| kauna-sA AhAra uttama? praznakartA : kramika mArga meM kucha khAsa khurAka khAnA kyoM niSedya dAdAzrI : aisA hai, khurAka ke prakAra haiN| usameM manuSya ko atyaMta ahitakArI khurAka, ki jisase adhika dUsarA kucha ahitakArI nahIM hotA aisA aMtima prakAra kA ahitakArI, vaha manuSya kA mA~sa khAnA, vaha hai| aba usase acchA kyA? jisa jAnavara kI aulAda bar3hatI ho, usa jAnavara kA mA~sa khAnA vaha acchaa| isalie ina murgI-bataka, unakI aulAda bahuta bar3hatI haiN| ina gAyoM-bhaiMsoM kI aulAda kama bar3hatI haiN| ina machaliyoM kI
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________________ ahiMsA aulAda bahuta bar3hatI haiN| to vaha mA~sa khAnA acchaa| usase bhI Age koI kahe, 'hameM pragati karanI hai|' to yaha mA~sa khAnA bhI nukasAnadAyaka hai| usake badale tU aMDe khaa| mA~sa mata khAnA tuu| aba usase bhI Age bar3hanA hai, to use kahU~ ki, 'tU kaMdamUla khaanaa|' usase bhI Age bar3hanA ho to use hama kaheM, 'ina kaMdamUla ke sivAya dAla, cAvala, roTI, laDDU, ghI, gola saba khaanaa|' aura usase Age baDhanA ho to hama kaheM ki. 'ye chaH vIgaI haiM - gola, ghI, zahada, dahI, makkhana aura vaha saba baMda kara aura ye dAla-cAvalaroTI-sabjI khaa|' phira Age yaha kucha bhI rahatA nhiiN| isa prakAra bhojana ke bhAga haiN| usameM jise jo bhAga pasaMda Ae vaha le| ye saba rAste batAe hue haiN| isa prakAra AhAra kA varNana hai| aura yaha varNana samajhane ke lie hai, karane ke lie nahIM hai| ye bhAga kisalie bhagavAna ne kie haiM? ki AvaraNa TUTeM isake lie| isa raste caleM, to aMdara AvaraNa TUTate jAte haiN| vijJAna, rAtribhojana kA ahiMsA praznakartA : parantu rAtribhojana kisalie nahIM lenA cAhie? dAdAzrI : sUrya kI upasthiti meM zAma kA bhojana lenA caahie| aisA jainamata ne kahA hai aura vedAMta ne bhI aisA kahA hai| sUrya jaba taka ho taba taka aMdara paMkhur3I khulI rahatI hai, isalie usa samaya khA lenA cAhie, aisA vedAMta ne kahA hai| isalie rAta ko tU bhojana legA to kyA nukasAna hogA? ki vaha kamala to baMda ho gayA. isalie pAcana to jaldI nahIM hI hogaa| para dUsarA kyA nukasAna hogA? vaha inhoMne, tIrthaMkaroM ne kahA hai ki rAta ko sUryanArAyaNa asta ho jAte haiM, taba jIvajaMtu jo ghUmate haiM, ve saba jIva khuda ke ghara kI tarapha vApisa lauTate haiN| kaue, kutte, kabUtara, phira AkAza ke jIva, sabhI ghara kI tarapha lauTate haiM, khuda ke ghauMsaloM kI tarapha jAte haiN| aMdherA hone se pahale ghara meM ghusa jAte haiN| kaIbAra AkAza meM bAdala jabaradasta Ae hoM aura sUryanArAyaNa asta huA yA nahIM asta huA vaha patA nahIM calatA, parantu jIva vApisa lauTate haiM usa samaya samajha lenA ki ye sUryanArAyaNa asta ho ge| ve jIva apanI AMtarika zakti se dekha sakate haiN| aba usa samaya choTe se choTe jIva bhI ghara meM ghusate haiM aura bahuta sUkSma jIva, jo A~khoM se nahIM dikhate, dUrabIna se nahIM dikhate, aise jIva bhI ghara meM aMdara ghusa jAte haiN| aura aMdara jAkara jahA~ para bhojana hotA hai, usa para baiTha jAte haiN| hameM patA bhI nahIM cale ki aMdara baiThe haiN| kyoMki unakA raMga aisA hotA hai ki cAvala para baiTheM to cAvala jaisA hI raMga hotA hai aura roTI para baiThe to ve roTI ke raMga ke dikhate haiM, bAjare kI roTI para baiThe to usake raMga ke dikhate haiN| isalie rAta ko yaha bhojana nahIM khAnA caahie| rAtribhojana nahIM karanA cAhie, phira bhI loga karate haiN| yaha kucha logoM ko patA nahIM hai ki rAtribhojana se kyA nukasAna hai aura jinheM patA hai ve dUsare saMyogoM meM phaMse hue hote haiN| bAkI rAtribhojana na kareM to bahuta uttama hai| kyoMki vaha mahAvrata hai| vaha pA~ca ke sAtha chaThA mahAvrata jaisA praznakartA : rAtribhojana ke bAre meM kucha mArgadarzana diijie| jaino meM vaha niSedha hai| dAdAzrI : rAtribhojana yadi na kiyA jAe to vaha sabase uttama vastu hai| vaha acchI dRSTi hai| dharma kA aura usakA lenA-denA nahIM hai| phira bhI yaha to dharma meM DAla diyA hai, usakA kAraNa kyA hai? ki jitanI zarIra kI zuddhi hotI hai, utanA dharma meM Age bar3hate haiN| usa hisAba se dharma meM DAla diyA hai| bAkI dharma meM koI usakI z2arUrata nahIM hai| para zarIra kI zuddhi ke lie sabase acchI vastu yaha hai| praznakartA : to ina vItarAgoM ne logoM se jo kahA hai ki rAtribhojana nahIM lenA caahie| vaha pApa-puNya ke lie thA yA zArIrika taMdurustI ke lie thA? dAdAzrI : zArIrika taMdurustI aura hiMsA ke kAraNa bhI kahA thaa| hai| praznakartA : saMyogavaza rAtribhojana karanA par3e to usameM karma kA baMdhana hai?
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________________ ahiMsA dAdAzrI : nhiiN| karma kA baMdhana kucha bhI nahIM hai| vaha kisa AdhAra para tor3anA par3atA hai? aura jo rAtribhojana kA tyAga kiyA, vaha kisI ne sikhalAyA hogA na? praznakartA : jainoM ke saMskAra hote haiM na! dAdAzrI : haaN| to bhagavAna mahAvIra kA nAma lekara pratikramaNa karanA caahie| vaha bhagavAna kI AjJA hai isalie AjJA pAlanI caahie| aura jisa dina nahIM pAlI jA sake to unase mAfI mA~ga lenaa| isalie yadi ahiMsA pAlanI ho, to ho sake taba taka dina meM bhojana karo to uttm| ApakA zarIra bhI bahuta suMdara rhegaa| vaisA jaldI hamezA ke lie khAte ho? praznakartA : abhI-abhI zurU kiyA hai| dAdAzrI : kisane karavAyA? praznakartA : khuda kI icchA se| dAdAzrI : para aba aisA ahiMsA ke hetupUrvaka karatA hU~ aisA maannaa| 'dAdA' ne mujhe samajhAyA hai aura mujhe vaha pasaMda AyA isalie ahiMsA ke lie hI maiM yaha karatA hU~, aisA krnaa| kyoMki yoM hI, hetu na ho to taba taka saba bekAra jAtA hai| Apa kaho ki maiM faoNrena jAne ke lie hI ye paise bharatA huuN| to faoNrena jAne kI TikaTa Apako milegii| para Apane kucha bhI nahIM kahA ho to kisakI TikaTa deM? kaMdamUla, sUkSma jIvoM kA bhaMDAra praznakartA : kaMdamUla khAe~ usameM koI niSedha hai? dAdAzrI : bahuta bar3A niSedha hai| praznakartA : pyAz2a-AlU meM anaMta jIva haiN| dAdAzrI : hA~, anaMtakAya jIva haiM, to? praznakartA : to vaha khAne kA Apa bodha dete haiM? 42 ahiMsA dAdAzrI : bhagavAna ne manA kiyA hai| bhagavAna ne manA kiyA hai vaha ApakI bilIfa meM rahanA hI caahie| aura usake bAvajUda bhI khA lie jAe~, vaha Apake karma kA udaya hai| phira bhI ApakI zraddhA bigar3anI nahIM caahie| bhagavAna ne jo kahA hai, vaha sArI zraddhA nahIM bigar3anI caahie| praznakartA : kaMdamUla nahIM khAne kA kyoM kahA hai? dAdAzrI : kaMdamUla to dimAg2a ko jAgRta nahIM hone dete, aisA hai| praznakartA : ekendriya jIva kI hAni ho isake lie nahIM? dAdAzrI : yaha to loga aisA samajhate haiM ki AlU ke jIvoM kA rakSaNa karane ke lie nahIM khAne haiN| aba AlU bhAte ho taba bahuta idharaudhara mata krnaa| kyoMki dUsarA kucha isa kAla meM khAne kA logoM ko bhAtA nahIM hai| aura vaha chor3a diyA to kyA karoge? praznakartA : para aisA kahate haiM ki AlU khAe~ to pApa lagatA hai| dAdAzrI : aisA hai, kisI jIva ko dukha doge to pApa lgegaa| pati ko, patnI ko, baccoM ko, par3osI ko dukha doge to pApa lgegaa| bAkI, AlU khAne se Apako nukasAna kyA hogA? ki dimAg2a kI sthUlatA AegI, moTI baddhi ho jaaegii| kaMdamala meM sUkSmajIva bahuta haiM, kevala jIvoM kA hI bhaMDAra hai| isalie kaMdamUla se jar3atA AtI hai aura kaSAya utpanna hote haiN| hameM jAgRti kI z2arUrata hai| isalie yadi kaMdamUla kama khAe jAe~ to acchA hai, parantu vaha bhI bhagavAna kI AjJA meM A jAe~, usake bAda phira jAgRti kI z2arUrata hai| aura kaMdamUla khAoge to yaha jAgRti maMda ho jAegI aura jAgRti maMda huI to mokSa meM kisa taraha jAegA? isalie bhagavAna ne yaha saba saccI bAta kahI hai| yaha saba Apase pAlI jA sakeM to pAlo aura na pAlI jA sakeM to koI harja nhiiN| jitanI pAlI jA sakeM utanI paalo| yadi pAlI jA sakeM to acchI bAta hai| bar3e se bar3I hiMsA, kaSAya meM yaha to saba ulTA hI kara diyA hai| eka tarapha aisA karate haiM aura
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________________ ahiMsA 43 eka tarapha dekho kaSAya karate haiM! isalie tIna rupaye kA phAyadA karatA hai aura karor3a rupaye kA nukasAna uThAtA hai! aba ise vyApArI kaise kahA jAe? aura yaha to dekho, aise TheTha taka pakar3akara baiThe haiM aura vaise apAra hiMsA karate haiN| bar3e se bar3I hiMsA ho isa jagat meM to kaSAya kI (yAnI krodhamAna-mAyA-lobha kI) hai! koI kahegA ki bhAI, yaha jIva mAra rahA hai aura yaha kaSAya kara rahA hai to kise adhika pApa lagegA? to kaSAya itane adhika kImatI haiM ki jIva mAre usakI tulanA meM kaSAya meM adhika pApa hai| bAta ko samajho ve sabhI bAteM bhagavAna ne kahI hai na, ve Apako samajhAne ke lie kahA hai| Agraha pakar3ane nahIM haiN| Apa jitanA ho sake utanA krnaa| bhagavAna ne aisA nahIM kahA hai ki zakti se bAhara krnaa| jJAnI Agraha karavAe~ aise nahIM hote| ye dUsare to Agraha pakar3avAte haiN| jJAnI to kyA kahate the ki lAbhAlAbha kA vyApAra dekho! zarIra ko pyAz2a se paccIsa pratizata phAyadA huA aura pA~ca pratizata pyAz2a ke kAraNa nukasAna huA, yAnI mere ghara meM bIsa rahe haiN| isa prakAra karate the| jaba ki ina logoM ne lAbhAlAbha kA vyApAra ur3A diyA hai aura mAra-pITakara 'pyAz2a baMda kara. aura AlU baMda kara' kheNge| are, kisalie? Ala ke sAtha Apako baira hai? yA Apako pyAz2a ke sAtha baira hai? aura use to jo chor3A ho na, vahI yAda AyA karatA hai| bhagavAna ke jaisA, vahI yAda AyA karatA hai! 'hamane' bhI niyama pAle the jaba ki maiM to jaina nahIM thaa| maiM jainetara thaa| phira bhI mujhe yaha jJAna hone se pahale niraMtara kaMdamUla kA tyAga thA, hamezA coviyAra thA, hamezA garama pAnI (ubAlakara) pItA thaa| dUsare zahara jAU~ yA cAhe jahA~ jAU~ phira bhI ubalA huA paanii| hama aura hamAre hissedAra donoM ubale hue pAnI kI zIziyA~ sAtha meM rakhate the| yAnI hama to bhagavAna ke niyama meM rahate the| aba kisI ko yaha niyama saba muzkila lagate hoM, to aisA nahIM ahiMsA hai ki Apako saba pAlane hI caahie| maiM Apako aisA nahIM kahatA ki Apa aisA hI kro| Apase ho, to krnaa| yaha acchI cIz2a hai, hitakArI hai| bhagavAna ne to hitakArI samajhakara kahA hai, use pakar3akara rakhane ke lie nahIM kahA hai| usake AgrahI ho jAne ke lie nahIM kahA hai| hameM, jJAnI puruSa ko to tyAgAtyAga nahIM hotA hai| para ye kitane hI loga itane jyAdA dukhI hote haiM ki 'Apa coviyAra nahIM karate? hameM bahuta dukha hotA hai| maiMne kahA, 'coviyAra kruuNgaa|' kyA karU~ taba? vaha to jJAnI hone ke bAda to tyAgAtyAga saMbhave nhiiN| phira logoM ko samajha meM Ae vaisA smjheN| bAkI, hameM kisI cIz2a kI icchA hI nahIM na! hama to, hiMsA ke sAgara meM bhagavAna ne hameM ahiMsaka kahA hai bAkI, hama to pahale se hI hamezA coviyAra karate the| aba to hameM, yaha satsaMga rakhA ho na, isalie kisI dina coviyAra hotA hai aura do-cAra dina hamase coviyAra nahIM bhI hotA hai| parantu hamArA hetu coviyAra kA hai| vaha mukhya vastu hai| ubalA huA pAnI, pIne meM praznakartA : yaha pAnI ko ubAlakara pIne kA kahate haiM, vaha kisalie? dAdAzrI : ve kyA kahanA cAhate haiM? pAnI kI eka bUMda meM anaMta jIva haiN| isalie pAnI ko khUba ubAlo tAki ve jIva mara jAe~ aura phira vaha pAnI pIo to ApakA zarIra acchA rahegA aura taba AtmadhyAna rhegaa| taba usakA ye loga ulTA samajha baiThe haiN| bhagavAna ne to zarIra acchA rakhane ke lie saba prayoga batAe the| isalie ulTe pAnI ubAlakara pIne kA kahate haiN| pAnI nahIM ubAleM, use jIvahiMsA pAlI khlaaegaa| khuda kA zarIra bhale bigar3e para hameM pAnI ubAlanA nahIM hai| usake badale yaha to bhagavAna pAnI ubAlakara pIne kA kahate haiM, to ApakA zarIra acchA rhe| aura ATha ghaMToM bAda vApisa aMdara jIva par3a jAe~ge, isalie phira vaha mata piinaa| vApisa dUsarA ubAlakara pInA, aisA kahate haiN|
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________________ ahiMsA isalie yaha pAnI garama karanA vaha hiMsA ke kAraNa nahIM kahA hai, vaha zArIrika taMdurustI ke lie kahA hai| pAnI garama karane se jalakAya jIva khatma ho jAte haiN| para isake pApa ke lie nahIM kahA hai| Apake zarIra ko bahuta acchA rahe, peTa meM jIvANu na utpanna hoM aura jJAna ko AvaraNa na kareM, isalie kahA hai| pAnI garama kareM, taba bar3e jaMtu hote haiM, ve sabhI mara jAte haiN| praznakartA : to vaha hiMsA huI na? dAdAzrI : usa hiMsA kA harja nahIM hai| kyoMki zarIra taMdurusta ho to Apa dharma kara sakate haiN| aura vaise to sArI hiMsA hI hai, isa jagat ke aMdara kevala hiMsA hI hai| hiMsA ke bAhara eka akSara bhI nahIM hai| khAte ho, pIte ho, ve saba jIva hI haiN| aba bhagavAna ne to ekendriya jIva ke lie aisA jhaMjhaTa karane kA kahA hI nhiiN| yaha to saba ulTA samajha liyA hai| ekendriya jIva ke lie aisA kahA hotA na, to 'ThaMDA pAnI hI pInA. nahIM to pAnI ubAlane se saba jIva mara jAe~ge' aisA khte| pAnI garama karane meM kitane jIva mAre? praznakartA : anek| dAdAzrI : usameM jIva dikhate nahIM hai| para vaha pAnI hai na ve apakAya jIva haiN| unakI kAyA hI pAnI hai| unakA zarIra hI pAnI hai| bolo aba, taba aMdara jIva kahA~ baiThe hoMge? logoM ko ve kisa taraha mileM? yaha to zarIra dikhatA hai una saba jIvoM ke zarIra ikaTThe kareM, vahI pAnI hai, pAnIrUpI jinakA zarIra haiM, vaise jIva haiN| aba isakA pAra kahA~ Ae? harI sabjI meM samajhA ulTA praznakartA : barasAta meM harI sabjI nahIM khAnI cAhie aisA kahate haiM, vaha kisalie? dAdAzrI : harI sabjI meM loga ulTA samajhe haiN| harI sabjI yAnI ahiMsA vaha jIva kI hiMsA nahIM hai| harI sabjI para sUkSma jIva baiThate haiM aura ve jIva peTa meM jAe~ to roga hotA hai| zarIra ko nukasAna karate haiM, isalie phira dharma nahIM ho paataa| isake lie bhagavAna ne manA kiyA hai| hama kyA kahanA cAhate haiM ki aisA ulTA kyA samajhe? jo (davAI) cupar3ane kI thI vaha sArI pI gae aura pIne ko kahA thA vaha cupar3ate rahate haiM, isalie roga kama hotA dikhatA nahIM hai| enTIbAyoTiksa se honevAlI hiMsA praznakartA : buqhAra AyA, phusI huI-paka gayA, phira ye bhItara jIvANuoM ko mAra DAlane kI davAI dete haiM.... dAdAzrI : itanI jIvANu kI ciMtA karanI nahIM hai| praznakartA : peTa meM kRmi hue hoM aura use davAI nahIM deM, to vaha baccA mara jaaegaa| dAdAzrI : use davAI aisI pilA ki aMdara kRmi koI rahe hI nahIM, vaha karanA hI hai| praznakartA : aba AtmasAdhanA ke lie zarIra ko acchA rakhanA hai| aba use acchA rakhane meM yadi jIvoM kI hAni ho, to vaha karanA cAhie yA nahIM karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI: aisA hai na, AtmasAdhanA kisakA nAma kahalAtA hai? ki Apako zarIra kA dhyAna rakhanA hai, aisA yadi Apa bhAva karane jAoge to sAdhanA kama ho jaaegii| yadi pUrI sAdhanA karanI ho to zarIra kA Apako dhyAna nahIM rakhanA hai| zarIra to usakA saba lekara hI AyA hai| saba hI prakAra kI sa~bhAla lekara AyA huA hai| aura Apako usameM koI gaDabaDa karane kI z2arUrata nahIM hai| Apa AtmasAdhanA meM pUrI taraha laga jAo, haMDreDa prsentt| aura yaha dUsarA saba kampalITa hai| isalie maiM kahatA hU~ na, ki bhUtakAla bIta gayA, bhaviSyakAla 'vyavasthita' ke tAbe meM hai, isalie vartamAna meM brto|
