Guru and Disciple

Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Mahavideh Foundation

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The Guru and the Disciple
However, that is good, it is not wrong. It is not harmful to us. You should not worry about being anaguro. Will you feel insulted if you were called naguro?
Questioner: No.
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Dadashri: Why did you worry about being anaguro? Questioner: It is because of talks about a kanthi.
Dadashri: Yes but you should tell the one tying the kanthi on you, 'How long will I keep this kanthi? I will keep it until I gain something, or else I will break it off." You should make such a deal with him. If he asks you what benefits you want, tell him that all the conflicts at home should subside or else you will break the kanthi and throw it away. That is what you have to say right from the start but people don't do this, do they? People continue to wear the kanthi and the conflicts also continue. If conflicts continue after tying akanthi, then break it and tell the guru, 'Here, take your kanthi back. There is no power in your kanthi. You have not blessed it properly. Bless it in such a way that we do not have any conflicts at home.'
Questioner: They say that if we do not tie akanthi then even if we listen to their sermon, it will not bring results.
Dadashri: There you have it! 'If you don't tie a kanthi, you will not attain the gnan!" They intimidate people into submission.
Whom will you bow down to? God or the Guru
It is a good thing that they straighten people out by doing this. Nevertheless, at least they do not let people slip. But where is the talk of elevating anyone? The guru, himself, is not elevated! Is it easy to elevate someone in this Kaliyug? This 'hill' is very steep, but at least the gurus are not letting people slip. And because people are not able to find anything else, they find whatever they can and sit there. This is how one has to wander from one life to another.
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Questioner: It is said:
"Guru Govind dono khadey, kisko laagoo paaya? "Guru and God both stand here, whom do I bow to? Balihari Guru aapki, Govind deeyo bataayi."
The greatness is Yours my Guru, who showed me the Lord." ~Saint Kabir
Dadashri: Yes, but who will you call a gurudev? A real gurudev is the one who shows you God; this is what they are saying. Nowadays the gurus recite these lines to establish their status as a guru. But should you not ask them, "Sahib, I will call you 'gurudev' when you show me God, just as it is written. Then I will establish you as my guru. You yourself are still searching for the Lord and so am I, so how can we both attain God?"
Otherwise, all the gurus today point to this very thing. Even
if they have not shown you God, they will make you sing about it. Doing it this way, at least the gurus get some prasad (offering of food)! All other 'shops' benefit from these words too, do they not?
Questioner: But here, on this scale, the importance of the guru is greater than God.
Dadashri: It is greater, but there have not been such gurus. Actually, the "probationers" (trainee gurus) have benefited from this. These raw gurus believe, 'Now I am a guru, I showed you God, so you should worship me.' But of what use are these probationers? God is one in whom the ego is gone. If there is any state that is worthy of greater worship, it is of the one whose ego is gone, the one whose 'I-ness' (potapanu) is gone. Where the 'I-ness is gone,' everything is gone.
These ones who recite, 'guru Brahma, guru Vishnu and guru devo Maheshvara' are not gurus. They exploit others in the names of Brahma and Vishnu. People worship them because of this mantra. This discussion is about a satguru. Satguru means