Guru and Disciple

Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Mahavideh Foundation

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The Guru and the Disciple
Dadashri: You want to attain Atma Gnan only, is that right? You only need Atma Gnan, correct? Then there is no need for shaktipat in that. Has your energy diminished? If so then take a vitamin!
Questioner: No, no, the shaktipat that gurus perform, what kind of kriya (action) is that?
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Dadashri: Say there is a five-foot wide stream and a person cannot jump over it. He keeps falling in it. So then you tell him, 'Hey! Go ahead and jump over it, I am right behind you.' Then he will be able to jump it. So a guru gives encouragement in this way. What else can he do? Have you lost your courage?
Questioner: Without a guru, one's courage is bound to
break!
Dadashri: So ask the guru to give you courage. And if the guru is not willing to do that, then come to me. If the guru remains pleased with you, and encourages you, then do not come to me. In this world, one only needs guru's rajipo (to please the guru). What does the guru want to take with him? He is only concerned about how to give you happiness. His aim is that you attain the Self, some how or other.
Questioner: I ask this question because many gurus do
shaktipat.
Dadashri: That is fine. I know that they do it, but up to what point is it necessary? Those gurus move away after they do shaktipat; they do not stay with you or give you support until the end. What good is that? The one that gives you support and accompanies you all the way, is your guru.
Questioner: Should we go to a guru that performs
miracles?
Dadashri: Anyone that has lalacha (insatiable greed) should go there and the guru will fulfill that greed. The one who
The Guru and the Disciple
wants to know the reality, the Self, does not need to go there. By performing miracles, such gurus pacify human beings. But intellectual people will become skeptical the moment they see such things.
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How far can the guru take you?
There are two paths: the Kramic path in which a person progresses one step at a time and the Akram path, which is the elevator path. In the latter, you do not have to do anything. In the Kramic path, which involves climbing steps (one has to make penitent efforts), however many gurus you follow, those gurus will help you climb. In this path, even the gurus make progress and so do the disciples. By doing this continuously, they reach the end.
It is only when the vision changes (one acquires the right vision - samyak drashti), that it turns into a relationship of a true guru and a true disciple. Until then everything is at a kindergarten level. One is allowed to have moha (a lot of fondness) for the guru, but there should be no aasakti (attraction) leading to raag (attachment). Such attraction is very wrong. It is never acceptable!
Questioner: If one has moha for the guru, would he stop us or not?
Dadashri: Your moha should only be to the point of, 'He is working for my salvation.' Someone may say, 'What if there is unwavering faith in the guru?" There is nothing wrong with that. That is good. The guru will take you at least as far as he has reached himself. Whomever you worship, he will take you as far as he has reached himself.
Questioner: He will take me only as far as he has reached?
Dadashri: Yes, our scriptures say that he will take you only as far as he has reached. The guru will help you climb as many steps as he has climbed himself. If he has climbed ten steps