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________________ zuddha prema svarupa, vahI paramAtmA 'jJAnI puruSa' kA zuddha prema jo dikhatA hai, aise khulA dikhatA hai, vahI paramAtmA hai| paramAtmA, vaha dUsarI koI vastu hI nahIM hai| zuddha prema jo dikhatA hai jo bar3hatA nahIM, ghaTatA nahIM, eka samAna hI rahA karatA hai, usakA nAma paramAtmA, ughAr3ekhulle paramAtmA ! aura jJAna, vaha sUkSma paramAtmA hai, vaha samajhane meM dera lgegii| isalie paramAtmA bAhara DhUMDhane nahIM jAnA hai| bAhara to Asakti hai sArI / 09 - dAdAzrI 9788189 933630 dAdA bhagavAna kathita prema
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________________ dAdA bhagavAna kathita prakAzaka : ajIta sI. paTela mahAvideha phAunDezana 'dAdA darzana', 5, mamatApArka sosAiTI, navagujarAta kaoNleja ke pIche, usmAnapurA, ahamadAbAda -380014, gujarAta phona - (079) 27540408, 27543979 All Rights reserved - Shri Deepakbhai Desai Trimandir, Simandhar City, Ahmedabad-Kalol Highway, Post - Adalaj, Dist.-Gandhinagar-382421, Gujarat, India. prema prathama saMskaraNa : 3000 pratiyA~, jUna 2010 bhAva mUlya : 'parama vinaya' aura 'maiM kucha bhI jAnatA nahIM', yaha bhAva! dravya mUlya : 20 rupaye | lesara kampoz2a : dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezana, ahamadAbAda mUla gujarAtI saMkalana : DaoN. nIrUbahana amIna anuvAda : mahAtmAgaNa mudraka : mahAvideha phAunDezana (prinTiMga DivIz2ana), pArzvanAtha caimbarsa, naI riz2arva baiMka ke pAsa, usmAnapurA, ahamadAbAda-380014, phona : (079) 27542964, 30004823
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________________ trimaMtra dAdA bhagavAna kauna? jana 1958 kI eka saMdhyA kA karIba cha: baje kA samaya, bhIr3a se bharA sUrata zahara kA relve sTezana, pleTaphArma naM. 3 kI beMca para baiThe zrI aMbAlAla mUlajIbhAI paTela rUpI dehamaMdira meM kudaratI rUpa se, akrama rUpa meM, kaI janmoM se vyakta hone ke lie Atura 'dAdA bhagavAna' pUrNa rUpa se prakaTa hue| aura kudarata ne sarjita kiyA adhyAtma kA adbhuta aashcry| eka ghaMTe meM unheM vizvadarzana huaa| 'maiM kauna? bhagavAna kauna? jagat kauna calAtA hai? karma kyA? mukti kyA?' ityAdi jagat ke sAre AdhyAtmika praznoM ke saMpUrNa rahasya prakaTa hue| isa taraha kudarata ne vizva ke sammukha eka advitIya pUrNa darzana prastuta kiyA aura usake mAdhyama bane zrI aMbAlAla mUlajIbhAI paTela, gujarAta ke carotara kSetra ke bhAdaraNa gA~va ke pATIdAra, kAnTrekTa kA vyavasAya karanevAle, phira bhI pUrNatayA vItarAga puruSa! unheM prApti huI, usI prakAra kevala do hI ghaMToM meM anya mumukSu janoM ko bhI ve AtmajJAna kI prApti karavAte the, unake adbhuta siddha hue jJAnaprayoga se| use akrama mArga khaa| akrama, arthAt binA krama ke, aura krama arthAt sIr3hI dara sIr3hI, kramAnusAra Upara cddh'naa| akrama arthAt liphTa mArga, zaoNrTa kaTa! ve svayaM pratyeka ko 'dAdA bhagavAna kauna?' kA rahasya batAte hue kahate the ki "yaha jo Apako dikhate hai ve dAdA bhagavAna nahIM hai, ve to 'e.ema.paTela' hai| hama jJAnI puruSa haiM aura bhItara prakaTa hue haiM, ve 'dAdA bhagavAna' haiN| dAdA bhagavAna to caudaha loka ke nAtha haiN| ve Apa meM bhI haiM, sabhI meM haiN| ApameM avyakta rUpa meM rahe hue haiM aura 'yahA~' hamAre bhItara saMpUrNa rUpa se vyakta hue haiN| dAdA bhagavAna ko maiM bhI namaskAra karatA huuN|" 'vyApAra meM dharma honA cAhie, dharma meM vyApAra nahIM', isa siddhAMta se unhoMne pUrA jIvana bitaayaa| jIvana meM kabhI bhI unhoMne kisIke pAsa se paisA nahIM liyA balki apanI kamAI se bhaktoM ko yAtrA karavAte the||
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________________ AtmajJAna prApti kI pratyakSa liMka 'maiM to kucha logoM ko apane hAthoM siddhi pradAna karanevAlA huuN| pIche anugAmI cAhie ki nahIM cAhie? pIche logoM ko mArga to cAhie na?" - dAdAzrI parama pUjya dAdAzrI gA~va-gA~va, deza-videza paribhramaNa karake mumukSu janoM ko satsaMga aura AtmajJAna kI prApti karavAte the / ApazrI ne apane jIvanakAla meM hI pUjya DaoN. nIrUbahana amIna (nIrUmA~) ko AtmajJAna prApta karavAne kI jJAnasiddhi pradAna kI thiiN| dAdAzrI ke dehavilaya pazcAt nIrUmA~ vaise hI mumukSujanoM ko satsaMga aura AtmajJAna kI prApti, nimitta bhAva se karavA rahI thii| pUjya dIpakabhAI desAI ko dAdAzrI ne satsaMga karane kI siddhi pradAna kI thii| nIrUmA~ kI upasthiti meM hI unake AzIrvAda se pUjya dIpakabhAI deza-videzo meM kaIM jagahoM para jAkara mumukSuoM ko AtmajJAna karavA rahe the, jo nIrUmA~ ke dehavilaya pazcAt Aja bhI jArI hai| isa AtmajJAnaprApti ke bAda haz2AroM mumukSu saMsAra meM rahate hue, jimmedAriyA~ nibhAte hue bhI mukta rahakara AtmaramaNatA kA anubhava karate haiN| graMtha meM mudrita vANI mokSArthI ko mArgadarzana meM atyaMta upayogI siddha hogI, lekina mokSaprApti hetu AtmajJAna prApta karanA z2arUrI hai| akrama mArga ke dvArA AtmajJAna kI prApti kA mArga Aja bhI khulA hai| jaise prajvalita dIpaka hI dUsarA dIpaka prajvalita kara sakatA hai, usI prakAra pratyakSa AtmajJAnI se AtmajJAna prApta kara kehI svayaM kA AtmA jAgRta ho sakatA hai| 4 nivedana parama pUjya 'dAdA bhagavAna' ke praznottarI satsaMga meM pUche gaye prazna ke uttara meM unake zrImukha se adhyAtma tathA vyavahAra jJAna saMbaMdhI jo vANI nikalI, usako rikaoNrDa karake, saMkalana tathA saMpAdana karake pustakoM ke rUpa meM prakAzita kiyA jAtA haiN| usI sAkSAta sarasvatI kA adbhuta saMkalana isa pustaka meM huA hai, jo hama sabake lie varadAnarUpa sAbita hogii| prastuta anuvAda kI vAkya racanA hindI vyAkaraNa ke mApadaNDa para zAyada pUrI na utare, parantu pUjya dAdAzrI kI gujarAtI vANI kA zabdazaH hindI anuvAda karane kA prayatna kiyA gayA hai, tAki vAcaka ko aisA anubhava ho ki dAdAjI kI hI vANI sunI jA rahI hai| phira bhI dAdAzrI ke AtmajJAna kA sahI Azaya, jyoM kA tyoM to, Apako gujarAtI bhASA meM hI avagata hogaa| jinheM jJAna kI gaharAI meM jAnA ho, jJAna kA sahI marma samajhanA ho, ve isa hetu gujarAtI bhASA sIkheM, aisA hamArA anurodha hai / anuvAda saMbaMdhI kamiyoM ke lie Apase kSamAprArthI haiN| pAThakoM se..... // isa pustaka meM mudrita pAThyasAmagrI mUlataH gujarAtI 'prema' kA hindI rupAMtara hai| isa pustaka meM 'AtmA' zabda kA prayoga saMskRta aura gujarAtI bhASA kI taraha pulliMga meM kiyA gayA hai| jahA~-jahA~ para 'caMdUlAla' nAma kA prayoga kiyA gayA hai, vahA~-vahA~ pAThaka svayaM kA nAma samajhakara paThana kreN| pustaka meM agara koI bAta Apa samajha na pAe~ to pratyakSa satsaMga meM padhArakara samAdhAna prApta kreN| dAdAzrI ke zrImukha se nikale kucha gujarAtI zabda jyoM ke tyoM ' iTAliksa' meM rakhe gaye haiM, kyoMki una zabdoM ke lie hindI meM aisA koI zabda nahIM hai, jo usakA pUrNa artha de ske| hAlA~ki una zabdoM ke samAnArthI zabda () meM artha ke rUpa meM diye gaye haiN| aise sabhI zabda aura zabdArtha pustaka ke aMta meM bhI die gae haiN| 5
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________________ saMpAdakIya prema zabda itanA adhika ulaTA-palaTA gayA hai ki hameM paga-paga para prazna huA karatA hai ki ise to kahIM prema kahate hoMge? prema ho vahA~ aisA to ho sakatA hai? saccA prema kahA~ milegA? saccA prema kise kahanA? prema kI yathArtha paribhASA to premamUrti jJAnI hI dete haiN| bar3he nahIM, ghaTe nahIM, vaha saccA prem| jo car3ha jAe aura utara jAe vaha prema nahIM, para Asakti kahalAtA hai ! jisameM koI apekSA nahIM, svArtha nahIM, matalaba nahIM yA doSadRSTi nahIM, niraMtara eka samAna rahe, phUla car3hAe vahA~ Avega nahIM, gAlI de vahA~ abhAva nahIM, aisA aghaTa aura apAra prema, vahI sAkSAt paramAtma prema hai ! aise anupama prema ke darzana to jJAnI puruSa meM yA saMpUrNa vItarAga bhagavAna meM hote hai| moha ko bhI apane loga prema mAnate haiM ! moha meM badale kI AzA hotI hai ! vaha nahIM mile taba jo aMdara vilApa hotA hai, usa para se patA calatA hai ki yaha zaddha prema nahIM thA ! prema meM sinsiyAriTI hotI hai. saMkacitatA nahIM hotii| mA~ kA prema vyavahAra meM ucca prakAra kA kahA gayA hai| phira bhI, vahA~ bhI kisI kone meM apekSA aura abhAva Ate haiN| moha hone ke kAraNa Asakti hI kahalAtI hai! ___ beTA bArahavIM kakSA meM nabbe pratizata mArksa lAyA ho to mA~-bApa khuza hokara pArTI dete haiM aura beTe kI hoziyArI ke bakhAna karate nahIM thakate! aura use skUTara lA dete haiN| vahI beTA cAra dina bAda phira skUTara TakarA de, skUTara kA kacaraghAna kara DAle to ve hI mA~-bApa use kyA kahate haiM? bagaira akkala kA hai, mUrkha hai, aba tujhe kucha nahIM milegA! cAra dina meM to sarTiphikeTa vApisa le liyA ! prema sArA hI utara gayA! ise to kahIM prema kahA jAtA hai? vyavahAra meM bhI bAlaka, naukara yA koI bhI prema se hI vaza ho sakatA hai, dUsare saba hathiyAra bekAra siddha hote hai aMta meM to! isa kAla meM aise prema ke darzana haz2AroM ko paramAtma prema svarUpa zrI dAdA bhagavAna meM hue| eka bAra jo koI unakI abhedatA cakhakara gayA, vaha niraMtara unake nididhyAsana yA to unakI yAda meM rahatA hai, saMsAra kI saba jaMjAloM meM jakar3A huA hone ke bAvajUda bhI! hajAroM logoM ko pUjyazrI varSoM taka eka kSaNa bhI bisarate nahIM, vaha isa kAla kA mahAna Azcarya hai!! haz2AroM loga pUjyazrI ke saMsarga meM Ae, para unakI karuNA, unakA prema hara eka para barasatA huA sabane anubhava kiyaa| hara eka ko aisA hI lagatA hai ki mujha para sabase adhika kRpA hai, rAjIpA (gurajanoM kI kRpA aura prasannatA) hai! aura saMpUrNa vItarAgoM ke prema kI to varlDa meM koI misAla hI na mile! eka bAra vItarAga ke, unakI vItarAgatA ke darzana ho jAe~, vahA~ khuda sArI z2indagI samarpaNa ho jaae| usa prema ko eka kSaNa bhI bhUla na sake ! sAmanevAlA vyakti kisa prakAra AtyaMtika kalyANa ko pAe, niraMtara usI lakSya ke kAraNa yaha prema, yaha karuNA phalita hotI huI dikhatI hai| jagat ne dekhA nahIM, sunA nahIM, zraddhA meM nahIM AyA, anubhava nahIM kiyA, aisA paramAtma prema pratyakSa meM prApta karanA ho to premasvarUpa pratyakSa jJAnI kI hI bhajanA krnii| bAkI, vaha zabdoM meM kisa taraha samAe?! - DaoN. nIrubahana amIna ke jaya saccidAnaMda
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________________ prema prema, zabda alaukika bhASA kA praznakartA : vAstava meM prema vastu kyA hai? mujhe vaha vistArapUrvaka samajhanA hai| dAdAzrI : jagat meM yaha jo prema bolA jAtA hai na, vaha prema ko nahIM samajhane ke kAraNa bolate haiN| prema kI paribhASA hogI yA nahIM hogI ? kyA Dephinezana hai prema kI ? praznakartA: koI aTecamenTa kahatA hai, koI vAtsalya kahatA hai| bahuta taraha ke prema hai| dAdAzrI : naa| asala meM jise prema kahA jAtA hai, usakI paribhASA to hogI hI na? praznakartA: mujhe Apase kisI phala kI AzA na ho, use hama saccA prema kaha sakate haiM? dAdAzrI : vaha prema hai hI nhiiN| prema saMsAra meM hotA hI nhiiN| vaha alaukika tattva hai| saMsAra meM jaba se alaukika bhASA samajhane lagatA hai, taba se hI usa prema kA upAdAna hotA hai| praznakartA : isa jagat meM prema kA tattva jo samajhAyA hai vaha kyA hai ? dAdAzrI : jagat meM jo prema zabda hai na, vaha alaukika bhASA kA zabda hai, vaha lokavyavahAra meM A gayA hai| bAkI, apane loga, prema ko samajhate hI nhiiN| isameM saccA prema kahA~? prema ApameM prema hai? Apake bacce para Apako prema hai kyA? praznakartA: hogA hI na ! dAdAzrI : to phira mArate ho kisI dina? kisI dina mArA nahIM baccoM ko? DA~TA bhI nahIM? praznakartA: vaha to kabhI DA~TanA to par3atA hI hai na! dAdAzrI : taba prema aisI cIz2a hai ki doSa nahIM dikhte| isalie doSa dikhate hai vaha prema nahIM thaa| aisA Apako lagatA hai? mujhe ina saba para prema hai| kisI kA bhI doSa mujhe dikhA nahIM abhI tk| to ApakA prema kisa para hai, vaha kaho na mujhe? Apa kahate ho, 'mere pAsa prema kI silaka (jamApUMjI ) hai' to kahA~ hai vaha ? saccA prema hotA hai ahetukI praznakartA: phira to Izvara ke prati prema, vahI prema kahalAtA hai na? dAdAzrI : naa| Izvara ke prati bhI prema nahIM hai Apako ! prema vastu alaga hai| prema kisI bhI hetu bagaira kA honA cAhie, ahetukI honA caahie| Izvara ke sAtha prema to dUsaroM ke sAtha kyoM prema nahIM karate? unase kucha kAma hai Apako! madara ke sAtha prema hai, vahA~ koI kAma hai| para prema ahetukI honA caahie| yaha mujhe Apa para bhI prema hai aura ina saba para bhI prema hai, para merA hetu nahIM hai koI isake pIche ! nahIM svArtha prema meM bAkI, yaha to jagat meM svArtha hai| 'maiM hU~' aisA ahaMkAra hai taba taka svArtha hai / aura svArtha rahe vahA~ prema hotA nhiiN| jahA~ svArtha ho vahA~ prema raha nahIM sakatA, aura prema ho vahA~ svArtha raha nahIM sakatA /
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________________ isalie jahA~ svArtha na ho vahA~ para zuddha prema hotA hai| svArtha kaba nahIM hotA? 'merA-terA' na ho taba svArtha nahIM hotaa| 'merA-terA' hai. vahA~ avazya svArtha hai aura 'merA-terA' jahA~ hai vahA~ ajJAnatA hai| ajJAnatA ke kAraNa 'merA-terA' huaa| 'merA-terA' ke kAraNa svArtha hai aura svArtha ho vahA~ prema nahIM hotaa| aura 'merA-terA' kaba nahIM hotA? 'jJAna' ho vahA~ 'merAterA' nahIM hotaa| jJAna ke binA to 'merA-terA' hotA hI hai na? phira bhI yaha samajha meM Ae aisI vastu nahIM hai| jagat ke loga prema kahate haiM vaha bhrAMti bhASA kI bAta hai, chalane kI bAta hai| alaukika prema kI hUMpha (saMrakSaNa, Azraya) to bahuta alaga hI hotI hai| prema to sabase bar3I vastu hai| DhAI akSara prema ke..... isalie to kabIra sAhaba ne kahA hai, 'pustaka par3ha par3ha jaga mUA, paMDita bhayA na koI, DhAI akSara prema kA, par3he so paMDita hoii|' prema ke DhAI akSara itanA hI samajhe to bahuta ho gyaa| bAkI, pustaka par3he use to kabIra sAhaba itanI bar3I-bar3I dete the, ye pustaka to par3hakara jagat mara gayA, para paMDita koI huA nhiiN| eka prema ke DhAI akSara samajhane ke lie| parantu DhAI akSara prApta hue nahIM aura bhaTaka mre| isalie pustaka meM to aise dekhate rahate haiM na, vaha to saba meDanesa vastu hai| parantu jo DhAI akSara prema kA samajhA vaha paMDita ho gayA, aisA kabIra sAhaba ne kahA hai| kabIra sAhaba kI bAteM sunI haiM sabhI? prema ho to bichar3eM kabhI bhI nhiiN| yaha to sabhI matalabavAlA prema hai| matalabavAlA prema, vaha prema kahalAtA hai? praznakartA : use Asakti kahA jAtA hai? dAdAzrI : hai hI Asakti / aura prema to anAsakta yoga hai| anAsakta yoga se saccA prema utpanna hotA hai| prema kI yathArtha paribhASA dAdAzrI : voTa ija da Dephinezana oNpha lava? praznakartA : mujhe patA nhiiN| vaha smjhaaie| dAdAzrI : are, maiM hI bacapana se prema kI paribhASA DhUMDha rahA thA na ! mujhe huA, prema kyA hotA hogA? ye loga 'prema-prema' kiyA karate haiM, vaha prema kyA hogA? usake bAda sabhI pustake dekhIM, sabhI zAstra paDhe. para prema kI paribhASA kisI jagaha para milI nhiiN| mujhe Azcarya lagA ki kisI bhI zAstra meM 'prema kyA hai', aisI paribhASA hI nahIM dI?! phira jaba kabIra sAhaba kI pustaka par3hI, taba dila TharA ki prema kI paribhASA to inhoMne dI hai| vaha paribhASA mujhe kAma lgii| ve kyA kahate haiM ki, 'ghar3I car3he, ghar3I utare, vaha to prema na hoya, aghaTa prema hI hRdaya base, prema kahie soy|' unhoMne paribhASA dii| mujhe to bahuta suMdara lagI thI paribhASA, kahanA par3egA kabIra sAhaba, dhanya hai!' yaha sabase saccA prem| ghar3I meM car3he aura ghar3I meM utare vaha prema kahalAegA?! praznakartA : to saccA prema kise kahA jAtA hai? dAdAzrI : saccA prema jo car3he nahIM, ghaTe nahIM vaha ! hamArA jJAniyoM kA prema aisA hotA hai, jo kama-jyAdA nahIM hotaa| aisA hamArA saccA prema pUre varlDa para hotA hai| aura vaha prema to paramAtmA hai| praznakartA : phira bhI jagat meM kahIM to prema hogA na? dAdAzrI : kisI jagaha para prema hI nahIM hai| prema jaisI vastu hI isa jagat meM nahIM hai| sabhI Asakti hI hai| ulTA bolate haiM na, taba turanta patA cala jAtA hai| abhI Aja koI Ae the vilAyata se, to Aja to unake sAtha hI baiThe rahane meM acchA lagatA hai| usake sAtha hI khAnA-ghUmanA acchA lagatA