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________________ ahiMsA 47 phira bhI hama kyA kahate haiM ki jisa deha se jJAnI puruSa ko pahacAne use mitra samAna maannaa| ye davAIyA~ hiMsaka hoM to ve bhI lenA, para zarIra ko sNbhaalnaa| kyoMki lAbhAlAbha kA vyApAra hai yh| yaha zarIra yadi do varSa adhika TikA, to isa deha se jJAnI puruSa ko pahacAnA hai, to do varSa meM kucha kA kucha kAma nikAla ddaaloge| aura eka tarapha hiMsA ke bAre meM nukasAna jAegA, to isake badale to bIsa gunA kamAI hai| to bIsa meM se unnIsa to apane ghara rhaa| yAnI lAbhAlAbha kA vyApAra hai| bAkI kevala jIvajaMtu hI hai| yaha jagat kevala jIva hI hai| ye zvAsa meM kitane jIva mara jAte haiM, to hameM kyA karanA cAhie? zvAsa lie binA baiThe rahanA cAhie? baiThe rahate to acchA thaa| unakA niber3A(!) A jaataa| bagaira kAma ke pAgalapana kiyA hai yaha to| aba ina sabakA koI aMta hI nahIM Ae aisA hai| isalie jo kacha karate ho na, vaha karate rhnaa| isameM koI bAla kI khAla nikAlane jaisA hai nhiiN| mAtra jo jIva hamase trasta hote haiM una jIvoM ko ho sake vahA~ taka parezAna mata krnaa| 48 ahiMsA nahIM hai| isalie mana meM aisA hotA hai ki yaha saba apane khAne ke lie hI hai| aba punarjanma ko samajheM taba to mana meM vicAra Ae ki apanA aisA janma ho jAe taba kyA ho? para unheM vaisA vicAra AtA nhiiN| apane hindustAna ke logoM ko vicAra AyA, tabhI ye brAhmaNa kahate haiM ki hamase mA~sAhAra nahIM chuA jA sktaa| vaizya kahate haiM ki, hamase mA~sAhAra nahIM chuA jA sktaa| zUdra kahate haiM, chU sakate haiN| para ve loga to marA huA jAnavara hotA hai na use bhI khAte haiN| aura ye kSatriya haiM, ve bhI mA~sAhAra karate haiN| cir3ha, mA~sAhArI para dAdAzrI : Apa vejiTeriyana pasaMda karate ho yA nonavejiTeriyana? praznakartA : maiMne abhI taka nonavejiTerina TesTa kiyA nahIM hai| dAdAzrI : para vaha acchI vastu hai, aisA bolA nahIM hai? praznakartA : naa| maiM vejiTeriyana khAtA huuN| para usakA artha aisA nahIM ki nonavejiTeriyana kharAba hai| dAdAzrI : ThIka hai| kharAba maiM use kahatA nahIM huuN| maiM plena meM A rahA thaa| merI sITa para maiM akelA hI thA, mere sAtha dUsarA koI thA hI nhiiN| eka bar3A musalamAna seTha hogA, vaha apanI sITa para se uThakara mere bagala meM A baiThA, maiM kucha bolA nhiiN| phira mujhe dhIre se kahatA hai, 'maiM musalamAna hU~ aura hama nonavejiTerina phUDa khAte haiN| to Apako usa para koI dukha nahIM hotA?' maiMne kahA, 'nA, naa| maiM Apake sAtha bhojana karane baiTha sakatA huuN| sirpha itanA hI ki maiM letA nhiiN| Apa jo kara rahe ho vaha vyAjabI hI kara rahe ho| hameM usase lenA-denA nahIM hai|' taba seTha kahate haiM, 'phira bhI hamAre Upara Apako abhAva to rahatA hI hai na?' maiMne kahA, 'nA, naa| vaha ApakI mAnyatA chor3a do| kyoMki Apako yaha chuTTI meM milA hai| ApakI madara ne bhI nonavejiTerina khAyA AhAra, DevalapamenTa ke AdhAra para faoNrenavAle kyA kahate haiM? 'bhagavAna ne yaha duniyA banAI isalie ina manuSyoM ko bnaayaa| aura dUsarA saba ye bakare-machaliyA~ hamAre khAne ke lie bhagavAna ne bnaae|' are, tumhAre khAne ke lie banAe, to ye billIkutte-bAgha ko kyoM nahIM khAte! khAne ke lie banAyA hotA to saba eka jaisA hI banAyA hotA na? bhagavAna aisA karate nahIM haiN| bhagavAna ne banAyA hotA to sabhI Apake lie khAne lAyaka cIjeM hI bnaate| para yaha to sAthasAtha aphIma banAte haiM yA nahIM banAte? aura kUca (eka prakAra kA jaMgalI paudhA) bhI hote haiM na? use bhI banAte haiM na? yadi bhagavAna banA rahe hote to saba kisalie banAe~? kRca aura una sabakI kyA jarUrata? manuSya ke sukha ke lie hI sabhI cIjeM banAte caina se! isalie ulTA jJAna jAna baiThe haiM ki bhagavAna ne bnaayaa| are ve faoNrenavAle to abhI punarjanma ko samajhate
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________________ ahiMsA 49 huA hai aura blaDa hI ApakA yaha nonavejiTeriyanavAlA hai| aba kevala harja kise hai? ki jisake blaDa meM nonavejiTeriyana na ho, jisakI mAtA ke dUdha meM nonavejiTeriyana na ho, use lene kI chUTa nahIM hai| aura Apa lete ho vaha phAyadevAlA - nukasAnadAyaka mAne binA lete ho| phAyadA yA nukasAnadAyaka jAnakara lete nhiiN|' isalie mA~sAhAra jo karate ho, una para cir3ha rakhane jaisA nahIM hai| yaha to apanI khAlI kalpanA hI hai| bAkI, jina logoM kA khuda kA khurAka hai, usakA hameM harja nahIM hai| khuda kATakara khAoge? praznakartA: para Aja to sosAiTI meM ghusa gayA hai isalie mA~sAhAra karate haiN| dAdAzrI : vaha saba zauka kahalAtA hai| apanI madara ke dUdha meM AyA huA ho, to Apako hamezA ke lie khAne meM harja nahIM hai| praznakartA: madara mA~sAhAra nahIM karatI ho to kyA karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : taba to phira Apase kisa taraha khAyA jAe? Apake blaDa meM nahIM AyA ho, vaha Apako pacegA kisa taraha? vaha Apako Aja pAcana ho gayA huA lagatA hai, para vaha to aMta meM nukasAna Akara khar3A rahatA hai| Aja Apako vaha patA nahIM cltaa| isalie na khAe~ to uttama hai| chUTe nahIM to 'galata hai, chUTa jAe to uttama hai' aisI bhAvanA rakhanI hai| bAkI, apanI ye gAyeM kabhI mA~sAhAra karatI nahIM haiM, ye ghor3e aura bhaiMse bhI karatI nahIM haiN| aura ve zauka bhI nahIM rkhte| bahuta bhUkhI ho, phira mA~sAhAra rakhe taba bhI nahIM krtiiN| itanA to jAnavaroM meM hotA hai| jaba ki abhI to isa hindustAna ke lar3ake aura jainoM ke lar3ake, jinake mA~-bApa mA~sAhAra nahIM karate, ve bhI mA~sAhAra karanA sIkha gae haiN| taba maiMne unase kahA ki 'Apako mA~sAhAra karanA ho to mujhe harja nahIM, para khuda kATakara khaao| murgI hotI hai vaha Apa khuda kATakara khaao|' are, khUna dekhane kI ahiMsA to zakti nahIM aura mA~sAhAra karatA hai| khUna dekheM to aise ghabarA jAe ! isalie bhAna nahIM ki kyA khA rahA hU~ yaha aura khUna dekhegA to usa ghar3I tujhe ka~paka~pI chUTa jaaegii| yaha to khUna dekhe na, usakA kAma hai| jo khUna meM khele hote haiM una kSatriyoM kA kAma hai| khUna dekhe to ghabarA jAtA hai yA nahIM? 50 praznakartA: ghabarAhaTa ho jAtI hai| dAdAzrI : to phira usase mA~sAhAra kiyA hI kaise jAe? koI kATe aura Apa khAo vaha miniMgalesa hai| Apa vaha murgA kaTa rahA ho, usa ghar3I usakI yadi ArtatA suno na, to sArI z2indagI taka vairAgya na jAe, itanI ArtatA hotI hai| maiMne khuda sunA huA hai| taba mujhe huA ki ohoho, kitanA dukha hotA hogA ? ! mahimA, sAtvika AhAra kI praznakartA bhagavAna kI bhakti meM zAkAhArI logoM ko aura mA~sAhArI logoM ko koI rukAvaTa A sakatI hai? usameM ApakA kyA maMtavya hai ? dAdAzrI : aisA hai na, mA~sAhArI kaisA honA cAhie? usakI madara ke dUdha meM mA~sAhAra kA dUdha honA caahie| aise mA~sAhArI ko bhagavAna kI bhakti meM rukAvaTa nahIM aatii| usakI madara kA dUdha mA~sAhArI na ho aura phira mA~sAhArI bana gayA use rukAvaTa hai| bAkI, bhakti ke lie zAkAhArI aura mA~sAhArI meM rukAvaTa bilakula nahIM hai| praznakartA: to zuddha aura sAtvika AhAra binA bhakti ke ho sakatA hai yA nahIM hotA? dAdAzrI : nahIM ho sktaa| para isa kAla meM to aba kyA ho? zuddha sAtvika AhAra, vaha hameM prApta honA, yA vaha honA bahuta muzkila vastu hai aura manuSya aise kAla meM phisala na jAe, kaliyuga chue nahIM, aise manuSya bahuta kama hote haiN| aura na ho to dostI paiTha jAtI hai yA koI aisA mila
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________________ ahiMsA 52 jAtA hai na, vaha use ulTe raste car3hA detA hai| kusaMga paiTha jAtA hai| praznakartA : anajAne meM aghaTita bhojana liyA ho to phira usakA koI asara par3atA hai kyA? dAdAzrI : sabakA anajAne meM hI ho rahA hai| phira bhI usakA asara hotA hai| jaise anajAne meM apanA hAtha aMgAroM para par3e to? choTe bacce ko bhI nahIM jalAtA? choTe baccA bhI jala jAtA hai| vaise hI yaha sArA jagat anajAne yA jAna-bUjhakara sabako eka-sA phala detA hai| sirpha bhogane kA tarIkA alaga hai| anajAnavAle ko anajAne meM bhugatA jAtA hai aura jAnanevAlA samajha-samajhakara bhugatatA hai, itanA hI pharka hai| praznakartA : anna kA asara mana para par3atA hai, vaha bhI nizcita hai? dAdAzrI : sabakucha isa khurAka kA hI asara hai| yaha khurAka khAte haiM, taba peTa ke aMdara usakI brAnDI bana jAtI hai aura brAnDI se sArA dina abhAnAvasthA meM tanmayAkAra rahatA hai| taba yaha sAtvika bhojana hai na, usakI bhI, para brAnDI nahIM jaisI banatI hai| aura dUsarI boTala kI brAnDI pItA hai taba bhAna hI nahIM AtA, aisA hai| vaise hI yaha bhojana aMdara jAtA hai, usakI saba brAnDI hI bana jAtI hai| ye laDDU haiM, sardiyoM meM vasANA (sadiyoM me banAI jAnevAlI vizeSa miThAI) kahate haiM, vaha saba nahIM hai sAtvika ! sAtvika matalaba khUba halkA phUDa aura laDDU to kaifa bar3hAnevAlA hai| parantu loga bhI acchA lagatA ho vaha svIkAra lete haiM, sahUliyatavAlA kara dete haiN| praznakartA : isa mA~sAhAra kA AdhyAtmika vicAroM meM koI asara hotA hai kyA? dAdAzrI : avshy| mA~sAhAra, vaha sthUla bhojana hai, isalie AdhyAtmika kI buddhi utpanna nahIM hotI hai| adhyAtma meM jAnA ho to lAiTa phUDa cAhie ki jisase mada car3he nahIM aura jAgRti rhe| bAkI, ina logoM ko jAgati hai hI kahA~? ahiMsA haiM, 'oho! yaha to bahuta vicAra karane jaisI bAta hai| para hamAre mAnane meM nahIM aatii|' taba maiMne kahA, 'abhI bahuta TAima lgegaa| bahuta sArI murgiyA~ khA gae ho isalie TAima lgegaa| vaha to dAla-cAvala caahieNge| pyora vejiTeriyana kI z2arUrata hai|' vejiTeriyana phUDa hotA hai usakA AvaraNa patalA hotA hai, isalie vaha jJAna ko samajha sakatA hai, saba ArapAra dekha sakatA hai aura vo mA~sAhArI ko moTA AvaraNa hotA hai| kyA mA~sAhAra se narkagati? praznakartA : kahA jAtA hai ki mA~sAhAra karane se narkagati hotI hai| dAdAzrI : vaha bAta bilakula saccI hai aura khAne kI kAphI kucha cIjeM haiN| kisalie bakare ko kATate ho? murgI ko kATakara khAte haiM to use trAsa nahIM hotA hogA? usake mA~-bApa ko trAsa nahIM hotA hogA? Apake bacce ko khA jAe to kyA hogA? yaha mA~sAhAra, yaha soce binA kA hai saaraa| nirI pAzavatA hai saarii| avicAra dazA hai aura hama to vicArazIla haiN| eka hI dina mA~sAhAra khAne se to manuSya kA dimAg2a khatama ho jAtA hai, pazu jaisA ho jAtA hai| isalie dimAg2a yadi acchA rakhanA ho, to aMDe khAnA taka bhI baMda kara denA caahie| aMDe se nIce kI sArI pAzavatA hI hai| ye mA~sAhAra meM usa jIva ko mArane kA doSa hai na, usase to aMdara AvaraNa kA doSa adhika lagatA hai| mArane ke doSa kA to gunAha ThIka hai, vaha to| vaha gunAha kisa taraha hotA hai? mUla vyApAra karatA hai usameM ba~Ta jAtA hai| khAnevAle ke hisse meM to kucha hI doSa jAtA hai| para yaha to khuda ko aMdara AvaraNa karatA hai, isalie merI bAta use samajhane meM bahuta bar3A AvaraNa lAtA hai| ye vyavahAra kI bAta kucha loga spIDilI samajha jAte haiM, vaha grAspiMga pAvara kahalAtA hai| hisAba ke anusAra gati praznakartA : para aisA hotA hai ki hiMsaka vyakti ahiMsaka yoni ve faoNrena ke sAinTisTa apanI bAta nahIM smjheNge| ve sAinTisTa kahate
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________________ ahiMsA 54 ahiMsA dUsare koI kATa khAte haiN| kudarata ke ghara taiyAra sAmAna hotA hai, saba jagaha bombArDiMga karane ke lie| Apane jo karma bAMdhe haiM, ve karma cukAne ke lie usake pAsa sabhI sAdhana taiyAra haiN| isalie yadi Apako isa jagat meM ina dukhoM meM se mukta honA ho to koI Apako dukha de para Apako sAmane dukha nahIM denA caahie| nahIM to thor3A bhI dukha doge to agale janma meM vaha sA~pina hokara kATegI, sAre haz2AroM taraha se baira basUle binA rahegI nhiiN| isa duniyA meM thor3A bhI baira bar3hAne jaisA nahIM hai| phira yaha duHkha Ate haiM, vaha saba upAdhi karI kisI ko dukha die usake hI dukha Ate haiM na! nahIM to dukha hotA hI nahIM duniyA meN| meM jAe yA phira ahiMsaka vyakti hiMsaka kI yoni meM jAe? dAdAzrI : hA~, khuzI se jAte haiN| yahA~ ahiMsaka ho aura dUsare bhava meM hiMsaka ho jaae| kyoMki use vahA~ usake mA~-bApa hiMsaka mile| isalie phira AsapAsa ke saMyoga mile, usase vaisA ho gyaa| praznakartA : usakA kAraNa kyA hai? dAdAzrI : aisA hai, ahiMsaka hotA hai na, vaha jAnavara meM jAe to gAya meM jAtA hai, bhaiMsa meM jAtA hai| hiMsAvAlA yahA~ se bAgha meM jAtA hai, kutte meM jAtA hai, billI meM jAtA hai, jahA~ hiMsaka jAnavara hoM vahA~ jAtA hai| parantu manuSya meM ahiMsaka ho na taba bhI hiMsaka ke vahA~ janma letA hai| phira usake vApisa hiMsaka ke saMskAra par3ate haiN| vaha bhI RNAnabaMdha haiM na! hisAba hai na! rAga-dveSa hote haiM, vahI RnnaanubNdh| jisake sAtha rAga huA taba phira cipkaa| usa para dveSa kareM taba bhI cipakatA hai| dveSa kareM ki yaha nAlAyaka hai, badamAza hai, aisA hai, vaisA hai, to vahA~ hI janma hotA hai| na chue kucha ahiMsaka ko praznakartA : yaha kuttA kATe usameM kauna-sA RNAnubaMdha hogA? dAdAzrI : RNAnubaMdha ke binA to eka rAI kA dAnA Apake mu~ha meM nahIM jAtA, bAhara hI gira jAtA hai| praznakartA : yadi kuttA hameM kATatA hai to hamane kyA usake sAtha karma bAMdhA huA hogA? dAdAzrI : nA, vaisA usake sAtha karma bA~dhA nahIM hotA hai| para yaha to hamAre vahA~ manuSya hokara bhI kATate nahIM hai? aisA bhI loga bolate haiM na, ki muA ye mujhe kATane daur3atA hai! eka vyakti to mujhe kahatA hai ki merI patnI to sA~pina hI dekha lo| rAta ko kATatI hai| aba vaha asala meM kATatI nahIM hai| parantu aisA kucha bolate haiM, ki vaha hameM kATane jaisA lagatA hai| aba aisA bolA na, usake phalasvarUpa ye kutte kATa khAte haiM, praznakartA : yAnI, yaha jIvana to eka zAzvata saMgharSa hI hai| dAdAzrI : hA~, para yadi Apa ahiMsaka vAtAvaraNa rakhoge to sA~pa bhI Apako kATegA nhiiN| sAmanevAlA Apa para sA~pa bhI DAle taba bhI vaha kATegA nahIM, bhAga jAegA becaaraa| bAgha bhI ApakI tarapha nahIM dekhegaa| isa ahiMsA kA itanA adhika bala hai ki bAta na pUcho! ahiMsA jaisA koI bala nahIM aura ahiMsA jaisI nirbalatA nhiiN| yaha to saba hiMsA ke kAraNa dukha haiM, nirI hiMsA se hI dukha hai| bAkI, isa duniyA meM koI cIz2a Apako kATa sake aisA hai hI nhiiN| aura jo kATa sakate haiM, vahI ApakA hisAba hai| isalie hisAba cukatA kara denaa| aura kATa gayA phira Apa mana meM jo bhAva karate ho ki 'isa kutte ko to mAra hI DAlanA cAhie. aisA karanA cAhie, vaisA karanA caahie|' taba vaha phira nayA hisAba zurU kiyaa| cAhe jaisI paristhiti meM samatA rakhakara hala lAo, aMdara thor3A bhI viSama nahIM ho! praznakartA : parantu usa avasthA meM to jAgRti-samatA rahatI nahIM hai| dAdAzrI : yaha saMsAra pAra karanA bahuta muzkila hai, isalie yaha akrama vijJAna dete haiN|
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________________ ahiMsA ahiMsA yAnI manuSya akele hI phalAhArI haiM aisA nahIM hai| parantu apanI gAyeMbhaiMse, gadhe sabhI phalAhArI haiN| vaha koI aisI-vaisI bAta hai? ye gadhe bahuta bhUkhe ho gae hoM aura mA~sAhAra DAleM to nahIM chuute| isalie hameM ahaMkAra bhI karane jaisA nahIM ki, 'bhAI, hama pyora vejiTeriyana haiN|' are nahIM, pyora vejiTeriyana to yaha gAya-bhaiMse haiM, usameM tUne kyA kiyA dUsarA? ye pyoravAle to kisI dina aMDA bhI khA Ate haiN| jaba ki ve to kucha bhI nhiiN| 'hama pyora, pyora, pyora' karane jaisA bhI nahIM aura jo karate haiM unakI TIkA karane jaisA hai nhiiN| gunahagAra, kasAI yA khAnevAlA? praznakartA : eka kasAI ho, vaha 'dAdA' ke pAsa jJAna lene aayaa| 'dAdA' ne jJAna diyaa| usakA vyApAra cAlU hI hai aura cAlU hI rakhanA hai, to usakI dazA kyA hogI? dAdAzrI : para kasAI kI dazA kyA burI hai? kasAI ne kyA gunAha kiyA hai? kasAI ko to Apa pUcho to sahI ki, 'bhAI tU kyoM aisA kAma karatA hai?' taba vaha kahegA ki, 'bhAI, mere bApa-dAdA karate the, isalie maiM karatA huuN| mere peTa ke lie, mere baccoM ke poSaNa ke lie karatA huuN|' hama pUche, 'para tujhe isakA zauka hai?' taba vaha kahatA hai, 'nA, mujhe zauka nhiiN|' yAnI isa kasAI se to mA~sAhAra khAnevAle ko adhika pApa lagatA hai| kasAI ke lie to usakA kAma hI hai becAre kaa| use maiM jJAna huuN| yahA~ mere pAsa AyA ho to maiM jJAna duuN| vaha jJAna le jAe taba bhI koI harja nhiiN| bhagavAna ke vahA~ isameM harja nhiiN| kabUtara, zuddha zAkAhArI apane yahA~ kabUtarakhAne, yahA~ hindustAna meM hote haiM para kauAkhAne nahIM rakhe? kyoM totAkhAnA, ciDiyAkhAnA aisA nahIM rakhate aura kabUtarakhAnA hI rakhate haiM? koI kAraNa to hogA na? kyoMki yaha kabUtara akelA hI bilakula vejiTeriyana hai, nonaveja ko chUtA hI nhiiN| taba apane loga samajhe ki barasAta ke dinoM meM yaha becArA kyA khAegA? isalie apane yahA~ kabUtarakhAne banAe aura vahA~ phira jvAra DAla Ate haiN| aba aMdara sar3A huA dAnA ho to vaha chUtA nahIM hai| usake aMdara jIvajaMtu hai isalie chUtA nhiiN| bilakula ahiMsaka! ina manuSyoM ne bAunDrI chor3I para ye kabUtara bAunDrI nahIM chodd'te| kabUtara bhI pyora vejiTeriyana haiN| isalie khoja kI ki usakA blaDa kaisA hai? bahuta hI grm| sabase adhika garama blaDa usakA hai aura usameM samajha bhI bahuta hotI hai| kyoMki vaha vejiTeriyana, pyora vejiTeriyana hai| aMDe khAe jA sakate haiM? praznakartA : kucha loga to aisI dalIla karate haiM ki aMDe do prakAra ke hote haiM, eka jIvavAle aura dUsare nirjiiv| to ve khAe jA sakate haiM yA nahIM? dAdAzrI : faoNrena meM ve loga dalIla kara rahe the ki ahiMsaka aMDe haiM! taba maiMne kahA, isa jagat meM jIva binA kA kucha khAyA hI nahIM jA sktaa| nirjIva vastu hai na, vaha khAyI hI nahIM jA sktii| aMDe meM yadi jIva nahIM ho to aMDA khAyA nahIM jA sakatA, vaha jar3a vastu ho gii| kyoMki jIva nahIM ho vaha jar3a vastu ho gii| hameM jIva ko khAnA ho na to use aise kATakara aura do-tIna dinoM taka bigar3a nahIM jAe taba taka hI khAyA jA sakatA hai| yaha sabjI-bhAjI tor3ane ke bAda kucha samaya taka hI khAyI jA sakatI hai| phira vaha khatma ho jAtI hai| yAnI jIvita vastu ko khA sakate haiN| isalie aMDA yadi nirjIva ho to khA nahIM sakate, sajIva ho tabhI khAyA jA sakatA hai| isalie ye loga yadi aMDe ko sajIva nahIM kahate hoM to ve bAteM saba hambaga haiN| taba kisalie logoM ko pha~sAte ho aisA? una dUsare prakAra ke aMDevAloM ne isa jagata meM usa aMDe ko kisa rUpa meM rakhA hai vahI Azcarya hai| dUsare prakAra ke aMDevAlo ko pUchA ki yaha dUsarI prakAra kA jIva nirjIva hai yA sajIva hai, vaha mujhe btaao| nirjIva ho to khAyA nahIM jA sktaa| sArI duniyA ko mUrkha banAyA, Apa loga
