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The Guru and the Disciple
The Guru and the Disciple
Questioner: Yes, that is true.
Dadashri: So you need someone who has the knowledge. It is not as if the person showing you the way is telling you to ask him. You are asking him out of your own necessity, are you not? For whose benefit are you asking?
Questioner: For my own benefit.
Dadashri: Or you can keep on walking without asking anyone and try to experience that! That experience will teach you that there is a need for a guru. I will not have to teach you.
So there is a path, but there is no one to show it to you, is there? Only if there were someone to show you that path can your work be accomplished.
Guru means Guide
Questioner: I have tried many spiritual paths and teachers for the answer to the term 'Guru' and everywhere I have searched; I have not received any satisfactory answers.
Dadashri: If you want to go to the station from here and get lost on the way, will you not have to ask someone for help? Whom would you ask?
Questioner: Someone who knows the way.
Will you not need a guru or an experienced guide (bhomiyo)? Whoever is the guru, we are considered his followers. The guru walks ahead and shows us the way. Such a person is considered an experienced guide.
If a man takes the road going in the opposite direction of Surat, is he likely to reach Surat station if he keeps going in that direction? No matter how much he roams, he will not be able to find Surat station. The night would fall and the day would come but he would still not find Surat station. Such is the confusion
here.
Dadashri: The one that knows, is a guru. As long as you do not know the way, you need to ask someone, you may even have to ask a small child. Whomever you ask becomes your guru. Only when there is a guru will you find the way. What would happen without your eyes? The guru is the other eye. He clarifies your path and gives you the light to go ahead. This light is called sooj.
Who needs a Guru? Questioner:Do you mean to say that a guru is necessary?
Dadashri: It is like this: the road on which one gets lost is the road he is not able to figure out. If you do not know the way to the station, then it is a problem. However, if along the way, you encounter someone who knows the way, then you will reach the station quickly, will you not?
When you are lost, a guide is your friend Questioner: None of the gurus shows the right path.
Dadashri: But those gurus themselves do not know the way, so what can anyone do? No one has found an experienced guide yet. If he had, then he would not have these problems. If you had found such a guide, in addition to showing you the station he would also tell you which train to take. He would show you everything and your task would be finished. Here we have a situation