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________________ yA bhagavAna hoM taba prema dekhatA hai, prema meM kama-jyAdA nahIM hotA, anAsakta hotA hai, vaisA jJAniyoM kA prema vahI paramAtmA hai| saccA prema vahI paramAtmA hai, dUsarI koI vastu paramAtmA hai nhiiN| saccA prema, vahA~ paramAtmApana prakaTa hotA hai! sadA aghaTa, 'jJAnI' kA prema praznakartA : to phira isa prema ke prakAra kitane haiM, kaise haiM, vaha saba samajhAie na! hai| aura dUsare dina vaha hamase kahe, 'nonasensa jaise ho gae ho|' to ho gayA! aura 'jJAnI puruSa' ko to sAta bAra nonasensa kaheM taba bhI kaheMge, 'hA~ bhAI, baiTha, tU baitth|' kyoMki 'jJAnI' khuda jAnate haiM ki yaha bolatA hI nahIM, yaha rikaoNrDa bola rahI hai| yaha saccA prema to kaisA hai ki jisake pIche dveSa hI nahIM ho| jahA~ prema meM, prema ke pIche dveSa hai, usa prema ko prema kahA hI kaise jAe? ekasA prema honA caahie| 'prema', vahIM para paramAtmA praznakartA : to saccA prema yAnI kama-jyAdA nahIM hotaa| dAdAzrI : saccA prema kama-jyAdA nahIM ho, vaisA hI hotA hai| yaha to prema huA ho to yadi kabhI gAliyA~ deM to usake sAtha jhagar3A ho jAe, aura phUla car3hAe~ to vApisa hamase cipaka jAtA hai| praznakartA : vyavahAra meM ghaTatA-bar3hatA hai usI prakAra hI hotA hai| dAdAzrI: ina logoM kA prema to sAre dina kama-jyAdA hI hotA rahatA hai na! beTe-beTiyoM sabhI para dekho na kama-jyAdA hI huA karatA hai na! riztedAra, sabhI jagaha bar3hatA-ghaTatA hI rahatA hai na! are, khuda apane para bhI bar3hatA-ghaTatA hI rahatA hai na! ghar3I meM zIze meM dekhe to kahe, 'aba maiM acchA dikhatA huuN|' eka ghar3I bAda 'nA, ThIka nahIM hai' khegaa| yAnI khuda para bhI prema kama-jyAdA hotA hai| yaha jimmedArI nahIM samajhane se hI yaha saba hotA hai na! kitanI bar3I jimmedArI! praznakartA : taba ye loga kahate haiM na prema sIkho, prema sIkho! dAdAzrI : para yaha prema hI nahIM hai na! ye to laukika bAteM haiN| ise prema kauna kahe phira? logoM kA prema jo ghaTatA-bar3hatA hotA hai vaha saba Asakti, nirI Asakti hai! jagat meM Asakti hI hai| prema jagat ne dekhA nahIM hai| hamArA zuddha prema hai isalie logoM para asara hotA hai, logoM ko phAyadA hotA hai, nahIM to phAyadA hI nahIM ho na! ekabAra kabhI jJAnI puruSa dAdAzrI : do hI prakAra ke prema haiN| eka ghaTane-bar3hanevAlA, ghaTe taba Asakti kahalAtA hai aura bar3he taba Asakti kahalAtA hai| aura eka ghaTatAbar3hatA nahIM hai vaisA anAsakta prema, vaisA jJAniyoM ko hotA hai| jJAnI kA prema to zuddha prema hai| aisA prema kahIM bhI dekhane ko nahIM mile| duniyA meM jahA~ Apa dekhate ho, vaha sArA hI prema matalabavAlA prema hai| patnI-pati kA, mA~-bApa kA, bApa-beTe kA, mA~-beTe kA, seTha-naukara kA, hara eka kA prema matalabavAlA hotA hai| matalabavAlA hai, vaha kaba samajha meM AtA hai ki jaba vaha prema phrekcara ho jaae| jaba taka mIThAsa baratatI hai taba taka kucha nahIM lagatA, para kar3avAhaTa khar3I ho taba patA calatA hai| are, pUrI z2indagI bApa ke saMpUrNa kahe meM rahA ho aura eka hI bAra gusse meM, saMyogavaza yadi bApa ko beTA'Apa bagaira akkala ke ho' aisA kahe. to pUrI z2indagI ke lie saMbaMdha TUTa jAtA hai| bApa kahe, tU merA beTA nahIM aura maiM terA bApa nhiiN| yadi saccA prema ho taba to vaha hamezA ke lie vaise kA vaisA hI rahe, phira gAliyA~ de yA jhagar3A kre| usake sivA ke prema ko to saccA prema kisa taraha kahA jAe? matalabavAlA prema, use hI Asakti kahA jAtA hai| vaha to vyApArI aura grAhaka jaisA prema hai, saudebAz2I hai| jagata kA prema to Asakti kahalAtA hai| prema to usakA nAma kahalAtA hai ki sAtha hI sAtha rahanA acchA lge| usakI sArI hI bAteM acchI lge| usameM ekzana aura riekzana nahIM hote| prema pravAha to eka sarIkhA hI bahA karatA hai| ghaTatA-bar3hatA nahIM hai, pUraNa-galana nahIM hotaa| Asakti pUraNa-galana
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________________ taba maiM samajhAtA hU~ ki jo prema ghaTe-bar3he vaha saccA prema hI nahIM hai| Apa hIre ke Topsa lAkara do, usa dina bahuta prema bar3ha jAtA hai, aura phira Topsa na lAe to prema ghaTa jAtA hai, usakA nAma prema nahIM khlaataa| praznakartA : saccA prema kama-jyAdA nahIM hotA, to usakA svarUpa kaisA hotA hai? svabhAva kI hotI hai| koI beTA akkala bagaira kI bAta kare ki 'dAdAjI, Apako to maiM aba khAne para bhI nahIM bulAU~gA aura pAnI bhI nahIM pilAU~gA', taba bhI ina 'dAdAjI' kA prema utare nahIM aura vaha acchA bhojana khilAyA kare to bhI 'dAdAjI' kA prema car3he nahIM, use prema kahA jAtA hai| yAnI bhojana karavAe to bhI prema aura na karavAe to bhI prema, gAliyA~ de to bhI prema aura gAliyA~ na de to bhI prema, saba tarapha prema hI dikhatA hai| isalie saccA prema to hamArA kahalAtA hai| vaise kA vaisA hI hai na? pahale dina jo thA, vaise kA vaisA hI hai na? are, Apa mujhe bIsa sAla ke bAda milo na to bhI prema bar3he-ghaTe nahIM, prema vaise kA vaisA hI dikhe! svArtha binA kA sneha nahIM saMsAra meM praznakartA : mAtA kA prema adhika acchA mAnA jAtA hai, isa vyavahAra dAdAzrI : phira dUsare naMbara para? praznakartA : dUsare koI nhiiN| dUsare saba svArtha ke prema dAdAzrI : aisA? bhAI-vAI sabhI svArtha? nA, Apane prayoga karake nahIM dekhA hogA? praznakartA : sabhI anubhava hai| dAdAzrI: aura ye loga rote haiM na, ve bhI sacce prema kA nahIM rote haiM, svArtha ke lie rote haiN| aura yaha to prema hI nahIM hai| yaha to saba Asakti kahalAtI hai| svArtha se Asakti utpanna hotI hai| ghara meM hameM sabhI ke sAtha ghaTa-bar3ha binA kA prema rakhanA hai| parantu unheM kyA kahanA hai ki, 'Apake bagaira hameM acchA nahIM lgtaa|' vyavahAra se to bolanA par3atA hai na! parantu prema to ghaTa-bar3ha bagaira kA rakhanA caahie| isa saMsAra meM yadi koI kahegA, 'to strI kA prema vaha prema nahIM hai?' dAdAzrI : vaha kama-jyAdA nahIM hotaa| jaba dekho taba prema vaisA kA vaisA hI dikhatA hai| yaha to ApakA kAma kara deM taba taka usakA prema Apake sAtha rahatA hai, aura kAma na karake deM to prema TUTa jAtA hai, use prema kahA hI kaise jAe? isalie sacce prema kI paribhASA kyA? phUla car3hAnevAle aura gAliyA~ denevAle, donoM para samAna prema ho, usakA nAma prema / dUsarI sabhI aasktiyaaN| yaha prema kI Dephinezana kahatA huuN| prema aisA honA caahie| vahI paramAtma prema hai aura yadi vaha prema utpanna huA to dUsarI koI z2arUrata hI nhiiN| yaha to prema kI hI qImata hai saba! mohavAlA prema, bekAra praznakartA : manuSya prema ke binA jI sakatA hai kyA? dAdAzrI : jisake sAtha prema kiyA usane liyA DAyavorsa, to phira kisa taraha jIe vaha?! kyoM bolate nahIM? Apako bolanA cAhie na? praznakartA : saccA prema ho to jI sakatA hai| yadi moha hotA ho to nahIM jI sktaa| dAdAzrI : sahI kahA yh| hama prema kareM taba vaha DAyavorsa leM. to kisa kAma kA aisA prema! vaha prema kahalAe hI kaise? apanA prema kabhI bhI na TUTe aisA honA cAhie, cAhe jo ho phira bhI prema na ttuutte| matalaba saccA prema ho to jI sakatA hai| praznakartA : sirpha moha ho to nahIM jI sktaa|
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________________ dAdAzrI : mohavAlA prema to bekAra hai saaraa| taba aise prema meM mata phNsnaa| paribhASAvAlA prema honA caahie| prema ke binA manuSya jI nahIM sakatA, vaha bAta saccI hai, para prema paribhASAvAlA honA caahie| prema kI paribhASA Apako samajha meM AI? vaisA prema ddhuuNddho| aba aisA prema mata DhUMDhanA ki kala subaha vaha DAyavorsa le le| inake kyA ThikAne?! praznakartA : prema aura moha, usameM moha meM nyochAvara hone meM badale kI AzA hai aura isa prema meM badale kI AzA nahIM hai, to prema meM nyochAvara ho jAe to pUrNa pada ko prApta karegA? dAdAzrI : isa duniyA meM koI bhI vyakti satya prema kI zurUAta kare to bhagavAna ho jaae| satya prema binA milAvaTavAlA hotA hai| usa satya prema meM viSaya nahIM hotA, lobha nahIM hotA, mAna nahIM hotaa| vaisA binA milAvaTavAlA prema, vaha bhagavAna banA detA hai, saMpUrNa banA detA hai| rAste to sabhI AsAna hai, para aisA honA muzkila hai na! praznakartA : usI prakAra kisI bhI moha ke pIche jIvana nyochAvara karane kI zakti le to pariNAmasvarUpa pUrNatA AtI hai? to vaha dhyeya kI pUrNatA ko prApta karatA hai? dAdAzrI : yadi moha ke pIche nyochAvara kare taba to phira moha hI prApta karegA aura moha hI prApta kiyA hai na logoM ne! praznakartA : ye lar3ake-lar3akiyA~ prema karate haiM abhI ke jamAne meM, ve moha se karate haiM isalie phela hote haiM? dAdAzrI : sirpha moha ! Upara ceharA suMdara dikhatA hai, isalie prema dikhatA hai, para vaha prema kahalAtA nahIM na! abhI yahA~ para eka pha~sI ho jAe na to pAsa meM jAe nahIM phir| yaha to Ama aMdara se cakhakara dekheM na taba patA cle| mu~ha bigar3a jAe to bigar3a jAe para mahIne taka khAne kA acchA nahIM lgtaa| yahA~ bAraha mahInoM taka itanI bar3I pha~sI ho jAe na to mu~ha na dekhe, moha chUTa jAe aura jaba saccA prema ho to eka pha~sI, are do phusiyA~ hoM, taba bhI na chuutte| to aisA prema DhUMDha nikaalnaa| nahIM to zAdI hI mata krnaa| nahIM to pha~sa jaaoge| phira vaha mu~ha car3hAegI taba kaheMge, 'isakA mu~ha dekhanA mujhe pasaMda nahIM hai|''are, acchA dekhA thA usase tujhe pasaMda AyA thA na, aba aisA nahIM pasaMda?' yaha to mIThA bolate haiM na isalie pasaMda AtA hai| aura kar3avA bole to kaheMge, 'mujhe tere sAtha pasaMda hI nahIM lgtaa|' praznakartA : vaha bhI Asakti hI hai na? dAdAzrI : sabhI aaskti| pasaMda AyA aura nahIM pasaMda, pasaMda AyA aura nahIM pasaMda' aise kalaha karatA rahatA hai| aise prema kA kyA karanA? moha meM dagA-mAra bahata mAra khAe~ taba jo moha thA na vaha moha chuTa jAtA hai saaraa| sirpha moha hI thaa| usakA hI mAra khAte rahe haiN| praznakartA : moha aura prema, ina donoM ke bIca kI bhedarekhA kyA hai? dAdAzrI : yaha pataMgA hai na, yaha pataMgA dIye ke pIche par3akara aura yAhoma ho jAtA hai na? vaha khuda kI jindagI khatama kara DAlatA hai, vaha moha kahalAtA hai| jaba ki prema TikatA hai, prema TikAU hotA hai, vaha moha nahIM hotaa| moha matalaba yUz2alesa jiivn| vaha to aMdhe hone ke barAbara hai| aMdhA vyakti kIr3e kI taraha ghUmatA hai aura mAra khAtA hai, usake jaisaa| aura prema to TikAU hotA hai| usameM to sArI z2indagI kA sukha cAhie hotA hai| vaha tAtkAlika sukha DhUMDhe aisA nahIM na! yAnI yaha saba moha hI hai na! moha matalaba khulA dgaa-maar| moha matalaba haMDreDa parasenTa dage nikale haiN| praznakartA : para yaha moha hai aura yaha prema hai aisA sAmAnya vyakti
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________________ ko kisa taraha patA cale? eka vyakti ko saccA prema hai yA yaha usakA moha hai, aisA khuda ko kaise patA cale? dAdAzrI: vaha to jhiDakeM, taba apane Apa patA calatA hai| eka dina jhir3aka deM aura vaha cir3ha jAe, taba samajha leM ki yaha yujalesa hai ! phira dazA kyA ho? isase to pahale se hI khddkaaeN| rupayA khaDakAkara dekhate haiM, kaladAra hai yA khoTA hai vaha turanta patA cala jAtA hai na? koI bahAnA nikAlakara aura khdd'kaaeN| abhI to nire bhayaMkara svArtha! svArtha ke lie bhI koI prema dikhAtA hai| para eka dina khar3akAkara dekheM to patA cale ki yaha saccA prema hai yA nahIM? praznakartA : saccA prema ho vahA~ kaisA hotA hai, khar3akAe taba bhI? dAdAzrI : vaha khar3akAe taba bhI zAMta rahakara khuda use nukasAna na ho vaisA karatA hai| saccA prema ho, vahA~ gale utAra letA hai| aba, bilakula badamAza ho na to vaha bhI gale utAra letA hai| (prUpha) ikaTThe hote haiM, saba eviDensa ikaTThe hote haiM, taba phira balA lipaTa jAtI hai| praznakartA : balA kyA hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, vaha maiM btaauuN| eka nAgara brAhmaNa thA, vaha oNphisara thaa| vaha usake beTe ko kahatA hai, 'yaha tU ghUma rahA thA, maiMne tujhe dekhA thA, tU sAtha meM balA kisalie lekara ghUmatA hai?' lar3akA kaoNleja meM par3hatA thA, kisI garlaphrenDa ke sAtha usake bApa ne dekhA hogaa| use balA ye loga nahIM kahate. para ye parAne jamAne ke loga use balA kahate haiN| kyoMki phAdara ke mana meM aisA huA ki 'yaha mUrkha AdamI samajhatA nahIM, prema kyA hai vh| prema ko samajhatA nahIM aura mAra khA jaaegaa| yaha balA lipaTI hai, isalie mAra khA-khAkara mara jaaegaa|' prema ko nibhAnA vaha AsAna nahIM hai| prema karanA sabhI ko AtA hai, para use nibhAnA AsAna nahIM hai| isalie usake phAdara ne kahA ki, 'yaha balA kisalie khar3I kI?' taba vaha lar3akA kahatA hai, 'bApUjI, kyA kahate ho yaha Apa? vaha to merI garlaphrenDa hai| Apa ise balA kahate ho yoM? merI nAka kaTa jAe aisA bolate ho? aisA nahIM bolte|' taba bApa kahatA hai, 'nahIM bolUMgA ab|' usa garlaphrenDa ke sAtha do varSa dostI clii| phira vaha dUsare kisI ke sAtha sinemA dekhane AI thI aura vaha usane dekha liyaa| isalie usake mana meM aisA lagA ki yaha to pApAjI kaha rahe the ki 'yaha balA lipaTAI hai', yAnI vaisI yaha balA hI hai| isalie purAve (ghaTaka, paristhitiyA~) mila jAe~ na to balA lipaTa jAtI hai, phira chUTatA nahIM aura dUsaroM ko lekara phireM taba phira rAta-dina lar3ake ko nIMda hI nahIM aatii| hotA hai yA nahIM hotA aisA? usa lar3ake ne jaba jAnA ki 'yaha to balA hI hai| mere pApA kahate the vaha saccI bAta hai|' taba se vaha balA chUTane lgii| matalaba, jaba taka garlaphrenDa kahe aura use balA samajhe nahIM taba taka kisa taraha chUTe?! praznakartA : to phira yaha moha aura prema, usakA nirNaya karanA ho vaha prema yA balA? praznakartA : do loga premI hoM aura gharavAloM kA sAtha nahIM mile to AtmahatyA kara lete haiN| aisA bahuta bAra hotA hai to vaha prema hai, use kyA prema mAnA jAegA? dAdAzrI : AvArA prema! use prema hI kaise kahA jAe? imozanala hote haiM aura paTarI para so jAte haiM ! aura kaheMge, 'agale bhava meM donoM sAtha meM hI hoNge|' to vaha aisI AzA kisI ko karanI nahIM caahie| ve unake karma ke hisAba se phirate haiN| ve vApisa ikaTThe hI nahIM hoMge!! praznakartA : ikaTThe hone kI icchA ho taba bhI ikaTThe hote hI nahIM? dAdAzrI : icchA rakhane se kahIM dina phirate haiM? agalA bhava to karmoM kA phala hai na! yaha to imozanalapana hai| Apa choTe the taba aisI balA lipaTI thI kisI taraha kI? taba purAve
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________________ to kisa taraha kiyA jA sakatA hai? prema hai| Izvara meM ruci hI nahIM aura isalie Izvara meM ramaNatA hI nahIM hai| vaha to jaba bhaya lage, taba Izvara yAda Ate haiN| praznakartA : Izvara meM ruci to hotI hai, phira bhI kucha AvaraNa aise baMdha jAte haiM isalie Izvara kA nAma nahIM le sakate hoNge| dAdAzrI : prema hai hI nahIM, to phira prema kI bAta kisalie karate ho? prema hai hI nhiiN| saba moha hI hai yaha to| moha! mUrchita ho jAtA hai| bebhAnapana, bilakula bhAna hI nahIM! sinsiyAriTI vahA~ saccA prema sAmanevAle se kalamo (niyama) cAhe jitanI TeM, saba Amane-sAmane die hue jo vacana cAhe jitane tor3eM parantu phira bhI sinsiyAriTI jAe nahIM, sinsiyAriTI sirpha vartana meM hI nahIM para A~khoM meM bhI nahIM jAnI cAhie, taba samajhanA ki yahA~ prema hai| isalie vaisA prema ddhuuNddhnaa| ise prema mAnanA nhiiN| yaha bAhara jo calA hai, vaha bAz2ArU prema-Asakti hai| vaha vinAza laaegaa| phira bhI chuTakArA nahIM hai| usake lie maiM Apako rAstA btaauuNgaa| Asakti meM par3e bagaira bhI chuTakArA hI nahIM hai na! bhagavat prema kI prApti praznakartA : to Izvara kA parama, pavitra, prabala prema saMpAdana karane ke lie kyA karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : Apako Izvara kA prema prApta karanA hai? praznakartA : hA~, karanA hai| aMta meM haraeka manuSya kA dhyeya yahI hai na? merA prazna yahIM para hai ki Izvara kA prema saMpAdana kareM kisa taraha? dAdAzrI : prema to yahA~ sabhI logoM ko karanA hotA hai. para mIThA lage to kare na? usa taraha se Izvara kahIM bhI mIThA lagA ho, vaha mujhe dikhAo na! praznakartA : kyoMki yaha jIva aMtima kSaNa meM jaba deha chor3atA hai, phira bhI Izvara kA nAma nahIM le sktaa| dAdAzrI : kisa taraha Izvara kA nAma le sakegA? use jahA~ ruci ho na, vaha nAma le skegaa| jahA~ ruci, vahA~ usakI khuda kI ramaNatA hotI dAdAzrI : parantu Izvara para prema Ae bagaira kisakA nAma leM ve? Izvara para prema AnA cAhie na! aura Izvara ko prema bahuta kare usameM kyA phAyadA? merA kahanA hai ki yaha Ama hotA hai, vaha mIThA lage to prema hotA hai aura kar3avA lage yA khaTTA lage to? vaise hI Izvara kahA~ para mIThA lagA, ki Apako prema ho? aisA hai, jIva mAtra ke aMdara bhagavAna baiThe hue haiM, cetanarUpa meM hai, ki jo cetana jagat ke lakSya meM hI nahIM aura jo cetana nahIM hai, use cetana mAnate haiN| isa zarIra meM jo bhAga cetana nahIM hai, use cetana mAnate haiM aura jo cetana hai vaha usake lakSya meM hI nahIM, bhAna meM hI nhiiN| aba vaha zuddha cetana matalaba zaddhAtmA aura vahI paramezvara hai| usakA nAma kaba yAda AegA? ki jaba hameM usakI tarapha se kucha lAbha ho aura tabhI una para prema AtA hai| jina para prema Ae na, ve hameM yAda Ate haiM to unakA nAma le sakate haiN| isalie prema Ae aise hameM mileM, taba ve hameM yAda rahA karate haiN| Apako 'dAdA' yAda Ate haiM? praznakartA : haaN| dAdAzrI : unheM prema hai Apa para, isalie yAda Ate haiN| aba prema kyoM AyA? kyoMki 'dAdA' ne koI sukha diyA hai ki jisase prema utpanna huA, aura vaha prema utpanna ho taba phira bhUlA hI nahIM jAtA na! vaha yAda hI nahIM karanA hotaa| yAnI bhagavAna yAda kaba Ate haiM? ki bhagavAna apane para kucha kapA dikhAe~, hameM kucha sukha deM, taba yAda Ate haiN| eka AdamI mujhe kahatA hai ki, 'mujhe patnI ke binA acchA hI nahIM lgtaa|' are, kisa taraha? patnI