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________________ ahiMsA 57 kisa taraha ke ho phira? jIva na ho vaha khAyA nahIM jA sakatA hamase, vaha akhAdya mAnA jAtA hai| praznakartA: para yaha vejiTeriyana aMDA phalatA nahIM hai| dAdAzrI : vaha phalatA nahIM hai, vaha DipharenTa meTara hai| para yaha jIvita hai / yAnI aisA saba ThasA diyA hai, to ina jainoM ke baccoM ko kitanI muzkila ! usa para to sabhI bacce mere sAtha jhagar3e the| phira maiMne unheM samajhAyA ki 'bhAI, aise z2arA vicAra to kro| nirjIva ho to harja hI nahIM, para nirjIva to khAyA hI nahIM jA sktaa|' phira maiMne kahA, 'nahIM to phira bahuta yadi akkalamaMda hooge to Apase anAja koI bhI khAyA nahIM jaaegaa| Apa nirjIva cIz2a khaao|' taba nirjIva cIz2a to isa zarIra ko kAma lagatI nahIM, usameM viTAmina nahIM hote| nirjIva jo cIjeM haiM ve zarIra kI bhUkha miTAtI z2arUra haiM, para unameM viTAmina nahIM hote| isalie zarIra jItA nahIM hai| z2arurI viTAmina nahIM milate na ! isalie nirjIva vastu to cale hI nhiiN| taba una baccoM ne svIkAra kiyA ki Aja se ve aMDe hama nahIM khaaeNge| samajhAe~ to loga samajhane ko taiyAra haiM aura nahIM to ina logoM ne to aisA ghusA diyA hai ki buddhi phira jaae| ye saba gehU~ aura cAvala aura ye saba khAte haiM, itanI bar3I-bar3I laukiyA~ khA jAte haiM, ve saba jIva hI haiM na ! nahIM haiM jIva? parantu bhagavAna ne khAne kI bAunDrI dI hai ki ye jIva haiM, ve khAnA / parantu jo jIva Apase trAsa pAte ho unheM mAro nahIM, unheM khAo nahIM, unheM kucha bhI mata kro| praznakartA: ye aMDe, ve trAsa pAte nahIM haiM, to unheM khAnA acchA hai yA nahIM? dAdAzrI : aMDe trAsa pAte nahIM haiM parantu aMDe meM aMdara jo jIva rahA haina, vaha bebhAna avasthA meM hai| para vaha phUTe taba hameM patA calatA hai yA nahIM? 58 ahiMsA praznakartA : turanta patA calatA hai| para aMDA hilatA DulatA to nahIM na! taba ? dAdAzrI : vaha nahIM hotaa| kyoMki vahA~ bebhAna avasthA meM hai / isalie hotA nhiiN| vaha to manuSyoM kA bhI garbha cAra-pA~ca mahIne kA ho, vaha aMDe kI taraha hI hotA hai| isalie use mAranA nahIM caahie| usameM se phUTatA hai to kyA hotA hai, vaha hama manuSya samajha sakate haiN| dUdha liyA jA sakatA hai? praznakartA: jisa taraha vejiTeriyana aMDA nahIM khAyA jA sakatA, usI taraha gAya kA dUdha bhI nahIM pIyA jA sktaa| dAdAzrI : aMDA nahIM khAyA jA sakatA, para gAya kA dUdha acchI taraha liyA jA sakatA hai| gAya ke dUdha kA dahI khAyA jA sakatA hai, kucha vyaktiyoM se makkhana bhI khAyA jA sakatA hai| nahIM khAyA jA sake aisA kucha nhiiN| bhagavAna ne kisalie makkhana nahIM khAne kA kahA thA? vaha alaga vastu hai / vaha bhI kucha hI vyaktiyoM ke lie nA kahA hai| gAya ke dUdha kI khIra banAkara khAnA caina se usakI bAsuMdI banAo na, taba bhI harja nhiiN| kisI zAstra ne Apati uThAI ho to maiM Apako kahU~gA ki Apatti nahIM uThAI hai jAo, vaha zAstra galata hai| phira bhI aisA kahate haiM ki jyAdA khAegA to becainI hogii| vaha Apako dekhanA hai| bAkI limiTa meM khAnA / praznakartA : parantu dUdha to bachar3e ke lie kudarata ne diyA hai| hamAre lie nahIM diyaa| dAdAzrI : bAta hI galata hai| vaha to jaMgalI gAyeM aura jaMgalI bhaiMseM thIM na, unakA bachar3e pIe to sArA dUdha pI jaae| aura apane yahA~ to apane loga gAya ko khilAkara pAlate poSate haiN| isalie bachar3e ko dUdha pilAnA bhI hai aura hama sabako dUdha lenA bhI hai| aura vaha Adi-anAdi se aisA vyavahAra cAlU hai| aura gAya ko adhika poSaNa dete haiM na, to gAya to paMdrahapaMdraha liTara dUdha detI hai| kyoMki use jitanA acchA khilAte -pilAte haiM,
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________________ ahiMsA hI rahatI hai| mu~ha kholakara bar3I machaliyA~ baiThI rahatI haiN| taba choTI machaliyA~ usake peTa ke aMdara hI ghusa jAtI haiN| hai koI parezAnI? phira mu~ha baMdha kara de to saba khatama! para Apa usake lie jimmedAra nahIM haiN| yAnI vaha to duniyA kA kAnUna hI hai| hama manA kareM, aura ve sAre bakaroM ko khA jaaeN| bar3e jIva choTe jIva ko khAte haiM, choTA usase choTe ko khAtA rahatA hai, usase choTA usase choTe ko khAtA rahatA hai| aise karate-karate pUre samudra kA sArA jagat cala rahA hai| jaba taka manuSya janma kA viveka nahIM AtA taba taka sArI chUTa hai| aba vahA~ para koI bacAne jAtA nahIM aura hama yahA~ para logoM ko bacAne jAte haiN| saMpUrNa ahiMsaka ko nahIM koI A~ca praznakartA : parantu ye goliyA~ calAte haiM ahiMsaka logoM pr| ahiMsA utanA usakA dUdha normala cAhie, usase kaI adhika hotA hai| isa prakAra se lenA cAhie aura bacce ko bhUkhA mAranA nhiiN| cakravartI rAjA to haz2Ara-haz2Ara, do-do haz2Ara gAya rakhate the| use gozAlA kahate the| cakravartI rAjA dUdha kaisA pIte hoMge? ki haz2Ara gAyeM hoM gozAlA meM una haz2Ara gAyoM kA dUdha nikAlate, vaha sau gAyoM ko pilA dete| una sau gAyoM kA dUdha nikAlakara dasa gAyoM ko pilA dete| una dasa gAyoM kA dUdha nikAlanA aura vaha eka gAya ko pilA dete usakA dUdha cakravartI rAjA pIte the| hiMsaka prANI kI hiMsA meM hiMsA? praznakartA : kisI bhI prANI ko mAranA vaha hiMsA hai| parantu hiMsaka prANI ki jo dUsare prANI yA manuSya para hiMsA kara sakatA hai athavA jAnahAni kara sakatA hai, to usakI hiMsA karanI cAhie yA nahIM? dAdAzrI : kisI kI hiMsA karanI nahIM hai aisA bhAva rkhnaa| aura Apa sA~pa ko nahIM mAro to dUsarA koI mAranevAlA mila aaegaa| isalie ApameM sA~pa mArane kI zakti nahIM ho, to yahA~ to mAranevAle saba bahuta haiM, apAra haiM aura mAranevAlI anya jAtiyA~ bhI bahuta hI haiN| isalie Apa apane Apa ApakA svabhAva bigAr3anA nhiiN| isalie hiMsA karane meM phAyadA nahIM hai| hiMsA khuda ko hI nukasAna karatI hai| jIvo jIvasya bhojanam praznakartA : manuSya buddhijIvI prANI hai to use pazuhiMsA nahIM karanI caahie| parantu eka prANI dUsare prANI ko khAkara jI sakatA ho to usa manuSya aura prANI ke bIca ke buddhi ke pharka ke kAraNa aisA bhedabhAva hai? prANI aura prANI ke bIca kI hiMsA kA kyA? dAdAzrI: prANI aura prANI ke bIca kI hiMsA meM yU Ara noTa risponsibala eTa ol| kyoMki isa samudra ke aMdara koI kheta nahIM hote yA kaMTrola ke anAja kI dukAneM nahIM hotii| isalie vahA~ to hiMsA calatI dAdAzrI: ahiMsaka logoM para goliyA~ calatI bhI nhiiN| aisA kisI ko karanA ho taba bhI hotA nhiiN| ahiMsaka jo haiM na. unheM sau tarapha se goliyA~ lekara ghera leM na, taba bhI use golI chue nhiiN| yaha to hiMsakoM ko hI goliyA~ chUtI haiN| usakA svabhAva hai, hara eka vastu kaa| abhI kevala ahiMsA karane meM Ae na to isa saMsAra meM lUTa leN| eka kSaNa bhI yadi chUTa dI jAe na to, yahA~ baiThane bhI na de| kyoMki eka to kaliyuga hai, logoM ke mana bigar3e hue haiN| taraha-taraha ke vyasanI ho gae haiN| isalie kyA nahIM kareMge vahA~? yAnI ye goliyA~ eka tarapha hoM to eka tarapha ahiMsA raha sakatI hai, nahIM to ahiMsA kA muzkila se pAlana karavAnA par3atA hai| yadyapi aba yaha kAla badala rahA hai ise! aba kAla badala rahA hai yaha saba, aura bahuta acchA kAla dekhoge aap| Apa apane Apa khuda dekhoge saaraa| praznakartA : eka saMta ahiMsA pAlate the taba bhI unakA khUna kyoM huA? kyoMki abhI Apane kahA ki ahiMsA para golI nahIM lgtii|
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________________ ahiMsA ahiMsA dAdAzrI : ahiMsaka kise kahate haiM? ki kisI kI kisI bhI cIz2a meM hAtha DAle nahIM, vaha ahiNsk| eka ko kahegA ki ise adhika do, kyoMki dIna-hIna hai| bhale dIna-hIna ho, phira bhI use adhika do| isalie isa tarapha ke pakSavAle ko burA lagatA hai| isalie use rIsa car3hatI hai| vaha hiMsA kahalAtI hai| usameM par3anA hI nhiiN| aisA nyAya hI nahIM karanA caahie| ahiMsaka jo hai ve nyAya hI nahIM krte| nyAya karate haiM, vahA~ hiMsA hai| karanI cAhie, aisI bhAvanA hameM vikasita karanI cAhie aura apane abhiprAya dUsaroM ko samajhAne caahie| jitanA apane se ho sake utanA karanA caahie| usake lie koI dUsare ke sAtha lar3a marane kI z2arUrata nahIM hai| koI kahe ki, 'hamAre dharma meM kahA hai ki hameM mA~sAhAra karanA hai|' apane dharma ne manA kiyA ho, usa kAraNa se jhagar3A karane kI z2arUrata nahIM hai| hameM bhAvanA vikasita karake taiyAra rakhanI, phira jaisA bhAvanA meM hogA vaisI saMskRti clegii| aura vizva samaSTi kA kalyANa karane kI bhAvanA, vaha to Apako sAre dina, rAta-dina rahatI hai na?! hA~, to usa anusAra rahanA caahie| bAkI, vaha to jo yadi Apa saMpUrNa ahiMsA pAlo to Apa para koI golI chor3a sake aisA nahIM hai| aba saMpUrNa ahiMsA matalaba kyA? pakSapAtavAlA eka zabda mu~ha se bolanA bhI nahIM cAhie aura bolo to amuka hI zabda bolane caahie| dUsare zabda nahIM bolane caahie| kinhIM do pArTiyoM ke bIca meM par3anA nahIM caahie| do pArTiyoM ke bIca par3eM to eka kI hiMsA hotI hai thor3I-bahuta! jIvoM kI bali praznakartA : kucha maMdira meM jIvoM kI bali dI jAtI hai, vaha pApa hai yA puNya hai? dAdAzrI : usa bali car3hAnevAle ko hama pUche ki tU kyA mAnatA hai isameM? taba vaha kahatA hai, 'maiM puNya karatA huuN|' bakare se pUche ki tU kyA mAnatA hai? taba vaha kahatA hai, 'yaha khanI vyakti hai|' una devatA ko pUche to ve kahate haiM, 've dharate haiM to hamase nA nahIM kahA jA sktaa| maiM to kucha letA nhiiN| ye loga pairoM se chuAkara le jAte haiN| isalie pApapuNya kI bAta to jAne do| bAkI, yaha jo kucha karate ho, vaha saba khuda kI jokhimadArI hai| isalie samajhakara krnaa| phira cAhe jo car3hAo, kauna manA karatA hai Apako? parantu caDhAte samaya khyAla meM rakhanA ki hola enDa sola risponsibiliTI apanI hI hai, dUsare kisI kI nhiiN| ahiMsA kI anumodanA, bhAvanA-prArthanA se aba ina gUMge prANIyoM kI hiMsA nahIM karanI cAhie, gau hatyA nahIM praznakartA : usa bAre meM hama prArthanA to kara sakate haiM na? dAdAzrI : hA~, hA~, prArthanA karanI, aisI bhAvanA karanI, usakI anumodanA karanI caahie| koI vyakti yadi nahIM samajhatA ho to hameM use samajhAnA caahie| bAkI yaha hiMsA to Aja se nahIM. vaha to pahale se cAla hI hai| yaha jagat eka raMga kA nahIM hai| aba mahAna saMta tulasIdAsa the na, to unhoMne kabIrasAhaba kI khyAti bahuta sunI thii| mahAna saMta ke rUpa meM khyAti phailI huI thI isalie tulasIdAsa ne nizcita kiyA ki mujhe unake darzana karane jAnA caahie| isalie tulasIdAsa vahA~ se phira dillI aae| phira vahA~ para kisI se pUchA ki bhAI, kabIrasAhaba kA ghara kahA~ para hai? taba kahe, 'kabIrasAhaba to vo bunakara hai unakI bAta kara rahe ho?' unhoMne kahA, 'haaN|' taba usane kahA, 'vaha to vahA~ jhoMpar3I banAI hai, vahA~ se kasAIbAr3e meM hokara jaao|' taba phira tulasIdAsa brAhmaNa cokkhe vyakti, ve kasAIbADe meM ge| isa tarapha ba~dhA huA thA bakarA, isa tarapha muragA ba~dhA haA thaa| ve muzkila meM paDa ge| ve isa tarapha aise dekheM aura phira aise thuukeN| aise karate-karate vahA~ phuNce| to muzkila nahIM par3e! ye tulasIdAsa prekTisa meM nahIM lAe the kyoMki hamezA hara eka vastu prekTisa meM lAnI caahie| isalie yaha pha~sAva huA, taba phira tulasIdAsa to vahA~ jAkara ghara meM baitthe| taba kahate haiM ki
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________________ ahiMsA ahiMsA kabIrasAhaba to aMdara rasoI meM gae haiN| eka-do bhakta baiThe hoMge to unhoMne kahA ki baiThie saahb| unheM baiThAyA cAra pAI pr| phira kabIrasAhaba aae| kahate haiM, 'hama satsaMga karate haiN|' parantu pahale vaha mana meM thA, isalie tulasIdAsa bola uThe ki, 'Apa itane bar3e sNt| pUre hindustAna meM ApakI khyAti hai aura yahA~ kasAIbADe meM kahA~ rahate ho?' aba ye to hAz2ira jvaab| unheM dohA banAnA nahIM par3atA thaa| ve boleM vahI dohaa| ve bola uThe, 'kabIra kA ghara bAz2Ara meM, galakaTiyoM ke paas|' galakaTiyo matalaba galA kATanevAle kasAI ke naz2adIka meM hamArA ghara hai| phira kahate haiM, 'karegA so pAvegA, tU kyoM hove udAsa?' yaha jo karegA, vaha usakA phala bhogegaa| tU kisalie udAsa hotA hai phira?! taba tulasIdAsa samajha gae ki merI sArI bhakti ko bekAra kara diyA, AbarU le lii| isa taraha AbarU na jAe vaise rahanA caahie| hameM bhAvanA acchI rakhanI caahie| isa kAla meM nahIM, anAdikAla se aisA kA aisA calatA hI AyA hai| rAmacaMdrajI ke naukara bhI mA~sAhAra karate the| kyoMki kSatriya mA~sAhAra ke binA rahate hoMge kyA? ___hameM bhAvanA acchI rakhanI caahie| isa hullar3a meM par3anA nahIM, isa Tole meN| kyoMki ye loga nAsamajhI se jhagar3e khar3e karate haiN| usase kucha badalatA nahIM aura nukasAna hotA hai| usakA artha kyA hai? vaha kaba? ki bhAI apanA hI rAjA ho taba adhikAra calAe ki 'bhAI, heya Apako kucha khAsa dinoM meM nahIM karanA hai|' abhI apane hAtha meM sattA nahIM hai aura aisI akkalamaMdI karane kA kisane kahA hai? Apa apanA kAma karo na ! bhagavAna ke ghara koI maratA hI nhiiN| Apa apanA kAma kara lo aura anumodanA rkho| koI kharAba bhAva nahIM rkhnaa| sabase bar3A ahiMsaka kauna? parantu ina jIvoM ko bacAne ke badale eka hI vastu rakhanI hai ki kisI jIva ko kiMcit mAtra dukha na ho| phira mana se bhI dukha na ho, vANI se bhI dukha na ho aura vartana se bhI dukha na ho! basa, usake jaisA bar3A 64 ahiMsaka koI hai nhiiN| aisA bhAva ho, itanI jAgRti hone ke bAvajUda deha se yadi jIvajaMtu kucala jAe~, vaha 'vyavasthita'! aura nayI bacAne kI bAte kisI kI karanI nhiiN| abhayadAna, kauna-se jIvoM ke lie? praznakartA : maiM to bAta karatA hU~ ki taba dasa varSa pahale se, jIvoM ko yadi abhayadAna milatA ho to kaMdamUla kI turanta hI bAdhA le lI thI hmne| dAdAzrI : abhayadAna to, vaha jIva cala-phira sakatA ho aisA ho, vaha jIva ghabarAtA ho, bhaya ko samajhatA ho, use abhayadAna denA hai| bhaya se trasta hotA ho, use abhayadAna denA hai| dUsare loga bhaya ko samajhate nahIM, unheM abhayadAna kaise hoMge? abhayadAna yAnI jo jIva bhayabhIta hote haiM aise haiM, choTI cIMTI bhI hama hAtha lagAe~ na to vaha bhayabhIta hotI hai| use abhayadAna do| para yaha gehU~ kA dAnA, bAjare kA dAnA, vaha bhayabhIta nahIM hotA hai| use kyA nirbhaya banAnA? bhaya samajhate hI nahIM, abhayadAna kisa taraha denA phira? praznakartA : ekadama karekTa bAta hai| dAdAzrI : isalie yaha samajhe binA saba calA hai| ve ye cupar3ane kI pI jAte haiN| phira kaheMge, 'bhagavAna mahAvIra kI davAI pI gayA aura mara gayA!''are, mahAvIra bhagavAna kA phajItA kisalie karatA hai?' abhI yahI vyApAra cAlU hai| cupar3ane kI pI jAe~ge aura phira kaheMge dharma galata hai| mue, dharma to galata hoto hogA? pahale cupar3ane kI davAI hai vaha pItA thA? praznakartA : pahale to kucha patA hI nahIM thaa| dAdAzrI : yaha cupar3ane kI yA pIne kI hai patA hI nahIM thA! jo jIva bhayabhIta hote haiM, unheM trasakAya jIva kahA hai| isalie yaha bhayasaMjJA utpanna huI hai, usake lie bhagavAna ne bAta kI hai| dUsaroM ke lie to aisA hI kahA hai ki pAnI ko phAlatU DholanA mt| nahAnA, pInA, dhonA, kapar3e
