Guru and Disciple

Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Mahavideh Foundation

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The Guru and the Disciple
The Guru and the Disciple
whatever facts this discussion will bring out. We will talk about the ultimate destination too. You ask, and I will answer.
which is applicable only to the Self (nischay) and apply it to worldly life (vyavahar)? Knowledge of what is the untruth is very necessary
Do you understand this discussion? I do not insist that what I say is correct. If you find it to be so, then accept it. I do not intend to make every discussion correct. If it suits you, then you should accept it and if you do not, it will not bother me. In any event, I have to tell the truth. Otherwise, people have just allowed all misrepresentations to continue.
Questioner: It is also said that the guru cannot give Gnan and that Gnan cannot be obtained without a guru. Can you explain that?
Questioner: But that is their viewpoint, is it not?
Dadashri: Yes, that is true, but I must disclose this truth because there are people out there who are trying to conceal it. And nobody has the courage to speak this truth out loud. Do you now know that all this is wrong?
Dadashri: That is true, is it not? If the guru ever tells you, 'It (Gnan) happened because of me,' then it is incorrect. Another person may say, 'It happens without the guru,' which, too, is incorrect. How do I address this issue? I tell you, 'I am giving you that which is already yours. I am not giving you anything that is mine.
Questioner: You are animit in all this, are you not?
Dadashri: Yes, of course, I am a nimit. I am telling you myself that I am animit. I am merely animit! But if you hold that I am simply animit then you will be at a loss. This is because your upkari bhaav (your sense of gratitude towards me) will disappear. The greater your gratitude towards me, the greater the results you attain. The upkari bhaav is regarded as bhakti (devotion and reverence).
Questioner: If we consider you animit, then our upkari bhaav goes away. I do not understand this.
Questioner: Yes Dada.
Dadashri: You should have knowledge of what is untrue. One man said to me, I can now tell if something is untrue.' That is what I wanted. Otherwise, uncertainty and doubts will remain; one may feel, 'There is some truth here and some truth there.' As long as this happens, you will not get the full taste of either one. Through your Gnan (knowledge), you should be able to tell if something is untrue, then everything will work out fine.
It is like this: if no one says anything, people will carry on as is. A Gnani Purush, like me, states the facts clearly: I can speak frankly and I can say things exactly as they are. Although (Dada is) only a nimit, (He is) Absolute
nevertheless
Dadashri: I am telling you that I am a nimit, but if you believe that I am a nimit then you will not benefit. If you feel gratitude towards me, then you will see the results. That is a rule of the world. However, this nimit (Dada) is animit that will take you to moksha, so have a lot of gratitude. One has to surrender to the Gnani Purush. In addition to feeling a deep gratitude, you should surrender your all; the mind, the body, and the speech. One should feel that he wants to do this readily and without hesitation.
Even the vitarags (fully enlightened ones), have said that
Ask me questions - you can ask anything. You can ask any question. This opportunity may never come again. So ask everything. The questions are good and people will come to know