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________________ prema na ho to kyA hogA? taba vaha kahatA hai, 'taba to maiM mara jaauuN|' are, para kisalie? taba vaha kahatA hai, 'vaha patnI to sukha detI hai|' aura sukha na detI ho aura mAra mAratI ho taba? taba bhI use phira yAda AtA hai| isalie rAga aura dveSa donoM meM yAda AtA rahatA hai| pazu-pakSiyoM meM bhI prema yAnI vastu samajhanI par3egI na! abhI Apako aisA lagatA hai ki prema jaisI vastu hai isa saMsAra meM? praznakartA : abhI to, baccoM ko pyAra karate haiM use hI prema mAnate haiM na! dAdAzrI : aisA? prema to ye cir3iyA ko usake baccoM para hotA hai| vaha cir3iyA caina se dAne lAkara aura ghoMsale meM AtI hai, isalie ve bacce 'mA~ AI. mA~ AI' karake rakha dete hai| taba cir3iyA una baccoM ke mu~ha meM dAne rakha detI hai| 'vaha dAneM kitane rakhe rakhatI hogI aMdara mu~ha meM? aura kisa taraha eka eka dAnA nikAlatI hogI?' aise meM vicAra meM par3a gayA thaa| vaha cAroM hI baccoM ko eka-eka dAnA mu~ha meM rakha detI hai| praznakartA : para unameM Asakti kahA~ se AtI hai? unameM buddhi nahIM hai na! dAdAzrI : hA~, vahI maiM kahatA hU~ na? isalie yaha to eka dekhane ke lie kahatA huuN| asala meM to vaha prema mAnA hI nahIM jaataa| prema samajhadArIpUrvaka kA honA caahie| para vaha bhI prema mAnA nahIM jAtA para phira bhI apane yahA~ donoM kA bheda samajhAne ke lie udAharaNa dete haiN| apane loga nahIM kahate ki bhAI, isa gAya ko bachar3e para kitanA bhAva hai? Apako samajha AyA na? usake aMdara vaha badale kI AzA nahIM hotI na! badale kI AzA, vahA~ Asakti yAnI Asakti kahA~ hotI hai? ki jahA~ usake pAsa se kucha badale kI AzA hotI hai, vahA~ Asakti hotI hai aura badale kI AzA binA ke kitane loga hoMge hindustAna meM? eka Ama kA per3a ugAte haiM na apane loga, to kyA Ama ko ugAne ke lie hI ugAte haiM? 'kisalie bhAI, Ama ke per3a ke pIche itanI saba jhaMjhaTa karate ho?' taba ve kahate haiM, 'per3a bar3A hogA na, to mere baccoM ke bacce khAe~ge aura pahale to maiM khaauuNgaa|' isalie phala kI AzA se Ama kA per3a ugAtA hai| Apako kyA lagatA hai? ki niSkAma ugAtA hai? niSkAma koI ugAtA nahIM hai?! isalie sabhI khuda kI cAkarI karane ke lie bacce bar3e karate hoMge na yA bhAkharI (roTI) ke lie! praznakartA : cAkarI karane ke lie| dAdAzrI : para abhI to bhAkharI ho jAtI hai| mujhe eka AdamI kahatA hai, 'merA beTA cAkarI nahIM krtaa|' taba maiMne kahA, 'phira bhAkharI nahIM kare to kyA karegA? aba koI laDDU bano aise ho nahIM, isalie bhAkharI kare to hala (!) A jaaegaa|' mA~ kA prema praznakartA : para zAstra meM likhA huA hai ki mA~-bApa ko khuda ke baccoM ke prati eka samAna hI prema hotA hai, vaha ThIka hai? dAdAzrI : nA, mA~-bApa koI bhagavAna nahIM ki eka samAna prema rahe ! vaisA eka samAna prema to bhagavAna rakha sakate haiN| bAkI, mA~-bApa koI bhagavAna nahIM haiM becAre, ve to mA~-bApa haiN| ve to pakSapAtI hote hI haiN| eka samAna prema to bhagavAna hI rakha sakate haiN| dUsarA koI rakha nahIM sktaa| yaha mujhe abhI eka samAna prema rahatA hai sabake uupr| bAkI, yaha to laukika prema hai| vaise hI loga 'prema-prema' gAyA karate haiN| yaha to patnI ke sAtha bhI kyA prema rahatA hogA? ye sabhI svArtha ke sage haiM aura ye mA~ hai na, vaha to moha se hI jItI hai| khada ke peTa se janmA isalie use moha utpanna hotA hai, aura gAya ko bhI moha utpanna
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________________ prema 17 hotA hai, para chaha mahIne taka usakA moha rahatA hai, aura isa madara ko to sATha varSa kA ho jAe taba bhI moha nahIM jaataa| praznakartA: para mA~ ko bAlaka para jaba prema hotA hai, taba niSkAma hI hai na? dAdAzrI : nahIM hai vaha niSkAma prema mA~ ko bAlaka para niSkAma prema nahIM hotaa| vaha to lar3akA phira bar3I umra kA ho taba kahatA hai ki, 'Apa to mere bApa kI patnI ho', to? usa ghar3I patA calegA ki niSkAma thA yA nahIM? jaba lar3akA kahe ki 'Apa mere phAdara kI vAipha ho|' usa dina mA~ kA moha utara jAtA hai ki, 'tU mu~ha mata dikhaanaa|' aba phAdara kI vAipha matalaba mA~ nahIM? taba mA~ kahatI hai, 'para aisA bolA kyoM?" use bhI mIThA caahie| saba moha hI hai| isalie vaha prema bhI niSkAma nahIM hai| vaha to moha kI Asakti hai| jahA~ moha hotA hai aura Asakti hotI hai, vahA~ niSkAmatA hotI nhiiN| niSkAma moha to Asakti rahita hotA hai| praznakartA: vaha ApakI bAta saca hai| vaha to bAlaka bar3A hotA hai phira vaisI Asakti bar3hatI hai| para jaba bAlaka chaha mahIne kA choTA ho taba ? dAdAzrI : usa ghar3I bhI Asakti hI hai| pUre dina Asakti hI hai| jagat Asakti se hI baMdhA huA hai| jagat meM prema nahIM ho sakatA kisI jagaha para / praznakartA: vaisA bApa ko hotA hai aisA mAna sakatA hU~, para 'mA~' kA dimAg2a meM utaratA nahIM ThIka se abhI mujhe / dAdAzrI : aisA hai na, bApa svArthI hotA hai, jaba ki mA~ baccoM kI ora svArthI nahIM hotii| yAnI itanA pharka hotA hai| mA~ ko kyA rahatA hai? use basa Asakti hI, moha !! dUsarA saba bhUla jAtI hai, bhAna bhUla jAtI hai| usameM niSkAma eka kSaNabhara ko bhI nahIM ho sktii| niSkAma to ho 18 prema nahIM sakatA manuSya / niSkAma to 'jJAnI' sivAya koI ho nahIM sktaa| aura ye jo saba niSkAma hokara phirate haiM na, ve duniyA kA lAbha uThAte haiN| niSkAma kA artha to honA cAhie na? DA~Tane se patA cale praznakartA : to mAtA-pitA kA prema jo hai, vaha kaisA kahalAtA hai? dAdAzrI : mAtA-pitA ko eka dina gAliyA~ de na to phira ve AmanesAmane ho jaaeN| yaha 'varlDalI' prema to TikatA hI nahIM na! pA~ca varSoM meM, dasa varSoM meM bhI ur3a jAtA hai vApisa kisI dina / sAmane prema honA cAhie, car3he - utare nahIM aisA prema honA caahie| phira bhI bacce para bApa kisI samaya jo gussA karatA hai, usameM hiMsakabhAva nahIM hotaa| praznakartA: vaha asala meM to prema hai? dAdAzrI : vaha prema hai hI nhiiN| prema ho to gussA nahIM hotA / para hiMsakabhAva nahIM hai usake piiche| isalie vaha krodha nahIM khlaataa| krodha hiMsakabhAva sahita hotA hai| vyavahAra meM mA~ kA prema utkRSTa saccA prema to kisI bhI saMyogoM meM TUTanA nahIM cAhie / isalie prema usakA nAma kahalAtA hai ki TUTe nhiiN| yaha to prema kI kasauTI hai| phira bhI thor3A-bahuta prema hai, vaha mAtA kA prema hai| praznakartA: Apane aisA kahA ki mA~ kA prema ho sakatA hai, bApa ko nahIM hotaa| to inheM burA nahIM lagegA? dAdAzrI : phira bhI mA~ kA prema hai, usakA vizvAsa hotA hai| mA~ bacce ko dekhe, taba khush| isakA kAraNa kyA hai? ki bacce ne apane ghara meM hI, apane zarIra meM hI nau mahIne mukAma kiyA thaa| isalie mA~ ko aisA
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________________ 20 prema dAdAzrI : zuddha prema kisI bhI jagaha hotA hI nahIM duniyA meN| yaha sArA moha ke lie hI rote haiN| svArtha ke bagaira to yaha duniyA hai hI nhiiN| aura svArtha hai, vahA~ moha hai| mA~ ke sAtha bhI svArtha hai| loga aisA samajhate haiM ki mA~ ke sAtha zuddha prema thaa| para svArtha ke binA to mA~ bhI nhiiN| para vaha limiTeDa svArtha hai isIlie prazaMsA kI gaI hai usakI, kama se kamalimiTeDa svArtha hai| bAkI, vaha bhI moha kA hI pariNAma hai| praznakartA : vaha ThIka hai| para mA~ kA prema to ni:svArtha ho sakatA hai na? lagatA hai ki mere peTa se janmA hai aura usako aisA lagatA hai ki mA~ ke peTa se maiM janmA haiN| itanI adhika ekatA ho gaI hai| mA~ ne jo khAyA usase hI usakA khUna banatA hai| isalie yaha ekatA kA prema hai eka prakAra kaa| phira bhI vAstava meM riyalI spIkiMga prema nahIM hai yh| rileTivalI spIkiMga prema hai| isalie sirpha prema kisI jagaha ho to mA~ ke sAtha hotA hai| vahA~ prema jaisI koI nizAnI dikhatI hai| parantu vaha bhI paudgalika prema hai aura vaha prema hai vaha bhI kitane bhAga meM? ki jaba madara ko acchI lage aisI cIz2a ho, usa para beTe dhAvA boleM to donoM lar3ate haiM, taba prema phrekcara ho jAtA hai| beTA alaga rahane calA jAtA hai| kahegA, 'mA~, tere sAtha nahIM rAsa aaegaa|' yaha rileTiva sagAI hai, riyala sagAI nahIM hai| saccA prema ho na to bApa mara gayA na, usake sAtha beTA bIsa varSa kA ho vaha bhI sAtha meM jaae| usakA nAma prema kahalAtA hai| aise jAtA hai sahI eka bhI lar3akA?! praznakartA : koI gayA nhiiN| dAdAzrI : apavAda nahIM hai koI? bApa mara jAe taba lar3ake ko 'mere bApU mara gae', usakA itanA adhika asara ho aura vaha bhI usake sAtha mara jAne ko taiyAra ho jaae| aisI yahA~ muMbaI meM ghaTanA huI hai? dAdAzrI : hotA hI hai ni:svArtha kAphI kucha aMzoM meN| isIlie to mA~ ke prema ko prema kahA hai| praznakartA : phira bhI Apa use 'moha hai' aisA kahate haiM? dAdAzrI : aisA hai, koI kahegA, 'bhAI, prema jaisI vastu isa duniyA meM nahIM hai?' to pramANa ke taura para dikhAnA ho to mA~ kA prema, vaha prema hai| aisA dikhA sakate hai ki yahA~ kucha prema hai| bAkI, dUsarI bAta meM koI mAla nhiiN| beTe para mA~ kA prema hotA hai aura abhI dasare saba prema se adhika yaha prema prazaMsA karane jaisA hai| kyoMki usa prema meM balidAna hai| praznakartA : naa| dAdAzrI : taba zamazAna meM kyA karate haiM vahA~ jAkara phira? praznakartA : jalA dete haiN| dAdAzrI : aisA? phira Akara khAtA nahIM hogA, nahIM? khAtA hai na! to yaha aisA hai, aupacArikatA hai, saba jAnate haiM ki yaha rileTiva sagAI hai| gayA vaha to gyaa| phira ghara Akara caina se khAte haiN| praznakartA : to phira koI vyakti mara jAe to hama usake prati moha ke kAraNa rote haiM yA zuddha prema hotA hai, isalie rote haiM? praznakartA : madara kI jo isa prakAra kI haqIqata hai, to pitAjI kA kyA bhAga hotA hai, aisA prema..... dAdAzrI : pitAjI kA matalabavAlA prem| merA nAma rauzana kare vaisA hai, khegaa| sirpha eka mA~ kA hI thoDA-sA prema, vaha bhI thoDA-sA hI vApisa / vaha bhI mana meM hotA hai ki bar3A hogA, merI cAkarI karegA aura zrAddha karegA, taba bhI bahuta ho gayA meraa| eka lAlaca hai, kucha bhI usake pIche lAlaca hai vahA~ prema nahIM hai| prema vaha vastu hI alaga hai| abhI Apa hamArA prema dekha rahe ho, para yadi samajha Ae to| isa duniyA meM koI cIz2a mujhe nahIM cAhie, Apa lAkhoM DaoNlara do yA lAkhoM pAunDa do! pUre jagat kA sonA do to mere kAma kA nahIM hai| jagat kI strI saMbaMdhI mujhe vicAra
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________________ 22 nahIM aataa| maiM isa zarIra se alaga rahatA hU~, par3osI kI taraha rahatA huuN| isa zarIra se alaga, par3osI-'pharsTa nebr'| prema samAyA normeliTI meM mA~ vaha mAtA kA svarUpa hai| hama mAtAjI mAnate haiM na, vaha mA~ kA svarUpa hai| mA~ kA prema saccA hai| para vaha prAkRta prema hai aura dUsarA, bhagavAna meM aisA prema hotA hai| yahA~ jise bhagavAna kahate haiM, vahA~ hameM patA lagAnA caahie| vahA~ ulTA karo, ulTA bolo taba bhI prema karate haiM aura bahuta phUla caDhAe~ taba bhI vaisA hI prema karate haiN| vaha ghaTatA nahIM, bar3hatA nahIM, aisA prema hotA hai| isalie use prema kahA jAtA hai, aura vaha prema svarUpa, vahI paramAtma svarUpa hai| bAkI, jagat ne prema dekhA hI nhiiN| bhagavAna mahAvIra ke jAne ke bAda prema zabda dekhA hI nhiiN| saba Asakti hai| isa saMsAra meM prema zabda kA upayoga hotA hai vaha to Asakti ke lie upayoga karate haiN| prema yadi usake levala meM ho, normeliTI meM ho taba taka vaha prema kahalAtA hai| aura normeliTI chor3e taba vaha prema phira Asakti kahalAtA hai| madara kA prema use prema kahate z2arUra hai para vaha normeliTI chUTa jAtI hai, isIlie Asakti kahalAtA hai| bAkI, prema vaha paramAtma svarUpa hai| naoNrmala prema, vaha paramAtma svarUpa hai| pUre hote rahate haiN| baira baMdhe hue hote haiN| yadi prema kA jagat hotA taba to sAre dina hI usake pAsa se uThanA acchA nahIM lgtaa| lAkha rupaye kI kamAI ho taba bhI kahegA, rahane do na! yaha to kamAI na ho taba bhI bAhara calA jAtA hai muA! kyoM bAhara calA jAtA hai? ghara meM pasaMda nahIM hai, caina par3atA nahIM! pati? nahIM, kampeniyana ye to saba roMga bilIfa haiN| 'maiM caMdUbhAI hU~', vaha roMga bilIfa hai| phira ghara para jAe~, taba hama kaheM, 'yaha kauna hai?' taba ve kahate haiM. 'nahIM pahacAne? isa strI kA maiM pati huuN|' oho bar3e pati Ae! mAno pati kA pati hI nA ho aisI bAta karatA hai na? pati kA pati koI nahIM hotA? to phira UparavAle pati ke hama patnI hae aura apanI patnI ye hii| ye kyA dhAMdhalI meM par3eM?! pati hI kisalie baneM? hamArA kampeniyana hai, kheN| phira kyA harja hai? praznakartA : dAdA yaha bahuta morDana bhASA kA upayoga kiyaa| guru-ziSya kA prema zuddha prema se sabhI daravAje khulate haiN| guru ke sAtha ke prema se kyA nahIM milatA? sacce guru aura ziSya ke bIca to prema kA AMkar3A itanA suMdara hotA hai ki guru jo bole vaha use bahuta pasaMda AtA hai| aisA to prema kA AMkar3A hotA hai| para abhI to ina donoM meM bhI jhagar3e calA karate haiN| eka jagaha para to ziSya aura guru mahArAja, donoM mArapITa kara rahe the| to mujhe eka jane ne kahA ki, 'calie uupr|' maiMne kahA, 'nahIM dekhanA cAhie, are mue, burA dikhatA hai| vaha to saba calatA rahatA hai| jagat aisA hI hai| sAsa-bahU nahIM lar3ate? vaisA hI yaha bhI! baira baMdhe hue haiM, ve baira dAdAzrI: taba kyA?! Tasala kama ho jAe na! hA~, eka rUma meM kampeniyana aura ve, donoM rahate ho, to vaha eka vyakti cAya banAe aura dUsarA pIe, taba dUsarA usake lie usakA dUsarA kAma kara de| aise karake kampeniyana calatA rhe| praznakartA : kampeniyana meM Asakti hotI hai yA nahIM? dAdAzrI : usameM bhI Asakti hotI hai| para vaha Asakti isake jaisI nhiiN| yaha to zabda hI aise haiM AsaktivAle! ye zabda gAr3ha AsaktivAle haiN| dhaNIpana aura dhaNiyANI' ina zabdoM meM hI itanI gAr3ha Asakti hai ki kampeniyana kahe to Asakti kama ho jAtI hai| nahIM hai merI... eka vyakti the, unakI vAipha bIsa varSa pahale mara gaI thii| to dUsare
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________________ prema 23 eka vyakti ne mujhe kahA ki, 'ina cAcA ko maiM rulAU~?' maiMne kahA, 'kisa taraha rulAoge? itanI umara meM to nahIM roeNge|' taba ve kahate haiM, 'dekho, ve kaise sensiTiva haiM !' phira vaha bhatIjA bolA, 'kyA cAcA cAcI kI to bAta hI mata puucho| kyA unakA svabhAva!' aisA vaha bola rahA thA, taba ve cAcA vAstava meM ro par3e ! are, kaise ye ghanacakkara! sATha varSa kI umara meM abhI patnI ke lie ronA AtA hai?! ye to kisa taraha ke ghanacakkara ho ? yaha prajA to vahA~ sinemA meM bhI rotI hai na? usameM koI mara gayA ho to dekhanAvAlA bhI ro uThatA hai| praznakartA : to vaha Asakti chUTatI kyoM nahIM? dAdAzrI : vaha to nahIM chuutttii| 'merI, merI' karake kiyA hai na vaha 'nahIM hai merI, nahIM hai merI' usakA jApa kareM taba baMda ho jaae| vaha to jo peca ghumAe haiM, to ve chor3ane hI par3eMge na ! matabheda bar3he, vaise prema bar3he? na ? matabheda hotA hai yA nahIM patnI ke sAtha? vAipha ke sAtha matabheda ? praznakartA: matabheda ke binA to hasabenDa- vAipha kahalAte hI nahIM dAdAzrI : haiM, aisA ! aisA hai, aisA niyama hogA? kitAba meM aisA niyama likhA hogA ki matabheda par3e tabhI hasabenDa aura vAipha kahalAte haiM? thoDeM bahuta matabheda hote haiM yA nahIM? praznakartA: haaN| dAdAzrI : to phira hasabenDa aura vAipha kama hotA jAtA hai, nahIM? praznakartA: prema bar3hatA jAtA hai| dAdAzrI : prema bar3hatA jAe vaise-vaise matabheda kama hote jAte haiM, nahIM? prema praznakartA: jitane matabheda bar3hate jAe~, jitane jhagar3e bar3hate jAe~, utanA prema bar3hatA jAtA hai| 24 dAdAzrI : haaN| vaha prema nahIM bar3hatA, vaha Asakti bar3hatI hai| prema to jagat ne dekhA hI nhiiN| kabhI bhI prema zabda dekhA hI nahIM jagat / ye to AsaktiyA~ haiM sabhI prema kA svarUpa hI alaga prakAra kA hai| yaha Apa mere sAtha bAta kara rahe ho na, yaha abhI Apa prema dekha sakate ho, Apa mujhe jhir3ako, taba bhI Apake Upara prema rakhU~gA / taba Apako lagegA ki ohoho ! premasvarUpa aise hote haiN| bAta sunane meM phAyadA hai kucha yaha ? praznakartA pUrApUrA phAyadA hai| dAdAzrI : hA~, sAvadhAna ho jaanaa| nahIM to mUrkha bana gae smjho| aura prema hotA hogA? ApameM hai prema, ki usameM ho? apane meM prema ho to sAmanevAle meM ho| apane meM prema nahIM hai, aura sAmanevAle meM prema DhUMDhate haiM hama ki 'ApameM prema nahIM dikhatA?' mue, prema DhUMDhatA hai? vaha premI nahIM hai! yaha to prema DhUMDhatA hai? ! sAvadhAna ho jA, abhI prema hotA hogA? jo jisake zikaMje meM AtA hai use bhogatA hai, lUTabAjI karatA hai| isameM prema kahA~ rahA? pati aura patnI ke prema meM pati yadi kamAkara na lAe to prema kA patA cala jaae| bIvI kyA kahegI, 'kyA cUlhe meM maiM tumhArA pA~va rakhU~ ?' pati kamAtA na ho to bIvI aisA na bole? usa ghar3I usakA prema kahA~ gayA? prema hotA hogA isa jagat meM? yaha to Asakti hai / yadi yaha khAnepIne kA saba ho to vaha prema (!) dikhatA hai aura pati bhI yadi bAhara kahIM pha~sA huA ho to vaha kahegI ki, 'Apa aisA karoge to maiM calI jaauuNgii|' yAnI patnI Upara se pati ko jhir3akatI hai| vaha to bicArA gunahagAra hai, isalie narama par3a jAtA hai aura isameM kyA prema karane jaisA hai phira ? yaha to jaise-taise karake gAr3I dhakelanI hai| khAne-pIne kA bIvI banA de aura hama paisA kamAkara lAe~ haiN| isa taraha jaise-taise karake gAr3I Age calI miyA~- bIbI kI !