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________________ ahiMsA ahiMsA dhonaa| parantu anartha yAnI ApakA hetu na ho to DholanA mt| abhayadAna - mahAdAna praznakartA : to jaina dharma meM abhayadAna ko itanA adhika mahatva kyoM diyA hai? dAdAzrI : abhayadAna ko to sabhI logoM ne mahatva diyA hai| abhayadAna to mukhya vastu hai| abhayadAna matalaba kyA ki yahA~ cir3iyA~ baiThI hoM to ve ur3a jAe~gI, aisA samajhakara hameM dhIre se dUsarI tarapha se cale jaanaa| rAta ko bAraha baje Ae hoM aura do kutte so gae hoM to apane bUTa se ve coMkakara jAga jAe~ge, aisA mAnakara baTa pairoM meM se nikAlakara aura dhIredhIre ghara AnA caahie| hamase koI Dare, use manuSyatA hI kaise kahA jAe? bAhara kutte bhI hamase nahIM Darane caahie| hama aise paira khaTakAte hue Ae~ aura kuttA kAna aise karake khar3A ho to hameM samajha jAnA cAhie ki ohoho, abhayadAna cUka gae! abhayadAna yAnI koI bhI jIva hamase bhayabhIta na ho| kahIM bhI dekhA hai abhayadAnI puruSoM ko? abhayadAna to sabase bar3A dAna 66 vaha hai bacAne kA ahaMkAra yaha to saba aisA hI samajhate haiM ki hama bacAte haiM isalie ye jIva bacate haiN| phira apane loga to kaise haiM? ghara para mA~ ko gAliyA~ de rahA hotA hai aura bAhara hai to bacAne nikalA hotA hai! __ina logoM ko samudra meM bhejanA caahie| aMdara samudra meM to saba sabjI-bhAjI aura anAja saba ugatA hogA nahIM? ye machaliyA~ khAtI hoMgI, vaha?! taba yahA~ se hama anAja bhejate hoMge, nahIM? kyoM canA aura ve saba DAlakara khilAte nahIM haiM? to kyA hai unakA bhojana? itanI-itanI choTIchoTI machaliyA~ hotI haiM, unheM itanI bar3I machaliyA~ nigalatI rahatI haiN| itanI bar3I ko phira usase bar3I hotI hai, vaha nigalA karatI hai| aise nigalate hI rahate haiM caina se| aura mAla paidA hI hotA rahatA hai eka trph| aba vahA~ akkalavAle ko baiThAyA ho to kyA dazA ho? jagat meM kaisI mAnyatA cala rahI hai? 'hama bacA rahe haiM' kaheMge aura kasAI ke Upara dveSa karate haiN| usa kasAI se hama pUche ki tU aisA nAlAyaka vyApAra karatA hai?' taba vaha kahe, 'kyoM sAhaba, mere vyApAra ko nAlAyaka kahate ho? merA to yaha bApa-dAdAoM kA pIr3hiyoM se vyApAra calatA AyA hai| hamArI dukAna hai yaha to|' isalie aisA kahate haiM hmeN| yAnI yaha unakI puztainI kahalAtI hai| hama kucha boleM to use aisA lagatA hai ki yaha akkala binA kA manuSya kucha samajhatA nhiiN|' yAnI jo mA~sAhAra karate haiM ve aisA ahaMkAra nahIM karate ki 'hama mAreMge aura aise maareNge|' yaha to ahiMsAvAlA bahuta ahaMkAra karatA hai ki 'maiM bacAtA huuN|' are bacAnevAle ko to ghara para nabbe varSa ke pitA haiM, marane kI taiyArI hai, unheM bacAo na! para aisA koI bacAtA hai? praznakartA : koI nahIM bcaataa| dAdAzrI : taba aisA kyoM bolate ho ki maiMne bacAyA aura maiMne aisA kiyA?! kasAI ke hAtha meM bhI sattA nahIM hai| mArane kI sattAvAlA koI maiM bAIsa sAla kA thA, taba kutte ko nahIM Darane detA thaa| hama niraMtara abhayadAna hI dete haiM, dUsarA kucha dete nhiiN| hamAre jaisA abhayadAna denA yadi koI sIkha gayA to usakA kalyANa ho jAe! bhaya kA dAna dene kI to logoM ko prekTisa pahale se hI hai, nahIM? 'maiM tujhe dekha lU~gA' khegaa| to vaha abhayadAna kahalAegA yA bhaya kA dAna kahalAegA? praznakartA : to ina jIvoM ko bacAte haiM vaha abhayadAna nahIM hai? dAdAzrI : vaha to bacAnevAle ko jabaradasta gunAha hai| vaha to khAlI ahaMkAra karatA hai| bhagavAna ne to itanA hI kahA thA ki Apa apanI AtmA kI dayA paalnaa| basa, itanA hI kahA huA hai pUre zAstra meM ki bhAvadayA paalnaa| dUsarI dayA ke lie Apako nahIM kahA hai| aura binA kAma ke hAtha meM loge to gunAha hogaa|
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________________ ahiMsA 'sAhaba, maiM pAlaka banU~?' taba logoM ne kahA, 'are, isa jaina seTha kA beTA aura tU nicale varNa kaa|' para dUsare loga bole, 'vaha nahIM legA to kahA~ rakhoge? mara jAe usase to kama se kama jIegA to shii| to vaha kyA burA hai?' isa taraha donoM bar3e hue| pahalA sunAra ke vahA~ bar3A huA aura bIsa-bAisa varSa kA huA taba kahatA hai, 'dArU pInA gunAha hai, mA~sAhAra karanA, vaha gunAha hai|' jaba ki dUsarA aThAraha-bIsa varSa kA huA taba kahatA hai, 'dArU pInA cAhie, dArU banAnA cAhie. mA~sAhAra karanA caahie|' aba ye do bhAI eka bhiMDI ke do dAne, kyoM aise alaga-alaga bole? praznakartA : sNskaar| ahiMsA janmA hI nhiiN| ye to phAlatU kA igoiz2ama karate haiN| yaha kasAI kahatA hai ki, 'acche-acche jIva kATe haiN|' vaha usakA igoiz2ama karatA hai, taba riyala kyA kahatA hai?! isa mAranevAle kA mokSa hogA yA bacAnevAle kA mokSa hogA? donoM kA hI mokSa nahIM hai| donoM igoiz2amavAle haiN| yaha bacAne kA igoiz2ama karatA hai aura vaha mArane kA igoiz2ama karatA hai| riyala meM nahIM calegA, rileTiva meM clegaa| ve donoM ahaMkArI haiM bhagavAna koI kaccI mAyA nahIM hai| bhagavAna ke vahA~ to mokSa meM jAne ke lie kAnUna kaisA hai? eka zarAba pIne kA ahaMkAra karatA hai aura eka zarAba nahIM pIne kA ahaMkAra karatA hai| una donoM ko bhagavAna mokSa meM praveza nahIM karane dete| vahA~ kaifI ko praveza nahIM karane dete| vahA~ niSkaifI ko Ane dete haiN| isalie jo loga dArU nahIM pIte aura usakI mana meM jhUThI ghemarAjI (khuda kI bahuta sImita kSamatA ho paraMtu sabakucha kara sake aisA ghamaMDa) rakhate haiM, vaha to bhayaMkara gunAha hai| vaha to dArU pInevAle se bhI gayAbItA hai| dArU pItA ho vaha to becArA aise hI kahatA hai ki, 'sAhaba, maiM to sabase mUrkha insAna hU~, gadhA hU~, nAlAyaka huuN|' aura do maTake pAnI DAleM na, taba bhI usakA kaifa utara jaae| para ina logoM ko moha kA jo dArU car3hA huA hai, vaha anAdi janmoM se utaratA hI nahIM, aura 'maiM kucha hU~, maiM kucha hU~' karate rahate haiN| usakA Apako eka udAharaNa smjhaauuN| eka choTe gA~va meM eka jaina seTha rahate the| sthiti sAdhAraNa thii| unakA eka beTA tIna varSa kA aura eka Der3ha varSa kaa| acAnaka plega phailA aura mA~-bApa donoM mara ge| donoM bacce raha ge| phira gA~vavAloM ko patA calA, ve saba ikaTThe hue ki aba ina baccoM kA kyA kareM? hama usakA rAstA nikaale| koI baccoM kA pAlaka nikale to acchaa| eka sunAra thA, usane bar3e lar3ake ko liyaa| aura dUsare ko koI lenevAlA hI nahIM thA, isalie eka nicale varNavAlA kahatA hai, dAdAzrI : hA~, saMskAra, alaga-alaga pAnI kA siMcana huA ! isalie phira kisI ne kahA ki, 'yaha to jaina kahalAe hI nahIM na!' eka saMta hoMge. unase pachA ki 'sAhaba, ye do bhAI the aura aisA alaga-alaga kahate haiN| inameM se mokSa kisakA hogA?' taba saMta kahate haiM, 'isameM mokSa kI bAta karane kI rahI hI kahA~? vaha dArU nahIM pIne kA ahaMkAra karatA hai. mA~sAhAra nahIM karane kA ahaMkAra karatA hai| aura yaha dArU pIne kA ahaMkAra karatA hai, mA~sAhAra karane kA ahaMkAra karatA hai| isameM mokSa kI bAta hI kahA~ rahI? mokSa kI bAta to alaga hI hai| vahA~ to niraahaMkArI bhAva caahie|' ye to donoM ahaMkArI haiN| eka isa khaDDe meM par3A hai, dUsarA dUsare khaDDe meM par3A hai| bhagavAna donoM ko ahaMkArI kahate haiN| sirpha ahiMsA ke pujAriyoM ke lie hI loga jo mAnate haiM vaisA bhagavAna ne nahIM kahA hai, bhagavAna bahuta samajhadAra puruSa! bhagavAna ne aisA kahA hai ki isa varlDa meM koI aisA hai nahIM ki jo kisI ko mAra ske| kyoMki sAinTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDensa hai| kisa taraha mAra sakatA hai? sAre kitane hI saMyoga ikaTThe hoM taba vaha mara jAtA hai! aura phira sAtha-sAtha aisA bhI kahA hai ki yaha bilakula gupta rakhane jaisI bAta hai| taba koI kahegA, 'sAhaba, aisA bhI bolate haiM aura aisA bhI bolate haiM?' taba bhagavAna kahate haiM. 'dekho. yaha bAta
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________________ ahiMsA ahiMsA bhagavAna ne ahiMsA kI preraNA dii| mArane kA jo ahaMkAra hai, use chur3avAne ke lie ye saba bAteM krii| praznakartA : itanA pacAnA sAdhAraNa manuSya ke lie z2arUrata se jyAdA jJAna nahIM kahalAtA? dAdAzrI : nA, vaha pace aisA nhiiN| isalie khulA nahIM kiyaa| sabhI ko aisA hI kahA ki Apa bacAo, nahIM to yaha mara jaaegaa| samajhadAra vyaktiyoM ke lie hai, jo ahiMsA ke pujArI haiM, unake lie hI yaha vAkya kahate haiN| aura hiMsA ke pujArI haiM, unake lie yaha nahIM khte| nahIM to vaha bhAvanA karegA ki mujhe ina logoM ko mAra DAlanA hai| yAnI isa bhava meM to vaha nahIM honevAlA, para yaha bhAvanA karegA to AnevAle bhava meM phala aaegaa|' isalie yaha bAta kisake pAsa karanI hai? yaha ahiMsA ke pujAriyoM ke pAsa hI bAta karane ko kahA hai| _ 'yaha' sabake lie nahIM hai bhagavAna ne kahA hai ki mArane kA ahaMkAra mata karanA aura bacAne kA ahaMkAra bhI mata krnaa| tU mAregA to terA AtmabhAva maregA, bAhara koI maranevAlA nahIM hai| isalie usase khuda kI hiMsA hotI hai, dUsarA kucha nhiiN| AtmA koI aise maratA nahIM, para yaha to khuda, khuda kI hiMsA kara rahA hai| isalie bhagavAna ne manA kiyA hai| aura tU bacAegA vaha jhUThA ahaMkAra kara rahA hai| vaha bhI tU AtmabhAva kI hiMsA hI kara rahA hai| isalie ye donoM galata kara rahe hai| yaha saba tUfAna chor3a n| bAkI koI kisI ko mAra sakatA hI nhiiN| para bhagavAna ne yadi aisA sApha-sApha kahA hotA ki mAra sakatA hI nahIM, to loga ahaMkAra karate ki maiMne mArA! yaha saba kisI meM tAkata nahIM hai| bagaira tAkata kA yaha jagat hai| vyartha hI binA kAma ke vikalpa karake bhaTakA karate haiN| jJAniyoM ne dekhA hai| yaha jagat kisa taraha calA karatA hai| isalie ye saba galata vikalpa paiTha gae haiM, vahA~ phira nirvikalpa kisa taraha se hoM phira? yAnI ye sAre jIva haiM na, ve koI kisI ko mAra sakate hI nhiiN| mAra sakane kI kisI meM zakti hI nhiiN| phira bhI bhagavAna bole ki hiMsA chor3akara aura ahiMsA meM aao| ve kyA kahate haiM ki mArane kA ahaMkAra chodd'o| dUsarA kucha chor3anA nahIM hai, mArane kA ahaMkAra chor3anA hai| Apake mArane se mArA nahIM jAtA, to phira ahaMkAra kisalie karate ho binA kAma ke? ahaMkAra karake jyAdA lapeTa meM Aoge. bhayaMkara jokhima mola loge| usa jIva ko usake nimitta se marane do na! vaha maranevAlA hI hai, parantu Apa ahaMkAra kisalie karate ho? isalie ahaMkAra baMda karavAne ke lie mArane-bacAne kA gupta rahasya aba 'isane jIva ko mArA, isane aisA kiyA, isane bacAyA' vaha saba vyavahAra mAtra hai| karekTa nahIM hai yh| riyala meM kyA hai? koI bhI jIva kisI bhI jIva ko mAra sakatA hI nhiiN| use mArane meM to sabhI sAinTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDensa ikaTThe hoM, taba hI mre| akelA koI vyakti svataMtra aise mAra nahIM sakatA hai| aba eviDensa ikaTThe hoM tabhI mare aura eviDensa apane hAtha meM hai nhiiN| isalie koI bhI jIva kisI bhI jIva ko bacA sakatA hI nhiiN| vaha to sAinTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDensa ho to hI bace, nahIM to bace nhiiN| yaha to khAlI bacAne kA ahaMkAra karatA hai| para sAtha-sAtha aisA kahA ki tU mana meM se bhAva nikAla de ki mujhe mAranA hai| kyoMki bhAva eka eviDensa hai| ve dUsare eviDensa ikaTThe hote haiM aura yaha eviDensa ikaTThA ho taba kArya ho jaaegaa| matalaba unameM se 'vana oNpha da eviDensa' 'khuda kA' bhAva hai| usake kAraNa sabhI eviDensa kA 'khuda' igoiz2ama karatA hai| maraNakAla meM hI maraNa yaha to hama sUkSma bAta kahanA cAhate haiM ki kisI jIva ko usakA maraNakAla kA saMyoga hue binA kisI se mArA nahIM jA sktaa| abhI sAta bakare hoM na, taba vaha do becatA hai aura, vaha jisakA maraNakAla AyA ho, use hI becatA hai| are, sAta meM se ye do tujhe pyAre nahIM the? ve bhI acche hI haiM becAre, to tU unheM kyoM de detA hai? aura bakarA bhI usake sAtha khuza
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________________ ahiMsA hokara jAtA hai| kyoMki maraNakAla AyA hai isalie! phira vahA~ use kasAIkhAne meM raMgate-karate haiM na, to vaha aMdara khuza bhI hotA hai| vaha samajhatA hai ki divAlI aaii| aisA jagat hai| parantu yaha saba samajhane jaisA hai| isalie usake maraNakAla ke binA bAhara to koI maratA nahIM hai| parantu tU mArane kA bhAva karatA hai. isalie tujhe bhAvahiMsA lagatI hai aura vaha tere AtmA kI hiMsA ho rahI hai| tU apanI khuda kI hiMsA kara rahA hai| bAhara kA to vaha maranevAlA hogA taba mregaa| usakA TAima AegA, usakA saMyoga A milegA aura vaha to sAinTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDensa haiN| kitane sAre eviDensa ikaTThe hoM aura ve to A~khoM se dikhate nahIM aise eviDensa ikaTThe hoM, taba vaha jIva maratA hai| isalie use mana meM aisA lagatA hai ki 'maiMne mAra ddaalaa|"are, terI mArane kI icchA to nahIM aura kisa taraha mArA use?' taba kahegA, 'parantu merA paira usake Upara par3A na?' 'are, paira terA hai? tere paira ko pakSAghAta nahIM hotA?' taba kahe, 'pakSAghAta to paira ko hotA hai| to vaha paira terA nahIM hai| terI vastu ko pakSAghAta nahIM hotaa| tU paira ke Upara terA mAlikIpana rakhatA hai, para jhUThI mAlikI hai| kisI jJAnI puruSa ko pUcha to A, ki yaha merA hai yA parAyA hai? vaha pUcha na! pUche to jJAnI puruSa samajhA deM ki bhAI, yaha saba nahIM hai teraa| yaha paira bhI parAyA, yaha dUsarA saba parAyA aura yaha teraa| aise jJAnI puruSa saba spaSTatA kara deNge| jJAnI puruSa ke pAsa sarve karavA le| yaha to logoM ke pAsa sarve karavAtA hai| para yaha sarve karanevAle to pAgala haiN| ve to parAI vastu ko hI merI kahate haiN| isalie saccA sarve huA hI nhiiN| jJAnI puruSa sarve karake alaga kara dete haiM aura lAina oNpha DimArkezana DAla dete haiM ki yaha itanA bhAga ApakA, yaha itanA bhAga praayaa| jo kabhI bhI apanA nahIM hotA, vaha parAyA kahalAtA hai| cAhe jitanI mAthAkUTa kareM, phira bhI vaha apanA nahIM hotaa| 72 ahiMsA samajha meM A jaataa| phira bhI yaha bAta bhagavAna ne kI hai, para logoM ko samajha meM nahIM hai| bhagavAna ne sArI hI spaSTatA kI hai| para vaha saba sUtroM meM hai| una lAkha sUtroM ko pighalAe~ taba itanA pighle| bhagavAna jo bole, vaha sone ke rUpa meM nikalA aura gautama svAmI saba sUta para car3hAte rhe| aba jaba koI gautama svAmI jaisA ho, taba vApisa una sUtroM meM se sonA nikaale| para vaha gautama svAmI jaise Ae~ kaba aura sonA nikale kaba aura apane dina phireM kaba? ___'mAranA nahIM hai' kA nizcaya karo aba kitane hI logoM ne nizcaya kiyA hai ki 'hameM nAma mAtra kI bhI hiMsA karanI nahIM hai| kisI jIva jaMtu ko mAranA nahIM hai| aisA nizcaya kiyA ho to phira usase jIvajaMtu koI marane ke lie phAlatU hI nahIM hotaa| usake paira ke nIce Ae taba bhI bacakara calA jAtA hai| aura 'mujhe jIva mArane hI haiM' aisA jisane nizcaya kiyA hai, vahA~ marane ke lie saba taiyAra bAkI, bhagavAna ne kahA hai ki isa jagat meM koI manuSya kisI bhI jIva ko mAra sakatA hI nhiiN| taba koI kahe, 'he bhagavAna, aisA kyA bolate haiM? hamane mArate hue sabako dekhA hai na!' taba bhagavAna kahate haiM, 'nahIM, usane mArane ke bhAva kie haiM aura ina jIvoM kA maraNakAla A rahA hai| isalie isakA maraNakAla Ae taba usakA saMjoga mila jAtA hai, mArane ke bhAvavAle se mila jAtA hai| bAkI mAra to nahIM hI sakatA hai| para maraNakAla Ae to marate haiM aura taba hI vaha mila AtA hai| yaha bAta bahata jhInI hai| varlDa yadi samajhA hotA na Aja, to Azcaryacakita ho jAtA! praznakartA : Trena meM eksiDanTa hotA hai aura Trena ke nIce AdamI mara jAtA hai| to usameM Trena ne kauna-sA nizcaya kiyA? dAdAzrI : Trena ko nizcaya kI z2arUrata hI nahIM hotii| yaha to jisakA maraNakAla mila AtA hai na, taba vaha kahegA ki, 'hama cAhe jisa taraha se mreNge|' to 'vaha paravAha hI nahIM' aisA bhAva ho to vaisA maraNa AtA hai| aba maraNakAla kisI ke hAtha kI bAta nahIM hai| para bhagavAna ne yaha batAyA nahIM hai ki isake pIche kaoNz2ez2a haiN| kucha jJAna batAe nahIM jA skte| isa prakAra bAta bhagavAna ne yadi vistArapUrvaka kI hotI to logoM ko bahuta
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________________ ahiMsA 73 usane jaise bhAva kie hoM, vaise bhAvoM se hI usakA hisAba banatA hai| parantu maraNakAla Ae binA kisI se maratA nhiiN| isalie isameM senTensa kyA samajhanA hai? ki usa jIva kA maraNakAla nahIM AyA ho, taba taka koI mAra sakatA hI nhiiN| aura maraNakAla kisI ke hAtha meM nahIM hai| nahIM 'maratA' koI bhagavAna kI bhASA meM praznakartA: parantu yaha jo hiMsA nahIM karanI vaha daivIguNa hai yA nahIM? yAnI hiMsA karanA vaha gunAha hai yA nahIM? dAdAzrI : maiM Apako gupta bAta batA detA hU~? ! ina sabake sAmane, koI durupayoga kare aisA nahIM isalie kaha rahA huuN| isa jagat meM bhagavAna kI dRSTi se koI maratA hI nhiiN| bhagavAna kI bhASA meM koI maratA hI nahIM, lokabhASA meM maratA hai / isa bhrAMti kI bhASA meM maratA hai| yaha khulI bAta khii| kabhI bhI bolA nhiiN| Aja Apake sAmane rahA huuN| bhagavAna ke jJAna meM jo baratatA hai, vaha mere jJAna meM baratatA hai, vaha yaha hai ki isa jagat meM koI jIvita hai nahIM aura koI marA hI nhiiN| abhI taka yaha duniyA cala rahI hai, taba se koI marA hI nhiiN| jo maratA huA dikhatA hai vaha bhrAMti hai| aura janma letA huA dikhatA hai vaha bhrAMti hai| yaha bhagavAna kI bhASA kI khulI haqIqata kaha dI maiNne| aba Apako purAnI samajha ko pakar3akara rakhanA ho to pakar3e rahanA aura nahIM pakar3anA ho to nayI ko pakar3anA / yaha hamArI bAta samajha meM AI Apako ? praznakartA : bAta samajha meM AI, para Apane bahuta hI aspaSTa rUpa se kahI hai| dAdAzrI : hA~, matalaba bhagavAna kI bhASA meM koI maratA hI nahIM / haz2AroM vyakti vahA~ kaTa gae hoN| vaha mahAvIra bhagavAna jAneM, to mahAvIra bhagavAna ko koI asara nahIM hotaa| kyoMki ve jAnate haiM ki koI maratA 74 ahiMsA hI nhiiN| yaha to logoM ke lie marate haiM, vAstava meM maratA nahIM hai| yaha dikhatA hai, vaha saba bhrAMti hai| mujhe koI bhI kabhI bhI maratA huA dikhA hI nahIM na! Apako dikhatA hai, utanI zaMkAe~ Apako huA karatI haiM ki 'kyA ho jAegA, kyA ho jAegA?' taba maiM kahU~ ki, 'bhAI, kucha hogA nahIM, tU merI AjJA meM rahanA / ' isalie Aja sUkSma bAta maiMne kara DAlI ki bhagavAna kI bhASA meM koI maratA nhiiN| phira bhI bhagavAna se logoM ne kahA ki, 'bhagavAna, yaha jJAna khulA hI kara do na!' taba bhagavAna kahate haiM, 'nA, khule rUpa se kahA jAe aisA nahIM hai| loga phira aisA hI samajheMge ki koI maratA hI nahIM / isalie ve cAhe use khA jAe~, vaise bhAva kareMge, bhAva bigaadd'eNge|' logoM ke bhAva bigar3eMge isalie bhagavAna ne yaha jJAna khulA nahIM kiyaa| ajJAnI logoM ko bhAva bigAr3ane meM samaya nahIM lagatA aura bhAva bigar3e yAnI 'khuda' vaisA ho jaae| kyoMki jo hai vaha khuda hI hai, usakA koI UparI hI nahIM / isalie jaba taka bhrAMti hai, taba taka aisA bolA hI nahIM jA sakatA ki bhagavAna kI bhASA meM koI maratA nhiiN| yaha to Apane pUchA ThIka se, taba mujhe khulA karanA pdd'aa| usameM apane 'mahAtmAoM' ke bIca kahane meM harja nahIM hai| ye 'mahAtmA' durupayoga kareM aise nahIM haiN| Apa 'bhagavAna kI bhASA meM koI maratA nahIM hai' aisA vahA~ sabako kaha doge? praznakartA: mujhe kisI kA Dara nhiiN| maiM to himmata se kahU~ / dAdAzrI : mata khnaa| yaha jJAna khulA kiyA jAe aisA nahIM hai| yaha bhagavAna kI bhASA kA jJAna to jo 'zuddhAtmA' ho gayA hai, use hI jAnane jaisA hai| dUsaroM ko jAnane jaisA yaha jJAna nahIM hai| dUsare logoM ke lie yaha poijana hai| bhArata meM bhAvahiMsA bhArI praznakartA: ahiMsA kA vyApaka pracAra karane meM bahuta samaya lagegA? dAdAzrI : bahuta samaya lage taba bhI pracAra pUrApUrA nahIM hogaa| kyoMki
