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________________ dAdA bhagavAna kathita vANI, vyavahAra meM... The world is the puzzle itself. yaha to orIjinala TeparikaoNrDara hai| bhugate usakI bhUla! yaha bagaira mAlikIbhAva kI vANI hai ! huA so nyAya! God has not created this world at all. hamArI vANI cetana ko sparza karake nikalI haI pratyakSa sarasvatI hai| ISBN 978-81-80031602 97881891933692
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________________ dAdA bhagavAna kathita prakAzaka : ajIta sI. paTela mahAvideha phAunDezana 'dAdA darzana', 5, mamatApArka sosAiTI, navagujarAta kaoNleja ke pIche, usmAnapurA, ahamadAbAda - 380014, gujarAta phona - (079) 27540408, 27543979 vANI, vyavahAra meM... All Rights reserved - Shri Deepakbhai Desai Trimandir, Simandhar City, Ahmedabad-Kalol Highway, Post - Adalaj, Dist.-Gandhinagar-382421, Gujarat, India. prathama saMskaraNa : 3000 pratiyA~, aktUbara 2010 mUla gujarAtI pustaka 'vANI, vyavahAramA...' (saMkSipta ) kA hindI anuvAda bhAva mUlya : 'parama vinaya' aura 'maiM kucha bhI jAnatA nahIM', yaha bhAva! dravya mUlya : 20 rupaye lesara kampoz2a : dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezana, ahamadAbAda mUla gujarAtI saMkalana : DaoN. nIrUbahana amIna anuvAda : mahAtmAgaNa mudraka : mahAvideha phAunDezana (prinTiMga DivIz2ana), pArzvanAtha caimbarsa, naI riz2arva baiMka ke pAsa, usmAnapurA, ahamadAbAda-380014. phona : (079) 27542964, 30004823
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________________ samarpaNa dAdA vANI kA kyA kahanA ahA! phor3a pAtAla bahA jharanA yahA~! lAkhoM ke dila meM jAkara samAI, par3he-sune jo kare mokSa kmaaii| pAvara gaz2aba kA AtyAMtika kalyANI, saMsAra vyavahAra meM bhI hitkaarinnii| nija bAnI ko vItarAga TeparikaoNrDa kaheM, khuda ke bola se aho! khuda judA rhe| kalikAla meM nahIM kabhI sunAI dI, bezaqImatI magara bina mAlikI kii| trimaMtra cAra DigrI hai kama, para binA bhUla kI, tIrthaMkarI syAdavAda kI kamI pUrNa kii| sabhI tIrthaMkaroM ne mAnA jise pramANa, jagI jyota akrama hare tama ttkaal| vAdI-prativAdI nirvirodha svIkAra leM, jJAnI vacana bala jJAnAvaraNa vidAra deN| ghara-ghara pahu~cakara jagAegI AptavANI par3hate hI bole, merI hI bAta, mere hI jnyaanii| tamAma rahasya yahA~ hI khule vANI ke, samarpita saMsAra ko siddhAMta vANI ke| jaya saccidAnaMda
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________________ dAdA bhagavAna kauna ? jUna 1958 kI eka saMdhyA kA karIba chaH baje kA samaya, bhIr3a | se bharA sUrata zahara kA relve sTezana, pleTaphArma naM. 3 kI beMca para baiThe zrI aMbAlAla mUlajIbhAI paTela rUpI dehamaMdira meM kudaratI rUpa se, akrama rUpa meM, kaI janmoM se vyakta hone ke lie Atura 'dAdA bhagavAna' pUrNa rUpa se prakaTa hue aura kudarata ne sarjita kiyA adhyAtma kA adbhuta aashcry| eka ghaMTe meM unheM vizvadarzana huaa| 'maiM kauna? bhagavAna kauna? jagat kauna calAtA hai? karma kyA? mukti kyA?' ityAdi jagat ke sAre AdhyAtmika praznoM ke saMpUrNa rahasya prakaTa hue| isa taraha kudarata | ne vizva ke sammukha eka advitIya pUrNa darzana prastuta kiyA aura usake | mAdhyama bane zrI aMbAlAla mUlajIbhAI paTela, gujarAta ke carotara kSetra | ke bhAdaraNa gA~va ke pATIdAra, kAnTrekTa kA vyavasAya karanevAle, phira bhI pUrNatayA vItarAga puruSa ! unheM prApti huI, usI prakAra kevala do hI ghaMToM meM anya mumukSu | janoM ko bhI ve AtmajJAna kI prApti karavAte the, unake adbhuta siddha hue jJAnaprayoga se use akrama mArga kahA / akrama, arthAt binA krama ke, aura krama arthAt sIr3hI dara sIr3hI, kramAnusAra Upara cddh'naa| akrama arthAt liphTa mArga, zaoNrTa kaTa ! ve svayaM pratyeka ko 'dAdA bhagavAna kauna ?' kA rahasya batAte hue kahate the ki "yaha jo Apako dikhate hai ve dAdA bhagavAna nahIM hai, ve to 'e. ema. paTela' hai| hama jJAnI puruSa haiM aura bhItara prakaTa hue haiM, | ve 'dAdA bhagavAna' haiN| dAdA bhagavAna to caudaha loka ke nAtha haiN| ve Apa meM bhI haiM, sabhI meM haiN| ApameM avyakta rUpa meM rahe hue haiM aura 'yahA~' hamAre bhItara saMpUrNa rUpa se vyakta hue haiN| dAdA bhagavAna ko maiM bhI namaskAra karatA huuN|" 'vyApAra meM dharma honA cAhie, dharma meM vyApAra nahIM, isa siddhAMta se unhoMne pUrA jIvana bitaayaa| jIvana meM kabhI bhI unhoMne kisI ke pAsa ( se paisA nahIM liyA balki apanI kamAI se bhaktoM ko yAtrA karavAte the| 4 AtmajJAna prApti kI pratyakSa liMka 'maiM to kucha logoM ko apane hAthoM siddhi pradAna karanevAlA huuN| pIche anugAmI cAhie ki nahIM cAhie? pIche logoM ko mArga to cAhie na?" - dAdAzrI parama pUjya dAdAzrI gA~va-gA~va, deza-videza paribhramaNa karake mumukSu janoM ko satsaMga aura AtmajJAna kI prApti karavAte the / ApazrI ne apane jIvanakAla meM hI pUjya DaoN. nIrUbahana amIna (nIrUmA~) ko AtmajJAna prApta karavAne kI jJAnasiddhi pradAna kI thiiN| dAdAzrI ke dehavilaya pazcAt nIrUmA~ vaise hI mumukSujanoM ko satsaMga aura AtmajJAna kI prApti, nimitta bhAva se karavA rahI thii| pUjya dIpakabhAI desAI ko dAdAzrI ne satsaMga karane kI siddhi pradAna kI thii| nIrUmA~ kI upasthiti meM hI unake AzIrvAda se pUjya dIpakabhAI deza-videzo meM kaI jagahoM para jAkara mumukSuoM ko AtmajJAna karavA rahe the, jo nIrUmA~ ke dehavilaya pazcAt Aja bhI jArI hai| isa AtmajJAnaprApti ke bAda haz2AroM mumukSu saMsAra meM rahate hue, jimmedAriyA~ nibhAte hue bhI mukta rahakara AtmaramaNatA kA anubhava karate haiN| graMtha meM mudrita vANI mokSArthI ko mArgadarzana meM atyaMta upayogI siddha hogI, lekina mokSaprApti hetu AtmajJAna prApta karanA z2arUrI hai| akrama mArga ke dvArA AtmajJAna kI prApti kA mArga Aja bhI khulA hai| jaise prajvalita dIpaka hI dUsarA dIpaka prajvalita kara sakatA hai, usI prakAra pratyakSa AtmajJAnI se AtmajJAna prApta kara kehI svayaM kA AtmA jAgRta ho sakatA hai| 5
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________________ saMpAdakIya subaha jAgane se lekara sone taka hara kisIkA avirata vANI kA vyavahAra calatA hI rahatA hai| are, nIMda meM bhI kitane to bar3abar3Ate rahate haiM!!! vANI kA vyavahAra do prakAra se pariNamita hotA hai| kar3avA yA phira mIThA! mIThA to cAva se gale utara jAtA hai, para kar3avA gale nahIM utaratA! kar3ave-mIThe donoM meM samabhAva rahe, donoM hI samAna prakAra se utara jAe~, vaisI samajha jJAnI dete hI rahate haiM ! isa kAla ke adhIna vyavahAra meM vANI saMbaMdhita tamAma spaSTIkaraNa parama pUjya dAdAzrI ne die haiN| unheM lAkhoM prazna pUche gae haiM, sabhI prakAra ke, sthUlatama se lekara sUkSmatama taka ke, Ter3he-mer3he, sIdhe-ulTe tamAma prakAra se pache gae haiM, phira bhI usI kSaNa saTIka aura saMpUrNa samAdhAnakArI uttara dete the| ApazrI kI vANI meM prema, karuNA aura saccAI kA saMgama chalakatA huA dikhatA hai! nivedana parama pUjya 'dAdA bhagavAna' ke praznottarI satsaMga meM pache gaye prazna ke uttara meM unake zrImukha se adhyAtma tathA vyavahAra jJAna saMbaMdhI jo vANI nikalI, usako rikaoNrDa karake, saMkalana tathA saMpAdana karake pustakoM ke rUpa meM prakAzita kiyA jAtA haiN| usI sAkSAta sarasvatI kA adbhuta saMkalana isa pustaka meM huA hai, jo hama sabake lie varadAnarUpa sAbita hogii| prastuta anuvAda kI vAkya racanA hindI vyAkaraNa ke mApadaNDa para zAyada pUrI na utare, parantu pUjya dAdAzrI kI gujarAtI vANI kA zabdaza: hindI anuvAda karane kA prayatna kiyA gayA hai, tAki vAcaka ko aisA anubhava ho ki dAdAjI kI hI vANI sunI jA rahI hai| phira bhI dAdAzrI ke AtmajJAna kA sahI Azaya, jyoM kA tyoM to, Apako gujarAtI bhASA meM hI avagata hogaa| jinheM jJAna kI gaharAI meM jAnA ho, jJAna kA sahI marma samajhanA ho, ve isa hetu gujarAtI bhASA sIkheM, aisA hamArA anurodha hai| anuvAda saMbaMdhI kamiyoM ke lie Apase kSamAprArthI haiN| pAThakoM se... * isa pustaka meM mudrita pAThyasAmagrI mUlata: gujarAtI vANI, vyavahAramA...' (saMkSipta) kA hindI anuvAda hai| isa pustaka meM 'AtmA' zabda kA prayoga saMskRta aura gujarAtI bhASA kI taraha pulliMga meM kiyA gayA hai| * jahA~-jahA~ para 'caMdUlAla' nAma kA prayoga kiyA gayA hai, vahA~-vahA~ pAThaka svayaM kA nAma samajhakara paThana kreN| pustaka meM agara koI bAta Apa samajha na pAe~ to pratyakSa satsaMga meM padhArakara samAdhAna prApta kreN| * dAdAzrI ke zrImukha se nikale kucha gajarAtI zabda jyoM ke tyoM 'iTAliksa' meM rakhe gaye haiM, kyoMki una zabdoM ke lie hindI meM aisA koI zabda nahIM hai, jo usakA pUrNa artha de ske| hAlA~ki una zabdoM ke samAnArthI zabda () meM artha ke rUpa meM diye gaye haiN| aise sabhI zabda aura zabdArtha pustaka ke aMta meM bhI die gae haiN| parama pUjya dAdAzrI hamezA jo ho use prema se kahate the. 'pacho, pUcho, Apake tamAma khulAse prApta karake kAma nikAla lo|' Apako samajha meM nahIM Ae to bAra-bAra pUcho, pUrNa samAdhAna na ho jAe taba taka avirata pUchate hI raho, binA saMkoca ke! aura Apako samajha meM nahIM Ae usameM ApakI bhUla nahIM hai, samajhAnevAle kI apUrNatA hai, kamI hai| hama yaha kahakara ApakA prazna nahIM ur3A sakate ki, 'yaha bahuta sUkSma bAta hai, Apako samajha meM nahIM aaegii|' aisA kareM, vaha to kapaTa kiyA kahalAegA! khuda ke pAsa javAba nahIM ho, use phira sAmanevAle kI samajha kI kamI batAkara ur3A detA hai! dAdA ko sunA ho yA phira unakI vANI paDhI ho. sUkSmatA se use mana-vacana-kAyA kI ekatAvAle, kathanI ke sAtha karaNIvAle daraasala jJAnI kI imeja (prabhAva) paDe binA nahIM rahatI! use phira dUsarI aura sabhI jagahoM para nakalI imeja hai, aisA bhI lage binA nahIM rahatA! prastuta 'vANI, vyavahAra meM...' pastaka meM vANI se utpanna honevAle TakarAva aura usameM kisa prakAra samAdhAnakArI hala lAne cAhie. vaise hI khuda kI kar3avI vANI, AghAtI vANI ho, to use kisa prakAra kI samajha
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________________ anukramaNikA se parivartita karanA cAhie? kisI ke prati eka negeTiva zabda bole to usake riekzana meM khuda para kyA asara hogA? vANI se tiraskAra karanA, vANI ko hI aise kisa prakAra se mor3anA ki tiraskAra ke ghAva bhara jAe~? vANI ke sUkSma se sUkSma saiddhAMtika spaSTIkaraNoM se lekara dainika jIvana vyavahAra meM pati-patnI ke bIca, mA~-bApa-baccoM ke bIca, naukara -seTha ke bIca, jo vANI upayoga meM AtI hai, vaha kaisI samyak prakAra kI honI cAhie, usake prekTikala udAharaNa dekara saMdara samAdhAna karavAte haiN| ve udAharaNa samajho apane hI jIvana kA darpaNa ho aisA lagatA hai! hRdaya ke pAra utarakara mukta karAtI hai! yathArtha jJAnI ko pahacAnanA ati-ati muzkila hai| hIre ko parakhane ke lie jauharI kI dRSTi cAhie, vaise hI dAdA ko pahacAnane ke lie pakke mumukSu kI dRSTi vikasita karanI z2arUrI hai! AtmArtha ke alAvA anya kisI cIz2a ke lie nahIM nikalI, vaisI jJAnI kI syAdavAda vANI yugoM-yugoM taka mokSamArga ke patha ko prakAzita karatI rhegii| vaisI jabaradasta vacanabalavAlI, yaha nizcaya-vyavahAra donoM ko pratipAdita karatI vANI pravAhita huI hai, jisakA vyavasthita abhyAsa karake svarUpa kI prApti avazya kI jA sakatI hai, eka ghaMTe meM hI!!! (1) duHkhadAyI vANI ke svarUpa (2) vANI se tarachor3a - aMtarAya (3) zabdoM se sarjita adhyavasana... (4) du:khadAyI vANI ke samaya, samAdhAna ! (5) vANI, hai hI TeparikaoNrDa (6) vANI ke saMyoga, para-parAdhIna (7) saca-jhUTha meM vANI kharca huI (8) duHkhadAyI vANI ke karane cAhie pratikramaNa (9) vigraha, pati-patnI meM (10) pAlo - poso 'paudhe' isa taraha, bagIce meM... (11) maz2Aka ke jokhima.... (12) madhurI vANI ke, kAraNoM kA aise kareM sevana - DaoN. nIrubahana amIna ke jaya saccidAnaMda
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM... jAeMge, taba jagat baMda ho jaaegaa| sArI lar3AIyA~ zabda se hI huI haiM isa duniyA meM, jo bhI huI haiM ve! zabda mIThe cAhie aura zabda mIThe nahIM hoM to bolanA nhiiN| are, jhagar3A kiyA ho apane sAtha, unake sAtha bhI hama mIThA boleM na, to dUsare dina eka ho jAe~ vaapis| vANI, vyavahAra meM... 1. duHkhadAyI vANI ke svarUpa praznakartA : yaha jIbha aisI hai ki ghar3I meM aisA bola letI hai, ghar3I meM vaisA bola letI hai| dAdAzrI : aisA hai na, isa jIbha meM aisA doSa nahIM hai| yaha jIbha to aMdara ve battIsa dA~ta haiM na, unake sAtha rahatI hai, rAta-dina kAma karatI hai| para lar3atI nahIM hai, jhagar3atI nahIM hai| isalie jIbha to bahuta acchI hai, para hamaloga Ter3he haiN| Apa orgenAijara Ter3he haiN| bhUla apanI hai| isalie jIbha to bahuta acchI hai, ina battIsa dA~toM ke bIca meM rahatI hai to kabhI bhI vaha kucala jAtI hai? vaha kaTatI hai kaba? ki apanA citta khAte samaya dUsarI jagaha para gayA ho taba z2arA kaTa jAtI hai| aura hama yadi TeDhe hoM, to hI citta dusare meM jAtA hai| nahIM to citta dasare meM nahIM jAtA, aura jIbha to bahuta acchA kAma karatI hai| orgenAijara ne aise Ter3hA dekhA ki jIbha dA~ta ke bIca meM Akara kucala jAtI hai| praznakartA : merA jIbha para kAbU ho vaisA kIjie na! kyoMki maiM adhika bolatA huuN| dAdAzrI : vaha to maiM bhI bolatA hI rahatA hU~ pUre dina / Apake bolane meM koI aisA vAkya nahIM hai na, ki kisIko du:khadAyI ho jAe vaisA? taba taka bolanA kharAba nahIM khlaataa| praznakartA : para ina zabdoM para se bahuta jhagar3e hote haiN| dAdAzrI : zabdoM se to jagat khar3A ho gayA hai| jaba zabda baMda ho sAmane bar3I umravAlA ho na, to bhI use kaheMge, 'ApameM akkala nahIM hai|' inakI akkala nApane nikale! aisA bolA jAtA hogA? phira jhagar3e hI hoMge na! para aisA nahIM bolanA cAhie, sAmanevAle ko du:kha ho vaisA ki 'ApameM akkala nahIM hai|' sAmAnya manuSya to nAsamajhI ke mAre aisA bolakara jimmedArI svIkAratA hai| para samajhadAra hoM, ve to khada aisI jimmedArI lete hI nahIM na! nAsamajhIvAlA ulTA bole para khuda ko sIdhA bolanA caahie| sAmanevAlA to nAsamajhI se cAhe jo pUche, para khuda ko ulTA nahIM bolanA caahie| jimmedAra hai khud| sAmanevAle ko 'Apa nahIM samajhoge' aisA kahanA, vaha bahuta bar3A jJAnAvaraNa karma hai| Apa nahIM samajhoge vaisA nahIM kaha skte| para 'Apako samajhAU~gA' aisA kahanA caahie| Apa nahIM samajhoge' kaheM to, sAmanevAle ke kaleje para ghAva lagatA hai| hama sukha meM baiThe hoM aura thor3A koI Akara kahe, 'ApameM akkala nahIM hai|' itanA bole ki ho gayA, khatama! aba usane koI patthara mArA hai? zabda kA hI asara hai jagat meN| chAtI para ghAva lage, vaha sau-sau janmoM taka nahIM jaataa| chAtI para ghAva lagA hai, aisA bole ho', kheNge| asara hI hai yaha ! jagat zabda ke asara se hI khar3A huA hai| kitanI hI bahaneM mujhe kahatI haiM, 'mere pati ne mujhe kahA thA, usase merI chAtI para ghAva lagA hai| vaha mujhe paccIsa varSoM bAda bhI bhalA nahIM jaataa|' taba vANI se kaisA patthara mArA hogA?! jo ghAva phira bharate nahIM haiN| vaise ghAva nahIM lagAne caahie|
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM... huuN| bAqI sUkSma kalA hai yh| yaha kaThora zabda kahA, to usakA phala kitane samaya taka Apako usake spaMdana lagate rheNge| eka bhI apazabda apane mu~ha se nahIM nikalanA caahie| suzabda honA caahie| para apazabda nahIM honA caahie| aura ulTA zabda nikalA matalaba khuda ke bhItara bhAvahiMsA ho gaI, vaha AtmahiMsA mAnI jAtI hai| aba yaha sArA loka cUka jAte haiM aura pUre dina kleza hI karate vANI, vyavahAra meM... apane loga lakar3iyA~ mArate haiM ghara meM? lakar3iyA~ yA dhaula nahIM mArate? nIcI jAti meM hAtha se yA lakar3I se mArAmArI karate haiN| U~cI jAti meM lakar3I se nahIM mArate, para vacanabANa hI mArate rahate haiN| zabda kisIse boleM aura use kharAba lage to vaha zabda apazabda kahalAtA hai| vaha akAraNa hI apazabda bolatA ho na, to bhI jokhima hai| aura acche zabda akAraNa bolatA ho to bhI hitakArI hai| para galata zabda. apazabda akAraNa hI bolate hoM, vaha ahitakArI hai| kyoMki apazabda kise kahA jAtA hai? dUsaroM ko kaheM, aura use duHkha ho ve sAre hI apazabda kahalAte haiN| bAhara to pulisavAle ko to kucha kahate nahIM, ghara meM hI kahate haiM na! pulisavAle ko apazabda kahanevAlA aisA koI bahAdura maiMne dekhA nahIM hai (!) pulisavAlA to hameM pATha par3hAtA hai| ghara meM pATha kauna par3hAegA? hameM nayA pATha to sIkhanA cAhie na?! praznakartA : vyApAra meM sAmanevAlA vyApArI jo hotA hai, vaha nahIM samajhe aura apane se krodhAveza ho jAe, to kyA karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : vyApArI ke sAtha to mAno ki vyApAra ke lie hai, vahA~ to bolanA par3atA hai| vahA~ bhI 'nahIM bolane' kI kalA hai| vahA~ nahIM boleM to sArA kAma ho jAe vaisA hai| para vaha kalA jaldI A jAe vaisI nahIM hai, vaha kalA bahuta U~cI hai| isalie vahA~ para lar3anA na, aba vahA~ jo phAyadA (!) ho vaha dekha lenA, use phira jamA kara lenaa| lar3ane ke bAda jo phAyadA (!) hotA hai na, vaha hisAba meM jamA kara lenA caahie| bAqI ghara meM bilakula jhagar3anA nhiiN| gharavAle to apane loga kahalAte haiN| 'nahIM bolane' kI kalA, vaha to dUsaroM ko Ae aisI nahIM hai| bahuta kaThina hai vaha klaa| usa kalA meM to kyA karanA par3atA hai? 'vaha to sAmanevAlA Ae na, usase pahale usake zuddhAtmA ke sAtha bAtacIta kara lenI cAhie aura use zAMta kara denA cAhie, aura usake bAda hameM bole binA rahanA caahie| isase apanA sArA kAma pUrA ho jaaegaa|' maiM Apako saMkSepa meM kaha detA ye zabda jo nikalate haiM na, ve zabda do prakAra ke haiM, isa duniyA meM zabda jo haiM unakI do kvaoNliTI haiN| acche zabda zarIra ko nirogI banAte haiM aura kharAba zabda zarIra ko rogI banAte haiN| isalie zabda bhI ulTA nahIM nikalanA caahie| 'eya... naalaayk|' aba 'eya...' zabda hAnikAraka nahIM hai| para 'nAlAyaka' zabda bahuta hAnikAraka hai| _ 'tujhameM akkala nahIM hai' aisA kahA vAipha ko, vaha zabda sAmanevAle ko duHkhadAyI hai aura khuda ko roga khar3A karanevAlA hai| taba vaha kahegI, 'ApameM kahA~ barakata hai!' to donoM ko roga utpanna hote haiN| yaha to patnI barakata DhUMDhatI hai aura pati usakI akkala DhUMDhatA hai| yahI kI yahI dazA hai sArI! isalie apanA striyoM ke sAtha kucha jhagar3A nahIM honA cAhie aura striyoM ko puruSoM ke sAtha jhagar3A nahIM karanA caahie| kyoMki baMdhanavAle haiN| isalie niber3A le AnA caahie| eka bahana ko to maiMne pUchA, 'pati ke sAtha siraphor3I-jhagar3A hotA hai kyA? kleza hotA hai kyA?' taba vaha kahatI hai, 'nahIM, kabhI bhI nhiiN|' maiMne kahA, 'varSa meM ekAdha bAra kleza hI nahIM?' taba vaha kahatI hai, 'nhiiN|' maiM to yaha sunakara Azcaryacakita ho gayA ki hindustAna meM aise ghara haiM ! para ve bahana vaisI thiiN| isalie phira maiMne Age pachA ki, 'kucha to hotA hogaa| pati hai isalie kucha hue binA rahatA nhiiN|' taba vaha kahatI hai, 'nahIM, kisI dina tAnA mArate haiN|' gadhe ko DaMDA jamAnA aura strI ko tAnA maarnaa| strI