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________________ 26 Asakti vahA~ riekzana hI praznakartA : parantu bahuta bAra hameM dveSa nahIM karanA ho taba bhI dveSa ho jAtA hai, usakA kyA kAraNa? dAdAzrI : kisake sAtha? praznakartA : kabhI pati ke sAtha aisA ho to? dAdAzrI : vaha dveSa nahIM khlaataa| hamezA hI jo Asakti kA prema hai na, vaha riekzanarI hai| isIlie yadi cir3heM taba ye vApisa ulTe calate haiN| ulTe cale isalie phira thor3e samaya alaga rahe ki vApisa prema car3hatA hai| aura vApisa prema lage, taba TakarAva hotA hai| aura isalie phira vApisa prema bar3hatA hai| jaba bahuta adhika prema ho vahA~ gar3abar3a hotI hai| isalie jahA~ koI bhI gar3abar3a calA karatI ho na, vahA~ bhItara prema hai ina logoM ko! vaha prema ho to hI bakher3A hotA hai| pUrva bhava kA prema hai to bakher3A hotA hai| bahuta adhika prema hai| nahIM to bakher3A ho hI nahIM na! isa bakher3e kA svarUpa hI yaha hai| use loga kyA kahate haiM? 'TakarAva hone se to hamArA prema hotA hai|' taba vaha bAta saca hai pr| vahA~ Asakti TakarAva se hI haI hai| jahA~ TakarAva kama hai, vahA~ Asakti nahIM hotii| jisa ghara meM strI-puruSa ke bIca TakarAva kama hotA hai vahA~ Asakti kama hai, aisA mAna lenaa| samajha meM Ae aisI bAta hai? praznakartA : haaN| aura bahuta Asakti ho vahA~ anadekhAI bhI adhika hotI hai na? dAdAzrI : vaha to Asakti meM se hI sabhI jhamelA khar3A hotA hai| jisa ghara ke donoM jane Amane-sAmane bahuta lar3ate hoM na, to hama samajha jAe~ ki yahA~ Asakti adhika hai| itanA samajha jaanaa| isalie phira hama nAma kyA rakhate haiM? 'lar3ate haiM aisA nahIM khte| tamAcA mAre Amane-sAmane, to bhI hama use 'lar3ate haiM' aisA nahIM khte| hama use totAmastI kahate haiN| totA aise coMca mAratA hai, (vo aise coMca mAratA hai) taba dUsarA totA aise coMca mAratA hai, para aMta meM khUna nahIM nikaalte| hA~, vaha totAmastI ! Apane nahIM dekhI hai totAmastI? aba aisI saccI bAta suneM taba hameM apanI bhUloM para aura apanI mUrkhatA para ha~sanA AtA hai| saccI bAta sune taba manuSya ko vairAga AtA hai ki hamane aisI bhUleM kI?! are, bhUleM hI nahIM, para mAra bhI bahuta khAI! doSa, AkSepa vahA~ prema kahA~ se? jagat Asakti ko prema mAnakara ulajhatA hai| strI ko pati ke sAtha kAma aura pati ko strI ke sAtha kAma, ye saba kAma se hI khaDA huA hai| kAma nahIM ho to aMdara sabhI cillAte haiM, hallA karate haiN| saMsAra meM eka minaTa bhI apanA koI huA hI nahIM hai| apanA koI hotA nahIM hai| vaha to jaba aTake taba patA cle| eka ghaMTA beTe ko hama DaoNTa taba patA cale ki beTA apanA hai yA parAyA hai? dAvA dAyara karane ke lie bhI taiyAra ho jAtA hai| taba bApa bhI kyA kahatA hai? 'merI apanI kamAI hai| tujhe eka pAI nahIM dUMgA' khegaa| taba beTA kahegA. 'maiM Apako mAra-Thokakara lNgaa|' isameM potApaNuM (maiM hU~ aura merA hai-aisA AropaNa/merApana) hotA hogA? eka jJAnI puruSa hI apane hote haiN| bAkI. isameM prema jaisI vasta hI nahIM hai| isa saMsAra meM prema mata ddhuuNddhnaa| kisI jagaha para prema hotA nhiiN| prema to jJAnI puruSa ke pAsa hotA hai| dUsare sabhI jagaha to prema utara jAtA hai aura phira lar3AI-jhagar3e hote haiM bAda meN| lar3AI-jhagar3e hote haiM yA nahIM hote? vaha prema nahIM khlaataa| vaha Asakti hai saarii| use apane jagat ke loga prema kahate haiN| ulTA hI bolanA vaha dhaMdhA! prema kA pariNAma, jhagar3e nahIM hote| prema usIkA nAma ki kisIkA doSa na dikhe| prema meM kabhI bhI sArI z2indagI meM beTe kA doSa nahIM dikhatA, patnI kA doSa nahIM dikhatA, usakA nAma prema kahalAtA hai| prema meM doSa dikhate hI nahIM use aura yaha to logoM ko kitane doSa dikhate haiM? 'tU aisI aura
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________________ tU vaisI!' are, prema kahatA thA na? kahA~ gayA prema? matalaba, nahIM hai yaha prem| jagata meM kahIM prema hotA hogA? prema kA eka bAla jagat ne dekhA nahIM hai| yaha to Asakti hai| aura jahA~ Asakti ho, vahA~ AkSepa hue bagaira rahate hI nhiiN| vaha Asakti kA svabhAva hai| Asakti ho isalie AkSepa huA hI karate haiM na ki, 'Apa aise ho aura Apa vaise ho|''aap aise aura ta aisI' aisA nahIM bolate, nahIM? Apake gA~va meM vahA~ nahIM bolate yA bolate haiM? bolate haiM! usa Asakti ke kaarnn| para jahA~ prema hai, vahA~ doSa hI nahIM dikhate haiN| saMsAra meM ina jhagar3oM ke kAraNa hI Asakti hotI hai| isa saMsAra meM jhagar3A to Asakti kA viTAmina hai| jhagar3A nahIM ho taba to vItarAga huA jaae| prema to vItarAgoM kA hI 28 TheTha bhagavAna taka hotA hai, una logoM ke pAsa prema kA lAisansa hotA hai| ve prema se hI logoM ko sukhI kara dete haiN| ve prema se hI bAMdhate haiM vApisa. chUTa nahIM skte| vaha TheTha jJAnI puruSa ke pAsa, TheTha tIrthaMkara taka sabhI premavAle, alaukika prema ! jisameM laukika nAma mAtra ko bhI nahIM hotaa| ati paricaya se avajJA jahA~ bahuta prema Ae, vahIM arucI hotI hai, vaha mAnava svabhAva hai| jisake sAtha prema ho, aura bImAra hoM taba usake sAtha hI Uba hotI hai| vaha acchA nahIM lagatA apane ko| 'Apa jAo yahA~ se, dUra baiTho', kahanA par3atA hai aura pati ke sAtha prema kI AzA rakhanI hI nahIM aura ve apane pAsa prema kI AzA rakhe to vaha mUrakha hai| yaha to hameM kAma se kAma! jaise hoTalavAle ke vahA~ ghara basAne jAte haiM hama? cAya pIne ke lie jAte haiM to paise dekara vApisa! isa taraha kAma se kAma kara lenA hai hmeN| prema kI laganI meM nibhAe sabhI bhUleM gharavAloM ke sAtha 'naphA huA' kaba kahalAtA hai ki gharavAloM ko apane Upara prema aae| apane binA acchA nahIM lage, ki kaba Ae~, kaba Ae~ aisA lge| loga zAdI karate haiM para prema nahIM, yaha to mAtra viSaya Asakti hai| prema ho to cAhe jitanA eka dUsare meM virodhAbhAsa Ae phira bhI prema nahIM jaae| jahA~ prema nahIM ho vaha Asakti kahalAtA hai| Asakti matalaba saMDAsa! prema to pahale hotA thA ki pati paradeza gayA ho na, vaha vApisa na Ae to pUrI z2indagI usameM hI citta rahatA, dUsarA koI yAda hI nahIM aataa| Aja to do sAla pati na Ae to dUsarA pati kara le! ise prema kaise kahA jAe? yaha to saMDAsa hai, jaise saMDAsa badalate haiM, vaisA ! jo galana hai, use saMDAsa kahate haiN| prema meM to arpaNatA hotI hai! prema matalaba laganI lage vh| aura vaha sAre dina yAda AtA rhe| zAdI do rUpa meM pariNamita hotI hai, kisI samaya AbAdI meM jAtI hai to kisI samaya barabAdI meM jAtI hai| prema bahuta chalake to vApisa baiTha jAtA hai| jo chalakatA hai, vaha Asakti hai| isalie jahA~ chalake, usase dUra rhnaa| ye laDakiyA~ pati pAsa karatI haiM, aise dekhakara ke pAsa karatI haiM, phira jhagar3atI nahIM hogI? jhagar3atI hai? taba vaha prema kahalAe hI nahIM na ! prema to kAyama kA hI hotA hai| jaba dekho taba vahI prema, vaisA hI dikhatA hai| usakA nAma prema kahalAtA hai, aura vahA~ AzvAsana liyA jAtA hai| yaha to hameM prema AtA ho aura eka dina vaha ruThakara baiThI ho. taba kisa kAma kA terA prema! DAlo gaTara meM yahA~ se| mu~ha car3hAkara phiratI ho, usake prema kA kyA karanA hai? Apako kaisA lagatA hai? praznakartA : ThIka hai| dAdAzrI : kabhI bhI mu~ha na bigAr3e, vaisA prema honA caahie| vaha prema hamAre pAsa milatA hai| pati jhir3ake taba bhI prema kama-jyAdA nahIM ho, vaisA prema caahie| hIre ke Topsa lAkara deM, usa ghar3I prema bar3ha jAtA hai, vaha bhI aaskti| isalie yaha jagat Asakti se cala rahA hai| prema, vaha to jJAnI puruSa se
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________________ prema 30 laganI to AMtarika honI caahie| bAhara kA khokhA bigar3a jAe, sar3a jAe taba bhI prema utanA kA utanA hI rhe| yaha to hAtha jala gayA ho aura hama kaheM ki, 'jarA dhulavA do' to pati kahegA ki, 'nA, mujhase nahIM dekhA jAtA!' are, usa dina to hAtha sahalA rahA thA, aura Aja kyoM aisA? yaha ghRNA kaise cale? jahA~ prema hai vahA~ ghRNA nahIM aura jahA~ ghRNA hai vahA~ prema nhiiN| saMsArI prema bhI aisA honA cAhie ki jo ekadama kama na ho jAe aura ekadama bar3ha na jaae| normeliTI meM honA caahie| jJAnI kA prema to kabhI bhI kama-jyAdA nahIM hotaa| vaha prema to alaga hI hotA hai| use paramAtma prema kahate haiN| prema saba jagaha honA caahie| pUre ghara meM prema hI honA caahie| jahA~ prema hai, vahA~ bhUla nahIM nikAlatA koii| prema meM bhUla nahIM dikhtii| aura yaha prema nahIM. igoijama hai| maiM pati hU~ vaisA bhAna hai| prema usakA nAma kahalAe ki bhUla na lge| prema meM cAhe jitanI bhUla ho to nibhA letA hai| Apako samajha meM AtA hai? praznakartA : hA~ jii| dAdAzrI : isalie bhUlacUka ho ki prema ke khAtira jAne denii| isa beTe para Apako prema ho na, to bhala nahIM dikhegI beTe kii| hogA bhaI, koI harja nhiiN| prema nibhA letA hai sb| nibhA letA hai na?! bAkI, prema dekhane ko nahIM milegA isa kAla meN| jise saccA prema kahA jAtA hai na. vaha dekhane ko nahIM milegaa| are, eka vyakti mujhe kahatA hai ki 'itanA adhika merA prema hai, taba bhI vaha tiraskAra karatI hai!' maiMne kahA, 'nahIM hai yaha prem| prema ko tarachor3a koI mAre hI nhiiN|' pati DhUMDhe akkala, patnI dekhe hoziyArI taba jisa prema meM khuda apane ko hI homa de, khuda kI sephasAiDa rakhe nahIM aura khuda ko homa de, vaha prema sccaa| vaha to abhI muzkila hai baat| praznakartA : aise prema ko kyA kahA jAtA hai? ananya prema kahalAtA hai? dAdAzrI : ise prema kahA jAtA hai saMsAra meN| yaha Asakti meM nahIM AtA aura usakA phala bhI bahuta U~cA milatA hai| para vaisA khuda apane ko homa denA, vaha hotA nahIM na! yaha to khuda apanI sephasAiDa rakhakara kAma kiyA karate haiN| aura sephasAiDa na kare aisI striyA~ kitanI aura aise puruSa kitane? yaha to sinemA meM jAte samaya Asakti kI tAna meM aura tAna meN| aura Ate samaya 'akkala binA kI hai' khegaa| taba vo kahegI. 'ApameM kahA~ hoziyArI hai?' aise bAte karate-karate ghara Ate haiN| vaha hoziyArI dekha rahI hotI hai! praznakartA : yaha to aisA ina sabhI kA anubhava hai| koI bolatA nahIM, para hara eka vyakti jAnatA hai ki 'dAdA' kahate haiM, vaha bAta saccI hai| prema se hI jItA jAe praznakartA : saMsAra meM rahane ke bAda kitanI hI jimmedAriyAM pUrI karanI par3atI hai aura jimmedAriyA~ adA karanI, vaha eka dharma hai| usa dharma kA pAlana karate hue, kAraNa yA akAraNa kaTuvacana bolane par3ate haiM, to bAkI, yaha to Asakti hai saba! ghar3I meM patnI hai, vaha gale meM hAtha DAlatI hai aura cipaka jAtI hai aura phira ghar3I meM vApisa bolAcAlI ho jAtI hai| 'tUne aisA kiyA, tUne aisA kiyaa|' prema meM kabhI bhI bhUla nahIM hotii| prema meM bhUla dikhatI nhiiN| yaha to prema hI kahA~ hai? nahIM cAhie, bhAI? hameM bhala nahIM dikhe to hama samajheM ki isake sAtha prema hai hameM! vAstava meM prema hogA ina logoM ko?! matalaba ise prema kaise kahe?!
