Guru and Disciple

Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Mahavideh Foundation

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The Guru and the Disciple
The Guru and the Disciple
Dadashri: Yes, if the guru is living and present, then you will be able to dopurusharth right away. The Antaryaami inner guru) will give you a great deal of guidance; that state is very high. It is very difficult for the inner guru; the Self to manifest. The external guru will help you more.
Otherwise make your Self your guru; it is called 'Shuddhatma'. You tell him, "O Shuddhatma Bhagwan, you guide me," and He will
Who does not need a guru? Questioner: If we become exactly Self-realized from You, then we do not need a guru do we?
Dadashri: Then you do not need a guru. Who does not need a guru? A Gnani Purush such as me, has no need for a guru. The One who can see' absolutely all his mistakes does not need a guru.
Dadashri: If you remain and abide by his agnas, then he is pleased. You would recognize that he is pleased. Day and night, the guru will surround you with love.
Questioner: We need to have a certain conduct in order to please the guru, however, if the guru witnesses certain flaws or weaknesses in our conduct, he is also likely to become disappointed in us, is he not?
Dadashri: To become really pleased (prasanna) means never to become disappointed. The disciple is bound to make mistakes, but a true guru-Gnani will never become displeased.
Guru's extraordinary gift Questioner: Since the spiritual (adhyatmic) guru is without inner inclinations or needs (nispruhi), then how can one give him gurudakshina (gift for a guru)?
Dadashri: By following hisagnas. If you follow hisagnas, this gift to him will reach him. If you follow the five Agnas that I give you, then your gift to me will reach me.
Questioner: If a guru that teaches us anything is nispruhi, then what kind of gift should I give him?
Dadashri:If the guru isnispruhi(without inclinations), then you can serve him, offer physical services, run errands for him; you can pay him back in this way. There are many other ways; there are other ways to do service for those who are nispruhi.
Antaryaami Guru - the Guru that is within
Questioner: Can we worship both the external guru and the Antaryaami (inner guru) at the same time?
Dadashri: Yes, if the inner guru keeps showing you the path, then you do not need the external one.
Questioner: One's effort (purusharth) can be more if a guru is in the physical form (embodied).
Questioner: To keep continuous awareness in the Gnan that you have given us, do we need the guru's satsang or his presence or proximity?
Dadashri: Yes, all that is necessary. You need to follow the five Agnas. Everything is necessary.
Questioner: Then the guru is necessary, is he not?
Dadashri: The guru is not necessary. Who is the guru when you become the sadhya (i.e. when you become that which you worship, the Self). A sadhak (the one who worships, seeks) has a guru. I have sixty thousand people as mahatmas. They do not need to have a guru.
Questioner:Do they need satsang?
Dadashri: Yes, they need satsang and thereafter they need to follow the five Agnas.