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM... ko DaMDA nahIM mAra sakate para tAnA mArate haiN| tAnA Apane dekhA hai na? tAnA mArate haiM ! taba maiMne kahA, 'vaha tAnA mAre to Apa kyA karatI ho?' taba ve bahana kahatI haiM, 'maiM kahatI hU~ ki Apa aura maiM karma ke udaya se donoM mile haiM, karma ke udaya se vivAha huaa| Apake karma Apako bhogane haiN| aura mere karma mujhe bhogane haiN|' maiMne kahA, 'dhanya hai bahana tujhe !' hamAre hindustAna meM aisI Arya striyA~ abhI bhI haiN| ve satI kahalAtI hai| ye saba mile kisalie haiM? hameM pasaMda nahIM ho to bhI sAtha meM kisalie par3e rahanA par3atA hai? vaha karma karavAtA hai| puruSa ko nApasaMda ho to bhI kahA~ jAe? para use mana meM samajha jAnA cAhie ki, 'mere karma ke udaya haiN|' aisA mAnakara zAMti rakhanI caahie| vAipha kA doSa nahIM nikAlanA caahie| kyA karanA hai doSa nikAlakara ? doSa nikAlakara koI sukhI huA hai? koI sukhI hotA hai kyA? aura mana zora macAtA hai, 'kitanA sArA bola gaI, kyA se kyA ho gyaa|' taba kaheM, 'so jA na, abhI ghAva bhara jAegA' kheN| ghAva bhara jAtA hai turanta... hai na, usake kaMdhe thapathapAe~ to so jAtA hai| praznakartA: vANI kA apavyaya aura durvyaya samajhAie / dAdAzrI : apavyaya matalaba vANI kA ulTA upayoga karanA aura durvyaya matalaba vyaya nahIM karane jaisI jagaha para vyaya karanA / binA kAma ke bhauMkatA rahe, vaha durvyaya kahalAtA hai| Apane dekhA hai? binA kAma ke bhauMkate haiM vaise hote haiM na? vaha duvyarya kahalAtA hai| jahA~ jo vANI honI cAhie vahA~ dUsarI hI vANI bolanI, vaha apavyaya kahalAtA hai| jo jahA~ phiTa hotA ho, vaha jJAna nahIM bolanA aura dUsarI prakAra se bolanA, vaha apavyaya hai| jhUTha bole, prapaMca kare, vaha sArA vANI kA apavyaya kahalAtA hai| vANI ke durvyaya aura apavyaya meM bahuta pharka hai| apavyaya matalaba sabhI prakAra se nAlAyaka, sabhI prakAra se durupayoga karatA hai| vakIla do rupaye 6 vANI, vyavahAra meM... ke lie jhUTha bolate haiM ki 'hA~, ise maiM pahacAnatA huuN|' vaha apavyaya kahalAtA hai| Aja to loga ApakI TIkA bhI karate haiN| khuda kyA kara rahA hai, usakA bhAna nahIM hai becAre ko, isalie aisA karatA rahatA hai| duHkhavAlA hI kisIkI TIkA karatA hai, duHkhavAlA kisIko cher3atA hai| sukhI manuSya kisIkI TIkA nahIM krtaa| 'apanI TIkA karane kA logoM ko adhikAra hai| hameM kisIkI TIkA karane kA adhikAra nahIM hai|' (AptasUtra) to niMdA aura TIkA meM pharka hai ? TIkA matalaba kyA ki usake pratyakSa dikhanevAle doSa, unheM opana karanA, vaha TIkA kahalAtI hai| aura niMdA matalaba dikhanevAle nahIM dikhanevAle sAre doSa gAte rhnaa| usakA ulTA hI bolate rahanA, vaha niMdA hai| 'kisIkI thor3I bhI TIkA karanA kevalajJAna ko bAdhaka hai| are, AtmajJAna ko bhI bAdhaka hai, samakita ko bhI bAdhaka hai|' (AptasUtra) praznakartA: kisIkI niMdA kareM, vaha kisameM A jAtA hai? dAdAzrI : niMdA, vaha virAdhanA mAnI jAtI hai| para pratikramaNa kareM to calA jAtA hai| vaha avarNavAda jaisA hai| isalie to hama kahate haiM ki kisIkI niMdA mata krnaa| to bhI loga pIche se niMdA karate haiM / isalie kisIkI niMdA meM nahIM par3anA caahie| kamAI nahIM kareM, kIrtana nahIM kareM to harja nahIM, para niMdA meM mata pdd'naa| maiM kahatA hU~ ki niMdA karane meM apanA kyA phAyadA hai? usameM to bahuta nukasAna hai| jabaradasta nukasAna yadi kabhI isa jagat meM ho to niMdA karane meM hai| kisI vyakti kI niMdA nahIM kara skte| are, thor3I bAtacIta bhI nahIM kara skte| usameM se bhayaMkara doSa baiTha jAte haiN| usameM bhI yahA~ satsaMga meM, paramahaMsa kI sabhA meM to kisIkI thor3I sI bhI ulTI bAtacIta nahIM
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM... bhI apane loga to chor3ate nahIM haiN| aisA karate haiM yA nahIM karate loga? aisA nahIM honA cAhie, hama aisA kahanA cAhate haiN| jokhima hai usmeN| bahuta bar3A jokhima hai| vANI, vyavahAra meM... kara skte| eka thor3I sI ulTI kalpanA se jJAna ke Upara kitanA bar3A AvaraNa A jAtA hai| to phira ina 'mahAtmAoM' kI TIkA, niMdA kareM to kitanA bhArI AvaraNa aaegaa| satsaMga meM to dUdha meM zakkara mila jAtI hai, vaise mila jAnA caahie| yaha buddhi hI bhItara daqhala karatI hai| hama sabhI kA sabakucha jAnate haiM, phira bhI kisIkA eka akSara bhI nahIM bolte| eka akSara bhI ulTA bolane se jJAna ke Upara AvaraNa A jAtA hai| praznakartA : jo avarNavAda zabda hai na, usakA ekjekTa mIniMga kyA hai? dAdAzrI : kisI bhI rAste jaisA hai vaisA citraNa nahIM karanA, para ulTA hI citraNa karanA, vaha avarNavAda! jaisA hai vaisA bhI nahIM aura vApisa usase ulttaa| jaisA hai vaisA citraNa kareM aura kharAba ko kharAba boleM aura acche ko acchA boleM, to avarNavAda nahIM khlaataa| para sArA hI ulTA boleM taba avarNavAda kahalAtA hai| avarNavAda matalaba kisI vyakti kI bAhara acchI ijjata ho, rutabA ho, kIrti ho, to use hama ulTA bolakara tor3a DAleM, vaha avarNavAda kahalAtA hai| yaha avarNavAda to niMdA se bhI jyAdA kharAba cIz2a hai| avarNavAda matalaba usake lie gAr3ha niMdAe~ krnaa| ye loga niMdA kaisI karate haiM? sAdI niMdA karate haiN| para gAr3ha niMdA karanA vaha avarNavAda kahalAtA hai| praznakartA : 'he dAdA bhagavAna ! mujhe kisI bhI dehadhArI jIvAtmA kA, pratyakSa athavA parokSa, jIvita athavA mRta, kisIkA kiMcita mAtra bhI avarNavAda, aparAdha, avinaya nahIM kiyA jAe, nahIM karavAyA jAe yA kartA ke prati anumodana nahIM kiyA jAe, aisI parama zakti diijie|' (nau kalamoM meM se AThavIM kalama) dAdAzrI : apane koI riztedAra mara gae hoM aura usakI loga niMdA kara rahe hoM, to hameM bIca meM nahIM par3anA caahie| bIca meM par3a jAe~, to hameM phira pachatAvA karanA cAhie ki aisA nahIM honA caahie| kisI mare hue vyakti kI bAta karanI, vaha bhayaMkara gunAha hai| jo mara gayA ho, use abhI rAvaNa kA ulTA nahIM bolanA caahie| kyoMki abhI to vaha dehadhArI hai| isalie unheM 'phona' pahu~ca jAtA hai| rAvaNa aisA thA aura vaisA thA' boleM, vaha use pahu~ca jAtA hai| usa samaya pahale ke opIniyana se aisA bola liyA jAtA hai| isalie yaha kalama bolate jAo to vaisI bAta bola lI jAe to doSa nahIM lge| eka zabda kar3avA nahIM bola skte| kaDavA bolane se to bahata sAre jhagar3e khar3e hue haiN| eka hI zabda 'a~dhe ke saba a~dhe' isa zabda se to pUrA mahAbhArata khar3A ho gyaa| dUsarA to koI khAsa kAraNa nahIM thA, yahI mukhya kAraNa thA ! draupadI ne kahA thA na? Takora kI thI na? aba usakA phala draupadI ko milaa| hamezA eka bhI kaDavA zabda bolA ho to phala mile bagaira rahegA kyA? praznakartA : vANI meM se kaThoratA kisa prakAra jAe? dAdAzrI : vaha to hama vANI ko jaise mor3anA cAheM vaisI mur3a jAtI hai| para abhI taka hamane kaThora banAI thii| logoM ko DarAne ke lie, ghabarAne ke lie| sAmanevAlA kaThora bole to hameM mRdu bolanA caahie| kyoMki hameM chUTanA hai| ___ he dAdA, kaMTha meM birAjamAna ho jaaie| taba vANI sudhara jaaegii| yahA~ gale meM dAdA kA nididhyAsana kareM to bhI vANI sudhara jaaegii| praznakartA : taMtIlI bhASA matalaba kyA? dAdAzrI : rAta ko ApakI vAipha ke sAtha jhaMjhaTa ho jAe na, to
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM... subaha cAya rakhate samaya aise paTakakara rakhatI hai| taba hama samajha gae ki, 'ohoho, rAta ko huA vaha bhUlI nahIM hai!' vaha tAMtA hai| abhI koI Akara kahegA, 'saba binA akkala ke yahA~ baiThe ho ? uTho na, khAnA khAne clo|' taba sabhI baiThe hue loga kaheMge, 'are, khA liyA hamane / aba yaha tUne yahA~ para khilAyA, vaha kama hai kyA ? !' use duHsvara kahate haiN| kitane to khicar3I khilAte haiM, ve itanA mIThA bolate haiM ki, 'bhAI, z2arA bhojana ke lie padhArie na / ' to hameM khicar3I itanI acchI lagatI hai| bhale hI sirpha khicar3I ho, para vaha susvara hai| eka bhAI ne mujhe pUchA ki, 'Apake jaisI mIThI vANI kaba hogI?' taba maiMne kahA ki 'ye sAre jo negeTiva zabda haiM Apake, vaisA bolanA baMda hogA taba / ' kyoMki haraeka zabda usake guNa-paryAya sahita hotA hai| hamezA poz2iTiva bolo| bhItara AtmA hai, AtmA kI hAz2irI hai| isalie pojiTiva bolo| pojiTiva meM negeTiva nahIM bolanA caahie| poz2iTiva huA, usameM negeTiva boleM, vaha gunAha hai aura poz2iTiva meM negeTiva bolate haiM, isalie ye sArI muzkileM khar3I hotI haiN| 'kucha bhI nahIM bigar3A hai' aisA bolate hI bhItara kitanA hI badalAva ho jAtA hai| isalie poz2iTiva bolo| varSoM ke varSoM bIta gae, para thor3A bhI negeTiva nahIM huA hai merA mana / thor3A bhI, kisI bhI saMjoga meM negeTiva nahIM huA hai| ye mana yadi poz2iTiva ho jAe~ logoM ke, to bhagavAna hI bana jaaeN| isalie logoM se kyA kahatA hU~ ki yaha negeTiviTI chor3ate jAo, samabhAva se nikAla karake / pojiTiva to apane Apa rahegA phira / vyavahAra meM pojiTiva aura nizcaya meM pojiTiva nahIM aura negeTiva bhI nahIM ! 2. vANI se tarachor3a - aMtarAya praznakartA: kitane hI ghara aise hote haiM, ki jahA~ vANI se bolAcAlI 10 hotI rahatI hai| para mana aura hRdaya sApha hote haiN| vANI, vyavahAra meM... dAdAzrI : aba vANI se kleza hotA ho, taba sAmanevAle ke hRdaya para asara hotA hai| bAqI yadi nATakIya rahatA ho taba to harja nahIM hai| bAqI aisA hai na, bolanevAlA to hRdaya se aura mana se cokhA hotA hai, vaha bola sakatA hai| para sunanevAle ko to, use patthara lagA ho, aisA lagatA hai, isalie kleza hotA hI hai| jahA~ koI bhI bola kharAba hai na, vicitra haiM na, vahA~ kleza hotA hai| bola (zabda) to lakSmI hai| use to gina ginakara denA caahie| lakSmI koI gine bagaira detA hai? yaha bola eka aisI vastu hai ki vaha yadi sa~bhAla liyA gayA to sAre hI mahAvrata A jAte haiN| kisIko thor3I bhI tarachor3a (tiraskArapUrvaka dutkAranA) nahIM lage, vaisA apanA jIvana honA caahie| Apa tarachor3a ko pahacAnate ho yA nahIM pahacAnate? bahuta pahacAnate ho? acchI taraha? kisIko coTa laga jAtI hai kyA? praznakartA: bhItara meM sUkSma rUpa se coTa laga jAtI hai| dAdAzrI : vaha sUkSma lage usameM harja nahIM hai| sUkSma lage, vaha to hameM nukasAnadeha hai| hAlA~ki sAmanevAle ke lie bhI virodhaka to hai hI / kyoMki sAmanevAlA ekatA anubhava nahIM kregaa| praznakartA : mAna lo ki sthUla tiraskAra huA ho to bhI pratikramaNa turanta hI ho jAtA hai| dAdAzrI : hA~, kisIko tarachor3a laga jAe to phira pratikramaNa karane caahie| aura dUsarA, phira bAda meM usake sAtha acchA bolakara bAta palaTa denI caahie| hameM pichale janmoM kA bhItara dikhatA hai taba Azcarya hotA hai ki ohoho, tiraskAra se kitanA adhika nukasAna hai! isalie maz2adUroM kA bhI tiraskAra nahIM ho, usa taraha baratanA caahie| aMta meM sA~pa hokara bhI kATate
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________________ 12 vANI, vyavahAra meM... haiM, tiraskAra kA badalA lie bagaira rahate nahIM haiN| praznakartA: kyA upAya karanA cAhie ki jisase tiraskAra ke pariNAma bhogane kI bArI nahIM Ae? dAdAzrI : usake lie dUsarA koI upAya nahIM hai, sirpha pratikramaNa hI karate rahanA caahie| jaba taka sAmanevAle kA mana vApisa nahIM badale taba taka karane caahie| aura pratyakSa mileM to phira vApisa mIThA bolakara kSamA mA~ga lenI cAhie ki, 'bhAI, merI to bar3I bhUla ho gaI hai| maiM to mUrkha hU~, beakkala huuN|' isase sAmanevAle ke ghAva bharate jaaeNge| hama apanA khuda kA burA boleM to sAmanevAle ko acchA lagegA, taba usake ghAva bhara jaaeNge| praznakartA : pairoM meM girakara bhI mAfI mA~ga lenI caahie| dAdAzrI : nhiiN| pairoM meM par3heM to gunAha hotA hai, aisA nahIM hai| dUsare prakAra kI vANI se pltto| vANI se ghAva huA ho na, to vANI se pltto| pairoM meM girane se to vApisa mana meM usa samaya vaha ulTA calA huA vyakti ulTA hI smjhegaa| mujhe bahuta taraha ke loga milate haiN| para maiM unake sAtha ekatA nahIM TUTane detaa| ekatA TUTe to phira usakI zakti nahIM rhegii| jaba taka merI ekatA hai, taba taka usakI zakti hai| isalie sa~bhAlanA par3atA hai| hama jisa prayogazAlA meM baiThe haiM, vahA~ prayoga sAre dekhane par3ate haiM na! praznakartA : ye aMtarAya kisa taraha se par3ate haiM? dAdAzrI : yaha bhAI nAztA de rahe hoM, to Apa kaho ki, 'aba rahane dena, bekAra hI bigdd'egaa|' vaha aMtarAya DAlA kahalAtA hai| koI dAna de rahA ho taba Apa kaho ki, 'inheM kahA~ de rahe ho? ye to har3apa jAe~, aise haiN|' yaha Apane dAna kA aMtarAya ddaalaa| phira dAna denevAle de yA nahIM de vaha bAta alaga hai, para Apane aMtarAya ddaalaa| phira Apako koI duHkha meM bhI dAtA nahIM milegaa| vANI, vyavahAra meM... Apa jisa oNphisa meM naukarI kara rahe hoM, vahA~ Apake AsisTenTa ko 'beakkala' kahA to ApakI akkala para aMtarAya par3A! bolo, aba isa aMtarAya meM pha~sa-pha~sakara yaha manuSyajanma yoM hI kho DAlA hai! Apako rAiTa (adhikAra) hI nahIM hai sAmanevAle ko beakkala kahane kaa| Apa aisA bolate ho isalie sAmanevAlA bhI ulTA bolegA, to use bhI aMtarAya par3egA! bolo aba, ye aMtarAya DAlane se jagat kisa taraha rukegA? kisIko Apane nAlAyaka kahA, to ApakI hI kAbaliyata para aMtarAya pdd'eNge| Apa usake turanta hI pratikramaNa karo to aMtarAya par3ane se pahale hI dhula jaaeNge| praznakartA : vANI se aMtarAya nahIM DAle hoM, para mana se aMtarAya DAle hoM to? dAdAzrI : mana se DAle hue aMtarAya adhika asara karate haiM, ve to dUsare janma meM asara karate haiN| aura isa vANI se bolA huA isa janma meM asara karatA hai| praznakartA : jJAnAMtarAya, darzanAMtarAya kisase par3ate haiM? dAdAzrI : dharma meM ulTA-sIdhA bole, 'Apa kucha bhI nahIM samajhate aura maiM hI samajhatA hU~', usase jJAnAMtarAya aura darzanAMtarAya par3ate haiN| yA phira koI AtmajJAna prApta kara rahA ho, usameM vighna DAle to use jJAna kA aMtarAya par3atA hai| koI kahe ki, "jJAnI puruSa' Ae haiM, calo AnA ho to|' taba Apa kaho ki, 'aba aise 'jJAnI puruSa' to bahuta dekhe haiN|' yaha aMtarAya par3A! aba manuSya hai, isalie bole binA to rahatA hI nahIM na! Apase nahIM jAyA jAe aisA ho, taba Apako mana meM bhAva hotA hai ki, 'jJAnI puruSa' Ae haiM para mujhase nahIM jAyA jA sakatA, to aMtarAya ttuutteNge| aMtarAya DAlanevAlA khuda nAsamajhI se aMtarAya DAlatA hai, usakI use khabara nahIM hai| kitane sAre aMtarAya DAle haiM jIva ne! ye jJAnI puruSa haiM, hAtha meM mokSa dete haiN| ciMtA rahita sthiti banAte haiM, phira bhI aMtarAya kitane sAre haiM ki use 'vastu' kI prApti hI nahIM hotii|