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________________ prema 31 vaha pApa yA doSa mAnA jAtA hai? ye saMsArI dharmoM kA pAlana karate samaya kar3ave vacana bolane par3ate haiM, to vaha pApa yA doSa hai? dAdAzrI: aisA hai na, kaDavA vacana boleM, usa samaya hamArA mu~ha kaisA ho jAtA hai? gulAba ke phUla jaisA, nahIM? apanA mu~ha bigar3e to samajhanA ki pApa lgaa| apanA mu~ha bigar3e aisI vANI nikalI, vahIM samajhanA ki pApa lgaa| kar3ave vacana nahIM bolte| dhIre se. AhistA se bolo| thoDe vAkya bolo, para AhistA rahakara, samajhakara kaho, prema rakho, eka dina jIta skoge| kar3ave se jIta nahIM skoge| para vaha sAmane virodha karegA aura ulTe pariNAma baaNdhegaa| vaha beTA ulTA pariNAma baaNdhegaa| abhI to choTI umra kA hU~, isalie mujhe itanA jhir3akate haiN| bar3I umra kA ho jAU~gA taba vApisa duuNgaa|' aise pariNAma aMdara bAMdhatA hai| isalie aisA mata kro| use smjhaao| eka dina prema jiitegaa| do dina meM hI usakA phala nahIM aaegaa| dasa dina, paMdraha dina, mahIne taka prema rakhA kro| dekho, usa prema kA kyA phala AtA hai, vaha to dekho! Apako pasaMda AI yaha bAta? kar3avA vacana bole to apanA mu~ha nahIM bigar3a jAtA? praznakartA : hama aneka bAra samajhAe~, phira bhI vaha na samajhe to kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : samajhAne kI z2arUrata hI nahIM hai| prema rkho| phira bhI hama usa samajhAe~ dhIre se| apane par3osI ko bhI aisA kar3avA vacana bolate haiM hama? praznakartA : para vaisA dhIraja honA cAhie na? dAdAzrI : abhI pahAr3I para se patthara gire aura vaha Apake sira para par3e to Apa Upara dekha lete ho aura phira kisa para krodha karate ho? usa ghar3I zAMta rahate ho na? koI dikhatA nahIM isalie hama samajhate haiM ki yaha kisIne nahIM ddaalaa| yAnI apane Apa girA hai| isalie usakA hama gunAha nahIM maante| taba vaha bhI apane Apa hI giratA hai| vaha to DAlanevAlA to vyakti dikhatA hai itanA hii| bAkI apane Apa hI giratA hai| Apake hI hisAba cuka rahe haiM sb| isa duniyA meM saba hisAba cuka rahe haiN| naye hisAba baMdha rahe haiM aura purAne hisAba cuka rahe haiN| samajha meM AyA na? isalie sIdhA bolanA beTe ke sAtha, acchI bhASA bolnaa| prema se pAlanA-posanA paudhe ko praznakartA : vyavahAra meM koI galata kara rahA ho to use TokanA par3atA hai, to usase use dukha hotA hai| to vaha kisa taraha usakA nikAla kareM? dAdAzrI : Tokane meM harja nahIM hai, para hameM AnA cAhie na! kahanA AnA cAhie na, kyA? praznakartA : kisa taraha? dAdAzrI : bacce se kaheM, 'tujhameM akkala nahIM, gadhA hai|' aisA boleM to phira kyA hogA, vhaaN| use bhI ahaMkAra hotA hai yA nahIM? Apako hI ApakA bosa kahe ki 'ApameM akkala nahIM, gadhe ho|' aisA kahe to kyA ho? nahIM kahate aisaa| TokanA AnA caahie| praznakartA : kisa taraha TokanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : use baitthaao| phira kaho, hama hindustAna ke loga, Arya prajA apanI, hama koI anAr3I nahIM aura apane se aisA nahIM honA caahie| aisA-vaisA saba samajhAe~ aura prema se kaheM taba rAste para aaegaa| nahIM to Apa to mAra, lephTa enDa rAiTa, lephTa enDa rAiTa le lo to calatA hogA? pariNAma prema se kie binA AtA nhiiN| eka paudhA bhI pAlanAposakara bar3A karanA ho to bhI prema se karate ho, to bahuta acchA ugatA hai| para vaise hI pAnI DAlo na, aura cIkho-cillAo to kucha nahIM hotaa| eka paudhA bar3A karanA ho to! Apa kahate ho ki ohoho, bahuta acchA huA paudhaa| to use acchA lagatA hai! vaha bhI acche phUla detA hai bar3ebar3e!! to phira ye manuSya ko to kitanA adhika asara hotA hogA?!
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________________ prema 33 kahane kahane kA tarIkA praznakartA para mujhe kyA karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : apanA bolA huA nahIM phalatA ho to hameM cupa ho jAnA caahie| hama mUrakha haiM, hameM bolanA nahIM AtA, isalie baMda ho jAnA caahie| apanA bolA huA phalatA nahIM aura ulTA apanA mana bigar3atA hai, apanA avatAra bigar3atA hai| aisA kauna kare phira? isalie eka vyakti sudhArA jA sake, aisA yaha kAla nahIM hai| vahI bigar3A huA hai, sAmanevAle ko kyA sudhAregA phira ? vahI vIkanesa kA putalA ho, vaha sAmanevAle ko kyA sudhAregA phira ? ! usake lie to balavAnapana cAhie / isalie prema kI hI z2arUrata hai| prema kA pAvara sAmanevAle kA ahaMkAra khar3A hI nahIM hotaa| sattAvAlI AvAz2a hamArI nahIM hotii| isalie sattA nahIM honI caahie| beTe ko Apa kaho na, to sattAvAlI AvAz2a nahIM honI caahie| praznakartA : hA~, Apane kahA thA ki koI apane lie daravAz2e baMda kara de, usase pahale hI hameM ruka jAnA cAhie / dAdAzrI : hA~, sahI bAta hai| ve daravAz2e baMda kara de, usase pahale hameM ruka jAnA caahie| to use baMda kara dene par3e, taba taka apanI mUrkhatA kahalAtI hai, kyA? aisA nahIM honA cAhie, aura sattAvAlI AvAz2a to kabhI bhI merI nikalI hI nhiiN| isalie sattAvAlI AvAz2a nahIM honI caahie| choTA ho taba taka sattAvAlI AvAz2a dikhAnI par3atI hai| cupa baiTha jA / taba bhI maiM to prema hI dikhalAtA huuN| maiM to prema se hI basa karanA cAhatA huuN| praznakartA: prema meM jitanA pAvara hai, utanA sattA meM nahIM na? ! dAdAzrI : naa| para Apako prema utpanna hotA nahIM na? jaba taka vaha kacarA nikala na jAe! kacarA saba nikAlatI hai yA nahIM nikAlatI ? 34 prema kaise acche hArTavAle ! jo hArTilI hote haiM na unake sAtha dakhala nahIM karanA / tujhe usake sAtha acchI taraha rahanA caahie| buddhivAle ke sAtha dakhala karanA, karanA ho to / paudhA boyA ho to, Apako use DA~Tate nahIM rahanA cAhie ki dekha tU Ter3hA mata honA, phUla bar3e laanaa| hameM use khAda aura pAnI dete rahanA hai| yadi gulAba kA paudhA itanA saba kAma karatA hai, ye bacce to manuSya haiM aura mA~-bApa pITate bhI haiM, mArate bhI hai| hamezA prema se hI sudharatI hai duniyA / usake alAvA dUsarA koI upAya hI nahIM hai usake lie| yadi dhAka se sudharatA ho na, to yaha gavarnamenTa DemokresI... sarakAra lokataMtra ur3A de aura jo koI gunAha kare, use jela meM DAla de aura phAMsI kara de| prema se hI sudharatA hai jagat / praznakartA: kaIbAra sAmanevAlA vyakti, hama prema karate haiM phira bhI samajha nahIM sktaa| dAdAzrI : phira hameM kyA karanA cAhie vahA~ ? sIMga mAreM? praznakartA: patA nahIM, kyA kareM phira? dAdAzrI : nA, sIMga mArate haiM phira phira hama bhI sIMga mAreM taba vaha bhI sIMga mAratA hai, phira zurU ldd'aaii| jIvana klezita ho jAtA hai phira / praznakartA: to aise saMyoga meM hameM kisa taraha samatA rakhanI cAhie? aisA to hameM ho jAtA hai to vahA~ para kisa taraha rahanA cAhie? samajha meM nahIM AtA ki taba kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : kyA ho jAe to? praznakartA: hama prema rakheM aura sAmanevAlA vyakti nahIM samajhe, apanA prema samajhe nahIM, to hameM kyA karanA phira ? dAdAzrI : kyA karanA hai? zAMta rahanA hai hameM zAMta rahanA, dUsarA kyA kareM hama use? kyA mAreM use?
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________________ prema 35 praznakartA : para hama usa kakSA meM nahIM pahu~ce ki zAMta raha ske| dAdAzrI : to phira kUdeM hama usa ghar3I ! dUsarA kyA karanA ? pulisavAlA phaTakAre taba kyoM zAMta rahate ho? praznakartA : pulisavAle kI oNthoriTI hai, usakI sattA hai| dAdAzrI : to hameM use oNthorAiz2a (adhikRta) kara denA caahie| pulisavAle ke sAmane sIdhe rahate haiM aura yahA~ para sIdhA nahIM raha sakate ! bAlaka haiM, prema bhUkhe Aja ke baccoM ko bAhara jAnA acchA nahIM lage aisA kara DAlo, ki ghara meM apanA prema, prema aura prema hI dikhe| phira apane saMskAra caleM / hameM yadi sudhAranA ho to sabz2I sudhAranI ( sApha karanI, kATanI ) para baccoM ko nahIM sudhAranA hai! ina logoM ko sabz2I sudhAranI AtI hai| sabz2I sudhAranI nahIM AtI? prema, aisA barasAo aura Apa use eka capata mAro to vaha rone lagegA, usakA kyA kAraNa hai? use lagA isalie! nA, use lagane kA dukha nahIM hai| usakA apamAna kiyA, usakA use dukha hai| prema se hI vaza ho jAte haiM isa jagat ko sudhArane kA rAstA hI prema hai| jagat jise prema kahatA hai vaha prema nahIM hai, vaha to Asakti hai| isa bebI para prema karo, para vaha pyAlA phor3e to prema rahegA? taba to cir3hate ho| isalie vaha Asakti hai| prema se hI sudhare jagat aura prema se hI sudharate haiN| yaha saba sudhAranA ho na, to prema se sudharatA hai| ina sabako maiM sudhAratA hU~ na, vaha prema se sudhAratA huuN| yaha hama 36 prema prema se hI kahate haiM na ! prema se kahate haiM, isalie bAta bigar3atI nahIM aura sahaja dveSa se kaheM ki vaha bAta bigar3a jAtI hai| dUdha meM dahI par3A na ho aura vaise hI z2arA havA laga gaI, taba bhI usa dUdha kA dahI bana jAtA hai| isalie prema se sabakucha bola sakate haiN| jo premavAlA manuSya hai na, vaha sabakucha bola sakatA hai| yAnI hama kyA kahanA cAhate haiM? premasvarUpa ho jAo to yaha jagat ApakA hI hai| jahA~ baira ho, vahA~ baira meM se dhIredhIre premasvarUpa kara ddaalo| baira se yaha jagat itanA adhika rapha dikhatA hai| dekho na yahA~ premasvarUpa, kisIko jarA bhI burA lagatA nahIM aura kaisA AnaMda sabhI karate haiM ! kadara mA~ge vahA~ prema kaisA? bAkI, prema dekhane ko nahIM milegA isa kAla meN| jise saccA prema kahA jAtA hai na, vaha dekhane ko hI nahIM milegaa| are eka vyakti mujhe kahatA hai, 'itanA adhika merA prema hai, taba bhI ye tiraskAra karate haiN|' maiMne kahA, 'nahIM hai yaha prema prema kA tiraskAra koI karatA hI nhiiN|' praznakartA: Apa jisa prema kI bAta karate haiM, usameM prema kI apekSAe~ hotI haiM kyA? dAdAzrI : apekSA ? prema meM apekSA nahIM hotii| dArU pItA ho usa para bhI prema ho aura dArU nahIM pItA ho usa para bhI prema hotA hai| prema meM apekSA nahIM hotii| prema sApekSa nahIM hotA / praznakartA: para hara eka manuSya ko, mere lie do zabda acche boleM, aisI kadara kI hamezA icchA hotI hai| kisI ko gAlI sahana karanA acchA nahIM lgtaa| dAdAzrI : usakI kadara kare aisI AzA rakhe taba vaha prema hI nahIM hai| vaha saba Asakti hai| vaha saba moha hI hai| loga prema kI AzA rakhate haiM ve mUrkha haiM sAre, phUliza haiN| ApakA
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________________ 38 puNya hogA to prema se koI bulaaegaa| usa puNya se prema hai aura Apake pApa kA udaya huA taba ApakA bhAI hI kahegA 'nAlAyaka hai ta, aisA hai aura vaisA hai', cAhe jitane upakAra karo taba bhii| yaha puNya aura pApa kA pradarzana hai aura hama samajhate haiM ki ve hI aisA karate haiN| yAnI yaha to puNya bola rahA hai, isalie prema to hotA hI nhiiN| 'jJAnI puruSa' ke pAsa jAe~, taba prema jaisI vastu dikhatI hai| bAkI, prema to jagat meM kisI jagaha para nahIM hotaa| aMdara kI silaka sa~bhAlo yaha to loga bAhara kucha takarAra huI ki dostI chor3a dete haiN| pahale dostI hotI hai aura bahuta prema se rahate haiM to bAhara bhI prema aura aMdara bhI prema! aura phira jaba takarAra hoM taba bAhara bhI takarAra aura aMdara bhI tkraar| aMdara takarAra nahIM karanI hai| vaha samajhatA nahIM para aMdara prema rahane denA caahie| aMdara silaka hogI na, taba taka manuSyapanA nahIM jaaegaa| aMdara kI silaka gaI yAnI manuSyapana bhI calA jaaegaa| prema meM saMkucitatA nahIM hotI mujhameM prema hogA yA nahIM hogA? yA Apa akele hI premavAle ho? yaha Apane apanA prema saMkucita kiyA huA hai ki 'yaha vAipha aura ye bcce|' jaba ki merA prema vistArapUrvaka hai| praznakartA : prema itanA saMkucita ho sakatA hai ki eka hI pAtra ke prati sImita rahe? dAdAzrI : saMkucita ho hI nahIM, usakA nAma prem| saMkucita ho na, ki itane eriyA jitanA hI, taba to Asakti kahalAtA hai| aura vaha saMkucita kaisA? cAra bhAI hoM, aura cAroM ke tIna-tIna bacce hoM aura ikaTThe rahate hoM, to taba taka sabhI ghara meM hamArA-hamArA bolate haiN| hamAre pyAle phUTa gae' saba aisA bolate haiN| para cAroM jaba alaga ho jAe~ taba usake dUsare dina, Aja budhavAra ke dina alaga hue to guruvAra ke dina ve alaga hI bolate haiM, 'yaha ApakA aura yaha hmaaraa|' aise saMkucitatA AtI jAtI hai| isalie pUre ghara meM prema jo phailA huA thA, vaha aba ye alaga hue isalie saMkucita ho gyaa| phira pUre mohalle kI taraha, yuvaka maMDala kI taraha karanA ho to vApisa unakA prema eka ho jAtA hai| bAkI prema, vahA~ saMkucitatA nahIM hotI, vizAlatA hotI hai| rAga aura prema praznakartA : to prema aura rAga ye donoM zabda smjhaaie| dAdAzrI : rAga, vaha paudgalika vastu hai aura prema, vaha saccI vastu hai| aba prema kaisA honA cAhie? ki bar3he nahIM, ghaTe nahIM, usakA nAma prema kahalAtA hai| aura bar3he-ghaTe vaha rAga kahalAtA hai| isalie rAga meM aura prema meM pharka aisA hai ki vaha ekadama bar3ha jAe to use rAga kahate haiM, isalie pha~sA phir| yadi prema bar3ha jAe to rAga meM pariNamita hotA hai| prema utara jAe to dveSa meM pariNamita hotA hai| isalie usakA nAma prema kahalAtA hI nahIM na! vaha to AkarSaNa aura vikarSaNa hai| isalie apane loga jise prema kahate haiM, use bhagavAna AkarSaNa kahate haiN| rAga kaoNz2ez2a, anurAga iphekTa praznakartA : para dAdA, rAga hotA hai, usameM se anurAga hotA hai aura phira usameM se Asakti hotI hai| dAdAzrI : aisA hai, rAga, ve kaoNz2ez2a hai aura anurAga aura Asakti vaha iphekTa hai| vaha iphekTa baMda nahIM karane hai, kaoNz2ez2a baMda karane haiN| kyoMki yaha Asakti kaisI hai? eka bahana kahatI hai, 'Apane mujhe jJAna diyA aura mere putra ko bhI jJAna diyA hai| phira bhI mujhe usa para itanA adhika rAga hai ki ye jJAna diyA, phira bhI rAga jAtA nhiiN|' taba maiMne kahA, 'vaha rAga nahIM hai, bhn| vaha Asakti hai|' taba vaha kahatI hai, "para vaisI Asakti nahIM rahanI cAhie na? Asakti 'Apako', 'zuddhAtmA' ko nahIM hai|"
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________________ 40 huuN|' maiMne kahA, 'karanA na, tU aura terI patnI donoM karanA(!) para Asakti gaI nahIM hai, taba taka tU kisa taraha yaha niSkAma bhakti karegA?!' Asakti to itanA taka cipakatI hai, ki acche kapa-pleTa ho na to usameM bhI cipaka jAtI hai| are, yahA~ kyA jIvita hai?! eka vyApArI ke yahA~ maiM gayA thA, vaha dina meM pA~ca bAra lakar3A dekha AtA, taba use saMtoSa hotaa| ahA! aisA yaha suMdara rezama jaisA gola!! aura aise hAtha se sahalAtA rahatA, taba to use saMtoSa hotA thaa| to isa lakar3e ke Upara kitanI Asakti hai ! mAtra strI ke prati hI Asakti ho, aisA kucha nahIM hai| vikRta prema jahA~ cipakA vahA~ Asakti! Asakti se mukti kA mArga... dRSTiphera se Asakti praznakartA : manuSya ko jagat ke prati kisalie Asakti hotI hai? dAdAzrI : pUrA jagat Asakti meM hI hai| jaba taka selpha meM rahane kI zakti utpanna nahIM ho, selpha kI ramaNatA utpanna nahIM ho, taba taka Asakti meM hI sAre par3e hue haiN| sAdhu-sanyAsI-AcArya, sabhI Asakti meM hI par3e hue haiN| isa saMsAra kI, bIvI-baccoM kI Asakti chUTe to pustaka kI Asakti laga jAtI hai, nahIM to 'hama' 'hama' kI Asakti ! ve sabhI AsaktiyA~ hI haiM, jahA~ jAe vhaaN| Asakti matalaba vikRta prema jo prema kama-jyAdA ho, vaha Asakti kahalAtA hai| hamArA prema bar3hatA-ghaTatA nahIM hai| ApakA bar3hatA-ghaTatA hai, isalie vaha Asakti kahalAtA hai| kadAcita RNAnubaMdhI ke sAmane prema kama-jyAdA ho to 'hama' use 'jaaneN'| aba prema kama-jyAdA nahIM honA caahie| nahIM to prema ekadama bar3ha gayA to bhI Asakti kahalAtA hai aura kama ho gayA to bhI Asakti kahalAtA hai| aura Asakti meM hamezA rAga-dveSa huA karate haiN| jo Asakti hai use hI prema mAnate haiM, vaha lokabhASA hai na! vApisa dUsare bhI aisA hI kahate haiM, use hI prema kahate haiN| pUrI lokabhASA hI aisI ho gaI hai! praznakartA : isameM prema aura Asakti kA bheda z2arA samajhAie na ! dAdAzrI : jo vikRta prema hai usakA nAma hI aaskti| yaha jagat yAnI vikata hai, usameM jise hama prema kahate haiM, vaha vikRta prema kahalAtA hai, aura use Asakti hI kahA jAtA hai| yAnI Asakti meM hI jagat pUrA par3A huA hai| are aMdara baiThe haiM na, ve anAsakta hai aura ve saba akAmI haiM vApisa, aura ye saba kaamnaavaale| Asakti hai, vahA~ kAmanA hai| loga kahate haiM ki 'maiM niSkAma ho gayA hU~' parantu Asakti meM rahate haiM ve niSkAma nahIM khlaate| Asakti ke sAtha kAmanA hotI hI hai| kaI loga kahate haiM na, ki 'maiM niSkAma bhakti karatA praznakartA : Asakti kA sUkSma svarUpa Apane smjhaayaa| aba usa Asakti se mukti kaise mile? dAdAzrI : 'maiM anAsakta hU~', aisA 'use' bhAna ho to mukti mila jaae| Asakti nahIM nikAlanI hai, 'anAsakta hU~' vaha bhAna karanA hai| bAkI, Asakti jAtI nahIM hai| aba Apa jalebI khAne ke bAda cAya pIo to kyA hogA? praznakartA : cAya phIkI lgegii| dAdAzrI: hA~. usI taraha 'khada kA svarUpa prApta hone ke bAda yaha saMsAra phIkA lagatA hai, Asakti ur3a jAtI hai| khada kA svarUpa prApta ho jAne ke bAda jo use sa~bhAlakara rakheM, hama kaheM usa anusAra AjJApUrvaka rahe to use yaha saMsAra phIkA lgegaa| Asakti nikAlane se jAtI nhiiN| kyoMki isa lohacuMbaka aura Alapina donoM ko Asakti jo hai, vaha jAtI nhiiN| usI prakAra ye manuSyoM kI Asakti jAtI nhiiN| kama hotI hai, parimANa kama hotA hai para jAtA nhiiN| Asakti jAe kaba? 'khuda' anAsakta ho tb| 'khuda' Asakta hI huA hai| nAmadhArI matalaba Asakta! nAma para Asakti, sabhI para Asakti !