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________________ ahiMsA 75 saMsAra matalaba kyA ? hiMsAtmaka hI rukha saaraa| isalie vaha to mela nahIM khaaegaa| ye to hindustAna meM thor3A-bahuta ahiMsA pAlane ke lie taiyAra hote haiN| bAkI saba loga to ahiMsA samajhate hI nahIM na! praznakartA: para jIvoM ko bacAnA cAhie, usake pIche sUkSma ahiMsA kA bhAva hai? dAdAzrI : vaha bacAnA matalaba sUkSma nahIM, sthUla ahiMsA hai| sUkSma to samajheMge nhiiN| sUkSma ahiMsA kisa taraha samajheMge ve ? ina logoM ko sthUla bhI abhI samajha meM nahIM AtA na, to sUkSma kaba samajha meM AegA? aura yaha sthUla ahiMsA to unake khUna meM par3I huI hai na, isalie ye choTe prakAra ke jIvoM kI ahiMsA kA dhyAna rakhate haiN| bAkI, ye saba loga khuda ke ghara meM pUrA dina hiMsA hI kiyA karate haiM, sabhI apavAda binA ! praznakartA: ina vesTarna kaMTrIz2a meM bhI niraMtara hiMsA hI kiyA karate haiN| khAne meM, pIne meM, hareka kArya meN| ghara meM bhI hiMsA / makkhiyA~ mAranI, macchara mArane, bAhara laoNna meM bhI hiMsA, davAIyA~ chir3akanI, jaMtu mAra DAlane, bAga-bagIce meM bhI hiMsA, to ve loga kisa taraha chUTeM? dAdAzrI : are, unakI hiMsA se to isa hindustAna ke loga jyAdA hiMsA karate haiN| dUsarI hiMsA ke badale yaha hiMsA bahuta khraab| sArA dina AtmA kI hI hiMsA karate haiN| bhAvahiMsA kahate haiM use / praznakartA : ye loga to khuda ke AtmA kI hI hiMsA karate haiM, para ve loga to dUsaroM kI AtmA kI hiMsA karate haiN| dAdAzrI : ye loga to sabhI ke AtmA kI hiMsA karate haiN| jojo milatA hai, una sabakI hiMsA karate haiN| kAma hI inakA ulTA hai| isalie to ve loga sukhI haiM na ! dUsarA, aise jisa tisa ko dukha dene ke vicAra hI nahIM aura 'Ai vila helpa yU, AI vila helpa yU' kiyA karate haiM aura apane yahA~ to matalaba rakhate haiM, 'mujhe kAma AegA' to helpa karate haiM, nahIM to nahIM krte| pahale hisAba nikAlakara dekha lete haiM ki mujhe kAma AegA ! aisA hisAba nikAlate haiM yA nahIM nikAlate? ahiMsA isalie bhagavAna ne bhAvahiMsA ko bahuta bar3I hiMsA kahI hai aura vaisA saba pUrA hindustAna bhAvahiMsA kara rahA hai| praznakartA: para yahA~ to ahiMsA para sabase adhika jora dete haiN| 76 dAdAzrI : phira bhI sabase adhika hiMsA yahA~ ke logoM kI hai| kyoMki sArA dina kalaha kalaha aura kalaha hI kiyA karate haiN| usakA kyA kAraNa? ki yahA~ ke loga adhika jAgRta haiN| phira bhI Aja ke lar3ake jo ulTe rAste cala par3e haiM, unako aisI bhAvahiMsA bahuta nahIM hai becAroM ko| kyoMki ve mA~sAhAra karate haiM aura saba karate haiM isalie jar3a jaise ho gae haiN| isalie jar3a meM bhAvahiMsA bahuta nahIM hotii| bAkI, adhika jAgRta ho vahA~ kevala bhAvahiMsA hotI hai| isalie sArA dina kalaha, kalaha...... pyAle phUTe taba bhI kalaha ! kucha ho gayA taba bhI kalaha ! bhAva svataMtra, dravya parataMtra praznakartA : phira bhI inheM cAhe jaise, para ahiMsA to huI hI na? dAdAzrI : bhAva hai vaha svataMtra hiMsA hai aura dravya hai vaha parataMtra hiMsA hai| vaha khuda ke kAbU meM nahIM hai| isalie yaha parataMtra ahiMsA pAlate haiN| Aja unakA vaha puruSArtha nahIM hai| isalie yaha jo ahiMsA hai, vaha sthUla jIvoM ke lie ahiMsA hai, para vaha galata nahIM hai| jaba ki bhagavAna ne kyA kahA huA hai ki yaha ahiMsA Apa bAhara pAlate ho, vaha saMpUrNa ahiMsA pAlo, sUkSma jIva yA sthUla jIva sabake lie ahiMsA pAlo, para Apake AtmA kI bhAvahiMsA nahIM ho, vaha pahale dekho| yaha to niraMtara bhAvahiMsA hI ho rahI hai| aba yaha bhAvahiMsA loga mu~ha se bolate z2arUra hai, para bhAvahiMsA kise kahate haiM, vaha samajhanA cAhie na? mere pAsa bAtacIta ho to maiM samajhAU~ / bhAvahiMsA kisIko dikhatI nahIM hai, aura sinemA kI taraha, sinemA calatA hai na, vaha hama dekhate haiM, aise dikhAI de vaha saba dravyahiMsA hai| bhAvahiMsA meM itanA sUkSma baratatA hai aura dravyahiMsA to dikhatI hai, pratyakSa,
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________________ 77 ahiMsA ahiMsA mana-vacana-kAyA se jo jagat meM dikhatA hai, vaha dravyahiMsA hai| baco bhAvahiMsA se prathama isalie bhagavAna ne aGkSahasA alaga prakAra kI kahI ki pharsTa ahiMsA kauna-sI? AtmahatyA nahIM ho| pahalA aMdara se bhAvahiMsA nahIM ho use dekhane ko kahA hai, usake badale kahA~ se kahA~ calA gyaa| ye to bhAvahiMsA saba huA hI karatI hai, niraMtara bhAvahiMsA huA karatI hai| isalie zurUAta meM bhAvahiMsA baMda karanI hai aura dravyahiMsA to kisI ke hAtha meM hI nahIM hai| phira bhI aisA bolanA nahIM caahie| aisA bologe to jokhima aaegaa| bAhara sabake sAmane nahIM bolanA hai| samajhadAra vyakti ko hI kahA jA sakatA hai| isalie vItarAgoM ne saba khulA nahIM kiyaa| bAkI dravyahiMsA kisI ke hAtha meM hI nahIM, kisI jIva ke tAbe meM hai hI nhiiN| para yadi aisA kahA jAe na to loga AnevAlA bhava bigaadd'eNge| kyoMki bhAva kie binA rahate nahIM na! ki 'aisA hAtha meM hai hI nahIM, aba to mArane meM doSa hI nahIM na!' vaha bhAvahiMsA hI baMda karanI hai| matalaba vItarAga kitane samajhadAra ! eka akSara bhI isa bAre meM likhA hai? dekho, itanA bhI lIkeja hone diyA! tIrthaMkara kitane samajhadAra puruSa the, jahA~ paira rakheM vahA~ tIrtha ! phira bhI dravyahiMsA baMda kareM, tabhI bhAvahiMsA rakhI jA sakatI hai aisA hai vaapis| phira bhI bhAvahiMsA kI mukhya qImata hai| isalie jIvoM kI 'hiMsA-ahiMsA' meM bhagavAna ne par3ane ko nahIM kahA hai, isa trh| bhagavAna kahate haiM, 'tU bhAvahiMsA mata krnaa| phira tU ahiMsaka mAnA jaaegaa|' itanA zabda bhagavAna ne kahA hai| aise hotI hai bhAva ahiMsA isalie sabase bar3I hiMsA bhagavAna ne kauna-sI kahI? ki 'isa vyakti ne kisI jIva ko mAra DAlA, use hama hiMsA nahIM kahate para isa vyakti ne jIva ko mArane kA bhAva kiyA, isalie use hama hiMsA kahate haiN|' bolo, aba loga kyA samajhate haiM? isane jIva ko mAra DAlA, isalie ise hI pkdd'o|' taba koI kahegA, 'isane jIvoM ko mArA to nahIM na?' mAre nahIM ho usakI bhI Apatti nahIM hai| parantu bhAva kiyA na usane, ki jIva mArane cAhie, isalie vahI gunahagAra hai| aura jIva ko to 'vyavasthita' mAratA hai| mAranevAlA to khAlI ahaMkAra karatA hai ki maiMne maaraa| aura yaha bhAva karatA hai, vaha to khuda mAratA hai| Apa kaho ki jIvoM ko bacAne jaisA hai| phira bace yA nahIM bace, usake jimmedAra Apa nahIM haiN| Apa kaho ki 'ina jIvoM ko bacAne jaisA hai', Apako itanA hI karanA hai| phira hiMsA ho gaI, usake jimmedAra Apa nahIM! hiMsA huI usakA pachatAvA, usakA pratikramaNa karanA usase jimmedArI saba khatama ho gii| aba itanI adhika sUkSma bAteM kisa taraha manuSya ko samajha meM Ae? usakI bisAta kyA? darzana kahA~ se itanA adhika lAe? ye merI bAteM sArI vahA~ le jAe to ulTA samajhe vApisa / pablika meM aisA hama nahIM khte| pablika meM kahA nahIM jA sakatA na! Apako samajha meM AtA hai? bhAvaahiMsA yAnI mujhe kisI bhI jIva ko mAranA hai, aisA bhAva kabhI bhI nahIM honA cAhie aura kisI bhI jIva ko mujhe dukha denA hai, aisA bhAva utpanna nahIM honA caahie| mana-vacana-kAyA se kisI jIva ko kiMcit mAtra dukha na ho, aisI bhAvanA hI sirpha karanI hai| kriyA nahIM bhAvanA hI karanI hai| kriyA meM to tU kisa taraha bacAnevAlA hai? zvAsozvAsa meM kitane hI lAkhoM jIva mara jAte haiM aura yahA~ jIvoM kI ToliyA~ TakarAtI haiM ve TakarAne se hI mara jAte haiN| kyoMki hama to unake lie bar3e-bar3e pattharoM jaise dikhate haiN| unheM aisA ki yaha patthara ttkraayaa| sabase bar3I AtmahiMsA, kaSAya jahA~ krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha haiM, vaha AtmahiMsA hai| aura dUsarI jIvoM kI hiMsA hai| bhAvahiMsA kA artha kyA? terI khuda kI jo hiMsA hotI hai, ye krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha ve tujhe khuda ko baMdhana karavAte haiM, to khuda para dayA khaa| pahale khuda kI bhAvaahiMsA aura phira dUsaroM kI bhAvaahiMsA kahA hai|
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________________ 79 80 ahiMsA ina choTe jaMtuoM ko mAranA, vaha dravyahiMsA kahalAtI hai| aura kisI ko mAnasika dakha denA, kisI para krodha karanA, gussA honA, vaha saba hiMsaka bhAva kahalAtA hai, bhAvaGkSahasA kahalAtA hai| loga cAhe jitanI aGkSahasA pAle para ahiMsA kucha itanI AsAna nahIM ki jaldI pAlI jA ske| aura daraasala hiMsA hI yaha krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha hai| yaha to jIvajaMtu ko mArate haiM, bhaiMse mArate haiM, bhaiMseM mArate haiM, ve to samajho ki dravyahiMsA hai| vaha to kudarata ke likhe anusAra hI calA karatA hai| isameM kisI kA cale aisA nhiiN| isalie bhagavAna ne to kyA kahA thA ki pahale, khuda ko kaSAya nahIM ho aisA krnaa| kyoMki ye kaSAya, ve sabase bar3I hiMsA haiN| vaha AtmahiMsA kahalAtI hai, bhAvahiMsA kahalAtI hai| dravyahiMsA ho jAe to bhale ho, parantu bhAvahiMsA nahIM hone denaa| taba ye loga dravyahiMsA rokate haiM, para bhAvahiMsA cAlU rahatI hai| isalie kisI ne nizcita kiyA ho ki 'mujhe nahIM hI mArane', to usake bhAgya meM koI marane nahIM aataa| aba vaise to vApisa usane sthUlahiMsA baMda kI ki mujhe kisI jIva ko mAranA nahIM hai| para buddhi se mAranA aisA nizcita kiyA ho taba to vApisa usakA bAz2Ara khullA hotA hai| taba vahA~ Akara 'kITa-pataMge' TakarAte rahate haiM aura vaha bhI hiMsA hI hai na! ahiMsA phira jahA~ pakSapAta hai vahA~ hiMsA hai| pakSapAta yAnI ki hama alaga aura Apa alaga, vahA~ hiMsA hai| aise ahiMsA kA tamagA lagAtA hai ki hama ahiMsaka prajA haiN| hama ahiMsA meM hI mAnanevAle haiM, para bhAI, pahalI hiMsA, vaha pakSapAta hai| yadi itanA zabda samajhe to bhI bahuta ho gyaa| isalie vItarAgoM kI bAta samajhane kI z2arUrata hai| nija kA bhAvamaraNa pratikSaNa sAre jagat ke logoM ko raudradhyAna aura ArtadhyAna to apane Apa hotA hI rahatA hai| usake lie to kucha karanA hI nahIM hai| isalie isa jagat meM sabase bar3I hiMsA kauna-sI? ArtadhyAna aura raudradhyAna! kyoMki vaha AtmahiMsA kahalAtI hai| vo jIvoM kI hiMsA to padagala hiMsA kahalAtI hai aura yaha AtmahiMsA kahalAtI hai| to kauna-sI hiMsA acchI? praznakartA : hiMsA to koI bhI acchI nahIM hai| parantu AtmahiMsA vaha bar3I kahalAtI hai| dAdAzrI : phira ye loga sAre pudgalahiMsA to bahuta pAlate haiN| para AtmahiMsA to huA hI karatI hai| AtmahiMsA ko zAstrakAroM ne bhAvahiMsA likhA hai| aba bhAvahiMsA isa jJAna ke bAda Apako baMda ho jAtI hai| to aMdara kaisI zAMti rahatI hai na! praznakartA : kRpAludeva ne isa bhAvahiMsA ko bhAvamaraNa kahA hai na? kRpAludeva kA vAkya hai na, 'kSaNa kSaNa bhayaMkara bhAvamaraNe kAM aho rAcI rahyo' usameM samaya-samaya kA bhAvamaraNa hotA hai? dAdAzrI : hA~ pratyeka kSaNa bhayaMkara bhAvamaraNa yAnI kyA kahanA cAhate haiM? jaba ki pratikSaNa bhAvamaraNa nahIM hotA, hara eka samaya bhayaMkara bhAvamaraNa hotA hai| para yaha to sthUla rUpa se para likhA huA hai| jaba ki pratyeka samaya bhAvamaraNa hI ho rahA hai| bhAvamaraNa matalaba kyA ki 'maiM caMdalAla hU~' vahI bhAvamaraNa hai| jo avasthA utpanna huI vaha avasthA 'mujhe' huI aisA mAnanA matalaba bhAvamaraNa huaa| ina saba logoM kI ramaNatA bhAvamaraNa meM isalie kisI jIva ko trAsa nahIM ho, kisI jIva ko kiMcit mAtra dukha nahIM ho, kisI jIva kI z2arA-sI bhI hiMsA ho, vaisA nahIM honA caahie| aura kisI manuSya ke lie eka z2arA-sA bhI kharAba abhiprAya nahIM honA caahie| duzmana ke lie bhI abhiprAya badalA. to vaha sabase baDI hiMsA hai| eka bakarA mAro usake sAmane to yaha bar3I hiMsA hai| ghara ke logoM ke sAtha cir3hanA, vaha bakarA mAro usase bhI bar3I hiMsA hai| kyoMki cir3hanA vaha AtmaghAta hai| aura bakare kA maranA vaha alaga cIz2a hai| aura logoM kI niMdA karanI, vaha mArane ke barAbara hai| isalie niMdA meM to par3anA hI mt| bilakula bhI logoM kI niMdA kabhI karanI nhiiN| vaha hiMsA hI hai|
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________________ ahiMsA hai ki 'yaha sAmAyika maiMne kiyA, yaha maiMne kiyaa|' praznakartA : to phira bhAva sajIva kisa prakAra se ho sakate haiM? dAdAzrI : aise bhAva sajIva nahIM haiN| bhAva kA maraNa ho gayA hai| bhAvamaraNa vaha nidrA kahalAtA hai| bhAvanidrA aura bhAvamaraNa ve donoM eka hI haiN| isa 'akrama vijJAna' meM bhAva vastu hI nahIM rakhate, isalie phira bhAvamaraNa hotA nahIM, aura kramika meM to pratikSaNa bhAvamaraNa meM hI baMdhe hote haiN| kRpAludeva to jJAnI puruSa na, isalie unheM akele ko hI samajha meM AtA thA, unheM aisA lagatA ki, 'yaha to bhAvamaraNa huA, yaha bhAvamaraNa haa|' isalie khada niraMtara saceta rahate the| dasare loga to bhAvamaraNa meM hI calA karate haiN| bhAvamaraNa kA artha kyA? ki svabhAva kA maraNa huA aura vibhAva kA janma huaa| avasthA meM 'maiM', usase vibhAva kA janma huA aura 'hama' avasthA ko dekheM taba svabhAva kA janma huaa| ___isalie yaha pudgalahiMsA hogI na, to usakA koI niber3A aaegaa| parantu AtmahiMsAvAle kA niber3A nahIM aaegaa| itanI bArIkI se loga samajhAte hI nahIM na! ve to moTA kAta dete haiN| __ ahiMsA se bar3hI buddhi aisA hai, ArtadhyAna aura raudradhyAna to musalamAnoM ko hotA hai, krizciyanoM ko hotA hai, sabhI ko hotA hai, aura apane logoM ko bhI hotA hai| usameM pharka kyA hai? Dipharensa kyA? ulTA apane logoM ko adhika hotA hai| kyoMki jIvahiMsA meM z2arA maryAdA rakhI hai| ahiMsAdharma pAlate haiM, usake kAraNa adhika hotA hai| kyoMki usakA dimAg2a bahuta tez2a hotA hai, buddhizAlI hotA hai| aura jaise buddhi bar3hatI hai, vaise dUSamakAla meM bhayaMkara pApa baMdhate haiN| aura adhika buddhizAlI kama buddhivAle ko mAratA bhI hai| faoNrenavAle aura muslima koI buddhi se mAratA nahIM hai| apane hindustAna ke loga to buddhi se mArate haiN| buddhi se mAranA to kisI kAla ahiMsA meM hotA hI nahIM thaa| isa kAla meM hI nayI balA khar3I huI hai yh| parantu buddhi ho taba mAre na?! taba buddhi kise hotI haiM? eka to ina jIvoM kA jo ghAta nahIM karate hoM, ahiMsAdharma pAlate hoM, chahoM kAyA ke jIvoM kI hiMsA nahIM karate hoM, unakI buddhi bar3hatI hai| phira koI kaMdamUla nahIM khAtA ho usakI buddhi bar3hatI hai| tIrthaMkara kI mUrti ke darzana kare, unakI buddhi bar3hatI hai| aura yaha buddhi bar3hI, usakA lAbha kyA huA? praznakartA : ina logoM ke prati Apa anyAya karate ho| dAdAzrI : anyAya nahIM krtaa| bahuta buddhizAlI haiM isalie unheM nukasAna hogA, aisA maiMne pustaka meM likhA hai| jaisA hai vaisA na kaheM to jyAdA ulTe rAste para cleNge| baddhi se mAranA, vaha bhayaMkara gunAha hai| to buddhi bar3hI usakA aisA durupayoga karanA hai? aura jAgRti kama ho, vaha becArA maMdakaSAyI hotA hai| ahiMsA kA dharma pAlatA hai, janmajAta hI choTe jIvoM ko nahIM mAranA aisA usakI bilIfa meM hai, usake darzana meM hai vaha adhika tIkSNa buddhivAlA hotA hai| praznakartA : janma se hI ahiMsA pAlatA hai isalie utane adhika mRdu kahalAte haiM na? dAdAzrI : mRdu nahIM kahalAte / ahiMsA pAlane kA phala aayaa| usakA phala buddhi bar3hI aura buddhi se logoM ko mArate rahe, buddhi se goliyA~ maarii| aise hI khUna kara DAle, to eka janmoM kA maraNa huA, parantu yaha to buddhi se golI mArane meM anaMta janma kA maraNa hogaa| bar3I hiMsA, lar3AI kI yA kaSAya kI? pahale ke jamAne meM gA~va ke seTha hote the, ve adhika buddhivAle hote the na ! gA~va meM do logoM meM jhagar3A ho to seTha usakA lAbha lete nahIM the| aura donoM ko apane ghara bulAte aura donoM ke jhagar3e kA nikAla kara dete| aura vApisa apane ghara bhojana bhI krvaate| kisa prakAra nikAla karate the?