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________________ 13 vANI, vyavahAra meM... kisIko galata kahA, vaha khuda ke AtmA para dhUla DAlane ke samAna vANI, vyavahAra meM... kucha loga kahate haiM, 'aisA akrama jJAna to kahIM hotA hogA? ghaMTebhara meM mokSa to hotA hogA?' aisA bole ki unheM aMtarAya pdd'e| isa jagat meM kyA nahIM ho sakatA, vaha kahA nahIM jA sktaa| isalie yaha jagat buddhi se nApane jaisA nahIM hai| kyoMki yaha huA hai, vaha haqIqata hai| 'AtmavijJAna' ke lie to khAsa aMtarAya par3e hue hote haiN| yaha sabase aMtima sTezana hai| praznakartA : saMsAra cIz2a hI aisI hai ki jahA~ sirpha aMtarAya hI haiN| dAdAzrI : Apa khuda paramAtmA ho, para usa pada kA lAbha nahIM miltaa| kyoMki nire aMtarAya haiN| 'maiM caMdUbhAI hU~' bole ki aMtarAya pdd'e| kyoMki bhagavAna kahate haiM ki, 'tU mujhe caMdU kahatA hai?' yaha binA samajhe bolA to bhI aMtarAya par3atA hai| aMgAroM para anajAne meM hAtha DAleM to ve chor3eMge kyA? praznakartA : do loga bAta kara rahe hoM aura hama bIca meM boleM, to vaha kyA hamane dakhalaaMdAjI kI kahalAegA? yA phira hamArA DiscArja hai vaha? dAdAzrI : dakhalaaMdAjI karane se dakhala ho jAtI hai| praznakartA : daqhala karane se yAnI kisa taraha se hotA hai? dAdAzrI : vaha kahe ki 'Apa kisalie bole?' taba hama kaheM, 'aba nahIM boluuNgaa|' to vaha daqhala nahIM hai| usake badale Apa usa ghar3I yadi kaho ki 'maiM nahIM boleM to nahIM calegI yaha gAr3I, bigar3a jAegA sb|' vaha dakhala kii| bIca meM bola liyA jAe, vaha dakhalaaMdAjI kahalAtI hai| para vaha dakhalaaMdAjI bhI DiscArja hai| aba usa DiscArja daqhala meM bhI naI dakhalaaMdAz2I ho jAtI hai| dakhalaaMdAjI karanA hI aMtarAya hai| Apa paramAtmA ho, aura paramAtmA ko aMtarAya kisalie? para ye to dakhalaaMdAjI karate haiM ki, 'yaha aisA kyoM kiyA? yaha isa taraha se kr|' are, yaha kisalie karate ho aisA? hameM jaisA pasaMda ho vaisA bolanA caahie| aisA projekTa karo ki Apako pasaMda aae| yaha saba ApakA hI projekzana hai| isameM bhagavAna ne koI dakhala nahIM kI hai| kisIke Upara DAlo to sArI hI vANI aMta meM Apake hI Upara AtI hai| isalie aisI zuddha vANI bolo ki zuddha vANI hI Apake Upara pdd'e| hama kisIko bhI 'tU galata hai' aisA nahIM khte| cora ko bhI galata nahIM khte| kyoMki usake vyU poinTa se vaha saccA hai| hA~, hama use corI karane kA phala kyA AegA, vaha 'jaisA hai vaisA', use samajhAte haiN| 3. zabdoM se sarjita adhyavasana... ye jo tAra bajate haiM na, vaha eka hI tAra hilAe~ to kitanI AvAz2a hotI hai aMdara? praznakartA : bahuta bajate haiN| dAdAzrI : eka hI hilAo to bhI? vaise hI yaha eka hI zabda boleM, usase bhItara kitane hI zabda khar3e ho jAte haiN| use bhagavAna ne adhyavasana kahA hai| adhyavasana matalaba nahIM bolanA ho, to bhI ve khar3e ho jAte haiM saare| khuda kA bolane kA bhAva ho gayA na, isalie ve zabda apane Apa bola lie jAte haiN| jitanI zakti hotI hai na vaha sArI jAgRta ho jAtI hai| icchA nahIM ho to bhI ! adhyavasana itane sAre khar3e ho jAte haiM ki kabhI bhI mokSa meM nahIM jAne deN| isalie hI to hamane akrama vijJAna diyA hai, kitanA suMdara akrama vijJAna hai| koI bhI buddhizAlI manuSya isa paz2ala kA aMta lA de, aisA vijJAna hai| __ 'Apa nAlAyaka ho' aisA boleM na, vaha zabda sunakara use to duHkha huA hI? para usake jo paryAya khar3e hote haiM, ve Apako bahuta duHkha dete haiM aura Apa kaho, 'bahuta acche vyakti, Apa bahuta bhale vyakti ho', to
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM... 15 Apako bhItara zAMti degaa| Apake bolane se sAmanevAle ko zAMti ho gii| Apako bhI shaaNti| isalie yahI sAvadhAnI rakhane kI z2arUrata hai na! Apa eka zabda bolo ki 'yaha nAlAyaka hai', to 'lAyaka' kA vajana eka kilo hotA hai aura 'nAlAyaka' kA vajana cAlIsa kilo hotA hai| isalie 'lAyaka' bologe usake spaMdana bahuta kama hoMge, kama hilAe~ge, aura 'nAlAyaka' bologe to cAlIsa pAunDa hilegaa| bola bole usake pariNAma ! praznakartA: yAnI cAlIsa pAunDa kA pemenTa khar3A rhaa| dAdAzrI : chuTakArA hI nahIM na ! praznakartA: phira hama breka kaise lagAe~? usakA upAya kyA hai? dAdAzrI : 'yaha vANI galata hai' aisA lage taba pratidina parivartana hotA jAtA hai| eka vyakti se Apa kaho ki 'Apa jhUThe ho|' to aba 'jhUThA' kahane ke sAtha hI to itanA sArA sAinsa ghera letA hai bhItara, usake paryAya itane sAre khar3e ho jAte haiM ki Apako do ghaMToM taka to usa para prema hI utpanna nahIM hotaa| isalie zabda bolA hI nahIM jAe to uttama hai aura bola liyA jAe to pratikramaNa kro| mana-vacana-kAyA ke tamAma lepAyamAna bhAva, ve kyA hote haiM? ve cetanabhAva nahIM haiN| ve sAre prAkRtika bhAva, jar3a ke bhAva haiN| lepAyamAna bhAva matalaba hameM lepita nahIM honA ho to bhI vaha lepAyamAna kara dete haiN| isalie hama kahate haiM na ki, 'mana-vacana kAyA ke tamAma lepAyamAna bhAvoM se maiM sarvathA nirlepa hI huuN|' una lepAyamAna bhAvoM ne pUre jagat ko lepAyamAna kiyA hai aura ve lepAyamAna bhAva ve sirpha pratighoSa hI haiN| aura ve nirjIva haiM vApisa / isalie Apako unakA sunanA nahIM cAhie / para ve yoM hI cale jAe~, vaise bhI nahIM haiN| ve zora macAte hI rheNge| to upAya kyA karoge? hameM kyA karanA par3egA? una adhyavasana ko baMda karane ke lie? 've to mere upakArI haiM' aisA-vaisA bolanA pdd'egaa| aba 16 vANI, vyavahAra meM... Apa aisA bologe taba ve ulTe bhAva sAre baMda ho jAe~ge, ki yaha to naI hI taraha kA 'upakArI' kahatA hai vApisa isalie phira zAMta ho jAe~ge ! Apa kaho na, ki 'yaha nukasAna ho jAe vaisA hai|' isalie turanta hI lepAyamAna bhAva taraha-taraha se zora macAe~ge, 'aisA ho jAegA aura vaisA ho jaaegaa|' 'are bhAI, Apa baiTho na bAhara abhI, maiMne to kahane ko kaha diyA, para Apa kisalie zora macA rahe ho?' isalie hama kaheM ki, 'nahIM, nhiiN| vaha to lAbhadAyI hai|' usake bAda ve sAre bhAva baiTha jAe~ge vApisa / ye TeparikArDara aura TrAnsamITara jaise kitane hI sAdhana abhI upalabdha ho gae haiN| isase bar3e-bar3e logoM ko bhaya lagA hI karatA hai ki koI kucha rekaoNrDa kara legA to? aba usameM (Tepa mazIna meM) to zabda Tepa hue utanA hI hai| para yaha manuSya kI boDI mana sArA hI Tepa ho jAe vaise haiN| usakA loga jarA sA bhI bhaya nahIM rakhate haiN| yadi sAmanevAlA nIMda meM ho aura Apa kaho ki, 'yaha nAlAyaka hai' to vaha usa vyakti ke bhItara Tepa ho gyaa| vaha phira usa vyakti ko phala degaa| isalie sote hue vyakti ke lie bhI nahIM bolanA cAhie, eka akSara bhI nahIM bolanA caahie| kyoMki sArA Tepa ho jAtA hai, vaisI yaha mazInarI hai| bolanA ho to acchA bolanA ki, 'sAhaba, Apa bahuta acche vyakti ho|' acchA bhAva rakhanA, to usakA phala Apako sukha milegaa| para ulTA thor3A bhI bole, aMdhere meM bhI bole yA akele meM bole, to usakA phala kar3avA jahara jaisA aaegaa| yaha saba Tepa hI ho jaaegaa| isalie TepiMga acchA krvaao| jitanA premamaya DIliMga (vyavahAra) hogA, utanI hI vANI isa TeparikaoNrDa meM pusAe aisI hai, usakA yaza acchA milegaa| nyAya-anyAya dekhanevAlA to bahutoM ko gAliyA~ detA hai| vaha to dekhane jaisA hI nahIM hai| nyAya-anyAya to eka tharmAmITara hai jagat kA, ki kisakA kitanA bukhAra utara gayA aura kitanA car3hA? ! jagat kabhI bhI nyAyI bananevAlA nahIM hai aura anyAyI bhI ho jAnevAlA nahIM hai| yahI kA yahI milA-julA khicar3A calatA hI rhegaa|
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM... 18 vANI, vyavahAra meM... pratipakSI bhAva nahIM hote, aura isI prakAra Apako bhI vahA~ taka pahu~canA yaha jagat hai, taba se aise kA aisA hI hai| satyuga meM jarA kama bigar3A huA vAtAvaraNa hotA hai, abhI adhika asara hai| rAmacaMdrajI ke samaya meM sItA kA haraNa kara jAnevAle the| to abhI nahIM hoMge? yaha to calatA hI rhegaa| yaha mazInarI aisI hI hai pahale se hii| aura use sUjha nahIM par3atI hai| khuda kI jimmedAriyoM kA bhAna nahIM hai, isalie gaira jimmedArIvAlA bolanA nahIM / gaira jimmedArIvAlA vartana karanA nhiiN| gaira jimmedArIvAlA kucha bhI karanA nhiiN| sArA poz2iTiva lenaa| kisIkA acchA karanA ho to karane jaanaa| nahIM to bure meM par3anA hI nhiiN| aura burA socanA nhiiN| barA sunanA hI nahIM kisiikaa| bahata jokhimadArI hai| nahIM to itanA baDA jagata, usameM mokSa to khuda ke bhItara hI par3A huA hai aura khuda ko milatA nahIM hai! aura kitane hI janmoM se bhaTakate rahate haiN| ghara meM patnI ko DA~Te to vaha samajhatA hai ki kisIne sunA hI nahIM na! yaha to aisI hI hai na! choTe bacce hoM, taba unakI upasthiti meM patipatnI cAhe jaisA bolate haiN| ve samajhate haiM ki yaha choTA baccA kyA samajhanevAlA hai? are, bhItara Tepa ho rahA hai, usakA kyA? vaha bar3A hogA taba vaha saba bAhara nikalegA! itanI apanI kamajorI jAnI hI cAhie ki pratipakSI bhAva utpanna nahIM hoN| aura kabhI hue hoM to hamAre pAsa pratikramaNa kA hathiyAra hai, usase miTA ddaaleN| pAnI kArakhAne meM pahuMca gayA ho, para barpha nahIM banA taba taka harja nahIM hai| barpha ho gayA phira apane hAtha meM nahIM rhegaa| praznakartA : vANI bolate samaya ke bhAva aura jAgRti ke anusAra TepiMga hotA hai? dAdAzrI : nhiiN| vaha TepiMga vANI bolate samaya nahIM hotA hai| yaha to mUla pahale hI ho cukA hai| aura phira Aja kyA hotA hai? chape hue ke anusAra hI bajatA hai| praznakartA : phira abhI boleM, usa samaya jAgRti rakheM to? dAdAzrI : abhI Apane kisIko dhmkaayaa| phira mana meM aisA ho ki 'ise dhamakAyA vaha ThIka hai|' isalie phira vApisa usa taraha ke hisAba kA koDavarDa Tepa huaa| aura 'ise dhamakAyA. vaha galata haa|' aisA bhAva huA, to koDavarDa ApakA naI prakAra kA huaa| yaha dhamakAyA, vaha ThIka hai| aisA mAnA ki usake jaisA hI phira koDa utpanna huA aura usase vaha adhika vaz2anadAra banatA hai| aura yaha bahuta ho gayA, aisA nahIM bolanA caahie| aisA kyoM hotA hai?' aisA ho to koDa choTA ho gyaa| praznakartA : tIrthaMkaroM kI vANI ke koDa kaise hote haiM? dAdAzrI : unhoMne koDa aisA nakkI kiyA huA hotA hai ki merI vANI se kisI bhI jIva ko kiMcit mAtra bhI du:kha nahIM ho| du:kha to ho hI nahIM, para kisI jIva kA kiMcit mAtra pramANa bhI nahIM dubhe| per3a kA bhI pramANa nahIM dubhe| aise koDa sirpha tIrthaMkaroM ke hI hue hote haiN| praznakartA : jise Tepa hI nahIM karanA ho, usake lie kyA rAstA hai? sAmAnya vyavahAra meM bolane meM harja nahIM hai| para dehadhArI mAtra ke lie kucha bhI ulTA-sIdhA bolA gayA to vaha bhItara TeparikaoNrDa ho gyaa| isa saMsAra ke logoM kI Tepa utAranI ho to samaya kitanA lagegA? eka jarAsA cher3o to pratipakSI bhAva Tepa hote hI rheNge| tujhameM kamajorI aisI hai ki cher3ane se pahale hI tU bolane lgegaa| praznakartA: kharAba bolanA to nahIM hai. para kharAba bhAva bhI nahIM AnA cAhie na? dAdAzrI : kharAba bhAva nahIM AnA cAhie, vaha bAta sahI hai| bhAva meM AtA hai, vaha bola meM Ae bagaira rahatA nahIM hai| isalie bolanA yadi baMda ho jAe na to bhAva bhI baMda ho jaaeN| ye bhAva to bolane ke pIche rahA pratighoSa hai| pratipakSI bhAva to utpanna hue bagaira rahate hI nahIM na! hameM
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM.... 19 dAdAzrI : kucha bhI spaMdana nahIM karanA caahie| saba dekhate hI rahanA caahie| para vaisA hotA nahIM hai na! yaha bhI mazIna hai aura phira parAdhIna hai| isalie hama dUsarA rAstA batAte haiM ki Tepa ho jAe ki turanta miTA do to clegaa| yaha pratikramaNa, vaha miTAne kA sAdhana hai| isase ekAdha bhava meM parivartana hokara sArA bolanA baMda ho jaaegaa| yaha 'saccidAnaMda' zabda bolane se bahuta iphekTa hotA hai| binA samajhe boleM to bhI iphekTa hotA hai| samajhakara bole taba to bahuta lAbha hotA hai| ye zabda bolane se spaMdana hote haiM aura bhItara maMthana hotA hai| saba sAyanTiphika hai| praznakartA: 'kAma nahIM karanA hai, aisA bole, to usameM kyA ho jAtA hai? dAdAzrI : phira Alasa A jAtA hai| apane Apa hI Alasa AtA hai aura 'karanA hai' kahe to Alasa sArA jAne kahA~ calA jAtA hai| maiM 'jJAna' hone se pahale kI bAta batAtA huuN| maiM paccIsa varSa kA thA, taba merI tabiyata narama ho aura koI pUchatA ki, 'kaisI hai ApakI tabiyata?' maiM kahatA ki, 'bahuta acchI hai|' aura dUsare kisIkI tabiyata acchI ho aura hama pUcheM ki, 'kaisI hai ApakI tabiyata ?' taba vaha kahatA hai, 'ThIka hai|' are bhAI, 'ThIka hai' kahatA hai, isalie Age nahIM bddh'egaa| isalie phira maiMne 'ThIka' zabda ur3A diyaa| yaha zabda nukasAna karatA hai| AtmA 'ThIka' ho jAtA hai phira 'bahuta acchA' kaheM, usa ghar3I AtmA 'acchA' ho jAtA hai| bAqI loga samajhate haiM ki dAdA caina se kamare meM jAkara so jAte haiN| usa bAta meM mAla nahIM hai| padmAsana lagAkara eka ghaMTe taka aura isa satahattara varSa kI umra meM padmAsana lagAkara baitthnaa| paira bhI mur3a jAte haiM aura usase A~khoM kI zakti, A~khoM kA prakAza, vaha saba Aja bhI kAyama hai| kyoMki prakRti kI maiMne kabhI bhI niMdA nahIM kI hai| usakI burAI 20 vANI, vyavahAra meM.... kabhI bhI nahIM kI hai| apamAna kabhI kiyA nhiiN| loga burAI karake apamAna karate haiN| prakRti jIvaMta hai, usakA apamAna karoge to usa para asara hogaa| 4. duHkhadAyI vANI ke samaya, samAdhAna ! praznakartA : koI kucha bola jAe, usameM hama samAdhAna kisa taraha kareM? samabhAva kisa taraha rakheM? T dAdAzrI : apanA jJAna kyA kahatA hai? koI ApakA kucha kara sake aisA hai hI nahIM varlDa meM koI janmA hI nahIM ki jo ApameM kucha dakhala kara sakatA ho / kisImeM koI dakhala kara sake vaisA hai hI nhiiN| to yaha daqhala kyoM AtI hai ? ApameM jo dakhalaaMdAjI karatA hai vaha Apake lie nimitta hai| para usameM mUla hisAba ApakA hI hai| koI ulTA kare yA sIdhA kare, para usameM hisAba ApakA hI hai aura vaha nimitta bana jAtA hai| vaha hisAba pUrA huA ki phira koI dakhala nahIM kregaa| isalie nimitta ke sAtha jhagar3A karanA bekAra hai| nimitta ko kATane daur3ane para phira vApisa gunAha khar3A hogaa| isalie isameM karane ke lie kucha rahatA nahIM hai| yaha vijJAna hai, vaha saba samajha lene kI z2arUrata hai| praznakartA: koI hameM kucha kaha jAe, vaha bhI naimitika hI hai na? apanA doSa nahIM ho, phira bhI bole to? dAdAzrI : isa jagat meM ApakA doSa nahIM ho to kisI vyakti ko aisA bolane kA adhikAra nahIM hai| isalie ye bolate haiM to ApakI bhUla hai, usakA badalA dete haiM yaha / hA~, vaha ApakI pichale janma kI jo bhUla hai, usa bhUla kA badalA yaha vyakti Apako de rahA hai| vaha nimitta hai aura bhUla ApakI hai| isalie hI vaha bola rahA hai| aba vaha apanI bhUla hai, isalie yaha bola rahA hai| to vaha vyakti hameM usa bhUla meM se mukta karavA rahA hai| usakI tarapha bhAva nahIM bigAr3anA caahie| aura hameM kyA kahanA cAhie ki prabhu, usako sadbuddhi diijie| utanA hI kahanA, kyoMki vaha nimitta hai|
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM... hama kyA kahanA cAhate haiM? ki jo kucha AtA hai vaha ApakA hisAba hai| use cuka jAne do aura phira nae sire se rakama udhAra mata denaa| praznakartA : naI rakama udhAra denA kise kahate haiM Apa? dAdAzrI : koI Apako ulTA kahe to Apako mana meM aisA hotA hai ki 'yaha mujhe kyoM ulTA sunA rahA hai?' isalie Apa use naI rakama udhAra dete ho| jo ApakA hisAba thA, vaha cukAte samaya Apane phira se naye hisAba kA khAtA zurU kiyaa| isalie eka gAlI jo udhAra dI thI, vaha vApisa dene AyA, taba vaha hameM jamA kara lenI thI, usake badale meM Apane pA~ca naI udhAra de dIM vaapis| yaha eka to sahana hotI nahIM, vahA~ dusarI pA~ca udhAra dI, vahA~ para naI jamA-udhAra karatA hai na, aura phira ulajhatA rahatA hai| isa taraha sArI ulajhaneM khar3I karatA hai| aba isameM manuSya kI buddhi kisa taraha pahu~ce? yadi tujhe yaha vyApAra nahIM pusAe to phira se denA mata, nayA udhAra mata denA, aura yaha pusAtA ho to phira se pA~ca de| praznakartA : eka bAra jamA kareM, do bAra jamA kareM, sau bAra jamA kareM, aisA hara bAra jamA hI karate raheM? dAdAzrI : hA~, phira udhAra doge to phira se vaha bahIkhAtA calatA rhegaa| isake badale tU lAkha bAra jamA karavA na, hameM jamA karane haiN| aura usakA aMta aaegaa| dekhanA na, mere kahe anusAra calo na! praznakartA : itane varSa bIta gae, phira bhI abhI taka aMta nahIM aayaa| dAdAzrI : dUsarA vicAra karane ke badale mere kahe anusAra karanA na, aMta A jaaegaa| aura maiMne jamA kie haiM, aise bahuta saare| hama aTThAIsa varSoM se nayA udhAra hI nahIM dete| isalie bahIkhAte sAre kitane cokhe ho gae haiM! apane par3osI se kaheM ki, 'Apa subaha pahale mujhe pA~ca gAliyA~ denaa|' taba vaha kyA kahegA ki, 'maiM koI phAlatU hU~?' yAnI hisAba nahIM 22 vANI, vyavahAra meM... hai, vaha koI gAliyA~ degA hI nahIM na! aura hisAba hai, vaha koI chor3anevAlA nahIM hai| aba apanA itanA puruSArtha zeSa rahA ki, 'ha~sate mukha se jahara piio|' kisI dina beTe ke sAtha koI matabheda ho gayA, beTA virodha kare to phira jo 'pyAlA' de jAe, vaha pInA to par3egA na ! ro-rokara bhI pInA to par3egA hI na? vaha 'pyAlA' thor3e hI koI usake sira para mAra sakate haiM? pInA to par3egA hI na? praznakartA : hA~, pInA pdd'egaa| dAdAzrI : jagat ro-rokara pItA hai| hameM ha~sakara pInA hai! basa, itanA hI kahA hai| sAmanevAlA kyA bolA, kaThora bolA, usake hama jnyaataa-dRssttaa| hama kyA bole, usake bhI hama jnyaataa-dRssttaa| kisI vyakti ne gAlI sunAI, to vaha kyA hai? usane Apake sAtha vyavahAra pUrA kiyaa| sAmanevAlA jo kucha bhI karatA hai, jaya-jaya karatA ho, to vaha, athavA gAliyA~ detA ho, to vaha bhI sArA ApakA hI. Apake sAtha kA vyavahAra opana karatA hai| vahA~ para vyavahAra ko vyavahAra se chednaa| aura vyavahAra eksepTa (svIkAra) krnaa| vahA~ tU bIca meM nyAya mata ddaalnaa| nyAya DAlegA to ulajha jaaegaa| praznakartA : aura yadi hamane gAlI kabhI dI hI nahIM hoM to? dAdAzrI : yadi gAliyA~ nahIM dI hoM to sAmane gAliyA~ nahIM mileNgii| para yaha to agalA-pichalA hisAba hai, isalie die bagaira rahegA hI nhiiN| bahIkhAte meM jamA ho to hI AtA hai| kisI bhI prakAra kA asara huA, vaha binA hisAba ke nahIM hotaa| asara, vaha bIja kA phala hai| iphekTa (asara) kA hisAba, vaha vyvhaar| vyavahAra kise kahA jAtA hai? nau ho use nau se bhAga krnaa| yadi nau ko bAraha se bhAga deMge to vyavahAra kaise calegA?