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________________ prema pati huA matalaba Asakta, bApa huA matalaba Asakta !! praznakartA: to saMyogoM kA asara na ho vaha saccI anAsakti hai ? dAdAzrI nA, ahaMkAra khatama hone ke bAda anAsakta hotA hai matalaba ahaMkAra aura mamatA donoM jAe~, taba anAsakti! vo aisA koI hotA nahIM / 41 praznakartA : yAnI yaha saba kareM, para usameM Asakti nahIM honI cAhie, karma lepAyamAna nahIM hone cAhie... dAdAzrI : para Asakti logoM ko rahatI hI hai, svAbhAvika rUpa se / kyoMki usakI khuda kI mUla bhUla nahIM gii| rUTakaoNz2a jAnA cAhie / rUTakaoNz2a kyA hai? to yaha use 'maiM caMdUbhAI hU~' aisI bilIfa baiTha gaI hai| isalie caMdUbhAI ke lie koI kahe ki 'caMdUbhAI ko aisA kiyA jA rahA hai, aisA nukasAna kiyA hai' aisA-vaisA caMdUbhAI para Aropa lagAyA jAe to 've' gusse ho jAte haiM, 'usako' khuda kI vIkanesa khar3I ho jAtI hai| to yaha rUkaoNz2a hai, bhUla bar3I yaha hai| dUsarI sabhI bhUla haiM hI nahIM / bhUla mUla meM yahI hai ki 'Apa' jo ho vaha jAnate nahIM aura nahIM vaisA Aropa karate ho| logoM ne nAma diyA, vaha to pahacAnane kA sAdhana hai ki, 'bhAI, ye caMdUbhAI aura inkamaTaiksa oNphisr|' vaha saba pahacAnane kA sAdhana hai| ye isa strI ke pati vaha bhI pahacAnane kA sAdhana hai| para 'khuda asala meM kauna hai?' vaha jAnate nahIM, usakI hI yaha saba muzkila hai na? praznakartA: aMtima muzkila to vahIM para hai na? dAdAzrI : yAnI yaha rUTakaoNz2a hai| usa rUTakaoNz2a ko tor3A jAe to kAma ho jaae| yaha acchA-burA vaha buddhi ke adhIna hai| aba buddhi kA dhaMdhA kyA hai ? jahA~ jAe vahA~ prophiTa aura losa dekhatI hai| buddhi jyAdA kAma nahIM kara sakatI, prophiTa aura losa ke alAvA / aba usase dUra ho jAo / anAsakta yoga rkho| AtmA kA svabhAva kaisA hai? anAsakta svarUpa hai| 42 prema khuda kA svabhAva aisA hai tU bhI svabhAva se anAsakta ho jaa| aba jaisA svabhAva AtmA kA hai, vaisA svabhAva hama kareM, taba ekAkAra ho jAe~, phira vaha kucha alaga hai hI nhiiN| svabhAva hI badalanA hai| aba hama Asakti rakheM aura bhagavAna jaise ho jAe~, vaha kisa taraha hogA? vaha anAsakta aura Asakti ke bIca mela kisa taraha ho? apane meM krodha ho aura phira bhagavAna se milApa kisa taraha ho? bhagavAna meM jo dhAtu hai, vaha dhAturUpa tU ho jaa| jo sanAtana hai, vahI mokSa hai| sanAtana matalaba niraMtara niraMtara rahatA hai, vahI mokSa hai| karane gayA kyA aura ho gayA kyA ? !! praznakartA: dAdA, Apa kisa taraha anAsakta hue? dAdAzrI : saba apane Apa baTa naicarala prakaTa ho gayA / yaha mujhe kucha patA nahIM par3atA ki kisa taraha huA yaha ! praznakartA: para aba to Apako patA calatA hai na? ve sopAna hameM kahie na / dAdAzrI : maiM kucha karane gayA nahIM thA, kucha huA nhiiN| maiM karane gayA kyA aura ho gayA kyA?! maiM to itanI sI khIra banAne gayA thA, dUdha meM cAvala DAlakara para yaha to amRta bana gayA !! vaha pUrva kA sAmAna sArA ikaTThA ho gayA thaa| mujhe aisA z2arUra thA ki aMdara apane pAsa kucha hai, itanA z2arUra mAlUma thaa| usakI jarA ghemarAjI (khuda ke sAmane dUsaroM ko tuccha samajhanA ) rahA karatI thii| praznakartA : yAnI anAsakta Apa jisa tarIke se hue to mujhe aisA huA ki usa tarIke kA varNana karoge, to usa tarIke kA mujhe samajha meM aaegaa| dAdAzrI : aisA hai, yaha 'jJAna' liyA aura hamArI AjJA meM rahe, ve anAsakta kahalAte haiN| phira bhale hI vaha khAtA-pItA ho yA kAlA koTa
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________________ pahanatA ho yA sapheda koTa-penTa pahanatA ho yA cAhe jo pahanatA ho| para vaha hamArI AjJA meM rahA to vaha anAsakta khlaaegaa| yaha AjJA anAsakta kA hI proTekzana hai| Asakti, paramANuoM kA sAinsa yaha kisake jaisA hai? yaha lohacuMbaka hotA hai aura yaha Alapina yahA~ par3I ho aura lohacuMbaka aise-aise kareM to Alapina U~cInIcI hotI hai yA nahIM hotI? hotI hai| lohacuMbaka pAsa meM rakheM to Alapina use cipaka jAtI hai| usa Alapina meM Asakti kahA~ se AI? usI prakAra isa zarIra meM lohacuMbaka nAma kA guNa hai| kyoMki aMdara ilekTrikala baoNDI hai, isalie usa baoNDI ke AdhAra para sArI ilekTrisiTI huI hai| usase zarIra meM lohacuMbaka nAma kA guNa utpanna hotA hai, taba jahA~ khuda ke paramANu milate Ae~, vahA~ AkarSaNa khar3A hotA hai aura dUsaroM ke sAtha kucha bhI nhiiN| usa AkarSaNa ko apane loga rAga-dveSa kahate haiN| kaheMge, 'merI deha khiMcatI hai|' are, terI icchA nahIM to deha kyoM khiMcatI hai? isalie tU kauna hai vahA~ para?! hama deha se kaheM, 'tU jAnA mata', taba bhI uThakara calane lagatA hai| kyoMki paramANu kA banA huA hai na, paramANu kA khiMcAva hai yh| mela khAte paramANu Ae~ vahA~ yaha deha khiMca jAtI hai| nahIM to apanI icchA na ho taba bhI yaha deha kaise khiMca jaae| yaha deha khiMca jAtI hai, use isa jagat ke loga kahate haiM, 'mujhe isa para bahuta rAga hai|' hama pUche, 'are, terI icchA khiMcane kI hai?' to ve kaheMge, 'nA, merI icchA nahIM hai. taba bhI khiMca jAtA hai|' to phira yaha rAga nahIM hai| yaha to AkarSaNa kA guNa hai| para jJAna na ho taba taka AkarSaNa kahalAtA nahIM hai, kyoMki usake mana meM to aisA hI mAnatA hai ki 'maiMne hI yaha kiyaa|' aura yaha 'jJAna' ho to khuda sirpha jAnatA hai ki deha AkarSaNa se khiMcI aura maiMne kucha kiyA nhiiN| isalie yaha deha khiMcatI hai na, vaha deha kriyAzIla banatI hai| yaha saba paramANu kA hI AkarSaNa hai| 44 kA nahIM hai| aura yaha deha Asakta hotA hai, vaha lohacuMbaka aura AlapIna jaisA hai| kyoMki vaha cAhe jaisA lohacaMbaka ho taba bhI vaha tAMbe ko nahIM khiiNcegaa| kise khIMcegA vaha? hA~, sirpha lohe ko hI khiiNcegaa| pItala ho to nahIM khiiNcegaa| yAnI svajAtIya ko hI khiiNcegaa| vaise hI isameM jo paramANu hai na apanI boDI meM, ve lohacuMbakavAle haiN| ve svajAtIya ko hI khIMcate haiN| samAna svabhAvavAle paramANu khiMcate haiN| pAgala patnI ke sAtha banatI hai aura samajhadAra bahana use bulAtI ho taba bhI usake sAtha nahIM bntii| kyoMki paramANu nahIM milate haiN| isIlie isa beTe para Asakti hI hai khaalii| paramANu-paramANu mela khAte haiN| tIna paramANu apane aura tIna paramANu usake, aise paramANu mela khAe~ taba Asakti hotI hai| mere tIna aura Apake cAra ho to kucha bhI lenA denA nhiiN| yAnI vijJAna hai yaha saba to| yaha Asakti, vaha deha kA guNa hai, paramANuoM kA guNa hai| vaha kaisA hai? lohacuMbaka aura Alapina meM jaisA saMbaMdha hai vaisA, deha se mela khAe~ hoM, vaise paramANuoM meM hI deha khiMcatA hai, vaha Asakti hai| Asakti to abaoNva naoNrmala aura bilo naoNrmala bhI ho sakatI hai| prema naoNrmeliTI meM hotA hai, eka sarIkhA hI hotA hai, usameM kisI bhI prakAra kA badalAva hotA hI nhiiN| Asakti to jaDa kI Asakti hai, cetana kI to nAma mAtra kI bhI nahIM hai| vyavahAra meM abhedatA rahe, usakA bhI kAraNa hotA hai| vaha to paramANu aura Asakti ke guNa haiM, para usameM kauna se kSaNa kyA hogA vaha kahA nahIM jA sktaa| jaba taka paramANu mela khAte hoM taba taka AkarSaNa rahatA hai, usake kAraNa abhedatA rahatI hai| aura paramANu mela na khAe~ to vikarSaNa hotA hai aura baira hotA hai| isalie Asakti ho, vahA~ baira hotA hI haiN| Asakti meM hitAhita kA bhAna nahIM hotaa| prema meM saMpUrNa hitAhita kA bhAna hotA hai| yaha to paramANuoM kA sAinsa hai| usameM AtmA ko kucha bhI lenA ye mana-vacana-kAyA Asakta svabhAva ke haiN| AtmA Asakta svabhAva
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________________ 45 46 denA nahIM hai| para loga to bhrAMti se paramANu ke khiMcAva ko mAnate haiM ki, 'maiM khiNcaa|' AtmA khiMcatA hI nhiiN| kahA~ bhrAMta mAnyatA! kahA~ vAstavikatA! yaha to sUI aura lohacuMbaka ke AkarSaNa ke kAraNa Apako aisA lagatA hai ki mujhe prema hai isIlie maiM khiMcatA huuN| para vaha prema jaisI vastu hI nahIM hai| rakhanA mata aura kisIke prema meM pha~sanA nhiiN| prema kA tiraskAra karake bhI mokSa meM nahIM jAyA jA sktaa| isalie sAvadhAna rhnaa| mokSa meM jAnA ho to virodhiyoM kA to upakAra maannaa| prema karate haiM ve hI baMdhana meM DAlate haiM, jaba ki virodhI upakArI-helpiMga ho jAte haiN| jisane apane Upara prema barasAyA hai, usakA tiraskAra na ho, vaisA karake chUTa jaanaa| kyoMki prema ke tiraskAra se saMsAra khar3A hai| 'khuda' anAsakta svabhAvI hI bAkI, 'Apa' anAsakta ho hii| anAsakti koI maiMne Apako dI nahIM hai| anAsakta 'ApakA' svabhAva hI hai aura Apa aisA mAnate ho, dAdA kA upakAra mAnate ho ki dAdA ne anAsakti dI hai| nA. nA. merA upakAra mAnane kI z2arUrata nahIM hai aura 'maiM upakAra karatA hU~' aisA mAnU~gA to merA prema khatama hotA jaaegaa| mujhase 'maiM upakAra karatA hU~' aisA mAnA nahIM jA sktaa| isalie khuda, khuda kI pUrI samajha meM rahanA par3atA hai, saMpUrNa jAgRti meM rahanA par3atA hai| praznakartA : to ina logoM ko aisA patA nahIM calatA ki apanA prema hai yA nahIM? dAdAzrI : prema to sabako patA calatA hai| DeDha varSa ke bAlaka ko bhI patA calatA hai, usakA nAma prema kahalAtA hai| yaha dUsarA saba to Asakti hai| cAhe jaise saMyogoM meM bhI prema bar3he nahIM aura ghaTe nahIM, usakA nAma prema kahalAtA hai| bAkI, ise prema kahA hI kaise jAe? yaha to bhrAMti kA hai| bhrAMtabhASA kA zabda hai| Asakti meM se udbhava hotA hai baira isalie jagat ne sabhI dekhA thA para prema dekhA nahIM thA aura jagata jise prema kahatA hai vaha to Asakti hai| Asakti meM se ye bakher3e khar3e hotI haiM saare| aura loga samajhate haiM ki prema se yaha jagat khar3A rahA hai| para prema se yaha jagat khar3A nahIM rahA hai, baira se khar3A rahA hai| prema kA phAunDezana hI nahIM hai| yaha baira ke phAunDezana para khar3A rahA hai, phAunDezana hI baira ke haiN| isalie baira chodd'o| isalie to hama baira kA nikAla karane kA kahate haiM na! samabhAve nikAla karane kA kAraNa hI yaha hai| yAnI anAsakta ApakA khuda kA svabhAva hai| Apako kaisA lagatA hai? maiMne diyA hai yA ApakA khuda kA svabhAva hI hai? praznakartA : khuda kA svabhAva hI hai na! dAdAzrI : hA~, aisA bolo na j'raa| yaha to sabhI 'dAdA ne diyA, dAdA ne diyA' kaho to kaba pAra AegA?! praznakartA : para usakA bhAna to Apane karavAyA na? dAdAzrI : hA~, para bhAna karavAyA, utanA hI! bAkI 'saba maiMne diyA hai' aisA kahate ho para vaha ApakA hai aura Apako diyA hai| praznakartA : hA~, hamArA hai vaha Apane diyA hai| para hamArA thA vaisA hama jAnate kahA~ the?! dAdAzrI : jAnate nahIM the para jAnA na Akhira to! jAnA usakA rauba bhagavAna kahate haiM ki, dveSa pariSaha upakArI hai| prema pariSaha kabhI bhI nahIM chuutttaa| sArA jagat prema pariSaha meM hI pha~sA huA hai| isalie hara eka ko dUra rahakara 'jayazrI kRSNa' karake chUTa jaanaa| kisIkI tarapha prema
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________________ prema 47 to alaga hI hai na! usakA rauba kaisA par3atA hai? nahIM?! koI gAliyA~ de to bhI usakA rauba nahIM jaae| hA~ rauba kaisA par3atA hai? ! aura usa raubavAle ko ? 'aise-aise' na kiyA ho na, to ThaMDA par3a jAtA hai! 'aise aise' karanA raha gayA to risepzana meM, to ThaMDA par3a jAtA hai! 'sabhI ko kiyA aura maiM raha gyaa| dekho yaha rauba aura usa rauba meM kitanA pharka ? ! praznakartA: isalie jisameM Asakta pahale hote haiM, vahA~ para hI phira anAsakta para aaegaa| dAdAzrI : hA~, vaha to rAstA hI hai na! vaha usake sTepiMga hI haiM saare| bAkI aMta meM anAsakta yoga meM AnA hai| abheda prema vahA~ buddhi kA aMta bhagavAna kaise haiM? anAsakta! kisI jagaha para Asakta nahIM / praznakartA aura jJAnI bhI anAsakta hI haiM na? dAdAzrI : haaN| isalie hI hamArA niraMtara prema hotA hai na vaha saba jagaha eka sA, samAna prema hotA hai| gAliyA~ deM usa para bhI samAna, phUla car3hAe~ usa para bhI samAna aura phUla na car3hAe~ usa para bhI samAna / hamAre prema meM bheda nahIM par3atA aura abheda prema hai vahA~ to buddhi calI jAtI hai phira / hamezA prema pahale, buddhi ko tor3a DAlatA hai yA phira buddhi prema ko Asakta banAtI hai| isalie buddhi ho vahA~ prema nahIM hotA aura prema ho vahA~ buddhi nahIM hotii| abheda prema utpanna ho ki buddhi khatma huI yAnI ahaMkAra khatma huaa| phira kucha rahA nahIM aura mamatA nahIM ho, taba hI premasvarUpa ho jaaegaa| hama to akhaMDa premavAle! hameM isa deha para mamatA nahIM hai| isa vANI para mamatA nahIM aura mana para bhI mamatA nahIM hai| vItarAgatA meM se prema kA udbhava isalie saccA prema kahA~ se lAe? vaha to ahaMkAra aura mamatA gae bAda meM hI prema hotA hai| ahaMkAra aura mamatA gae binA saccA prema hotA prema 48 hI nhiiN| saccA prema yAnI vItarAgatA meM se utpanna honevAlI vaha vastu hai / dvaMdvAtIta hone ke bAda vItarAga hotA hai| dvaita aura advaita to dvaMdva hai| advaitavAle ko dvaita ke vikalpa AyA karate haiN| 'vaha dvaita, vaha dvaita, vaha dvaita!' taba dvaita A par3atA hai ulTe / para vaha advaitapada acchA hai| para advaita se to eka lAkha mIla jAegA taba vItarAgatA kA pada AegA aura vItarAgatA kA pada Ane ke bAda aMdara prema utpanna hogA aura vaha prema utpanna hoe, vaha paramAtma prema hai| do dhaula mAro taba bhI vaha prema ghaTe nahIM aura ghaTe to hama samajhe ki yaha prema nahIM thA / sAmanevAle kA dhakkA hameM laga jAe usakA harja nahIM hai| para apanA dhakkA sAmanevAle ko nahIM lage vaha hameM dekhanA hai| to prema saMpAdana hotA hai| bAkI, prema saMpAdana karanA ho to vaise hI nahIM hotaa| dhIre-dhIre sabhI ke sAtha zuddha prema svarUpa honA hai| praznakartA : zuddha prema svarUpa yAnI kisa taraha rahanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : koI vyakti abhI gAliyA~ detA huA gayA aura phira Apake pAsa AyA taba bhI ApakA prema ghaTa nahIM jAtA, usakA nAma zuddha prem| aisA prema kA pATha sIkhanA hai, basa dUsarA kucha sIkhanA nahIM hai| maiM jo dikhAU~ vaisA prema honA caahie| yaha jindagI pUrI hone taka meM A jAegA na saba? vaha prema sIkho aba ! rIta, premasvarUpa hone kI asala meM jagat jaisA hai vaisA vaha jAne, phira anubhava kare to use premasvarUpa hI hogaa| jagat 'jaisA hai vaisA' kyA hai? ki koI jIva kiMcit mAtra doSI nahIM, nirdoSa hI hai jIva mAtra koI doSI dikhatA hai vaha bhrAMti se hI dikhatA hai| acche dikhate haiM, vaha bhI bhrAMti aura doSI dikhate haiM, vaha bhI bhrAMti / donoM aTecamenTa DiTecamenTa haiN| yAnI koI doSI asala meM hai hI nahIM aura doSI dikhatA hai isalie prema AtA hI nhiiN| isalie jagat ke sAtha jaba
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________________ 49 prema hogA, jaba nirdoSa dikhegA, taba prema utpanna hogaa| yaha merA-terA, vaha kaba taka lagatA hai? ki jaba taka dUsare ko alaga mAnate haiM taba tk| usake sAtha bheda hai taba taka, yaha merA lagatA hai usse| to isa aTecamenTavAle ko merA mAnate haiM aura DiTecamenTavAle ko parAyA mAnate haiM, vaha premasvarUpa kisI ke sAtha rahatA nhiiN| isalie yaha prema vaha paramAtmA guNa hai, isalie hameM vahA~ para khuda ko vahA~ sArA hI dukha bisara jAtA hai usa prema se| matalaba prema se baMdhA yAnI phira dUsarA kucha baMdhane ko rahA nhiiN| prema kaba utpanna hotA hai? jo abhI taka bhUleM huI hoM unakI mAfI mA~ga leM, taba prema utpanna hotA hai| unakA doSa eka bhI nahIM huA, para mujhe dikhA isalie merA doSa thaa| jisake sAtha premasvarUpa honA ho na, vahA~ isa taraha krnaa| taba Apako prema utpanna hogaa| karanA hai yA nahIM karanA prema? praznakartA : hA~ daadaa| dAdAzrI : hamArA yahI tarIkA hotA hai saaraa| hama jisa taraha tara gae haiM usI tarIke se tArate haiM sabhI ko| Apa prema utpanna karoge na?! premasvarUpa ho jAe~ taba sAmanevAle ko abhedatA rahatI hai| saba hamAre sAtha usa taraha se abheda ho gae haiN| yaha rIti khulI kara ddaalii| sarva meM maiM dekheM vaha premamUrti aba jitanA bheda jAe, utanA zuddha prema utpanna hotA hai| zuddha prema ko utpanna hone ke lie kyA jAnA cAhie apane meM se? koI vastu nikala jAe taba vaha vastu aaegii| yAnI ki yaha vekyuma raha nahIM sktaa| isalie isameM se bheda jAe, taba zuddha prema utpanna hotA hai| isalie jitanA bheda jAe utanA zuddha prema utpanna hotA hai| saMpUrNa bheda jAe taba saMpUrNa zuddha prema utpanna hotA hai| yahI rIti hai| Apako samajha meM AyA 'poinTa oNpha vyU'? yaha alaga taraha kA hai aura premamUrti bana jAnA hai| saba eka hI lage, judAI lage hI nhiiN| kaheMge, 'yaha hamArA aura yaha aapkaa|' para yahA~ se jAte samaya 'hamArA-ApakA' hotA hai?! isalie isa roga ke kAraNa judAI lagatI hai| yaha roga nikala gayA, to premamUrti ho jAtA hai| prema yAnI yaha sArA hI 'maiM' hI hU~, 'maiM' hI dikhatA huuN| nahIM to 'tU' kahanA pddegaa| 'maiM' nahIM dikhegA to 'ta' dikhegaa| donoM meM se eka to dikhegA hI na? vyavahAra meM bolanA aise ki 'maiM, tuu|' para dikhanA cAhie to 'maiM' hI na! vaha premasvarUpa yAnI kyA? ki sabhI ko abhedabhAva se dekhanA, abhedabhAva se vartana karanA, abhedabhAva se calanA, abhedabhAva hI maannaa| 'ye alaga haiM' aisI-vaisI mAnyatAe~ saba nikAla denii| usakA nAma hI premsvruup| eka hI parivAra ho aisA lge| jJAnI kA abheda prema judAI nahIM par3e, usakA nAma prem| bheda nahIM DAlanA, usakA nAma prem| abhedatA huI vahI prem| vaha prema normeliTI kahalAtI hai| bheda ho taba acchA kAma kara Ae na, to khuza ho jAtA hai| vApisa thor3I dera bAda ulTA kAma, cAya ke pyAle gira gae to cir3ha jAtA hai, yAnI abava naoNrmala. bilo naoNrmala huA karatA hai| prema, vaha kAma dekhatA nahIM hai| mUla svabhAva ke darzana karatA hai| kAma to, hameM normeliTI meM problama na hoM, vaise hI kAma hote haiN| praznakartA : hameM Apake prati jo bhAva jAgRta hotA hai vaha kyA hai? dAdAzrI : vaha to hamArA prema Apako pakar3atA hai| saccA prema saba jagaha sAre jagat ko pakar3a sakatA hai| prema kahA~ kahA~ hotA hai? prema vahA~ hotA hai ki jahA~ abhedatA hotI hai| yAnI jagat ke sAtha abhedatA kaba