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________________ ahiMsA ahiMsA ki donoM meM se eka vyakti kahe ki 'sAhaba mere pAsa do sau rupaye haiM nahIM to abhI kisa taraha se dU~?' taba seTha kyA kahate ki 'tere pAsa kitane haiM?' taba vaha kahe, 'pacAseka haiN|' to seTha kyA kahate ki 'to Der3ha sau le jaanaa|' aura jhagar3e kA hala kara dete| aura abhI to hAtha meM AI huI cir3iyA bhI khA jAte haiM! yaha maiM kisI ko AkSepa nahIM de rahA huuN| maiM sAre jagat ko niraMtara nirdoSa hI dekhatA huuN| ye sabhI vyavahArika bAteM cala rahI haiN| mujhe gAlI de, mAre, dhaula mAre, cAhe jo kare, para maiM pUre jagat ko nirdoSa hI dekhatA huuN| yaha to vyavahAra kA kaha rahA huuN| vyavahAra meM yadi na samajheM, to usakA niber3A kaba AegA? aura jJAnI puruSa ke pAsa se samajhe bagaira kA kAma nahIM lgtaa| bAkI, mujhe kisI ke sAtha parezAnI nahIM hai| praznakartA : itanA choTA baccA bhI apane yahA~ ahiMsA pAla rahA hotA hai, vaha usake pUrva ke saMskAra haiM na? dAdAzrI : hA~, isalie hI to na ! saMskAra ke bagaira to aisA mile hI nahIM na! pUrvajanma ke saMskAra aura puNya ke AdhAra para vaha milA, parantu aba durupayoga karane se kahA~ jAegA vaha kyA jAnate ho?! aba kahA~ jAnA hai, usakA sarTIphikeTa hai kisI prakAra kA? praznakartA : vaha to ahiMsA hI pAlatA hai| usakA durupayoga kahA~ karatA hai? dAdAzrI : ise ahiMsA kaheM hI kaise? manuSya ke sAtha kaSAya karanA, usake jaisI bar3e se bar3I hiMsA isa jagat meM koI nahIM hai| aisA eka DhU~Dhakara lAo ki jo nahIM karatA ho| ghara meM kaSAya na kare, hiMsA na kare aisaa| sAre dina kaSAya karane aura phira hama ahiMsaka haiM aisA kahalavAnA vaha bhayaMkara gunAha hai| isase to faoNrenavAloM ko itane kaSAya nahIM hote| kaSAya to jAgRti adhika ho vahI karatA hai na! Apako aisA samajha meM AtA hai ki adhika jAgRtivAlA karatA hai yA kama jAgRtivAlA karatA hai? Apako nahIM lagatA ki kaSAya vaha bhayaMkara gunAha hai? praznakartA : ThIka hai| dAdAzrI : hA~, yaha to usake jaisI hiMsA koI nhiiN| kaSAya vahI hiMsA hai aura yaha ahiMsA vaha to janmajAta ahiMsA hai, pUrva meM bhAvanA kI thI khAlI aura Aja udaya meM aaii| isalie krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha, vaha hiMsA ruke, taba hiMsA ruka jAtI hai| praznakartA : vaha ThIka hai| vaha samajha meM aayaa| zAstra meM bhI aisA kahA hai| cakravartI rAjA itanI sArI lar3AIyA~ lar3ate haiM, hiMsA karate haiM, phira bhI unheM anaMtAnubaMdhI kaSAya lagate nhiiN| parantu kuguru, kudharma aura kusAdhu meM mAnate haiM, una logoM ko hI anaMtAnubaMdhI kaSAya baMdhate haiN| dAdAzrI : basa, usake jaisA anaMtAnubaMdhI dUsarA nahIM! yaha to khulA kahA hai na! buddhi se mAre vaha hArDa raudradhyAna praznakartA : para isameM sAre karma ke bheda haiM yA nahIM? dAdAzrI : para yaha samajha meM nahIM AtA? yaha choTe bacce ko samajha meM Ae aisA hai| hama fAnUsa lekara jA rahe hoM, aura kisI ke hAtha meM dIyA ho, usa becAre ko a~dhere meM nahIM dikhatA ho, to hama kaheMge na ki ruko cAcA, maiM AtA hU~, fAnUsa dikhAtA huuN| fAnUsa dikhAte haiM yA nahIM dikhAte? taba baddhi vaha lAiTa hai| vaha jise kama buddhi hotI hai use hama kaheM ki 'bhAI, aise nahIM, nahIM to dhokhA khA jAoge, aura Apa isa taraha lenaa|' para yaha to turanta zikAra hI kara DAlatA hai| hAtha meM AnA cAhie ki turanta zikAra! isalie maiMne bhArI zabda likhe haiM ki hArDa raudradhyAna ! cauthe Are taka kabhI bhI huA nahIM aisA isa pA~cave Are meM huA hai| buddhi kA durupayoga karane lage haiN| aura ye vyApArI jo haiM, ve adhika buddhivAle kama buddhivAle ko mArA hI karate haiN| adhika buddhivAlA to, kama buddhivAlA grAhaka Ae na to usake pAsa se lUTa letA hai| kama buddhivAle ke pAsa se kucha bhI lUTa lenA, bhagavAna
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________________ ahiMsA ahiMsA vApisa tAlA lagA denaa| ghara jAkara aisA kahanA ki Aja sAre dina meM nizcaya karake nikalA, phira bhI jo koI kisI ko dukha huA ho, usakI kSamAyAcanA kara letA huuN| basa ho gyaa| phira ApakI jokhimadArI hI nahIM na! ne use raudradhyAna kahA hai, aura usakA phala jabaradasta narka kahA hai| aise buddhi kA durupayoga nahIM karanA caahie| buddhi to lAiTa hai| vo lAiTa matalaba a~dhere meM jA rahe hoM, unheM lAiTa dikhAne ke bhI paise mA~gate ho Apa? aMdhere meM kisI vyakti ke pAsa fAnUsa choTA-sA ho, to hameM lAiTa nahIM dikhAnI cAhie usa becAre ko? buddhi se logoM ne durupayoga kiyA, vaha hArDa raudradhyAna, narka meM jAne se bhI chUTA nahIM jaaegaa| hArDa raudradhyAna kisI kAla meM huA nahIM, vaisA isa pA~cave Are meM calA hai| buddhi se mArate haiM kyA? Apa jAnate ho? aise buddhi se mArate haiM na, vaha bhayaMkara gunAha hai| dekho, yaha abhI bhI chor3a deMge na aura abhI taka kA pachatAvA leM aura aba naye sire se nahIM kare, to abhI bhI acchA hai| nahIM to isakA koI ThikAnA nhiiN| vaha gairajimmedArI hai| itanA karo, aura ahiMsaka bano hameM mana meM hiMsakabhAva nahIM rakhanA hai| mujhe kisI kI hiMsA karanI nahIM' aisA bhAva hI maz2abUta rakhanA aura subaha pahale bolanA cAhie ki, 'mana-vacana-kAyA se kisI jIva ko kiMcit mAtra dukha na ho|' aisA bhAva bolakara aura phira saMsArI kriyA zurU karanA, tAki jimmedArI kama ho jaae| phira apane paira se koI jIva kucalA gayA, taba bhI Apa jimmedAra nahIM haiN| kyoMki Aja ApakA bhAva nahIM hai vaisaa| ApakI kriyA bhagavAna dekhate nahIM haiM, Apake bhAva dekhate haiN| kudarata ke bahIkhAte meM to ApakA bhAva dekhate haiM aura yahA~ ki sarakAra, yahA~ ke logoM ke bahIkhAte meM ApakI kriyA dekhatI hai| logoM kA bahIkhAtA to yahIM kA yahIM par3A rahanevAlA hai| kudarata kA khAtA vahA~ kAma lgegaa| isalie ApakA bhAva kahA~ hai, usakI jA~ca kro| isalie subaha pahale aisA pA~ca bAra bolakara nikalA vaha ahiMsaka hI hai| cAhe jahA~ phira raka-jhaka kara AyA ho, taba bhI vaha ahiMsaka hai| kyoMki ghara se nikalA taba nizcaya karake nikalA thA aura phira ghara jAkara kisI jIva kI hiMsA karanI nahIM, karavAnI nahIM yA kartA ke prati anumodanA nahIM karanI aura mere mana-vacana-kAyA se kisI jIva ko dukha na ho, aisI bhAvanA rahI ki Apa ahiMsaka ho gae! vaha ahiMsA mahAvrata pUrA ho gayA kahalAtA hai| mana meM bhAvanA nizcita karI, nizcita yAnI ddisiij'n| yAnI hama jo nizcica karate haiM aura use kampalITa sinsiyara raheM, usI bAta para hI kAyama raheM, to mahAvrata kahalAtA hai aura nizcica kiyA parantu kAyama na raheM to aNuvrata kahalAtA hai| sAvadhAna ho jAo, hai viSaya meM hiMsA bhagavAna yadi kabhI viSaya kI hiMsA kA varNana kare to manuSya mara jaae| loga samajhate haiM ki isameM kyA hiMsA hai? hama kisI ko DA~Tate nahIM hai| parantu bhagavAna kI dRSTi se dekheM to hiMsA aura Asakti donoM ikaTThe hote haiM, isalie pA~coM mahAvrata TUTate haiM aura usase bahuta doSa lagatA hai| eka hI bAra ke viSaya se lAkhoM jIva mara jAte haiM, usakA doSa lagatA hai| isalie icchA na ho phira bhI usameM bhayaMkara hiMsA hai| isalie raudra svarUpa ho jAtA hai| eka viSaya ke kAraNa to sArA saMsAra khar3A rahA hai| yaha strI viSaya na ho na, to dUsare saba viSaya to kabhI bAdhaka hI nahIM hote| akele isa viSaya kA abhAva ho jAe, taba bhI devagati ho| isa viSaya kA abhAva huA ki dUsare saba viSaya, sabhI kAbU meM A jAte haiN| aura isa viSaya meM par3A ki viSaya se pahale jAnavaragati meM jAtA hai| viSaya se basa adhogati hI hai| kyoMki eka viSaya meM to kaI karor3oM jIva mara jAte haiN| samajha na ho phira bhI jokhima mola lete haiM na! isalie jaba taka saMsArIpana hai, strI viSaya hai, taba taka vaha ahiMsA
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________________ ahiMsA 87 kA ghAtaka hI hai| usameM bhI parastrI, vaha to sabase bar3A jokhima hai| parastrI ho to narka kA adhikArI hI ho gyaa| basa, dUsarA kucha bhI use DhU~DhanA nahIM aura manuSyapana phira AegA aisI AzA rakhanI hI nhiiN| yahI sabase bar3A jokhima hai| parapuruSa aura parastrI narka meM le jAnevAle haiN| aura khuda ke ghara para bhI niyama to honA cAhie na? yaha to aisA haina khuda ke haqa kI strI ke sAtha kA viSaya anucita nahIM hai, phira bhI sAtha-sAtha itanA samajhanA par3egA ki isameM bahuta sAre jarmsa (jIva) mara jAte haiN| isalie akAraNa to aisA nahIM hI honA cAhie na? kAraNa ho to bAta alaga hai| vIrya meM jarmsa hI hote haiM aura ve mAnavabIja ke hote haiM, isalie ho sake taba taka isameM dhyAna rkhnaa| yaha hama Apako saMkSepa meM kaha rahe haiN| bAkI, isakA pAra Ae nahIM na! mana se para ahiMsA dUsarI jhUThI ahiMsA mAneM, usakA artha kyA hai phira ? ahiMsA matalaba kisI ke lie kharAba vicAra bhI na aae| vaha ahiMsA kahalAtA hai| duzmana ke lie bhI kharAba vicAra na aae| duzmana ke lie bhI kaise usakA kalyANa ho, aisA vicAra Ae / kharAba vicAra AnA prakRtiguNa hai, para use palaTanA apanA puruSArtha hai| Apa samajha gae yA nahIM samajhe yaha puruSArtha kI bAta? ahiMsaka bhAvavAlA tIra mAre to z2arA bhI khUna na nikale aura hiMsaka bhAvavAlA phUla DAle taba bhI dUsare ko khUna nikalatA hai| tIra aura phUla itane iphekTiva nahIM haiM, jitanI iphekTiva bhAvanA hai| isalie hamAre ekaeka zabda meM 'kisI ko dukha na ho, kisI bhI jIva mAtra ko dukha na ho' aisA hameM niraMtara bhAva rahA karatA hai| jagat ke jIva mAtra ko isa manavacana kAyA se kiMcit mAtra bhI dukha na ho, usa bhAvanA se hI 'hamArI' vANI nikala rahI hotI hai| vastu kAma nahIM karatI, tIra kAma nahIM karatA, phUla kAma nahIM karate, para bhAva kAma karate haiN| yaha 'akrama vijJAna' to kyA kahatA hai? mana se bhI hathiyAra nahIM uThAnA hai, to phira lakar3I kisa taraha uThAI jAe? isa duniyA meM koI 88 ahiMsA bhI jIva, choTe se choTe jIva ke lie maiMne mana se hathiyAra uThAyA nahIM kabhI bhI, to phira dUsarA to uThAU~ kisa taraha? vANI z2arA sakhta nikala jAtI hai kabhI, sAlabhara meM ekAdha dina thor3I kar3aka vANI nikala jAtI hai| yaha jaise khAdI aura rezama meM pharka hotA hai na, khAdI kaisI hotI hai? vaisI thor3I sakhta vANI nikala jAtI hai kbhii| vaha bhI pUre sAla meM ekAdha dina hI / bAkI vANI se bhI aTeka nahIM kiyaa| mana se uThAyA nahIM kabhI bhI ! choTe se choTA jIva hogA, para mana se hathiyAra uThAyA nhiiN| isa varlDa meM koI bhI jIva, eka choTA jIva ho, eka bicchU abhI kATakara gayA ho, taba bhI usa para hathiyAra hamane uThAyA nahIM ! vaha to usakA farz2a nibhA kara jAtA hai| vaha farz2a nahIM nibhAe to hamArA chuTakArA nahIM ho| isalie kisI bhI jIva ke sAtha mana bigAr3A nahIM kabhI bhI, usakA vizvAsa hai ! ataH mAnasika hiMsA kabhI bhI nahIM kii| nahIM to mana kA svabhAva hai, kucha die bagaira rahatA nahIM / praznakartA: Apa to samajha gae hoMge ki isa hathiyAra kA kAma hI nhiiN| dAdAzrI : hA~, hathiyAra kAma kA hI nhiiN| isa hathiyAra kI z2arUrata hai, aisA vicAra hI nahIM aayaa| hamane talavAra jaba se jamIna para rakhI taba se uThAI nhiiN| sAmanevAlA zastradhArI ho, taba bhI hama zastra dhAraNa nahIM krte| aura aMta meM vahI rAstA lenA pdd'egaa| jise isa jagat meM se bhAga chUTanA hai, anukUla AtA nahIM, use aMta meM yahI rAstA lenA par3egA, dUsarA rAstA nahIM hai| isalie eka ahiMsA siddha kara le, to bahuta ho gyaa| saMpUrNa ahiMsA siddha kare, to vahA~ bAgha aura bakarI donoM eka sAtha pAnI pIe~ ! praznakartA: vaha to tIrthaMkaroM meM usa taraha kA hotA thA na? dAdAzrI : haaN| aura una tIrthaMkaroM kI bAta kahA~ ho ! kahA~ ve puruSa ! Aja varlDa tIrthaMkaroM ke eka vAkya ko yadi samajhA hotA, eka hI vAkya,
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________________ ahiMsA 89 to sArA varlDa pUjA krtaa| parantu vaha vAkya unakI samajha meM pahu~catA hI nahIM na! aura koI pahu~cAnevAlA bhI nahIM hai| praznakartA : Apa ho na? dAdAzrI : mere akele kI puMgI kahA~ baje? jJAnI puruSa kI ahiMsA kA pratApa jJAnI puruSa kA vyavahAra to kaisA hotA hai? itanA adhika ahiMsaka hotA hai ki bar3e-bar3e bAgha bhI zaramA jaaeN| bar3e-bar3e bAgha baiThe hoM, taba bhI ThaMDe par3a jAe, use sardI laga jAe, vAstava meM sardI laga jAe na ! kyoMki vaha ahiMsA kA pratApa hai| hiMsA kA pratApa to jagat ne dekhA hai na! ye hiTalara, carcila sabhI ke pratApa dekhe haiM na? aMta meM kyA huA? vinAza ko nyotA diyaa| hiMsA, vaha vinAzI tattva hai| aura ahiMsA, vaha avinAzI tattva hai| ahiMsA, vahA~ hiMsA nahIM praznakartA : ahiMsA ho, vahA~ hiMsA hotI hai? dAdAzrI : ahiMsA saMpUrNa ho vahA~ hiMsA nahIM hotii| vaha phira AMzika ahiMsA kahalAtI hai| parantu jo saMpUrNa ahiMsA hotI hai, usameM hiMsA hotI nhiiN| papItA kI jitanI-jitanI slAisesa kareM, ve saba papItA jaisI hI hotI haiM, usameM eka bhI kar3avI nahIM nikltii| isalie slAisa eka hI prakAra kI hotI hai, matalaba ahiMsA meM hiMsA nahIM hotii| aura saMpUrNa hiMsA ho usameM ahiMsA bhI nahIM hotii| parantu AMzika hiMsA, AMzika ahiMsA, vaha alaga cIz2a hai| praznakartA : AMzika ahiMsA, vaha dayA kahalAtI hai na? dAdAzrI : hA~, vaha dayA kahalAtI hai| vaha dayA kahalAtI hai| dayA dharma kA mUla hI hai aura dayA kI pUrNAhuti, vahA~ dharma kI pUrNAhuti hotI hai| hiMsA-ahiMsA se para praznakartA : dayA ho vahA~ nirdayatA hotI hI hai| aisA hiMsA aura ahiMsA ahiMsA ke bAre meM bhI hai? dAdAzrI : hA~ hai na! ahiMsA hai to hiMsA hai| hiMsA hai to ahiMsA khar3I rahI hai| aMta meM bhI kyA karanA hai? hiMsA meM se bAhara nikalakara ahiMsA meM AnA hai aura ahiMsA se bhI bAhara nikalanA hai| isa dvaMdva se para jAnA hai| ahiMsA, vaha bhI chor3a denI hai| praznakartA : ahiMsA se para, vaha kaunasI sthiti? dAdAzrI : vahI, abhI 'hama' hiMsA-ahiMsA se para hI haiN| ahiMsA ahaMkAra ke AdhIna hai aura ahaMkAra se para aisI yaha 'hamArI' sthiti ! hiMsA-ahiMsA maiM pAlatA hU~ usakA pAlanevAlA ahaMkAra hotA hai| isalie hiMsA aura ahiMsA se para yAnI dvaMdvI se para ho taba hI vaha jJAnI kahalAte haiN| tamAma prakAra ke dvaMdvo se pr| isalie apane sAdhu-mahArAja, ve bahuta dayAlu hote haiN| parantu nirdayatA bhI aMdara bharI huI hotI hai| dayA hai, isalie nirdayatA hai| eka kone meM bhale khUba dayA hai| assI pratizata dayA hai to bIsa pratizata nirdayatA hai| iThyAsI pratizata dayA hai to bAraha pratizata nirdytaa| chiyAnave pratizata dayA hai to cAra pratizata nirdayatA hai| praznakartA : aisA hiMsA meM bhI hotA hai| chiyAnave pratizata ahiMsA ho to cAra pratizata hiMsA hai, aisaa| dAdAzrI : kula jor3a hI dikhatA hai na! iTaselpha hI bolatA hai na! ki ahiMsA chiyAnave hai isalie rahA kyA phira? cAra hiMsA rhii| praznakartA : to vaha hiMsA kisa prakAra kI hotI hai? dAdAzrI : vaha aMtima prakAra kii| khuda jAnatA hai aura nikAla kara detA hai| jhaTapaTa vaha nikAla karake chUTa jAtA hai| jJAnI, hiMsA ke sAgara meM saMpUrNa ahiMsaka are, hameM hI loga pUchate haiM ki Apa jJAnI hokara aura moTaroM meM ghUmate haiM, to moTara ke nIce kitanI hI jIvahiMsA hotI hogI, usakI