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM... 23 nyAya kyA kahatA hai? nau kA bAraha se bhAga do| vahA~ phira ulajha jAtA hai| nyAya meM to kyA kaheMge ki, 've aisA aisA bole, isalie Apako aisA bolanA caahie|' Apa eka bAra bolo taba phira sAmanevAlA do bAra bolegaa| Apa do bAra bolo to phira sAmanevAlA dasa bAra bolegA / jisa taraha ke vyavahAra se lipaTa gayA hai, usa taraha ke vyavahAra se khulatA hai| yaha Apa mujhe pUchate ho ki Apa mujhe kyoM nahIM DA~Tate ? to maiM kahU~ ki, Apa vaisA vyavahAra nahIM lAe ho| jitanA vyavahAra Apa lAe the, utanA Apako Toka diyaa| usase adhika vyavahAra nahIM lAe the| hameM, jJAnI puruSa ko kaThora vANI hotI hI nahIM hai aura sAmanevAle ke lie kaThora vANI nikale to vaha hameM pasaMda nahIM aataa| aura phira bhI nikalI, to hama turanta hI samajha jAte haiM ki isake sAtha hama aisA hI vyavahAra lAe haiN| vANI sAmanevAle ke vyavahAra ke anusAra nikalatI hai| vItarAga puruSoM kI vANI nimitta ke adhIna nikalatI hai| koI kahegA, 'isa bhAI ko dAdA kyoM kaThora zabda kahate haiM?' usameM dAdA kyA kareM? vaha vyavahAra hI aisA lAyA hai| kitane to bilakula nAlAyaka hote haiM, phira bhI dAdA U~cI AvAz2a se bole hI nahIM hote| taba se hI nahIM samajha meM A jAe ki vaha apanA vyavahAra kitanA suMdara lAyA hai! jo kaThora vyavahAra lAyA ho, vaha hamAre pAsa se kaThora vANI pAtA hai| aba hamArI vANI ulTI nikale, to vaha sAmanevAle ke vyavahAra ke adhIna hai, para hameM to mokSa meM jAnA hai, isalie usakA pratikramaNa kara lenA caahie| praznakartA para tIra nikala gayA, usakA kyA? : dAdAzrI : vaha vyavahArAdhIna hai| praznakartA: aisI paraMparA rahe to baira bar3hegA na? dAdAzrI : nahIM, isalie hI to hama pratikramaNa karate haiN| pratikramaNa mAtra mokSa le jAne ke lie nahIM hai| para vaha to baira rokane ke lie bhagavAna 24 vANI, vyavahAra meM.... ke vahA~ kA phona hai| pratikramaNa meM kacce par3e to baira ba~dhatA hai| bhUla jaba samajha meM Ae taba turanta hI pratikramaNa kara lo| usase baira ba~dhegA hI nhiiN| sAmanevAle ko baira bA~dhanA ho to bhI nahIM bNdhegaa| kyoMki hama sAmanevAle ke AtmA ko sIdhA hI phona pahu~cAte haiN| vyavahAra nirUpAya hai| sirpha yadi hameM mokSa meM jAnA ho to pratikramaNa karo, jise svarUpajJAna nahIM ho, use vyavahAra ko vyavahAra svarUpa hI rakhanA ho to, sAmanevAlA ulTA bolA, vahI karekTa hai aisA rkho| parantu mokSa meM jAnA ho to usake pratikramaNa karo, nahIM to baira bNdhegaa| Apako abhI rAste meM jAte hue koI kahe ki, 'Apa nAlAyaka ho, cora ho, badamAza ho|' aisI-vaisI gAliyA~ de de aura Apako vItarAgatA rahe to samajhanA ki isa bAre meM Apa utane bhagavAna ho ge| jisa-jisa bAre meM Apa jIta gae utanI bAtoM meM Apa bhagavAna ho ge| aura Apa jagat se jIta gae to phira pUre hI, pUrNa bhagavAna ho ge| phira kisIke sAtha matabheda nahIM pdd'egaa| TakarAva huA isalie hameM samajhanA cAhie ki, 'maiM aisA kaisA bola gayA ki yaha TakarAva huA!' arthAt ho gayA hl| phira pajala saoNlva ho gyaa| nahIM to jaba taka hama 'sAmanevAle kI bhUla hai' aisA DhUMDhane jAe~ge, to kabhI bhI yaha paz2ala saoNlva nahIM hogaa| 'apanI bhUla hai' aisA mAneMge taba hI isa jagat kA aMta aaegaa| dUsarA koI upAya nahIM hai| dUsare sAre upAya ulajhAnevAle haiN| aura upAya karane, vaha apanA aMdara kA chupA huA ahaMkAra hai / upAya kisalie DhUMDhate ho? sAmanevAlA apanI bhUla nikAle to hameM aisA kahanA cAhie ki 'maiM to pahale se hI Ter3hA hU~ / ' praznakartA: 'AptavANI' maiM aisA likhA hai ki 'dAdA cora haiM' aisA koI kahe to mahAna upakAra mAnanA / dAdAzrI : aisA kisake badale meM upakAra mAnanA cAhie? kyoMki koI kahegA nahIM aisA / yaha pratighoSa hai kisI cIja kA to yaha mere khuda kA hI pratighoSa hai| isalie upakAra mAnU~gA /
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM... 25 yaha jagat pratighoSa ke rUpa meM hai| kucha bhI Ae to vaha ApakA hI pariNAma hai| usakI haMDreDa parasenTa gAranTI likhakara detA hU~ / isalie hama upakAra hI mAnate haiN| to Apako bhI upakAra mAnanA cAhie na? ! aura taba hI ApakA mana bahuta acchA rhegaa| hA~, upakAra nahIM mAno to usameM ApakA pUrA ahaMkAra khar3A hokara dveSa pariNAma paaegaa| use kyA nukasAna honevAlA hai? Apane divAlA nikaalaa| 5. vANI, hai hI TeparikaoNrDa vANI kI to sArI jhaMjhaTa hai| vANI ke kAraNa hI to yaha saba bhrAMti jAtI nahIM hai| kahegA ki 'yaha mujhe gAliyA~ detA hai|' aura isalie phira baira jAtA hI nahIM na! praznakartA: itane sAre jhagar3e hote hai, gAliyA~ deM to bhI loga moha ke kAraNa sArA bhUla jAte haiN| aura mujhe to dasa varSa pahale kahA huA ho to bhI lakSya meM rahatA hai| aura phira maiM unake sAtha nAtA nahIM rakhatA huuN| dAdAzrI : para maiM kucha nAtA tor3a nahIM detaa| hama jAnate haiM ki isakI noMdha (atyaMta rAga athavA dveSa sahita lambe samaya taka yAda rakhanA, noTa karanA) rakhane jaisI nahIM hai| reDiyo bajatA ho aisA mujhe lagatA hai| ulTA aMdara mana meM ha~sanA AtA hai| isalie maiMne khulle Ama pUre varlDa ko kahA hai ki yaha orijinala TeparikaoNrDa baja rahA hai| ye sAre hI reDiyo haiN| koI mujhe sAbita kara de ki 'yaha TeparikaoNrDa nahIM hai' to yaha pUrA jJAna hI galata hai| karuNA kise kahA jAtA hai? sAmanevAle kI mUrkhatA para prema rakhanA, use / mUrkhatA para baira rakhe, vaha to pUrA jagat rakhatA hI hai| praznakartA: bola rahe hoM na, taba vaisA lagatA nahIM hai ki yaha mUrkhatA kara rahA hai| dAdAzrI : usa becAre ke hAtha meM sattA hI nahIM hai| TeparikaoNrDa gAtA rahatA hai| hameM turanta patA cala jAtA hai ki yaha TeparikaoNrDa hai| jokhimadArI 26 vANI, vyavahAra meM... samajhatA ho to bole nahIM na! aura TeparikaoNrDa bhI nahIM baje / koI hameM zabda kahe ki, 'Apa gadhe ho, mUrkha ho' vaha hama logoM ko hilAe nhiiN| 'ApameM akkala nahIM hai' aisA mujhe kahe to, maiM kahU~ ki, 'usa bAta ko tU jAna gayA itanA acchA huaa| maiM to pahale se hI jAnatA hU~ tUne to Aja jaanaa|' taba phira se kahU~ ki, 'aba dUsarI bAta kara / ' to niber3A AegA yA nahIM AegA? isa akkala ko taulane baiTheM to tarAjU kisake vahA~ se lAe~? bATa kisake vahA~ se lAe~? vakIla kahA~ se lAe~? ! isase to hama kaha deM ki, 'bhAI, hA~, akkala nahIM hai, yaha bAta to tUne Aja jaanii| hama to pahale se hI jAnate haiN| cala, Age kI bAta kara aba / ' to niber3A Ae isameM / sAmanevAle kI bAta pakar3akara baiThane jaisA nahIM hai aura zabda to sAre TeparikaoNrDa bolatA hai| aura kAraNa DhUMDhane se kyA huA hai? yaha kAraNa DhUMDhane se hI jagat khar3A huA hai| kAraNa kisImeM DhUMDhanA mt| yaha to 'vyavasthita' hai| 'vyavasthita' se bAhara koI kucha bolanevAlA nahIM hai| yoM hI bekAra hI usake Upara Apa jo mana meM dhAraNa karate ho na, vaha ApakI bhUla hai| jagat pUrA nirdoSa hai| nirdoSa dekhakara maiM Apako kahatA hU~ ki nirdoSa hai| kisalie nirdoSa hai jagat ? zuddhAtmA nirdoSa haiM yA nahIM? taba doSita kyA lagatA hai? yaha pudgala / aba pudgala udayakarma ke adhIna hai, pUrI jindgii| aba udayakarma meM ho vaisA yaha bolatA hai, usameM Apa kyA karoge phira ?! dekho to sahI, itanA acchA dAdA ne vijJAna diyA hai ki kabhI bhI jhagar3A hI nahIM ho| vANI jar3a hai, rikaoNrDa hI hai| yaha TeparikaoNrDa bajatA hai, usake pahale Tepa meM utaratA hai yA nahIM? usI prakAra isa vANI kI bhI pUrI Tepa utara cukI hai| aura use saMyoga milate hI, jaise pina lage aura rikaoNrDa zurU ho jAtI hai, vaise hI vANI zurU ho jAtI hai|
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________________ 28 vANI, vyavahAra meM... kaI bAra aisA hotA hai yA nahIM ki Apane dRr3ha nizcaya kiyA ho ki sAsa ke sAmane yA pati ke sAmane nahIM bolanA hai, phira bhI bola liyA jAtA hai yA nahIM? bola liyA jAtA hai| vaha kyA hai? apanI to icchA nahIM thii| taba kyA pati kI icchA thI ki patnI mujhe gAlI de? taba phira kauna bulavAtA hai| yaha to rikaoNrDa bolatA hai aura Tepa ho cakI rikaoNrDa ko koI bApa bhI badala nahIM sktaa| bahuta bAra koI mana meM pakkA karake AyA ho ki Aja to use aisA sunAnA hai aura vaisA kaha duuNgaa| aura jaba usake pAsa jAtA hai aura dUsare do-pA~ca logoM ko dekhatA hai, to eka akSara bhI bole binA vApisa AtA hai yA nahIM? are, bolane jAe para jabAna hI nahIM cltii| aisA hotA hai yA nahIM? yadi terI sattA kI vANI ho, to tU cAhe, vaisI hI vANI nikle| para vaisA hotA hai? kaise hogA? yaha vijJAna itanA suMdara hai na ki kisI prakAra se bAdhaka hI nahIM aura jhaTapaTa hala lA de aisA hai| para isa vijJAna ko lakSya meM rakhe ki dAdA ne kahA hai ki vANI matalaba basa rikaoNrDa hI hai, phira koI cAhe jaisA bolA ho yA kotavAla jhir3akatA ho para usakI vANI vaha rikaoNrDa hI hai, vaisA phiTa ho jAnA cAhie, taba phira yaha kotavAla jhir3aka rahA ho to hameM asara nahIM kregaa| vANI, vyavahAra meM... mana meM se vANI kI qImata calI jaaegii| hameM to koI cAhe jaisA bole na to bhI usakI eka akSara bhI qImata nahIM hai| maiM jAnatA hU~ ki vaha becArA kisa taraha bola sakatA hai? vaha khuda hI ladra hai na! aura yaha to rikaoNrDa bola rahA hai| vaha to laTTa hai, dayA rakhane jaisA hai! praznakartA : 'yaha laTTa hai' itanA usa samaya lakSya meM nahIM rahatA hai| dAdAzrI : nahIM, pahale to 'vANI rikaoNrDa hai' aisA nakkI kro| phira 'yaha bolatA hai, vaha 'vyavasthita' hai| yaha phAila hai, usakA samabhAva se nikAla karanA hai|' yaha sArA jJAna sAtha-sAtha hAz2ira rahe na to hameM kucha bhI asara nahIM hogaa| jo bolatA hai vaha 'vyavasthita' hai na? aura rikaoNrDa hI bolatA hai na? vaha khuda nahIM bolatA na Aja? isalie koI vyakti jokhimadAra hai hI nhiiN| aura bhagavAna ko vaisA dikhA hai ki koI jIva kisI prakAra se jokhimadAra hai hI nhiiN| isalie koI ganahagAra hai hI nhiiN| vaha bhagavAna ne dekhA thaa| usa dRSTi se bhagavAna mokSa meM ge| aura jagat ne gunahagAra hai aisA dekhA, isalie jagat meM bhaTakate haiN| basa, itanA hI dRSTi kA pharka hai! praznakartA : hA~, para yaha jo dRSTi hai vaha aMdara phiTa ho jAe, usake lie kyA puruSArtha karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : puruSArtha kucha bhI nahIM karanA hai| isameM to 'dAdAjI' kI yaha bAta bilakula saca hai, usa para ullAsa jaise-jaise AegA, vaise-vaise aMdara phiTa hotA jaaegaa| isalie aba aisA nakkI kara do ki dAdA ne kahA hai. vaisA hI hai ki yaha vANI TeparikaoNrDa hI hai| aba use anubhava meM lo| vaha dhamakAtA ho to usa ghar3I hama apane mana meM ha~sane lageM. aisA kacha kro| kyoMki vAstava meM vANI TeparikaoNrDa hI hai aura aisA Apako samajha meM A gayA hai| kyoMki nahIM bolanA ho to bhI bola liyA jAtA hai, to phira 'yaha TeparikaoNrDa hI hai', vaha jJAna phiTa kara do| praznakartA : mAno ki sAmanevAle kA TeparikaoNrDa baja rahA ho aura koI bhI vyakti bahuta adhika bolatA ho to bhI hameM samajha jAnA cAhie ki yaha rikaoNrDa bolii| rikaoNrDa ko rikaoNrDa samajheM, to hama lur3haka nahIM pdd'eNge| nahIM to tanmayAkAra ho jAe~ to kyA hogA? __ apane jJAna meM yaha 'vANI rikaoNrDa hai' vaha eka cAbI hai aura usameM hameM gappa nahIM mAranI hai| vaha hai hI rikoNrdd| aura rikaoNrDa mAnakara yadi Aja se AraMbha karo to? taba phira hai koI du:kha? apanI U~cI jAti meM lakar3I lekara mArAmArI nahIM krte| yahA~ to saba vANI ke hI dhamAke! aba use jIta lene ke bAda rahA kucha? isalie maiMne yaha khulAsA kiyA ki vANI rikaoNrDa hai| yaha bAhara khulAsA karane kA kAraNa kyA hai? usake kAraNa hamAre
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM... vANI, vyavahAra meM... vinAzI cIz2a hotI hai, vaha vastu iphekTiva hotI hai| apanA 'jJAna' milane ke bAda cAhe jaisI vANI ho to vANI iphekTiva nahIM hotii| phira bhI abhI hotA hai usakA kyA kAraNa? pahale kI avasthAe~ bhUle nahIM haiN| bAkI iphekTa hotA hai, use Apane jAnA ki sAmanevAle kI vANI hai vaha rikaoNrDa svarUpa hai, aura vaha caMdUbhAI ko kaha rahA hai, 'Apako' nahIM kaha rahA hai| isalie kisI bhI rAste 'Apako' asara nahIM kregii| use kucha aisA nahIM bolanA cAhie, aisA usake hAtha meM nahIM hai| usake cAhe jaise bola se hameM TakarAva nahIM honA caahie| vaha dharma hai| haaN| bola to cAhe jaise ho sakate haiN| bola kI koI aisI zarta hotI hai ki vaha bole to 'TakarAva hI karanA hai?' aura hamAre kAraNa sAmanevAle ko ar3acana ho vaisA bolanA, vaha sabase bar3A gunAha hai| ulTe vaisA koI bolA ho to use dabA denA cAhie, vaha manuSya kahalAtA hai! usa samaya hama kaheM ki yaha rikaoNrDa baja rahA hai| para aMdara vApisa 'vaha galata hai, vaha ThIka nahIM hai, aisA kyoM bola rahA hai?' vaisA riekzana bhI ho jAtA hai| dAdAzrI : nahIM, para aisA kisalie honA cAhie? yadi vaha rikaoNrDa hI baja rahA hai, Apa yadi jAna gae ho ki yaha rikaoNrDa hI baja rahA hai, to phira usakA asara hI nahIM hogA na?! praznakartA : para khada nizcita rUpa se mAnatA hai, sau pratizata mAnatA hai ki yaha rikaoNrDa hI hai, phira bhI vaha riekzana kyoM AtA hai? dAdAzrI : aisA hai ki vaha rikaoNrDa hI hai, aisA rikaoNrDa kI taraha to sArA Apane nakkI kiyA huA hai| para 'rikaoNrDa' hai, aisA ekjekTa jJAna usa ghar3I rahanA caahie| para vaha ekadama rikaoNrDa ke anusAra raha nahIM sktaa| kyoMki apanA ahaMkAra usa ghar3I kUdatA hai| isalie phira 'use' phira 'hameM' samajhAnA cAhie ki 'bhAI, yaha rikaoNrDa baja rahA hai| tU kisalie zora macAtA hai?' aisA hama kaheM taba phira aMdara ThaMDA par3a jAtA hai| yaha to merI paccIsa varSa kI umra thI, taba kI bAta hai| mere vahA~ eka AdamI aayaa| usa dina mujhe rikaoNrDa kI khabara nahIM thii| vaha mujhe bahuta hI kharAba zabda bola gayA, vaha riztedAra thaa| usa riztedAra ke sAtha jhagar3A karake kahA~ jAe?! maiMne unase kahA, 'baiThie na aba. baiThie na. aba vaha to bhUla ho gaI hogI? kabhI bhUla ho jAtI hai apnii|' phira cAya pilAkara unheM zAMta kiyaa| phira ve mujhe kahate haiM, 'maiM jA rahA hU~ ab|' taba maiMne kahA, 'vaha poTalI lete jAo aapkii| yaha jo Apane mujhe prasAda diyA thA, vaha maiMne cakhA nahIM hai| kyoMki binA taula kA thaa| vaha to mujhase liyA nahIM jAegA n| mujhe to taulA huA mAla ho to kAma kaa| binA taulA huA mAla hama lete nahIM haiN| isalie ApakA mAla Apa lete jaao|' isase ve zAMta ho ge| ___ zabda to ThaMDaka bhI dete haiM aura sulagAte bhI haiN| isalie iphekTiva haiM, aura iphekTiva sabhI vastue~ nizcetana hotI haiN| cetana iphekTiva nahIM hotaa| vANI bole usameM harja nahIM hai| vaha to koDavarDa hai| vaha phaTatA hai aura bolatA rahatA hai, usakA hameM rakSaNa nahIM karanA caahie| vANI bolo usameM harja nahIM hai, para 'hama sacce haiM' isa taraha usakA rakSaNa nahIM honA caahie| khuda kI bAta kA rakSaNa karanA, vahI sabase bar3I hiMsA hai| khada kI bAta saccI hI hai, vaisA sAmanevAle ke mana meM biThAne kA prayatna karanA hI hiMsA hai| _ 'hama sacce haiM, vahI rakSaNa kahalAtA hai aura rakSaNa nahIM ho to kucha bhI nahIM hai| gole sAre phUTa jAe~ge aura kisIko coTa nahIM lagegI bhut| ahaMkAra kA rakSaNa kareM, usase bahuta coTa lagatI hai| praznakartA : AMtarika sthiti meM, yAnI aMtaravijJAna meM vaha bolanA kisa taraha hotA hai aura bolanA baMda kisa taraha hotA hai? dAdAzrI : sAinTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDensa haiM saare| sAmanevAle ko jitanA denA ho, utanA nikalegA hamAre lie, aura nahIM denA
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM... ho to baMda ho jaaegaa| maiMne eka bhAI se kahA thA dAdara meN| vaha bhAI kahatA hai, 'dAdA ko badanAma kara dUMgA', aisA kaha rahA thaa| vaha AyA taba maiMne kahA, 'bolo na kuch|' use phira se kahA, 'bolo na kch|' taba usane to sApha-sApha kahA, 'yahA~ taka A rahA hai para bolA nahIM jaataa|' le bola na?! ye bolanevAle Ae!! yahA~ taka A rahA hai para bolA nahIM jAtA, mujhe sApha-sApha kahA, isalie samajha gyaa| eka akSara bhI nahIM bola sakate, merA hisAba cuka gayA hai| phira terI bisAta hI kyA hai? 32 vANI, vyavahAra meM... khAte ho| praznakartA : sAmanevAlA vyakti ulTA bole taba apane jJAna se samAdhAna rahatA hai, para mukhya savAla yaha rahatA hai ki hamase kaDavA nikalatA hai, to usa samaya hama yadi isa vAkya kA AdhAra leM to hameM ulTA lAyasensa mila jAtA hai? 6. vANI ke saMyoga, para-parAdhIna praznakartA : Apa aisA kahate ho ki, 'sthUla saMyoga, sUkSma saMyoga, vANI ke saMyoga para haiM aura parAdhIna haiN|' to vaha smjhaaie| dAdAzrI : sthUla saMyoga matalaba Apako calate-phirate havA milatI hai, phalAnA milatA hai, mAmA milate haiM, kAkA milate haiM, sA~pa milatA hai, ve sAre sthUla saMyoga haiN| kisIne bar3I-bar3I gAliyA~ dI aisA bhI milatA hai| yAnI ye bAhara ke saMyoga milate haiM, ve sAre sthUla saMyoga haiN| sUkSma saMyoga matalaba bhItara mana meM jarA vicAra Ate haiM, TeDhe Ate haiM. ulTe Ate haiM, kharAba Ate haiM, acche Ate haiM athavA aise vicAra Ate haiM ki 'abhI eksiDenTa ho jAegA to kyA hogA?' ve sAre sUkSma sNyog| bhItara mana meM saba Ate hI rahate haiN| aura vANI ke saMyoga matalaba hama bolate rahate haiM yA koI bole aura hama suneM, ve sAre vANI ke saMyoga! 'sthUla saMyoga, sUkSma saMyoga aura vANI ke saMyoga para haiM aura parAdhIna haiN|' itanA hI vAkya khuda kI samajha meM rahatA ho, khuda kI jAgRti meM rahatA ho to sAmanevAlA vyakti cAhe jo bole to bhI hameM jarA bhI asara nahIM hotaa| aura yaha vAkya kalpita nahIM hai| jo ekjekTa hai vaha kaha rahA huuN| maiM Apako aisA nahIM kahatA hU~ ki mere zabdoM kA mAna rakhakara clo| ekjekTa aisA hI hai| haqIqata Apako samajha meM nahIM Ane se Apa mAra dAdAzrI : isa vAkya kA AdhAra le hI nahI sakate na?! usa samaya to Apako pratikramaNa kA AdhAra diyA hai| sAmanevAle ko duHkha ho jAe vaisA bolA gayA ho to pratikramaNa kara lenA caahie| aura sAmanevAlA cAhe jo bole, taba vANI para hai aura parAdhIna hai, isakA svIkAra kiyaa| isalie Apako sAmanevAle se du:kha rahA hI nahIM na? aba Apa khuda ulTA bolo, phira usakA pratikramaNa karo, isalie Apake bola kA Apako duHkha nahIM rhaa| isalie isa prakAra sArA hala A jAtA hai| praznakartA : kaI bAra nahIM bolanA ho, phira bhI bola liyA jAtA hai| phira pachatAvA hotA hai| dAdAzrI : vANI se jo kucha bolA jAtA hai, usake hama 'jJAtA-dRSTA' haiN| para jise vaha duHkha pahu~cAtI hai, usakA pratikramaNa 'hameM bolanevAle' ke pAsa se karavAnA pdd'egaa| hameM to koI gAliyA~ sunAe to hama samajheM ki yaha 'aMbAlAla paTela' ko gAliyA~ de rahA hai| pudgala ko gAliyA~ de rahA hai| AtmA ko to jAna hI nahIM sakatA, pahacAna hI nahIM sakatA na! isalie hama svIkAra nahIM karate, 'hameM' chUtA nahIM hai| hama vItarAga rahate haiN| hameM usa para rAga-dveSa nahIM hotaa| hamAre, 'jJAnI' ke prayoga kaise hote haiM ki haraeka kriyA ko 'hama' 'dekhate haiN'| isalie maiM isa vANI ko rikaoNrDa kahatA hU~ na! yaha rikaoNrDa bola rahA hai use dekhatA rahatA hU~ ki 'rikaoNrDa kyA baja rahA hai aura kyA nahIM!' aura jagat ke loga tanmayAkAra ho jAte haiN| saMpUrNa nirtanmayAkAra raheM,
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________________ 33 vANI, vyavahAra meM... use kevalajJAna kahA hai| ____ jagat ke loga dekhate haiM, vaisA jJAnI bhI dekhate haiM, para jagat ke logoM kA dekhA huA kAma meM nahIM aataa| kyoMki unakA 'besamenTa' ahaMkAra hai| 'maiM caMdUlAla hU~' vaha usakA 'besamenTa' hai| aura 'apanA' 'besamenTa' 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' hai| isalie apanA dekhA huA kevalajJAna ke aMza meM jAtA hai| jitane aMza se hamane dekhA, jitane aMza se hamane apane khuda ko judA dekhA, vANI ko judA dekhA, ye 'caMdUbhAI' kyA kara rahe haiM vaha dekhA, utane aMza meM kevalajJAna utpanna huaa| hameM to koI gAliyA~ de to vaha hamAre jJAna meM hI hotA hai, 'yaha rikaoNrDa kyA bola rahA hai' vaha bhI hamAre jJAna meM hI hotA hai| rikaoNrDa galata bolA ho, vaha hamAre jJAna meM hI hotA hai| hameM pUrI jAgRti rahA karatI hai| aura saMpUrNa jAgRti vaha kevalajJAna hai| vyavahAra meM logoM ko vyavahArika jAgRti rahatI hai, vaha to ahaMkAra ke mAre rahatI hai| para yaha to zaddhAtmA hone ke bAda kI jAgRti hai| yaha aMza kevalajJAna kI jAgRti hai aura vahA~ se hI kalyANakArI hai| bhItara kI mazInarI ko DhIlA mata chodd'naa| hameM usake Upara dekharekha rakhanI cAhie ki kahA~-kahA~ ghisa rahA hai. kyA hotA hai. kisake sAtha vANI kaThora niklii| bole usameM harja nahIM hai, hameM 'dekhate' rahanA hai ki, 'ohoho, caMdUbhAI kaThoratA se bole!' vANI, vyavahAra meM... ke Upara rAga nhiiN| acchA-burA dekhane kI Apako jarUrata nahIM hai| kyoMki sattA hI mUla apane kAbU meM nahIM hai| 7. saca-jhUTha meM vANI kharca huI praznakartA : maskA lagAnA, vaha satya hai? jhUThI hA~ meM hA~ milAnA vaha? dAdAzrI : vaha satya nahIM khlaataa| maskA lagAne jaisI vastu hI nahIM hai| yaha to khuda kI khoja hai, khuda kI bhUla ke kAraNa dUsare ko maskA mAratA hai yh| praznakartA : kisIke sAtha miThAsa se boleM to usameM phAyadA hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, use sukha lagatA hai! praznakartA : vaha to phira patA cale taba to bahuta du:kha ho jAtA hogaa| kyoMki, koI bahuta mIThe bola hote haiM, aura koI sacce bola hote haiM, to hama aisA kahate haiM na ki yaha mIThA bolatA hai, para isase to dUsarA vyakti bhale hI kharAba bolatA hai para vaha acchA vyakti hai| dAdAzrI : sacce bola kise kahA jAtA hai? eka bhAI usakI madara ke sAtha saca bolA, ekadama satya bolaa| aura madara se kyA kahatA hai? "Apa mere pitAjI kI patnI ho' kahatA hai, vaha satya nahIM hai? taba madara ne kyA kahA? terA mu~ha phira mata dikhAnA, bhaaii| aba tU jA yahA~ se! mujhe tere bApa kI patnI bolatA hai| __ isalie satya kaisA honA cAhie? priya lage aisA honA caahie| sirpha priya lage vaisA ho to bhI nahIM clegaa| vaha hitakara honA cAhie, utane se hI nahIM clegaa| maiM satya, priya aura hitakArI hI bolatA hai, to bhI maiM adhika bolatA rahU~ na, to Apa kaho ki, 'aba cAcA baMda ho jAo n| aba mujhe bhojana ke lie uThane do n|' isalie vaha mita cAhie sahI mAtrA meM caahie| yaha koI reDiyo nahIM hai ki bolate rahe, kyA? matalaba satya-priya-hitakara aura mita, cAra guNAkAra ho to hI satya kahalAtA hai| praznakartA : para jaba taka nahIM bolA jAe taba taka acchA na? dAdAzrI : 'bolanA, nahIM bolanA' vaha apane hAtha meM rahA nahIM hai ab| bAhara kA to Apa dekhoge vaha bAta alaga hai, para Apake hI aMdara kA Apa sArA dekhate rahoge, usa samaya Apa kevalajJAna sattA meM hooge| para aMza kevalajJAna hotA hai, sarvAMza nhiiN| aMdara kharAba vicAra Ae unheM dekhanA, acche vicAra Ae unheM dekhnaa| kharAba ke Upara dveSa nahIM aura acche
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM... praznakartA : isa samAja meM bahuta loga jhUTha bolate haiM aura corIluccAI saba karate haiM, aura bahuta acchI taraha rahate haiN| saca bolate haiM, unheM saba takalIpheM AtI haiN| to aba kauna-sI lAina pakar3anI cAhie? jhUTha bolakara khuda ko thor3I zAMti rahe aisA karanA cAhie yA phira saca bolanA cAhie? vANI, vyavahAra meM... ___35 nahIM to sirpha nagna satya boleM, to vaha asatya kahalAtA hai| vANI kaisI honI cAhie? hita-mita-priya aura satya, ina cAra guNAkAroMvAlI honI caahie| aura dUsarI saba asatya haiN| vyavahAra vANI meM yaha niyama lAgU hotA hai| isameM to jJAnI kA hI kAma hai| cAroM hI guNAkAroMvAlI vANI sirpha 'jJAnI puruSa' ke pAsa hI hotI hai. sAmanevAle ke hita ke lie hI hotI hai, thor3I bhI khuda ke hita ke lie vANI nahIM hotI hai| jJAnI' ko 'potApaNaM' (maiM hU~ aura merA hai, aisA AropaNa, merApana) hotA hI nahIM hai, yadi 'potApaNuM' ho to vaha jJAnI hI nahIM hote hai| satya kise kahA jAtA hai? kisI jIva ko vANI se du:kha nahIM ho, vartana se daHkha nahIM ho aura mana se bhI usake lie kharAba vicAra nahIM kiyA jaae| vaha sabase bar3A satya hai| sabase bar3A siddhAMta hai| yaha riyala satya nahIM hai| yaha aMtima vyavahAra satya hai| praznakartA : manuSya jhUTha kisalie bolatA hai? dAdAzrI : mere pAsa koI jhUTha nahIM boltaa| mere pAsa to itanA taka bolate haiM ki, dasa-bAraha varSa kI umra kI lar3akI ho aura Aja pacAsa varSa kI huI ho, usane bAraha varSa se lekara pacAsa varSa taka usane kyAkyA kiyA vaha sabakucha mujhe spaSTa likhakara de detI hai| nahIM to isa duniyA meM huA hI nahIM, aisaa| koI strI khuda kA z2Ahira kare aisA huA nahIM hai| aisI hajAroM striyA~ mere pAsa AtI haiM aura maiM unake pApa dho detA huuN| praznakartA : manuSya binA kAraNa jhUTha bolane ke lie prerita hotA hai| usake pIche kauna-sA kAraNa kAma karatA hogA? dAdAzrI: krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha ke kAraNa karate haiM ve| koI bhI vastu prApta karanI hai, yA to mAna prApta karanA hai yA lakSmI prApta karanI hai, kucha to caahie| usake lie jhUTha bolatA hai yA to bhaya hai, bhaya ke mAre jhUTha bolatA hai| aMdara chupA-chupA bhaya hai ki 'koI mujhe kyA kahegA?' aisA kucha bhI bhaya hotA hai| phira dhIre-dhIre jhUTha kI Adata hI par3a jAtI hai| phira bhaya nahIM hotA to bhI jhUTha bola letA hai| dAdAzrI : aisA hai na, pahale jhUTha bolA thA usakA yaha phala AyA hai, yahA~ cakha rahe ho ArAma se (!) dUsarA thor3A saca bolA thA, usakA phala use milA hai| aba isa samaya jhUTha bolatA hai, to usakA phala use milegaa| Apa saca bologe to usakA phala milegaa| yaha to phala cakhate haiN| nyAya hai, bilakula nyAya hai| Aja eka vyakti kI parIkSA kA rijalTa AyA aura vaha pAsa ho gyaa| aura hama nApAsa hue| pAsa honevAlA vyakti Aja bhaTakatA rahatA hai, para parIkSA dete samaya karekTa dI hotI hai| isalie yaha saba jo AtA hai, vaha phala AtA hai| usa phala ko zAMtipUrvaka bhoga lenA usakA nAma purussaarth| praznakartA : kitane hI jhUTha boleM to bhI satya meM khapa jAtA hai aura kitane hI saca boleM to bhI jhUTha meM khapatA hai| yaha paz2ala (pahelI) kyA hai?! dAdAzrI : vaha unake pApa aura puNya ke AdhAra para hotA hai| unake pApa kA udaya ho to ve saca bolate haiM to bhI jhUTha meM calA jAtA hai| jaba puNya kA udaya ho taba jhUTha bole to bhI loga use saca svIkArate haiM, cAhe jaisA jhUThA kare to bhI cala jAtA hai| praznakartA : to use koI nukasAna nahIM hotA? dAdAzrI : nukasAna to hai, para agale bhava kaa| isa bhava meM to use pichale janma kA phala milaa| aura yaha jhUTha bolA na, usakA phala use agale bhava meM milegaa| abhI yaha usane bIja boyaa| bAqI, yaha koI aMdhera nagarI nahIM hai ki cAhe jaisA cala jAegA!