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________________ 52 kahalAtI hai? ki premasvarUpa ho jAe to| sAre jagat ke sAtha abhedatA kahalAtI hai| taba vahA~ para dUsarA kucha dikhatA nahIM, prema ke alaavaa| Asakti kaba kahalAtI hai? ki jaba koI saMsArI cIz2a lenI ho tb| saMsArI cIz2a kA hetu hotA hai taba / yaha saccA sukha ke lie to phAyadA hogA, usakA harja nhiiN| hamAre Upara jo prema rahatA hai, usakA harja nhiiN| vaha Apako hailpa kregaa| dUsarI Ter3hI jagahoM para honevAlA prema uTha jaaegaa| praznakartA : yAnI hamameM jAgRta honevAlA bhAva, vaha Apake hRdaya ke hI prema kA pariNAma hai, vahI? dAdAzrI : hA~, prema kA hI pariNAma hai| yAnI prema ke hathiyAra se hI samajhadAra ho jAte haiN| mujhe DA~TanA nahIM pdd'taa| maiM, lar3anA kisIse nahIM cAhatA, mere pAsa to eka hI prema kA hathiyAra hai, 'maiM prema se jagat ko jItanA cAhatA huuN|' kyoMki hathiyAra maiMne nIce rakha die haiN| jagat hathiyAra ke kAraNa hI virodhI hote haiN| krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha ke ve hathiyAra maiMne nIce rakha die haiM isalie maiM ve kAma meM nahIM letaa| maiM prema se jagat ko jitanA cAhatA huuN| jagat jo samajhatA hai vaha to laukika prema hai| prema to usakA nAma ki Apa mujhe gAliyA~ do to maiM Dipresa na hoU~ aura hAra car3hAo to eliveTa na ho jAU~, usakA nAma prema kahalAtA hai| sacce prema meM to pharka hI nahIM pdd'taa| isa deha ke bhAva meM pharka paDe, para zaddha prema meM nhiiN|| manuSya to suMdara hoM taba bhI ahaMkAra se badasUrata dikhate haiN| suMdara kaba dikhate haiM? taba kaheM, premAtmA ho jAe tb| taba to badasUrata bhI suMdara dikhatA hai| zuddha prema prakaTa ho jAe tabhI suMdara dikhane lagatA hai| jagat ke logoM ko kyA cAhie? makta prem| jisameM svArtha kI gaMdha yA kisI prakAra kA matalaba nahIM hotaa| yaha to kudarata kA laoN hai| naicurala laoN! kyoMki prema vaha khuda paramAtmA prema vahIM mokSamArga arthAt jahA~ prema na dikhe, vahA~ mokSa kA mArga hI nhiiN| hameM nahIM Ae, bolanA bhI nahIM Ae, taba bhI vaha prema rakhe, taba hI sccaa| yAnI eka pramANikatA aura dUsarA prema ki jo prema kama-jyAdA nahIM hotaa| ina do jagaha para bhagavAna rahate haiN| kyoMki jahA~ prema hai, niSThA hai, pavitratA hai, vahA~ para hI bhagavAna hai| sArA rileTiva DipArTamenTa pAra kara jAe taba nirAlaMba hotA hai, taba prema utpanna hotA hai| 'jJAna' kahA~ saccA hotA hai? jahA~ prema se kAma liyA jAtA ho vahA~ aura prema ho vahA~ lena-dena nahIM hotaa| prema ho vahA~ ekatA hotI hai| jahA~ fIsa hotI hai, vahA~ prema nahIM hotaa| loga fIsa rakhate haiM na? pA~ca-dasa rupaye? ki 'AnA, Apako sunanA ho to, yahA~ nau rupaye fIsa hai' kheNge| yAnI dhaMdhA ho gayA! vahA~ prema nahIM hotaa| rupaye hoM vahA~ prema nahIM hotaa| dUsarA, jahA~ prema vahA~ Trika nahIM hotI aura jahA~ Trika hai vahA~ prema nahIM hotaa| jahA~ so gae, vahIM kA hI Agraha ho jAtA hai| caTAI meM sotA ho to usakA Agraha ho jAtA hai, aura Danalapa ke gadde meM sotA ho to usakA Agraha ho jAtA hai| caTAI para sone ke AgrahavAle ko gadde meM sulAe~ to use nIMda nahIM aatii| Agraha hI viSa hai aura nirAgrahatA hI amRta hai| nirAgrahIpana jaba taka utpanna nahIM hotA taba taka jagat kA prema saMpAdana nahIM hotaa| zuddha prema nirAgrahatA se utpanna hotA hai aura zuddha prema vahI paramezvara hai| isalie premasvarUpa kaba huA jAegA? niyama-viyama na DhUMDho, tb| yadi niyama DhUMDhoge to premasvarUpa nahIM huA jAegA! 'kyoM dera se Ae?' kaheM vaha premasvarUpa nahIM kahalAtA aura premasvarUpa ho jAoge taba loga ApakA suneNge| hA~, Apa AsaktivAle ho to ApakA kauna sune? Apako paise cAhie, Apako dUsarI striyA~ cAhie, vaha Asakti kahalAegI na?! ziSya ikaTThe karanA vaha bhI Asakti kahalAegI na?
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________________ prema dAdAzrI : kyA hotA hai vaha dekhanA hai| praznakartA : udAharaNa ke taura para beTA dUsare zahara meM par3hane gyaa| aura eyaraporTa para mA~ aura bApa donoM gae, aura mA~ kI A~kha meM se A~sU gire para bApa royA nhiiN| isalie tU kaThora patthara jaisA hai, kahate haiN| dAdAzrI : nA, nahIM hotI lAgaNI aisii| dUsare zahara jAtA ho to kyA? usakI A~kha meM se A~sU gireM to use DA~TanA cAhie ki isa taraha se DhIlI kaba taka rahegI mokSa meM jAnA hai to! praznakartA : nA, yAnI aisA ki yadi lAgaNI na ho to utanA vaha vyakti kaThora ho jAtA hai| vaisA lAgaNI binA kA manuSya bahuta kaThora hotA prema meM imozanalapana nahIM praznakartA : yaha premasvarUpa jo hai, vaha bhI kahalAtA hai ki hRdaya meM se AtA hai aura imozanalapana bhI hRdaya meM se hI AtA hai na? dAdAzrI : nA, vaha prema nahIM hai| prema to zuddha prema honA caahie| ye Trena meM saba loga baiThe haiM aura Trena imozanala ho jAe to kyA ho? praznakartA : gar3abar3a ho jaae| eksiDenTa ho jaae| dAdAzrI : loga mara jaaeN| isI taraha ye manuSya imozanala hote haiM taba aMdara itane sAre jIva mara jAte haiM aura usakI jimmedArI khuda ke sira para AtI hai| aneka prakAra kI aisI jimmedAriyA~ AtI haiM, imozanala ho jAne se| praznakartA : bagaira imozana kA manuSya patthara jaisA nahIM ho jAegA? dAdAzrI : maiM imozana binA kA hU~, to patthara jaisA lagatA hU~? bilakula imozana nahIM hai mujhameM / imozanavAlA mikenikala ho jAtA hai| para mozanavAlA to mikenikala hotA nahIM na! praznakartA : para yadi khada kA selpha riyalAija nahIM haA ho to phira ye imozana bagaira kA manuSya patthara jaisA hI lagegA na? dAdAzrI : vaha hotA hI nahIM hai| aisA hotA hI nahIM na! aisA kabhI hotA hI nhiiN| nahIM to phira use menTala meM le jAte haiN| para ve menTala bhI saba imozanala hI hote haiN| pUrA jagat hI imozanala hai| azru se vyakta, vaha nahIM saccI lAgaNI praznakartA : saMsAra meM rahane ke lie lAgaNI (bhAvukatAvAlA prema, lagAva) kI z2arUrata hai| lAgaNI pradarzita karanI hI par3atI hai| lAgaNI pradarzita na karo to mUDha kahate haiN| aba jJAna milatA hai, jJAna kI samajha utaratI hai, phira lAgaNI utanI pradarzita nahIM hotii| aba karanI cAhie vyavahAra meM? dAdAzrI : lAgaNI to jise A~kha meM A~sU nahIM Ate usakI saccI hai, aura ApakI jhUThI lAgaNI hai| ApakI dikhAve kI lAgaNI hai aura unakI saccI lAgaNI hai| saccI lAgaNI hArTilI hotI hai| vaha saba galata aura ulTA mAna baiThe haiN| lAgaNI koI jabaradastI hotI nahIM hai| vaha to naicurala giphTa hai| aise kahate haiM ki kaThora patthara jaisA hai to lAgaNI utpanna hotI ho to bhI baMda ho jaae| vaha koI ronA aura phira turanta bhUla jAnA, vaha lAgaNI kahalAtI nahIM hai| lAgaNI to ronA bhI nahIM aura yAda rahanA, usakA nAma lAgaNI kahalAtA hai| lAgaNIvAle to hama bhI haiM, kabhI bhI rote nahIM, para phira bhI sabake lie lAgaNI kAyama kI hai| kyoMki jitane adhika mileM, utane to roz2a hamAre jJAna meM Ate hI haiM sbhii| praznakartA : mA~-bApa khuda ke bAlakoM ke lie jisa prakAra lAgaNI vyakta karate haiM, to bahuta bAra lagatA hai ki khUba pradarzita karate haiN| dAdAzrI : vaha imozanala hI hai saaraa| kama batAnevAlA bhI imozanala kahalAtA hai| naoNrmala honA caahie| naoNrmala yAnI khAlI ddraamettik| DrAme kI strI ke sAtha DrAmA karanA, vaha asala, ekjektt| loga aisA samajhate haiM ki
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________________ thor3I bhI bhUla nahIM kii| para bAhara nikalate samaya use kaheM, cala mere sAtha, to nahIM AtI vaha? vaha to DrAmA taka hI thA, kahatI hai| vaha samajha meM AyA na? praznakartA : hA~, samajha meM AtA hai| dAdAzrI : isalie baccoM se kaheM, 'A bhAI, baiTha jaa| tere alAvA merA dUsarA kauna hai?' hama to hIrAbA se kahate the ki mujhe Apake binA acchA nahIM lgtaa| yaha paradeza jAtA hU~ para Apake binA mujhe acchA nahIM lgtaa| praznakartA : bA ko saca bhI lagatA thA! dAdAzrI : hA~, saccA hI hotaa| aMdara chUne nahIM dete the| praznakartA : pahale ke jamAne meM mA~-bApa ko baccoM ke lie prema yA unakI saMbhAla, vaha saba karane kA TAima hI nahIM hotA thA aura koI prema detA bhI nahIM thaa| bahata dhyAna nahIM dete the| abhI mA~-bApa baccoM ko bahuta prema dete haiM, bahuta dhyAna rakhate haiM, saba karate haiM, phira bhI baccoM ko mA~-bApa ke lie bahuta prema kyoM nahIM hotA? dAdAzrI : yaha prema to, jo bAhara kA moha aisA jAgRta ho gayA hai ki usameM hI citta jAtA hai| pahale moha bahuta kama thA aura abhI to moha ke sthAna itane adhika ho gae haiN| praznakartA : haaN| aura mA~-bApa bhI prema ke bhUkhe hote haiM ki hamAre bacce haiM, vinaya vagairaha rkheN| dAdAzrI : prema hI, jagat premAdhIna hai| jitanA manuSyoM ko bhautika sukha kI nahIM par3I, utanI prema kI par3I huI hai| parantu prema TakarAyA karatA hai| kyA kareM? prema TakarAnA nahIM caahie| praznakartA : baccoM meM mA~-bApa ke prati prema bahuta hai| dAdAzrI : baccoM ko bhI bahuta hai! para phira bhI TakarAyA karate haiN| Asakti, taba taka Tenzana praznakartA : jitanI, lAgaNI adhika, utanA usameM prema adhika hai aisI mAnyatA hai| dAdAzrI : prema hI nahIM hotA na! Asakti hai saarii| isa jagat meM prema zabda hotA nahIM hai| prema bolanA vaha galata bAta hai| vaha aMdara Asakti hotI hai| praznakartA : to yaha lAgaNI aura lAgaNI kA atireka vaha samajhAne kI kRpA kiijie| dAdAzrI : lAgaNI aura lAgaNI kA atireka vaha imozanala meM jAtA hai| vyakti mozana meM nahIM raha sakatA, isalie imozanala ho jAtA hai| praznakartA : aMgrez2I meM phIliMgsa aura imozana do zabda hai| dAdAzrI : parantu phIliMga vaha alaga hI vastu hai aura imozanala vastu alaga hai| lAgaNI aura lAgaNI kA atireka imozanala meM jAtA hai| koI bhI lAgaNI hai, Asakti hai, taba taka vyakti ko Tenzana khar3A hotA hai aura Tenzana se phira ceharA bigar3A rahatA hai| hamameM prema hai isalie Tenzana binA raha sakate haiN| nahIM to dUsarA vyakti Tenzana binA raha sakatA nahIM na! Tenzana hotA hI hai sabhI ko, jagat pUrA TenzanavAlA hai ! lAgaNiyoM kA pravAha, jJAnI ko hameM 'jJAnI puruSa' ko lAgaNiyA~ hotI hai| hA~, jaisI honI cAhie usa taraha kI hotI hai| hama use 'homa' ko chUne nahIM dete| aisA niyama nahIM ki aMdara 'homa' meM sparza hone denaa| lAgaNI nahIM ho to manuSya hI kaise kahalAe? praznakartA : Apane kahA ki lAgaNI to hameM bhI hotI hai| Apako jaisI hotI hai, usase hameM kucha U~cI lAgaNI hotI hai, sabake lie hotI hai|
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________________ 58 dAdAzrI : lAgaNI hotI hai| hama lAgaNI binA ke nahIM hote haiN| praznakartA : para phira bhI Apako vaha lAgaNI Taca nahIM hotii| dAdAzrI : jahA~ kudaratI prakAra se rakhanI cAhie, vahA~ para hI hama rakhate haiM aura Apa akudaratI jagaha para rakhate ho| praznakartA : usa DimArkezana ko z2arA spaSTa kIjie na! dAdAzrI : 'faoNrena' kI bAta faoNrena meM hI rakhanI hai aura 'homa' meM nahIM le jaanii| loga 'homa' meM le jAte haiN| faoNrena meM rakhakara aura hameM 'homa' meM rahanA hai| praznakartA : para una lAgaNiyoM kA pravAha ho, taba 'use' 'faoNrena' kA aura 'homa' kA DimArkezana nahIM hone detA hai na? do bhAga alaga par3ate nahIM hai na usa samaya? dAdAzrI : 'jJAna' liyA ho, use kyoM na par3e? praznakartA : yaha samajhanA hai ki Apa kisa taraha aplAya karate haiM! dAdAzrI : hama lAgaNI ko 'faoNrena' meM rakhakara 'homa' meM baiTha jAte haiN| aura lAgaNI aMdara ghusatI ho to kahate haiM, 'bAhara baitth|' aura Apa to kahoge, 'A bhAI, A, A, aMdara aa|' 'aMdara chUne na de', usake pariNAma.... hameM ye sabhI kahate haiM ki, 'dAdA, Apa hamAre lie bahuta ciMtA rakhate ho, nahIM!' vaha ThIka hai| para unheM patA nahIM ki dAdA ciMtA ko chUne bhI nahIM dete| kyoMki ciMtA rakhanevAlA manuSya kucha bhI kara nahIM sakatA, nirvIrya ho jAtA hai| ciMtA nahIM rakhate, to saba kara sakate haiN| ciMtA rakhanevAlA manuSya to khatama ho jAtA hai| isalie ye saba kahate haiM, vaha bAta sahI hai| hama suparaphluasa sabakucha karate haiM, para hama chUne nahIM dete| praznakartA : to aise asala meM kucha bhI nahIM karate? koI mahAtmA dukha meM A gayA to kucha karate nahIM haiM? ___ prema dAdAzrI : karate haiM na! para vaha suparaphluasa, aMdara chUne nahIM dete| bAhara ke bhAga kA pUrA hI kara lete haiN| bAhara ke bhAga meM sAre hI prayoga pUre hone dene haiM, para sirpha ciMtA hI nahIM karanI hai| ciMtA se to saba bigar3atA hai ulttaa| Apa kyA kahate ho? ciMtA karane ko kahate ho mujhe? chUne deM to vaha kAma hI nahIM ho| pUre jagat ko hI chUtA hai na! aMdara chUtA hai isalie to jagat kA kAma hotA nhiiN| hama chane nahIM dete isalie to kAma hotA hai| chUne nahIM dete isalie hamArI sephasAiDa aura usakI bhI sephsaaidd| Apako pasaMda AyA, vaisA chUne na de vaha? Apane to chUne diyA hai na, nahIM? hamane to hisAba dekha liyA ki hama chUne deM to yahA~ nirvIrya hotA hai aura usakA kAma nahIM hotA, aura na chUne deM, to AtmavIrya prakaTa hotA hai aura usakA kAma ho jAtA hai| yaha vijJAna premasvarUpa hai| prema meM krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha kucha bhI hotA nahIM hai| vaha ho, taba taka prema hotA nahIM hai| sAtvika nahIM, zuddha prema 'yaha' praznakartA : abhI duniyA meM saba loga zuddha prema ke lie vyartha prayatna kara rahe haiN| dAdAzrI : zuddha prema kA hI yaha rAstA hai| apanA yaha jo vijJAna hai na, kisI bhI taraha kI, kisI bhI prakAra kI icchA binA kA hai. isalie zuddha prema kA rAstA yaha udbhava huA hai| nahIM to hotA nahIM isa kAla meN| para isa kAla meM utpanna huA, vaha gajaba huA hai| praznakartA : zuddha prema aura sAtvika prema kA jarA bheda smjhaaie| dAdAzrI : sAtvika prema ahaMkAra sahita hotA hai| aura zuddha prema meM ahaMkAra bhI nahIM hotaa| sAtvika prema meM sirpha ahaMkAra hI hotA hai| usameM lobha nahIM hotA, kapaTa nahIM hotA, usameM sirpha mAna hI hotA hai| aham - maiM hU~, itanA hI! astitva kA bhAna hotA hai khuda ko aura zuddha usameM lobha nahIM hotA, kapaDAmA
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________________ prema 60 praznakartA : mujhe z2arA prema aura karuNA kA kyA saMbaMdha hai, vaha samajhanA hai| dAdAzrI : karuNA, kisI khAsa dRSTi se ho, taba karuNA kahalAtI hai| aura kisI aura dRSTi ho taba prema kahalAtA hai| karuNA kaba upayoga karate haiM? sAmAnya bhAva se sabhI ke dukha khuda dekha sakate haiN| vahA~ karuNA rakhate haiN| isalie karuNA yAnI kyA? eka prakAra kI kRpA hai| aura prema, vaha alaga vastu hai| prema ko to viTAmina kahA jAtA hai| prema to viTAmina kahalAtA hai| aisA prema dekhe na taba usameM viTAmina utpanna ho jAtA hai, aatmvittaamin| deha ke viTAmina to bahuta dina khAe haiM, para AtmA kA viTAmina cakhA nahIM na?! usameM AtmavIrya prakaTa hotA hai| aizvaryapana prakaTa hotA hai| prema meM to khuda abheda svarUpa ho gayA hotA hai| praznakartA : para aisA hai kyA ki kisI bhI kriyA ke aMdara phira vaha sAtvika kriyA ho, rajoguNI kriyA ho yA kisI bhI prakAra kI kriyA ho to usa kriyA meM ahaMkAra kA tattva nahIM hotaa| vaha tArkika prakAra se saca hai? dAdAzrI : nahIM ho sktaa| are, aisA karane jAe to bhUla hai| kyoMki ahaMkAra ke binA kriyA hI nahIM hotii| sAtvika kriyA bhI nahIM hotii| praznakartA : zuddha prema rakhanA to cAhie na? to vaha ahaMkAra ke binA dhAraNa kisa prakAra se hogA? ahaMkAra aura zuddha prema do sAtha meM raha nahIM sakate? dAdAzrI : ahaMkAra hai, taba taka zuddha prema AtA hI nahIM na ! ahaMkAra aura zuddha prema do sAtha meM nahIM raha skte| zuddha prema kaba AtA hai? ahaMkAra vilaya hone lage taba se zuddha prema Ane lagatA hai aura ahaMkAra saMpUrNa vilaya ho jAe taba zuddha prema kI mUrti bana jAtA hai| zuddha prema kI mUrti hI paramAtmA hai| vahA~ para ApakA sabhI prakAra kA kalyANa ho jAtA hai| vaha niSpakSapAtI hotA hai, koI pakSapAta nahIM hotaa| zAstroM se para hotA hai| cAra veda par3ha lie taba veda iTaselpha bolate haiM, 'disa iz2a noTa deTa, disa iz2a noTa dett|' to jJAnI puruSa kahate haiM, disa ija deTa, basa! 'jJAnI puruSa' to zuddha premavAle, isalie turanta hI AtmA de dete haiM! mAtra do guNa haiM unmeN| vaha zuddha prema hai aura zuddha nyAya hai| do haiM unake paas| zuddha nyAya jaba isa jagat meM ho, taba samajhanA ki yaha bhagavAna kI kRpA utrii| zuddha nyAya! nahIM to ye dUsare nyAya to sApekSa nyAya haiM! praznakartA : vaha sahaja hI hotA hai na dAdA? dAdAzrI : shj| praznakartA : isalie use usameM kisI prakAra kA kucha karanA rahatA nahIM hai| dAdAzrI : kucha nhiiN| yaha saba mArga hI sahaja kA hai| gAliyA~ denevAle para bhI prema praznakartA : isa jJAna ke bAda hameM jo anubhava hotA hai, usameM kucha prema, prema, prema chalakatA hai, vaha kyA hai? dAdAzrI : vaha prazasta rAga hai| jisa rAga se saMsAra ke rAga sAre chUTa jAte haiN| aisA rAga utpanna ho taba saMsAra meM jo bhI dUsare rAga sabhI jagaha lage hue hoM, ve saba vApisa A jAte haiN| ise prazasta rAga kahA hai bhagavAna ne| prazasta rAga, vaha pratyakSa mokSa kA kAraNa hai| vaha rAga bAMdhatA nahIM hai| kyoMki usa rAga meM saMsArI het nahIM hai| upakArI ke prati rAga utpanna hotA hai, vaha prazasta raag| vaha sabhI rAgoM ko chur3avAtA hai| prema prakaTAe Atma aizvarya karuNA vaha sAmAnya bhAva hai aura vaha saba ora baratatA rahatA hai ki sAMsArika dukhoM se yaha jagat pha~sA hai ve dukha kisa taraha jAe~?
