Guru and Disciple

Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Mahavideh Foundation

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The Guru and the Disciple
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The Guru and the Disciple
Dadashri: If you find a satguru, there is nothing better, but if you do not find a satguru then you should at least have a guru. A Bheda-Vignani is a spiritual scientist that has the experiential knowledge that keeps the Self and the non-Self separate, is a satguru.
Questioner: So do we need a guru first or a satguru?
Dadashri: If there is a guru, only then can one get on the path! However, if you find asatguru then you will attain salvation (liberation).Then it is immaterial whether you find a guru or not because the satguru will give everyone salvation. If you find a guru, and follow his instructions, it will not take you long because you will have fewer negative qualities. But should you be graced by the touch of the satguru's hand, you will attain salvation.
Questioner: Are there people who have really attained the sat, the eternal, the Self?
Dadashri: There cannot be any. In this era of the current time cycle, such people are very rare; they may be in some place, somewhere. Otherwise, they do not exist. Where would you find such a person? If there were to be such a person, would this world not have blossomed? Would there not be Light everywhere?
Questioner: Then how can one escape the cycles of birth and death without a sarguru?
Dadashri: Yes, it is because there is no satguru around that all this has come to a halt! There is no meaningful progress.
Questioner: What is Shrimad saying when he says to surrender and follow a satguru so that one will attain moksha in the ninth life?
will give you samaj - complete understanding. He would explain all the facts. The one who has nothing more left to know is called a Gnani! It is not as if he knows only about the Jain religion; he knows everything and that is why he is called a Gnani! And if you were to meet him, you would attain moksha after nine lives, in fact you can even attain moksha after two more lives!
But it is difficult to find a satguru! Nowadays, there are no real gurus around so how can you find a satguru here? And when a satguru like Shrimad Rajchandra was living and present, people did not recognize him. Only after recognizing the Satguru can you take shelter
from Him Questioner: How can one recognize such a satguru?
Dadashri: Such a person is easily recognizable just like a bright glowing light. He emits a 'fragrance,' a spiritual presence that is quite widespread around him.
Questioner: But how is one to recognize a satguru? How are we to know that he is a real satguru?
Dadashri: It is like this, if you were an expert, you would be able to make an assessment with your trained eyes. Some of the qualities of asatguru are that his speech, behavior and humility will conquer your mind; he will captivate your mind. You would be filled with wonder and admiration for him! Your mind will continue to remain captivated.
Questioner: Many times, people's commitment and minds become swayed when they look at the worldly interactions of a guru or the satguru, so what should one do there?
Dadashri: If observing the worldly interaction of your guru sways your commitment to him, then you must investigate in detail whether your doubts have a basis or whether they are unfounded. Measure the situation from every angle as far as you can, with
Dadashri: It is difficult to find a satguru. That satguru would be difficult to find here. It is not easy to find a satguru. The satguru is a Gnani. You can have a guru, who is not a Gnani, but he does not have the necessary understanding, whereas the Gnani