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM... 37 praznakartA : jAna-bUjhakara galata kareM aura phira pratikramaNa kara lU~gA kaheM, to vaha calegA? dAdAzrI : nahIM, jAna-bUjhakara mata krnaa| para galata ho jAe to pratikramaNa kara lenA caahie| praznakartA : dUsaroM ke bhale ke lie jhUTha bolanA, vaha pApa mAnA jAegA? dAdAzrI : mUla to jhUTha bolanA vahI pApa mAnA jAtA hai| to dUsaroM ke bhale ke lie boleM to eka tarapha puNya baMdhA aura eka tarapha pApa bNdhaa| isalie isameM thor3A-bahuta to pApa rahatA hai| jhUTha bolane se kyA nukasAna hotA hogA? vizvAsa uTha jAtA hai apane para se| aura vizvAsa uTha gayA matalaba manuSya kI qImata khatama! praznakartA : aura jhUTha pakar3A jAe taba kyA dazA hotI hai? dAdAzrI : hameM kahanA cAhie na ki, 'pakar3A gayA hamArA' aura maiM to kaha dU~ ki 'bhAI, maiM pakar3A gyaa|' harja kyA hai? phira vaha bhI ha~se aura hama bhI hNse| usase vaha samajha jAtA hai ki isameM kucha lenA-denA nahIM hai yA nukasAna ho vaisA nahIM hai| praznakartA : mAna lo ki hamArA jhUTha Apane pakar3a liyA, to phira Apako kyA hotA hai? dAdAzrI : kucha bhI nahIM hotaa| bahata bAra maiM jhaTha pakaDatA haiN| maiM jAnatA hU~ ki aisA hI hotA hai| usase adhika AzA hama kisa taraha se rakheM? __anaMta janmoM se jhUTha hI bole haiN| saca bole hI kaba haiM? hama pUche, 'kahA~ gae the?''rAste meM ghUmane gayA thA aisA kahatA hai, aura gayA hotA hai sinemA meN| hA~, para usakI to mAfI mA~ga lenI caahie| praznakartA : paramArtha ke kAma ke lie thor3A jhUTha boleM to usakA vANI, vyavahAra meM... doSa lagatA hai? dAdAzrI : paramArtha matalaba AtmA hetu jo kucha bhI kiyA jAe, usakA doSa nahIM lgtaa| aura deha ke lie jo kucha bhI kiyA jAe, galata kiyA jAe to doSa lagatA hai aura acchA kiyA jAe to guNa lagatA hai| Atmahetu ho na, usake jo-jo kArya haiM, unameM koI doSa nahIM hai| sAmanevAle ko hamAre nimitta se du:kha par3e to usakA doSa lagatA hai! __ jhUTha bolakara bhI AtmA kA karate hoMge to harja nahIM hai aura saca bolakara bhI deha kA hita karoge to harja hai| saca bolakara bhautika kA hita karoge to bhI harja hai| para jhUTha bolakara AtmA ke lie karoge na, to hitakArI hai| praznakartA : kisIkA acchA kAma karane ke lie hama jhUTha boleM, to kise doSa lagegA? aisA kiyA jA sakatA hai? dAdAzrI : jhUTha bole use doSa lagatA hai| praznakartA : koI jhUTha bolane ke lie dabAva DAle to? dUsare kisIkA acchA ho rahA hai isalie Apa jhUTha bolo, aisA koI dabAva DAle to? dAdAzrI : to aisA kahanA cAhie ki, 'bhAI, maiM Apake dabAva se boluuNgaa| maiM to totA huuN| yaha to Apake dabAva se totA hokara boluuNgaa| bAqI, maiM nahIM boltaa|' phira totA bole usa taraha se bolnaa| Apa khuda mata bola utthnaa| totA hokara bolnaa| hama kaheM 'AyA rAma' to totA kahegA, 'AyA raam|' aise bolanA caahie| mujhe 'jJAna' nahIM huA thA na, taba korTa meM eka bAra jAnA huA thaa| gavAhI denI thii| taba vakIla kahatA hai ki, 'yaha maiM Apako kahU~ vaisA Apako bolanA hai|' maiMne kahA, 'nahIM bhaaii| maiM jAnatA hU~ utanA boluuNgaa| maiM koI ApakA kahA huA bolanevAlA nahIM haiN|' taba vaha kahatA hai, 'majhe yahA~ kahA~ Apake lie khar3A kiyA? maiM jhUThA diluuNgaa| merI AbarU jaaegii|
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM... aise gavAha mileM to hamArA to pUrA kesa hI ur3a jaae|' taba maiMne kahA, 'isakA upAya kyA hai?' taba vakIla kahatA hai, 'hama kaheM utanA bolanA hai|' phira maiMne kahA, 'kala socakara btaauuNgaa|' phira rAta ko aMdara se javAba milA, ki apane totA bana jaao| vakIla ke kahane se kaha rahA hU~, vaisA bhAva rahanA cAhie, aura phira bolo| bAqI, kisIke lie acchA kAma karate ho to ho sake taba taka jhaTha nahIM bolanA caahie| kisIke acche ke lie corI nahIM karanI caahie| kisIke acche ke lie hiMsA nahIM karanI caahie| saba apanI hI jokhimadArI hai| jhUTha bolane kI ApakI icchA hai aMdara? thor3I-bahuta bhI? praznakartA : nhiiN| dAdAzrI : phira bhI bola liyA jAtA hai, vaha haqIqata hai na! to jaba jhUTha bolA jAe aura Apako patA cale ki yaha jhUTha bolA gayA ki turanta 'dAdA' ke pAsa mAfI mA~ga lenA ki 'dAdA, mujhe jhUTha nahIM bolanA hai, phira bhI jhUTha bola liyA gyaa| majhe mAfa kro| aba phira jhUTha nahIM boluuNgaa|' aura phira bhI yadi aisA ho jAe to parezAna nahIM rahanA hai| mAfI mA~gate rahanA hai| usase usake gunAha kI vahA~ phira noMdha nahIM hogii| mAfI mA~gI matalaba noMdha nahIM hogaa| vANI, vyavahAra meM... dAdAzrI : bezaka! para jhUTha bole hoM na, usase to jhUTha bolane ke bhAva karate ho, vaha usase bhI bar3hakara karma kahalAtA hai| jhUTha bolanA to mAno karmaphala hai| jhUTha bolane ke bhAva hI, jhUTha bolane kA hamArA nizcaya, usase karmabaMdhana hotA hai| ApakI samajha meM AyA? yaha vAkya kucha helpa karegA Apako? kyA helpa karegA? praznakartA : jhUTha bolanA baMda kara denA caahie| dAdAzrI : nahIM, jhUTha bolane kA abhiprAya hI chor3a denA cAhie aura jhUTha bolA jAe to pazcAtApa karanA cAhie ki, 'kyA karU~?! aise jhUTha nahIM bolanA caahie|' para jhUTha bolA jAnA vaha baMda nahIM ho skegaa| para vaha abhiprAya baMda ho jaaegaa| 'aba Aja se jhUTha nahIM bolU~gA, jhUTha bolanA mahApApa hai, mahA duHkhadAyI hai aura jhUTha bolanA hI baMdhana hai|' aisA yadi ApakA abhiprAya ho gayA to Apake jhUTha bolane ke pApa baMda ho jaaeNge| aura pUrva meM jaba taka yaha bhAva baMda nahIM kiyA thA, taba taka usake riekzana (pratikriyAe~) haiM, utane bAkI rheNge| utanA hisAba Apako aaegaa| Apako phira utanA jhUTha anivArya rUpa se bolanA par3egA, taba usakA pazcAtApa kara lenaa| aba pazcAtApa karate ho, phira bhI jo jhUTha bole, to usa karmaphala kA bhI phala to AegA aura phira use bhugatanA hI pdd'egaa| taba loga Apake ghara se bAhara nikalakara ApakI badanAmI kareMge ki, 'kyA, ye caMdUbhAI, par3he likhe AdamI, aisA jhUTha bole? yaha unakI yogyatA hai?!' arthAt badanAmI kA phala bhugatanA par3egA phira, pazcAtApa karoge to bhii| aura yadi pahale se vaha pAnI baMda kara diyA ho, 'kaoNjeja' hI baMda kara die jAe~, taba phira 'kaoNz2ez2a' kA phala aura usakA bhI phala nahIM hogaa| isalie hama kyA kahate haiM? jhUTha bolA gayA para 'aisA nahIM bolanA cAhie' isa taraha se usakA tU virodhI hai na? hA~, to yaha jhUTha bolanA tujhe pasaMda nahIM hai, aisA nizcaya ho gayA khlaaegaa| jhUTha bolane kA terA abhiprAya nahIM hai na, isalie terI jimmedArI kA 'enDa' (aMta) A jAtA praznakartA : hama hararoz2a bAteM karate haiM ki yaha galata hai, nahIM bolanA cAhie thA, phira bhI vaha kyoM ho jAtA hai? nahIM karanA hai phira bhI kyoM ho jAtA hai? dAdAzrI : z2arUrata se adhika akla aMdara bharakara lAe haiM islie| hamane eka bhI dina kabhI kisIko kucha kahA nahIM hai ki aisA nahIM karanA caahie| yadi kahA ho, to bhI satarka ho jAte haiM usa ghdd'ii| praznakartA : hama jhUTha bole hoM, vaha bhI karma hI bAMdhA kahA jAegA na?
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM... praznakartA : para jise jhUTha bolane kI Adata ho gaI hai, vaha kyA kare? dAdAzrI : use to phira sAtha-sAtha pratikramaNa karane kI Adata DAlanI pdd'egii| aura pratikramaNa kare, taba phira jokhimadArI hamArI hai| isalie abhiprAya badalo! jhUTha bolanA vaha jIvana ke aMta samAna hai, jIvana kA aMta lAnA aura jhUTha bolanA donoM samAna haiM, aisA 'DisAiDa' (nizcita) karanA pdd'egaa| aura phira saca kI pUMcha mata pkdd'naa| praznakartA : bolane meM janma se hI takalIfa hai| dAdAzrI : pichale avatAra meM jIbha lar3AI thI na, hara jagaha gAliyA~ dI hoM na, usakI jIbha calI jAtI hai phir| phira kyA hogA? bolane meM kucha bhI bAkI rakhate haiM? karma kama hoMge to jIbha phira se khula jAegI vaapis| pA~ca-sAta sAla ke bAda, vaisA kucha bhI nahIM rhegaa| vANI, vyavahAra meM... dAdAzrI : eka to, use garaja hotI hai, garajavAlA sahana karatA hai| dUsarA kleza nahIM ho isalie sahana karatA hai| tIsarA AbarU nahIM jAe, isalie sahana kara letA hai| kuttA bhauMke parantu hameM nahIM bhauMkanA hai, aise kisI bhI kAraNa se calA letA hai, nibAha lete haiM log| 8. duHkhadAyI vANI ke karane cAhie pratikramaNa bhagavAna ke yahA~ satya aura asatya, donoM hote hI nahIM haiN| yaha to yahA~ samAjavyavasthA hai| hinduoM kA satya, musalamAnoM kA asatya ho jAtA hai| aura musalamAnoM kA satya, vaha hinduoM kA asatya ho jAtA hai| yaha sArI samAja-vyavasthA hai| bhagavAna ke vahA~ saccA-jhUThA kucha hotA hI nhiiN| bhagavAna to itanA kahate haiM ki, 'kisIko du:kha ho to hameM pratikramaNa karanA caahie|' du:kha nahIM honA cAhie apane se| Apa 'caMdUbhAI' the, vaha isa duniyA meM saca hai| bAqI, bhagavAna ke vahA~ to vaha 'caMdUbhAI' hI nahIM hai| yaha satya bhagavAna ke vahA~ asatya hai| saMsAra cale, saMsAra chue nahIM, bAdhaka nahIM ho aura kAma ho jAe, vaisA hai| sirpha hamArI AjJA kA ArAdhana karanA hai| 'caMdUbhAI' jhUTha boleM, to bhI apane yahA~ harja nahIM hai| jhUTha boleM to sAmanevAle ko nukasAna huaa| to hama 'caMdabhAI' se kaheM, 'pratikramaNa kara lo|' jhaTha bolane kA prakRti guNa hai, isalie bole bagaira rahegA nhiiN| jhUTha bolane ke lie maiM Apatti nahIM utthaataa| maiM jhUTha bolane ke bAda pratikramaNa nahIM karo to Apatti uThAtA huuN| jhUTha boleM aura pratikramaNa ke bhAva hoM, usa samaya jo dhyAna baratatA hai, vaha dharmadhyAna hotA hai| loga dharmadhyAna kyA hai, use DhUMDhate haiN| jhUTha bola liyA jAe, taba 'dAdA' ke pAsa mAfI mA~ga lenI cAhie aura phira jhUTha nahIM bolA jAe, vaisI zaktiyA~ mA~ganI caahie| praznakartA : mAnoM ki jIbha se kahA, to use merI tarapha se to duHkha ho gayA kahalAegA na? dAdAzrI : hA~, vaha duHkha to apanI icchA ke viruddha huA hai na, isalie hameM pratikramaNa karanA hai| yahI usakA hisAba hogA, jo cuka gyaa| khoTI vANI bolane ke kAraNa yaha jIbha calI gaI na! jIbha kA jitanA durupayoga kiyA utanI jIbha calI jAtI hai| praznakartA : merA svabhAva, mere vacana kaThora haiN| kisIko bhI Thesa pahu~cA dete haiM, duHkha ho jAtA hai| mujhe aisA nahIM hai ki maiM use duHkha pahu~cAne ke lie bola rahA huuN| dAdAzrI : duHkha ho vaisA nahIM bolanA caahie| kisI jIva ko duHkha ho, vaisI vANI bolanA, vaha bahuta bar3A gunAha hai| praznakartA : yaha aisI vANI hone kA kAraNa kyA hai? dAdAzrI : rauba jamAne ke lie, dUsaroM para rauba jama jAe islie| praznakartA : hama rauba jamAne ke lie kaThoratA se bole aura sAmanevAlA vyakti sahana kara letA hai| vaha sahana karatA hai, vaha kisa AdhAra para sahana karatA hai?
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________________ 44 vANI, vyavahAra meM... vANI, vyavahAra meM... praznakartA : hama kucha kaheM to use mana meM kharAba bhI bahuta lagegA na? dAdAzrI : hA~, vaha to saba kharAba lgegaa| galata huA ho to burA lagegA n| hisAba cukAnA par3egA, vaha to cukAnA hI par3egA n| usakA dUsarA koI upAya hI nahIM hai| praznakartA : aMkuza nahIM rahatA, isalie vANI dvArA nikala jAtA dAdAzrI : hA~, vaha to nikala jAtA hai| para nikala jAe usa para hameM pratikramaNa karanA hai, basa dUsarA kucha nhiiN| pazcAtApa karake, aura phira se 'aisA nahIM karU~gA', aisA nizcaya karanA caahie| phira pharasata mile taba usake lie bAra-bAra pratikramaNa karate hI rahanA, tAki saba narama par3a jaae| jo-jo kaThina phAileM haiM, utanI hI narama karanI hai, sirpha do-cAra phAileM kaThina hotI haiM, adhika nahIM hotI na! praznakartA : apanI icchA nahIM ho phira bhI kleza ho jAtA hai, vANI kharAba nikale to kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : vaha aMtima sTepsa (sIr3hiyoM) para hai| jaba rAstA pUrA hone AyA ho na, taba hameM bhAva nahIM ho to bhI galata ho jAtA hai| to hameM vahA~ para kyA karanA cAhie ki pazcAtApa leM to miTa jAegA basa / galata ho jAe to itanA hI upAya hai, dUsarA koI upAya nahIM hai| vaha bhI jaba vaha kArya pUrA hone AyA taba aMdara kharAba karane kA bhAva nahIM hotA hai aura kharAba kArya ho jAtA hai| nahIM to vaha kArya abhI adhUrA hotA hai, hameM ulTA karane kA bhAva bhI hotA hai aura ulTA kArya hotA bhI hai, donoM hote haiN| praznakartA : hetu acchA hai to phira pratikramaNa kisalie kareM? dAdAzrI : pratikramaNa to karanA par3egA, sAmanevAle ko duHkha huA n| aura vyavahAra meM loga kaheMge na, dekho yaha strI kaise pati ko DA~TatI hai| phira pratikramaNa karanA pdd'egaa| jo A~kha se dikhe, usakA pratikramaNa karanA caahie| aMdara hetu ApakA sone kA ho, para kisa kAma kA? vaha hetu kAma nahIM aaegaa| hetu zuddha sone kA ho to bhI hameM pratikramaNa karanA pdd'egaa| bhUla huI ki pratikramaNa karanA pdd'egaa| ina sabhI mahAtmAoM kI icchA hai, aba jagat kalyANa karane kI bhAvanA hai| hetu acchA hai, para to bhI nahIM clegaa| pratikramaNa to pahale karanA pdd'egaa| kapar3oM para dAg2a par3e to dho dete ho na? vaise ye kapar3e ke Upara ke dAg2a haiN| yaha 'hamArA' TeparikaoNrDara bajatA hai, usameM kucha bhUlacUka ho jAe to hameM turanta hI usakA pachatAvA le lenA hotA hai| nahIM to nahIM cltaa| TeparikaoNrDara kI taraha nikalatA hai, yAnI hamArI vANI binA mAlikI kI hai, to bhI hama para jimmedArI AtI hai| loga to kaheMge na ki, 'para sAhaba, Tepa to ApakI hI hai na?' aisA kaheMge yA nahIM kaheMge? kyA dasare kI Tepa thI? isalie ve zabda hameM dhone par3ate haiN| nahIM bola sakate ulTe shbd| pratikramaNa to aMtima sAinsa hai| isalie Apake sAtha majhase kaThoratA se bola liyA gayA ho, Apako bahuta duHkha nahIM huA ho phira bhI mujhe samajha lenA cAhie ki yaha mujhase kaThoratA se bolA hI nahIM jA sktaa| isalie isa jJAna ke AdhAra para apanI bhUla patA calatI hai| isalie mujhe Apake nAma kA pratikramaNa karanA pdd'egaa| praznakartA : arthAt vANI bolate samaya, hameM apane vyU poinTa se karekTa laga rahA ho, para sAmanevAle ko usake vyU poinTa se karekTa nahIM laga rahA ho taba? dAdAzrI : vaha sArI vANI bilakula galata hai| sAmanevAle ko phiTa ho jAe, vaha karekTa vANI kahalAtI hai ! sAmanevAle ko phiTa ho jAe vaisI hameM vANI bolanI caahie| praznakartA : hama sAmanevAle se kucha kaha deM, apane mana meM aMdara kucha bhI nahIM ho usake bAvajUda bhI hama use kaheM to use aisA lagatA hai ki 'yaha ThIka nahIM kaha rahe haiM, galata hai|' to use atikramaNa kahA jAtA hai?
