Guru and Disciple

Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Mahavideh Foundation

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The Guru and the Disciple
The Guru and the Disciple
an ordinary person? Is the power not greater when the guru gives
it?
whose ego has gone. Only then will the ego go away. It is not a guru's job to destroy the ego; it is a task for the Gnani. Where would the guru get that kind of knowledge? His own ego has not left. When even his 'my-ness' (mamata) has not left him, how and when will his ego go? When he meets the Gnani Purush, in whom there is no trace of buddhi (intellect), only in front of such a Gnani will the ego leave.
Questioner: Can charging of karmas be destroyed in this time cycle of Kaliyug through the guru?
Dadashri: They cannot be destroyed by the guru; for that we need a Gnani Purush; a Bheda-Vignani (spiritual scientist who can separate Self and the non-self)! A Bheda-Vignani in whom there is no ego or intellect. Such a person can destroy your karma. And since the guru has an ego, nothing like this can be accomplished by him.
Questioner: Even the scriptures say, know that which is gurugamya - know the gnan that has manifested within the guru.
Dadashri: Yes, but what do we mean by gurugamya? It is only gurugamya when you can see the Soul, otherwise many are wandering around with guruganya. Gurugamya is only worth it if it allows you the experience of your real Self. Such a person is beyond all agamas (Jain scriptures), if you find such a Gnani Purush, then you will attaingurugamya.
The gurumantra will not allow you to slip!
Questioner: In every religion, the guru gives every disciple a gurumantra (a mantra given by the guru). What is that?
Dadashri: It is done so that people will not fall or slip (spiritually or religiously). If a disciple hangs on to the gurumantra, then he will not slip, but it has nothing to do with moksha.
Questioner: If a guru gives namsmaran (chanting of a particular name), is that not better than the namsmaran given by
Dadashri: If it is given, then it will yield good fruits. It is all dependant upon what type of guru one is; it is all dependent upon the guru.
It is beneficial to meditate on a Guru Questioner: Some gurus tell their disciples to meditate on them. Is that acceptable or not?
Dadashri: The meditation is done not for the guru's happiness, but for the disciple's concentration and peace. But what should the guru be like? He should be such that he would remain significantly in one's meditation.
Questioner: But is it proper to meditate on the satguru or on some other God?
Dadashri: You do not know God so how will you meditate on him? Instead, you should meditate on the guru. At least you are able to see his face. In this case, it is better to do meditation of the satguru because you cannot see' God. Meditation on God will happen only after I make you realize Him. Until then, meditate on whichever satguru you happen to pick. Once I show you God, you will not have to do that. As long as you have to do something, whether it is meditation or anything else, you will be subject to wandering in the life-death cycle. Meditation must be natural and spontaneous (sahaj). Sahaj' means that you do not have to do anything - it just happens naturally by itself. Then, know that you are liberated.
Shaktipat or Atma Gnan Questioner: What is the ritual involved in the phenomenon of shaktipat (transfer of relative energy) that some gurus practice? How does it benefit the disciple? Is it a siddhi (special power; special energy) such that it becomes a shortcut to Atma Gnan?