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The Guru and the Disciple
The Guru and the Disciple
where the guide, too, is lost and therefore, he makes his follower wander around life after life. So find yourself a true, experienced guide who can show you the station. If not, he will make you wander around aimlessly.
If a blind person leads another blind person, where will they both end up? A true, experienced guide will immediately show you the way. Nothing will be pending: you will see instant results. You have not found a real experienced guide (bhomiyo). Therefore, find such a person.
Questioner: But would such a guide not be our superior?
Dadashri: The experienced guide is a superior - but to what extent? Only to the extent, that he takes us to the final destination.
Dadashri: You do not have accidents because you have brakes in your car. Should you remove the brakes?
Questioner: What is the need of hanging on to him once he shows me the way?
Dadashri: You will need a guru until the very end. The guru needs his own guru. When do we need schoolteachers? Don't you need them when you wish to become educated? And what if you do not want to study? If you do not want to benefit from anything then there is no point in making someone your guru, but if you wish to benefit, then you need to have a guru. It is not mandatory; it is voluntary. If you want to learn, you need a teacher. If you want to know about spirituality, then you need a guru, and if you do not wish to know anything, then it does not matter. There is no law that says you have to do it this way.
That is why you absolutely need someone above you, someone to show you. You need an experienced guide. You always need a guide. You will need a guide in every situation. No work can be done without a guide. If we want to go to Delhi and we look for a guide, then what is he if not a guru? If we give him money, he becomes our guide. A guru is someone who shows you the way as a guide.
Questioner: Therefore, one definitely needs someone who clarifies and shows the path.
Dadashri: Yes, the person who shows you the path is a guru, whoever he may be.
Support of a Guru is necessary at every level
Questioner: I walk along the path shown by the guru. Thereafter, do I need him? Alternatively, do I need to leave him?
Dadashri: No, he is necessary until the very end. Questioner: Why do we need him afterwards?
Here, even if you want to go to the station, you need a guru. Therefore, won't you need a guru for religion? You need a guru at every level.
There is no knowledge without a Guru Without a guru, no knowledge of any kind can be attained. Neither worldly knowledge nor spiritual knowledge can be attained without a guru. It is wrong to have expectations of knowledge (Gnan) without a guru.
Questioner: One man says that Gnan (Gnan Vidhi in Akram) is not something that is to be taken or given, but rather it is something that happens. Can you explain this?
Dadashri: This is a discovery of people who are deluded. They claim, "Gnan is not to be taken, neither is it to be given. Gnan happens spontaneously", but that state of delusion never leaves.
One grows up learning the knowledge he has been given. The teacher gives you knowledge and you take it. You in turn give