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM... dAdAzrI : use duHkha hotA ho to hameM pratikramaNa kara lenA caahie| hameM usameM kyA mehanata laganevAlI hai? kisIko da:khI karake hama sakhI nahIM ho skte| vANI, vyavahAra meM... acchA, aisA nahIM ho to acchaa|' hama aisA kaha sakate haiN| para hama usake baoNsa (UparI) hoM, usa taraha se bAta karate haiM na, isalie burA lagatA hai| kharAba zabda hoM, ve vinaya ke sAtha kahane caahie| praznakartA : vyavahAra meM koI galata kara rahA ho, use TokanA par3atA hai| to vaha karanA cAhie yA nahIM? dAdAzrI : vyavahAra meM TokanA par3atA hai, para vaha ahaMkAra sahita hotA hai| isalie usakA pratikramaNa karanA caahie| praznakartA : Toke nahIM to vaha sira para car3hegA? dAdAzrI : TokanA to par3atA hai, para kahanA AnA caahie| kahanA nahIM AtA, vyavahAra nahIM AtA, isalie ahaMkAra sahita Tokate haiN| isalie bAda meM usakA pratikramaNa kara lenA caahie| Apa sAmanevAle ko Toko, taba sAmanevAle ko burA to lagegA, para usakA pratikramaNa karate rahoge to chaha mahIne meM, bAraha mahIne meM vANI aisI nikalegI ki sAmanevAle ko mIThI lgegii| praznakartA : hameM kitanI hI bAra sAmanevAle ke hita ke lie use TokanA par3atA hai, rokanA par3atA hai| to usa samaya use duHkha pahu~ce to? dAdAzrI : hA~, kahane kA adhikAra hai, para kahanA AnA caahie| yaha to bhAI AyA ki use dekhate hI kaheMge ki, 'tU aisA hai aura tU vaisA hai|' taba vahA~ atikramaNa huA khlaaegaa| sAmanevAle ko daHkha ho jAe vaisA ho, to hameM kahanA cAhie, 'he caMdUbhAI pratikramaNa kro| atikramaNa kyoM kiyA? phira aisA nahIM bolUMgA aura yaha bolA usakA pazcAtApa karatA huuN|' itanA hI pratikramaNa karanA par3atA hai| praznakartA : para ve galata bolate hoM yA galata karate hoM to bhI hameM nahIM bolanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : bolanA caahie| aisA kaha sakate haiM, 'aisA nahIM ho to praznakartA : burA zabda bolate samaya vinaya raha sakatA hai? dAdAzrI : vaha raha sakatA hai, vahI vijJAna kahalAtA hai| kyoMki 'DrAmeTika' (nATakIya) hai na! hotA hai lakSmIcaMda aura kahatA hai, 'maiM bhartRhari rAjA hU~, isa rAnI kA pati hU~, phira bhikSA de de maiyA piNglaa|' kahakara A~khoM meM se pAnI TapakAtA hai| taba, 'are, tU to lakSmIcaMda hai na? tU sacamuca rotA hai?' taba kahegA, 'maiM kyoM sacamuca roU~? yaha to mujhe abhinaya karanA hI par3egA, nahIM to merI tanakhvAha kATa leNge|' usa taraha se abhinaya karanA hai| jJAna milane ke bAda yaha to nATaka hai| praznakartA : pratikramaNa karane hoM, ve mana se karane haiM yA par3hakara athavA bolakara? dAdAzrI : nhiiN| mana se hii| mana se kareM, bolakara kareM, cAhe jisa taraha ki merA usake prati jo doSa huA hai, usakI kSamA mA~gatA huuN| vaha mana meM boleM to bhI clegaa| mAnasika aTeka huA, isalie usake pratikramaNa karane haiM bs| praznakartA : eka kharAba maukA AyA ho, sAmanevAlA vyakti Apake lie kharAba bola rahA ho yA kara rahA ho, to usake riekzana se hameM aMdara jo gussA AtA hai, vaha jIbha se zabda nikalavA detA hai, para mana aMdara se kahatA hai ki, yaha galata hai| to bola detA hai usakA doSa adhika hai yA mana se kare hue ke doSa adhika haiM? dAdAzrI : jIbha se kareM na, vaha jhagar3A abhI ke abhI hisAba cukAkara calA jAegA aura mana se kiyA huA jhagar3A Age bddh'egaa| jIbha se kareM na, vaha to hama sAmanevAle se kaheM, to vaha vApisa lauTA detA hai| turanta usakA phala mila jAtA hai| aura mana se kare to usakA phala to
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________________ 47 vANI, vyavahAra meM... vaha phala pakegA, usakA abhI bIja boyA hai| isalie kaoNjez2a kahalAte haiN| yAnI kaoNjeja nahIM par3eM, usake lie mana se ho gayA ho to mana se pratikramaNa karanA caahie| 9. vigraha, pati-patnI meM manuSya hokara prApta saMsAra meM dakhala nahIM kare, to saMsAra itanA sarala aura sIdhA calatA rhegaa| para yaha prApta saMsAra meM daqhala hI karatA rahatA hai| jAgA taba se hI dkhl| aura patnI bhI jAge taba se dakhala hI karatI rahatI hai, ki isa bacce ko jarA jhUlA bhI nahIM jhulaate| dekho yaha kaba se ro rahA hai ! taba vApisa pati kahegA, 'tere peTa meM thA taba taka kyA maiM use jhUlA DAlane AtA thA! tere peTa meM se bAhara nikalA to tujhe rakhanA hai', khegaa| vaha sIdhI na rahe to kyA kare phira? vANI, vyavahAra meM... dAdAzrI : aise vANI itanI mIThI bolate haiM ki kahane se pahale hI vaha samajha jaae| praznakartA : yaha kaThora vANI-karkaza vANI ho, use kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : karkaza vANI, vahI daqhala hotI hai! karkaza vANI ho to usameM itane zabda jor3ane par3eMge ki 'maiM vinatI karatA hU~, itanA krnaa|' 'maiM vinatI...' itanA zabda jor3akara kho| praznakartA : aba hama aisA kaheM ki, 'e..ya.., yaha thAlI yahA~ se utthaa|' aura hama dhIre se kaheM ki 'tU yaha thAlI yahA~ se uThA le n|' arthAt vaha jo bolane kA prezara hai.... dAdAzrI : vaha daqhala nahIM khlaataa| aba usake Upara rauba mAro to daqhala khlaaegaa| praznakartA : yAnI dhIre se bolanA hai| dAdAzrI : nahIM, vaha to dhIre se bolo to clegaa| para vaha to dhIre se bole to bhI dakhala kara detA hai| isalie Apako kahanA hai, 'maiM vinatI karatA hU~, tU itanA karanA na!' usameM zabda jor3anA pdd'egaa| praznakartA : kaIbAra ghara meM bar3I lar3AI ho jAtI hai, to kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : samajhadAra vyakti ho na to lAkha rupaye deM, to bhI jhagar3A nahIM kre| aura yaha to binA paise ke jhagar3A karate haiN| to ve anAr3I nahIM to kyA hai? bhagavAna mahAvIra ko karma khapAne ke lie sATha mIla calakara anAr3I kSetra meM jAnA par3A thaa| aura Aja ke loga puNyazAlI haiM ki ghara baiThe anAr3I kSetra hai! kaise dhanyabhAgya! yaha to atyaMta lAbhadAyI hai, karma khapAne ke lie, yadi sIdhA rahe to| ghara meM sAmanevAlA pUche, salAha mA~ge, taba hI javAba denA caahie| binA pUche salAha dene baiTha jAo aura use bhagavAna ne ahaMkAra kahA hai| pati pUche ki, 'ye pyAle kahA~ rakhane haiM?' to patnI javAba detI hai ki, praznakartA : daqhala nahIM karo kahA hai Apane, to vaha saba jaise ho vaise par3e rahane denA cAhie? ghara meM bahuta loga hoM, to bhI? dAdAzrI : par3e nahIM rakhanA cAhie aura dakhala bhI nahIM karanI caahie| praznakartA : aisA kisa taraha se hogA? dAdAzrI: bhalA dakhala to hotI hogI? dakhala to ahaMkAra kA pAgalapana kahalAtA hai! praznakartA : koI kArya ho to kaha sakate haiM ghara meM ki itanA karanA, isa taraha? dAdAzrI : para kahane-kahane meM pharka hotA hai| praznakartA : binA imozana ke kahanA hai| imozanala nahIM hoM aura kaheM aisA?
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM... 'phalAnI jagaha para rkho|' to hameM vahA~ para rakha dene caahie| usake badale vaha kahe ki, 'tujhe akkala nahIM, yahA~ vApisa kahA~ rakhane ko tU kahatI hai?' taba phira patnI kahegI ki, 'akkala nahIM tabhI to maiMne Apako aisA kahA, aba ApakI akkala se rkho|' isakA kaba aMta Ae? ye saMyogoM ke TakarAva haiM sirpha! praznakartA : para sabakI buddhi thoDe hI samAna hotI hai dAdA! vicAra samAna nahIM hote| hama acchA kareM taba bhI koI samajhatA nahIM, usakA kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : aisA kucha bhI nahIM hai| sAre hI vicAra samajha meM Ate haiN| para saba khuda apane Apa ko aisA mAnate haiM ki mere vicAra sacce haiM aisaa| usI prakAra bAqI sabhI ke vicAra galata haiN| socanA nahIM AtA hai| bhAna hI nahIM hai vahA~ pr| manuSya kI taraha bhI bhAna nahIM hai| ye to mana meM mAna baiThe haiM ki maiM bI.e. aura grejyueTa ho gyaa| para manuSya kI taraha bhAna ho to kleza hI nahIM ho| saba jagaha khuda eDajesTebala ho jaae| ye daravAz2e khar3akeM, to bhI acchA nahIM lagatA hameM, daravAjA havA se TakarAe to Apako acchA lagatA hai? vANI, vyavahAra meM... usake Upara rauba mAranA hai| isa taraha patipana batAnA hai| phira bur3hApe meM Apako bahuta acchA (!) degii| pati kacha mA~ge to, 'aise kyA kaca-kaca karate rahate ho, soe par3e raho na', khegii| isalie jAna-bUjhakara par3e rahanA par3atA hai| yAnI AbarU hI jAtI hai n| isake icchA to maryAdA meM rho| ghara para jhagar3A-vagar3A kyoM karate ho? logoM se kaho, samajhAo ki ghara meM jhagar3e mata krnaa| bAhara jAkara karanA aura bahanoM, tuma bhI mata karanA hA~! praznakartA : vANI se kucha bhI kleza nahIM hotaa| para mana meM kleza utpanna huA ho, vANI se nahIM kahA ho, para mana meM bahuta hotA hai, to use kleza rahita ghara kahanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : vaha aura adhika kleza kahalAtA hai| mana becainI kA anubhava kare usa samaya kleza hotA hI hai aura bAda meM hameM kahegA. 'majhe caina nahIM pdd'taa|' vaha kleza kI nishaanii| halke prakAra kA ho yA bhArI prakAra kaa| bhArI prakAra ke kleza to aise hote haiM ki hArTa bhI phela ho jAtA hai| kitane to aisA bola bolate haiM ki hArTa taranta khAlI ho jAtA hai| sAmanevAle ko ghara khAlI hI karanA par3atA hai, ghara kA mAlika A jAe, phira!! praznakartA : kisIne jAna-bUjhakara koI vastu pheMka dI to vahA~ para kauna-sA eDajasTamenTa lenA cAhie? dAdAzrI : vaha to pheMka diyA, para beTA pheMka de to bhI hameM 'dekhate' rahanA hai| bApa beTe ko pheMka de to hameM dekhate rahanA hai| taba kyA hameM pati ko pheMka denA cAhie? eka ko to aspatAla bhejanA pdd'aa| aba vApisa do ko aspatAla meM bhejanA hai?! aura phira jaba use maukA milegA taba vaha hameM pchaadd'egaa| phira tIsare ko aspatAla jAnA pdd'egaa| praznakartA : to phira kucha kahanA hI nahIM cAhie? dAdAzrI : kaho, para samyak kahanA, yadi bolanA Ae to| nahIM to kutte kI taraha bhauMkate rahane kA artha kyA hai? isalie samyak khnaa| praznakartA : nhiiN| dAdAzrI : to phira manuSya jhagar3eM to kaise acchA lagegA? kutte jhagar3ate hoM to bhI acchA nahIM lagatA hmeN| yaha to karma ke udaya se jhagar3e calate rahate haiM, para jIbha se ulTA bolanA baMda kro| bAta ko peTa meM hI rakho, ghara meM yA bAhara bolanA baMda kro| kaI striyA~ kahatI haiM, 'do dhaula lagAo to acchA, para ye Apa jo bolate ho na to merI chAtI meM ghAva lagate haiM!' aba lo, chUtA nahIM aura kaise ghAva lagate haiM! khuda Ter3hA hai muaa| aba rAste meM z2arA chappara para se eka itanA patthara kA Tukar3A gire, khUna nikale, vahA~ kyoM nahIM bolatA? yaha to jAna-bUjhakara
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM... praznakartA : samyak matalaba kisa prakAra kA? dAdAzrI : ohoho! Apane isa bacce ko kyoM pheMkA? kyA kAraNa hai usakA? taba vaha kahegA ki, jAna-bUjhakara maiM pheMkU~gA kyA? vaha to mere hAtha meM se chUTa gayA aura gira gyaa| praznakartA : vaha to usane galata kahA na? dAdAzrI : vaha jhUTha bole vaha hameM nahIM dekhanA hai| jhUTha bole yA saca bole vaha usake adhIna hai| vaha apane adhIna nahIM hai| vaha usakI marjI meM jaisA Ae, vaisA kregaa| use jhUTha bolanA ho yA hameM khatama karanA ho vaha usake tAbe meM hai| rAta ko hamArI maTakI meM jahara DAla de to hama to khatama hI ho jAeMge na! isalie apane hAtha meM jo nahIM hai, vaha hameM nahIM dekhanA hai| samyak kahanA Ae to kAma kA hai ki, 'bhAI, isameM Apako kyA phAyadA huA?' to vaha apane Apa kabala kregaa| samyaka nahIM kahate aura Apa pA~ca sera kA do to sAmanevAlA dasa sera kA lauTAegA! praznakartA : kahanA nahIM Ae to phira kyA karanA cAhie? cupa baiThanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : mauna rahanA aura dekhate rahanA ki 'kyA hotA hai?' sinemA meM baccoM ko paTakate haiM, taba kyA karate haiM hama? kahane kA adhikAra hai sabhI ko, para kleza bar3he nahIM usa taraha kahane kA adhikAra hai, bAqI jo kahane se kleza bar3he vaha to mUrkha kA kAma hai| praznakartA : abolA lekara bAta ko TAlane se usakA nikAla ho sakatA hai? dAdAzrI : nahIM ho sktaa| hameM to sAmanevAAlA mile to kaise ho? kaise nahIM? aise kahanA caahie| sAmanevAlA jarA zora macAe to hameM z2arA dhIre se 'samabhAva se nikAla' karanA caahie| usakA nikAla to karanA hI par3egA na, jaba kabhI bhI? abolA karane se kyA nikAla ho gayA? vaha nikAla nahIM hotA, isalie to abolA khar3A hotA hai| abolA matalaba 52 vANI, vyavahAra meM... bojhA, jisakA nikAla nahIM huA usakA bojhaa| hameM to turanta use khar3A rakhakara kahanA cAhie, 'Thaharo na, merI koI bhUla huI ho to mujhe kaho, merI bahuta bhUleM hotI haiN| Apa to bahuta hoziyAra, par3he-likhe isalie ApakI nahIM hotI, para maiM kama par3hA-likhA hU~ isalie merI bahuta bhUleM hotI haiM, aisA kaheM to vaha khuza ho jaaegaa|' praznakartA : aisA kahane para bhI vaha narama nahIM par3eM taba kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : narama nahIM par3e to hameM kyA karanA hai? hameM to kahakara chor3a denA hai| phira kyA upAya hai? kabhI na kabhI to narama pdd'eNge| DA~Takara narama karo to usase koI narama hotA nahIM hai| Aja narama dikhegA, para vaha mana meM noMdha rakhegA aura hama jaba narama ho jAe~ge, usa dina vaha sArA vApisa nikaalegaa| yAnI jagat bairavAlA hai| kudarata kA niyama aisA hai ki haraeka jIva aMdara baira rakhatA hI hai| bhItara paramANuoM kA saMgraha karake rakhate haiN| isalie hameM pUrA kesa hI qhArija kara denA caahie| praznakartA : hama sAmanevAle ko abolA tor3ane ke lie kaheM ki 'merI bhUla ho gaI, aba mAfI mA~gatA hU~', to bhI vaha adhika akar3ane lage to kyA karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : to hameM kahanA baMda kara denA caahie| usakA svabhAva Ter3hA hai aisA jAnakara baMda kara denA cAhie hmeN| use aisA kucha ulTA jJAna ho gayA hogA ki 'bahuta name nAdAna' vahA~ phira dUra hI rahanA caahie| phira jo hisAba ho, vaha shii| parantu jitane loga sarala hoM na, vahA~ to hala le AnA caahie| ghara meM kauna-kauna sarala hai aura kauna-kauna Ter3hA hai, hama vaha nahIM samajhate? praznakartA : sAmanevAlA sarala nahIM ho to usake sAtha hameM vyavahAra tor3a denA cAhie? dAdAzrI : nahIM tor3anA caahie| vyavahAra tor3ane se TUTatA nahIM hai| vyavahAra tor3ane se TUTe, aisA hai bhI nhiiN| isalie hameM vahA~ mauna rahanA cAhie
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM.. ki kisI dina cir3hegA taba apanA hisAba pUrA ho jAegA, hama mauna rakheM to kisI dina vaha cir3hegA aura khuda hI bolegA ki, 'Apa bolate nahIM ho, kitane dinoM se cupacApa phirate ho!' aisA cir3he, matalaba apanA hisAba pUrA ho gyaa| taba kyA ho phira? yaha to taraha-taraha ke lohe hote haiM, hameM saba pahacAna meM Ate haiN| kitanoM ko bahuta garama kareM to mur3a jAte haiN| kitanoM ko bhaTThI meM DAlane par3ate haiM, phira jaldI se do hathaur3e mAreM ki sIdhA ho jAtA hai| ye to taraha-taraha ke lohe haiM! isameM AtmA vaha AtmA hai, paramAtmA hai aura lohA vaha lohA hai, ye sArI dUsarI dhAtue~ haiN| Apa eka dina to kahakara dekho ki "devI', Aja to Apane bahuta acchA bhojana khilAyA', itanA bolakara to dekho| praznakartA : khuza, khuza! dAdAzrI : khuza-khuza ho jaaegii| para yaha to bolate bhI nhiiN| vANI meM bhI mAno ki muphta kI kharIdakara lAnI par3atI ho na, aise| vANI kharIdakara lAnI par3atI hai? praznakartA : nahIM, para patipana vahA~ calA jAegA na! dAdAzrI : patipana calA jAegA, patipana!! ohoho! bar3A pati bana baiThA!! aura ansarTiphAiDa pati vApisa, yadi sarTiphikeTa lekara AyA hotA to ThIka hai!! patnI aura usakA pati, donoM paDosI ke sAtha laDate haiM. taba kaise abheda hokara lar3ate haiM? donoM eka sAtha aise hAtha karake ki, 'Apa aise aura Apa vaise|' donoM jane aise hAtha karate haiN| taba hameM lagatA hai ki ohoho! ina donoM meM itanI adhika ekatA!! yaha korporezana abheda hai, aisA hameM lagatA hai| aura phira ghara meM ghusakara donoM lar3ate haiM taba kyA kaheMge? ghara para ve loga lar3ate haiM yA nahIM lar3ate? kabhI to lar3ate haiM na? vaha korporezana aMdara-aMdara jaba jhagar3atA hai na, 'tU aisI aura Apa aise, tU aisI aura Apa vaise|' ....phira ghara meM jamatA hai na, taba kahatA hai, 'tU calI jA, vANI, vyavahAra meM... yahA~ se ghara calI jA, mujhe cAhie hI nahIM' khegaa| aba yaha nAsamajhI nahIM hai? Apako kaisA lagatA hai? ve abheda the aura Ta gayA aura bheda utpanna huaa| isalie vAipha ke sAtha bhI 'merI-terI' ho jAtA hai| 'tU aisI hai aura tU aisI hai!' taba vaha kahegI, 'Apa kahA~ sIdhe ho?' isalie ghara meM bhI 'maiM aura tU' ho jAtA hai| faimili ke vyakti se aise hAtha TakarA jAe to hama usake sAtha lar3ate haiM? nhiiN| eka faimili kI taraha rahanA caahie| banAvaTa nahIM karanI caahie| yaha to, loga banAvaTa karate haiM, vaisA nhiiN| eka faimili... tere binA mujhe acchA nahIM lagatA aise kahanA cAhie, vaha DA~Te na hameM, usake bAda thor3I dera bAda phira kaha denA, 'tU cAhe jitanA DA~Te, to bhI tere binA mujhe acchA nahIM lgtaa|' aise kaha denA caahie| itanA gurumaMtra kaha denA caahie| aisA kabhI bolate hI nahIM, Apako bolane meM harja kyA hai? mana meM prema rakhate z2arUra haiM, para thor3A prakaTa karanA caahie| yAnI, hamArA saba DrAmA hI hotA hai| hIrAbA 73 varSa ke, phira bhI majhe kahate haiM, 'Apa jaldI aanaa| maiMne kahA. 'majhe bhI Apake binA acchA nahIM lagatA!' aisA DrAmA kareM to kitanA unheM AnaMda ho jaae| jaldI AnA, jaldI AnA kahatI haiN| to unheM bhAva hai isalie ve kahatI haiM na! taba hama bhI vaisA bolate haiN| bolanA hitakArI honA caahie| bolA huA bola yadi sAmanevAle ko hitakArI nahIM huA to hamArA bolA huA bola kAma kA hI kyA hai phira?! ___ eka ghaMTA naukara ko, beTe ko yA patnI ko DA~TA ho to phira vaha pati hokara yA sAsa hokara Apako pUrI z2indagI kucalate raheMge! nyAya to cAhie yA nahIM cAhie? yahI bhugatanA kahalAtA hai| Apa kisIko duHkha doge to Apake lie pUrI z2indagI kA du:kha aaegaa| eka hI ghaMTA duHkha doge to usakA phala pUrI z2indagI milegaa| phira cillAo ki 'patnI mujhe aisA kyoM karatI hai?' patnI ko aisA hotA hai ki, 'isa pati ke sAtha mujhase aisA kyoM ho jAtA hai?' use bhI du:kha hotA hai, para kyA ho? phira maiMne unheM pUchA ki, 'patnI Apako DhUMDhakara lAI thI yA Apa patnI ko DhUMDhakara
