Book Title: Guru and Disciple
Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Mahavideh Foundation

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________________ The Guru and the Disciple 39 The Guru and the Disciple Dadashri: If you live with him for a fortnight or so, then you would be able to see his impatience and agitation. If he is easily agitated and unstable, you will not gain any benefits. He should be stable and patient. Moreover, he should not have a single atom of kashayas - inner weakness of anger, pride, deceit, and greed-within him. We can even make do if his kashayas are mild. However, if his kashayas are very strong, and we too have kashayas within us, what can we attain there? Therefore, you cannot make a guru who is full of kashayas. If you annoy him a little, and he shows you his 'fangs,' then you cannot have him as a guru. You can make someone your guru as long as he has no kashayas or if his kashayas have diminished significantly. Diminished kashaya means he can turn things around without expressing kashayas. It means he turns everything around before he experiences anger, indicating control over his kashayas. Such a guru will do. A Gnani Purush, on the other hand has no kashayas: He has no anger, pride, deceit or greed because He remains detached. He remains separate from the complex of body, mind and speech! Who is a Satguru? Questioner: Now whom can we call a 'satguru? Dadashri: It is very difficult to define and identify someone as asatguru. In the language of the scriptures, whom can you call a satguru? Sar is the Atma (the Soul, the Self), so whoever has attained the Soul, that guru is asatguru! Therefore, an 'Atmagnani (knower of the Soul, Selfrealized) can be called a satguru, for he has experienced the Self. Not all gurus have Atma Gnan. So, the one who continuously remains as the eternal element-the Self-is asatguru! The Gnani Purush is a satguru. Questioner: Shrimad Rajchandra has said that without a living and directly present satguru, one can never attain moksha. Dadashri: Yes, moksha cannot occur without such a One. And what should a satguru be like? He must be free of all kashavas. Even if we hit him and yell abuses at him, he would still not have any kashaya. Not only is he free of kashaya but his intellect (buddhi) should also be completely gone. He should not have any intellect. If you go to people with intellect, how will you attain moksha when they have not attained it themselves? So he should not be affected whether you slap him or vell abuses at him If you beat him or throw him in jail, he should remain unperturbed. He should be beyond all dualities. Do you understand what we mean by duality'?By duality we mean attributes such as profit or loss, pleasure or pain; mercy or mercilessness. In duality, if there is one attribute within the other attribute will always be there too. That is duality! So the guru who is free of duality, is a satguru. In the current time cycle, there are no sargurus. During certain times, in some places they can be, but otherwise satgurus do not exist. But people have wrongly assumed that their gurus as being sargurus. That is why everything is at a standstill; otherwise, if you had found a true satguru, would you have all these worries? There is a great difference between a Guru and a Satguru Questioner: Everyone nowadays regards his guru as a satguru. What is that? Dadashri: In all the religions in India, people consider their own respective guru as being a satguru. No one uses the term guru alone; they use the term satguru but its meaning is in the worldly language. In the worldly life, people refer to a guru with very high conduct as asatguru, but really, he cannot be considered a satguru. The quality of his prakruti (worldly attributes) may be very commendable, he may have inner balance in matters of food, worldly interaction and personal character, but he has not attained Self-realization. Without Self-realization he cannot be called a satguru.

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