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________________ ahiMsA jimmedArI kisakI? aba jJAnI puruSa yadi saMpUrNa ahiMsaka nahIM hoM, to jJAnI kahalAe hI kaise? saMpUrNa ahiMsaka matalaba hiMsA ke sAgara meM bhI saMpUrNa ahiNsk| ve jJAnI !! unheM kiMcit mAtra bhI hiMsA nahIM lgtii| phira hameM ve loga kahate haiM ki, 'ApakI pustaka hamane par3hI, bahuta AnaMda denevAlI hai aura avirodhAbhAsI lagatI hai, para ApakA vartana virodhAbhAsavAlA lagatA hai|' maiMne kahA, 'kauna-sA vartana virodhAbhAsavAlA lagatA hai?' taba kahate haiM, 'Apa gAr3I meM ghUmate haiM vh|' maiMne kahA, 'Apako samajhAU~, bhagavAna ne zAstra meM kyA kahA hai, vaha pahale samajhAtA hU~, phira Apa nyAya krnaa|' taba kahate haiM, 'kyA kahA hai zAstra meM?' maiMne kahA, 'AtmasvarUpa, aise jJAnI puruSa kI jimmedArI kitanI hai?! jJAnI puruSa ko deha kA mAlikIpanA nahIM hotaa| deha kA mAlikIpanA unhoMne phAr3a diyA hai| yAnI ki isa pudgala kA mAlikIpana unhoMne phAr3a diyA hai isalie khuda isake mAlika nahIM hai| aura mAlikIpanA nahIM hone se unheM doSa lagatA nahIM hai| dUsarA, jJAnI puruSa ko tyAga saMbhave nhiiN|' taba kahate haiM, 'vaha mAlikIpana kA mujhe samajha meM nahIM aayaa|' taba maiMne kahA, 'Apako aisA kisalie lagatA hai ki majhase hiMsA ho jAegI?' taba kahe, 'mere paira ke nIce jIva A jAe to mujhase hiMsA huI kahalAe na?' isalie maiMne kahA, 'yaha paira ApakA hai, isalie hiMsA hotI hai| jaba ki yaha paira merA nahIM hai| isa deha ko Aja Apako jo karanA ho vaha kara sakate ho| isa deha kA maiM mAlika nhiiN|' phira kahate haiM, 'yaha mAlikIpanA, aura na-mAlikIpanA kise kahanA cAhie, vaha hameM btaaie|' taba maiMne kahA, 'maiM Apako udAharaNa dekara samajhAtA huuN|' ahiMsA pUchavAyA ki isakA onara kauna hai? taba logoM ne kahA ki yaha to lakSmIcaMda seTha kA hai| phira phaujadAra ne pUchA ki ve kahA~ rahate haiM? taba patA calA ki usa jagaha para rahate hai| isalie pulisavAle ko bhejA ki lakSmIcaMda seTha ko pakar3akara laao| pulisavAle lakSmIcaMda seTha ke pAsa ge| taba lakSmIcaMda seTha ne kahA ki bhAI, yaha jagaha merI hai, aisA Apa kahate ho vaha ThIka hai, para maiMne to paMdraha dina pahale hI beca dI hai| Aja maiM isa jamIna kA mAlika nahIM huuN| taba unhoMne pUchA ki kise becI hai vaha kho| Apa usakA sabUta dikhaao| phira seTha ne sabUta kI nakala dikhaaii| usa nakala ko dekhakara una logoM ne jisane yaha jagaha kharIdI thI usake pAsa ge| unheM kahate haiM ki bhAI yaha jagaha Apane kharIdI hai? taba usane kahA ki hA~, maiMne lI hai| pulisavAle ne kahA ki ApakI z2amIna meM se aisA nikalA hai| taba vaha kahatA hai, para maiMne to yaha jamIna paMdraha dina pahale hI lI hai| aura yaha mAla to barasAta se pahale kA dabAyA huA lagatA hai, usameM merA kyA gunAha? taba pulisavAlA kahatA hai ki vaha hameM dekhanA nahIM hai| 'hU ija da onara nAu? Aja kauna mAlika hai?' Aja mAlikIpana nahIM to jokhimadArI nhiiN| mAlika ho to jokhima hai|" taba ve loga samajha ge| yadi paMdraha dina pahale hI liyA taba bhI jokhimadAra huA na? bAkI, aise buddhi se dekhane jAe~ to vaha barasAta se pahale se dabA huA hai| aba itanI adhika bArIkI se samajheM to niber3A aae| nahIM to niber3A hI Ae kaise? yaha to paz2ala hai| da varlDa ija da paz2ala isttelph| yaha paz2ala solva kisa taraha kI jA sakatI hai? deyara Ara TU vyU poinTsa Tu solva disa paz2ala / vana rileTiva vyU poinTa, vana riyala vyU poinTa / isa jagat meM yadi paz2ala solva nahIM kare to vaha paz2ala meM hI Disolva ho cukA hai| pUrA jagat, sabhI isa paz2ala meM Disolva ho cuke haiN| praznakartA : aise artha karake phira saba loga maz2e hI kareMge na, ki maiM mAlika nahIM, aisA? aura phira saba isa taraha kahakara durupayoga kareMge na? "eka gA~va meM eka eriyA bahuta acchA hai, AsapAsa kI dukAnoM ke bIca meM pA~ceka haz2Ara phuTa kA aisA qImatI eriyaa| usake lie kisI ne arajI kI sarakAra ko ki isa jagaha meM eksAiz2a kA mAla dabA huA hai| taba phira pulisa DipArTamenTa vahA~ gayA, barasAta bIta gaI thI isIlie usa jagaha para acchI harI jhAr3I aura paudhe uga gae the| vaha jagaha pahale khoda ddaalii| phira do-tIna phuTa gaharA khodA, taba phira aMdara se vaha eksAiz2a kA mAla sArA niklaa| taba phaujadAra ne AsapAsavAloM ko
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________________ ahiMsA dAdAzrI : mAlika nahIM aisA koI bolatA-karatA nhiiN| nahIM to abhI dhaula mAre na, to mAlika ho jAtA hai! gAlI deM taba bhI mAlika ho jAtA hai, turanta hI sAmanA karatA hai| isalie hameM samajhanA ki mAlika haiM ye| mAlika haiM yA mAlika nahIM usakA pramANa turanta hI milatA hai na! usakA TAiTala dikha hI jAtA hai ki yaha mAlika hai yA nahIM? gAlI de ki turanta hI TAiTala dikhAte haiM yA nahIM dikhAte? yAnI dera hI nahIM lgtii| bAkI aise mu~ha se boleM to kyA dina phirate haiM? praznakartA : para ye gAr3iyoM meM ghUmate haiM usameM pApa nahIM hai? dAdAzrI : yaha pApa to, nirA ye jagat hI pApamaya hai| jaba isa deha kA mAlika nahIM hogA, taba hI niSpApI hogaa| nahIM to isa deha kA mAlika hai, taba taka saba pApa hI hai| hama zvAsa lete haiM taba kitane hI jIva mara jAte haiM, aura zvAsa chor3ane ke sAtha hI kitane hI jIva mara jAte haiN| yoM hI hama calate haiM na, taba bhI kitane jIvoM ko hamase dhakkA lagatA rahatA hai aura jIva marate rahate haiN| hamane aise hAtha kiyA taba bhI jIva mara jAte haiN| yoM ve jIva dikhate nahIM. taba bhI jIva marate rahate haiN| isalie vaha saba pApa hI hai| para yaha deha, vaha maiM nahIM, aisA jaba bhAna hogA, deha kA mAlikIpana nahIM hogA, taba khuda niSpApa hogaa| maiM isa deha kA chabbIsa varSa se mAlika nhiiN| isa mana kA mAlika nahIM, vANI kA mAlika nahIM, mAlikIbhAva ke dastAveja hI phAr3a die haiM, isalie usakI jimmedArI hI nahIM na! isalie jahA~ mAlikIbhAva hai, vahA~ gunAha lAgU hotA hai| mAlikIbhAva nahIM vahA~ gunAha nahIM hai| isalie hama to saMpUrNa ahiMsaka kahalAte haiN| kyoMki AtmA meM hI rahate haiN| homa DipArTamenTa meM hI rahate haiM aura faoNrena meM hAtha DAlate hI nhiiN| isalie pUre hiMsA ke sAgara meM saMpUrNa ahiMsaka haiN| praznakartA : yaha 'jJAna' lene ke bAda ahiMsaka ho jAte haiM? dAdAzrI : yaha jJAna to maiMne Apako diyA hai ki yaha Apako puruSa ahiMsA banAyA hai| aba hamArI AjJA pAlane se hiMsA Apako chuegI nhiiN| Apa puruSArtha karo to aapkaa| puruSArtha karo to puruSottama ho jAoge, nahIM to puruSa to ho hii| isalie hamArI AjJA pAlanI, vaha puruSArtha hai| ahiMsaka ko hiMsA kaise chue? praznakartA : nau kalameM jo anubhava meM lAe, use hiMsA bAdhaka hI nahIM hotI? dAdAzrI : hA~, use bhI hiMsA bAdhaka hai| parantu nau kalameM boleM usase to abhI taka ho cukI hiMsA hotI hai, vaha dhula jAtI hai| para yaha jo pA~ca AjJA pAle na use to hiMsA chue hI nhiiN| hiMsA ke sAgara meM ghUmeM, nirA sAgara hI pUrA hiMsA kA hai| yaha hAtha U~cA kareM to kitane hI jIva mara jAte haiN| kevala jIvoM se hI bharA huA jagat hai| para hamArI pA~ca AjJA pAleM usa ghar3I isa deha meM khuda nahIM hotaa| aura deha hai vaha sthUla hone se dUsare jIvoM ko dukhadAyI bana par3atA hai| AtmA sUkSma hone se kisI ko nukasAna karatA nhiiN| isalie hamane hamArI pustaka meM sApha likhA hai ki hama hiMsA ke sAgara meM saMpUrNa ahiMsaka haiN| sAgara hai hiMsA kA, usameM hama saMpUrNa ahiMsaka hai| hamArA mana to hiMsaka hai hI nhiiN| parantu vANI z2arA hiMsaka hai thor3I jagaha para, vaha TeparikaoNrDara hai| hameM usakA mAlikIpana nahIM hai| phira bhI TeparikaoNrDara hamArA, usake jitanA gunAha hameM hai| usake pratikramaNa hamAre hote haiN| bhUla to pahale hamArI hI thI na ! hU ija da onara? taba hama kaheM ki vI Ara noTa da onr| taba kaheM ki pahale ke onara haiN| Apane bIca meM becI nahIM thI, bIca meM bika gaI hotI to alaga bAta thii| praznakartA : dAdA, ApakI ahiMsaka vANI se hama saba mahAtmA ahiMsaka bana rahe haiN| dAdAzrI : hamArI AjJA pAlo to Apa ahiMsaka ho, aisA itanA adhika suMdara kahatA hU~, phira! aura ve muzkila hoM to mujhe kaha do, badala dete haiN|
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________________ ahiMsA ahiMsA saMpUrNa ahiMsA, vahA~ prakaTe kevalajJAna isalie, dharma kauna sA U~cA ki jahA~ para sUkSma bheda se ahiMsA samajha meM AI huI ho| saMpUrNa ahiMsA, vaha kevalajJAna ! isalie hiMsA baMda ho to samajhanA ki yahA~ saccA dharma hai| hiMsA binA kA jagat hai hI nhiiN| jagat hI pUrA hiMsAmaya hai| jaba Apa khuda hI ahiMsAvAle ho jAoge, to jagat ahiMsAvAlA hogA aura ahiMsA ke sAmrAjya ke binA kabhI bhI kevalajJAna nahIM hotA, jo jAgRti hai vaha pUrI AegI nhiiN| hiMsA nAma mAtra kI bhI nahIM honI caahie| hiMsA kisakI karatA hai? ye saba paramAtmA hI haiM. sabhI jIva mAtra meM paramAtmA hI haiN| kisakI hiMsA karoge? kise dukha doge? carama ahiMsA kA vijJAna jaba taka Apako lagatA hai ki 'maiM phUla tor3atA hU~, mujhe hiMsA lagatI hai', taba taka hiMsA Apako lagegI aura aisA nahIM samajhate, use bhI hiMsA lagatI hai| para jAnakara jo tor3ate haiM phira bhI khuda svabhAva meM A cuke haiM, unheM hiMsA lagatI nahIM hai| kyoMki aisA hai na, bharata rAjA ko teraha sau rAniyoM ke sAtha, lar3AI lar3ate hue bhI jJAna rahA thaa| taba vaha adhyAtma kaisA hogA? aura ina logoM ko eka rAnI ho, taba bhI nahIM rhtaa| bharata rAjA ne RSabhadeva bhagavAna se kahA ki 'bhagavAna yaha lar3AIyA~ lar3atA hU~ aura kitane hI jIvoM kI hiMsA hotI hai, aura ye to manuSyoM kI hiMsAe~ hotI haiM, dUsare choTe jIvoM kI hiMsA huI ho to ThIka hai para yaha to manuSya hiMsA! aura hama lar3AIyA~ lar3ate haiM isalie hotI hai na!' taba bhagavAna ne kahA ki, 'yaha saba terA hisAba hai aura vaha cukAnA hai|' taba bharata rAjA kahate haiM, 'parantu mujhe bhI mokSa meM jAnA hai, mujhe koI isa taraha baiThe rahanA nahIM hai|' taba bhagavAna kahate haiM ki 'hama tujhe akrama vijJAna dete haiM, vaha tujhe mokSa meM le jaaegaa| isalie striyoM ke sAtha meM rahane ke bAvajUda, lar3AIyA~ lar3ane ke bAvajUda kucha chuegA nhiiN| nirlepa raha sake, asaMga raha sakeM aisA jJAna dete haiN|' 96 zaMkA, taba taka doSa 'isa' jJAna ke bAda khuda zuddhAtmA ho gyaa| aba daraasala zuddhAtmA samajha meM Ae to kisI bhI prakAra kI hiMsA yA kucha bhI azubha kare, vaha khuda ke guNadharma meM hai hI nhiiN| use zuddhAtmA kA lakSa pUrApUrA hai| parantu jaba taka abhI bhI khuda ko zaMkA hotI hai ki mujhe doSa baiThA hogA! jIva mujhase kucalA gayA aura mujhe doSa baiThA hai, aisI zaMkA par3atI hai, taba taka subaha pahale khuda nizcaya karake nikalanA, 'kisI jIva ko mana-vacana-kAyA se kiMcit mAtra dukha na ho', aisA pA~ca bAra bolakara nikalo, aisA 'hameM' 'caMdUbhAI' se bulavAnA hai| ataH hameM aisA z2arA kahanA hai ki caMdUbhAI, bolo, subaha pahale uThate hI, 'mana-vacana-kAyA se kisI bhI jIva ko kiMcit mAtra dukha na ho, vaha hamArI dRr3ha pratijJA hai' aura aisA 'dAdA bhagavAna' kI sAkSI meM bolakara nikale ki phira sArI javAbadArI 'dAdA bhagavAna' kii| aura yadi zaMkA na par3atI ho to use koI harja nhiiN| hameM zaMkA par3atI nahIM aura Apako zaMkA par3atI hai, vaha svAbhAvika hai| kyoMki Apako to yaha diyA huA jJAna hai| eka manuSya ne lakSmI khuda kamAI aura ikaTThI kI huI ho aura eka manuSya ko lakSmI dI huI ho, una donoM ke vyavahAra meM bahuta pharka hotA hai| asala meM jJAnI puruSa ne jo AtmA jAnA hai na, vaha AtmA to kisI ko kiMcit mAtra bhI dukha na de, aisA hai aura koI use kiMcit mAtra dukha na de, aisA vaha AtmA hai| asala meM mUla AtmA vaisA hai| vedaka-nirvedaka-svasaMvedaka eka vyakti mujhe pUcha rahA thaa| vaha mujhe kahatA hai, 'ye macchara kATate haiM, vaha kisa taraha pusAe?' taba maiMne kahA, 'dhyAna meM baitthnaa| macchara kATe to dekhnaa|' taba vaha kahatA hai, 'vaha to sahana nahIM hotaa|' taba maiMne kahA, 'aisA bolanA ki maiM nirveda huuN| aba vedaka svabhAva merA nahIM, maiM to nirveda huuN| isase thor3e aMzoM meM tU vApisa tere homa DipArTamenTa kI tarapha aaegaa| aise karate-karate aise sau-do sau bAra macchara tujhe kATeMge, aise karate-karate