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________________ 56 vANI, vyavahAra meM... le Ae the!' taba vaha kahatA hai, 'maiM DhUMDha lAyA thaa| taba usakA kyA doSa becArI kA? le Ane ke bAda ulTI nikale, usameM vaha kyA kare, kahA~ jAe phira? jagat meM kisIko kucha bhI, eka akSara bhI kahane jaisA nahIM hai| kahanA, vaha roga hai eka prakAra kA! kahane kA ho na to vaha roga sabase bar3A hai! saba apanA-apanA hisAba lekara Ae haiN| yaha dakhala karane kI z2arUrata kyA hai? eka akSara bhI bolanA baMda kara denaa| isalie to hamane yaha 'vyavasthita' kA jJAna diyA hai| isalie jagat meM eka hI cIz2a karane jaisI hai| kucha bhI bolanA nahIM aap| ArAma se jo ho vaha khA lenA aura ye cale saba apane-apane kAma para, kAma karate rhnaa| bolanA-karanA nhiiN| tU bolatI nahIM hai na baccoM ke sAtha, pati ke sAtha? bolanA kama kara denA acchaa| kisIko kucha kahane jaisA nahIM hai, kahane se adhika bigar3atA hai| use kaheM ki, 'gAr3I para jaldI pahu~ca', to vaha dera se jAegA aura kucha nahIM kaheM to TAima para jaaegaa| hama nahIM hoM, to saba cale vaisA hai| yaha to khuda kA galata ahaMkAra hai| jisa dina se baccoM ke sAtha kaca-kaca karanA Apa baMda kara doge, usa dina se bacce sudhreNge| Apake bola acche nahIM nikalate, isalie sAmanevAlA akulAtA hai| Apake bola svIkAra nahIM karatA, ulTe ve bola vApisa Ate haiN| hama to baccoM ko khAnA-pInA saba banAkara deM aura apanA farz2a nibhAe~, dUsarA kucha kahane jaisA nahIM hai| kahane se phAyadA nahIM hai, aisA Apane sAra nikAlA hai? praznakartA : bacce unakI jimmedArI samajhakara nahIM rahate haiN| dAdAzrI : jimmedArI 'vyavasthita' kI hai| vaha to usakI jimmedArI samajhA huA hI hai| Apako use kahanA nahIM AtA hai| isalie dakhala hotI hai| sAmanevAlA mAne taba apanA kahA huA kAma kA hai| yaha to mA~-bApa pAgaloM jaisA bolate haiM phira bacce bhI pAgalapana karate haiN| vANI, vyavahAra meM... praznakartA : bacce asabhyatA se bolate haiN| dAdAzrI : hA~, para vaha Apa kisa taraha se baMda karoge? yaha to Amane-sAmane baMda ho to sabakA acchA ho| eka bAra mana meM virodha bhAva paidA ho gayA phira usakI liMka zurU ho jAtI hai, phira mana meM usake lie graha baMdha jAtA hai ki yaha manuSya aisA hai| taba hameM mauna lekara sAmanevAle ko vizvAsa meM lenA caahie| bolate rahane se kisIkA sudharatA nahIM hai! sudharanA ho to 'jJAnI puruSa' kI vANI se sudharatA hai| baccoM ke lie to mA~-bApa kI jokhimadArI hai| hama nahIM boleM to nahIM calegA? clegaa| isalie bhagavAna ne kahA hai ki jIte jI mare hue kI taraha rh| bigar3A huA sudhara sakatA hai| bigar3e hue ko sudhAranA vaha 'hamase' ho sakatA hai, Apako nahIM karanA hai| Apako hamArI AjJA ke anusAra calanA hai| vaha to jo sudharA huA hai, vahI dUsare ko sudhAra sakatA hai| khuda hI sudhare nahIM hoM to dUsare ko kisa taraha sudhAra sakeMge? praznakartA : sudhare hue kI paribhASA kyA hai? dAdAzrI : sAmanevAle vyakti ko Apa DA~ToM to bhI use usameM prema dikhe| Apa ulAhanA do to bhI use ApameM prema dikhe ki 'ohoho! mere phAdara ko mujha para kitanA adhika prema hai!' ulAhanA do. para prema se do to sudhreNge| ina kaoNlejoM meM ye prophesara yadi ulAhanA dene jAe~ to prophesaroM ko sabhI mAreMge! sAmanevAlA sudhare usake lie apane prayatna rahane caahie| para jo prayatna riekzanarI hoM vaise prayatnoM meM nahIM par3anA caahie| hama use DA~TeM aura use kharAba lage, vaha prayatna nahIM khlaataa| prayatna aMdara karane cAhie, sUkSma prakAra se! sthUla prakAra se yadi hamase nahIM hotA ho to sukSma prakAra se prayatna karane caahie| adhika ulAhanA nahIM denA ho to thor3e meM kaha denA cAhie ki, 'hameM yaha zobhA nahIM detaa|' basa itanA hI kahakara baMda rakhanA caahie| kahanA to par3egA para kahane kA tarIkA hotA hai|
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM... 57 khuda sudhare nahIM aura logoM ko sudhArane ge| usase loga ulTe bigdd'e| sudhArane jAe~ to bigar3eMge hii| khuda hI bigar3A huA ho to kyA ho? khuda ko sudhAranA sabase AsAna hai| hama nahIM sudhare hoM aura dUsare ko sudhArane jAe~, vaha mIniMgalesa hai| DA~Tane se manuSya spaSTa nahIM kahatA hai aura kapaTa karatA hai| ye sAre kapaTa DA~Tane se hI jagat meM khar3e hue haiN| DA~TanA, vaha sabase bar3A ahaMkAra hai, pAgala ahaMkAra hai| DA~TA huA kaba kAma kA kahalAtA hai? pUrvagraha binA DA~Tai vh| kisI jagaha para acchI vANI bolate hoMge na? yA nahIM bolate ho? kahA~ para bolate hoMge? jise baoNsa mAnA hai, usa baoNsa ke sAtha acchI vANI bolate haiM aura anDarahainDa ko jhir3akate rahate haiN| pUre dina 'tUne aisA kiyA, tUne vaisA kiyA' kahate rahate haiN| to usameM pUrI vANI saba bigar3a jAtI hai| ahaMkAra hai isake piiche| isa jagat meM kucha kahA jAe aisA nahIM hai| jo bolate haiM, vaha ahaMkAra hai| jagat pUrA niyaMtraNavAlA hai| 10. pAlo - poso 'paudhe' isa taraha, bagIce meM... eka baiMka kA mainejera kahatA hai, 'dAdAjI, maiM to kabhI bhI vAipha yA beTe yA beTI ko eka akSara bhI nahIM bolA huuN| cAhe jaisI bhUleM kareM, cAhe jo karate hoM, para maiM nahIM bolatA huuN|' vaha aisA samajhA ki dAdAjI, mujhe acchI-sI pagar3I pahanAe~ge! vaha kyA AzA rakha rahA thA, samajha meM AyA na?! aura mujhe usa para bahuta gussA AyA ki Apako kisane baiMka kA mainejara banAyA hai? Apako beTI-beTe sa~bhAlane bhI nahIM Ate aura patnI ko bhI sa~bhAlakara rakhanA nahIM AtA ! to vaha to ghabarA gayA becaaraa| para maiMne use kahA, 'Apa aMtima prakAra ke bekAra manuSya ho| isa duniyA meM kisI kAma ke Apa nahIM ho|' vaha vyakti to mana meM samajhA ki maiM aisA kahU~gA to ye 'dAdA' mujhe bar3A inAma de deNge| are pAgala, isakA inAma hotA hogA? beTA ulTA kara rahA ho, taba use hameM 'kyoM aisA kiyA? aba aisA mata krnaa|' aisA nATakIya bolanA vANI, vyavahAra meM... caahie| nahIM to beTA aisA hI samajhegA ki maiM jo kucha karatA hU~ vaha karekTa hI hai| kyoMki pitAjI ne eksepTa kiyA hai| kaI loga baccoM se kahate haiM, 'tU merA kahanA nahIM mAnatA hai|' maiMne kahA, 'ApakI vANI pasaMda nahIM hai use| pasaMda ho to asara ho hI jAtA hai|' aura vaha pApA kahatA hai, 'tU merA kahanA nahIM mAnatA hai|' are mue, pApA honA tujhe AyA nhiiN| isa kaliyuga meM dazA to dekho logoM kI! nahIM to satyuga meM kaise phAdara aura madara the! eka vyakti mujhe unnIsa sau bAvana meM kaha rahA thA ki 'yaha gavarnamenTa kharAba hai aura jAnI hI caahie|' aisA unnIsa sau bAvana se unnIsa sau bAsaTha taka bolatA rhaa| isalie phira maiMne use kahA ki, 'roja Apa mujhe yaha bAta karate ho, para vahA~ kucha badalAva hotA hai? yaha ApakA bolA huA vahA~ phalA hai kyA?' taba vaha kahatA hai, 'nhiiN| vaha nahIM phlaa|' taba maiMne kahA, 'to kisalie gAte rahate ho? Apase to reDiyo acchaa|' apanA bolA huA nahIM phalatA ho to hameM cupa ho jAnA caahie| hama mUrkha haiM, hameM bolanA nahIM AtA hai, isalie cupa ho jAnA caahie| apanA bolA huA phalatA nahIM aura ulTe apanA mana bigar3atA hai, apanA AtmA bigar3atA hai| aisA kauna karegA phira? praznakartA : beTA bApa kA nahIM mAne to kyA karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : 'apanI bhUla hai' aisA mAnakara chor3a denA cAhie! apanI bhUla ho, taba hI nahIM mAnegA na! bApa honA AtA ho, usakA beTA nahIM mAne, aisA hotA hogA?! para bApa honA AtA hI nahIM na! praznakartA : eka bAra phAdara ho gae phira kyA pille chor3eMge? dAdAzrI : chor3ate hoMge? pille to pUrI z2indagI DaoNga aura DaoNgina ko, donoM ko dekhate hI rahate haiM, ki ye bhauMka rahA hai aura ye (DaoNgina) kATatI rahatI hai| DaoNga bhauMke binA rahatA nahIM hai| para aMta meM doSa usa DaoNga kA nikalatA hai| bacce apanI mA~ kI taraphadArI karate haiN| isalie maiMne eka
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM... jane se kahA thA, 'bar3e hokara ye bacce tujhe maareNge| isalie patnI ke sAtha sIdhA rahanA!' vaha to bacce dekhate rahate haiM usa ghar3I, unakA paira nahIM pahu~ce na taba taka aura paira pahu~ce taba to kamare meM DAlakara maareNge| aisA huA bhI hai logoM ke sAtha ! lar3ake ne usa dina se niyANAM (apanA sArA puNya lagAkara kisI eka vastu kI kAmanA karanA) hI kiyA hotA hai ki maiM bar3A ho jAU~gA to bApa ko mArU~gA ! merA sarvasva jAe para yaha kArya honA cAhie, vaha niyANAM / yaha bhI samajhane jaisA hai na? ! praznakartA yAnI ki sArA doSa bApa kA hI hai? : dAdAzrI : bApa kA hii| doSa hI bApa kA hai| bApa meM bApa hone kI barakata nahIM ho taba patnI sAmanA karatI hai| bApa meM barakata nahIM ho taba hI aisA hotA hai na! mAra-pITakara gAr3I khIMcatA hai| kaba taka samAja ke Dara ke mAre rheNge| ye bacce darpaNa haiN| baccoM para se patA calatA hai ki apane meM kitanI bhUleM haiM ! praznakartA maunavrata le leM to kaisA? mauna dhAraNa kareM to, bolanA hI nhiiN| : dAdAzrI : vaha mauna apane hAtha kI bAta nahIM hai na / mauna ho jAe~ to acchI bAta hai| praznakartA: vyavahAra meM koI galata kara rahA ho to use TokanA par3atA hai to usase use duHkha hotA hai| to kisa taraha se usakA nikAla karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : Tokane meM harja nahIM hai, para hameM TokanA AnA cAhie na / kahanA AnA cAhie na, kyA? praznakartA: kisa taraha? dAdAzrI : beTe se kaheM, 'tujhameM akkala nahIM hai, gadhA hai|' aisA boleM 60 vANI, vyavahAra meM... to phira kyA hogA! use bhI ahaMkAra hotA hai yA nahIM? Apako hI yadi ApakA baoNsa kahe ki, 'ApameM akkala nahIM hai, gadhe ho|' aisA kahe to kyA hogA? nahIM kahanA cAhie aisaa| TokanA AnA caahie| praznakartA: kisa taraha TokanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : use baitthaao| phira kaho, hama hindustAna ke loga haiM, Arya prajA hai apanI, hama koI anAr3I nahIM hai, aura apane se aisA nahIM honA caahie| aisA-vaisA saba samajhAkara kaheM taba rAste para aaegaa| nahIM to Apa to mArapITakara lephTa enDa rAiTa, lephTa enDa rAiTa le lete ho, to calatA hogA? - praznakartA: yahA~ ke bacce bahasa bahuta karate haiM, ArgyumenTa bahuta karate haiN| yaha Apa kyA lekcara de raho ho, kahate haiM? dAdAzrI bahasa bahuta karate haiN| phira bhI prema se sikhAoge na to bahasa kama hotI jaaegii| yaha bahasa ApakA riekzana hai| Apa abhI taka unheM dabAte rahe haiM na / vaha usake dimAg2a meM se jAtA nahIM hai, miTatA hI nahIM / isalie phira vaha bahasa karatA hai| mere sAtha eka bhI baccA bahasa nahIM krtaa| kyoMki maiM sacce prema se yaha Apa sabake sAtha bAteM kara rahA huuN| hamArI AvAz2a sattAvAlI nahIM hotii| yAnI ki sattA nahIM honI caahie| beTe se Apa kaho na to sattAvAlI AvAz2a nahIM honI caahie| isalie Apa thor3A prayoga mere kahe anusAra karo na / praznakartA kyA kareM? : dAdAzrI : prema se bulAo n| praznakartA: vaha jAnatA hai ki merA usa para prema hai| dAdAzrI : vaisA prema kAma kA nahIM hai| kyoMki Apa bolate ho usa ghar3I phira kalekTara kI taraha bolate ho| 'Apa aisA karo, ApameM akkala
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM.... nahIM hai, aisaa-vaisaa|' aisA bhI kahate ho na ? hamezA prema se hI duniyA sudharatI hai| isake sivAya dUsarA koI upAya hI nahIM hai usake lie / yadi dhAka se sudharatA ho na to yaha gavarnamenTa DemokresI .... sarakAra lokataMtra haTA de aura jo koI gunAha kare, use jela meM DAlakara use phA~sI de de| 61 : praznakartA phira bhI yadi bacce Ter3he caleM to kyA karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : bacce Ter3he rAste jAe~, to bhI hameM unheM dekhate rahanA aura jAnate rahanA caahie| aura mana meM bhAva nizcita karanA cAhie, aura prabhu se prArthanA karanI cAhie ki isa para kRpA kro| 'rileTiva' samajhakara aupacArika rahanA cAhie! bacce ko to nau mahIne peTa meM rakhanA hotA hai| phira calAnA, ghumAnA, choTA ho taba taka / phira chor3a denA caahie| ye gAyeM bhaiMseM bhI chor3a detI haiM na? beTe ko pA~ca varSa taka TokanA par3atA hai, phira Toka bhI nahIM sakate aura bIsa varSa bAda to usakI patnI hI use sudhaaregii| hameM nahIM sudhAranA hotA hai| praznakartA: baccoM ko kahane jaisA lage to DA~Tate haiM, to use duHkha bhI hotA hai to kyA karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : phira hameM aMdara mAfI mA~ga lenI caahie| isa bacce ko kucha adhika kaha diyA ho aura duHkha ho gayA ho to Apako bacce se kahanA cAhie ki, 'mAfI mA~gatA huuN|' aisA kahane jaisA nahIM ho to atikramaNa kiyA isIlie aMdara se pratikramaNa karo / praznakartA: baccoM ke sAtha baccA ho jAe~ aura usa prakAra se vyavahAra kareM, to vaha kisa taraha? dAdAzrI : baccoM ke sAtha abhI bacce kI taraha vyavahAra rakhate ho? hama bar3e hoM to usakA bhaya lagA karatA hai| vaisA bhaya nahIM lage usa prakAra se vyavahAra karanA caahie| use samajhAkara usakA doSa nikAlanA cAhie, DarAkara nahIM nikAlanA caahie| nahIM to DarAkara kAma nahIM lgtaa| Apa 62 vANI, vyavahAra meM... bar3I umra ke, ve choTI umra ke Dara jAe~ge becAre! para usase koI doSa jAegA nahIM, doSa to bar3hatA rahegA aMdara para yadi samajhAkara nikAlo to jAegA, nahIM to jAegA nahIM / praznakartA: aisA hotA hai, yaha to merA khuda kA anubhava hai vahI kaha rahA hU~, merA jo prazna hai yahI bAta hai| yaha merA khuda kA hI prazna hai aura bAra-bAra mere sAtha aisA ho hI jAtA hai| dAdAzrI : hA~, isIlie maiM yaha udAharaNa de rahA hU~ ki beTA ApakA bAraha sAla kA ho, aba Apa usase sArI bAteM karo, to una sabhI bAtoM meM kitanI hI bAteM vaha samajha sakegA aura kitanI hI bAteM nahIM samajha skegaa| Apa kyA kahanA cAhate ho vaha usakI samajha meM nahIM AtA hai| ApakA vyU poinTa kyA hai vaha usakI samajha meM nahIM AtA, isalie Apako dhIre se kahanA cAhie ki, 'merA hetu aisA hai, merA vyU poinTa aisA hai, maiM aisA kahanA cAhatA hU~ / ' tujhe samajha meM AyA yA nahIM AyA mujhe kahanA / aura terI bAta mujhe samajha meM nahIM Ae to maiM samajhAne kA prayatna karU~gA, aisA kahanA / isalie apane logoM ne kahA hai na ki bhAI, solaha varSa ke bAda, kucha varSoM ke bAda phrenDa kI taraha svIkaranA aisA kahA hai, nahIM kahA? phrenDalI Tona meM ho to apanA Tona acchA nikalatA hai| nahIM to roz2a bApa hone jAe~ na to kucha acchA nahIM hotA hai| cAlIsa varSa kA ho gayA ho aura hama bApa hone phireM, to kyA hogA? ! praznakartA: beTA kharAba zabda bolA, virodha karatA ho, use noMdha kara rakheM, to usa abhiprAya ke kAraNa laukika vartana meM gA~Tha par3a jaaegii| usase sAmAnya vyavahAra ulajha nahIM jAegA? dAdAzrI : noMdha hI isa duniyA meM bekAra hai| noMdha hI isa duniyA meM nukasAna karatI hai| koI bahuta mAna de to noMdha nahIM rakheM aura koI bahuta gAliyA~ de, 'Apa nAlAyaka ho, anaphiTa ho|' vaha sunakara noMdha nahIM rakhanI caahie| use noMdha rakhanI ho to rkhe| hama isa pIr3A ko kahA~ leM vApisa ? !
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________________ 64 vANI, vyavahAra meM... bahIkhAte lAkara phira noMdha rakhane lageM!!! baha samajhatI hai ki sasura dUsare ruma meM baiThe haiN| isalie bahU dUsaroM ke sAtha bAta karatI hai ki 'sasura meM z2arA akkala kama hai|' aba hama usa ghar3I vahA~ para khar3e hoM aura vaha hamAre sunane meM Ae, to apane aMdara vaha roga ghsaa| to vahA~ hameM kyA hisAba nikAlanA cAhie ki hama dUsare ruma meM baiThe hote to kyA hotA? to koI roga khar3A nahIM hotaa| isalie yahA~ Ae usa bhUla kA roga hai! hama usa bhUla ko miTA deN| Apa aisA mAnoM na ki hama kahIM aura baiThe the aura yaha nahIM sunA, yAnI ki usa bhUla ko miTA deN| apanA beTA bar3A ho gayA ho aura sAmanA kare to samajhanA ki yaha apanA 'tharmAmITara' hai| yaha ApameM dharma kitanA pariNamita huA hai, usake lie 'tharmAmITara' kahA~ se lAe~? ghara meM 'tharmAmITara' mila jAe to phira bAhara se nahIM kharIdanA par3e! beTA dhaula mAre, to bhI kaSAya utpanna nahIM hoM, taba jAnanA ki aba mokSa meM jAnevAle haiM hm| do-tIna dhaula mAre to bhI kaSAya utpanna nahIM ho, yAnI samajhanA ki yaha beTA hI apanA tharmAmITara hai| vaisA tharmAmITara dUsarA lAe~ kahA~ se| dUsarA koI mAregA nhiiN| isalie yaha tharmAmITara hai apnaa| yaha to nATaka hai! nATaka meM patnI-baccoM ko hamezA ke lie khuda ke banA de to kyA calegA? nATaka meM bolate haiM vaise bolane meM harja nahIM hai ki, 'yaha merA bar3A beTA zatAyu ho|' para sabakucha satahI, suparaphluasa, naattkiiy| ina sabako saccA mAnA usake hI pratikramaNa karane par3ate haiN| yadi saccA nahIM mAnA hotA to pratikramaNa karane hI nahIM pdd'te| jahA~ satya mAnA gayA vahA~ rAga aura dveSa zurU ho jAte haiM, aura pratikramaNa se hI mokSa hai| ye 'dAdA' dikhAte haiM, usa 'AlocanA-pratikramaNa-pratyAkhyAna' se mokSa hai| eka bAra eka vyakti ke sAtha merA dimAg2a jarA garama ho gayA thA, rAste meM maiM use DA~Ta rahA thaa| to loga to mujhe TokeMge na ki yaha bAz2Ara vANI, vyavahAra meM... meM Apako jhagar3A karanA cAhie? isalie maiM to ThaMDA ho gayA ki kyA bhUla ho gaI? vaha vyakti Ter3hA bola rahA hai aura hama DA~Ta rahe haiM, usameM to kyA bar3I bhUla ho gaI? phira maiMne use kahA ki yaha TeDhA bola rahA thA isalie mujhe jarA DA~TanA pdd'aa| taba ve loga bole ki yaha Ter3hA bole to bhI Apako DA~TanA nahIM caahie| yaha saMDAsa badabU mAre to daravAz2e ko lAteM mArate raheM to vaha saMDAsa kaba sugaMdhIvAlA hogA? usameM kisakA nukasAna huA? usakA svabhAva hI badabU dene kA hai| usa dina mujhe jJAna nahIM huA thaa| usa bhAI ne mujhe aisA kahA, to maiMne to kAna pkdd'e| mujhe bahuta acchA udAharaNa diyA ki saMDAsa kaba sudharatA hai? 11. maz2Aka ke jokhima... praznakartA : vacanabala kisa taraha se utpanna hotA hai? dAdAzrI : eka bhI zabda maz2Aka ke lie upayoga nahIM kiyA ho, eka bhI zabda jhUThe svArtha yA chIna lene ke lie upayoga nahIM kiyA ho, zabda kA durupayoga nahIM kiyA ho, khuda kA mAna bar3he usake lie vANI nahIM bole hoM, taba vacanabala utpanna hotA hai| praznakartA : khuda ke mAna ke lie aura svArtha ke lie ThIka hai, para maz2Aka kareM, usameM kyA harja hai? dAdAzrI : maz2Aka karanA to bahuta galata hai| isake badale to mAna do vaha acchA ! majAka to bhagavAna kA huA kahalAtA hai! Apako aisA lagatA hai ki yaha gadhe jaisA manuSya hai, 'AphTara oNla' vaha kyA hai, vaha patA lagA lo!! AphTara oNla vaha to bhagavAna hI hai na! mujhe maz2Aka kI bahuta Adata thii| majAka yAnI kaisA ki bahuta nukasAnadAyaka nahIM, para sAmanevAle ko mana meM asara to hotA hai na! apanI buddhi adhika bar3hI huI hotI hai, usakA durupayoga kisameM hotA hai? kama buddhivAle kI majAka kare usameM ! yaha jokhima jaba se mujhe samajha meM AyA, taba se majAka karanA baMda ho gyaa| maz2Aka to kiyA jAtA hogA? majAka
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM... to bhayaMkara jokhima hai, gunAha hai! maz2Aka to kisIkA bhI nahIM karanA caahie| phira bhI aisA majAka karane meM harja nahIM hai ki jisase kisIko du:kha nahIM ho aura sabhI ko AnaMda ho| use nirdoSa majAka kahA hai| vaha to hama abhI bhI karate haiN| kyoMki mUla svabhAva jAtA nahIM hai na! para usameM nirdoSatA hI hotI hai! hama joka (maz2Aka) karate haiM, para nirdoSa joka karate haiN| hama to usakA roga nikAlate haiM aura use zaktivAlA banAne ke lie joka karate haiN| jarA maz2A Ae, AnaMda Ae aura phira vaha Age bar3hatA jaae| bAqI vaha joka kisIko duHkha nahIM detaa| aisA maz2Aka cAhie yA nahIM cAhie? sAmanevAlA bhI samajhatA hai ki ye vinoda kara rahe haiM, maz2Aka nahIM ur3A rahe haiN| aba hama kisIkA majAka kareM, to usake bhI hameM pratikramaNa karane par3ate haiN| hameM aise hI cala jAe vaisA nahIM hai| bAqI, maiMne saba taraha kI maz2Aka ur3AI huI haiN| hamezA saba prakAra kI majAka kauna karatA hai? bahuta TAiTa brena ho vaha karatA hai| maiM to ArAma se majAka ur3AtA thA sabakA, acche-acche logoM kA, bar3e-bar3e vakIloM kA, DaoNkTaroM kA maz2Aka karatA thaa| aba vaha sArA ahaMkAra to galata hI hai na! vaha apanI buddhi kA durupayoga kiyA na! majAka karanA vaha buddhi kI nizAnI hai| 66 vANI, vyavahAra meM... prakAra ke jokhima Ate haiM? dAdAzrI : aisA hai, ki kisIko dhaula mArI ho na aura jo jokhima Ae, usase to yaha majAka karane meM anaMta gunA jokhima hai| usakI buddhi jyAdA nahIM hai, isalie Apane apanI lAiTa se (adhika buddhi se) use kabje meM liyaa| isalie phira vahA~ para bhagavAna kaheMge, 'ise buddhi nahIM hai usakA yaha lAbha uThA rahA hai?' vahA~ para khuda bhagavAna ko hamane pratipakSI bnaayaa| use dhaula mArI hotI to vaha samajha jAtA, yAnI khuda mAlika bana jaataa| para yaha to buddhi pahu~catI hI nahIM, isalie hama usakI majAka kareM to vaha khuda mAlika nahIM bntaa| isalie bhagavAna jAnate haiM ki 'ohoho, isakI buddhi kama hai, ise tU pha~sA rahA hai?! A jaa|' usake badale meM bhagavAna pratipakSI bana baiThate haiM, vaha to phira Apako parezAnI meM DAla degaa| 12. madhurI vANI ke, kAraNoM kA aise kareM sevana praznakartA : pratikramaNa karane ke bAda hamArI vANI bahuta hI acchI ho jAegI, isI janma meM hI? dAdAzrI : usake bAda to aura hI prakAra kA hogaa| hamArI vANI sarvatotkRSTa kakSA kI nikalatI hai, usakA kAraNa hI pratikramaNa hai| vyavahArazuddhi ke binA syAdavAda vANI nahIM nikalatI hai| pahale vyavahArazuddhi honI caahie| praznakartA : vANI bolate samaya kisa prakAra kI jAgRti rakhanI cAhie? dAdAzrI : jAgRti aisI rakhanI cAhie ki yaha bola bolane meM kisakisakA pramANa kisa-kisa prakAra se khaMDita hotA hai, vaha dekhanA hai| praznakartA : sAmanevAle ke sAtha bAtacIta karate samaya kyA dhyAna meM rakhanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : eka to unake sAtha bAta karanI ho to Apako unake 'zuddhAtmA' kI anumati lenI hogI ki inheM anukUla Ae aisI vANI mujhe praznakartA : mujhe to abhI bhI majAka karane kA mana hotA rahatA dAdAzrI : maz2Aka ur3Ane meM bahuta jokhima hai| buddhi se majAka ur3Ane kI zakti hotI hI hai aura usakA jokhima bhI utanA hI hai phir| yAnI hamane pUrI z2indagI jokhima uThAyA hai| jokhima hI uThAte rahe haiN| praznakartA : majAka karane ke kyA-kyA jokhima hote haiM? kisa
