Guru and Disciple

Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Mahavideh Foundation

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The Guru and the Disciple
If the atmosphere is pure, know that this man is pure and that it is here that faith will develop.
A seeker cannot be like this
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Faith should become so firmly established that it will not go away, no matter how hard someone tries to remove it. Faith that is forced upon you will go away, and faith that you have lost has to be forced back onto you. This is what happens everywhere in this world. People's faith will remain for six months in one place, two years in another place, and five years some other place, but it will go away again.
Therefore, do not keep faith on any guru in this world. You will be trapped whenever you do. Remain with a guru only if faith comes on its own. Faith should come to you on its own. For how long will faith that you have to 'keep' last?
One prominent businessperson tells me, 'I have tremendous faith in this guru.' I asked him, 'Do you know why you have faith in him? You have faith in him if he gives you special treatment and attention in front of large crowds.' Would a true seeker allow this kind of faith? I was a seeker. I had told my guru, "Speak in a way that my faith arises naturally. I do not like it when you sweet-talk me and say things like, 'Welcome Ambalalbhai, you are such a big contractor, you are like this, and you are like that.' It is meaningless when you try to establish faith in me by feeding my pride. Curse me if you have to, but say something so that faith arises naturally." Otherwise, people will start to have faith when the guru calls them and welcomes them with attention feeding their pride. They will think, 'It is nice here.'
Questioner: But educated and experienced thinkers will catch on right away, will they not?
Dadashri: Yes, the educated and experienced ones will be able to tell right away that it is all wrong. So how long will people put up with wrong things?
The Guru and the Disciple
The 'bapji' (guru) welcomes them nicely in order to establish their faith. 'Welcome Sheth (honorable businessman), welcome.' He gives a lot of importance to this sheth, but why not anyone else? It's because he feels, 'This sheth might be useful someday. If I need some reading glasses or something else, he will be useful.' Now the sheth trades in the black market, and bapji knows about this but he thinks, 'What is it to me? If he trades in the black market, he will have to pay for it, but I will need glasses someday, won't I? What is the sheth thinking? He is thinking, "There is no problem. See bapji gives me a lot of respect, does he not? I have not become bad.' Now when will he believe he has turned bad? If bapji tells him, 'Hey you! If you want to do this kind of business, then don't come here.' Then he will think, 'I will have to change the way I do business otherwise bapji will not let me in.' How long can such a faith last? It will last for six to twelve months and then it will go way.
There is no liberation without this type of faith
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So the kind of faith you need is one that will come despite my shouting abuses at you. Faith will also come because of pride (maan) fed by the guru, but it will go away after awhile. Do you understand? If, once your faith has been established, it does not go away, even if your guru were to yell abuses at you or beat you; that is what we call 'unshakable faith'. Is this possible? There is no moksha without having this kind of faith. I guarantee you this.
It can never be called faith if you go away from the guru because you found it inconvenient to be with him. In that case, are you looking for your own convenience or moksha? If you go away because you find it to be inconvenient, can you call that faith? What do you think? Faith means to surrender everything.
Faith will arise here in front of the Gnani because of the truth
I am not telling you to keep faith in me because I am not a