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________________ ina 'dAdA' kA nididhyAsana kareM na to unameM jo guNa haiM na, ve utpanna hote haiM apane meN| dUsarA yaha ki jagat kI kisI bhI vastu kI spRhA nahIM krnii| bhautika cIz2a kI spRhA nahIM karanI hai| Atmasukha kI hI vAMchanA, dUsarI kisI cIz2a kI vAMchanA hI nahIM aura koI hameM gAliyA~ de gayA ho, usake sAtha bhI prema! itanA ho ki kAma ho gayA phira / 'jJAnI', bejor3a premAvatAra praznakartA : kaIbAra aisA hotA hai ki soe hue hoM aura phira ardhajAgRta avasthA hotI hai aura 'dAdA' aMdara birAja jAte haiM, 'dAdA' kA zurU ho jAtA hai, vaha kyA hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, zurU ho jAtA hai| aisA hai na, 'dAdA' sUkSma bhAva se pUre varlDa meM ghUmate rahate haiN| maiM sthUla bhAva se yahA~ hU~ aura dAdA sUkSmabhAva se pUre varlDa meM ghUmate rahate haiN| saba jagaha dhyAna rakhate haiM aura aisA nahIM ki dUsaroM ke sAtha koI bhAMjagar3a hai| isalie bahuta logoM ko khvAba meM AyA hI karate haiM apane Apa hI, aura kucha to dina meM bhI 'dAdA' ke sAtha bAtacIta karate haiN| ve mujhe kahate bhI haiM ki, 'mere sAtha dAdA, Apa isa taraha bAtacIta karake gae!' dina meM khulI A~khoM se use dAdA kaheM aura vaha sunatA hai aura vaha likha letA hai vApisa / ATha baje likha letA hai ki itanA bole haiN| vaha mujhe par3hA bhI jAte haiM vaapis| isalie yaha saba huA hI karatA hai| phira bhI isameM camatkAra jaisI vastu nahIM hai| yaha svabhAvika hai| koI bhI manuSya kI AvaraNa rahita sthiti hotI hai aura thor3A kucha kevalajJAna ko aMtarAya kare hai utanA AvaraNa rahA ho aura jagat meM jisakI misAla na mile, vaisA prema utpanna huA ho, jisakI misAla na ho vaisA premAvatAra ho gayA ho, vahA~ sabakucha hI hotA ahaMkAra kA aMdara usakA ebaz2orba karatA hai yA nahIM karatA? karatA hai| isalie usameM saMpUrNa ni:spRha hote nahIM hai| ahaMkAra jAe usake bAda sArA saccA prema hotA hai| isalie ye premAvatAra hai| vaha jahA~ kisIko kucha bhI sahaja mana ulajha gayA ho, vahA~ khuda Akara hAz2ira! prema, sabhI para sarIkhA yaha prema to IzvarIya prema hai| aisA saba jagaha hotA nahIM na! yaha to kisI jagaha para aisA ho to ho jAtA hai, nahIM to hotA nahIM na! abhI zarIra se moTA dikhe usa para bhI prema, gorA dikhe usa para bhI prema, kAlA dikhe hai usa para bhI prema, lUlA-laMgar3A dikhe usa para bhI prema, acche aMgovAlA manuSya dikhe usa para bhI prem| saba jagaha sarIkhA prema dikhatA hai| kyoMki unake AtmA ko hI dekhate haiN| dUsarI vastu dekhate hI nhiiN| jaise isa saMsAra meM loga manuSya ke kapar3e nahIM dekhate, usake guNa kaise haiM vaha dekhate haiM, usI taraha 'jJAnI puruSa' isa pudgala ko nahIM dekhte| pudgala to kisIkA adhika hotA hai kisIkA kama hotA hai, koI ThikAnA hI nahIM na! aura aisA prema ho vahA~ bAlaka bhI baiThe rahate haiN| anapar3ha baiThe rahate haiM, par3he-likhe baiThe rahate haiM, buddhizAlI baiThe rahate haiM, sabhI loga samA jAte haiN| bAlaka to uThate nhiiN| kyoMki vAtAvaraNa itanA adhika suMdara hotA hai| aisA premasvarUpa 'jJAnI' kA yAnI prema to 'jJAnI puruSa' kA hI dekhane jaisA hai ! Aja pacAsa haz2Ara loga baiThe haiM, para koI bhI vyakti thor3A bhI prema rahita huA nahIM hog| usa prema se jI rahe haiM sbhii| praznakartA : vaha to bahuta muzkila hai| dAdAzrI : para hamameM vaisA prema prakaTa huA hai to kitane hI loga aba nispRha prema hotA hai, para vaha ahaMkArI puruSa ko hotA hai| yAnI
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________________ 64 hamAre prema se hI jIte haiN| niraMtara dAdA, dAdA, dAdA! khAne kA nahIM mile to koI harja nhiiN| yAnI prema aisI vastu hai yh| aba isa prema se hI saba pApa usake bhasmIbhUta ho jAte haiN| nahIM to kaliyuga ke pApa kyA dhonevAle the ve?! phira bhI rahA pharka caudasa-pUnama meM matalaba jagat meM kabhI bhI dekhA na ho, vaisA prema utpanna huA hai| kyoMki prema utpanna huA thA, para usa jagaha vItarAga ho gae the| jahA~ prema utpanna ho vaisI jagaha thI, ve saMpUrNa vItarAga the| isalie vahA~ prema dikhatA nahIM thaa| hama kacce raha gae, isalie prema rahA aura saMpUrNa vItarAgatA nahIM aaii| hI kahalAtA hai aura hamArA prema logoM ko dikhatA hai| para vaha saccA prema nahIM khlaataa| ekjekTalI jise prema kahA jAtA hai na, vaha nahIM khlaataa| ekjekTalI to saMpUrNa vItarAgatA ho taba saccA prema aura hamArA to caudasa kahalAtA hai, pUnama nahIM hai!! praznakartA : yAnI pUnamavAle ko isase bhI adhika prema hotA hai? dAdAzrI : usa pUnamavAle kA hI saccA prema! ina caudasavAle meM kisI jagaha para kamI hotI hai| isalie pUnamavAle kA hI saccA prem| praznakartA : saMpUrNa vItarAgatA ho aura prema bagaira kA ho, aisA to hotA hI nahIM na? dAdAzrI : prema bagaira to hotA hI nahIM hai na vaha ! praznakartA : yAnI dAdA, caudasa aura pUnama meM itanA pharka par3a jAtA hai, itanA adhika pharka aisA? dAdAzrI : bahuta pharka ! vaha to apane logoM ko pUnama jaisA lagatA hai para bahuta pharka hai! hamAre hAtha meM kucha hai bhI kyA to?! aura unake, tIrthakaroM ke hAtha meM to sabhI kucha hai| hamAre hAtha meM kyA hai? phira bhI hameM saMtoSa rahatA hai pUnama jitanA! hamArI zakti, khuda ke lie zakti itanI kAma kara rahI hotI hai ki pUnama hameM ho gayA ho aisA lagatA hai !! 'jJAnI', baMdhe 'prema se praznakartA : aba yaha jJAna lene ke bAda do-tIna bhava bAkI rahe to utane samaya to saMpUrNa karuNA-sahAyatA karane ke lie to Apa baMdhe hue praznakartA : Apane kahA hai ki hama premasvarUpa ho gae para taba saMpUrNa vItarAgatA utpanna nahIM huii| vaha z2arA samajhanA thaa| dAdAzrI: prema matalaba kyA? kiMcita mAtra kisIkI tarapha sahaja bhI bhAva bigar3e nahIM, usakA nAma prem| yAnI saMpUrNa vItarAgatA usakA nAma hI prema kahalAtA hai| praznakartA : to prema kA sthAna kahA~ AyA? yahA~ kauna-sI sthiti meM prema kahalAegA? dAdAzrI : prema to, jitanA vItarAga huA utanA prema utpanna huaa| saMparNa vItarAga aura saMpUrNa prema! isalie vItadveSa to Apa saba ho hI gae ho| aba vItarAga dhIre-dhIre hote jAo hara eka cIz2a meM, vaise prema utpanna hotA jaaegaa| praznakartA : taha yahA~ Apane kahA thA ki hamArA prema kahalAtA hai, vItarAgatA nahIM AI, vaha kyA hai? dAdAzrI : vItarAgatA matalaba yaha hamArA prema hai, to aise prema dikhatA hai aura ina vItarAgoM kA prema aise dikhatA nahIM hai| para saccA prema to unakA dAdAzrI : baMdhe hue haiM matalaba hI ki hama prema se baMdhe hue haiN| to Apa jaba taka prema rakhoge taba taka baMdhe hue haiN| ApakA prema chUTA ki hama chuutte| hama prema se baMdhe hue haiN| ApakA saMsAra ke prati prema jhuka gayA to alaga ho jAoge aura AtmA ke prati prema rahA to baMdhe hue haiN| kaisA lagatA
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________________ prema hai Apako? baMdhe hue to haiM hI na! prema se to baMdhe hue hI haiM na! zuddha premasvarUpa, ve hI paramAtmA ahaMkArI ko khuza karane meM kucha samaya lage aisA nahIM hai, mIThImIThI bAteM karo to hI khuza ho jAtA hai aura jJAnI to mIThI bAteM karo taba bhI khuza nahIM hote| koI bhI sAdhana, jagat meM aisI koI cIz2a nahIM ki jisase 'jJAnI' khuza hoN| mAtra apane prema se hI khuza hote haiN| kyoMki ve sirpha premavAle haiN| unake pAsa prema ke alAvA kucha hai hI nhiiN| pUre jagat ke sAtha unakA prema hai| 'jJAnI puruSa' kA zuddha prema jo dikhatA hai, aise ughAr3A dikhatA hai, vahI paramAtmA hai| paramAtmA, vaha dUsarI koI vastu hI nahIM hai| zuddha prema jo dikhatA hai, jo bar3hatA nahIM, ghaTatA nahIM, eka samAna hI rahA karatA hai, usakA nAma paramAtmA, ughAr3e-khulle paramAtmA! aura jJAna vaha sUkSma paramAtmA, vaha samajhane meM dera lgegii| isalie paramAtmA bAhara DhUMDhane jAnA nahIM hai| bAhara to Asakti hai saarii| jo prema bar3he nahIM, ghaTe nahIM, vaha prema hai, ve hI paramAtmA haiM!!! - jaya saccidAnaMda mUla gujarAtI zabdoM ke samAnArthI zabda UparI : baoNsa, variSTha mAlika kalpa : kAlacakra goThavaNI : seTiMga, prabaMdha, vyavasthA noMdha : atyaMta rAga athavA dveSa sahita lambe samaya taka yAda rakhanA, noTa karanA niyANAM : apanA sArA puNya lagAkara kisI eka vastu kI kAmanA karanA dhaula : hathelI se mAranA silaka : rAhakharca, pU~jI tAyafA : phajItA upalaka : satahI, Upara Upara se, suparaphluasa kar3hApA : kur3hana, kleza ajaMpA : becainI, azAMti, ghabarAhaTa rAjIpA gurajanoM kI kRpA aura prasannatA silaka : jamApUMjI potApaNuM : maiM hU~ aura merA hai, aisA AropaNa, merApana lAgaNI : bhAvukatAvAlA prema, lagAva
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________________ (dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezana ke dvArA prakAzita pustakeM hindI 1. jJAnI purUSa kI pahacAna 18. trimaMtra 2. sarva duHkhoM se mukti 19. bhAvanA se sudhare janmojanma 3. karma kA vijJAna 20. pati-patnI kA dIvya 4. Atmabodha vyavahAra 5. maiM kauna hU~? 21. mAtA-pitA aura baccoM kA 6. vartamAna tIrthakara zrI sImaMdhara vyavahAra svAmI 22. samajha se prApta brahmacarya 7. bhUgate usI kI bhUla 23. dAna 8. eDajasTa evarIvheyara 24. mAnava dharma 9. TakarAva TAlie 25. sevA-paropakAra 10. huA so nyAya 26. mRtyu samaye, pahelA aura 11. ciMtA pazcAta 12. krodha 27. nijadoSa darzana se... nirdoSa 13. pratikramaNa 28. prema 14. dAdA bhagavAna kauna? 29. kleSa rahita jIvana 15. paisoM kA vyavahAra 30. ahiMsA 16. aMta:karaNa kA svarUpa 31. AptavANI-1 17. jagata kartA kauna ? prAptisthAna dAdA bhagavAna parivAra aDAlaja : trimaMdira saMkula, sImaMdhara siTI, ahamadAbAda-kalola hAIve, posTa : aDAlaja, jilA : gAMdhInagara, gujarAta - 382421. phona : (079) 39830100, email : info@dadabhagwan.org ahamadAbAda : dAdA darzana, 5, mamatApArka sosAiTI, navagujarAta kaoNleja ke pIche, usmAnapurA, ahamadAbAda-380014. phona : (079)27540408, 27543979 rAjakoTa : trimaMdira, ahamadAbAda-rAjakoTa hAIve, taraghar3iyA cokar3I, posTa : mAliyAsaNa, jilA : rAjakoTa. phona : 9924343478 bhuja : trimaMdira, hila gArDana ke pIche, sahayoganagara ke pAsa, eyaraporTa roDa, bhuja (kaccha), gujarAta, saMparka : 02832 236666 muMbaI : 9323528901 puNe : 9822037740 vaDodarA : (0265)2414142 beMgalUra : 9341948509 kolakatA : 033-32933885 U.S.A. : Dada Bhagwan Vignan Institue : Dr. Bachu Amin, 100, SW Redbud Lane, Topeka, Kansas 66606. Tel : 785-271-0869, E-mail: bamin@cox.net Dr. Shirish Patel, 2659, Raven Circle, Corona,CA92882, Tel. : 951-734-4715, E-mail: shirishpatel@sbcglobal.net U.K. : Dada Centre, 236, Kingsbury Road, (Above Kingsbury Printers), Kingsbury, London, NW90BH, Tel. :07956476253, E-mail: dadabhagwan_uk@yahoo.com Canada : Dinesh Patel, 4, Halesia Drive, Etobicock, Toronto,M9W6B7. Tel.:4166753543 E-mail:ashadinsha@yahoo.ca Canada : +1416-675-3543 Australia : +61 421127947 Dubai : +971506754832 Singapore: +6581129229 Website : www.dadabhagwan.org, www.dadashri.org dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezana ke dvArA gujarAtI bhASA meM bhI 55 pustakeM prakAzita huI hai| vebasAiTa www.dadabhagwan.org para se bhI Apa ye sabhI pustakeM prApta kara sakate haiN| dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezana ke dvArA hara mahIne hindI, gujarAtI tathA aMgrejI bhASA meM "dAdAvANI" maigez2Ina prakAzita hotA hai|