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________________ 67 68 vANI, vyavahAra meM... bolane kI parama zakti diijie| phira Apako dAdA kI anumati lenI hogii| aisI anumati lekara bolo to sIdhI-sarala vANI niklegii| aise hI mu~haphaTa bolate raho to sIdhI vANI kisa taraha nikalegI? praznakartA : isa taraha bAra-bAra kahA~ unakI AjJA lene jAe~? dAdAzrI : bAra-bAra z2arUrata bhI nahIM par3atI na! jaba vaisI Ter3hI phAileM Ae~ tabhI z2arUrata pdd'egii| cikanI phAila ke sAtha kucha bolanA ho to, pahale unake zuddhAtmA dekha lene cAhie, phira mana meM vidhi bolanI cAhie ki (1) he dAdA bhagavAna, (phAila kA nAma) ke sAtha usake mana kA samAdhAna ho usa taraha se bolane kI zakti diijie| phira (2) dasarA apane mana meM bolanA par3egA ki he caMdUbhAI, (phAila kA nAma) ke mana kA samAdhAna ho vaisI vANI bolnaa| aura phira (3) tIsarA bolanA cAhie ki, he padmAvatI devI, (phAila kA nAma) ke mana kA samAdhAna ho, usake sarva vighna dUra kiijie| vANI, vyavahAra meM... para usa gA~va meM sabhI ko cUr3iyA~ becakara, phira jo bace ve rAta ko vaha vApisa lekara A jaataa| vaha bAra-bAra usa gadhI se kahatA thA 'dhat gadhI, cala jaldI' aise karate-karate calAkara le jAtA na to eka vyakti ne use samajhAyA ki, 'bhAI tU ye vahA~ para gA~va meM kSatrANiyoM ko cUr3iyA~ car3hAtA hai| to yahA~ tujhe yaha Adata par3a jAegI aura vahA~ kabhI gadhI bola degA to mAra-mArakara terA tela nikAla deMge ve log|' taba usane kahA, 'bAta to saca hai| eka bAra maiM aisA bola gayA thA, mujhe pachatAnA paDA thaa|' taba dUsare vyakti ne kahA, 'to tU yaha Adata hI badala de|''kis taraha badala?' taba usa vyakti ne kahA, 'gadhI se tujhe kahanA cAhie ki cala bahana, cala bahana, calo bhn|' aba vaisI Adata DAlI isalie vahA~ para 'Ao bahana, Ao bahana' aise-vaise usane badala diyA lekina 'Ao bahana, Ao bahana' kahane se gadhI ko usa para AnaMda ho jAnevAlA hai? para vaha bhI samajha jAtI hai ki yaha acche bhAva meM hai| gadhI bhI vaha saba samajhatI hai| ye jAnavara saba samajhate haiM, para bolate nahIM haiM becaare| arthAt aise parivartana hotA hai! kucha prayoga kareM to vANI bdle| hama samajha jAe~ ki isameM phAyadA hai aura yaha nukasAna ho jAegA, to badala jAtA hai phir| hama nizcita kareM ki 'kisIko du:kha nahIM ho vaisI vANI bolanI hai| kisI dharma ko ar3acana nahIM Ae, kisI dharma kA pramANa nahIM dubhe vaisI vANI bolanI cAhie', taba vaha vANI acchI niklegii| 'syAdavAda vANI bolanI hai' aisA bhAva kareM to syAdavAda vANI utpanna ho jaaegii| praznakartA : para isa bhava meM bAra-bAra raTane se ki, 'syAdavAda vANI hI cAhie' to vaha ho jAegI kyA? dAdAzrI : para vaha 'syAdavAda' samajhakara bole tb| vaha khuda samajhatA hI nahIM ho aura bolatA rahe yA gAtA phire to kucha hotA nhiiN| kisakI vANI acchI nikalegI? ki jo upayogapUrvaka bolatA ho| aba upayogavAlA kauna hotA hai? jJAnI hote haiN| unake alAvA upayogavAlA praznakartA : kaI bAra aisA nahIM hotA ki hameM sAmanevAle kA vyU poinTa hI galata dikha rahA ho, isalie phira apanI vANI karkazatAvAlI nikalatI hai? dAdAzrI : vaisA dikhatA hai, isIlie hI ulTA hotA hai na ! vaha pUrvagraha aura vahI saba bAdhA karatA hai na! 'kharAba hai, kharAba hai' aisA pUrvagraha huA hai, usake bAda vANI nikale, to vaisI kharAba hI nikalegI na! jise mokSa meM jAnA hai, use 'aisA karanA cAhie aura vaisA nahIM karanA cAhie' aisA nahIM hotaa| jaise-taise karake kAma pUrA karake calanA caahie| use pakar3akara nahIM rakhatA! jaise-taise karake hala le AtA hai| eka vyakti ko vANI sudhAranI thii| vaise kSatriya thA aura cUr3iyoM kA vyApAra karatA thaa| aba vaha cUr3iyA~ yahA~ se dUsare gA~va le jaataa| to kisameM? TokarI meM le jaataa| TokarI sira para uThAkara nahIM le jAtA thaa| eka gadhI thI na, usa para vaha TokarI bA~dhakara dUsare gA~va le jaataa| vahA~
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________________ vANI, vyavahAra meM... 69 koI hotA nhiiN| yaha maiMne 'jJAna' diyA hai, jinheM 'jJAna' ho, unakI vANI upayogapUrvaka nikala sakatI hai| vaha puruSArtha kare to upayogapUrvaka ho sakatA hai, kyoMki 'puruSa' hone ke bAda kA puruSArtha hai| 'puruSa' hone se pahale puruSArtha hai nhiiN| praznakartA : isa bhava kI samajha kisa prakAra se vANI sudhArane meM helpa karatI hai| vaha udAharaNa dekara jarA samajhAie / dAdAzrI : abhI tujhe eka gAlI de to bhItara asara ho jAtA hai| thor3A-bahuta mana hI mana meM bolatA bhI hai ki 'tuma nAlAyaka ho|' para usameM tU nahIM hai, judA ho gayA isalie tU isameM nahIM hai| AtmA judA ho gayA hai, isalie vaha ekAkAra nahIM hotaa| yAnI koI manuSya bImAra ho aura bole, vaisA kara detA hai| praznakartA : aba jisakA ahaMkAra nahIM gayA, AtmA judA nahIM huA, use usakI samajha helpa karatI hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, para vaha jaisA hai vaisA bola de aura bAda meM pachatAvA kare taba / vANI sudhAranI ho to logoM ko pasaMda nahIM ho vaisI vANI baMda kara do| aura phira kisIkI bhUla nahIM nikAle, TakarAva nahIM kare, to bhI vANI sudhara jAtI hai| praznakartA : aba vANI meM sudhAra lAnA ho to kisa taraha karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : vANI apane Apase sudhArI nahIM jA sakatI, vaha TeparikaoNrDa ho cukI hai| praznakartA : hA~, isalie hI na! arthAt vyasthita ho cukA hai| dAdAzrI : vyavasthita ho cukA hai, vaha aba yahA~ para 'jJAnI puruSa' kI kRpA utare to parivartana ho jAtA hai| kRpA utaranI muzkila hai| vANI, vyavahAra meM... jJAnI kI AjJA se saba sudhara sakatA hai| kyoMki bhava meM dAkhila hone ke lie vaha bAr3a ke samAna hai| bhava ke aMdara dAqhila hone nahIM degii| praznakartA bhava ke aMdara matalaba kyA? 70 dAdAzrI : bhava meM ghusane nahIM de| bhava meM matalaba saMsAra meM hameM ghusane nahIM degii| binA mAlikI kI vANI jagat meM ho nahIM sktii| aisI vANI sAre (AvaraNa) tor3a detI hai, para use jJAnI ko khuza karanA AnA cAhie, rAjI karanA AnA caahie| ve sabakucha (pApa) bhasmIbhUta kara dete haiN| yadi eka ghaMTe meM itanA sArA, bhasmIbhUta ho jAtA hai, lAkhoM janma jitanA, to phira aura kyA nahIM kara sakatA? karttAbhAva nahIM hai| yaha binA mAlikI kI vANI ho hI nahIM sakatI aura binA mAlikI kI vANI meM kisIko hAtha nahIM DAlanA cAhie ki 'aisA nahIM ho sakatA', aise / vAstava meM itanA yaha apavAda nahIM hai, para yaha vastusthiti hai| phira hisAba nikAlanA ho to vaha bhI vyavasthita, vaha bhI vyavasthita, vaha bhI vyavasthita, vaha bhI vyavasthita, nikAlakara phira niklegaa| para taba usakA lAbha nahIM milegA, jitanA cAhate haiM utanA / praznakartA: agale bhava meM yaha saba smRti meM laaiegaa| dAdAzrI : hA~, Apa nizcita karo ki mujhe dAdA bhagavAna jaisI hI vANI caahie| abhI merI aisI vANI pasaMda nahIM hai| isalie usa anusAra hogaa| Apake nizcita karane para AdhArita hai| TenDara bharate samaya nizcita karo, jaise vANI, AcAra cAhie hoM vaise, aura TenDara meM se saba ApakA DisIjana aaegaa| praznakartA: kitanoM kI vANI itanI mIThI hotI hai| loga unakI vANI para mugdha ho jAte haiN| to vaha kyA kahalAtA hai? dAdAzrI : ve cokhe vyakti hote haiM aura bahuta puNya kiyA hotA hai taba aisA hotA hai, aura khuda ke lie paise nahIM lete| auroM ke lie
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________________ 72 vANI, vyavahAra meM... jIvana vyatIta karate haiN| ve cokhe vyakti kahalAte haiN| isalie vaha acchA manuSya to kaisA honA cAhie ki usakI vANI manohara ho, apane mana kA haraNa kare vaisI vANI ho, usakA vartana manohara ho aura vinaya bhI manohara ho| yaha to bolatA aisA hai ki usa ghar3I kAna hameM baMda kara dene par3ate haiM ! vANI bole to ulTA vaha cAya de rahA ho to bhI nahIM de| 'Apako nahIM dUMgA', khegaa| vANI meM madhuratA AI ki gAr3I clii| vaha madhura hote-hote aMtima avatAra meM itanI madhura ho jAegI ki usake sAtha kisI 'phrUTa' (phala) kI tulanA nahIM kI jA sakatI, utanI mIThAsavAlI hogI! aura kitane to boleM taba aisA lagatA hai ki bhaiMsa raMbhA rahI ho| yaha bhI vANI hai aura tIrthakara sAhiboM kI bhI vANI hai!!! jisakI vANI se kisIko kiMcit mAtra bhI duHkha nahIM hotA, jisake vartana se kisIko kiMcit mAtra bhI du:kha nahIM hotA, jisake mana meM kharAba bhAva nahIM hote, vaha zIlavAna hai| zIlavAna ke binA vacanabala utpanna nahIM vANI, vyavahAra meM... yaha to vijJAna hai| vijJAna meM koI parivartana nahIM hotA aura hai phira saiddhaaNtik| jo hara prakAra se thor3A bhI virodhAbhAsa kisI bhI jagaha para kucha bhI nahIM hotA aura vyavahAra meM phiTa ho jAtA hai, nizcaya meM phiTa ho jAtA hai| sabameM phiTa ho jAtA hai, sirpha logoM ko phiTa nahIM hotaa| kyoMki loga lokabhASA meM hai| lokabhASA meM aura jJAnI kI bhASA meM bahuta pharka hotA hai| jJAnI kI bhASA kitanI acchI hai, kucha ar3acana hI nahIM na! jJAnI vistArapUrvaka sabhI spaSTIkaraNa deM, taba hala AtA hai| apanA yaha 'akrama vijJAna' jagata meM patA cale. to logoM kA bahata kAma nikAla degaa| kyoMki aisA vijJAna kabhI nikalA nahIM hai| yaha vyavahAra meM, vyavahAra kI gaharAI meM kisIne kisI prakAra kA jJAna rakhA hI nahIM hai| vyavahAra meM koI paDA hI nhiiN| nizcaya kI hI saba bAteM kI haiN| vyavahAra meM nizcaya nahIM AyA hai| nizcaya nizcaya meM rahA hai aura vyavahAra vyavahAra meM rahA huA hai| para yaha to vyavahAra meM nizcaya lAkara rakhA hai, akrama vijJAna ne| aura pUrA nayA hI zAstra nirmita kiyA hai aura vaha sAinTiphika hai vApisa / isameM kisI jagaha para virodhAbhAsa nahIM ho sktaa| para aba yaha 'akrama vijJAna' prakAza meM kaise Ae? prakAza meM Ae to jagat kA kalyANa ho jAegA! praznakartA : usakA saMyoga bhI AegA na? dAdAzrI : hA~, AegA na! jaya saccidAnaMda hotaa| jaba khuda kI vANI khuda sunA karegA taba mokSa hogaa| hA~, vANI baMda hone se dina nahIM bdleNge| vANI baMda hone se mokSa nahIM hogaa| kyoMki aise baMda karane gae, isalie phira dUsarI zakti vApisa khar3I ho gii| sabhI zaktiyoM ko aise hI calane denaa| prAkRta zaktiyA~ haiM ye sArI / prAkRta zaktiyoM meM hAtha DAlane jaisA nahIM hai| isalie kahate haiM na hamArI vANI ko ki yaha TeparikaoNrDara bajatA rahatA hai, jise hama dekhA karate haiN| basa, yahI mokSa ! isa TeparikaoNrDa ko dekhe, vaha saba mokSa!! isalie hameM hara eka kArya galana hote samaya zuddhikaraNa karake nikAlane haiM aura usakA nikAla krnaa| hA~, samatAbhAva se nikAla karanA hai| samajhe to bAta bahuta muzkila nahIM hai aura nahIM samajhe to usakA aMta nahIM Ae aisA hai|
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________________ UparI kalpa goThavaNI dha niyANAM dhaula silaka tAyafA upalaka kar3hApA ajaMpA rAjIpA silaka potApaNuM lAgaNI upAdhi cyavana vaikriyika mUla gujarAtI zabdoM ke samAnArthI zabda : baoNsa, variSTha mAlika : kAlacakra : seTiMga, prabaMdha, vyavasthA : atyaMta rAga athavA dveSa sahita lambe samaya taka yAda rakhanA, noTa karanA : apanA sArA puNya lagAkara kisI eka vastu kI kAmanA karanA : hathelI se mAranA : rAhakharca, pU~jI : phaz2ItA : satahI, Upara Upara se, suparaphluasa : kur3hana, kleza : becainI, azAMti, ghabarAhaTa gurajanoM kI kRpA aura prasannatA : jamApUMjI : maiM hU~ aura merA hai, aisA AropaNa, merApana : bhAvukatAvAlA prema, lagAva : bAhara se AnevAlA duHkha : AtmA kI daivIya zarIra chor3ane kI kriyA : devatAoM kA atizaya halke paramANuoM se banA huA zarIra jo koI bhI rUpa dhAraNa kara sakatA hai namaskAra vidhi pratyakSa dAdA bhagavAna kI sAkSI meM, vartamAna meM mahAvideha kSetra meM vicarate tIrthaMkara bhagavAna zrI sImaMdhara svAmI ko atyaMta bhaktipUrvaka namaskAra karatA huuN| (40) pratyakSa dAdA bhagavAna kI sAkSI meM, vartamAna meM mahAvideha kSetra aura anya kSetroM meM vicarate OM parameSTI bhagavaMtoM ko atyaMta bhaktipUrvaka namaskAra karatA hU~ / (5) pratyakSa dAdA bhagavAna kI sAkSI meM, vartamAna meM mahAvideha kSetra aura anya kSetroM meM vicarate paMca parameSTI bhagavaMtoM ko atyaMta bhaktipUrvaka namaskAra karatA huuN| (4) : pratyakSa dAdA bhagavAna kI sAkSI meM, vartamAna meM mahAvideha kSetra aura anya kSetroM meM viharamAna tIrthaMkara sAhiboM ko atyaMta bhaktipUrvaka namaskAra karatA huuN| (5) : vItarAga zAsana devI-devatAoM ko atyaMta bhaktipUrvaka namaskAra karatA huuN| (5) niSpakSapAtI zAsana devI-devatAoM ko atyaMta bhaktipUrvaka namaskAra karatA huuN| (5) caubIsa tIrthaMkara bhagavaMtoM ko atyaMta bhaktipUrvaka namaskAra karatA huuN| (4) zrI kRSNa bhagavAna ko atyaMta bhaktipUrvaka namaskAra karatA hU~ / (5) // // // // bharata kSetra meM hAla vicarate sarvajJa zrI dAdA bhagavAna ko nizcaya se atyaMta bhaktipUrvaka namaskAra karatA hU~ / dAdA bhagavAna ke sarva samakitadhArI mahAtmAoM ko atyaMta bhaktipUrvaka namaskAra karatA huuN| (5) * sAre brahmAMDa ke samasta jIvoM ke riala svarUpa ko atyaMta // //
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________________ bhaktipUrvaka namaskAra karatA huuN| * rIyala svarUpa hI bhagavat svarUpa hai, isalie sAre vizva ko bhagavat svarUpa se darzana karatA huuN| rIyala svarUpa hI zuddhAtma svarUpa hai, isalie sAre vizva ko zuddhAtma svarUpa se darzana karatA huuN| * rIyala svarUpa hI tattva svarUpa hai, isalie sAre vizva ko tattvajJAna rUpa se darzana karatA huuN| nau kalameM 1. he dAdA bhagavAna ! mujhe kisI bhI dehadhArI jIvAtmA kA kiMcitmAtra bhI aham na dubhe (du:khe), na dubhAyA (duHkhAyA) jAye yA dubhAne (du:khAne) ke prati anumodanA na kI jAye, aisI parama zakti do| mujhe kisI dehadhArI jIvAtmA kA kiMcitmAtra bhI aham na dubhe, aisI syAdvAda vANI, syAdvAda vartana aura syAdvAda manana karane kI parama zakti do| 2. he dAdA bhagavAna ! mujhe kisI bhI dharma kA kiMcitmAtra bhI pramANa na dubhe, na dubhAyA jAye yA dubhAne ke prati anumodanA na kI jAye, aisI parama zakti do| mujhe kisI bhI dharma kA kiMcitmAtra bhI pramANa na dubhAyA jAye aisI syAdvAda vANI, syAvAda vartana aura syAdvAda manana karane kI parama zakti do| 3. he dAdA bhagavAna ! mujhe kisI bhI dehadhArI upadezaka sAdhu, sAdhvI yA AcArya kA avarNavAda, aparAdha, avinaya na karane kI parama zakti do| 4. he dAdA bhagavAna ! mujhe kisI bhI dehadhArI jIvAtmA ke prati kiMcitmAtra bhI abhAva, tiraskAra kabhI bhI na kiyA jAye, na karavAyA jAye yA kartA ke prati na anumodita kiyA jAye, aisI parama zakti do| 5. he dAdA bhagavAna ! mujhe kisI bhI dehadhArI jIvAtmA ke sAtha kabhI bhI kaThora bhASA, taMtIlI bhASA na bolI jAye, na bulavAI jAye yA bolane ke prati anumodanA na kI jAye, aisI parama zakti do| koI kaThora bhASA, taMtIlI bhASA boleM to mujhe mRdu-Rju bhASA bolane kI zakti do| 6. he dAdA bhagavAna ! mujhe kisI bhI dehadhArI jIvAtmA ke prati strI, puruSa yA napuMsaka, koI bhI liMgadhArI ho, to usake saMbaMdha meM kiciMtmAtra bhI viSaya-vikAra saMbaMdhI doSa, icchAe~, ceSTAe~ yA vicAra saMbaMdhI doSa na kiye jAyeM, na karavAye jAyeM yA kartA ke prati anumodanA na kI jAye, aisI parama zakti do| mujhe niraMtara nirvikAra rahane kI parama zakti do| 7. he dAdA bhagavAna ! mujhe kisI bhI rasa meM lubdhatA na ho aisI zakti do| samarasI AhAra lene kI parama zakti do| 8. he dAdA bhagavAna ! mujhe kisI bhI dehadhArI jIvAtmA kA pratyakSa athavA parokSa, jIvita athavA mRta, kisI kA kiMcitmAtra bhI avarNavAda, aparAdha, avinaya na kiyA jAye, na karavAyA jAye yA kartA ke prati anumodanA na kI jAyeM, aisI parama zakti do| 9. he dAdA bhagavAna ! mujhe jagata kalyANa karane meM nimitta banane kI parama zakti do, zakti do, zakti do| (itanA Apa dAdA bhagavAna se mA~gA kreN| yaha pratidina yaMtravata par3hane kI cIja nahIM hai, hRdaya meM rakhane kI cIz2a hai| yaha pratidina upayogapUrvaka bhAvanA karane kI cIz2a hai| itane pATha meM samasta zAstroM kA sAra A jAtA hai|) pratikramaNa vidhi pratyakSa dAdA bhagavAna kI sAkSI meM, dehadhArI (jisake prati doSa huA ho, usa vyakti kA nAma) ke mana-vacana-kAyA ke yoga, bhAvakarma-dravyakarmanokarma se bhinna aise he zuddhAtmA bhagavAna, ApakI sAkSI meM, Aja dina taka mujhase jo jo ** doSa hue haiM, usake lie kSamA mA~gatA huuN| hadayapUrvaka bahuta pazcAtApa karatA huuN| mujhe kSamA kreN| aura phira se aise doSa kabhI bhI nahIM karU~, aisA dRr3ha nizcaya karatA hai| usake lie mujhe parama zakti dIjie, zakti dIjie, zakti diijie| ** krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha, viSaya-vikAra, kaSAya Adi se kisI ko bhI duHkha pahu~cAyA ho, usa doSo ko mana meM yAda kreN|
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________________ dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezana ke dvArA prakAzita pustakeM hindI 1. jJAnI purUSa kI pahacAna 19. bhAvanA se sudhare janmojanma 2. sarva duHkhoM se mukti 20. pati-patnI kA divya 3. karma kA vijJAna vyavahAra 4. Atmabodha 21. mAtA-pitA aura baccoM kA 5. maiM kauna hU~? vyavahAra 6. vartamAna tIrthakara zrI sImaMdhara 22. samajha se prApta brahmacarya svAmI 23. dAna 7. bhUgate usI kI bhUla 24. mAnava dharma 8. eDajasTa evarIvheyara 25. sevA-paropakAra 9. TakarAva TAlie 26. mRtyu samaya, pahale aura pazcAta 10. huA so nyAya 27. nijadoSa darzana se... nirdoSa 11. ciMtA 28. prema 12. krodha 29. kleSa rahita jIvana 13. pratikramaNa 30. ahiMsA 14. dAdA bhagavAna kauna? 31. satya-asatya ke rahasya 15. paisoM kA vyavahAra 32. camatkAra 16. aMta:karaNa kA svarUpa 33. pApa-puNya 17. jagata kartA kauna? 34. vANI, vyavahAra meM... 18. trimaMtra 35. AptavANI-1 prAptisthAna dAdA bhagavAna parivAra aDAlaja : trimaMdira saMkula, sImaMdhara siTI, ahamadAbAda-kalola hAIve, posTa : aDAlaja, jilA : gAMdhInagara, gujarAta - 382421. phona : (079) 39830100, email : info@dadabhagwan.org ahamadAbAda : dAdA darzana, 5, mamatApArka sosAiTI, navagujarAta kaoNleja ke pIche, usmAnapurA, ahamadAbAda-380014.. phona : (079)27540408, 27543979 rAjakoTa : trimaMdira, ahamadAbAda-rAjakoTa hAIve, taraghaDiyA cokar3I, posTa : mAliyAsaNa, jilA : rAjakoTa. phona : 9924343478 bhuja : trimaMdira, hila gArDana ke pIche, sahayoganagara ke pAsa, eyaraporTa roDa, bhuja (kaccha), gujarAta. saMparka : 02832 236666 muMbaI : 9323528901 puNe : 9822037740 var3odarA : (0265)2414142 beMgalUra : 9341948509 kolakatA : 033-32933885 U.S.A. : Dada Bhagwan Vignan Institue : Dr. Bachu Amin, 100, SW Redbud Lane, Topeka, Kansas 66606. Tel: 785-271-0869, E-mail : bamin@cox.net Dr. Shirish Patel, 2659, Raven Circle, Corona, CA92882,Tel. : 951-734-4715, E-mail: shirishpatel@sbcglobal.net U.K. : Dada Centre,236, Kingsbury Road, (Above Kingsbury Printers), Kingsbury, London, NW9 OBH, Tel. :07956476253, E-mail: dadabhagwan_uk@yahoo.com Canada : Dinesh Patel, 4, Halesia Drive, Etobicock, Toronto, M9W6B7. Tel. : 416675 3543 E-mail: ashadinsha@yahoo.ca Canada : +1416-675-3543 Australia : +61421127947 Dubai : +971506754832 Singapore: +6581129229 Website : www.dadabhagwan.org, www.dadashri.org dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezana ke dvArA gujarAtI bhASA meM bhI 55 pustakeM prakAzita huI hai| vebasAiTa www.dadabhagwan.org para se bhI Apa ye sabhI pustakeM prApta kara sakate haiN| dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezana ke dvArA hara mahIne hindI, gujarAtI tathA aMgrejI bhASA meM "dAdAvANI" maigez2Ina prakAzita hotA hai|