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________________ ahiMsA khuda nirveda ho jaaegaa|' nirveda matalaba kyA? jAnanevAlA sirpha, ki macchara ne yahA~ para kaattaa| khuda ne vedA nahIM, vaha nirveda! vAstava meM khuda vedatA hI nahIM, parantu vedatA hai vaha pUrva abhyAsa hai| pUrva kA abhyAsa hai na, isalie vaha bolatA hai ki isane mujhe kaattaa| isalie vAstava meM khuda nirveda hI hai| parantu hameM isa satsaMga meM baiTha-baiThakara vaha pada samajha lenA hai, vaha pUrA pada samajha lenA hai ki AtmA vAstava meM aisA hai| isalie abhI hameM zuddhAtmApada se calA lenA hai| itanA bole taba bhI use karma lagane baMda ho ge| usa Aropita bhAva se chUTA yAnI karma baMdhane ruka ge| praznakartA : yaha macchara ne kATA ho, taba bhI 'maiM vedaka nahIM' kahanA? dAdAzrI : hA~, yaha Apa aise baiThe ho aura yahA~ hAtha para macchara baitthaa| isalie 'baiThA' vaha Apako pahale anubhava hotA hai| vaha Apako jAnapanA hotA hai| yaha macchara baiThA, usa ghar3I jAnapanA hotA hai yA vedakapanA hotA hai? Apako kyA lagatA hai? praznakartA : baiThA ho usa samaya to jAnapana hI hotA hai| dAdAzrI : hA~, phira vaha DaMka mAratA hai, usa ghar3I bhI jAnapanA hai, parantu phira 'mujhe macchara ne kATA, mujhe kATA' kahatA hai isalie vaha vedaka bana jAtA hai| aba vAstava meM khuda nirveda hai| isalie macchara DaMka mAre usa ghar3I hameM kahanA hai ki maiM to nirveda huuN| phira DaMka gahare jAe, taba hameM phira kahanA hai, 'maiM nirveda huuN|' praznakartA : aba Apane nirveda kI bAta karI, parantu dUsare eka zabda kA upayoga kiyA hai ki sva-saMvedana hotA hai| dAdAzrI : svasaMvedana to nahIM bolA jA sktaa| vaha to bahuta U~cI vastu hai| svasaMvedana, vaha to aMtima bAta kahalAtI hai| abhI to hameM 'maiM nirveda hU~' bolanA hai ki jisase yaha vedanA kama ho| merA kyA kahanA hai ki taba bhI vedanA ekadama jAtI nhiiN| aura svasaMvedana to 'jJAna' hI huA kahalAtA hai| use 'jAneM' hI! bhale hI DaMka lage, jabaradasta DaMka lage taba ahiMsA bhI use jAnA hI kare, vede hI nahIM, vaha svasaMvedana kahalAtA hai| praznakartA : para isa macchara ne jo kATA aura usakI jo pratikriyA huI ki 'isa macchara ne mujhe kaattaa|' usa pratikriyA ko bhI svasaMvedana meM jAnatA hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, use bhI jAnatA hai| praznakartA : para Apane kahA ki, 'maiM vedatA nahIM, vedatA nahIM' kaheM taba phira loga aisA samajhate haiM ki vedanA calI gii| dAdAzrI : nA, aisA nhiiN| vedanatA ko bhI vaha jAnatA hai| parantu itanA saba manuSyo ke basa kA nahIM hai isalie 'maiM nirveda hU~' aisA bola na, to usakA asara nahIM hogaa| 'AtmA' kA svabhAva nirveda hai| yaha boleM taba 'use' koI asara nahIM hotaa| para svasaMvedana vaha U~cI vastu hai| vaha yadi jAnatA jAegA to svasaMvedana meM jaaegaa| usameM to use jAnanA hI hai ki yaha DaMka lgaa| use bhI jaanaa| phira vaha DaMka calA gayA use bhI jaanaa| aise karate-karate svasaMvedana meM jAtA hai, para nirveda to eka sTepa hai ki becaina hue binA use sahana kara ske| praznakartA : AtmA hI svasaMvedana se jAnA jAtA hai na? dAdAzrI : AtmA khuda svasaMvedana hI hai| para Apane 'yaha' jJAna liyA hai phira bhI pichale ahaMkAra aura mamatA jAte nahIM na, abhI taka! praznakartA : svasaMvedanazIla hai, usakA darzana samagra hotA hai na? dAdAzrI : samagra hotA hai| para vaha dazA abhI to isa kAla meM nahIM ho sakatI vaisii| isalie svasaMvedana utanA kaccA rahatA hai| saMpUrNa svasaMvedana ho sakatA nahIM isa kAla meN| samagra dazA to kevalajJAna hotA hai, taba hotI lAiTa ko kIcar3a raMga sakatA hai? Apako AtmA ke prakAza kI khabara nahIM hogI? ye moTara kI lAiTa
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________________ ahiMsA kA prakAza isa bAMdrA kI khAr3I meM jAe~, to usa prakAza ko gaMdha chuegI yA nahIM chuegI? yA phira vaha prakAza hai vaha khAr3I ke raMgavAlA ho jAtA praznakartA : naa| dAdAzrI : taba kIcar3avAlA ho jAtA hai? praznakartA : naa| dAdAzrI : yaha prakAza kIcar3a ko chUtA hai, parantu kIcar3a use chUtA nhiiN| to jaba moTara kA prakAza aisA hai, to AtmA kA prakAza kaisA hogA! use kisI jagaha para lepa hI nahIM cddh'taa| isalie AtmA niraMtara nirlepa hI hotA hai, asaMga hI rahatA hai| kucha chue hI nahIM, cipake hI nahIM aisA AtmA hai| isalie AtmA to lAiTasvarUpa hai, parantu aisA lAiTa nahIM hai vh| vaha prakAza maiMne dekhA huA hai, vaisA prakAza hai| ye moTara kI lAiTa kA prakAza to dIvAra se avaruddha ho jAtA hai| dIvAra AI taba vaha prakAza avaruddha ho jAtA hai| 'vaha' prakAza dIvAra se avaruddha ho aisA nahIM hai| sirpha yaha pudgala hI aisA hai ki jisase vaha avaruddha ho jAtA hai, dIvAra se nahIM ruktaa| bIca meM pahAr3a ho taba bhI avaruddha nahIM hotA hai| praznakartA : pudgala meM kyoM avarodha hai? dAdAzrI : yaha pudgala hai na, vaha aMdara mizracetana hai| yadi jar3a hotA na to avarodhita nahIM hotaa| para yaha mizracetana hai isalie avarodha hai| praznakartA : yaha khAr3I kA aura prakAza kA udAharaNa diyA vaha bahuta hI sacoTa hai| dAdAzrI: hA~, para vaha hama kisI hI dina dete haiM, nahIM to nahIM diyA jA sktaa| yaha udAharaNa sabako nahIM diyA jA sktaa| nahIM to loka ulTe rAste car3ha jaaeN| ahiMsA na chue hiMsA, AtmasvarUpI ko aba isa ror3a para caMdramA kA ujAlA ho, to vaha Age kI lAiTa nahIM hotI, to gAr3I calAte haiM yA nahIM calAte loga? praznakartA : calAte haiN| dAdAzrI : taba use koI zaMkA nahIM pdd'tii| parantu lAiTa ho vahA~ zaMkA par3atI hai| bAhara lAiTa ho to usa ujAle meM use dikhatA hai ki ohoho itane sAre jIvajaMtu ghUma rahe haiM aura gAr3I ke sAtha TakarA rahe haiM, ve saba mara jAte haiN| para vahA~ use zaMkA hotI hai ki maiMne jIvahiMsA kii| ___ hA~, una logoM ko lAiTa nAma mAtra kI bhI nahIM hai, isalie unheM jIvajaMtu dikhate hI nhiiN| isalie unheM isa bAre meM zaMkA hI nahIM hotii| jIva kucala jAte haiM, aisA patA hI nahIM calatA na ! para jise jitanA ujAlA hotA jAtA hai, utane jIva dikhate jAte haiN| lAiTa jaise-jaise bar3hatI jAtI hai, vaise-vaise lAiTa meM jIvajaMtu dikhate jAte haiM ki jaMtu gAr3I se TakarA jAte haiM aura mara jAte haiN| aisI jAgRti bar3hatI jAe~ vaise khuda ke doSa dikhate jAte haiM, nahIM to logoM ko to khuda ke doSa dikhate hI nahIM na? AtmA vaha lAiTa svarUpa hai, prakAza svarUpa hai, usa AtmA ko chUkara kisI jIva ko kucha dukha hotA hI nhiiN| kyoMki jIvoM ke bhI ArapAra nikala jAe. AtmA aisA hai| jIva sthUla haiM aura AtmA sUkSmatama hai| vaha AtmA ahiMsaka hI hai| yadi usa AtmA meM raho to 'Apa' ahiMsaka hI ho| aura yadi deha ke mAlika banoge to hiMsaka ho| vaha AtmA jAnane jaisA hai| aisA AtmA jAna liyA. phira use kisa taraha doSa baiThe? kisa taraha hiMsA chue? isalie AtmasvarUpa hone ke bAda karma baMdhate hI nhiiN| praznakartA : phira jIvahiMsA kare taba bhI karma nahIM baMdhate? dAdAzrI : hiMsA hotI hI nahIM na! 'AtmasvarUpa' se hiMsA hI hotI nhiiN| 'AtmasvarUpa' 'jo' huA, hiMsA usase hotI hI nhiiN| isalie AtmajJAna hone ke bAda koI kAnUna chUtA nahIM hai| jaba taka
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________________ mUla gujarAtI zabdoM ke samAnArthI zabda UparI kalpa goThavaNI noMdha niyANAM ahiMsA dehAdhyAsa hai, taba taka saba kAnUna haiM aura taba taka hI saba karma chate haiN| AtmajJAna hone ke bAda kisI zAstra kA kAnUna chUtA nahIM, karma chUtA nahIM, hiMsA yA kucha bhI chUtA nhiiN| praznakartA : ahiMsAdharma kaisA hai? svayaMbhU? dAdAzrI : svayaMbhU nhiiN| parantu ahiMsA AtmA kA svabhAva hai aura hiMsA, vaha AtmA kA vibhAva hai| parantu vAstava meM svabhAva nahIM hai yh| bhItara aMdara hamezA ke lie rahanevAlA svabhAva nahIM hai yh| kyoMki aise to ginane jAe~ to sabhI bahuta svabhAva hote haiN| isalie ye saba dvaMdva haiN| isalie bAta ko hI samajhane kI z2arUrata hai| yaha 'akramavijJAna' hai| yaha vItarAgoM kA, caubIsa tIrthaMkaroM kA vijJAna hai ! para Apane sunA nahIM isalie Apako Azcarya lagatA hai ki aisA bhalA naye prakAra kA to hotA hogA? isalie bhaya ghusa jAtA hai| aura bhaya ghasa jAe taba phira kArya nahIM hotaa| bhaya chUTe to kArya ho na! vaha AtmasvarUpa to itanA sUkSma hai ki agni ke aMdara se ArapAra nikala jAe taba bhI kucha na ho| bolo aba, vahA~ para hiMsA kisa taraha chue? yaha to khuda kA svarUpa sthUla hai aisA jise dehAdhyAsa svabhAva hai, vahA~ para use hiMsA che| isalie aisA hotA ho. AtmasvarUpa ko hiMsA chUtI ho, taba to koI mokSa hI na jaae| parantu mokSa kI to bahuta suMdara vyavasthA hai| yaha to abhI Apa jisa jagaha para baiThe ho, vahA~ rahakara, ve sabhI bAteM samajhI nahIM jA sakatIM, khuda AtmasvarUpa hone ke bAda saba samajha meM A jAtA hai, vijJAna khullA ho jAtA hai! jaya saccidAnaMda dhaula silaka : baoNsa, variSTha mAlika : kAlacakra : seTiMga, prabaMdha, vyavasthA : atyaMta rAga athavA dveSa sahita lambe samaya taka yAda rakhanA, noTa karanA apanA sArA puNya lagAkara kisI eka vastu kI kAmanA karanA : hathelI se mAranA : rAhakharca, pU~jI : phajItA : satahI, Upara Upara se, suparaphluasa : kur3hana, kleza : becainI, azAMti, ghabarAhaTa : gurajanoM kI kRpA aura prasannatA : jamApUMjI : maiM hU~ aura merA hai, aisA AropaNa, merApana : bhAvukatAvAlA prema, lagAva tAyafA upalaka kar3hApA ajaMpA rAjIpA silaka potApaNuM lAgaNI
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________________ namaskAra vidhi . pratyakSa dAdA bhagavAna kI sAkSI meM, vartamAna meM mahAvideha kSetra meM vicarate tIrthaMkara bhagavAna zrI sImaMdhara svAmI ko atyaMta bhaktipUrvaka namaskAra karatA huuN| (40) pratyakSa dAdA bhagavAna kI sAkSI meM, vartamAna meM mahAvideha kSetra aura anya kSetroM meM vicarate OM parameSTI bhagavaMtoM ko atyaMta bhaktipUrvaka namaskAra karatA huuN| * pratyakSa dAdA bhagavAna kI sAkSI meM, vartamAna meM mahAvideha kSetra aura anya kSetroM meM vicarate paMca parameSTI bhagavaMtoM ko atyaMta bhaktipUrvaka namaskAra karatA huuN| pratyakSa dAdA bhagavAna kI sAkSI meM, vartamAna meM mahAvideha kSetra aura anya kSetroM meM viharamAna tIrthaMkara sAhiboM ko atyaMta bhaktipUrvaka namaskAra karatA huuN| vItarAga zAsana devI-devatAoM ko atyaMta bhaktipUrvaka namaskAra karatA huuN| * niSpakSapAtI zAsana devI-devatAoM ko atyaMta bhaktipUrvaka namaskAra karatA huuN| * caubIsa tIrthaMkara bhagavaMtoM ko atyaMta bhaktipUrvaka namaskAra karatA bhaktipUrvaka namaskAra karatA huuN| rIyala svarUpa hI bhagavat svarUpa hai, isalie sAre vizva ko bhagavat svarUpa se darzana karatA huuN| rIyala svarUpa hI zuddhAtma svarUpa hai, isalie sAre vizva ko zuddhAtma svarUpa se darzana karatA huuN| rIyala svarUpa hI tattva svarUpa hai, isalie sAre vizva ko tattvajJAna rUpa se darzana karatA huuN| nau kalameM 1. he dAdA bhagavAna ! mujhe kisI bhI dehadhArI jIvAtmA kA kiMcitmAtra bhI aham na dubhe (du:khe), na dubhAyA (duHkhAyA) jAye yA dubhAne (duHkhAne) ke prati anumodanA na kI jAye, aisI parama zakti do| mujhe kisI dehadhArI jIvAtmA kA kiMcitmAtra bhI aham na dubhe, aisI syAdvAda vANI, syAdvAda vartana aura syAdvAda manana karane kI parama zakti do| 2. he dAdA bhagavAna ! mujhe kisI bhI dharma kA kiMcitmAtra bhI pramANa na dubhe, na dubhAyA jAye yA dubhAne ke prati anumodanA na kI jAye, aisI parama zakti do| mujhe kisI bhI dharma kA kiMcitmAtra bhI pramANa na dubhAyA jAye aisI syAdvAda vANI, syAvAda vartana aura syAdvAda manana karane kI parama zakti do| 3. he dAdA bhagavAna ! mujhe kisI bhI dehadhArI upadezaka sAdhu, sAdhvI yA AcArya kA avarNavAda, aparAdha, avinaya na karane kI parama zakti do| 4. he dAdA bhagavAna ! mujhe kisI bhI dehadhArI jIvAtmA ke prati kiMcitmAtra bhI abhAva, tiraskAra kabhI bhI na kiyA jAye, na karavAyA jAye yA kartA ke prati na anumodita kiyA jAye, aisI parama zakti do| 5. he dAdA bhagavAna ! mujhe kisI bhI dehadhArI jIvAtmA ke sAtha kabhI bhI kaThora bhASA, taMtIlI bhASA na bolI jAye, na bulavAI jAye yA bolane ke prati anumodanA na kI jAye, aisI parama zakti do| * zrI kRSNa bhagavAna ko atyaMta bhaktipUrvaka namaskAra karatA huuN| . bharata kSetra meM hAla vicarate sarvajJa zrI dAdA bhagavAna ko nizcaya se atyaMta bhaktipUrvaka namaskAra karatA huuN| dAdA bhagavAna ke sarva samakitadhArI mahAtmAoM ko atyaMta bhaktipUrvaka namaskAra karatA huuN| * sAre brahmAMDa ke samasta jIvoM ke riala svarUpa ko atyaMta
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________________ koI kaThora bhASA, taMtIlI bhASA boleM to mujhe mRdu-Rju bhASA bolane kI zakti do| 6. he dAdA bhagavAna ! mujhe kisI bhI dehadhArI jIvAtmA ke prati strI, puruSa yA napuMsaka, koI bhI liMgadhArI ho, to usake saMbaMdha meM kiciMtamAtra bhI viSaya-vikAra saMbaMdhI doSa, icchAe~, ceSTAe~ yA vicAra saMbaMdhI doSa na kiye jAyeM, na karavAye jAyeM yA kartA ke prati anumodanA na kI jAye, aisI parama zakti do| mujhe niraMtara nirvikAra rahane kI parama zakti do| 7. he dAdA bhagavAna ! mujhe kisI bhI rasa meM lubdhatA na ho aisI zakti do| samarasI AhAra lene kI parama zakti do| 8. he dAdA bhagavAna ! mujhe kisI bhI dehadhArI jIvAtmA kA pratyakSa athavA parokSa, jIvita athavA mRta, kisI kA kiMcitmAtra bhI avarNavAda, aparAdha, avinaya na kiyA jAye, na karavAyA jAye yA kartA ke prati anumodanA na kI jAyeM, aisI parama zakti do| 9. he dAdA bhagavAna ! mujhe jagata kalyANa karane meM nimitta banane kI parama zakti do, zakti do, zakti do| (itanA Apa dAdA bhagavAna se mA~gA kreN| yaha pratidina yaMtravat par3hane kI cIz2a nahIM hai, hRdaya meM rakhane kI cIz2a hai| yaha pratidina upayogapUrvaka bhAvanA karane kI cIz2a hai| itane pATha meM samasta zAstroM kA sAra A jAtA hai|) __ pratikramaNa vidhi pratyakSa dAdA bhagavAna kI sAkSI meM, dehadhArI (jisake prati doSa huA ho, usa vyakti kA nAma) ke mana-vacana-kAyA ke yoga, bhAvakarma-dravyakarmanokarma se bhinna aise he zuddhAtmA bhagavAna, ApakI sAkSI meM, Aja dina taka mujhase jo jo ** doSa hue haiM, usake lie kSamA mA~gatA huuN| hRdayapUrvaka bahuta pazcAtApa karatA huuN| mujhe kSamA kreN| aura phira se aise doSa kabhI bhI nahIM karU~, aisA dRr3ha nizcaya karatA huuN| usake lie mujhe parama zakti dIjie, zakti dIjie, zakti diijie| ** krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha, viSaya-vikAra, kaSAya Adi se kisI ko bhI du:kha pahu~cAyA ho, usa doSo ko mana meM yAda kreN| prAptisthAna dAdA bhagavAna parivAra aDAlaja : trimaMdira saMkula, sImaMdhara siTI, ahamadAbAda-kalola hAIve, posTa : aDAlaja, jilA : gAMdhInagara, gujarAta - 382421. phona : (079) 39830100, email : info@dadabhagwan.org ahamadAbAda : dAdA darzana, 5, mamatApArka sosAiTI, navagujarAta kaoNleja ke pIche, usmAnapurA, ahamadAbAda-380014. phona : (079)27540408, 27543979 rAjakoTa : trimaMdira, ahamadAbAda-rAjakoTa hAIve, taraghar3iyA cokar3I, posTa : mAliyAsaNa, jilA : rAjakoTa, phona : 9924343478 bhuja trimaMdira, hila gArDana ke pIche. sahayoganagara ke pAsa. eyaraporTa roDa, bhuja (kaccha), gujarAta. saMparka : 02832 236666 muMbaI : 9323528901 puNe : 9822037740 var3odarA : (0265)2414142 beMgalUra : 9341948509 kolakatA : 033-32933885 U.S.A. : Dada Bhagwan Vignan Institue : Dr. Bachu Amin, 100, SW Redbud Lane, Topeka, Kansas 66606. Tel: 785-271-0869, E-mail : bamin@cox.net Dr. Shirish Patel, 2659, Raven Circle, Corona,CA92882, Tel.:951-734-4715, E-mail:shirishpatel@sbcglobal.net U.K. : Dada Centre, 236, Kingsbury Road, (Above Kingsbury Printers), Kingsbury, London, NW9 0BH, Tel.: 07956476253, E-mail:dadabhagwan_uk@yahoo.com Canada : Dinesh Patel, 4, Halesia Drive, Etobicock, Toronto, M9W6B7. Tel.:4166753543 E-mail: ashadinsha@yahoo.ca Canada : +1416-675-3543 Australia : +61421127947 Dubai : +971506754832 Singapore : +65 81129229 Website : www.dadabhagwan.org, www.dadashri.org