Book Title: Guru and Disciple
Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Mahavideh Foundation

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________________ The Guru and the Disciple 37 The Guru and the Disciple Pure gurus are needed Questioner: Does that mean that I need a guru that has no inner inclinations towards attraction? Dadashri: There is a big difference between the Gnani Purush and the guru! The guru is always for the worldly life. Without a Gnani Purush, there is no liberation. The guru takes us further in the worldly life and he makes us just the way he is. Other than this, he cannot give you anything more. And liberation is what the Gnani Purush gives. Therefore, you need a guru for the worldly interaction, but for liberation (nischay), you need the Gnani Purush. You need them both. What does the guru do? He studies further and he continues to teach those who follow him. I am a Gnani Purush; it is not my business to learn and teach. If you want moksha (liberation), then I will give you all the solutions; I will simply change your vision. Whatever bliss I have attained, I make others attain that very bliss and then I move aside. The guru gives gnan and the Gnani gives Vignan, i.e. the guru gives knowledge and the Gnani gives the Absolute Science. Knowledge will make you bindpunya in the worldly life and will show you the path. The science will take you to moksha. A guru is a teacher of a kind. He has adopted certain principles himself and his speech is good, so he brings others into discipline. He cannot do anything else; however, people become happier in the worldly life because they enter into a discipline. And the Gnani Purush will take you to moksha because he has the license for moksha. There is nothing wrong in having a worldly guru. Weought to have a worldly guru whom we can follow. But the Gnani cannot be called a guru. The Gnani is the supreme Soul in a human form. He is not the owner of his body, mind, or speech. The guru too, has to go to the Gnani Purush because within him there are weaknesses of anger, pride, deceit, and greed; there is ego and 'my-ness (mamata)' in him. If you offer him a gift, he will make you put it inside quietly. There is ego and 'my-ness' wherever you look; it is bound to be there! But people do need gurus also! Dadashri: Yes, you need a guru who is free from aasakti (inner weakness inclined towards attractions that arise from within). Of what use is he, if he is tempted by money or anything else? He has the same disease as we do; both have a disease. The only guru that is useful, is the one who has no inner inclinations and temptations. There is nothing wrong even if the guru eats fritters or ladoos (sweets) every day, all you have to do is determine whether he has any aasakti. Some gurus may subsist on just milk alone, but all you have to worry about is whether he has any inner attraction These gurus nowadays have demonstrated all kinds of mischief, 'I don't eat this, I don't eat that.' Oh just let go of your nonsense! Just go and eat. Are you not eating because you don't get any food? They are simply being grandiose. It is a kind of a display board that says, 'I don't eat this, and I don't do that.' They keep such boards in order to entice people toward them. I have seen many such 'boards' in India. Nevertheless, you need a guru without inner inclination and attraction. Then you do not have to worry about whether he eats special things or not. He that has the slightest inner temptation is not going to be useful as a guru. The whole world is in a state of destruction because people found gurus with inner designs and attraction. One can be called a guru provided he does not have this disease of temptation. The slightest of temptation is intolerable here. A guru with some weaknesses is acceptable Questioner: The state of a guru is mysterious. To know him well one needs some prior experience about him. Otherwise, one cannot tell from the external pomp and ostentations.

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